Nigel Farage is a former commodities trader, former member of the European Parliament from 1999 to 2020, and founder of the Populous UK Independence Party, a predecessor to the Reform UK Party, founded by Nigel Farage. He is now a broadcaster and presenter on the Great America Show with much higher ratings than Piers Morgan.
00:05:58.040And I have to say that I think many of the people that work at Fox are very, very upset because he staged something that I think was a disgrace.
00:06:08.120He said that Trump stormed out of the interview.
00:06:13.480And I think if I was working at Fox or Fox Business, I'd be very unhappy that one of my fellow, because he's a Fox Nation presenter now as well, that one of my fellow presenters had upset Trump as much as this.
00:06:27.100Well, you know, I talked with the president right after that interview had taken place, and he was saying, look, that nonsense just didn't happen, and saying precisely what you're saying.
00:06:39.620And he went on, I think, that Piers asking four or five questions after it was supposed to be end of interview.
00:06:47.560And Trump is a media-savvy fellow, if ever there were one.
00:06:51.980And he knows better than to react in that situation where he's getting frustrated.
00:06:57.440But he finally had to leave and to be firm about it.
00:07:06.480And I said to a couple of people, you know, my gosh, Rupert may fire this fellow or Lachlan, because that was just pure staging and certainly not up to Fox's usual high standards.
00:08:06.580And, you know, you were talking about the quick hit artist that he is.
00:08:09.760He's a quick hit artist, and he is a hit or miss artist who most often, I think, at least misses.
00:08:19.060So I wasn't a bit dismayed to see you deal aptly with him.
00:08:27.740And I want to turn now, if I may, to Nigel Farage, broadcaster.
00:08:33.820Instead of the political figure that we know you to be, which has served the UK very well over the course of your career in politics, what is your life all about right now?
00:09:42.840Against all the odds, despite the fact that for most of my campaigning life, we had everybody against us, every media organization, everybody against us.
00:11:23.640And the internal threat is a modern day form of Marxism.
00:11:28.020It is a campaign to make us hate ourselves, loathe our history, be ashamed of who we are, and to divide us all up, whether we're black or white or brown, whether we're heterosexual, homosexual, whatever we are.
00:11:45.180Identity politics is about dividing us from each other.
00:11:49.140It's about making us feel we're not part of a family.
00:11:55.360It's the attempt to rubbish and destroy all of these things.
00:11:59.780And the saddest part of all of this is that our educational establishments right across the Western world, they are playing this game and they are poisoning, literally poisoning the minds of young people.
00:12:11.980They're not teaching them critical thinking.
00:12:20.140And so really, for me, for me, my big, big emphasis is to explain to people that far from being ashamed of our history, we should understand our history, appreciate our history.
00:12:32.700There's much of it, actually, that we ought to be immensely proud of.
00:12:36.760And to point out to people that this is the exact playbook, the exact playbook that Lenin used in Russia against the Tsarist regime to turn the Russian people against their country, against their leaders, against their identity, so that this wonderful, glorious new Marxist world could come into being, which, of course, it did in 1917.
00:12:58.680And led to a regime that, in the end, killed 40 million of its own people.
00:13:04.780And the danger is we're headed down that path.
00:13:07.620And that is the thing that really fixates me.
00:13:10.120That is the campaign that I'm engaged on.
00:13:12.540And there's a really important point here for your listeners to this podcast, and it's this.
00:13:17.980If America falls, the entirety of the Western world falls.
00:13:23.840The battle in America is absolutely crucial.
00:13:26.960And, you know, all of the things that I've just said, the denouncing of many of the founding fathers of America, the removal of statues, the attempt to change history, the so-called campaign for racial equality in Black Lives Matter, which actually all it's doing is dividing people and turning people against each other.
00:13:48.560And the fact that the Democrats under Biden are now increasingly being influenced by these hard left influences.
00:13:59.420Now, it all sounds horrific, and yet, and yet I do see a great opportunity, and it's this.
00:14:07.180You know, the vast majority of ordinary, decent, working Americans, just like the Brits were Brexit, the vast majority of Americans, if you tell them to be ashamed of America and ashamed of its history, they say, well, no, we're not.
00:14:45.840Well, I think we'll be partners in that survival, as we have throughout our history.
00:14:54.400I also think that it's important for Americans to hear your voice, because we are talking now about the Marxist left in this country.
00:15:05.880The Marxist left is the Democratic Party.
00:15:08.560They're trying to pose as the traditional loyal opposition, when in point of fact, they are a fifth column by any definition.
00:15:18.720They are working to subvert everything that is American, and their animating ideology is Marxism, totalitarianism.
00:15:28.920And we're seeing it in almost every policy enunciation from this administration, the Biden administration, whether it's domestic policy or foreign policy.
00:15:39.100It is straightforwardly a government edict and fiat and executive order.
00:15:47.100And behind all of this is big money, whether it's the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world, the Silicon social media tech titans, or whether it is George Soros, who is trying to work out whatever psychological basis he has for spending his money and in what direction.
