The Great America Show - February 28, 2022


MOST AMERICANS DOUBT BIDEN’S MENTAL FITNESS AS UKRAINE FIGHTS FOR FREEDOM


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A new poll shows that a majority of Americans have questions about whether Vice President Joe Biden has the mental sharpness to be a major national issue in such times, and the answer may lie in the question of whether he is fit to lead the country.

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00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,
00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
00:00:09.220 And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
00:00:14.500 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America show.
00:00:17.900 Thanks for being with us on what looks to be another day of higher casualties among the
00:00:22.880 Ukrainian defenders and an increasingly desperate need to get as much assistance to the Ukrainian
00:00:28.720 people, their government, and the defenders as quickly as possible.
00:00:33.760 We all have a lot of questions today and too few answers.
00:00:37.880 And the reasons for that go beyond the fog of war.
00:00:42.080 Today, we're dealing with a state of our president's cognitive ability.
00:00:46.700 A new poll shows most Americans have questions about his mental sharpness.
00:00:51.480 Europe is now leading the urgent delivery of weapons and ammunition and food to the
00:00:57.100 valiant Ukraine defenders.
00:00:59.260 But the question now is, will all of that be in time?
00:01:03.280 There's ever greater urgency.
00:01:05.580 There's heavy fighting reported throughout Ukraine.
00:01:08.820 Russian invaders are intensifying their bombardments and assault of key large cities.
00:01:14.360 And still, the Ukrainian military and civilian resistance fighters are doing what most military
00:01:20.800 analysts said would be next to impossible before the fighting began.
00:01:25.140 There are higher casualties on both sides.
00:01:28.360 But the Ukrainians at this point are holding on to most of their cities, despite ever larger 0.99
00:01:34.380 numbers of Russian troops being thrown into the battle.
00:01:38.040 Putin's forces far outnumber Ukraine's defenders.
00:01:41.680 They are far better trained, far better equipped, far better weaponry.
00:01:46.460 And yet, here we are.
00:01:48.440 Day five of the invasion and the fight still rages.
00:01:51.560 A big question is whether help will get to the Ukrainians in time.
00:01:57.040 And Putin is reportedly very unhappy, apparently unhappy enough that he's allowed talks to be
00:02:02.820 taken.
00:02:03.780 The Russians and Ukrainian representatives will meet on the Belarus border.
00:02:08.420 No conditions, no agenda, no surrender, just talks and very few expectations.
00:02:14.920 But it does offer hope for something better than the continuation of the Russian onslaught against 0.97
00:02:21.380 a brave Ukrainian military and civilian resistance who are still defending their nation and their
00:02:27.300 brave leader, the courageous President Volodymyr Zelensky, whose people are rallying around him
00:02:33.720 for standing with them, for leading them, and asking the West not for a rescue from combat,
00:02:39.400 but for more ammunition.
00:02:40.980 On the Russian side, Vladimir Putin is not faring as well with his people.
00:02:46.600 In fact, anti-war demonstrations in Russia are increasing in number, and the size of those
00:02:52.140 demonstrations is growing.
00:02:54.460 And it has to be worrying the Kremlin and Putin.
00:02:57.800 Putin is, to this point, hardly unnerved or pausing his attacks.
00:03:02.520 He's ordered in 10,000 more paratroopers to reinforce his soldiers on the front lines.
00:03:08.200 And there are reports Belarus is dispatching their special forces to join up with the Russians
00:03:14.120 in their attacks on Kiev and large cities.
00:03:18.700 Meanwhile, the West has halted Russia's ability to utilize the global financial and trade data
00:03:23.820 and funding clearinghouse known as SWIFT, a further tightening of the Western blockade against
00:03:29.740 Russia by the European nations, including the European Union.
00:03:33.680 It's restricting their airspace and refusing now to allow Russian aircraft to fly overhead.
00:03:39.680 A big blow to Putin, who must be beginning to feel the building pressure as NATO and Europe
00:03:46.620 start shipping billions of dollars worth of weapons and aid.
00:03:50.760 Yes, all of that should have taken place before the invasion, or at least certainly the first day.
00:03:56.800 But at least the Euros are now acting in support of Ukraine, and in fact, leading in the West's response
00:04:04.160 to Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
00:04:06.480 Even Germany, that opposed tough steps initially against Russia, has reversed itself into shipping
00:04:13.200 supplies, weapons, and materiel to Ukraine.
00:04:17.480 In the past few days, the White House, you may have noticed, has receded from any form of leadership,
00:04:23.660 perhaps just as well given their missteps and misstatements for the past several weeks.
00:04:29.700 President Biden not even in the White House over the weekend, but at home in Delaware.
00:04:35.540 As over the weekend, Putin ordered his nuclear forces to go on high alert.
