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In a rare display of integrity, a Democrat judge in the deep blue state of Connecticut overturned a local mayoral primary race, Democrat versus Democrat, as the judge ordered a new election after witnessing massive fraud on video. Back in September, mayoral challenger John Gomes' campaign revealed a video showing a woman dropping stacks of illegal ballots into a drop box outside the Bridgeport Government Center in the wee hours of the morning. That woman happened to be the vice chairwoman of the Democratic Town Committee and a supporter of the incumbent mayor seeking re-election. And not surprisingly, Gomes wound up losing that September primary by only 251 votes, and coincidentally, he was beaten by those absentee ballots.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with
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us. In a rare display of integrity, a Democrat judge in the deep blue state of Connecticut
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overturned a local mayoral primary race, Democrat versus Democrat, as the judge ordered a new election
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after witnessing massive fraud on video. Back in September, Bridgeport mayoral challenger
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John Gomes' campaign revealed a video showing a woman dropping stacks of illegal ballots into a
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drop box directly outside the Bridgeport Government Center in the wee hours of the morning. That's
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right. Right in plain sight, on camera, cheating and cheating some more. The Gomes campaign was able
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to identify the woman in the video. She happened to be the vice chairwoman of the Democratic town
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Clark and a supporter of the incumbent mayor seeking re-election. And not surprisingly,
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Gomes wound up losing that September primary by only 251 votes, and coincidentally, he was beaten
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two to one by those absentee ballots. Superior Court Judge William Clark, to his credit, and we salute
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him, declared the volume of ballots were so mishandled, so egregiously, that he threw out the rigged
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primary election and ordered a new election. And here is the challenger, John Gomes. John,
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great to have you with us. You've got to be pleased. Without a doubt, it is an unprecedented
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moment here as far as we're looking at history and the outcome of the campaign, as you said.
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The primary, which happened on September 12th, which I was victorious on the polls by 470 votes
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and turned out to lose after the polls closed by 251 votes, we came across evidence that showed
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tampering with ballot stuffing of illegal absentee ballots, and we presented our case.
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And two days ago, we became, the judge awarded us the case, and we became, we were victorious
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and ordered a new primary. Right. What a judge. What a judge. I mean, I have to salute him
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and his decision. Not many judges have had the guts to do what he did. Your thoughts?
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Well, I definitely agree. We're grateful to have this judgment. But at the same time,
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we understand that here at Bridgeport, we have had our issues with absentee ballot and its impact
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on the outcome of elections, both going back to 2017 to 2022, which was state district election.
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But we also had issues with 2019 mayoral election, which actually has been referred for criminal charges
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for some perpetrators and equally for our campaign or our election now in 2023. The only difference with
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our election in 2023 was that the evidence was overwhelming. It was video showing, you know,
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in excess of over, as the case pointed out, I believe almost 1,300 votes that were unaccounted for.
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Right. And without question, Connecticut and Bridgeport have had a history of issues, I'll put it that way.
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But this is, it's predominantly, is it not, a Democratic stronghold?
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Well, you know, speaking, I mean, the experience where I live here at Bridgeport, I can definitely
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tell you we've had issues with absentee ballot here in Bridgeport. Obviously, you know, what's going
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on nationally or Democratic parties. Sorry, sorry, John. But it is a predominantly Democratic city,
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right? Right. In Bridgeport. Yes. In Bridgeport, I will talk directly with that. Yes. It's a 95%,
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94%, 94%, predominantly Democrat. And so they're cheating each other. I mean, the party,
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they couldn't find any Republicans, so they decided to cheat each other. Is that what we're
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figuring out here? Well, this, what we've shown was that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence
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that there was a conspiracy within the party, within the town committee and elected officials
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to steal the election away from me and from my voters. And we prevailed upon presenting all
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And you, I infer, you think it was racially motivated. Is that what you're saying?
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No, not racially motivated. It was greed motivated. It's, you know, when you have certain people that
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have been, you know, chair of the party for decades upon decades and controlled the majority,
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they do not want to let go, even though the people want change. And, you know, thank God that we came
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across the evidence to present it otherwise with what happened with the tampering.
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And so what happens now? Will there be an investigation? Will people be held to account?
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Will there be law enforcement investigations here? Or will it be a matter that if you prevail,
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for example, because you're on the independent ticket as well, will it just be sort of,
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you know, bygones or bygones and we'll move on from here?
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I hope not. I hope that justice serves itself through. There are, the SEC is currently looking
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at some mishandling and complaints that have been submitted. They've also taken possession of the
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evidence from the register office. And, you know, we're hoping that it doesn't end this way,
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that there is some criminal justice, criminal justification done and arrests made to those
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that perpetrated this conspiracy and this act purposely, purposely and malicious and attacked
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civil rights of all the voters here in Bridgeport.
