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- December 14, 2021
NO GOP VOTES FOR BBB AND FAUCI'S FALSE VAX CLAIMS
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody, and thanks for being with us for this episode of The Great America Show.
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We're watching a lot of extraordinary events unfolding around the world,
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and I can tell you those developments are raising concerns in nearly every major capital in Europe
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and Asia, and yes, Washington, D.C. as well.
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And not only because President Biden and Vladimir Putin are talking now about why Putin has put
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almost 200,000 of his troops on his western border with his tanks pointed directly toward Ukraine.
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No, there's considerable agitation as well over the purported warning from Biden to Putin.
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Biden threatening Putin with more sanctions if he invades Ukraine.
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Now, that's quite a statement, isn't it?
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I have quite a few reservations about the Biden warning, threat, or if you wish, ultimatum,
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that he's delivered to Putin in the midst of a crisis that could easily explode into open conflict
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between Russia, Europe, and the United States.
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Among those reservations, Biden has already warned Putin through his Secretary of State,
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Anthony Blinken, and that warning didn't go well.
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Blinken met face-to-face with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov last week.
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By all accounts, the meeting was closer to a cage match, though, than a civil exchange
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between diplomats representing world powers.
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Perhaps lost on this Biden administration is the memory of the Obama-Biden administration,
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and that administration sanctions against Russia as punishment when Russia took all of Crimea
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from Ukraine and then annexed it to Russia.
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That was six years ago.
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There's been no discernible effect on Russia, and Crimea is indisputably now part of Russia.
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That brings up my final concern.
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Sanctions, in fact, are a fraudulent response to almost any aggression, but certainly Russian aggression,
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because those sanctions have never, ever worked, and they never will.
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And we shouldn't dismiss the Russian advantage in Ukraine.
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There's no reason at all to believe the Europeans have the stomach, the will, the manpower, or weaponry
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with which to stand up to the aggressions of Putin in Ukraine.
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And with Biden in the White House and Merkel gone, the West has no obvious leadership,
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which only adds to the long line of reasons that the United States should not be making warnings
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or putting forward ultimatums that it can't enforce.
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At home, we also have reason for hesitation under the Biden administration.
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The Senate may be working its way to a vote on at least $2 trillion of spending
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in the Biden-backed Build Back Better bill.
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That's six alliterative words in a row.
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Aren't you proud of me?
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And that's about the best I can say for the mess of a legislative package
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that has the modest mission of coming up with $2 trillion
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with which to overhaul.
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Are you ready for this list?
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Health care, education, climate, immigration, oh, yes, and taxes, all before Christmas.
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Now, you know that's going to be thoughtful legislation
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and just seriously targeted, targeted spending.
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Joining us is one of the senators who's been in the Senate for a decade,
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one of the smartest, most principled, and original thinkers, in my opinion,
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not only in the Senate, but in all of Washington,
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a constitutional conservative, and a great American.
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Senator Rand Paul, welcome to the Great America Show.
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We appreciate you being with us.
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I'm glad to be with you, Dave.
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Let's start first, if we may, with the bill for that $2 trillion or so of spending.
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Where does that stand?
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I think it's important to know that there'll be no Republican votes for it
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in the House or in the Senate.
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We don't have this money.
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It'll be simply borrowed.
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We have a lot of pressure right now with inflation out there in the grocery store
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and at the gas pump, which is all coming from borrowing too much money.
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So the answer isn't to borrow more money.
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So no Republicans will support this.
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It's not even a given yet that all the Democrats support it.
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And in the Senate, they require every Democrat.
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You know, Senator Manchin from West Virginia has been saying,
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well, he's worried about inflation, like a lot of us are,
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and that he thinks they should hold off till the spring.
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They're going to force a vote, but it'll be interesting to see how Manchin and Sinema vote on this.
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The bottom line is it's bad for the country.
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It's more borrowing, and it'll lead to more inflation next year.
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It's extraordinary to me that the Biden administration is insisting on $2 trillion
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in spending with these huge policy areas that I just recited,
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which should take careful consideration, thought, even hearings, perhaps.