00:04:40.560 The Biden administration's silence may well reflect a president whose Washington Post ABC poll numbers
00:04:47.020 have plummeted, plunging to 37%, and a huge chasm for the Democrats to overcome in the midterm elections,
00:04:56.420 according to that same poll.
00:04:58.380 It looks as though a disaster looms for the Democrats.
00:05:01.820 And the same poll also shows a majority of Americans now question whether President Biden
00:05:08.620 has the mental sharpness to be president.
00:05:11.960 A president's mental health would be a major national issue in the best of times.
00:05:17.600 And these are not those times.
00:05:20.100 These are times of crisis and the possibility of an expanding war in Europe.
00:05:25.640 There is, we must also acknowledge now, even the possibility of a nuclear war with Russian 0.94
00:05:31.720 forces now on high alert.
00:05:34.040 The American people must know whether our commander-in-chief is fit to lead in such times as these.
00:05:40.340 We talked with a man who knows the importance of strong leadership, who is also a retired
00:05:46.040 admiral and physician.
00:05:48.200 He also served as the White House physician for three presidents, Presidents Bush, Obama,
00:05:54.360 and Trump.
00:05:55.460 We're joined now by that distinguished man who spent his life serving this nation and is
00:06:00.900 now a U.S.
00:06:02.580 congressman from Texas, Dr.
00:06:04.700 Ronnie Jackson.
00:06:05.900 Welcome to the Great America Show.
00:06:07.600 I know you've had questions about the president's cognitive condition for some time.
00:06:13.100 Out of your concern, you also asked that President Biden take a cognitive test and the White House
00:06:19.660 refused.
00:06:20.520 And in these latest polls now, most Americans agree with your concerns.
00:06:26.880 Well, you're absolutely right.
00:06:27.680 You know, I've been saying for a long time, even when he was candidate Joe Biden, I was
00:06:30.280 saying, I don't think I think there's something wrong with this man.
00:06:32.780 I don't think he's cognitively fit to be our commander in chief and our head of state.
00:06:36.880 And, you know, I was one of the few people saying it early on.
00:06:39.880 And then as time went on, but he's he's been on display for the entire country and for the
00:06:43.200 entire world.
00:06:43.720 Now we've seen firsthand, you know, some of the issues that he's having.
00:06:47.500 And it's just it started with Afghanistan.
00:06:50.020 And now this this debacle in in Ukraine where they could have done something early on.
00:06:54.560 They didn't.
00:06:55.360 And a large part of the reason that we didn't do more than we could have is that I just got
00:06:58.580 back from the security summit in Munich.
00:07:01.040 And I was shocked to find out that, you know, we're not we're not a leader on the world stage
00:07:04.800 anymore.
00:07:05.560 The European countries, NATO countries, they're not looking to us for leadership anymore
00:07:09.180 because mainly because Biden is supposed to be providing that.
00:07:12.760 And he's completely in company.
00:07:13.880 He looks frail.
00:07:14.440 He looks weak.
00:07:15.300 He looks incoherent.
00:07:16.860 And the whole world senses weakness right now.
00:07:19.380 And that's why we're in the situation we're in with Ukraine right now is because they see 0.97
00:07:22.740 this as a window of opportunity that won't last much longer.
00:07:25.400 And they're going to strike while the iron is hot.
00:07:27.260 You know, Putin's probably been wanting to do this for for a long, long time to kind of
00:07:30.360 start getting the old Soviet Union back together again.
00:07:32.520 And this is just a window of opportunity that he's going to take advantage of.
00:07:36.320 And, you know, President Xi's going to take advantage of it with Taiwan pretty soon.
00:07:39.220 The Iranians are going to get a nuclear weapon. 1.00
00:07:41.040 We're going to be tested across the board.
00:07:43.360 And, you know, Joe Biden fails every time we get tested.
00:07:46.300 And that's just what he's doing to us internationally.
00:07:48.380 I mean, he's destroying us in a domestic front, too.
00:07:50.760 And so I think that it's it's it's not a you know, it's not a joke.
00:07:55.400 This man's got some serious issues and he's doing great damage to our country and we need
00:07:59.820 to do something about it.
00:08:01.520 This issue of his cognitive ability, how would you say that compares then to the two presidents,
00:08:07.700 the three presidents that you cared for?
00:08:13.840 Well, I don't think they none of the three of them had any cognitive issues whatsoever.
00:08:17.300 They were they were all very motivated, very top a very but very impressive in their in
00:08:23.120 their abilities cognitively and, you know, and able to multitask and things like that.
00:08:27.320 I tell people all the time, you know, having seen three presidents and been, you know, been
00:08:31.280 the physician for three administrations, I know what it takes physically and mentally
00:08:35.200 to do this job.
00:08:36.120 And it's demanding.
00:08:37.280 I mean, a lot of people that don't have cognitive issues don't have the capacity to do this.
