St. Louis, Missouri has lost 75% of its population in less than a century, and it s becoming a ghost town. Mayor Sam Dotson and the police have been unable to keep pace with the growing crime rate, and the city s population is on the brink of extinction. How will it survive?
00:02:20.920The subject is a country right now with so many economic problems, so many societal problems.
00:02:28.160But when we look specifically at a city like St. Louis, to see what has happened to that city is just astonishing to me, and I'm sure to the audience of this podcast.
00:02:42.700It is unthinkable that it could just lose three-quarters of its population and have no way forward right now that's at least obvious.
00:03:16.060There was a new entertainment district developed in downtown St. Louis over the last 20 or so years called the Washington Avenue Entertainment District.
00:03:23.760But it is such a war zone now, people won't go out.
00:03:26.860At night, the streets are controlled by roving gangs of armed young, you know, adults out there.
00:03:34.620They're basically street racing, shooting each other, and the cops just stand back and watch it happen.
00:03:39.880They put up the logic of the left, of course, is that people aren't responsible for what they do.
00:03:45.900Their vehicles are responsible for car accidents.
00:03:47.960Their guns are responsible for shooting, but the people are blameless.
00:03:51.880So instead of decreasing the level of violence, they put up road barricades to make the speeding less possible.
00:03:59.640And now, of course, you know, our illustrious mayor of St. Louis has decided that the way to reduce crime is to hold the businesses accountable that have crime in their parking lots, which is just absolutely amazing.
00:04:13.580And, you know, as you mentioned, St. Louis is a ghost town.
00:04:18.540My office is on something called Lindell Boulevard, which is not pronounced the same way as Mike pronounces his name, but spelled the same.
00:04:26.860But it's like Michigan Avenue in Chicago goes from my office straight downtown to the courthouse in what used to be the core business district, but there isn't one anymore.
00:04:35.620You could lay down on Lindell Boulevard at nine o'clock in the morning and not get run over by a car.
00:04:41.140There's just nothing going on in the city of St. Louis.
00:05:18.240Where I live, the reason why I don't move, and I've got a nice country place about 45 miles west of here, and we've got our chickens and our vegetable garden.
00:05:29.220We're ready to go out there and have to live off the land if we have to.
00:05:32.420But I have a house here in St. Louis, which is not replaceable anywhere else.
00:05:37.160One of the things that I always say is one of the nice things about the decline of Western civilization is that a guy like me can afford to live in a house like I live in.
00:05:44.780And we've all seen your house, because of the Black Lives Matter harassment of you and your wife, with you and your wife out there with your weapons at the ready.
00:06:53.780$3 a square foot in St. Louis versus $1,000 in New York City.
00:06:58.240The largest office building in the world before the building of the Pentagon, the building in downtown St. Louis called the Railway Exchange Building.
00:07:04.880For most of my life, it was a headquarters for Famous & Bar, which was a department store later, Macy's.
00:07:22.900The bums, the homeless had broken in, stolen everything, started setting fires to it.
00:07:29.500The city condemned it and boarded it up.
00:07:31.360Here was the largest office building in the world for decades, which is now a board-up, condemned building in the heart of downtown St. Louis.
00:07:38.700And that's, you know, when you talk about people fleeing the city, why not?
00:07:43.700I mean, it's, for the average person, you're faced with crime, a government that wants to protect the criminals against honest citizens instead of protecting the honest citizens against criminals.
00:07:58.560It is truly gut-wrenching to think of all that has transpired in St. Louis and in many other cities around the country.
00:08:06.940But all in the name of progress, we're looking at disaster.
00:08:11.900We're talking with attorney Mark McCloskey, and we're going to talk about what we see as the possible future for a number of cities, including St. Louis.
00:08:23.680Mark is a very smart fellow, as you've already discerned.
00:08:27.040We need to understand where these policies that lead to these kinds of desperate and dire and devastating consequences, where do they originate?
00:08:42.920And why in the world are so many of them so popular in, well, many of the country cities that are on the same path as St. Louis?
