McCULLOUGH SAYS CHINA’S “MYSTERY FLU” IS NO MYSTERY
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Some of the world s most powerful globalist elites gathered this week in New York City for the New York Times DealBook Summit. Some of their guests included Disney s Bob Iger, JP Morgan Chase s Jamie Dimon, and of course the world's second or third richest man in the world, Elon Musk.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.
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Some of the world's most powerful globalist elites this week in New York City for the New
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York Times Deal Book Summit. High-profile guests included Disney's Bob Iger, JPMorgan Chase's
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Jamie Dimon, Warner Brothers' David Zaslav, and of course, the world's second or third richest
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man in the world, maybe the first, Elon Musk. Jamie Dimon of late, by the way, seems just more than a
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bit off, which is never a good thing when you run the country's largest bank. Dimon leaning into his
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biggest market outside the United States. That's China. A fave, an absolute fave with Dimon. Listen to
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Dimon defending his business in China and boosting the Chinese communists.
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I'm not afraid of China. Okay, we have all the food-worn energy. We have the Atlantic and the
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Pacific. We have not pissed off our neighbors. We've got a great relationship with Mexico and
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Canada. You know, they have a very complex neighborhood. They've done a pretty good job
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angering all the people around them. Okay, and that's, we're all remilitarizing Japan, the Koreas,
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Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India. And whatever you think about
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Russia, they're not great friends. You know, like a mere 30 or 40 years ago, there were armies on both
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sides between Russia and China. So, and they have to import 10 million barrels of oil a day. They've
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got terrible demographics. So I'm not afraid of China. I think we should engage exactly the way
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the administration is doing it today. And I think it's good for an American bank to be there to help
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America, you know, multinationals around the world and China with their own development, if it makes
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sense. If for some reason the American government says, nope, can't do that anymore, then so be it.
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Diamond with a red flag there saying it's good for us to do business with China. Sure it is. It's great
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business. Look at the trade deficit, for example. That'll tell you how good it is. And then there's
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the second red flag. Diamond saying we should continue to follow and to engage with China the
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way the Biden administration has been doing. Diamond, therefore, is aligned not only with the
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puppet President Biden, but also with the puppet President's masters, the communist Chinese. Now,
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isn't that cozy? And as if Diamond's calculus on U.S. national security isn't embarrassing enough,
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take a listen to who Diamond has endorsed for president. What do you think of the two leading
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candidates right now? Oh, God. I'm not going to tell you. You're not going to tell me. I did come
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out and make a nice statement about Nikki Haley. You did. You've been talking to Nikki Haley. Yes,
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I have. Even if you're a very liberal Democrat, I urge you, you know, help Nikki Haley, too. You know,
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get a choice on a Republican side that might be better than Trump. And is that your you,
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that it's anything but Trump? I would never say that, you know, because he might be the president.
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I have to deal with that, too. And, you know, but, but, but when he was the president, you said
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critical things about him. Yeah, I don't mind criticizing the president. Yeah. Not good. Haley
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is now on record as thrilled, of course, with the corporatist elites who are demanding more illegal
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immigration. She thinks that's just boffo. But also, Foursquare, she's backed by Charles Koch's
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political network. She couldn't be more elitist, more establishment if she tried. She is an oligarch's
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first candidate. And the donor class thinks she has a chance. But no way. I mean, first of all,
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they thought DeSantis had a chance. And then, well, you see the picture. Elon Musk on the stage
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for an interview. And boy, did he wake these establishment folks up, calling out the worst
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kind of people and at times even calling out some of the elites in attendance in person.
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At one point, Musk was asked about advertisers leaving Twitter at an alarming rate. And this
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is what Elon Musk had to say to those leaving X.
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Obviously, you know that there's a public perception that, and you're clarifying this now,
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but there's a public perception that that was part of a apology tour, if you will, that this had been
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said online. There was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving. We talked to Bob Iger
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Don't advertise. You don't want them to advertise? No.
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What do you mean? If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with
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money, go f*** yourself. But go f*** yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob, share in the audience.
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At the end there, you hear Musk say, hey, Bob, calling out Disney CEO Bob Iger for pulling his
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advertising from Twitter, better known as X. Musk made it clear he doesn't care about the money. He
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cares about changing the world, changing the world for the better. And of course, Musk has no interest
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in the green crowd when he's doing more for the environment than anyone on the planet.