00:08:42.220 And certainly having a president who's diminished is a big problem for us because you do have
00:08:46.280 to be awake, alert for long for long hours.
00:08:49.380 You have to be able to travel all over the planet, multiple time zones, get off the plane,
00:08:53.300 multitask and negotiate with foreign leaders.
00:08:55.480 And there's just no way Joe Biden can do that right now.
00:08:57.860 And the whole world knows it.
00:08:58.820 You know, I wrote a letter, I guess, back in last June demanding that he have a cognitive
00:09:04.080 test, because when I was President Trump's position, the far left just demanded that
00:09:11.220 we have a cognitive test done.
00:09:12.760 And so I think the precedent's been set.
00:09:14.420 So I made the same demands of President Biden and it just hadn't happened yet.
00:09:18.020 But since then, public opinion has changed and over 60 percent of the country believes
00:09:22.580 that he's got a cognitive issue and he may not be fit to be our president.
00:09:26.100 You don't think for a moment there is a possibility he'll ever take a cognitive test,
00:09:30.300 do you, doctor?
00:09:31.360 I don't.
00:09:32.120 And, you know, I'm not even sure we need one anymore, to be honest with you, Lou.
00:09:34.840 I mean, he's been around.
00:09:35.920 He's shown us what he's all about for a while now.
00:09:38.340 And I think most people are convinced there's something there.
00:09:40.540 And I don't think a cognitive test would change that much for most people.
00:09:43.560 They kind of know what's going on.
00:09:44.760 I think a cognitive test would be appropriate as well for many of his national security team.
00:09:51.400 We learned that in the issue of Ukraine, that the United States, the Biden administration
00:09:58.100 turned to China for help with Russia because they've known for months that he would he would
00:10:04.080 invade Ukraine. 0.89
00:10:06.340 The Chinese then took that entreaty and the intelligence they shared with the Chinese to 0.92
00:10:11.760 the Russians.
00:10:12.740 I mean, what level of intelligence?
00:10:15.660 You know, it may not be just cognitive.
00:10:17.500 It may be simply IQ in this national security team. 0.99
00:10:22.040 Yeah, they're completely incompetent.
00:10:23.600 But they don't they don't know what they're doing.
00:10:25.220 And just like you said, taking our intelligence, sharing it with the Chinese and not assuming
00:10:29.880 that it was just going to end up right funneled immediately to the Russians, which you did.
00:10:33.480 And the Chinese and the Russians are both kind of using it against us now.
00:10:36.320 It's just they just have a basic misunderstanding of of how things work.
00:10:41.080 I mean, you know, I don't get it at all.
00:10:43.920 I just really don't.
00:10:44.840 They we need we need better leadership.
00:10:46.520 And people all the time are telling me like, well, Ronnie, what are you doing?
00:10:49.260 You know, you're trying to you know, you're talking about President Biden's cognitive issues
00:10:53.040 and making a case for why he shouldn't be the president anymore. 0.98
00:10:55.800 Well, are you crazy?
00:10:56.960 Because Kamala Harris is going to follow him if that happens. 0.93
00:10:59.280 I will tell you, I cannot imagine that she can do anything that's worse than what he's
00:11:03.920 doing to our country right now.
00:11:05.940 So, you know, I don't think she's a she's a she's a better a better choice. 0.95
00:11:09.480 But I don't think she's going to damage this country any more than Joe Biden's doing
00:11:12.580 as we speak.
00:11:13.660 Yeah, it's a difficult it's a very difficult assessment.
00:11:19.260 Because she is always unprepared or perhaps limited in her own fashion, because she does
00:11:26.900 not just does not command the subject matter, nor give anyone confidence that she knows 0.80
00:11:34.080 what she's doing at any time on any subject.
00:11:37.140 We know she's lazy. 1.00
00:11:38.560 We figured that out.
00:11:39.800 You know, some reports coming from the White House.
00:11:41.520 She doesn't have much of a work ethic, which is a problem. 1.00
00:11:43.760 And I saw her speak at Munich.
00:11:45.360 And it was it was embarrassing.
00:11:46.900 It was like listening to a teenager talk about what's going on in Russia and Ukraine.
00:11:51.580 It was very.
00:11:53.200 I had the same reaction to the videos of her performance that I've seen.
00:11:59.620 Disappointing, to say the least.
00:12:01.580 Let's turn to Ukraine.
00:12:03.220 And as a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, your thoughts on what this country should be
00:12:09.320 doing and, if you will, the situation as you see it right now in Ukraine.
00:12:17.160 Well, like I said, Lou, I think our biggest problem is that we don't we don't have a leadership
00:12:20.680 role in this anymore, whether it's with European countries or whether it's NATO.
00:12:24.540 No one's following our lead anymore.
00:12:26.000 We're just kind of following their lead.
00:12:28.240 And they're fractured right now.
00:12:29.680 Nobody's on the same page.
