The Great America Show - MIKE DAVIS SAYS McCARTHY IS THE UNIPARTY, THE ESTABLISHMENT, THE DC SWAMP

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show and it's particularly great to

00:00:06.080 have you with us in these historic times. History is being made in Washington, not the kind the

00:00:12.560 swamp likes of course, not the kind that the Marxist dims, deep staters and corporate globalists like,

00:00:18.840 but history nonetheless and it's history that may, just may, save our republic. Of course you won't

00:00:26.280 hear that from the corporatist news media. The cable newsers think the battle for the speakership

00:00:31.920 by 21 patriots who want to limit the speaker's powers, restore regular order and transparency

00:00:38.700 is unnecessarily unseemly. And rhino and establishment tool Kevin McCarthy should just be coronated,

00:00:47.200 they say, because he does exactly what the lobbyists, corporatists, yes even Marxist

00:00:52.660 establishmentarians tell him to do. After all, he was trained by Paul Ryan, who was trained by John

00:01:00.180 Boehner. You know how it goes in D.C. And so does the political savant Karl Rove, who thinks it's just

00:01:07.560 awful, disastrous, of course he would. He's affixed to the republican establishment for his livelihood

00:01:14.480 and the wailing and moaning about 21 republicans standing up against the status quo is more about

00:01:22.540 their grief should the 21 congressmen actually prevail and change the autocratic rules of the house

00:01:28.920 that deny the vast majority of our representatives any real say in the actual creation and passage of

00:01:36.960 legislation. We citizens are such a bother to the elites, aren't we? How far will the McCarthy and 0.82

00:01:44.160 status quo supporters go? The corruption is just fine with us crowd supporting McCarthy or testing the

00:01:51.420 possibilities right now. Even if, well, being a bit unseemly about it all, here's a newbie to the

00:01:58.820 swamp whose swearing-in's been delayed by democracy. His name is Don Bacon. He's from Nebraska,

00:02:06.360 freshly elected in November, but as you will hear, obviously possessed of considerable swamp talent.

00:02:13.840 Here he is talking with Fox's Sandra Smith and John Roberts about a plan to embrace

00:02:20.120 the Rhinos' very best pals, the Marxist Dems, of course.

00:02:25.760 This is what I am advocating, and others are as well, not just me. If these 20 refuse to be part of the team

00:02:33.140 and don't come on board, we have no other choice but to go across the aisle and start negotiating,

00:02:39.800 and there's a lot of things you can negotiate. Committee ratios is a big one, because ordinarily you get

00:02:45.320 like a four-seat majority in a tight house like this. Maybe we get it to the two-seat majority

00:02:49.820 instead of four in all these committees. There may be things we can negotiate on subpoenas.

00:02:56.080 There's also on rules, like how to do motions to recommit. There's a lot of things that we could look

00:03:00.940 at to see if we could come up with a more bipartisan house. And by the way, we need to do that.

00:03:06.080 If you think we can get past totally partisan bills out of the U.S. House, and that a Democrat

00:03:11.520 Senate is going to pass them with a filibuster and get it to the president and get a signature,

00:03:15.720 it's not going to work. In the end, to get things done, you're going to have to have Democrats on

00:03:19.720 board anyway. And maybe we could build a structure that reflects that from the beginning.

00:03:24.140 So this is a historic battle underway, one that both political parties want you to,

00:03:29.500 well, if they have their way, ignore. And whatever you do, please, they say, don't change a thing.

00:03:37.240 Actually, that's what the establishment is ordering, not asking. They're ordering,

00:03:42.840 and McCarthy better deliver. Or otherwise, the American people will win one. And it is a big one.

00:03:50.780 Our guest is a constitutionalist, a D.C. attorney who's worked in all three branches of our government,

00:03:57.000 who's guided a number of Republican presidential Supreme Court nominees through their confirmation

00:04:02.540 hearings. Founder of the Article III project and fighting to rein in big tech, here's Mike Davis.

00:04:09.200 And Mike, great to have you with us. History in the making. McCarthy has broken a century-old record,

00:04:15.420 1923 it was, when the Speaker election then took nine rounds of voting. McCarthy last night set a new

00:04:23.260 record, 11 rounds of voting. And today, more votes on the way. Your thoughts?

00:04:30.300 Kevin McCarthy does not have 218 votes to become Speaker. He's never had 218 votes to become Speaker.

00:04:40.480 He's never earned 218 votes to become Speaker. And he'll never earn 218 votes to become Speaker,

00:04:47.740 because too many House Republicans do not trust him. And there is a very good reason that they do not

00:04:54.700 trust him. And that's because he's not honest with them. He's not been an effective leader for them

00:04:59.600 as the minority leader in the House or any other of his leadership posts over the last many years.