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And you're thinking, did you have a suspicion that this might be a rigged election, this primary election
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Well, you know, you always have your doubt. You do everything you can with the campaign to strategic
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plan for everything that you could think could go wrong. But no way that we imagine the magnitude
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of what we discovered. It's beyond belief. Just a mere fact to look at the number of times the ballots
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were stopped by some of the people. There really, there was no word to describe it beyond it was
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And unbelievable, which is what a lot of people have been talking about a number of rigged elections
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here in recent years. The judge in this case stands out because he actually did something.
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And to what degree, I mean, what is your reaction to this judge and to the system of justice,
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at least in Bridgeport? I mean, it is so commendable. And so to me, brave of him in this day and age
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to stand up against election fraud. He deserves, I think, a pillar or a statue or something in the
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center of Bridgeport. Well, obviously, the positive thing, the positive outcome is that, you know,
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the evidence that we presented brought clear spotlight to what has been happening during the
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last several elections here in Bridgeport. We definitely applaud the judge. And most of all,
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it restores, it begins the process of healing, healing for the residents of Bridgeport, at least
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one step there. And what we're saying as a candidate is for all the voters to please show
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up on November 7th and cast their vote and make sure it's count equally and fairly. And if they
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have any doubt in regards to absentee ballot process, go in person and vote. But we definitely
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agree that, you know, it's unprecedented with Judge Clark did.
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Unprecedented and, as I said, commendable. On Tuesday, what are your polls showing? What is
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your judgment about what is happening in the community? You talked about healing. There's a
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strange aspect of this in that it is all intra-Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is usually
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conformist and march on lockstep. What is the what is the source of the fissure that divides the
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Democrat Party there? Well, I think it's just select a few within the Democratic Party here in
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Bridgeport that's looking to maintain their interest and continue to have an inclusive
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corrupt system for themselves here in Bridgeport. And fortunately, with the evidence presented,
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we hope to break that. And again, with the vote voters come out on September, I mean,
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on November 7th and cast their vote, we've been talking to, you know, the voters here in Bridgeport
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across all party lines, not only the Democrat, Independent, Republican and affiliate. And the
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sentiment is equal that they're all tired of what has happened. They're tired of the consistency of the
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voter oppression. And now there's a sprinkle of hope that things will change based on this decision that
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was made. This historic decision that was made two days ago by Judge Clark.
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As you say, historic, because this had been the integrity of the election or lack of integrity of
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elections has been, in your judgment, been going on for quite some time. John, we appreciate you being
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with us. And thanks for telling us your story. And best of luck on Tuesday.
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Well, thank you. And I appreciate the opportunity. And again, you know, I look forward to seeing the
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voters out there on November 7th, and I'll be on row D1. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks so much, John. Best of
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Just so we all don't forget that there's very little integrity in our judicial system and our
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federal government, particularly in the DOJ. The DOJ is still arresting January 6th demonstrators,
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almost three years later, throwing Trump supporters in jail. The Biden regime and the Marxist Dems want
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more political prisoners. When we return, our guest is the victim of the Marxist Dem lawfare,
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the corrupt Marxist left haters who hate not only Donald Trump, but all the attorneys who've represented
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him. Former Trump attorney John Eastman, our guest here today. Please stay with us. We'll be right back.
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We're back. And thank you for staying with us. As if the Department of Justice hasn't already done
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enough political damage, taken enough political prisoners, they're out for more. A new report from
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the Electronic Freedom Foundation revealing the federal government is using geo-tracking of cell
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phones to find out who was at the Capitol ground perimeter on the 6th of January. Geo-tracking is the
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very same technology that former Attorney General William Barr said the United States doesn't use.
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Geo-tracking is also the same technology that True the Vote used in their investigation of mail-in
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ballot box fraud. Of course, William Barr might deny that as well. Joining us now is attorney John
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Eastman, John clerk for Justice Clarence Thomas in the late 90s, a former chairman of the Federalist
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Society and served as dean at the Chapman University. John, it is great to have you with us. We know you're
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in a heck of a battle with the California Bar Association. All of this seems to be utter madness.