00:12:30.680 And I sense that in a big way when I was at the security conference in Munich.
00:12:34.780 But I think that a lot of what we could have done early on, it's not available to us anymore.
00:12:39.680 People were talking about Democrats were talking about, well, you can't use the sanctions.
00:12:43.460 Then you give away our negotiating tool. 0.99
00:12:45.040 That was such garbage. 0.99
00:12:46.100 You could have put the sanctions on them. 1.00
00:12:47.660 You could have sanctioned Putin individually.
00:12:49.240 You could sanction Russian oil and gas.
00:12:51.160 You could have sanctioned the Russian banking system, all of this stuff.
00:12:53.820 And you could have done it when they amassed 200,000 troops, almost 200,000 troops on the
00:12:57.980 on the Ukrainian border.
00:12:59.260 You could have said, we're putting these sanctions in place and they'll be removed when you pull
00:13:03.120 your troops off the border and stop threatening Ukraine.
00:13:05.680 That's how it should have worked.
00:13:06.800 And, you know, we would probably would never even got to that point if Donald J.
00:13:10.220 Trump had still been the president because, you know, they feared the man that, you know,
00:13:14.040 if he said he was going to do something, they knew that he was going to do it.
00:13:16.520 They saw him as as decisive and a little bit unpredictable, which was good for us, but unpredictable
00:13:21.000 in a good way, a way that that, you know, that ensured our national security.
00:13:25.300 We don't have that with Joe Biden.
00:13:26.880 They have no respect for him whatsoever.
00:13:28.320 And so I don't know what's left for us to do other than bolster up some of the NATO countries
00:13:32.900 and, you know, increase the troop numbers there.
00:13:34.840 And but this is how wars get started, to be honest with you, because we can start heading
00:13:38.120 down this pathway.
00:13:38.860 So I'm worried that Joe Biden and his inability to lead and his cognitive issues are going to
00:13:43.600 continue to get worse and things are going to escalate and he's going to end up
00:13:47.060 getting us into a war.
00:13:48.080 What message do you believe he sent to Ukrainians as he sees the United States step aside instead
00:13:54.880 of step up, as has always been the custom of the United States?
00:13:59.480 I'm the last person in this country wants to have a war.
00:14:02.380 But at the same time, I am the last person in the country or among the last who want us
00:14:08.440 to do nothing.
00:14:09.820 There has to be an approach forward that will be supportive of these brave Ukrainians.
00:14:14.760 I hope so.
00:14:16.320 I hope we can still get some some some armaments and things of that nature to them.
00:14:20.240 You know, we could have done that early on.
00:14:21.560 Right now, they're actually putting up a pretty good fight right now.
00:14:24.620 And everything they're using right now against the Russians, it came from the Trump administration
00:14:28.280 stuff that he put there, you know, javelin missile or javelins and stinger missiles and
00:14:32.680 things of that nature.
00:14:33.360 Those are mostly from the Trump era that we've got there, because I'm on I'm on foreign affairs
00:14:36.820 and armed services.
00:14:37.920 And we've had discussions about this over the last few months.
00:14:40.700 And this they were coming out and they were saying, you know, well, the State Department
00:14:43.940 was engineering some of this and like we're going to between State Department and DOD,
00:14:48.680 we're going to get them some first aid kits and things of that nature.
00:14:52.320 We weren't providing anything.
00:14:53.600 You know, we was kind of back in the old in the Obama era where we were providing blankets
00:14:57.340 and MREs and things of that nature.
00:14:59.460 That's not what they need.
00:15:00.700 A weapon.
00:15:01.160 They need weapons systems to defend themselves.
00:15:03.240 And the only ones they currently have right now are ones that they got from the Trump
00:15:06.120 administration.
00:15:06.540 But hopefully we can find a way to continue to support them in that regard.
00:15:10.180 It's going to be harder now because when we start, you know, rolling in weapons systems
00:15:14.000 that are killing Russian troops in Ukraine, you got to wonder at what point does Putin
00:15:19.420 decide that that we're at war with him.
00:15:21.640 So it's very dicey right now, but a lot of it is Joe Biden's making.
00:15:26.080 Yeah, it is.
00:15:26.840 And it is a disaster again and a disaster for his administration, but unfortunately also
00:15:32.860 one for the Ukrainian people.
00:15:36.000 Congressman, I really appreciate you being with us.
00:15:38.900 I have to say it's frustrating, I'm sure, for nearly all Americans to witness what is
00:15:44.600 happening.
00:15:45.560 This country has now devolved to a level of governance.
00:15:50.820 governance that we don't do the right thing.
00:15:54.080 We wait to see if our name's on a piece of paper that binds us to the Ukrainians.
00:16:00.100 And if it says no, then we step back.
00:16:03.120 And if it says yes, we still step back, whether it's a 1994 Budapest memorandum or, you know,
00:16:11.180 just simple decency.