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And to add $2 trillion to the national debt right now at a time when we're trying to reduce
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inflationary pressure seems to be the inverse of what would be sound of fiscal and monetary policy.
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Yeah, people have to realize that just our ordinary expenditures,
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Medicare, Social Security, food stamps, military,
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the ordinary expenditures of government lead to about a trillion dollar deficit every year.
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We spend a trillion more than we bring in, even for the stuff we kind of agree on.
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But then last year, we added a couple extra trillion to that.
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So we had about a $3 trillion deficit last year.
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This year, we're at about three now before we get to the two more trillion they want to add.
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But this is incredibly irresponsible.
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And I think there's a danger not only of getting double-digit inflation,
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but there is some danger that we could cause a panic
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and people could lose confidence in the dollar.
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And I'm more concerned about a cataclysmic fleeing of the dollar than just the inflation.
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But even double-digit inflation, though, ends up stealing from the working class
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and from those on pensions because inflation hurts people with lower incomes
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or fixed incomes the worst.
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And as you know, hyperinflation, which is certainly what double-digit inflation would be,
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is entirely possible because we're seeing prices rising here as the year winds down very quickly.
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Social Security was supposed to have just about a 6% adjustment in the cost of living.
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That could be more than wiped out if the most recent rates of increase in inflation continue.
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How concerned should everybody be about what is arguably the advent of a period of high, if not hyperinflation?
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Well, this is one of the things that even our founding fathers were worried about
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in the idea as we get closer and closer to a pure democracy unbounded by a constitution.
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The intention was from our founding fathers that, yes, you'd get to vote, you would have representatives,
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but they could only do certain things because government was only empowered to do certain things.
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And the powers not given to the federal government were supposed to be left to the states and the people.
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But we now have largely a democracy unbounded by a constitution.
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Government can do whatever it wants.
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And as a consequence, people vote for more stuff for themselves.
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And so we have a government where one political party says, hey, we're going to give you free stuff.
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And people are like, well, hey, I like free stuff.
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I like $1,400 checks or $2,500 checks.
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Isn't that great to get things for free?
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But the real rub is it's a bait and switch.
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It really is nothing free in life.
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What they get is they get an initial sort of like a junkie.
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You get the high, but then the repercussions are down the road.
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And that's what we're seeing already in the repercussions of you.
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You will pay for all the so-called free stuff through inflation.
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But I predict it gets worse before it gets better,
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because I don't see fiscal discipline up here, certainly not from the Democrats.
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But unfortunately, even Republicans are a mixed lot on their concern for deficits.
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Absolutely.
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And the rationalization has been for many so-called rhinos in the Republican Party.
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They could say, well, it was because of the Wuhan virus, the China virus, COVID-19 virus.
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And it's a national emergency.
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And indeed, it was.
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But that emergency has abated.
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And we are in a new phase of dealing with that pandemic, certainly in my judgment,
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and I think in the judgment of most virologists who I respect.
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And to think that they want to continue with their authoritarian imperatives, whether it be mask
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wearing, whether it be vaccination mandates, or whether kids go to school or don't go to
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school, and what will be the post-pandemic normal routine, all of that has excited, it seems,
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the left with its, I think, authoritarian impulses.
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What do you think?
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You know, it's all based on a big lie.
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The big lie, if you watch CNN, which I don't really recommend, but if you watch CNN for even
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30 seconds, they'll tell you not enough people have been vaccinated.
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But it's an incredibly big and malicious lie.
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The CDC website, I looked at it just this morning, people over age 75, 97% of people have
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voluntarily chosen to be vaccinated.
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Between the age of 64 and 75, 99% of people have chosen voluntarily to be vaccinated.
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From age 50 to 64, 87%.
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So the overwhelming, not just majority, the vast majority of all people who are at risk
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for this have chosen voluntarily to get vaccinated.
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The only reason the numbers aren't 100% for the public is many people at low risk, like
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children, who either weren't approved for it or their parents deem them to be at low
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risk, have made a decision not to get vaccinated.
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But the thing is, it is based all on a lie.
