MERRICK GARLAND IS TO THE DOJ WHAT JOE BIDEN IS TO THE PRESIDENCY AND WHITE HOUSE, JUST A FIGUREHEAD BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO, SAYS JULIE KELLY
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Julie Kelly joins host Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to discuss the ongoing Stalinist Stalinist witch hunt against the thousands of political prisoners held without trial in the Democratic Party s Stalinist "Jan. 6th" Gulag.
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Hello everybody and welcome to the Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs and delighted to have you with
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us as we all fight to preserve truth, justice, and the American way. And as usual we have a lot
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to take up here. Let's start with another top secret document scandal, but this time not
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involving presidents or vice presidents or at least not as far as we know now, but as they say
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stay tuned. Here's what we do know about a hundred top secret documents, apparently all of them
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originating from the Pentagon, U.S. intel documents on everything from Ukrainian air defense emplacements
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to assessments of Russian and Chinese Mideast geopolitical policies. Or as the Biden regime
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often claims, it's just all Russian disinformation. Vice President Kamala Harris going to Nashville,
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Tennessee. They're to meet with Democrat lawmakers, two of whom are black and who were expelled from
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the GOP-led General Assembly because they led a demonstration on the assembly floor against gun
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rights. Tensions rising in Nashville and you just know with Obama also tweeting and Harris actually
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on the road, the Marxist Dems are planning something. The Biden regime has no plans to do anything about
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the J-6 defendants, still held prisoner in the D.C. Gulag. Some of them have been there as we know for
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more than two years and still no trial. Prosecuted by mad Marxists and the Merrick Garland DOJ
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and soon to be sentenced by corrupt D.C. district court judges who've managed to preside over almost 70
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convictions and only one exoneration in the Stalinist Jan 6 scandal, which will be a stain on the Marxist
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Dem party for all time. The plight of the hundreds of J-6 political prisoners, the heartless, vicious
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Marxist Dems prosecutors, judges, and jailers would never have had the public's attention without the
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superb reporting of journalist Julie Kelly. She's our guest here today. She's senior writer for
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AmericanGreatness.com. She authored the terrific book, January 6, How Democrats Use the Capitol
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Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right. Julie, delighted to have you back
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with us here on The Great America Show. Thanks for joining us. Overseeing the viciousness of the
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Marxist-left prosecution of these political prisoners held in the disgusting and often brutal conditions
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is none other than Attorney General Merrick Garland. Your thoughts, Julie? Well, look, Merrick Garland
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is to the Department of Justice what Joe Biden is to the presidency and the White House, just merely a
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figurehead being told what to do. I think the idea was to give the DOJ some sort of grandfatherly look,
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this wise old man who was supposed to be on the Supreme Court, a thoughtful, careful,
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objective, you know, lawman. But look, he's really none of those things. He never has a straight answer
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for anything. He constantly gets his facts wrong. I think he was just caught up either today or earlier
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this week when he was pressed about the threat tag that was applied to parents protesting at school
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boards. He never could get a straight answer or timeline about that. And then today he was asked
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by Representative Andrew Clyde directly about the incarceration, indefinite incarceration in lieu
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of American citizens who have been arrested and charged for their involvement in January 6th,
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some of whom have been in jail for over two years, denied bail at Merrick Garland's prosecutor's request
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as the same Department of Justice plays every trick in the book to delay those trials. When he was asked
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about how people can be in jail for more than two years without a trial, innocent men not convicted of
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anything, he had no idea what Andrew Clyde was talking about. And he spewed some nonsense about Sixth Amendment
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rights and their speedy trial rights. And if those rights are being denied, the defense attorneys have, you
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know, ways that they can speed the trial along or the clock anyway. And ultimately, it's up to the judge, which is
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of course true. But these are his prosecutors going to the court system repeatedly, at least a hundred
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times, Lou, seeking pretrial detention, even for nonviolent offenders. And Merrick Garland, once again,
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could not answer because he's not running the show. The people running the show are Deputy Attorney General
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Lisa Monaco, a longtime Obama loyalist, and Matthew Graves, who is the United States Attorney for the
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District of Columbia. That's the office handling every single January 6th case.