00:05:05.780 And so if Kevin McCarthy knows, if he wants to do what's right for his party and for his country,

00:05:13.000 he needs to step aside because there are people who are very dug in. It just takes five House

00:05:19.840 Republicans who are dug in. Right now, there are 21. Maybe that changes. Maybe that goes down to 10

00:05:26.000 or 7. But at the end of the day, there's always going to be, there are always going to be five

00:05:31.560 House Republicans who will never vote for his election for House Speaker. He needs to step aside

00:05:37.020 to let someone else run. It's looking at him as he's walking around from the floor, then going back

00:05:44.660 to the back wall. He, his body language is terrible. If he's a leader, he's leading them in a bad place

00:05:54.800 because you can just tell he is flummoxed by the proceedings. He doesn't seem to have any,

00:06:00.720 any direction, any apparent strategy. And to watch 10 rounds of this result in, you know,

00:06:10.620 just a worsening, a worsening condition for the would-be speaker. I can't even imagine how he feels.

00:06:20.120 Can you? I don't think Kevin McCarthy has a conservative bone in his body. I don't think he has

00:06:26.640 any guiding principle other than Kevin McCarthy. And he, I mean, what does he stand for other than

00:06:35.420 representing corporate special interest, including big tech monopolist? What, what does Kevin McCarthy

00:06:42.160 stand for? How is he inspiring his members to vote for him? How is he a leader? Why is he the

00:06:49.220 indispensable leader here that, that why is he the leader? You know, you know, the answer to that,

00:06:55.500 I mean, he's handing out chairmanships of committees before he's made speaker. He is making

00:07:01.340 promises, uh, across the conference, uh, and acting big. And in fact, moving into the speaker's office

00:07:09.460 for crying out loud. You talk about a, uh, hubris and really bad judgment. Uh, he is the walking, uh,

00:07:17.280 poster boy for it. Yeah. He has known Lou since the, uh, the, he's known since the election that he does,

00:07:24.220 he does not have 218 votes to become speaker and that he'll never have 218 votes to become a speaker

00:07:30.400 because he didn't win enough house races around the country to make up for the never Kevin votes

00:07:37.920 that is in the house before the election and after the election. So he's known this for two months.

00:07:43.500 He's the one that's the, who's delaying this. He's the one who is taking house Republicans

00:07:48.340 to the cliff today. He's the one who is forcing two days of these votes for house speaker. He has

00:07:56.120 known all along his strategy has been, first of all, his campaign manager is Jeff Miller,

00:08:02.000 his longtime best friend and top advisor, who is a lobbyist, uh, who has taken millions of dollars

00:08:10.400 from Amazon and Apple. He's Kevin McCarthy's campaign manager for the speaker race and their strategy and

00:08:17.360 their tactics are, we're going to have Kevin win at all costs. We're not going to make any

00:08:21.540 arguments for why he's the best pick. We're just going to use threats and fear and name calling

00:08:28.840 to, to get holdouts to finally cave. That was their strategy. They knew that they were going to have,

00:08:33.980 they thought they were going to have five votes against them on the floor. They started off with

00:08:38.340 19 votes against them. Now there's, there are 21 votes against them. It just keeps getting worse

00:08:44.100 by the vote for Kevin McCarthy. He's just not inspiring. He doesn't stand for anything other

00:08:49.600 than representing big corporate interest in being a creature of the swamp. Uh, everyone who listens to

00:08:58.080 this podcast knows my position on Kevin McCarthy, whom I consider to be, uh, objectionable for a number

00:09:04.440 of reasons, but most of all, because he is a rhino, uh, he is not a, a loyal Republican, let alone 0.87

00:09:11.960 conservative and pretends to be, uh, he is without question, uh, a man who is ruling by fear before he

00:09:20.260 even gets the gavel. You can only imagine what would happen. And that brings up the issue of

00:09:27.220 what happens next and why in the world is the mainstream corporatist media so averse to open

00:09:36.580 public debate about important political decisions that are made by the Congress of the United States.

00:09:44.120 We're talking about the second person, uh, from the presidency as the speaker of the house.

00:09:52.140 Why in the world was, is mainstream media just melting down over the coverage of this historic event?

00:10:01.620 Because Kevin McCarthy is part of the uniparty, the establishment, the DC swamp. Uh, he is, uh,

00:10:10.120 the, the, he represents the corporate interest. He represents the status quo, all the lobbyists in

00:10:16.700 town love Kevin McCarthy. They've already bought him. Uh, you know, Kevin McCarthy's bought and sold.