00:16:12.520 It seems we have a leader who makes the same choices, irrespective.
00:16:18.640 Ronnie Jackson, thanks so much.
00:16:20.120 We always give the last word to our guests.
00:16:22.740 You get the concluding thoughts.
00:16:25.580 Thank you.
00:16:26.120 Thank you, Lou.
00:16:26.540 I appreciate it.
00:16:27.180 I just want to tell the American people, you know, there's hope on the horizon.
00:16:30.680 We're going to win the House back in 2022.
00:16:32.500 The Republicans will.
00:16:33.640 And we're going to officially be able to stop some of this stuff.
00:16:35.880 And we're going to fight hard over the next year or two to get our country back.
00:16:38.940 And we're going to make America great again.
00:16:40.980 Well, God bless you.
00:16:42.000 Thank you for being with us, Congressman, Doctor, and Admiral.
00:16:45.840 We appreciate it.
00:16:47.460 Ronnie Jackson.
00:16:47.800 Thank you, Lou.
00:16:48.440 Appreciate you.
00:16:49.380 Thanks so much.
00:16:50.400 As I said at the outset of our show today, there is great urgency to get assistance to
00:16:55.540 the Ukrainians.
00:16:56.540 And with us today to give us perspective on the battles and cities and towns of Ukraine,
00:17:01.580 the fighting in their streets and the bombardments and bewildered and frightened people still
00:17:06.480 in hiding, seeking safety wherever they can.
00:17:10.020 Our next guest is Corey Mills.
00:17:11.660 He's a decorated combat veteran, 82nd Airborne, awarded the Bronze Star, worked with the State
00:17:18.240 Department and other government agencies, now running for Congress in Florida, endorsed
00:17:23.140 by Congressman Jim Jordan, the most endorsed congressional candidate, in fact, running.
00:17:29.060 Corey Mills, good to have you here.
00:17:31.580 On the Great America Show.
00:17:34.220 The fight's getting tougher for the Ukrainians.
00:17:36.860 A lot of military analysts didn't expect the Ukrainians to equip themselves this well
00:17:41.900 to fight this hard against the Russian forces.
00:17:45.320 Your reaction?
00:17:46.700 Well, I got to be honest, Lou.
00:17:48.060 I'm actually not as surprised as others.
00:17:50.560 Now, bear in mind, I was in Ukraine in 2015, and I was talking and working around with a volunteer
00:17:56.760 battalion called the Nepoda Battalion.
00:17:58.220 And they're based on a network of Joe's and their job was to ensure that the invasion
00:18:03.860 that had already occurred under the Obama Biden administration into Donetsk, where they
00:18:08.160 also annexed Crimea, did not expand any further.
00:18:11.380 Now, these were individuals who they were not supported like it was under President Trump,
00:18:16.020 where lethal aid was rendered.
00:18:16.980 This is under the Obama Biden administration when humanitarian aid for Band-Aids and blankets was
00:18:21.480 the only thing that was being provided.
00:18:23.200 So these warfighters, these patriots, these volunteers were selling their homes, selling
00:18:27.140 their businesses, selling their personal belongings and trying to go to surrounding areas who are
00:18:32.480 utilizing close to the same nonstandard ammunitions and then fighting the fight on their own.
00:18:37.260 So we knew the pride of these people, the resolve of these people since 2015.
00:18:42.960 And it wasn't until President Trump, until we approved that lethal aid to get in stinger
00:18:47.900 missiles, to get in anti-tank missiles like the Javelin systems.
00:18:51.200 And I always, I kind of joke around, but this really is part of the Trump resistance.
00:18:54.940 I mean, those weapons that are being utilized are things that was delivered during the Trump
00:18:58.140 administration.
00:18:59.040 And unfortunately, there has not been a whole lot of support from a weakened Biden administration.
00:19:03.100 And there has been very little support from the NATO countries, the European Union.
00:19:08.580 It is remarkable to me, at least, that those countries in direct proximity, contiguous to,
00:19:16.040 in fact, Ukraine, would not be amongst the first to step up and provide aid, to provide
00:19:22.880 military material, weapons, ordnance, you name it, for these people to stand up against the
00:19:30.380 Russians.
00:19:31.160 Why not?
00:19:31.720 Well, again, you got to think about the fact that, look at Germany as an example, a key
00:19:36.460 member of the NATO and the UN.
00:19:38.940 They are so dependent upon Russian oil and gas at this stage, after the two decades of
00:19:43.820 getting rid of any type of nuclear and even coal energy, that they really would suffer
00:19:48.220 as a result of their fracture between Russian oil and gas and the EU.
00:19:52.560 So what the American government and everyone else had failed to do was decouple the EU.
00:19:57.180 And again, this really was amplified when you start talking about the fact that it was Joe
00:20:01.600 Biden and his administration who lifted the sanctions necessary for Nord Stream 2.