00:16:10.000But here, Soros, Zuckerberg, and the oligarchs, they would be called in any other country where this is not America, they are right now laying out a blueprint and executing it for the destruction of what is the American culture, history, the Judeo-Christian history of this country and culture.
00:16:34.240And it is a remarkable onslaught, and I'm curious to know, what is your view?
00:16:41.960As we have a president who is so obviously impaired, he reminds one certainly of Woodrow Wilson in 1919 when he had a stroke in the White House, his wife Edith decides to run the country for the next year, almost a year and a half, and does so.
00:17:01.360Or FDR, where pictures were not allowed, or FDR, where pictures were not allowed of him, a man who could not walk unaided, pictures were just not taken of him, never permitted to show his disability.
00:17:13.640It doesn't rise to the level of either Woodrow Wilson or certainly or to President Biden, but it was an elephant in the room, certainly for him, that inability to walk without help.
00:17:32.340And in this case, with Joe Biden, it is the media deciding that they're inexplicably, we can have a president who has a nuclear briefcase 12 feet away from him nearly at all times, and we're letting him manage, lead this country to the brink of I don't know what, whether it be the Ukraine conflict or what could be a miscalculation with the communist Chinese.
00:18:02.960I'm just astonished, you know, when Donald Trump said things that people didn't like as president, everyone screamed, the 25th Amendment, move the 25th, the man's mad, let's get rid of him.
00:18:12.640Why is no one talking about the 25th Amendment with a president who, as you say, clearly is just not up to the job and whose foreign policy decisions have affected the whole of the world in the most calamitous way?
00:18:27.240There is absolutely no way in which Putin would have invaded Ukraine if he hadn't seen what he thought was Western weakness over that horrifying decision to unilaterally walk away from Afghanistan to do so without any reference to his neighbours, any reference to his friends in NATO, to his colleagues.
00:18:48.820So, yeah, I think some of this is catastrophic.
00:18:51.940And as I say, the 25th at some point simply has to be moved on the points about Soros and Zuckerberg and all these people.
00:18:59.180Well, I mean, look, I remember a few years ago I got up in the European Parliament where my speeches were not always popular with those present, but I enjoyed them.
00:19:07.920And I got up one day and I said, there were 243 of you in this room today with me who have been named by George Soros's organisation as Friends of George Soros.
00:19:22.460I said, I'm going to be writing to each and every one of you to ask what financial support, what free holidays, what benefits you've had from this great friendship with Mr. Soros.
00:19:33.060And, you know, I didn't get a single reply. So we know about the influence of Soros and the others.
00:19:39.260But, hey, all of a sudden there is a shining knight in armour who has appeared on our side of the battle.
00:19:47.060And I'd never been aware that Elon Musk had ever backed Donald Trump, had ever supported the Republicans.
00:19:53.840But here's somebody who believes in open, free speech in a democratic society.
00:20:00.240And that is why he's put that consortium together.
00:20:03.840And I know there are still one or two hurdles to jump over, but he's put the consortium together to buy Twitter.
00:20:09.320He said that Trump would be welcome back on that platform, that it was morally wrong for him to be taken off.
00:20:15.700And isn't it bizarre? Trump was off and the Taliban were still on.
00:20:19.140I mean, you couldn't even you couldn't even make some of this stuff up, could you really?
00:20:22.380So I do. Awful. So I do actually think, Lou, that that maybe Musk is is here and maybe this marks an important beginning of a turning of the tide.
00:20:34.940And it's much, much needed because whatever the arguments around the events of November 2020, one thing is for certain.
00:20:43.540And that is that American mainstream media and social media did their utmost in a presidential election to make sure that the American voting public did not have full access to the facts.
00:21:08.280What is that of your countrymen when they see the United States in 2020?
00:21:13.840The attorney general, the highest placed law enforcement official in the country knows that a candidate for president is lying, knows that his son is lying, knows the contents of the the so-called laptop from hell.
00:21:30.760Uh, but decides not to intervene in an election.
00:21:35.980And so by doing intervened in the election on behalf of the liar, the man who is now ensnared in a scandal that involves much of his own family and China and Ukraine.
00:21:50.820Uh, and the list unfortunately goes on, uh, we have made a huge historical mistake, uh, a mistake that goes to the nationals, the issue of the foundation of our national security.
00:22:02.740And as you point out, it goes to the free world.
00:22:06.320Western civilization has someone of immense influence and power who should never have been there executing policies and following an ideology that is alien to most Americans.
00:22:20.220Your thoughts from, from the UK, it's a tricky one in some ways, because I mean, look, don't underestimate the amount of admiration, respect.
00:22:32.040And even, I'm going to say to you a hint of sort of jealousy, almost that we have about America, because we increasingly eat American food.
00:22:46.460Um, I'm pleased to say used to listen to a lot of our music, um, but, but, but, but the cultural, the cultural ties and bonds between our two countries are greater and stronger now than they have been at any point in history.
00:23:02.460And we look up to America, you know, as big, a bigger, stronger version of who we are, but we currently look at America, uh, with this incompetent leader, with the stories that we're seeing, hearing, reading about the massive growth in crime in American cities.