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Your thoughts? Well, I've said publicly, I think they've crossed the Rubicon here, both in the
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abusive use of the disciplinary systems to go after the lawyers. The head of the 65 project, which is
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one of the left-funded organizations behind all of these things, Barry was very explicit. Our goal is not
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just to disbar all the attorneys that were involved in any of the election challenges,
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but to make them so toxic in their firms and their communities that right-wing legal
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talent will never take on these kind of election challenges again. And of course, that would destroy
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our adversarial system of justice. And it's not limited to election challenges. Anybody that is,
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you know, raising challenges against government action, challenging, you know, the elite preferred
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views of things, whether it's transgender men in our girls' locker rooms or parents objecting at
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school boards to ridiculous things in the curriculum, people are being attacked for holding different
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views than the government demands that we hold. And that's an authoritarian turn that we've not seen in
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this country before. And I noticed the judge in your bar hearing, setting November 3rd as the date,
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being adamant that do what you will with your pleadings, your motions, and your arguments,
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but if she considers them supercilious, irrelevant, or beyond the scope of legal practice,
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that you'll be punished with 10-minute surmises and summaries. I mean, the arrogance of it all is just
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stunning. Well, you know, the law is pretty clear. If it's an open question and you advocate for a
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position to resolve that question, it's not supposed to be subject to discipline. Even if the issue has been
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settled, but you have a good faith basis for challenging the settled view of things, it's not
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supposed to be subject to discipline. So I remain confident, if the law is properly followed, that
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this thing will be put to rest and I will win. But that's a big if in my mind. 10 weeks and nearly a
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half a million dollars it's cost me to defend my bar license in California. This is extraordinary.
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You know, by the way, I've got, you know, malpractice insurance like every lawyer has.
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There's a cap on disciplinary proceedings of $25,000 because what we're dealing with is
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unprecedented. You know, normally a disciplinary proceeding is you, you stole some funds from
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your client trust account or whatever. Nothing like a 10-week long full-fledged trial making me
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defend, you know, because I said on the Steve Bannon show, we have evidence of election illegality
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in several of these states that apparently put at issue, even though that's First Amendment
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protected speech, that put at issue the validity of elections in all of the states, even states that
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I had nothing to do with. And so I've been having to defend the entirety of the election challenges
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on my own shoulders. To me, it's a remarkable moment in legal history in this country,
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because, you know, Fox is a very good example of a judge, a New York judge deciding with a jury
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present what the facts were, coming to the conclusion that any argument that the election was unfair
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in any way rigged would be outside just simply he wouldn't hear it. Right. And in point of fact,
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the whole issue, to my view, and I'm only speaking in my perspective on it, I don't even know what the
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Fox legal geniuses were thinking, but all I wanted was an investigation. I wanted it from the FBI. I wanted
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it from the Department of Justice. I wanted it even safe. The Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency
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lied about it, saying it was a perfect election within a week of the election, which would have
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made it impossible for them to have understood anything. This is the federal agency that we were
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supposed to accept their view. And the list goes on and on. Bill Barr talking about the election,
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I think it was December 1st of 2020. He lied. There was no FBI investigation or DOJ investigation of any
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kind. The man lied. He did. And he wasn't under oath, and he wasn't subject to cross-examination.
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He said, our investigations have revealed no evidence significant of a fraud to affect the
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outcome. So I suppose that was true because they didn't do any investigations. But he also didn't
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mention in that statement the illegality, which was obvious, whether eliminating signature verification
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in Pennsylvania or eliminating voter ID through a fraudulent directive to voters that they could
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falsely claim they were indefinitely confined and not have to provide ID, to creating human drop boxes
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in the town of Madison, Wisconsin, the University of Wisconsin, to government officials and county
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clerks actually doctoring the documents that came in, the outer envelopes, to provide information that was
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missing so that they could count the ballots. When state law was quite clear, if it's missing this
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information, the ballots shall not be counted. So they filled it in on their own. We call that
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doctoring of evidence. That ought to be a criminal prosecution. But of course, you know, they were
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supporting the status quo, the views of the government elite, and we're not supposed to challenge that. We're
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supposed to act like sheep instead of challenging and seeking the truth. This is the biggest troubling
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thing to me. We have ceased to be a free people if we can't raise questions to get
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investigations to get to the truth. I truly believe we are no longer a free people. I think we have,
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as you said, crossed that Rubicon. This country right now, and I detect it in so many places
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amongst the quote-unquote elites, whether it's working men and women in this country,
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right now they're fearful of their government. And I'm talking about people who have the money
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and the resources to fight in a courtroom. Fortunately for them,
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but those resources are at risk. And the typical attorney right now, a young attorney who steps in
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the way of the establishment left in the judiciary, the prosecutors, woe be to them because they are
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going to be ground up like hamburger. Well, I know. And we're seeing it. Big firms,
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small firms alike, declining to take on cases. I mean, think about our legal profession, going back
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to John Adams representing the British soldiers in the Boston Massacre. This is the noble profession,
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that everybody deserves a legal representation. But now if you take on a case, if you take on a case,
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you know, representing an Islamist terrorist, or somebody in Guantanamo Bay, you're given awards.