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The approach to some of the stuff you're doing with AI has been very specific, right? There's
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not a let the chips fall where they may approach to those businesses, I don't think. No, we focus on
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making the best products. And Tesla's gotten to where it's gotten with no advertising at all.
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I understand that. Tesla currently sells to twice as much in terms of electric vehicles as the rest of
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electric car makers in the United States combined. Tesla has done more to help the environment than
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all other companies combined. It would be fair to say that, therefore, as a leader of the company, I've done
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more for the environment than everyone else and any single human on Earth. How do you feel about
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that? How do I feel about that? Yeah, no, I'm asking you personally how you feel about that,
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because this goes, we're talking about power and influence. And I'm saying I'm saying what I care
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about is the reality of goodness, not the perception of it. And what I see all over the place is people
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who care about looking good while doing evil. F*** them. Okay? I don't think Musk could have said it
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more eloquently. Our guest today is a man who's been fighting the medical industry orthodoxy for the
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past three years. He fought back against the China pandemic, against big pharma, the virus vaccines,
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and went to war with the medical establishment and medical elites, and his preference for treatment
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rather than vaccines. Joining us now is Dr. Peter McCullough. He's a world-renowned physician and
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author. He's the first doctor to sound the alarm on the government overreachers of COVID. He's also
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the host of the McCullough Report podcast. And Dr. McCullough, as always, great to have you back with
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us here on The Great America Show. Suddenly, we're hearing about a new disease, a mystery disease,
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a discussion about China and what appears to be an epidemic there. More denials,
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of course, by the Chinese public health authorities. And we have no real comments of substance coming
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from either the White House or the CDC about that so-called mystery disease that's overwhelming
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hospitals and clinics in China right now. You're right. The U.S. public health agencies have been
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silent. They haven't informed us at all. The WHO says that it's inquiring of the Chinese. Now,
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I was fortunate to get firsthand report from Dr. Michelle Schechter in Brazil who received a
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patient back from China who had this Chinese pneumonia. It turns out that this pneumonia is
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a form of a macrolide-resistant mycoplasma pneumonia. So this is an established organism
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that does cause pneumonia mainly in children. It's a very small bacteria. It gets inside human cells.
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And the unique aspect to this is that it's not responsive to azithromycin is what we usually
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use, but it's exquisitely sensitive to using quinolones, various forms of cifrofloxacin and
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related drugs, as well as tetracyclines like doxycycline. So her case cleared up very quickly
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on a quinolone. So this is very different than COVID-19. This will be easily treated. I thought it is
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interesting that the Chinese only tested her patient for influenza and COVID. They actually
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didn't have the type of test we have in the United States that could identify the organism within about
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20 minutes with a standard multiplex panel. That's interesting, too, because it became,
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of course, then a mystery disease. Last week, we were at what? I guess the sixth day, seventh day,
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perhaps, of being aware of awareness of this epidemic there. So why are we not hearing,
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in your best judgment, from the public health agencies? And why have we heard some stirrings
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about, oh, yes, here comes a disease that's even worse than COVID-19 or the Wuhan flu?
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It almost seems like it's intentional, fear-mongering flu. Our agencies should get well
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ahead of this. There's over 150 peer-reviewed publications on this illness. The Koreans and
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Chinese have been reporting on it for the last several years. There's an outbreak in the Netherlands.
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It'll be the same. And if doctors and hospitals were adequately briefed on this, we could be ready
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with the right antibiotics and snuff this out right away. So in this case, it's another failing of our
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public health system. Another failing of the public health system. And it is, to me,
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more than passing strange that we learn also, just about now, that YouTube and the White House were
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working to censor dissenting views, differentiated scientific views, if you will. And the House
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Judiciary Committee just learning this, it looks like this has been a full-on, we knew it was bad,
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but it's a full-on propaganda, misinformation, disinformation campaign by our own government
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against the American people. Indeed, it was a worldwide campaign to mislead the entire world on
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this. The targeted areas of suppression was early treatment for COVID-19, all the various forms of
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early treatment from nasal sprays and gargles down to the high-tech monoclonal antibodies.
