The Great America Show - June 21, 2024


MARXISTS FIGHTING FOR CONTROL OF PUPPET BIDEN

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Joe Biden Jeff Clark Donald Trump Mike Johnson Steve Bannon Liz Cheney McAfee Thomas Massey Barack Obama Young Thug Bush Peter McCullough Adam Kinzinger Rudy Giuliani Sam Harris Peter Navarro Peter Swiser Frank Speech Drew Pinsky Matt Gaetz and 9 more
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Former Assistant Attorney General Jeff Clark joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to talk all things R.I.G.E. and lawfare in America. Biden enters debate camp at Camp David, the first presidential debate is still a week away, and the Democratic National Convention is less than a month away.

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00:00:33.620 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:36.760 Great to have you with us today.
00:00:38.940 Joe Biden has entered debate camp at Camp David.
00:00:43.720 The first presidential debate is still a week away, but Biden needs all the time he can get.
00:00:50.300 Whether he will retain what he prepares for, that's, well, that's yet to be seen, but it
00:00:57.220 seems, based on experience, to be highly unlikely.
00:01:01.260 The prep is being led by Biden campaign advisor Ron Klain, along with other senior campaign
00:01:08.800 advisors.
00:01:09.800 While Biden hunkers down at debate camp to try to learn a thing or two about what's happening
00:01:15.440 in the Oval Office, it's unlikely Biden will be faced with any top questions from the good
00:01:21.620 folks over at CNN, moderators.
00:01:24.820 They're more or less liberators, I believe.
00:01:27.460 Like, why have you directed your DOJ to persecute your political enemy?
00:01:33.840 Or what the hell have you done to this country in three and a half years?
00:01:38.840 Well, turning now to lawfare in America, our guest today is former Assistant Attorney General
00:01:44.660 Jeff Clark, who is in a legal battle against the corrupt judiciary and DOJ, for speaking
00:01:52.000 out about the RIG 2020 election.
00:01:56.260 And here now is Jeff Clark.
00:01:57.960 Jeff, great to see you, my friend, and thanks for joining us.
00:02:01.580 So let's begin.
00:02:03.140 Tell us where you are in your lawfare terror campaign, that is, the terror campaign that
00:02:11.780 the Marxist Dems are waging against you.
00:02:14.680 Sure.
00:02:14.840 Well, thanks, Lou.
00:02:16.020 So let me do Georgia first.
00:02:17.840 So in Georgia, the case about whether Fannie Willis should be disqualified or not from that 0.99
00:02:23.940 prosecution, the appeal about that was accepted by the Georgia Court of Appeals, and they have
00:02:30.300 granted a stay in that case.
00:02:32.000 So nothing as to the people who appealed, which are about six and include President Trump and
00:02:38.860 Rudy Giuliani, for instance, as other co-appellants with me, nothing can proceed against us in the
00:02:45.340 trial court.
00:02:45.960 So that's good news.
00:02:47.460 That kind of stentches the flow of legal payouts for that in terms of legal fees, which is good
00:02:55.380 news.
00:02:56.720 The other defendants, sadly, the ones who didn't take appeals, and I don't know why they
00:03:01.260 didn't take an appeal of, you know, Fannie Willis getting disqualified, the trial judge has ruled he's
00:03:06.100 going to keep going with their cases.
00:03:07.720 So I feel bad for them.
00:03:09.260 I hope they can actually get some relief themselves from the Court of Appeals to freeze things until
00:03:14.040 this appeal is done.
00:03:15.360 That appeal won't be heard until October.
00:03:18.280 So there's no way that the Fannie Willis case is going to pick up with any kind of trial or really a lot of
00:03:24.740 significant rulings before the election.
00:03:27.440 Will that still be in the hands of McAfee?
00:03:30.300 That's still in the hands of McAfee.
00:03:31.960 And he's the judge who, he's the one who denied to the non-appealing defendants the ability to just
00:03:39.020 put the case on hold.