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But if you take on a Trump election challenge, or you take on parents at a school board,
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or what have you, you're hounded. And, you know, they'll likely try and bankrupt you through disciplinary
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processes. And, and for many people who are just getting started in their careers, they, you know,
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and got a new family being raised or whatever, they can't afford to take that risk. This is,
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this is aimed at destroying the adversarial system so that we don't have the ability to push
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back using the law. You know, Shakespeare once wrote in one of his plays, you know,
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first thing we do, we kill all the lawyers. Most people don't understand what was going on there.
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There was an attempted coup. And, and Dick the Butcher said, first thing we have to do is kill
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all the lawyers. Why? Because the lawyers get in the way of government tyranny. And that's what they're
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trying to destroy here, the ability to have representation to challenge tyrannical actions by our government.
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And that's, that's been flipped on its head. Now, attorneys seem to be, for the most part,
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representing the government and bowing down before the government, doing more than taking a knee.
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They're prostrate in and obsequious as they beg for whatever morsels they can from the almighty state.
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We're talking with John Eastman, a great American. He's in a battle for his career.
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And for justice. And we're going to continue our conversation with John in just one moment.
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We're back now. We're talking with attorney John Eastman. As I say, he is in battle fighting his
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state's bar association because he has a political view. He has freedom of speech,
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which isn't being honored by the, in my opinion, by the bar association, not even recognized, let alone
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supporting it. Let's, let's turn to where President Trump is right now, because the case that is
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fascinating me, uh, all of them are interesting and all of them are important, but the case, uh, the,
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the January six case, uh, presiding, uh, uh, judge, uh, Tanya Chutkin, a gag order against the president of
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the United States. And I realized, uh, a judge in New York has done so a state judge, but to me,
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this is far more important because I think, uh, it's just on its face prejudice. It is, uh, animus
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based on a differing ideology. And she is actually saying that I have to read this to you because
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it's, uh, it's just incredible. Chutkin says that the reason she would not lift the gag order while
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Donald Trump is appealing is because in her judgment, uh, he doesn't have a chance of winning.
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So she gets to decide about refusal. She gets to decide about whether or not he has the, uh,
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case before the appellate court. And, uh, and by the way, she hates his guts, which she's made
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clear publicly in a number of statements. How can that be tolerated by the federal judiciary
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or a moment? It, well, it shouldn't be. Look, I mean, we've, we've seen this over the last two
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years with all of the prosecutions of the, uh, January six protesters that went into the Capitol.
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I mean, if there was ever a more compelling case for a change of venue than this one,
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I'm not aware of it. And yet routinely the judges in the district of Columbia courts refuse to allow
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changes the venue. And so you've now got a heavily skewed partisan jury pool, heavily skewed partisan
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judges making decisions, uh, that by right ought not to be made by people with such a manifest bias.
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Uh, and yet that's the standard in DC, um, that we're, that we're observing. And it, it really is
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intolerable. You can hardly say this is a jury of his peers when 95% of the, of the jury pool is,
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you know, adamantly opposed to this, to this man as president. It is hyper-partisan and that
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justice is blind. It's supposed to be blind. And when you've got hyper-partisans making decisions
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like that, it's hard to make the case that justice has remained blind through this process. And that
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means we don't have a fair justice system. We, I think we clearly don't. I, I personally,
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I don't think I could get a fair trial because of my, my ideology, my partisanship, uh, and my
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advocacy. I don't think I could get a fair trial in any, uh, Democrat jurisdiction in the country.
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I don't think anyone else, uh, sitting in my position could either in, in, in Wisconsin. No,
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I'm sorry. In Michigan. And one of the, one of the cases that was argued before the Michigan Supreme
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court, one of the justices said from the bench during the oral argument, I'm not listening.
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You just want to keep your King in power. That was, that was an unbelievably unjudicious statement
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from the bench. And unless you were watching that hearing live, you wouldn't know about it,
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except for the courage of one of the dissenting justices who, who, who put in his dissenting
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opinion that that statement had been made. This is preposterous that we see judges doing that.
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Um, but, but, but we've, we've, it's no longer about justice and seeking the truth. It's like,
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it's like we've divided into two tribes. And if you have power and you're in charge of one of the
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institutions for one of the tribes, you, you know, anything goes to take, take out after the other
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tribe is the way they view this. That's not justice. And it's, and it's not our adversarial process,
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which is supposed to, um, be vetted to get, to give the truth. I'll give you another example.