00:10:22.980 They, they know they already have their hooks into him and they don't want to have to do the work of

00:10:27.540 buying a new speaker. So they really, really want Kevin McCarthy at all costs here. The problem is,

00:10:33.280 is that he doesn't have the votes and the, in order to be the speaker of the house, you need 218

00:10:39.840 votes. And that's very clear. I interned for Newt Gingrich back in, uh, 1998 when he went down as the

00:10:45.820 speaker of the house after the Clinton impeachment, because he did not have the 218 votes, but speaker

00:10:52.180 Gingrich did the right thing. Remember he, he called them cannibals at the time, but he did not 0.94

00:10:57.060 force these embarrassing floor votes that he knew he would lose because he thought it would be bad

00:11:02.480 for the country, bad for the party. And so he decided, decided to resign and then Livingston ran

00:11:08.420 and then he got chased out and then Hastert became the speaker. But that's what Kevin McCarthy should

00:11:14.560 have done instead of taking the house and his colleagues, making his colleagues go out there

00:11:19.680 and make these embarrassing floor speeches where they're fake crying, uh, and groveling and begging

00:11:25.440 and twisting arms and threatening people for votes. He should have just stepped aside. He doesn't have

00:11:30.480 218 votes. He's never going to get 218 votes. And frankly, Lou, if this were an anonymous

00:11:36.840 roll call, if this were an anonymous vote, he would, Kevin McCarthy would get one vote for speaker.

00:11:42.440 It's, I think that that is, well, I think a very good summation, Mike, of the, of the problem he

00:11:52.420 faces. But I think that the, the issue for the national corporate media, uh, is that they don't

00:11:59.780 comprehend the role of these 20, uh, gladiators and sparks the, the Congresswoman who is voting

00:12:07.400 present as a vote against him as well. Of course, those 21, uh, are, are, are remarkable because

00:12:15.140 they are saving the Republican and I am not being hyperbolic. I am not being sensational. And when I

00:12:21.200 say, I believe they're saving the Republic. If anybody listened to the passion and the words that

00:12:28.860 these people are speaking, uh, they're, they're not indulging in the, uh, the platitudes and the

00:12:35.920 cliches, uh, that the rest of the conference is, it's pitiful to watch the speeches of the pro

00:12:43.780 McCarthy, the pro Rhino, uh, supporters. Think about, listen to, uh, listen to Matt Rosendale

00:12:52.640 as he talks about reforming, reforming the, the conference, the Congress itself and their rules

00:13:01.520 and restoring integrity, uh, to the house of representatives. Here he is. We have had more

00:13:08.340 discussion and debate over the last three days than I have participated in on this floor for

00:13:16.940 the last two years.

00:13:23.180 And it's healthy. It absolutely promotes the collegiality that everyone is striving to obtain.

00:13:30.680 We're having discussions, not just within our own party, but amongst each other as we walk around

00:13:37.380 and start planning for the legislation that we will need to address over the next two years in the

00:13:44.500 118th Congress that sooner or later, yes, sooner or later, we will begin to function as those are the

00:13:56.700 good days. And guess what? Our constituents think as they watch us on C-SPAN today, that this is how

00:14:05.160 every day functions. They think that this is how every bill gets addressed in this body. And they will

00:14:13.720 be shocked to learn the ones that you have not disclosed the little nasty secret to that, unfortunately,

00:14:21.760 that's not how it works around this place.

00:14:24.980 So Mike, there you have it. Matt Rosendale, uh, giving, I think one of the most important civics

00:14:30.880 lessons, uh, in the history of the house to the American people, because he laid out the dirty 0.99

00:14:38.580 little secrets as he put it. He, I added dirty, but the little secrets of the house, uh, the American 0.99

00:14:44.680 public isn't aware of, of what a, uh, an authoritarian structure, uh, exists within that great democratic

00:14:53.800 house. That's exactly right, Lou. I mean, we're seeing with this house speaker race, what's the

00:15:01.520 house, what the members of Congress, what the leadership does every, every year with the federal

00:15:06.640 budget. They wait till the very last minute, uh, and they, they go behind, go behind, uh, go, go out

00:15:14.680 of the public view, closed doors, smoke filled room. They put together these horrific deals.