00:23:21.760Um, and I have to tell you, a lot of commentators in the United Kingdom, but just folk I speak to are beginning to say to themselves, are America's best days behind it?
00:23:32.460So we're beginning to ask ourselves questions about what America is becoming.
00:23:37.500And I don't think that's unfair, to be honest with you, because unless America does start to turn this around and, and Hey, you know what?
00:23:44.740The midterms are a great opportunity, aren't they?
00:23:46.840To start that process from moving again, unless America turns this around.
00:23:51.580Um, yeah, as I say, we look at it, we're a little bit bewildered that this country that we've admired so much appears to be in so much of a mess.
00:23:59.680And yet the causal agents at work, we share, uh, whether it be that, uh, Marxist left, that is not only in the UK or Europe or the United States, but global.
00:24:13.660And we seem to have not a, a worldview, if you will, of the, the battle that we've, I'm speaking about Americans that we're in.
00:24:24.960Uh, and it is a, uh, a battle that the Republican party doesn't even recognize quite yet.
00:24:31.440Uh, while the, while the Democrats, the Marxist left is as vicious and as focused and as effective as you could imagine, taking control of not only the campaigns and, and, uh, platforms and agendas, but also the electoral process itself.
00:24:53.100Uh, it is something bewildering to those of us who are conservatives of the United States, conservative Republicans to, to, to watch.
00:25:02.620It's, it is a mystery why there is so much passivity in the face of such aggression.
00:25:09.620Well, that is why, of course, the whole season that the Republican party is going through at the moment of the primaries of the selection for candidates for the house and for Senate is so vital and so important.
00:25:26.860Because just as the British conservative party was riddled with Remainers, riddled with people who did not want Brexit to happen and have done their best to sabotage it, frankly, ever since, you have a similar problem.
00:25:41.360So it's rhinos and Remainers on different sides of the pond.
00:25:44.320And I think if these selection processes get rid, um, of those rhinos and, and, and get proper conservatives, but people have also got some courage and some will to fight, then, then we might just have a Republican party that is not as passive.
00:26:00.340So I do think, I do think these selections that are currently going on, uh, will to a large extent help to shape the future of Republicanism.
00:26:11.000And, uh, and I, and I look forward to that, to seeing fighters and the leadership instead of rhinos, uh, who have sold out to so many people, they don't quite know which, uh, uh, you know, chit to mark up, uh, it's a little confusing for them.
00:26:27.520I'm sure I want to, I want to turn just very quickly, if you would, to, to Ukraine.
00:26:33.940Our Congress has just voted with 150, uh, Republicans supporting it, $40 billion in aid to Ukraine.
00:26:43.740That makes it a little over 50 billion that we will have spent, uh, if the Senate approves it.
00:26:48.920And if there are so many rhinos, of course, in, in the Senate that they will have to, uh, your thoughts about what we're doing, uh, what UK is doing, what Europe is doing in support of Ukraine.
00:27:06.320Well, I think for certain that, um, Boris Johnson, who's not been a very decisive prime minister, but on Ukraine, he has been very decisive, uh, whether you agree with it or not, you know, we have given an extraordinary amount of training, military equipment and aid to Ukraine.
00:27:23.020America has kind of followed on behind in a sense, uh, under, under Biden's leadership, the European union.
00:28:12.100I gave a speech eight years ago in the European parliament where I said, if we go on extending, expanding NATO and the European union eastwards up to the borders of Russia,
00:28:24.880we are poking the Russian bear with a stick and it will lead to a war in Ukraine.
00:28:31.140I said that eight years ago because I understood historically the Russians are paranoid about being, about being surrounded or being invaded.
00:28:42.240I mean, look at their history where they lost almost 30 million people in World War II.
00:28:48.920I always felt we were making a huge historical mistake and I was never afraid to say so.
00:28:53.780Now, none of that justifies much of what Russia has done over the course of the last few weeks, the treatment of civilians, the sharing, the shelling of Mariupol.
00:29:05.820There are many, many ghastly things that have happened.
00:29:09.460But, you know, Ukraine is a deeply corrupt country.
00:29:13.200Those eastern territories are heavily, heavily divided.
00:29:18.740We should, we should, the West, led by America, should be talking, not just to the Ukrainian president, they should be talking to Putin as well.
00:29:29.920We should be trying to find a way of getting a negotiated peace settlement.
00:29:35.080My fear, my real fear, is that by promising war crimes trials, rather like Nuremberg in 1946, by boxing Putin into a corner, by not giving him any way out or any means of even talking about a peace deal, that we are boxing into a corner a man who may well have now lost the rational function.
00:30:03.260And if we push this man too far, it is not absolutely beyond the realms of comprehension that we might finish up with an horrendous conflict with some sort of nuclear weapons being used.
00:32:17.080He made a lot of great history in the UK.
00:32:19.860And thank you for being with us, everybody.
00:32:22.120We'll be talking with John Solomon, Catherine Engelbrecht, GOP pollster Robert Kahaley, Congressman Ronnie Jackson, and Senator Ron Johnson all this week.