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Unbelievable. Garland is, you say, clueless. He is a figurehead. But he seems to me, Julie, frankly, to be far
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more than that. He seems unquestionably to be mendacious, banal. And he consciously, it appears to me,
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is lying. I can't imagine being unaware of those circumstances if he, unless he doesn't read the
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Washington Post or watch his favorite left-wing newscast. Can you?
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I actually can, honestly believe. I agree with you. I think he's a malicious man. I think he's a petty
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man, much like Joe Biden. I think he doesn't care about the rights of these defendants simply because
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they are American citizens who protested Joe Biden's election. But the fact that he was not
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prepped for this or had any kind of good answer and stumbled around Sixth Amendment mumbo-jumbo,
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you know, but honestly, Lou, Congress has let Merrick Garland get away with this for two years.
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As soon as the Department of Justice started taking pretrial detention, denying bail for even
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nonviolent offenders, they should have heard from Republicans in Congress denouncing this as cruel and
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unusual punishment, violating their Fourth Amendment, Sixth Amendment rights. You know, a lot of these
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dozens of them were held in this fetid, abusive D.C. gulag, held in solitary confinement conditions for
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months on end, and no one said anything except a handful of House members like Marjorie Taylor
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Green and Louie Gohmert and Paul Gosar. But otherwise, there was complete silence. And so,
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you know, there's plenty of blame to be placed. Merrick Garland is not one of them. It's Lisa
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Monaco and Matthew Graves, his prosecutors, and also every single judge on the D.C. District Court.
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Every single one, I believe, has signed off on pretrial detention orders, whether it's someone
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charged with conspiracy, obstruction of an efficient proceeding, assaulting police officers. Look,
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if you assaulted police officers who weren't assaulting you, by the way, which was happening
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at many different vantage points on January 6th, of course, we want the rule of law. We want law
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enforcement respected, and we want those people held accountable. But someone accused of pepper
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spraying a police officer does not warrant staying in jail for two-plus years as you're awaiting trial.
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What they're trying to do is torment these men into plea deals, which they're not taking.
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Then they're going back to the court. They're adding charges. They're adding defendants.
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They're saying they haven't fulfilled their discovery obligations, which is a whole other,
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you know, scandal in and of itself. But the Department of Justice runs the D.C. courthouse.
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Those judges are nothing more than a rubber stamp. So, of course, they're in cahoots to deny
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the due process rights of these American citizens simply because they protested Joe Biden's rigged
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There is nothing approaching speedy justice in this entire tragedy. And what I guess I'm asking you is,
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why have we not been able to come up with a solution? Why has not the Republican Party,
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veterans associations, whatever it takes, why in the hell haven't we been able to come up with some way
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to mitigate the awful, evil harm that has been done to hundreds of our fellow citizens by this
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warped, perverted, and sadistic group of judges and federal prosecutors?
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Yes. So, sadistic is the word I use a lot. After more than two years of covering the hearings,
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the initial hearings, whether they were just arraignments or pretrial detention hearings,
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then morphing into plea hearings and now trials, I can tell you these prosecutors and judges,
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they are really gratified by inflicting pain on these people. They think that they are better
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than these people. They consider them really deplorables. You know, I've listened to the chief
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judge say to one man, you drove here all the way from Texas. They consider Washington, D.C.,
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not the nation's capital, a city that belongs to all Americans. It is their personal, professional,
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and political fiefdom. And how dare Trump supporters leave their backwater farms, you know,
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from Indiana or wherever and come into the vaunted, you know, sanctuary of Washington, D.C.
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This is how they've addressed and handled these cases. But let's talk for a minute about Matthew
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Graves. He's a Biden campaign advisor appointed by Joe Biden to head, arguably, the most powerful U.S.