00:15:20.180 They come back and they say, you need to vote on this. We're going to jam this down your throat. 0.95

00:15:24.920 Otherwise the country is going to fall apart, right? Or some hysterics. And then the rank and file 1.00

00:15:29.800 members of the house and the Senate as well, they have to vote for this stuff. And this, this needs to

00:15:35.020 change. We need to have a, uh, uh, you know, the Democrats can pretend like they, they care about

00:15:41.340 democracy. Let's return, return some democracy to the house of representatives and to the Senate.

00:15:46.520 Let's have some more regular order. Let's have it where, where the rank and file, uh, members of the

00:15:52.300 house and Senate actually have a say, and it's not just controlled by the leadership and the lobbyists.

00:15:58.780 Yeah, I, I, I think that there, it's, it's much worse than that. It's not just the Democrats.

00:16:04.480 Let's, let's be clear. The Republicans have been as offensive and egregious, uh, and lazy. Uh, they 0.98

00:16:11.560 want power, but they don't want to work. They do not want to have to go to the trouble of, uh, going

00:16:17.120 through the democratic process and actually getting a vote on bills. Uh, it is to me appalling. And,

00:16:23.880 and for Rosendale to go through this, Andy Biggs, uh, standing up there, uh, leading the,

00:16:29.800 leading the charge on this, he is the point of the spear. He is the one who first opposed McCarthy.

00:16:36.380 These people are doing this because they honestly fervently believe in this country,

00:16:42.120 it's government and our way of life. And those 200 people in the conferences, you said,

00:16:49.080 they're scared to death because they, they don't know if they're going to have the right committee

00:16:52.540 assignment. They don't know if they're going to get a chairmanship. They know that there can be

00:16:56.400 great retribution from a, from an upset Kevin McCarthy, uh, if he is speaker and that's why

00:17:02.920 they're supporting him. I mean, it's that bald, that raw and that repugnant. Yeah, that's absolutely 0.98

00:17:09.100 right. The speaker of the house has a tremendous amount of power in the house of representatives

00:17:14.840 and Republicans will only control one of the political branches over the next two years. The

00:17:23.080 Democrats obviously control the white house and the Senate. It is critically important. We put

00:17:28.080 someone in that speaker's office who is red pilled and who understands that our country is on the

00:17:35.020 break. This is not our parents or grandparents Democrat party anymore. These are not liberals who

00:17:41.000 love America and just disagree with conservatives on the best way to get there. These are not liberals

00:17:46.160 who believe in equality and due process and free speech. These are leftists who hate all of those

00:17:51.880 things. They believe in equity and BLM and censorship. We need a speaker of the house who understands

00:17:58.840 that we need to be fighting. We need to be fighting. We've had three years of COVIDians trying to control 1.00

00:18:05.780 every aspect of our lives. We've had BLM and Antifa, uh, destroying American cities and going to war

00:18:12.660 against the police and bringing crime crime and chaos, uh, to America. We've had these, uh, this

00:18:19.620 gender chaos in schools where they're going in and praying on kids, making them confused about their,

00:18:27.620 their gender and gender affirming care, which is sexual mutilation of kids and, and hormone pills, 0.87

00:18:34.180 the kids. We need someone who understands that this is not the liberal Democrat party of the past.

00:18:39.940 This is the Marxist left. And we need a, we need a speaker who is, who has, who has very thick skin

00:18:47.140 and is willing to recognize the threat we face and who is willing to fight them.

00:18:52.300 Do you have anybody in mind who fits that bill?

00:18:55.580 You know, I, I, I, I think that there are a lot of good people out there in the house of

00:19:00.400 representatives. Uh, I think at the end of the day, the consensus candidate with such a narrow margin

00:19:06.080 in the house, I think we have what, 222 seats or 221 seats in the house. I think, I think the person

00:19:13.200 222, I think the Republican who can get the 218 seats to appease all sides and actually have thick

00:19:22.820 skin and leadership ability and is conservative and principled. I think the person, I really do think

00:19:28.140 it's going to come down to Steve Scalise from Louisiana. He's currently, he's doing a, whoa, whoa,

00:19:32.440 Steve Scalise. I really do Lou. And I can tell you why he's a rhino. Come on. No, I, I, so look,

00:19:39.760 he's not my first choice. I don't think he's the perfect choice, but I actually think Steve Scalise

00:19:44.460 is the person who can thread the needle here. And, and he, I mean, I don't know Steve, Steve Scalise

00:19:51.140 personally. I've never met him. I know people who have worked for him and they've worked with him

00:19:56.360 and they like him. They say he's a good guy and he's principled. I think when people think that

00:20:00.680 Steve Scalise is a rhino right now, it's because he's being a second fiddle. He's being a loyal

00:20:06.320 lieutenant to Kevin McCarthy over the last many years. Well, that, you know, that paradigm has