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One of the cases in Michigan, thousand pages of sworn affidavits of illegality in the conduct
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of the election and people that had been told to not do signature verification and people who
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observed ballots being post dated that came in late. Uh, and then there was a counter affidavit
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by a government official in charge of things. He said, no, everything was fine. The judge in that case
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discounted, eliminated all of the evidence by sworn affidavits that I don't find give them credit
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because the government official said otherwise, no subject to cross examination, uh, no even hearing
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to assess the credibility. Uh, and, and, and, and yet the case was then dismissed because, you know,
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one government official said everything was hunky dory. Don't look behind the curtain here. Uh,
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this is, this is not, and, and, and one of the justices on the Michigan Supreme Court called it out,
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says you can't make a decision, uh, without a hearing judging credibility of witnesses. People have
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to be subject to cross examination. And what, you know, you would first ask the question, the, the,
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the, um, government official said, well, we did signature verification elsewhere. How about this
00:27:57.440
question? Well, where was it? Did you provide notice that it was going on as the law requires?
00:28:01.840
Were there observers there as the law requires? Did, did, did the clerks in that, in that supposed
00:28:07.120
other location put their initials on every ballot outside envelope that they had verified the signature
00:28:13.200
as the law requires? None of that happened, but because he wasn't subject to cross examination,
00:28:18.160
that no longer, that did not become part of the record. This is the kind of thing we were
00:28:21.920
dealing with in all of these cases. And people don't even realize, uh, going back to 2020. And
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I know we, uh, you know, I, I love the people who say, well, you can't re litigate 2020. Well,
00:28:32.320
we haven't litigated it. That's the whole problem. Uh, so we're not re litigating it, but I'd sure love to.
00:28:37.760
Uh, because I just on this one fact set, most of the jurisdictions in this country violated the
00:28:47.360
federal law. They did. They destroyed the election records and ballots and tabulations. I mean,
00:28:55.600
it's incredible what they did so that there couldn't be a quote unquote re litigation.
00:29:01.040
Well, in, in Mesa County, Colorado, the county clerk elected county clerk, uh, uh, was informed
00:29:08.720
by the secretary of state that all of the data on her election systems was going to be wiped
00:29:14.320
as a result of an update to the software that would have violated federal law. And that federal law
00:29:19.760
imposes on her an obligation to protect all election records for 22 months. So she made a mirror image
00:29:27.440
copy of the data before it got updated and destroyed. Uh, and then she had, because of that,
00:29:33.360
uh, uh, mirror image, she hired forensic analysts to take a look at it, to just make sure, uh, what was
00:29:40.080
there and whether in fact, anything untoward had gone on. Those forensic analysts discovered computer
00:29:45.920
code that had actually flipped votes for that effort to comply with federal law and making that mirror
00:29:52.480
image. She is being prosecuted with nine felony charges. Um, because you're not supposed to look
00:29:57.760
at, you know, when the government tells you, you know, uh, everything was fine, you're not supposed
00:30:02.560
to raise questions apparently. Uh, and those of us that are raising questions, uh, are, are having
00:30:08.640
the entire power of the federal or state governments thrown at us. Um, I I've got a legal defense fund.
00:30:14.560
Let me put it real quick because one of the, one of the advantages of my California bar trial
00:30:19.200
is we're putting on to the extent the court allows it. And that's a big, uh, but we're putting a lot
00:30:24.560
on a lot of the evidence that none of these other court cases, uh, looked at. Uh, and it is the first
00:30:30.640
time we've had an opportunity to do that in, in great detail. Uh, uh, give, send, go.com
00:30:38.000
slash Eastman is the legal defense fund site and people can donate there, send prayers there,
00:30:43.520
whatever my wife and I read them, they're heartwarming. Uh, and it will help us to continue to try and
00:30:48.000
expose the truth. Well, uh, and we encourage everybody to, to help in any way that you,
00:30:54.880
you can or wish. Uh, it's a, it's a critically important cause. And to that, to that end,
00:31:02.640
I want to read from judge Chunkin, one of her comments, uh, uh, to the, uh, to the court, uh,
00:31:10.640
uh, all of the parties there, she said, the, the defendant fails to acknowledge evidence presented
00:31:19.680
by the government, uh, that when the president, the former president publicly attacked individuals,
00:31:24.800
including on issues related to this case, these individuals received threats and harassment.