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attorney's office in the country. There's a Washington Post article out this week blasting Graves
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for having by far the highest prosecutorial declination rate, meaning declining to prosecute
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criminals in Washington, D.C. It's, I think, three times as high as Cook County, Illinois. So he's being
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blasted for letting criminals on the loose. Well, of course he is because his office is too busy
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prosecuting, you know, 60-year-old women from Washington or Indiana or Virginia, which they just
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are charging this week, for walking into the Capitol building for 15 minutes, 26-plus months ago,
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committing no violent crime. The overwhelming majority, Lou, of these people have no criminal
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record. They didn't even know they were committing a crime. And yet their lives are being destroyed at
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the hands of Matthew Graves, who at the same time is letting the nation's Capitol descend into violence,
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lawlessness, mayhem. Look at what happened to a top staffer for Rand Paul over the weekend.
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He's walking out of a restaurant at 530 in the evening in a nice area of town and is stabbed in the
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head by a criminal, longtime criminal who had just been released from prison. I mean, he had life
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threatening injuries, the Washington Post reported. So you have these truly violent, true domestic
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terrorists, Lou, on the loose in our nation's Capitol, while Matthew Graves and Lisa Monaco
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brand anyone involved in January 6th as a domestic terrorist. I mean, this is the sort of double,
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it's not even double standard. It's just sheer dystopian, something that's never occurred in
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American history. And yes, Republicans were far too late in saying anything.
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We're talking with Julie Kelly, senior writer for American Greatness. Please stay with us. We'll be
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right back after a quick message from our sponsors. Welcome back. We're talking with Julie Kelly,
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senior writer for American Greatness. You use the word dystopian. I think it's a perfectly
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good description of what has happened to our federal government because it is corruption is
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pervasive, not just the Justice Department, not just the FBI, our court system, our prosecutors.
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The ugliness has spilled across the federal court system, into the post office, to the IRS,
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the U.S., you name it. Almost every agency is blighted with corruption and much of it Marxist-inspired.
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And that's not hyperbole in any way, folks, as you know. That is what is going on here as this
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Democrat party tries to destroy what is fundamentally America. Your reaction, Julie, to it all?
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I mean, I think the left, to your point, they are Marxist. Call them communists, I think,
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or socialists certainly is too kind of a word. I mean, this is how a authoritarian Marxist regime
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exercises its power in the cruelest way possible, while the other side towers in fear and, you know,
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they throw little darts here and there that they know aren't going to stick because they don't have
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the courage to do what needs to be done. I mean, look, Lou, we're here, you know,
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almost three months after Republicans have been sworn into power. I haven't heard one hearing about
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January 6th having any of these defendants or their family members come before the American people
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explain what the Department of Justice and FBI have done to them, to their families, to their
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businesses and their communities. None of that has been happening. And so, you know, as I said,
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everyone has a little bit to blame, but the left is being fully exposed for what it is. And I think a
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lot, a large swath of the American public is waking up to this as well. When you have a poll that came
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out of Rasmussen earlier this month, 61% of Americans think that federal assets provoked the events of
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January 6th. And also now realizing the degree of cover-up of January 6th, whether it's hidden
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surveillance videos, numerous FBI informants. Now we have video of undercover Washington, D.C. police
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officers chanting with the crowd pushing people towards the building. These are just some of the
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things that make Americans scratch their heads and go, wait a second. You know, maybe what we thought we
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saw on January 6th wasn't actually the truth. Now, Democrats will never believe that because
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they're sheep and they're programmed to believe and regurgitate whatever they're told. But other
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critical-thinking Americans, fair-thinking Americans, are waking up to the fact that this was probably
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one of, if not the greatest scandals in American history, an attempt to not just permanently
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overthrow Donald Trump and make sure he never returns to office, but drive a fatal stake in the
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heart of the MAGA movement, to that degree, they have not been successful. So that's why you see
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Matthew Graves threatening to round up another thousand-plus Americans related to January 6th.