00:20:06.120 But let's go a step further.
00:20:07.600 We're actually funding our own adversaries, Lou.
00:20:10.260 I mean, you think about the fact that in October of 2017, we were importing around 17,000
00:20:15.240 barrels of oil from Russia.
00:20:17.120 You fast forward that to October of 2021.
00:20:20.180 We were already up to 217,000 barrels during this time.
00:20:24.500 So we're literally funding adversarial nations.
00:20:27.140 Well, and by the way, it isn't simply Russia that we are funding. 0.99
00:20:31.620 We built communist China with our idiotic trade policies, our insane relationship with the 1.00
00:20:40.200 Chinese and the resulting dependency of this nation on China for nearly every product, but 1.00
00:20:46.760 97 percent of our pharmaceuticals.
00:20:49.880 And the list goes on.
00:20:51.360 It is embarrassing, and it should be troubling to everyone who cares about the national security
00:20:55.680 of the United States.
00:20:58.060 I want to get your assessment right now of what could be done.
00:21:04.580 And let's start with the United States.
00:21:06.660 Should the United States and this administration, for whatever reason, understand the courage
00:21:11.840 like the Ukrainians are displaying every day, they have to have support.
00:21:20.600 And how could we, in all conscience and morality, not support them against a despot and a tyrannical
00:21:27.100 regime in Russia?
00:21:29.540 Well, I'll tell you, it's interesting that you bring up the point of kind of America's,
00:21:33.660 you know, dedication or obligation that's on there.
00:21:36.340 I have to go back to recalling on the Budapest memorandum, which the Federation of Russia
00:21:43.100 had signed, which the UK, Northern Ireland had signed, Ukraine, as well as for America.
00:21:47.660 You know, we were one of the tentatories on this.
00:21:50.120 Back in 1994.
00:21:50.400 That's exactly right.
00:21:52.120 That's right.
00:21:52.640 And originally, you know, the idea was it was a nuclear non-proliferation agreement.
00:21:56.120 But in that agreement, it's very explicit in the fact that we will honor, respect and
00:21:59.420 defend the sovereignty in the borders of Ukraine.
00:22:01.720 When the Federation of Russia invaded in 2014, the Obama administration, which I always call
00:22:07.220 this the Obama 2.0 model, but the Obama administration should have gone forward and levied
00:22:12.220 actions against this.
00:22:13.300 That would allow them to start sanctioning with regards to the five major state banks,
00:22:17.000 freezing the assets of the three major oligarchs, cutting off the SWIFT, which would prevent
00:22:20.980 the incoming and the outgoing transfer of funds, and also go ahead and levy heavier sanctions
00:22:27.300 against the oil and gas utilizations in the EU.
00:22:29.780 We missed that opportunity.
00:22:30.920 So now what we need to be looking at is obviously looking at locking up the SWIFT capabilities
00:22:36.620 of Russia, looking at the United States.
00:22:39.400 Sorry, go ahead.
00:22:39.880 Excuse me, Corey.
00:22:40.560 I just wanted to interject.
00:22:41.880 SWIFT is the international financial information clearinghouse for import, exports, and trade between
00:22:50.300 nations.
00:22:50.900 And primarily purposely is the source of about 50 percent, if not 60 percent of Russia's revenue.
00:23:03.860 That's exactly right.
00:23:04.960 The other thing that we must do at this time is we're going to understand very quickly how
00:23:10.100 much of the actual Ukrainian airspace is being dominated and controlled by Russia.
00:23:14.380 This domination of the airspace will impact our ability to try and help with additional
00:23:19.240 lethal aid or additional munitions and defense products.
00:23:21.900 So now we're going to have to start looking at the Western Front, where we start looking
00:23:25.320 at pushing things through ground supply with Poland.
00:23:27.820 And that becomes a whole different issue in itself.
00:23:29.880 Listen, I know how difficult overland supply chain is because my team and I actually, and
00:23:36.400 I'm not sure if you remember this, Lou, but we actually conducted the very first overland
00:23:39.880 rescue of Americans out of Afghanistan, the mother and her three children.
00:23:43.100 And that could have been a much easier thing if we did the airlift.
00:23:46.600 But I'll tell you, I think that this is going to come to insurgency based warfare, guerrilla
00:23:51.600 based tactics.
00:23:52.800 We have to bog them down very similar to what happened to them with Chechnya and also what
00:23:56.260 happened to them in Afghanistan.
00:23:57.600 And it has to be such a costly war for Vladimir Putin that this actually becomes domestically
00:24:02.980 unpopular.
00:24:03.460 But we have to also look at one more quick thing, if I may, which is we need to look at the
00:24:08.040 fact that this is the great superpower resurgence and that China, Russia and Iran,
00:24:13.100 are completely interlinked.
00:24:14.920 China is looking to advance their one belt, one road initiative.