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They were all suppressed. We know that information on natural immunity was suppressed by YouTube.
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You know, there's a paper written in Medical Internet Research suggesting that YouTube was 94%
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successful in suppressing any hope on treatment and just promoting this government narrative of
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You know, if it were not for you and a handful of other doctors who had the courage to speak out
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and to talk straight about what was happening, I don't know what actually would have been the result.
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We are fortunate to have had your courage and your great knowledge as a physician.
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But to think that we are reliant upon individual citizen warriors to stand up for truth is,
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I'm concerned about it. I don't know if we have more or if we have fewer right now
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than we were fortunate enough to have during the pandemic.
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My colleagues in major academic medical centers all feel inhibited, like they can't speak their
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mind. They can't, you know, perform independent research. You know, there was no new treatment
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protocols that came from Harvard or Mayo Clinic or Emory, any of our blue ribbon institutions.
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They were completely silent on COVID. You know, none of these institutions claim to be a center of
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excellence for treatment of COVID or now complications after the vaccines. It's really
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astonishing that the American medical bravado was completely absent during COVID-19. Everybody
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wants to be the best in cancer or heart disease, but where's hospitals that say they're best in having
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Americans survive COVID? We're largely through the pandemic, and this is going to be looking
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backwards, but I think we need to do a postmortem on the failure of the American medical system.
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Yeah, you would think that that would be an insistent reflex on the part of the establishment
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itself. Where we are with the CDC, it seems to me, is very unusual, even by the standards that we grew
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accustomed to in the pandemic. They're now trying to push, and the White House seemingly, to push
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responsibility for Americans' public health away from the CDC, the NIH, they're trying to, it seems,
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engage the World Health Organization as some sort of supra government agency for not only the United
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States, but indeed Europe and the world. That's exactly what the WHO wants with its pandemic treaty
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alliance and international health regulations. They actually want to be in a power and control
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position, and through the WHO power and network, then influence the CDC and all the other public
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health agencies. Remember, the WHO is not elected. It's largely funded by the CCP and the Gates
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Foundation, and the WHO doesn't help us medically in our practice whatsoever. Recently, now New Zealand,
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Slovakia, the Philippines, many countries now are pulling out of the WHO. They're not going to go along
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with this pandemic treaty alliance. Yeah, it's, oh, that's encouraging to hear. And why we would not,
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our, give us your best read as to how, how superior is American medicine. Once it was the envy of the
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world, I worry that it might be something else now. You know, still to this day, American medicine,
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again, is such a, you know, such a blue ribbon aspect of our, our lives. It's high tech. We have
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the best training doctors from all over the world come here to train, not vice versa. An example is
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the Chinese didn't have the basic technology to diagnose mycoplasma pneumonia and give us an update.
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And we have it here. But what we're not seeing is we're not seeing promotion of independent thinking
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of research that, that clearly is independent of the influences of big pharmaceutical or vaccine
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companies. And Americans have really lost their trust of the healthcare system through the pandemic.
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I think shutting down Lou was a giant disaster. We never should have done it. Our doors should have
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been open and we should have been helping Americans through the pandemic. Instead,
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they felt as if they were abandoned. I want to take that up with you right after these
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quick words. And we'll be back. We're talking with Dr. Peter McCullough. We're going to talk more
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about preparedness for what it seems the Biden administration is intent upon fear mongering
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just as soon as they can determine what will be most serviceable to them in that regard. This time,
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apparently, a fizzle from China. We'll talk further with Dr. McCullough. Stay with us.
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We're back now with Peter McCullough. We're, by the way, the host of the McCullough Report.
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And we're delighted to have you with us. We encourage you to follow his podcast and him,
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as we do we. Let's turn to what we're seeing now is the idea of a mystery pneumonia that was starting
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to percolate up as something that the administration could really get its hands on. You could just see
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it. And now it's sort of gone poof, hasn't it? It's true. This mysterious Chinese pneumonia now found
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out to be macrolide resistant, mycoplasma pneumonia, easily treated with available antibiotics. But
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don't forget, we've already been through a false fear campaign with monkeypox. Biden administration
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and HHS Becerra declared national and public health emergencies, respectively, for monkeypox.