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This vaccine and the voluntary acceptance of it has been probably greater than any other
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voluntary choice of anything in a democracy that I've ever heard of.
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So it's a decided success, and I think we can get through this, but Fauci's spreading
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of disinformation has forced us now, you know, they're talking about mandating this for children
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before they leave the hospital.
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That's their next step.
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And I think that's a terrible idea.
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What happened over the course of this pandemic that children were not being affected, that
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only anyone getting sick, of course, I shouldn't say only, but a very, very strong
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small percentage of children ever got sick from it, let alone were hospitalized or died from
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it.
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Whatever happened to that?
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And why is it suddenly urgent that children five years to 12 suddenly have to have this
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vaccine?
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I think it's very important that people look at the facts and that we hear the truth about
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this.
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In Sweden, there are 1.8 million children between the ages of, you know, five and 16, sort of
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school-aged children.
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They don't wear masks in schools at all and haven't worn masks, and there have been zero
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deaths among kids in this age range.
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In addition, people say, well, what about the teachers?
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Are the kids infecting the teachers?
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If you look at the incidence of the infection in teachers in Sweden where they don't wear masks,
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it's about the same as every other profession in Sweden.
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So there really is a lot of science and evidence.
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If you look in Florida, half the people obeyed DeSantis' order not to do a mask mandate.
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The other half of the counties had a mask mandate.
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When you compare the masked schools to the unmasked schools in Florida over the same period
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of time, incidence of the disease about the same.
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So we need to really explore the evidence in an objective way, because if we don't, I think
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we're in danger of really letting these infringements on our liberty never, you know, never leave
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us.
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We're going to be stuck with big government telling us to mask up everywhere.
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You know, my wife and I, we're in the target demographic.
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And so we did what those people you cited, 99% of getting a vaccination.
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We had both our vaccinations.
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We had our booster shots, but we didn't do so because we were persuaded by particular health
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authorities.
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We were, we did it because we studied it and we made a decision based on what we thought
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were the risk and the probabilities and, uh, and the reward.
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Uh, and I think that's what most people did in this country.
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I've never seen a situation where people thought that it was appropriate for the government to
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mandate without so much as rigorous, uh, examination of the evidence and an explanation and an attempt
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to persuade people of what they thought based on the science, the evidence would be the right
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choice.
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Uh, this, this is a government that doesn't think it can lead, doesn't think it can persuade.
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So it is mandating.
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Do you have the same impression?
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It's very unscientific to, uh, treat different people from different age groups, the exact same
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way.
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So if you're 80 years old, you have a 10,000 times greater chance of dying from COVID than
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a 10 year old.
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So it's a different disease for a 10 year old and an 80 year old.
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There's one important thing that we should be asking before you vaccinate your children.
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One thing we know is if you've already had the disease, you get a thousand times greater
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immune response.
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If you've already had COVID and then you get a vaccine, if you're 75 or 80, that might be
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good.
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It might be having had the disease and having a vaccine might be good for you.
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But if you're 10, it may be that the, um, exuberance of this immune response that's elicited for
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kids who've already had COVID may be something that's related to some of these immune reactions
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to the heart, either myocarditis or pericarditis.
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It'd be fairly easy to study, but Dr. Fauci refuses to study the question.
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You could take the blood.
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Let's say there's a couple of hundred kids who have had myocarditis.
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You could actually study their blood and find out if they'd already had COVID.
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If it turns out that it's the same as the general public and there's no increased risk,
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then we'd learn something.
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But I really want to know if you've already had COVID and you're a child and you get vaccinated,
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are you at increased risk for the myocarditis if you've already had the disease?
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If that's true, each kid could get a blood test before they get vaccinated to see if they've
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already had COVID.
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One, they'd know whether they need a vaccine, but then two, they might know whether they're
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at high risk for these side effects.
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But Fauci refuses to look at any of this.
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And that's why I think it's basically, uh, his advice is malpractice.
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It is, it is really as a citizen, it's, uh, disconcerting to watch a, uh, public, uh, health
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official that is Dr. Anthony Foucher talking to a U S Senator in this case, you and being
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dismissive, rude, arrogant, and unyielding, uh, as you raise highly intelligent, thoughtful
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questions about the welfare of our, our nation.