00:03:41.120 McAfee is, I mean, he's outrageous.
00:03:44.040 First of all, he's a newbie.
00:03:46.560 And even if he weren't a newbie, he would still be behaving just as he is.
00:03:51.280 I don't see any depth to him.
00:03:53.720 I don't see any integrity to the man.
00:03:56.220 Your thoughts?
00:03:57.940 Well, he's just gotten reelected.
00:04:01.400 So he's going to be there for a while.
00:04:03.480 And I think that, let me contrast him with the judge, Glanville, who has the Young Thug case,
00:04:10.880 which is another one of Fannie Willis' Georgia-RICO cases.
00:04:13.800 She's really, you know, Georgia-RICO happy.
00:04:17.840 And she thinks that they've kind of put that statute together in ways that make it a lot more,
00:04:22.980 you know, prosecution-friendly than federal RICO.
00:04:27.500 She used that against, you know, teacher types and administrator types in Georgia saying they were 0.96
00:04:33.880 cooking up, you know, getting exam results in a vast conspiracy.
00:04:38.460 And ever since, she's been hooked on it kind of like a drug.
00:04:42.160 So she brought this big case against Young Thug on a theory who was kind of running like a,
00:04:47.140 you know, murder operation and, you know, a form of mafia.
00:04:51.060 That, you know, trial seems to be a total circus.
00:04:54.020 You know, you may have seen that the lawyer for Young Thug heard that the judge was having ex parte
00:05:01.360 contacts.
00:05:02.880 And, you know, you can't do that if you're a judge, right?
00:05:05.680 It's a violation of constitutional due process.
00:05:07.740 We have an adversary system.
00:05:09.780 You can't have a system where one side, especially prosecutors, are talking to the judge and the
00:05:14.300 other side is excluded from it.
00:05:15.760 And the judge turned the issue not into him having improper ex parte contacts and that being exposed,
00:05:23.200 but rather he just started grilling the lawyer for Young Thug saying,
00:05:26.920 how did you find out that I had that meeting?
00:05:28.700 So he functionally admitted that it happened.
00:05:30.600 And then when the lawyer wouldn't tell him how he learned that information, saying that essentially it was
00:05:37.400 privileged, he learned it as part of the attorney work product doctrine, he held him in contempt.
00:05:43.620 And again, the Georgia appellate courts had to step in.
00:05:46.940 This time, the Georgia Supreme Court, they stepped in and they put a supersedious, you know,
00:05:53.820 which is in this case, another name for a stay in place so that the lawyer didn't have to spend all
00:05:59.580 of his weekends that the judge was proposing that he would have to spend 10 consecutive weekends in
00:06:05.240 jail to to pay for his criminal contempt against the judge for just daring to raise the fact that
00:06:11.340 the judge was acting improperly.
00:06:13.040 I mean, it's really you got to, you know, scratch your head about what is going on down in Fulton County, Georgia.
00:06:19.080 I mean, it's it's a national, you know, butt of jokes.
00:06:24.340 Yeah, it is a joke.
00:06:26.620 It's a butt of a joke. 0.56
00:06:27.960 And it is outrageous. 0.65
00:06:29.960 I mean, the level of incompetence and ineptitude on the part of those attorneys and those judges down there.
00:06:38.520 I mean, I mean, this would make your head swim. 0.99
00:06:41.080 And I it's one thing to be corrupt, but I mean, to be this inept and this incompetent 0.99
00:06:48.820 is a whole nother dimension of frustrated justice. 0.98
00:06:53.880 Let's turn to let's go to the president right now.
00:06:59.100 And that is he is he's having a tough time getting those gag orders that one merchant put down on him,
00:07:08.560 getting them lifted.
00:07:09.620 And Judge Cannon surprised me and said, oh, yeah, leave it there.
00:07:14.320 It's fine.
00:07:15.400 I I don't get this.