00:31:30.280
Whoa. Uh, the record isn't clear on that at all, as far as I'm concerned, but this is the beauty that
00:31:36.560
she unleashed that I think you'll find fascinating if you haven't studied it already, which I suspect
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you have the first amendment rights of participants in criminal proceedings must yield when necessary to
00:31:49.760
the orderly administration of justice. I have never heard that statement made by any one whatsoever,
00:31:56.960
uh, not in, uh, not in class, not in, uh, in my readings over a half century. And contrary to
00:32:05.240
the defendant's argument, the right to a fair trial is not his alone, but belongs also to the
00:32:12.200
government and the public, especially in the public, because they're going to be vitally
00:32:16.520
interested in all of this nonsense. Uh, that's, that that's a great interpretation of the fifth
00:32:21.800
amendments to process clause that I've never seen any, any court advance before. Uh, the right to a fair
00:32:28.040
trial is one of the rights that criminal defendants have, uh, the government that doesn't have such a
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right. They're the ones that have prosecutorial discretion to decide whether to bring charges or
00:32:37.560
not. And it ought to be exercised, uh, not going after persons. Look, what we've done here is like
00:32:43.720
what Lavrenti Barea did in the Soviet Union. Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. And that's
00:32:49.400
what they're doing. They're targeting their political opponents because they don't like them.
00:32:52.920
And they don't like them. And, uh, to me, the fact that a judge would even say that, uh, impromptu,
00:33:02.280
ad hoc, however you want to say it, just the spur of the moment. Uh, no, she had thought that out.
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She had organized that thought. And the idea that she doesn't comprehend that the government
00:33:16.760
under our constitution has that responsibility to provide a fair trial to the defendant. Uh,
00:33:24.760
it shows you the perversity of what is happening in our federal court system. And she is a, uh,
00:33:30.840
blinding, uh, leading example of that. We're talking with John Eastman. We're going to continue this,
00:33:36.840
uh, conversation about, uh, a corrupt judiciary, a corrupt, uh, set of prosecutors in the department of
00:33:45.160
justice, a corrupt administration. And the more I think about it, the whole federal government
00:33:52.760
is rampant with corruption. We'll be right back with John Eastman.
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We're back with John Eastman, attorney extraordinaire, former, uh, advisor and counsel and
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attorney for the president of the United States and former president of the United States.
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John, I look at what's happening right now and I fear that there isn't, uh, a fair fight of any kind
00:34:23.560
available, uh, to conservatives, to patriots, uh, and that the battle is basically lost. And I don't
00:34:30.440
mean that in a pessimistic or, uh, negative way. I'm talking about, I'm just laying out the parameters
00:34:37.000
of what I see as a great battle and a fight worth having. If ever there were one, the, the left controls
00:34:44.040
the judiciary, the left controls prosecutors. And I'm talking about in Washington, DC, the left
00:34:51.000
controls media, the left controls the Marxist party. Uh, they are obviously moving toward
00:35:00.120
domination in our society, a unilateral denomination that any other country would be called authoritarian,
00:35:06.360
totalitarian, uh, uh, and outright, uh, communist Marxism. Uh, give me your thoughts about what we
00:35:16.520
do to, and whether we can restore any semblance of what a constitutional Republic, uh, should be.
00:35:25.000
Well, a couple of things that are, uh, going on that, um, give me a sliver of hope and optimism.
00:35:32.040
Um, one, these cases have not yet reached the Supreme Court and one hopes that the Supreme Court
00:35:39.000
of the United States will weigh in, in a, in a very prominent and, uh, vocal and definitive way
00:35:47.400
and put a stop to these abuses of our legal system. They haven't done so yet, but the cases take a while
00:35:53.880
to get there. So that's, that's, that's one thing. Second thing, elections do matter. Uh, that's why
00:36:01.000
the, the theft of the 2020 election was so significant. I, I gave a speech on Saturday night, um, where
00:36:06.840
several of the speakers before me were addressing what's been going on in Israel since October 7th,
00:36:12.280
a day that will live on in infamy every bit as much as, um, December 7th, 1941 or, or September 11th,
00:36:20.360
2001. Um, and, and I tied my predicament to that by saying this would not have happened if Trump had
00:36:31.000
been inaugurated on, uh, January 20th, 2021. Um, and, and, and so weakness on our side has emboldened
00:36:40.760
evil actors around the world. Um, and I think people are waking up to that now and, uh, engaging
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in the election in 2024 in ways that we've not seen before at the retail level, at the local level,
00:36:55.320
checking the voter rolls at their precincts. And if they see 28 people voting from a single
00:36:59.480
efficiency apartment, calling it to the officials attention to prevent that fraud from going on.