00:24:18.600 This is essentially like a maritime silk route.
00:24:20.980 And in order to do that, they have to expand their borders for Eurasia.
00:24:24.220 They have to take over Africa and have to control Oceania. 0.99
00:24:26.920 Russia is helping them to advance that Eurasian border so that they can go ahead and create 0.99
00:24:31.020 and establish this so they can control more on the trade, more on the resources and more
00:24:35.440 on the economic warfare against America.
00:24:37.500 This is why we have to get back to increasing and promoting domestic production and locking our
00:24:41.260 borders.
00:24:42.520 Absolutely.
00:24:42.800 And domestic production and also our national security, which is absolutely critical.
00:24:50.660 We have to remove our dependence on China, on any other nation for our critical strategic 0.93
00:24:56.020 materials, supplies, and products and services that we desperately need in this country.
00:25:02.800 We don't have a supply chain disruption. 0.98
00:25:05.080 We have the consequences of an idiotic decision 30 years ago by corporate America to offshore production, 0.97
00:25:11.760 to cheap labor markets, to outsource good-paying American middle-class jobs, to overseas markets 0.99
00:25:18.820 and arbitrage labor prices. 0.73
00:25:21.020 It is disgusting.
00:25:22.240 It's appalling. 0.95
00:25:23.040 And that it took years for Donald Trump to appear on the political scene and to actually
00:25:30.040 seize on these issues and take them up and defend the country and absolutely put America
00:25:36.700 first.
00:25:37.760 It, to me, is a terrific policy and should be a required policy of any president, but he happened
00:25:44.120 to be anomalous in this chain of leaders that, well, we can go into the history later.
00:25:49.600 I want your assessment as to what we need to do right now to help those brave Ukrainians who are fighting the Russians, a superior firepower, superior
00:25:58.960 everything, what can they, what can we do for them?
00:26:04.100 Well, I'll tell you, I think that we need to listen to what President Zelensky, a true leader, by the way, I'm, I'm exceptionally impressed with, with President
00:26:11.060 Zelensky, who had the ability to leave the country and said, no, I don't need a ride.
00:26:16.260 I need more ammunition.
00:26:17.380 So I think that it's very clear what they need is additional lethal aid.
00:26:20.820 We need to rush in, you know, and support them from an air defense system, whether that's from Poland or whether that's just across the border.
00:26:26.160 We have to get the necessary javelin and the stinger systems in there, which would take down aircraft, take down tanks.
00:26:32.140 Again, we need to arm and equip Ukraine to bog down Russia and prevent their further incursions. 0.91
00:26:37.940 And to be clear to everyone on this issue, Biden administration decisions in the first months were to slow walk every piece of aid, military aid to Ukraine.
00:26:51.940 It's not an accident.
00:26:52.920 It's not a coincidence.
00:26:54.400 It's and it is not just simply a regrettable error of judgment.
00:26:58.280 This is this will be examined in history and it will be part of the Biden legacy.
00:27:04.220 How fast could we do all of what you're recommending?
00:27:07.940 I mean, we could do it immediately.
00:27:09.620 And I'll tell you right now, part of that slowdown, as you're talking about, Lou, we have to contribute it to where it really comes from.
00:27:16.260 Yes, it's from Joe Biden, who, you know, Secretary Gates told us long ago had been wrong on foreign policy 100 percent of the time.
00:27:23.680 But what this is about, this is the only for 40 years in the military.
00:27:27.460 Oh, yes.
00:27:27.800 Only for 47 plus years for being technical.
00:27:30.440 But, you know, the thing is, is that we have to look at the fact that the new conservatives who are wanting to be warmongers and continues to be a interventionist.
00:27:37.940 And these military industrial complexes, they benefit massively when diplomacy fails.
00:27:41.880 So we need to look at the fact of where this info and all these, you know, kind of false narratives that, oh, they're not going to invade and, oh, we're going to put in the heavy levied sanctions to prevent this.
00:27:51.160 Look, this was all a farce.
00:27:52.500 The Biden administration knew what was going to take place.
00:27:54.680 And I think that they're so compromised when it comes to Hunter Biden and the rest that they weren't willing to actually take strong action like President Trump was.
00:28:01.840 Why would we have leaders in the form of Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy?
00:28:11.460 Why would we have leaders who think you have to have your name on a piece of paper to do the right thing?
00:28:16.740 Why would that be?
00:28:17.720 Have we really descended to that level in the United States of America?
00:28:24.040 I can tell you right now what we are absolutely witnessing is a crisis in leadership.
00:28:28.900 We are looking at the fact that we are not leading by example.
00:28:31.940 We're looking at the fact that we are weaker from a national security perspective than I think we've ever been in my lifetime.
00:28:38.000 And so you look at what's going on right now.