00:07:17.920 Those those those gag orders should be to preserve the integrity of the trial.
00:07:24.260 The trial is over.
00:07:25.740 What is going on here with these gag orders and this sudden affection on the part of the bench,
00:07:31.660 the federal bench for them?
00:07:33.020 Well, look, you know, just today, the New York Court of Appeals rejected Trump's attempt to get rid of the gag order
00:07:42.820 coming out of the Manhattan trial, which is, you say, at this point.
00:07:46.240 Right. Like, what's the reason to gag President Trump except to interfere with the election and his speech and political speech?
00:07:53.900 Which is at the heart of the First Amendment and political elections are at the heart of the First Amendment.
00:07:58.480 And yet, you know, what the New York Court of Appeals said very surprisingly was there's no substantial question presented by President Trump.
00:08:06.580 I mean, I would submit that it's just definitional that if you're a presidential candidate in the heart of a presidential race,
00:08:15.160 you know, in the last few months before the people of America will vote, you know,
00:08:20.520 by definition, if there's a gag order placed on you, a substantial First Amendment question is presented.
00:08:25.860 So I don't get it.
00:08:27.200 You know, I did note that I'd kind of lost track of her.
00:08:30.840 One of my law school classmates who was on the left is on the New York Court of Appeals at this point.
00:08:36.660 And I don't think she took part in this decision.
00:08:39.580 Otherwise, you know, I might be tempted to to to to razz her about that.
00:08:45.840 But, you know, I just don't I don't know what's going on with it.
00:08:48.800 I think that, you know, you just you have too many Democrat governors who get elected.
00:08:54.520 You have too many, you know, political monopolies in these blue cities and they let that power go to their head.
00:09:00.820 And they just they can't see things objectively anymore, Lou.
00:09:04.200 Well, they they can't, but they don't want to either.
00:09:07.500 I mean, I don't I'm not going to give them a pass.
00:09:11.180 This is corruption through and through.
00:09:13.140 And it has real victims.
00:09:15.540 And I'm talking with one of those.
00:09:17.700 And that victim is Jeff Clark, a great American, a great attorney.
00:09:22.080 And we're going to continue this conversation right after these quick words.
00:09:26.860 Stay with us.
00:09:27.380 We'll be back in just a moment with Jeffrey Clark.
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00:11:08.380 We're talking with Jeffrey Clark, and he has been targeted by the left.
00:11:12.240 He's had to defend himself forever, it seems.
00:11:16.080 Jeff, give us a sense, if you will, and I don't want to pry, but what have you spent or would have spent on your legal fees just to defend yourself against these racketeers of the left?
00:11:35.040 Well, Lou, thanks for asking that.
00:11:37.360 I don't think people realize how expensive it is.
00:11:39.380 And the other thing is that, look, you know, my lawyers are committed to the cause, right, and they are giving me, you know, discounted rates because they believe in the cause and because, you know, they're friends with me personally.
00:11:55.600 If I were truly in a competitive legal market, these numbers would even be higher.
00:12:00.100 So my estimate at this point from the time they started coming after me in 2021 until now is that out of pocket it's been like a million to a million and a half.
00:12:14.100 And then I actually act as my own lawyer in many ways, like working with my team and writing briefs and editing them and discussing legal strategy, et cetera.
00:12:23.880 If I, you know, take a kind of modest rate for myself, right, not the kind of rate I was commanding when I was in private practice, but I just imagine, you know, even conservatively what I might bill myself out if I had a solo practice or something.
00:12:40.040 And I use that as an imputed rate.
00:12:42.400 You know, I'm looking at total costs of about, you know, two to three million dollars at this point.
00:12:49.760 It's incredible.
00:12:50.720 And most Americans would be bankrupt right now if they had to defend themselves against this onslaught of Marxist-dim lawfare.
00:13:03.620 How can there be it?
00:13:05.500 Does the Bar Association, does anyone in the legal profession have a conscience of any kind about the ideals of justice in America?