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That wasn't the case at all. It was a very limited outbreak to largely gay and bisexual men. It was
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easily handled with a drug called Ticovirumat. There's no reason to put the whole country on
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national alert for these types of diseases that we handle. Now we hear, Lou, about Disease X and
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Peter Daszak at the EcoHealth Alliance, who played a key role, it looks like, in the creation of SARS-CoV-2
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virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Peter Daszak in 2018 published on Disease X with great
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enthusiasm, saying that there'll be another disease, one after another, and that we must respond with
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mass vaccination over and over again. The mass vaccination, I haven't seen the latest
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numbers of vaccinations. I think the last one I saw was somewhere around 17 or 18% of the American
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population with the vaccine at this point. But we're also hearing these other reports for the UK,
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for example, that 94% of the deaths from COVID were from those who had been triple or quadruple
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vaccinated. What do you make of that report? It's true. You know, the randomized trials never
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showed a reduction in hospitalization and death. In fact, a critical analysis of the Pfizer program by
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Michaels and colleagues showed actually an excess risk of death with Pfizer, particularly cardiovascular death.
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So we knew the vaccines weren't going to save people from dying of COVID. But as they were deployed,
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we saw mass failure. There's a paper by Shretha and colleagues from Cleveland Clinic. With each
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successive vaccine, the workers are more likely to get sick with COVID-19. For some reason, it seems to
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knock down the immune system. We know the vaccines have been hopelessly behind on catching up with the
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various mutant strains. Now, two organizations, Lou, since we're really at the end of this, are calling for
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withdrawal of the vaccines. World Council for Health nationally and the Association of American
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Physicians and Surgeons here in the United States. And do you think that'll come to pass?
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It should. I've called on the floor of the U.S. Senate, as well as European Parliament, the Brazilian
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Chamber of Deputies. And then next week, I'll be in the lower house in the in the UK. There's calls
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all over the world to just retire these vaccines. I made a presentation yesterday at Old Parkland
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Campus in Dallas, Lou. I know the Texas numbers well. We've had 92,000 Texans who've died either with
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or, you know, with testing positive for COVID. Overall, in the pandemic, only 1513 were in 2023.
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So we're down to a very small number of people who would ever test positive. It's easily treatable.
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I think the vaccine should be retired so we don't have any more worries about new side effects and
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then move on. Are you are you surprised at the number of people who are deciding to resist any
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further vaccination? It seems to be entirely organic. It does not seem to be a campaign that resulted in
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any, you know, mass movement. But there does seem to be a rational rejection by the American public of what
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they're being bombarded with advertisements every day from Pfizer and from Moderna and others.
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It's true. People are doing their own research. Many have now had the virus, you know, two or three times.
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For them, it's mild, well tolerated. They just can't see a rationale for keep taking a shot
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every six months. If someone is following the government instructions, you know, Mandy Cohen,
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director of the CDC, if you're following exactly what she's telling us to do, people have had nine
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shots. Lou, we've never given nine shots for a vaccine before.
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Yeah, it's incredible. And we're also hearing reports from whistleblowers, the U.S. Navy,
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for its pilots, apparently at least one whistleblower, saying that they have seen more than doubling of
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myocarditis responses to the vaccine and significant cardiac disease.
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It's true. Our CDC and FDA warned us in June of 2021 that the COVID vaccines cause myocarditis or heart
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damage. Two prospective cohort studies, one by Mansoogian, the other one by Buren, show the rate
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is about 2.5 percent per shot. And that so it may seem like a small number, but it's not. It adds up.
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And so if there's heart damage, there's a risk of a cardiac arrest. That's the great concern in pilots
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and others who are, you know, their jobs actually influence the lives of others. The FDA and CDC never gave
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us any strategies, any risk mitigation strategies. Now we have a great concern. As a cardiologist,
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I'm seeing this on a daily basis. I want to ask you one question as we move toward concluding here.
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What is, is there a basic kit, if you will, of medicines, treatments that should be on hand in
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every household, just for the, the odd chance that we do have a serious, serious virus and pandemic?