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Matthew Graves, Monaco, I mean, you look at this list of characters that is
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embedded in Washington, D.C. This is the Obama administration, the third term, isn't it?
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Um, gee, if only. I mean, I, you know, you look back at the Obama years, I mean, certainly they
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weaponized agencies, the IRS and EPA, against their political foes. But I can't imagine Obama even
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getting away with all of this. January 6th has such a taint to it. It was so poisonous for any
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Republican early on to touch and to say anything but it was an insurrection. It was a riot. You know,
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Kevin McCarthy went to the floor and said that Donald Trump was responsible for this.
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was the big lie that was established first and put and repeated endlessly in the national
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corporatist media. And we all have to acknowledge who they are. These are corporations,
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billion-dollar corporations that once were U.S. multinationals. Now they're global
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multinationals. And their allegiance isn't to anything American. You can't rationalize who the
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owners of all this media is. 95% of it is left-wing. And corporations now, they have adopted Marxist
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philosophies through their HR departments, through their leadership, whether it's, you know, whoever
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it's, you know, Larry Fink or whomever on Wall Street pushing ESG and all of this nonsense.
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We are being overwhelmed in this country with the madness of Marxism. And there is just,
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there's no, and we just don't even acknowledge it in our own discussion sometimes. And when I say
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our own, I'm talking about those of us who are patriotic, who are conservative, who are independent,
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Yes, absolutely. I mean, the betrayal is on many levels here. But look, I will say getting back to
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what we can consider some encouraging news is that I think the January 6th narrative is unraveling very
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quickly. And you could see the panic in the media, especially after Tucker Carlson played some of those
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clips that very clearly debunked compelling narratives about that day. You see the presence,
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the bombshell revelations about FBI informants coming out in the Proud Boys Seditious Conspiracy
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Trial. You see, I mean, one thing that blew me away, Lou, is the song at the January 6th choir.
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You know, the men who were incarcerated in the DC Gulag, I reported on this in the spring of 2021,
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they called me at home, and I recorded it, singing the national anthem every night at nine o'clock. So
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they recorded that with an overlay of Donald Trump doing the Pledge of Allegiance. It sprung up to number
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one on Spotify, then on Billboard, taking out, you know, artists like Morgan Wallen and Taylor Swift.
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So and you see him making this sort of a campaign issue. He talks about it during his rally over the
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weekend. So Republicans are going to come kicking and screaming to to confront the the horrors of
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January 6th, the lies and the falsehoods about it and everyone who's been involved in manufacturing that
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because this is such a big issue, I think, for the base.
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Now, I have to confess, I haven't seen Tucker Carlson's show in some time, a couple of weeks,
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at least. I saw the the initial video. Has there been any since then?
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There's not been more video released. I don't know if Tucker's team has more clips that they're kind of
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holding on to. I think the good thing about the clips that were initially aired is that, you know,
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you can't just show the clip, right? You have to tell the story with it. So telling me that the entire
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travesty of what happened to Jacob Chansley, not just that he was lured around this building,
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but that he spent 300 plus days in solitary confinement until the DOJ tormented a plea deal
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out of him on a nonviolent felony obstruction of an official proceeding and then sentenced to 41 months
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in jail. I mean, that's the you know, that all came into context. So I don't know if his team has
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more. But I do know that Congress House members are looking at that video. And there is actually
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a court filing the press coalition, which is a major consortium of the biggest news corporations
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in the country, have now asked a federal judge finally to take the protective order off all the
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surveillance video so the media can see it for themselves. And that's pending before Judge Rudy
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Contreras right now. And he might rule on that soon. That will be another game changer.
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Well, Rudy Contreras, you might remember, was the judge who signed off on Mike Flynn's plea deal
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and then recused himself because text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page revealed that
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he was friends, either friends or neighbors, with Lisa Page. So he recused himself from the Flynn case.