00:13:16.220 Lou, I mean, it's really sad.
00:13:18.140 We we've spent several times on your program talking about the state of of disrepair and and potential corruption, not to put too fine a word on it, that the legal practice in America has sunk to.
00:13:33.720 And it's it's very sad.
00:13:36.340 And look, I think the last time I was on your program, I noted for you that, you know, and if I if it weren't your program, I apologize.
00:13:44.940 I might be telling you this for the first time.
00:13:46.620 The DC bar has a rule that makes the DC disciplinary council immune from the very ethics law that he enforces.
00:13:56.000 So when we see him violating things by threatening me, for instance, at the start of the of the whole process, he when he spoke to my lawyer for the first time, he said, look, I don't want to be seeing a whole bunch of objections to this.
00:14:10.820 I don't want to be seeing, you know, quote, unquote, a whole bunch of, you know, big law tactics.
00:14:16.480 You know, if if I see that, if I see you, for instance, take the Fifth Amendment, which you're telling me you might do, then I'm going to ratchet up the discipline when I do get a finding that he engaged in misconduct.
00:14:30.380 And I will get that finding. So you should keep that in mind as you go forward.
00:14:34.800 I mean, just an open, naked threat, which is clearly unethical.
00:14:38.200 Like if you were a lawyer in private practice and you launch that against somebody like I'm going to you know, you better agree to my deal here to settle this litigation or else, you know, I'm going to get your bar license taken.
00:14:50.340 Right. Like you would lose your bar license for making those threats.
00:14:53.560 Yet he's immune from those kinds of threats.
00:14:56.280 It's it's really unbelievable.
00:14:57.580 And, you know, the shame is that a working man and woman raising a family in this country can't have just simply could not afford to have first class legal help in this country any longer.
00:15:13.580 This is a this is a sick joke.
00:15:17.040 The legal profession right now.
00:15:19.320 Sure, we've got justice, you but you can't afford it.
00:15:21.640 So we'll we'll come up with something else.
00:15:24.600 Because it's not a two tier system of justice.
00:15:28.640 It's a one tier system of justice.
00:15:31.160 And by the way, working men and women and their families, the middle class, they they have no place to go to seek a remedy that would amount to truth, justice and the American way.
00:15:43.540 This is this is a it's a slur on the very idea of justice in America.
00:15:50.960 So, Lou, many, many, many days, I feel like I'm kind of a particularized target.
00:15:57.760 Right. And I'm in a trench and, you know, the enemy for some reason is directed, you know, 60 percent of the machine guns on my position.
00:16:06.580 Right. And I I'm kind of just like I'm holed up there.
00:16:09.120 It's like it's hard to get out. But I have made a commitment, which I've told my lawyers about.
00:16:14.040 And I guess I'm telling your audience about now that if I can emerge from, you know, these attacks that that now having seen the criminal justice process up close and the bar disciplinary process up close.
00:16:27.300 You know, I make a commitment that I want to dedicate pro bono time to helping the ordinary Americans you're talking about.
00:16:35.460 One of the things I'm doing now, right, I can't I can't represent them in litigation, do my day job and defend myself.
00:16:41.920 But again, if I can emerge, you know, one of the things I am doing, though, is, you know, I try to help the Patriot Freedom Project.
00:16:48.280 I mean, they're they're dealing with the fact that the book has been thrown at them for conduct that if it was on the left by Antifa or BLM, wouldn't even get a slap on the wrist.
00:16:58.520 And it's it's working permanent damage, like permanent generational damage.
00:17:02.740 There are young kids who are growing up without fathers or without mothers because of how the Biden administration has tried to paint them as like the new civil war.
00:17:12.020 I mean, it's it's completely unjust and it's not right and it's not American. 0.56
00:17:18.280 And it's and it's a shame we're talking with Jeffrey Clark.
00:17:23.100 When we come back, we're going to talk about what is happening now with the president and what is likely to happen as we look forward to a president who has to win this election.