00:37:04.680
And the, and the third thing I've seen, not, you know, there are way too many, uh, young people,
00:37:11.640
uh, who are buying into the propaganda of our regime, but there are a significant enough,
00:37:18.520
enough young people that are seeing what's going on and demonstrating courage to fight back. I'll
00:37:24.120
give you one example. One of my brand new clients is this fellow named Jaden Rodriguez,
00:37:29.400
in Colorado Springs, Colorado. You may not know the name, but you know, his action. He's the kid
00:37:35.160
with the Gadsden flag patch on his backpack that was kicked out of school because the teacher accused
00:37:40.600
him of wearing a symbol of slavery. What utter nonsense. Well, he stood up and he's pushing back.
00:37:46.760
This is a 12 year old that has more courage than most of our elected officials do. Um, but it's that
00:37:52.760
kind of courage that is contagious and that I hope, uh, will engender a new generation of Americans
00:37:58.920
to fight for their Liberty, just like our forefathers did. Well, God bless you for representing
00:38:04.520
him and carrying on that, uh, that battle. Uh, and God bless him for, as you say, having the courage to
00:38:11.160
take it on, uh, because a lot of people and particularly young people are not, not given
00:38:18.680
to, to bucking the crowd to, uh, uh, stepping up and being self-reliant and independent in their
00:38:25.480
judgments. And I think it's critically important that that happened. Uh, let me, let me offer you
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a couple of examples that I think are perhaps are countervailing influences against, uh, uh, your
00:38:37.880
optimism, but when we look at 7,000 people shouting, basically, uh, death to Israel, uh, pro-Palestinian
00:38:48.760
marchers, they're anti-Semitic. Every one of them, they're, uh, every one of them, in my opinion,
00:38:53.400
uh, is, uh, supporting, uh, gang rape, the beheading of babies, the massacre on October 7th,
00:39:01.960
1400 Israelis killed, uh, men, women, children, babies. Uh, and this is not, this is to me so
00:39:11.160
repugnant that no person, no person should not be absolutely, uh, repulsed by this. Uh, and here
00:39:19.000
they are saying, uh, how much they want to support Palestine, uh, the Palestinians and, uh, Hamas.
00:39:27.240
The ignorance is palpable. It's in your face and it's happening on campuses all over the country.
00:39:33.320
And I don't see students saying at Yale, Harvard, University of Michigan, wherever it may be,
00:39:41.160
Wisconsin, get out of my face and get out of my way, because this is where freedom of speech
00:39:47.800
is going to be exercised and, and, and, and advocate for what this country stands for.
00:39:54.120
These people are ruinous to our society. Well, they are. And, you know, it just demonstrates
00:39:59.480
the power of pure propaganda that we've had, uh, going under the guise of education in our nation's
00:40:06.840
highest, uh, institutions of learning for decades. And it has a profound effect, but there are people
00:40:12.520
pushing back against it. And there are major donors to the universities that are waking up and said,
00:40:18.040
we're not going to fund this crap anymore. Um, there are new institutions being established as we speak to,
00:40:23.960
to provide a counterbalance to that and ultimately, um, uh, you know, shift things back, uh, to
00:40:31.080
defense of the shared values of Western civilization. Um, but it, it, you know, we've,
00:40:36.040
we've sat on the sidelines as a people for a century while this stuff crept in, uh, and over the last
00:40:42.280
decade, it's, it's crept in at exponential rates. And I, it, it's hard to see anybody that can't, uh,
00:40:49.080
uh, understand the moment of moral clarity that we are in that the attacks on October 7th provided.
00:40:56.760
And, uh, and, and, you know, the, this is, these are, this is not a nuanced thing. There is not,
00:41:03.160
there, there is pure evil going on. And anybody that is not willing to stand up to that and speak
00:41:08.680
out against it has taken a side in favor of evil. That, that moment of, of unbelievable moral
00:41:15.000
clarity has got to have an impact, uh, both in the short term and the long term. In my view,
00:41:20.840
I couldn't agree with you more. This is evil. And, uh, those who are
00:41:27.000
demonstrating and whether it's taking over the Brooklyn bridge, uh, as thousands did, uh, whether
00:41:33.400
it is the demonstrations and protests, uh, and the affirmation of the ignorance and the bigotry
00:41:40.360
of a professor on the part of the students, uh, uh, at, uh, at Stanford, uh, say they want to support
00:41:47.640
this, uh, anti-Semitic professor, the, and the moral equivalency that they draw between Hamas, uh, and,
00:41:56.840
and Israel, uh, the, the Palestinian forces and Israel is mind boggling because of the lack of just
00:42:04.680
simple judgment and reason, uh, and logic, uh, moral clarity is, is a, a far reach for them.