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How can that be tolerated by, uh, by the leadership, uh, of both parties in the Senate?
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It shouldn't be, he should have been fired long ago for lying to Congress.
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Uh, he did lie about, uh, the fact that he was, uh, funding through the NIH, the lab in
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Wuhan, the lab where in all likelihood this virus came from that he was funding it, but
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he was also funding very dangerous experiments where they create viruses that don't exist in
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nature and then they test them to see if they're more dangerous.
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This is a foolish, foolish, uh, enterprise and we shouldn't allow it, but we've still
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had yet to have one investigative committee hearing on this.
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I've been asking for this for nine months now, and the Democrats refuse to hear this at all.
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But if we take over in 2022, I'll be in charge of the health committee.
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And I promise you, we will use subpoenas.
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We will use the full force of the committees to get to the bottom of where this virus came
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from.
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So we don't let it happen again.
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Well, I can tell you that there are a number of public health doctors in this country who
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spent considerable time in China.
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I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but I'm addressing this to the audience, uh,
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who absolutely were reserved about what they knew about the Wuhan, uh, virology laboratory.
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Uh, they were reluctant to speak in the first few months.
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I will tell you my experience.
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They were very reluctant to speak openly and honestly about what was happening and the role
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of the NIH and even the funding of much of the laboratory work that was being done, uh,
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by a country that by the way, is just bleeding this nation, uh, daily of, uh, hundreds of billions
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of dollars.
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It's, uh, it's just stunning to see what's happening there.
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They would chose to be on the side of, uh, this relationship between Chinese public health
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officials and their government, uh, and the U S public health, uh, community.
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I found that stunning and terribly disappointing.
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And I think that, uh, the, the science we hear, uh, still persists because of that same
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miss, uh, to me, uh, somewhat, uh, uh, uh, grotesque, uh, relationship that, uh, grew up
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where they put, uh, their community of, uh, doctor brothers and sisters ahead of the nation
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and the national interest.
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I would say that's very important that, uh, you have dissent, whether it's science, whether
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it's a law or whether it's politics, that we find truth through argumentation.
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Sometimes people don't want argumentation.
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That's how you get to truth in a court of law.
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You have adversaries on both sides.
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They both present facts and the jury has to figure out the truth.
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It's the same way the public has to figure out the truth of these things.
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But if you have scientists that are afraid to speak because Dr. Fauci controls their purse
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strings, controls their finances, this can lead to a very one-sided sort of presentation
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of things.
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And there is a danger to that, but there are scientists who will speak out.
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There's an MIT professor, Kevin Esfeld, who wrote in the Washington post about a month ago
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that this kind of research that they were doing in Wuhan, this gain of function research
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could risk the very foundations of civilization.
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That you can get a virus so bad, realize the virus we're dealing with is bad.
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It has 1% mortality.
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Can you imagine if we had one that had 50% mortality?
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They are doing experiments with viruses that have 50% mortality.
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That's inexcusable.
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It should stop.
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That's the debate I'm going to force.
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And one of the things that we're going to keep talking about, because we should make sure
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that if this came from a lab, that it never happens again.
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Senator, we're delighted to have you.
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Thanks for your time.
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Appreciate it so much.
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All the best.
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Thanks for having me, Lou.
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And now here on the Great America Show, we turn to a congressman whose district is at
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the center of a huge number of issues of national importance.
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The war on drugs, illegal immigration, one of the country's largest ports is in his congressional
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district.
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He's also working to fix the tremendous supply chain crisis that we're in and to assure energy
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resources.
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And I hope that, once again, might mean energy independence and low prices.
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We're joined today by Congressman Buddy Carter of Georgia.
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And I don't know of another congressman whose district runs the entire length of his state's
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coastline.
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I'm confident there's no congressman in California who can make that claim, certainly.
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Congressman Carter is a successful businessman, a pharmacist.