00:17:35.440 We're talking with Jeffrey Clark. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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00:18:03.480 We're back now with Jeffrey Clark and Jeff, what do you make of all of this talk?
00:18:18.120 Much of it seems like it's been originating from Barack Obama, who led Joe Biden off by the hand of the stage in a fundraiser in L.A.
00:18:27.920 last week. But apparently they're talking seriously.
00:18:33.040 That is, Schumer and Pelosi and Clinton and Obama about replacing Joe Biden.
00:18:43.680 What do you think of it?
00:18:45.760 Well, I think that what we're seeing is a warring set of factions inside the Democrat Party.
00:18:50.740 There are those who want Joe Biden, I think, because he functionally is a puppet and they know the people around him who are running the show and and they want them to just, you know, entirely continue in place.
00:19:03.020 And there are others who are saying, look, you know, we got to dump this guy.
00:19:07.400 He's going to take us to another Trump term.
00:19:09.940 And, you know, we have to incur some risk for that.
00:19:14.220 That means that, you know, we might get someone who's not quite as manipulable.
00:19:18.540 And I think even in that category, and I'm not, you know, impressed with her, you know, the current vice president, Kamala Harris, might fall into that category.
00:19:28.860 Right.
00:19:28.980 And she might start to develop her own ideas about what direction to take the country in.
00:19:33.500 And I don't think some of these like Mandarin power broker types behind the scenes are really interested in that if they can avoid it. 0.99
00:19:40.860 I think that's I think I can't imagine her having an original idea.
00:19:46.160 Well, look, I will say it's kind of a head scratcher for me because I first, you know, I'd seen her actions as attorney general in California and but didn't really see a lot of her kind of in action.
00:19:58.980 Until she showed up on the Senate Judiciary Committee after the the 2018 loss of the House and the and on the Senate.
00:20:08.740 So, you know, went even Stephen.
00:20:11.540 And so she got added to the Judiciary Committee.
00:20:13.920 So because my nomination was not done by the end of, you know, 2017, she shows up on the committee at the start of 2018.
00:20:21.600 And I was watching her commentary, et cetera, comparing that to like this empty headed laughter.
00:20:27.160 She often projects and some of the things I've seen her do about Ukraine when they've sent her over there.
00:20:31.920 It's like night and day.
00:20:33.260 Like, I don't I don't understand.
00:20:34.580 It's almost like, you know, kind of they've sucked out some brain cells or something.
00:20:40.780 But so I agree with where you're coming from now.
00:20:43.120 But earlier when I'd seen her in action, I didn't see her, you know, acting in the same way.
00:20:48.600 I don't know what accounts for the change.
00:20:50.140 Well, maybe they have an antidote to the juice stuff that Joe takes and that they're giving that to her to bring them to some sort of medium in terms of their cognitive ability.
00:21:03.660 Who knows?
00:21:05.320 The reality is I still can't imagine her doing anything remotely like independent thinking.
00:21:13.520 Right. Right. I hear you.
00:21:16.680 But look, I think that this is one reason why they've set up this very early debate in June with with Biden, because I think those who are in the Biden camp and in this group of power brokers, they think they if they can show that Joe Biden can withstand a debate with Donald Trump, maybe they can keep him on the ticket.
00:21:36.540 And so it's going to be a big test for Biden.
00:21:38.620 Right. If he stumbles during that debate, I think they're probably going to give him the hook.
00:21:43.520 Well, if they gave him the hook, I would think at that point that Donald Trump would have to be scratching his head about why in the world did he accept no, no regulations of any kind, no conditions, just a, you know, bare knuckle debate with the impaired Joe Biden.
00:22:04.640 I mean, if they replaced him, that would be a big deal.
00:22:09.440 Yeah, would be a big deal.
00:22:10.840 And look, I, you know, not to steal points from others, but, you know, here I can't resist.