00:42:13.560
They can't even reach to, uh, any kind of acuity, uh, mentally. Uh, I, I worry for the country on that
00:42:21.080
basis. I worry about that weakness that you a moment ago mentioned, and you were talking about the
00:42:26.040
weakness of the United States in being able to defend because of the impairment, the, the, uh,
00:42:32.760
the corruption of this current president. Uh, but the weakness in the Republican party concerns me
00:42:39.240
every bit as much because they have been cowards. They have been, uh, laggards. Uh, they've been
00:42:45.880
indolent. Uh, they are on without imagination, apparently, uh, because they are not reacting boldly
00:42:55.080
and swiftly to be a significant limiting countervailing force to the evil that have,
00:43:02.840
that is the Marxist Dems who've taken over the democratic party and our federal government.
00:43:08.120
Oh, I, I, I think you're right. And look, you know, you go back 15 years now to the beginning
00:43:13.640
of what I call the make America greater movement before it was called that the tea party movement,
00:43:17.640
a populist uprising against unconstitutional spending, you know, our grandkids into slavery
00:43:24.360
is what's going on. And, and the Republican leadership at the time and continuing, uh,
00:43:30.360
until recently, one hopes that the new change in leadership, um, will, will be a portent of good
00:43:35.320
things to come, but they, they view the tea party movement as an enemy, uh, to their, to their
00:43:40.920
sinecures, to their comfortable positions in Washington. And they had to, they had to move to destroy
00:43:46.120
it. And of course that mentality has carried over, uh, to Trump and the movement that he
00:43:52.200
inherited. Uh, he didn't create the MAGA movement. He, he saw what was going on and he, he got out
00:43:58.040
front of it, uh, because he understood that this was, this was the battle for our time. And these are
00:44:03.880
the times that people with courage were made for. Uh, and that's why they have to go after him as hard
00:44:09.560
as they have, because, because they think if they can decapitate the head of the snake, that they will
00:44:15.080
destroy the movement. They do not understand the movement or the resilience of the American people
00:44:19.880
devoted to liberty and freedom. Uh, if that's what they truly think, but, but, you know, that's why
00:44:24.600
they have to go after Trump as hard as they can. And then anybody that supports him, uh, and, uh,
00:44:29.400
you know, when Trump says, it's not about me, it's about you all that they're going after. He's right.
00:44:34.360
Um, because they would like to shut us all down and make us all into nice little sheep who
00:44:39.160
just do whatever the government says. Absolutely. Uh, let's conclude with this question and I can't
00:44:46.840
wait for your answer. Uh, you've basically put it before the Supreme court to solve this issue
00:44:52.520
across the state, uh, and local, uh, jurisdictions, uh, in our court system, uh, and the federal courts
00:45:03.000
as well. What do you think the odds are that these nine justices have the guts, uh, and the energy
00:45:13.240
to actually stand up and the chief justice Roberts with that responsibility, uh, period, uh, he has been
00:45:22.520
quiescent throughout. Uh, what do you think the odds are that he will stand up and say enough,
00:45:29.240
the persecution of Donald Trump is at an end? Yeah, I don't know the answer to that, Lou. Uh,
00:45:34.840
I can only hope that they will faithfully apply the law and put an end to this nonsense. Um, but
00:45:40.600
look, I think it's, I don't think it's an accident that several of the justices that are kind of viewed
00:45:46.200
as more in the middle of the ideological range on the court, um, are, are being protested or having
00:45:53.240
assassination attempts or getting death threats on a regular basis. Uh, uh, that has to have an impact
00:46:00.440
on, uh, human being, any human being of normal sensibilities. And I, and I don't think it's an
00:46:06.120
accident that that is going on. Um, one hopes that their life tenure, their, uh, insulation from those
00:46:14.120
kinds of things that our constitution has created, uh, will, uh, and, and, and enable them to withstand
00:46:21.080
those kinds of pressures to, uh, and therefore continue to do what's right or, or step up and
00:46:26.520
do what's right. That, but that's, that's a hope. And I, I can't make a prediction about that.
00:46:31.320
Well, John Eastman, I can make a prediction. Uh, I predict that, uh, you will prevail and, uh,
00:46:37.560
the, the nation, uh, requires it, uh, this moment in our history requires it. We thank you so much for
00:46:44.760
being with us. Thank you, Lou, for having me on. I appreciate it. John Eastman, a great American,
00:46:49.560
one of the many victims of this corrupt judicial system and the Marxist Dems who run the Department
00:46:55.400
of Justice. And by the way, who have corrupted our entire legal system. Thanks everybody for
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being here today. Our guest tomorrow on the great America show, Congresswoman Nancy Mace.
00:47:06.840
Please join us for that tomorrow. Join us each and every day. Thank you everybody. God bless you.