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And as you would expect with his expertise, he is on the Energy and Commerce Committee, Budget
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Committee, Select Committee on Climate Change, co-chair of the Community Pharmacy Caucus.
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Welcome to the Great America Show, Congressman Carter.
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And you are a busy man.
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So we thank you doubly for joining us.
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Let's turn to your bill.
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And I think our audience is going to love the name of your bill because it has one of my favorite
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titles.
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President Biden has his bill called Build Back Better.
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Congressman Carter has his bill called Build Better Borders.
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I love that title, Congressman.
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Welcome to the show.
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Well, thank you.
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It's a pleasure to be with you.
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And you're right.
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This is the true version of the BBB.
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You know, Joe Biden and the administration have their bill back better.
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Well, this is Build Better Borders, which is what we need.
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It will solve a number of problems, a slew of problems that we have here in this country.
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Well, not only do I love the title of your bill, Congressman, tell everybody how your bill
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would pay for that, for the construction of that border bill.
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Well, as you know, the administration, the Biden administration has proposed paying
00:21:29.760
illegal immigrants $450,000, those who were separated from their families.
00:21:35.440
It's nothing more, in my mind, than retribution for what Donald Trump did.
00:21:42.660
They're just trying to make this another political campaign issue.
00:21:47.220
But what my bill would do would be to find every illegal immigrant who comes across that
00:21:53.860
border $450,000 and that $450,000 will go into a fund that will be used specifically and only
00:22:02.460
for the construction of the wall.
00:22:04.780
And that's what we need is we need a border wall down at our southernmost border.
00:22:11.440
There's no question about that.
00:22:12.780
And that's what this bill will do.
00:22:14.160
It will find them $450,000 and it will go directly into that fund, which we use only for
00:22:20.720
the construction of the wall.
00:22:23.120
You know, as you were talking about that $450,000 that he wants to give to illegal immigrants
00:22:30.100
and the fact that he doesn't want to mandate vaccinations for the China virus when it comes
00:22:40.300
to illegal immigrants, but mandated for citizens.
00:22:43.660
You know, I'm just thinking the man's operating like a pirate.
00:22:47.520
You know, he's sort of at the helm.
00:22:49.220
Uh, I'm not sure he knows what direction the ship is going, but he loves to yell out, uh,
00:22:54.300
you know, orders and, uh, uh, and he's absolutely emphatic, uh, and 90% of the time he doesn't
00:23:02.060
appear to know not only not where we're going, but, uh, where we've been, uh, or where he
00:23:07.480
is.
00:23:08.320
And it's, it's nice to see a Congressman like you, uh, Congressman Carter involved in so many
00:23:15.460
of these important issues, uh, and I've got to turn to the fact that you represent your
00:23:21.180
state's entire coastline.
00:23:23.020
There are not many folks who can say that, are there?
00:23:25.960
No, there, there are not.
00:23:27.280
And, um, you know, I tell my people in, in, in the district all the time, there are 435
00:23:33.180
congressional districts in, in the United States, and we live in the best one.
00:23:37.740
And I truly believe that, uh, my district extends from the South Carolina state line
00:23:43.520
all the way down to the Florida state line.
00:23:45.220
It includes 101 miles of pristine coastline, the, the Georgia golden isles.
00:23:50.720
What a beautiful place.
00:23:51.600
It's my home.
00:23:52.300
It's where I've lived all my life, where I intend to live the rest of my life.
00:23:55.220
And, uh, you can imagine the honor and privilege that I feel in representing that area.
00:24:00.100
Well, surely.
00:24:01.220
And, uh, and it is the first district, isn't it?
00:24:04.420
It is the first district and the first district of Georgia.
00:24:07.260
And, uh, uh, and, and of course, um, as you know, um, James Oglethorpe, um, uh, settled
00:24:14.760
in that, in that area and, um, and founded the city of Savannah, set out the squares.
00:24:20.260
I don't know if you've ever been to Savannah, but it is my home and it's a beautiful, beautiful
00:24:25.020
area.
00:24:25.660
You bet.