00:20:12.740 worked out pretty well to indicate the politics and the, and the philosophy of, of the, of a speaker

00:20:19.520 or any member of leadership. We go from John Boehner. We go to what was going to be at one point,

00:20:26.000 Kevin McCarthy, but then Vince intervened and it became Paul Ryan. And now here we are with Kevin

00:20:33.180 McCarthy again, rhinos lead rhinos, lead rhinos. It's the nature of the thing. And the, and the

00:20:39.960 driving determinant in it all has been, it seems no matter how conservative the conference is elected 0.99

00:20:47.960 from all across the country, the Republican party is the only party of the two that's dumb enough 0.98

00:20:54.260 to then turn and say, we would like a rhino to lead us because rhinos get along better with radical 0.99

00:21:00.880 Marxists and Democrats than we do. It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen. Well, and this is an 0.98

00:21:07.500 opportunity for that to break. Well, you know, listen, I, if, if we could pick a conservative

00:21:13.080 superstar, I mean, hell, I would love someone like Marjorie Taylor green or Matt Gates or Boebert's or one

00:21:19.360 of these fire breathing conservatives. I would love that Jim banks. Uh, I just don't think that

00:21:25.100 they're, they're ever going to be able to get the 218 votes to get elected. I actually don't think

00:21:30.540 Scalise is a rhino. I actually think he's, you don't think he's a what? I don't think Scalise is a

00:21:35.540 rhino. I think he's pretty solidly conservative. I I'm just curious why you think he's a rhino. 0.92

00:21:40.340 Okay. How long has he been in Congress? He's been there. I don't know, since 2012 years,

00:21:45.320 maybe. Yeah. And over that period of time, uh, has he been a part of those buying into, uh, the

00:21:52.560 omnibus bills and the, uh, 30 plus trillion dollars of debt? Uh, when's the last time he

00:21:58.540 stood on principle, you know, uh, stood like Atlas in the front of the, in the, at the well and said,

00:22:06.300 we're not going to do this. Uh, you name one, one act of courage, uh, in that legislative process.

00:22:15.320 During his period. And, and I, and I will take that into account. Well, he, I just can't think

00:22:21.260 of it. He certainly was a bomb thrower when he was part of the freedom caucus. Um, so, you know,

00:22:26.580 I, I think it's, it's different when you're the number two versus the number one. If you're,

00:22:31.160 if you're the speaker, I think you have a lot more leeway to be more conservative and bold when

00:22:35.600 you're the number two, you just have to kind of play second fiddle. Here's the thing about

00:22:39.760 Scalise. And, uh, and I hope, uh, let me be very clear about this.

00:22:47.780 Mike, you know, the, the fact is McCarthy trained Scalise just like Ryan trained McCarthy. I mean,

00:22:58.520 this is a chain and like banner trained Ryan. Uh, it's, it goes on and on and it's how we perpetuate

00:23:06.520 this cesspool, this swamp, this aggravating disappointment, uh, for the American people.

00:23:13.760 It's more than a disappointment. It's an outrage. And then they sit there and they talk about

00:23:18.420 nonsense. Like, uh, you know, we're going to investigate the Biden's and we're going to

00:23:23.260 stop 87,000 IRS agents. You and I, and they know that what they're saying to the American people,

00:23:30.420 when they say that they will not be able to do because they won't have a justice department.

00:23:37.860 They won't have an FBI and they won't be able to deliver on a single one of those stitches. And

00:23:43.720 when it comes to the budget, the budget of the United States government is settled until the end

00:23:49.540 of September, 2023. Right? Well, yeah, I would ask this Lou, who would you pick for Speaker of the

00:23:55.980 House? Who would I pick? Byron Donalds right now. Oh, I'm with you on that. I'm, I'm fully with you

00:24:02.780 on that. We're in agreement. But I, but let me say why too. Byron Donalds has been there. This is

00:24:10.140 his second term in office. And some people say, Dobbs, you've got to be crazy. This man has only been 0.98

00:24:15.480 there two years. You know what? That's an advantage right now to only have been in the swamp for two

00:24:21.300 years is a, it's unlikely that the swamp will ever get to a man of his integrity. In my opinion,

00:24:29.060 I'm pretty good at judging character. His is outstanding. And I love the fact that those,

00:24:34.360 those 20 men and women who were standing up for the American people in this process,

00:24:40.540 reminding us that this is a democracy, that this is a constitutional Republic and that they have

00:24:46.520 obligations to us. This is one of the most refreshing moments in our country's history.