00:22:17.620 You know, I heard, you know, our friend Steve Bannon today say that, look, that would amount to like basically President Trump giving them a free preview.
00:22:25.740 Right. Like we shouldn't be doing like do overs and free previews.
00:22:30.540 Right. We should make sure that President Trump is only debating against the actual person who's going to be the candidate opposing it.
00:22:36.280 Well, I think Steve is is usually the case.
00:22:39.760 It makes great sense.
00:22:41.420 And I would hope that the campaign of Donald Trump would listen to him because Steve Bannon has he's I'll put it this way.
00:22:51.700 He's got a good sense of rough justice that measures, I think, favorably up with that of the the Marxist Dems in this country.
00:23:01.520 So what are we to do here?
00:23:04.600 We're looking at fundraising and the president is raising.
00:23:07.880 President Trump is raising a fortune.
00:23:10.760 He looks like he's going to be well armed going into the summer and then into October.
00:23:17.620 What do you think?
00:23:18.660 Yeah, I think the fundraising is is going pretty well.
00:23:24.340 I think there will be more grassroots Americans who step up to help President Trump as we get closer, especially, you know, as they see more and more crazy things emerging from the Biden administration like this kind of new, you know, amnesty related announcement, which I haven't had the time to spend, you know, to study in detail yet.
00:23:44.480 But, you know, from what I'm seeing, in terms of high points, it sounds like a disaster.
00:23:49.300 And, you know, look, what you say about Steve is true.
00:23:51.720 And that's why they're trying to take him off the field.
00:23:53.580 Right. Like he has a report date of July 1st to federal prison, which is one reason why my organization, you know, and I put this together, are calling for a resolution for the House to repudiate the January 6th committee, repudiate its subpoenas,
00:24:10.200 has explained to the American people that the January 6th committee was not put together in compliance with law.
00:24:17.660 And, you know, look, I think if he's taken off the field with just a few months left before the election, that's a that's a serious blow.
00:24:24.440 And that's you know, we got to resist that if we can.
00:24:27.360 But that's exactly why the Dems want to do it.
00:24:29.300 Well, and to look at it honestly, where is Mike Johnson right now?
00:24:35.140 Thomas Massey put out the proposition. 0.99
00:24:38.340 He laid it out for them, said, Mike Johnson, invalidate the damn committee. 0.99
00:24:46.500 And what did we hear from Mike Johnson? 0.99
00:24:49.320 We heard from Mike Johnson in these intervening now weeks.
00:24:53.220 Nothing but the usual squeaks and squeals.
00:24:59.100 He doesn't mean to do anything that is helpful to the Republican Party.
00:25:04.600 And for whatever reason, President Trump does not want to grasp that reality. 0.99
00:25:10.740 This man is a fraud. 1.00
00:25:12.260 He is a lightweight. 1.00
00:25:13.260 And by the way, that doesn't mean that he's not evil, because, you know, he is right now a cornered, a cornered rat, it seems, in that speaker's office. 0.83
00:25:24.760 What do you think?
00:25:26.380 Well, I'm praying that, you know, he takes the more aggressive effort that's being put in front of him by Massey, by, you know, Matt Gaetz and others.
00:25:37.460 You know, look, it seems to me there are three things that can be done, right?
00:25:41.780 And there really shouldn't be an excuse for not doing one of the three.
00:25:46.320 So in order of aggressiveness, from most aggressive to least aggressiveness, they would be, number one, this resolution that basically tries to invalidate the January 6th committee and its subpoenas and explains why.
00:25:58.780 Number two would be for the House to send an amicus brief into the federal courts to help Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro.
00:26:06.400 And that's controlled by this entity called the Bipartisan Law Advisory Group, the BLAG, which I'm sure most people have never heard of before now.
00:26:16.300 They control whether, and Mike Johnson sits on the BLAG, they control whether an amicus brief like that goes out.