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He also sat on the FISA court. He did not sign any of the FISA warrants against Carter Page, but he was
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on the FISA court. So, you know, he hasn't managed a lot of big cases, but he's got a pretty significant
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one before him right now, a man named William Pope, who is defending himself. And he's actually making some
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really good headway against the government right now. And that's why the press coalition
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joined his case to basically say, okay, the time's up. It's been over two years.
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You know, and he has to beg for that. I mean, this is madness that we consider that, frankly,
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some sort of progress. This is an outrage. Two years in the making, these people caught up as
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political prisoners of a party that once called itself democratic. Then they try to play like
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they're progressives. They're nothing more than authoritarian, totalitarian, Marxist.
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And they're loving this. They're absolutely loving it. Chuck Schumer is in his heyday and with him
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now in something of her leisure, Nancy Pelosi. We are watching the vilest display
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of indifference to the lives and the families of American citizens. I could never have imagined this
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in America, Julie, ever. And no one is doing a thing. Is there any, and I know you've got to feel,
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you've got to be, you've got to be more frustrated than I am. But for us to be helpless in the face of
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wanton totalitarianism and Marxism on display without apology, without shame, I don't understand
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I will say, I think I was more disheartened two years ago when I started covering this and
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nothing was happening than I am, quite frankly, now. Because I think that people like Matthew
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Graves, I think his name is becoming, you know, more public. I think we see that Merrick Garland
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is not capable, that there are people behind the scenes that are doing this.
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This is The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs. Please stay with us through these quick messages
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from our sponsors. We'll be right back. Welcome back to The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs.
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We're talking with Julie Kelly, senior writer for American Greatness.
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A left-wing jury sitting in the occupied territory of Washington, D.C. We have a 90,
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what is it, 97% Democratic vote in that city. We are watching an absolute Soviet show trial every
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time they call the court to order. Let's not give them the due that we would and respect of any court
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with a jury of peers, with a judge who is fair, who is balanced and impartial. These are nothing more
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than left-wing Marxist thugs working every day to destroy this country. I really believe that.
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And maybe that's an oversight, but it isn't by much. Do you think?
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No, I agree with you. I have a piece up today. You know, I say it's time to shine a light in the D.C.
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in the D.C. federal courthouse. These trials and hearings should be available to the American public.
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If January 6th is comparable to 9-11 and Pearl Harbor, as Merrick Garland says, and Joe Biden
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and the national news media says, then the American people should be able to see what's
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happening in the trials of those they believe are responsible for this terrorist attack.
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I was able to listen to all the hearings throughout 2021. Under COVID rules, every judge's courtroom had
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a public access line. I could call in and listen. Suddenly, before the trials began, Beryl Howell,
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the chief judge at the time, shut off those public access lines. You cannot hear or see anything
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happening in these courtrooms unless you go to Washington, D.C., go through a very extensive
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security checkpoint, as I have done numerous occasions. Go sit in a tiny courtroom without any
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access to your electronic device, or you could go in the press room, which is usually pretty crowded.
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That's the only way you could see what's going on. And God forbid you would want to cover a couple
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of different trials at one time or bounce back and forth. You can't do that.
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So now the D.C. appellate court, you can listen to it on YouTube. When I covered the Whitmer Fed
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napping hoax in Michigan, a federal trial, I called in every day and could hear what's going on.
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Why are these trials and hearings being held basically in secret? So that's something else
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I've urged House members to do, to appeal to the new chief judge, James Bosberg, and ask him to open
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up. We need more transparency in these court proceedings. Put the public access lines back
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in service. Let people and independent journalists call in and report in live time, because I'll tell
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you, Lou, the American people could hear what's going on. There would be more rallies in the streets
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because these are kangaroo courts with struggle sessions where judges and prosecutors force Americans
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to repent for the sin of trusting and supporting Donald Trump and objecting to the rigged election
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of Joe Biden. That's the sort of, that's just one thing that's happening there. So, um, you know,
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that's something the House could do, but I don't think that they will.