00:24:52.200 I haven't shared this loudly since Donald Trump was elected in 2016 to break up this establishment that

00:24:59.940 is so corrupt and foul. And I'm talking about corporate elitist. I'm talking about, once I used to

00:25:07.000 talk about corporate America, but these are corporate globalists, the billionaire donor class

00:25:12.060 that pursues only their financial goals. This is a country in, the oligarchs are suffocating us right

00:25:21.200 now. And I don't care who they are. And some of them I like even, but what they're doing to the

00:25:26.060 country is an outrage. I am with you 100%. I am. I mean, I am a pretty radical bomb thrower and I love

00:25:34.040 these 21 house Republicans who were standing firm. They are bold. They are courageous. They are going

00:25:39.720 to take, they're taking so much heat right now. There are going to be so many retributions against

00:25:44.960 them when this race is over and, but they are doing the right thing. They are putting our country 1.00

00:25:50.580 ahead of their own interest. I think it's incredible what they're doing. Uh, I just, and look at the

00:25:56.840 cowards in the national media who are criticizing them. They are conservative extremists. These are not 0.98

00:26:02.860 conservative extremists. These are vigilant, vigorous patriots doing the right thing for the country,

00:26:12.640 not themselves. Uh, I, I admire each one of them because it takes, as you well know, it is taking immense

00:26:20.040 courage for those people to put themselves in front of the national media, the American public, and be reviled

00:26:26.120 for standing up for the right things. That's how upside down this country is right now. Right is

00:26:32.620 wrong. Wrong is right. You know, the sky is down and the ground is up. These people are doing this

00:26:40.500 nation a service. It's just, they deserve so much gratitude and respect for what they're doing. Byron

00:26:48.040 Donald's in, in straightforward language is the freshest, um, uh, I think, uh, toughest, uh, brightest

00:26:58.140 guy, uh, in that conference right now. I really do. Uh, I, when I've interviewed him, he is crisp. He is

00:27:04.960 thought out. He is, you know, I'm not asking the question for, for the first time to this man. He's had

00:27:10.280 that question. He's thought about it. Uh, he's so underestimated. Uh, and I think those, those

00:27:17.820 representatives who are standing up in Congress and, and, and singing his praises, uh, you know, I, I,

00:27:24.540 they know him best and they are putting him forward. Uh, and I think this is a chance it's going to be

00:27:31.640 lightning in the bottle. And I understand that, but to put him up as speaker and have him win the

00:27:37.580 speakership would be one of the healthiest things that could ever happen to the house of 1.00

00:27:41.680 representatives. One of the greatest things that could happen to this government, uh, and the

00:27:47.740 Republican party, but most of all to this Republic and to the American people. I'm with you. I think

00:27:54.740 this guy's great. He's a real American from the real world. He grew up with, you know, a single mom

00:28:00.400 in New York city. He has made it. Uh, he he's, he, you know, he's pretty new in the house, but he also

00:28:06.820 served four years in the Florida house of representative, uh, or two years, wherever

00:28:11.920 it was before he came to the house of representatives. So he has, you know, five or

00:28:16.180 six years of legislative experience. So he's not an amateur. Uh, I, I really liked the guy. I think

00:28:21.140 he's very impressive. I don't know if he has the votes to be speaker right now, but I, I hope that

00:28:25.960 the Republicans put him in leadership because I find him to be so impressive. He's young. I think

00:28:31.620 he's my age, like 44 years old, 45 years old. And I, he has a very bright future in the house

00:28:37.800 of representatives. And so even if he can't make speaker this round, he needs to be put

00:28:42.660 in leadership. If he doesn't make speaker this round, the Republican party is, is nihilistic.

00:28:50.040 It is, it's on the verge of suicidal. This is a moment to do the right thing. Uh, those 20,

00:28:58.740 those 20 Republicans right now have seized the moment and identified the issue. It is the

00:29:05.900 corruption of the house of representatives and the swamp in which it lives. It is time for,

00:29:12.320 for everyone to roll back that swamp. This can be a, everybody wants to do bipartisan things.