00:28:40.060 You have North Korea launching hypersonic missiles, which is a Chinese technology. 0.98
00:28:44.160 You have China, who has now surpassed America with regards to the number of naval vessels that are actually able to launch.
00:28:50.200 You have a buildup in the South China Sea.
00:28:52.400 You have threats on Taiwan.
00:28:53.940 You have the botched withdrawal in Afghanistan that left $1.3 trillion in lithium to China, as well as for other precious minerals and a very geopolitically strong position with Bagram Air Base.
00:29:03.500 You have Yemen, who is basically starting to allow the Houthis to launch more attacks against the UAE, who was one of the original signatories on the Abrams Accord.
00:29:12.040 These types of things.
00:29:13.740 And now, believe it or not, we're actually talking about re-entering the JCPOA, who, by the way, is over 60% nuclear enrichment, almost to a weapons grade for the regime in Iran, the largest state sponsor of terror. 0.78
00:29:23.840 So you look at this and you contrast that to just over a year ago, when we had President Donald Trump in there, where he withdrawed us from these failed agreements like the JCPOA or Resolution 2231.
00:29:36.300 He withdrew us from the failed Russian agreement with the INF Treaty.
00:29:40.260 He put stronger sanctions and more levies against China to make sure that we offset those trade imbalances.
00:29:46.400 You know, he did more for peace deals and peace accords than any of the previous administrations and by all rights should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize, by the way, if it wasn't so politicized.
00:29:56.300 But right now, what we have is a complete crisis in leadership, Lou.
00:29:59.580 We don't have anyone who's willing to lead from the front.
00:30:02.020 We don't have anyone who's willing to take those necessary precautions.
00:30:04.320 I think that we're so far down the road now that any American involvement is just going to exacerbate the situation with Russia.
00:30:10.020 I think that we need to allow Poland and the U.K. and other U.N. members and NATO members to actually take the lead with the U.S. probably supporting them, because here's the reality.
00:30:19.700 We were first at the ball and we balked it.
00:30:22.260 We did not do what was necessary.
00:30:25.420 What do you think will happen?
00:30:27.120 Do you think that we can mount a supply chain into Ukraine and move humanitarian aid and weaponry and all sorts of necessary military material to the Ukrainians?
00:30:42.120 Yes, we can.
00:30:43.900 But the biggest fear that I have personally, Lou, is that I just watched the humanitarian or as the Biden administration called the most successful operational airlift in history, where they were bringing in 83 and over 83,000 unvetted Afghans into America.
00:30:59.780 I do not want to see this same exact thing occur where we have Russian plants and we have different types of covert military operations that are being conducted in a false flag narrative that are going into Poland, going into Belarus, going into all the neighboring countries that are allowing the Ukrainians to come out, only to go ahead and put a footbed in there to start launching and further attack.
00:31:20.120 So I think that we have to be very cautious in our humanitarian support.
00:31:23.760 We have to ensure that we're doing some type of a vetting somewhere.
00:31:26.300 And the difference, however, with this in Afghanistan is that, you know, the Afghans were completely borderlocked where none of the countries were allowing them in.
00:31:33.960 The Ukrainians have a whole different picture. 1.00
00:31:35.700 They do have allies in the area.
00:31:37.540 They do have nations who are supporting them.
00:31:39.600 And I think that it's very, very feasible to get the necessary arms in under a lethal aid agreement to help support and to help supply Ukraine to be able to fight this war.
00:31:48.040 This war, do you think that this will do you think that Vladimir Putin intends that this invasion and this war on Ukraine will expand to Belarus, to the Baltic states, to Poland, to to Eastern Europe?
00:32:06.060 I don't think that Vladimir Putin, and again, I could be wrong on this.
00:32:11.420 I mean, I don't know his level of insanity and overall tyrannical, you know, dictatorship policies.
00:32:16.840 But I will say this.
00:32:18.080 I don't see him necessarily stepping on NATO toes to enact the Article 5 agreement.
00:32:23.120 I think that if you activated Article 5 and all the people who are signatories and who are on NATO would have to actually respond with boots on the ground or further firepower.
00:32:30.520 I think he knows that's a lost cause, but I think he will push the borders just like he did in 2014, putting a toe in the water, seeing how far he can go, seeing how far he can push, but not violating NATO to enact the actual Article 5 agreement.
00:32:43.060 Corey Mills, thanks for being with us.
00:32:45.120 A great American, a great patriot running for the United States Congress from the 7th District of Florida.
00:32:52.320 We wish you luck and look forward to our next conversation.
00:32:55.860 Thank you so much.
00:32:56.740 Thank you so much, Lou.
00:32:57.800 Such an honor.
00:32:58.380 Thanks, Corey, and thanks to everybody listening today to The Great America Show.
00:33:03.900 Please join us tomorrow as we continue our analysis and discussion of the Ukrainian crisis and its implications for our great nation.
00:33:13.480 God bless you and God bless America.
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