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You know, the wellness company and I advise them as the chief scientific officers introduced
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an emergency medical kit, which is exactly what you describe. It's pretty broad based. It could,
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it could handle this new Chinese pneumonia. It can handle, you know, everything from a dog bite to
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anthrax. So it has a necessary pharmacopoeia, a guidebook, but also a telemedicine consult with
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a doctor on the other end of the line to help. I think everybody ought to be outfitted with one
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of these kits. It's one kit per adult. And then they have a specialized COVID kit that, you know,
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provides the right medicines, including the types of nebulizers that we would use to get people
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through COVID. These kits have been, I think, well-received. People do not want to get burned again,
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and they want to have everything at home, ready to go. If indeed what Bill Gates and Tedros and
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Peter Hotez and Fauci say, they say we're going to be hit with another pandemic. We better get ready.
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Indeed, we shall. We're going to take a quick break here, come back. And Peter McCullough,
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we're going to answer your concluding thoughts. And you just mentioned a couple of names whose names are,
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I think, now somewhat controversial. I'd just like to get your concluding thoughts on a few of those.
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We're back now. We're talking with Dr. Peter McCullough. And as we went to break there,
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you mentioned two names that I think are highlighted in history of the pandemic. And that,
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of course, Bill Gates and the WHO's Tedros, give us your assessment of where they are and
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how they fared, given at least the space of time now that we have to evaluate what they forecast,
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Both Gates and Tedros are not doctors. I think this is important to understand. But yet,
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they're out there in the public health space very visibly. Gates and actually the World Economic
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Forum formed CEPI, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation. That's an NGO. Again,
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we didn't elect them. Very well funded. The CEPI business plan says there'll be a series of
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pandemics. And for each one, there'll be one answer that is mass vaccination. There are so many
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bio labs out there that are unregulated that are working to develop more infectious and more lethal
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pathogens, as well as countermeasures, which are forms of therapeutics, monoclonal antibodies,
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and vaccines. We don't hear about missile systems and missile defense systems, but we hear about
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biological threats and countermeasures. This seems to be the new area that both research scientists,
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Hotly involved, we find in Fresno County, California, a bio lab with a connection, a direct
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connection to the CCP, but no investigation. And it's been almost a full year since that was
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discovered purely by accident, not by investigation. We now find out that Dr. Fauci was putting a
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bio lab for gain of function research in Montana without anyone's knowledge. Your reaction to
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those discoveries and the peculiar responses by our government.
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Americans should know that the National Institutes of Health has a ban on funding gain of function
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research from the government. That doesn't mean gain of function research is outlawed. It's not.
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In fact, it's done all over. I recently testified in the Arizona Senate, and an action item I gave
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them is they should do an inventory of all the gain of function research going on in their state.
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They ought to know about it. And I think, you know, a proactive step would be to shut it down.
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This isn't science for science sake. This is actually creating new organisms, bacteria, viruses,
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and fungi that can actually harm us. We've already been burned with COVID-19. If gain of function
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research continues on, there probably will be another breakdown in some lab and the world could
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get sick all over again. Well, doctor, it's always great talking with you and very, you know, both
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informative, helpful, and frankly, inspiring. We admire your courage and your insistence on speaking
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your scientific mind on scientific issues. We're going to, as we always do, give you the last word here
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on the Great America Show. You're concluding thoughts, if you would, today.
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Yeah, I think we're largely through the COVID-19 pandemic. People have returned to normal. I think
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we should be vigilant, though. People should do their own research, have their own form of personal
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protection and defenses at home. And I'm not talking about a mask. I'm talking about, you know,
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having some basic medicines on hand, having virucidal nasal washes and gargles. That's the first defense
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against anything we're going to inhale. And we have to understand that, you know, we cannot rely
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on the government or even the medical orthodoxy to save us in a time of crisis. We really should
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be looking for innovative leaders who are thinking outside the box. Sadly, those leaders were heavily
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suppressed on mainstream and social media. Thank you so much for having me on the show, Lou.
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Doctor, always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for being with us. God bless you.
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Thank you. Thanks to Peter McCullough. Thank you, everybody, for being with us today.
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Our guest tomorrow here on The Great America Show, the founder of the Article 3 Project, Mike Davis.
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And please join us for that tomorrow and each and every day on The Great America Show.
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And follow me on Twitter and true social at Lou Dobbs. Thank you, everybody. God bless you.