00:29:17.960 Uh, they talk bipartisan, principally the Democrats, cause they're not in control,

00:29:21.640 but if you want to be bipartisan, let's get rid of all of that nonsense. Uh, you know,

00:29:28.040 shutting down amendments, shutting down the participation, going to, uh, you know, just

00:29:33.920 unanimous consent instead of a, uh, a vote, uh, on the floor. I mean, the, this, the house of

00:29:42.280 representatives right now is a sick, sick and corrupt institution, just like most of the federal 0.99

00:29:47.640 government. And by the way, when I say most, I mean about 90% of it. Am I being too, uh, too harsh? 0.99

00:29:54.160 No, I, I think I would love to see the, I would love to see, uh, most of the federal government

00:30:00.120 dismantled. And if you actually, uh, sent power and money out of Washington and back to the states

00:30:06.400 and back to the people who, who, who we send to Congress, wouldn't really make that big of a

00:30:12.080 difference. It shouldn't be so impactful. What happens on that in the house of representatives,

00:30:17.000 it should, what should be most impactful is what hap, what happens in your, you know, your city

00:30:22.000 council or your state legislative body, not the house of representatives. Well, I, I take your point

00:30:28.080 about controlling your, your, your local government, uh, is your, you can exert the greatest influence

00:30:36.580 because of the proximity, but, uh, the house of representatives properly, properly run. And that

00:30:44.300 means following traditional, uh, process and rules, uh, and a distribution of power again, back to the

00:30:51.500 representatives. Uh, no, you're not going to be able to run through all of these bills, spending

00:30:56.080 lavish sums of money that it for projects would like to study, uh, you know, mockingbirds and hummingbirds

00:31:02.740 on their travels to, uh, uh, you know, whatever their origin is in the migration system. Yeah.

00:31:08.260 That's not going to happen, but that's exactly the point to reduce the size of government, to reduce

00:31:13.700 its rate of growth, to slow down first, and then start spending and start paying our way through.

00:31:22.020 We're now, you talked about, uh, you know, Scalise being there for 12 years. Uh, you know,

00:31:27.860 McCarthy has been there 14 years. Uh, the point was made, I believe by Andy Biggs,

00:31:32.660 uh, $11 trillion was the national debt 14 years ago. And now it's almost $33 trillion. It's, uh,

00:31:43.260 it's going to be approaching 33 trillion by the end of this fiscal year. It's, this is shameful.

00:31:50.460 And the Republicans are supposed to be conservatives and it's obscene to see what the Republicans as a

00:31:56.980 party have done. They are dishonest and they are not as dishonest, but because the Marxist Dems are 0.60

00:32:04.580 trying to, trying to overtly destroy the country, but the Republicans have got, got to wake up and

00:32:12.660 talk straight. And when they start the nonsense with these, you know, these cliches and nonsense,

00:32:18.420 about 87,000 IRS agents, I want them the hell out too, but they're going to be there for a year,

00:32:23.860 no matter what, because that's already happened. They're going to have to understand that the

00:32:28.820 American people aren't fools. And this is a great way to start with honest leadership selected by an

00:32:35.300 honest conference, uh, of, of rhinos and moderates, uh, and in conservatives, there is no reason for,

00:32:44.660 for any other result. I just think Byron Donald is such a, an opportunity for true leadership in the

00:32:51.140 house. I would, I would love it. And if we can get 218 votes for him, I am all for it. And I think

00:32:57.220 that this debate that's going on, I think we're on the 11th vote now for speaker. I think this is a

00:33:02.900 very good thing. It tells the DC establishment, the uniparty of the swamp that, you know what,

00:33:08.660 conservatives don't have to take this anymore. So they need to make it. This is such a signal to

00:33:13.940 the, to Washington that, that the American people are demanding, demanding change here.

00:33:18.740 And we should be calling these 21 courageous house Republicans and thanking them, sending

00:33:23.940 them emails, promoting, promoting them on social media and make, make them understand that there

00:33:29.300 are millions and millions and millions of real Americans in the real world who are supporting

00:33:33.860 their efforts. And you know, this is despite the protestations of columnists and the newspapers and

00:33:42.020 the, the left-wing media at large, uh, by the way, and the conservative media as well,

00:33:47.780 they're not exempt either. Uh, suggesting this is some sort of an imposition, uh, on the, uh,

00:33:54.900 on the great national media that has better things to do than watch, uh, a historic moment like this.

00:34:00.980 Yeah. I mean, think about when Republicans will control the house and that's it. Think about if

00:34:06.180 there is a speaker, Kevin McCarthy going into the white house and negotiating at the end of the year

00:34:12.580 with white house, chief of staff, Ron Klain and Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, McCarthy's

00:34:17.940 going to give away the farm like he does every single year, like he's doing right now in this

00:34:25.140 house speaker race. I was saying earlier today, he's given away his shirts and socks and pants,

00:34:32.180 and even his underwear, he has nothing left to give. And here we are on the 11th vote for speaker.

00:34:37.940 This guy desperately clinging on, he can't even get 218 Republicans in the house to vote for him.