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00:10:28.500We're talking with attorney, distinguished and well-known attorney, Mark McCloskey.
00:10:36.400We're talking about the travails of St. Louis, and that is an understatement.
00:10:42.420Frankly, it is a desperate situation that the city is just, I don't know.
00:10:49.060Mark, is St. Louis actually going to survive?
00:10:52.900Well, it depends on your definition of survival.
00:10:55.080Well, I genuinely believe, I mean, I've been living here most of my life.
00:10:59.240I took eight years going to college and law school in Texas and started practicing there.
00:11:03.040But the rest of my life, I've lived in St. Louis, and it's gone from being a great city.
00:11:07.680We had five of the largest defense contractors in the city of St. Louis and Monsanto and all kinds of major corporate entities, essentially none anymore.
00:11:18.220They used to make Corvettes in downtown St. Louis, not anymore.
00:11:20.720Our auto industry is gone, truck industry is gone, and it's not coincidental.
00:11:28.360We haven't had a Republican administration in the city of St. Louis since 1949.
00:11:33.040But then it was mostly, you know, in the old days, Democrats weren't over-communists.
00:11:37.780In the old days, Democrats had differing political philosophies, but you didn't get the impression that they were intentionally trying to destroy the country.
00:11:44.960I have come to the conclusion that all these places like St. Louis and Chicago and Baltimore and L.A. and San Francisco and New York, the people that run those cities actively want to destroy our civilization.
00:12:11.380There are some people that are so stupid out there, you can believe that they'd make these kinds of errors.
00:12:16.560My favorite example today, though, is I saw this right before we got on the air.
00:12:21.000City of San Francisco is floating an ordinance to make businesses give six months notice before they go out of business or their customers can sue them.
00:12:30.380OK, I plan on being broke in six months and I'm going to have to close down.
00:12:34.800And if I don't give you six months notice, you as a customer can sue me for the very reason I'm going out of business because I can't make a living in this crime infested.
00:12:45.120You know, I won't use the language that the president used about some other countries, but you know what I'm saying.
00:13:05.220What are all these decisions designed to do is to make small businesses untenable, to force them out of business, to make crime such that they can't afford the security necessary to stay in business.
00:13:16.500In the grocery store across the street from my house here in the west end of St. Louis, you have to go and ask the clerk to unlock the laundry detergent because it's such a crime ridden area.
00:13:27.060You have to go and say the laundry detergent, laundry detergent.
00:13:28.880I mean, not drug precursors, not alcohol, not cigarettes, but laundry detergent has to be locked up.
00:15:02.060It's abandoned fields, burned out houses and empty fields.
00:15:06.260You know, and then the population that has fled from there has moved further out into the suburbs and replicating the same situation that used to be here in North St. Louis.
00:15:16.300And so, and the government, once again, instead of doing anything effective about controlling crime, is punishing the people who are the victims of crime, punishing the small business owners that are out there, you know, sacrificing their lives and their capital to try to make an improvement in their communities.
00:15:34.780And our mayor wants to hold them accountable for the crime that she is allowing to have happen.
00:15:40.440Fortunately, the police department of the city of St. Louis is going to be taken back over by the state of Missouri.
00:15:47.980It's been under the control of the city only since 2012.
00:15:51.480It had been run by the state government because of the rampant corruption in St. Louis.
00:15:55.800For a long time, the city of St. Louis got control of its own police department, again, I think, in 2012.
00:16:01.740But as of August 28th of this year, it's going back to being controlled by the state government for the very reasons we're discussing.
00:16:08.500St. Louis is incapable of governing itself.
00:16:11.540And the power structure in St. Louis, I'm going to ask this this way, because whether it's Chicago, St. Louis, we are seeing a decidedly racial divide in those cities, whether that was the predicate to what the conditions are today, or whether it is the result of other forces that were to work over a long period of time.
00:16:37.880Right now, there is a strong, powerful implication of racial conflict at the bedrock of what is happening in these cities.
00:16:49.900Is that true or is that just an appearance?
00:16:53.300At least the powers that be want to sell the concept that everything is racist.