00:26:23.060 And third is, if they can't do the other two things, right, maybe because, especially for the resolution, they can't get enough votes on the floor, they should at least send a letter to the federal courts indicating that it is no longer the position of the House of Representatives that the January 6th subpoenas were issued properly.
00:26:42.320 Well, the Speaker himself could do that unilaterally and with great force and let the Democrats worry about trying to persuade everyone of the legitimacy of that absurd Soviet-style committee.
00:27:00.780 It's ignorance on its face. 0.64
00:27:02.580 It is on its face.
00:27:04.300 It is illegitimate.
00:27:06.040 The Republican participants weren't even chosen by the Republican leadership.
00:27:10.440 It's atrocious.
00:27:13.660 And yet the Republicans don't have the guts to pick themselves up or pick up their leader by the nape of the neck and say, do something.
00:27:22.600 Yeah.
00:27:23.360 Lou, here's an example, right?
00:27:25.440 I haven't covered this point before, so I'll make some news for you, right?
00:27:29.600 So, you know, the process required having the Republican leadership, the Republican conference select the ranking member of the January 6th committee, right, and appoint the members.
00:27:41.200 So they didn't follow that and they refused to seat Jim Banks and, you know, Jim Jordan on the committee, right?
00:27:47.720 That's just totally atrocious and violates all kinds of norms and historical traditions of Congress.
00:27:55.720 But what's the flow through from that?
00:27:58.000 It legitimizes the committee.
00:28:00.100 Yes.
00:28:00.600 So the right.
00:28:01.640 It legitimizes it.
00:28:03.000 Yeah.
00:28:03.400 But the flow through is, and the rules require this, that if you have a ranking minority member, that ranking minority member picks a minority council.
00:28:11.080 And the rules that govern the January 6th committee required that there be equal time given to any deposition between majority council and minority council.
00:28:20.000 But since there was no minority council, there was no ability to have equal time.
00:28:24.060 So what did they do?
00:28:25.760 They tried to hide this from the American people by naming Liz Cheney, you know, the supposed Republican on the panel, you know, much smarter than Adam Kinzinger, as the vice chair of the committee, right? 0.84
00:28:39.000 But that's not a ranking minority member.
00:28:41.080 They just tried to give her an elevated title. 1.00
00:28:43.100 And then she picked a council who was not the minority council because of these defects in process.
00:28:50.780 Instead, it was someone who was called, you know, counsel to vice chair Cheney.
00:28:56.380 And who was this person?
00:28:58.080 He is a former Bush 43 U.S. attorney.
00:29:00.960 Indeed, he was one of my partners at my law firm, Kirkland Ellis.
00:29:04.680 So here he is, like someone who I thought was my friend, who was a colleague in Bush 43, signs up with Liz Cheney, and then he's going after me and going after President Trump and others.
00:29:15.040 I mean, it's truly remarkable.
00:29:16.900 And it does point to the dysfunctionalities in the Republican Party that you pointed out, Lou.
00:29:22.000 The dysfunctionality and the desperate need for testosterone injections throughout that conference.
00:29:29.960 I mean, there are exceptions.
00:29:33.300 But people have got to understand that it isn't enough to have warm and clever thoughts.
00:29:39.720 It is a time to actually do something.
00:29:42.640 And Mike Johnson is going to be the last person in that conference ever to vote to do something, unfortunately.
00:29:49.440 I hope I'm wrong, but I think that's where we are.
00:29:53.140 I hope you're wrong, too, Lou.
00:29:54.480 I hope, you know, lately he's been, you know, taking some steps in the right direction.
00:30:00.800 I hope he continues in that regard.
00:30:02.880 Yeah, well, the steps have got to be significant strides at this point to make up for lost time and position.
00:30:12.920 Jeffrey Clark, thanks for being with us.
00:30:14.480 Appreciate it.
00:30:15.120 Always great to see you and all the best, my friend.
00:30:17.340 Thank you.
00:30:17.880 And always good to be with you, Lou.
00:30:19.080 Thanks.
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