00:34:44.980 And yet we want him to go, go negotiate against the Biden white house and the, the, the Senate

00:34:50.260 Democrats and represent Republicans and conservatives. He's ineffective. He's, he's the worst combination

00:34:56.660 of incompetence and arrogant. You can be one, you can't be both. It's time for speaker or for Kevin 0.99

00:35:03.540 McCarthy to step aside. He cannot be the speaker. And, uh, I want to just turn to one other issue.

00:35:12.180 And that is, you know, we're not, we're not holding up important people's business, uh,

00:35:17.860 either. I think we should point out they're doing the people's business in selecting a speaker,

00:35:24.500 ultimately God willing, uh, who will be representative of, uh, uh, of the principles

00:35:31.940 and values of the Republican party. Uh, someone said the other day, Mike, to me, uh, you know,

00:35:38.180 the, the, there were, they were concerned about, uh, you know, the, the agenda here, the Republican

00:35:44.340 agenda. You know, I don't know of anybody who can tell us what the conservative agenda is. I don't

00:35:50.980 know of anybody who knows what the, uh, the commitment to America is. Uh, this, this is a,

00:35:58.260 this is a bizarre Republican party. That's asking, why did we have such a narrow win in November?

00:36:05.140 The reason is don't want to do what the hell they were going to do. And they made no promises,

00:36:09.700 no substantive promises. Uh, and that was just fine with the leadership of the, on Capitol Hill,

00:36:16.100 wasn't it? Well, I mean, that's the problem. That was the problem with Kevin McCarthy. He,

00:36:19.540 he, he doesn't, he doesn't have a conservative bone in his body. He doesn't have any guiding

00:36:23.540 principles. His guiding principle is Kevin McCarthy. And, uh, he, he will, if you have

00:36:28.820 a $5,000 PAC check, he'll, he'll talk to you. If you don't have a $5,000 PAC check, good luck. So

00:36:35.220 if you're a parent concerned about gender chaos in schools, forget about it. Kevin McCarthy's not

00:36:41.860 going to talk to you. You don't have a corporate lobbyist. You know, if you're a real American in the

00:36:46.260 real world worried about gas prices or crime or these COVID lockdowns or BLM or that the Marxist

00:36:54.260 chaos that they've watched for the last three years and done nothing about Kevin McCarthy is not your

00:37:00.900 man. If you are a fortune 50 corporation, Kevin McCarthy is your man. Oh yeah. Well, and, uh, and

00:37:08.980 quite a large number of the Democrats and Republicans in the house of representatives as well. Uh, right

00:37:14.980 now, hopefully that will change. I want to, and also you're working very hard, uh, to, to bring rain in

00:37:24.100 the immense power of big tech and this, in this country, uh, give us a sense of what you think,

00:37:31.140 not what you want, but how much power, how much influence can there be in this, this new 118th

00:37:39.460 Congress that's that will be dedicated to reigning in the immense power of corporate globalists.

00:37:47.140 And this is my biggest problem with Kevin McCarthy. Lou, if Kevin McCarthy becomes the house speaker,

00:37:53.460 uh, you can forget about any bipartisan effort to reign in big tech. That is done. Kevin McCarthy

00:38:02.580 is the number one impediments to internet accountability projects efforts over the last

00:38:08.740 three years to reign in big tech. Number two is Jim Jordan. Kevin McCarthy is by far number one. And the

00:38:14.740 reason is Kevin McCarthy takes so much money from big tech and he does their bidding. And the bigger

00:38:22.340 problem is, is Jeff Miller, Kevin McCarthy's top advisor has taken millions from Amazon and Apple.

00:38:29.620 He is Kevin McCarthy is a complete total obstacle to any efforts to reign in big tech. And that's why

00:38:37.860 he could not be the speaker of the house. And that's why we need to have a viable plan B. If we don't have

00:38:43.860 a viable plan B, Kevin McCarthy is going to win by defaults by attrition. Mike Davis. Thanks so much for

00:38:50.500 being with us for being with us. We appreciate it. Uh, and thank you for being here and let's, uh,

00:38:54.420 let's all pray that, uh, the Republic is well served by the choices that the Republican conference makes

00:39:00.420 here, uh, over the next few days. Uh, we assume it'll be a few days, few weeks, whatever it may be. History,

00:39:08.340 history is being made. Thanks so much for being with us. God bless. Thank you. Mike Davis,

00:39:15.060 great American doing great things for America. Thanks everybody for being with us. Our guests

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The Great America Show - January 06, 2023

MIKE DAVIS SAYS McCARTHY IS THE UNIPARTY, THE ESTABLISHMENT, THE DC SWAMP

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