00:16:58.740But of course, it's all divide and conquer, right?
00:17:02.620And so they promote the concept that everything that's wrong with certain races in this country, particularly African-Americans, is a result of white privilege and racism.
00:17:14.240And so then you get people like, for example, now Jasmine Crockett, who's a Democrat congresswoman from Texas, who says that African-Americans shouldn't have to pay taxes.
00:17:25.640Now, just saying that is going to piss off a lot of people that aren't paying taxes.
00:17:30.520But more than that, all it does is create another divide, create another wedge.
00:17:34.640And if we stand together as Americans, if we all stood up against the government and said, no, we're not going to stand for the destruction of our civilization.
00:17:42.700We're not going to stand for the destruction of Western culture.
00:17:45.800We're not going to let communists take over our country and continue to destroy our freedoms.
00:17:52.440And I always say this every time I give a presentation.
00:17:55.340I was down in Beaumont, Texas, last week talking to the largest Republican women's club in Texas.
00:18:01.400And I said, look, I always recite the Declaration of Independence.
00:18:04.900And I say that line where it says that to secure these rights, governments are instituted amongst men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the government.
00:18:13.560And that's us. And whenever any bad thing happens, when our country moves towards communism, when our president declares unconstitutional mandates, when any of these things happen, when they lock us down under the pandemic, any of these things happen.
00:18:27.740And it's because we consent to it, because we're too complacent, because we've been too cowed, because we're too fat and happy and we allow these things to happen.
00:18:38.800Well, our Declaration of Independence says that power belongs to us, not to the government.
00:18:44.000And when any form of government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
00:18:51.680And that's that's where we are right now in this country.
00:18:53.680We've got a power structure that is actively seeking to destroy our freedoms, our republic, our way of life and our culture.
00:19:00.940And the American people need to stand up and say, we will not tolerate it and tolerate it.
00:19:08.900We will not. We're talking with Mark McCloskey and we're coming right back with him.
00:19:13.740We're going to talk about some of these issues.
00:19:16.240For example, what has been the role of business itself, corporate America?
00:19:20.380What has been the role of the Democratic Party?
00:19:23.120Where have the Republicans been and how is it that we could come to a point that we were the world's only superpower
00:19:29.400and are now struggling for our very survival as both a constitutional republic and a superpower?
00:20:03.700I hope you'll be joining us for Lou Dobbs Tonight as our fight to save this country has only begun.
00:20:10.680We're back. We're talking with Mark McCloskey.
00:20:18.460He is, as I said, a terrific, great American.
00:20:23.800Let's talk about what we're witnessing right now in D.C.
00:20:27.780because it is certainly central to a lot of what ails us at every level of government and every part of our society.
00:20:35.000The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, actually bucking the head of the party, that is, President Donald Trump, who said, kill the FISA bill.
00:21:04.160Well, he's either a damn fool or he's compromised or he's a liar.
00:21:09.760I mean, he takes over the Speaker's position after we get rid of Kevin McCarthy for basically just being a show for the Democrats.
00:21:19.460And he runs on a platform, essentially, of being a constitutional conservative against spending, against endless wars, in favor of the right of privacy and the integrity of our individual personal rights.
00:21:38.340He's going to try to pass $60 billion more for the endless war in Ukraine at a time when our own border is just open.
00:21:47.000And our government, United States government, is putting foreigners on airplanes, illegal aliens, flying them at your dollar and mine into the country and dispersing them without any kind of vetting, without any kind of background checks.
00:21:59.940Just doing everything which in any other country would be considered treasonous and it's going on and Mike Johnson is not doing anything about it.
00:22:08.700But the problem is you get elected to Congress and all of a sudden you become beholden to the power structure that's going to get you reelected.
00:22:47.700They get controlled by going out to nice dinner parties and smoking cigars and drinking scotch at nice clubs, going out to Martha's Vineyard and hobnobbing with ex-presidents.
00:22:57.540And they sell their soul for their political survival.
00:23:02.340And what this country needs is people going to Congress and going to the elected president, people like Donald Trump.