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You know, I mean, look, House Republicans have a lot on their plate. I don't dispute that at all from
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what's the revelations about the Biden crime family, you know, to trying to get some sort of
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accountability for COVID and the lockdowns. And then what's happening with our military,
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the deadly withdrawal of Afghanistan, you know, they have a lot on their plate.
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But I would argue, aside from the open border travesty, January 6th and this, uh, uh, January 6th
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prosecution is the biggest crisis in America right now, because we are setting precedents,
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including, as I said, the complete destruction of executive privilege for United States president.
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That is what these judges are doing. When you take away executive privilege claims for your own
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attorneys, for your vice president, your chief of staff, your national security advisor, your director
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of national intelligence. Um, you know, this has happened to House Republicans like Scott Perry,
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the FBI just snatched his cell phone out of his hand the day after the Mar-a-Lago raid, uh, extracted
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its contents, gave it back to him and he's fighting to get it back. And Beryl Howell said, no, you don't
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get executive privilege claims for this because under the speech and debate clause, simply because
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you're a member of Congress. I mean, they are eradicating privilege claims, um, that have been honored,
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you know, for, for, for 200 some odd years, probably not that long. But Beryl, Beryl Howell has been at
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the, uh, the forefront of those decisions to strip executive privilege from, uh, from the president.
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What other judges come to mind? Who, who else has been complicit in that obvious effort, partisan effort,
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ideological effort? Right. So Beryl Howell is the biggest culprit. Um, another one is Tanya Chutkin.
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So she was the one who initially, um, rejected Trump's executive privilege claims just overall
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for documentations and records related to January 6th. Her order was upheld by this, um, appellate
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court. Now we have the new ruling with James Bosberg, the new chief judge, which is not an encouraging
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sign, denying Mike Pence's exact claims of executive privilege and piercing that privilege to force him
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to go before the grand jury and testify about private communications. He had with the president
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about January 6th. The other day, Donald Trump in a rally, uh, in Waco, Texas said that either we will
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defeat the deep state or the deep state will defeat us. It's that straightforward. It's that stark.
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He's right, isn't he? Oh yes, he's, he's completely right. And I mean, I think Donald Trump could win on,
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on this sort of issue alone. Um, you know, unfortunately when he had the chance to clean
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house, he didn't, but maybe he's learned those lessons and, uh, you know, we'll move forward with
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very specific plans about what he will do. And I think he needs to start by dismantling the FBI
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and completely shutting down the DC U.S. Attorney's office. Yeah. And I think, uh, stripping up the,
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uh, stripping out the Department of Justice wholesale, uh, it is a, it is a den of vipers, uh, in every,
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every quarter of that department. It is horrific to contemplate. Uh, I have to tell you, Julie, you are
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always, uh, an inspiration to me and I know to the audience, uh, because you do honor so greatly
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the public's right to know about some of the toughest stories to cover and, and some of the
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meanest, uh, situations, uh, in our country's history, uh, when talking about the J6 prisoners.
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We always give our guests the last word, Julie. We thank you very much for being with us and all you do.
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Well, Lou, thank you so much for having me on, for reporting on my work from the very beginning.
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People can find my work at American Greatness and greatness.com. I'm on Twitter a lot, posting
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updates on court proceedings and motions. That's Julie underscore Kelly too. And of course my book
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on January 6th is available on Amazon. And we recommend all to you highly. Julie Kelly,
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thanks so much. Great American. God bless you. You too, Lou. Thank you.
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Thanks everybody for being with us. You can read Julie Kelly on americangreatness.com.
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We recommend as well, her book, January 6th, how the Democrats use the Capitol protest
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to launch a war on terror against the political right. Here tomorrow will be defense attorney
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Tim Parlatori representing president Trump and the special counsel cases. That is of course,
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the January 6th and Mar-a-Lago classified documents cases. Tim Parlatori, our guest here tomorrow.
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Please be with us. Thanks and God bless you and God bless America.