00:23:07.880That aren't doing it for their own self-aggrandizement.
00:23:10.840But doing it despite what it costs them personally, economically, socially.
00:23:15.180And what you need, this country is founded on the concept that Congress would come and meet from time to time when necessary.
00:23:22.080And there would be citizens who would give up their time and give up their lives to come for the benefit of their fellow man.
00:23:28.180Now we have professional politicians at every level, from the city of St. Louis to Jefferson City, our state capital, to Washington, D.C., where what we have is people that want to stay in their positions at all costs for as long as they possibly can.
00:23:43.560Not for the benefit of the people, not for the benefit of the people, not to improve our society, not to preserve our culture and our freedom, but to preserve their position and the support of their lobbyists.
00:23:53.700And that's the crux of everything wrong, I think, with the country today.
00:23:57.220And I couldn't quibble with a word of what you've said.
00:24:01.520And I hope everyone really thinks about what you've said and takes it to heart.
00:24:08.160I'm sure that most people listening to you right now agree with you.
00:24:12.960We have right also right now a government that is confounding because and I was thinking about it as you were just talking.
00:24:22.520I don't believe I believe that President Trump is the only president since I think since Roosevelt, who has arguably Kennedy, but nonetheless, either Franklin Delano Roosevelt and or John Kennedy.
00:24:45.280They're the only two presidents that have any chance of being those who came in with more money than they left the Oval Office.
00:24:57.500We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:25:00.260We talk about Obama and we talk about Clinton.
00:25:03.440We are talking about pillaging from the Oval Office.
00:25:09.680And no one raises a hand, certainly not the FBI, certainly not any of the investigative agencies of the committees of the U.S. Congress or Senate.
00:26:10.160But look at look at poor old Peter Navarro sitting in jail right now for doing no more than the job he was assigned to do and doing what the Constitution authorized and required him to do.
00:26:22.040Exactly. And in the process, an illegitimate committee, a committee illegally formed, attacking the man and destroying President Trump's executive privileges, rolling back attorney-client privileges as well.
00:26:41.000That's the worst thing right there, that now that this government is requiring you, you get arrested.
00:26:47.220How are you going to get a lawyer to represent you when you know, A, that if you represent some guy like Donald Trump, they're going to prosecute you and try to pull your law license?
00:26:56.540And then if you do take on the representation, some bizarre leftist judge is going to use the crime fraud exception to require you to testify against your own client.
00:27:10.580I mean, I'd give up my law license in a second if some judge made me do that, because you cannot do that in good conscience and you cannot do it and be a lawyer.
00:27:18.880I mean, that that is a very basic foundation of everything we hold near and dear in this profession.
00:27:24.400We don't have a judicial system anymore. We've got the KGB.
00:27:28.140We've got and we've got the coercive arm of the left being used.
00:27:32.880And I called it coup by by subpoena about two and a half years ago.
00:27:36.680But it's not by subpoena anymore. Now it's it's coup by prison.
00:27:40.640I mean, if you stand up, there's only one unforgivable crime in America today, and that's standing up against the left.
00:27:46.380You can steal as much as you want to if you're in the power structure.
00:27:49.880But if you run against and look like you're going to win against the left, they will persecute you.
00:27:55.020They will prosecute you. And they will.
00:27:57.080I mean, some of these verdicts like in the the judge's decision against Trump and four hundred and fifty four million dollars,
00:28:03.960hundred and forty million dollars in a jury verdict against Rudy Giuliani in favor of some nameless election judges who could not possibly have been defamed.
00:28:13.200One hundred and forty million dollars. It's it's it's a it is a criminal enterprise from the top down run by the left to destroy the opposition.
00:28:21.980It's no different than the Soviet Union or red China.
00:28:26.420Mark McCloskey, thanks for being with us here. We appreciate it as always.
00:28:50.020Remarkable. I told you the man was quite a witness and observer and analyst of all that is happening in the body politic and this society of ours.
00:29:01.540And I think he just nailed the legal system as well.