00:24:26.300
As a matter of fact, uh, we lived in Georgia for a while, uh, back in the early eighties,
00:24:31.260
uh, before going to New York, uh, it was a somewhat of a culture shock to say the least,
00:24:39.220
but the, but the reality is you mentioned Savannah, you're also involved in the, in the supply
00:24:46.660
chain disruption, as they want to call it.
00:24:49.080
Uh, it's a messed up, uh, transportation system as best I can figure in most instances,
00:24:55.120
that's the reason for what they call a supply chain disruption, uh, the port of Savannah,
00:25:00.260
one of the country's largest, uh, you've also moved to get the, the port more money, uh,
00:25:06.080
so that you can handle more of those big, uh, container ships.
00:25:09.680
How is that going?
00:25:11.060
Well, it's going well.
00:25:12.480
We're very fortunate.
00:25:13.560
We have one of the least congested ports in America, and that's the, that's one of the
00:25:18.720
primary reasons for our growth that we've enjoyed.
00:25:22.100
We also have a great relationship between management and the unions down there.
00:25:26.980
They work very well together.
00:25:28.720
And, and, and as you can imagine, that makes for a success as well.
00:25:33.700
Uh, the, the, the challenge we've got right now is, uh, yeah, you can throw money at any
00:25:38.520
problem, but there are practical solutions that, that could help the supply chain issues that
00:25:44.840
the administration is, is completely ignoring.
00:25:47.480
For instance, um, you know, the, the trucks that are over 10 years old can't pick up containers.
00:25:54.220
Well, I, I understand the reason for that, but, you know, we got a supply chain issue right
00:25:59.880
now.
00:26:00.180
That's something that, that could be relaxed at least at this point until we can get this
00:26:05.540
supply chain issue straightened out.
00:26:07.800
Um, you know, there are some ports, not the port of Savannah, but there are ports throughout the
00:26:13.320
country that, you know, because of union contracts, they can't work 24 hours.
00:26:18.420
Well, you know, again, there's a simple solution to some of our supply chain problems.
00:26:23.680
And these supply chain problems are real.
00:26:25.860
Um, we hear about it from businesses all the time.
00:26:29.080
We, this is quite often we get calls from small businesses who, who can't get inventory
00:26:34.760
because of, of the fact that the, of the supply chain.
00:26:38.480
Yeah.
00:26:39.020
You know, Congressman, it's one of the things I, I, you know, I have a, I just, I have a
00:26:44.800
very simple mind.
00:26:46.200
Uh, when people tell me it's a supply chain disruption, I'm thinking, well, why are the
00:26:50.800
supplies clear across the ocean?
00:26:53.060
Why aren't they here?
00:26:54.660
And I think to myself, you know, I've got a, I've got a cure for this whole thing.
00:26:58.540
Why don't we start manufacturing in this country?
00:27:01.480
Why don't we quit outsourcing jobs to cheap foreign labor markets?
00:27:05.040
Why don't we quit, uh, sending our jobs to other cheap foreign labor markets, destroying
00:27:12.400
our middle class, by the way.
00:27:13.900
I mean, it is a straight on, we've gone 20 some odd years in this country until Donald
00:27:19.560
Trump was elected with stagnant wages for the average American working, uh, man and woman.
00:27:26.380
That's just wrong, isn't it?
00:27:27.780
Oh, absolutely.
00:27:29.060
It's wrong.
00:27:29.680
And it's not good for our country.
00:27:31.620
It's not good for our national defense.
00:27:33.460
Um, when we become dependent on other countries, we look at energy, we look at our healthcare
00:27:37.700
supplies, uh, all of those things put us in a very precarious position.
00:27:42.340
Um, uh, you know, I can remember Mike Pompeo, former secretary of state saying what an advantage
00:27:48.400
it was when he was traveling worldwide to know that we had not only energy independence, but
00:27:54.880
energy dominance and, and what a great tool that was in his tool chest to be able to use
00:27:59.700
that when, and now we've got the Biden administration, just throwing that away and destroying that.
00:28:04.680
Yeah.
00:28:05.220
And you know, and this lovely administration, I just can't say it any kinder than that.
00:28:10.460
This lovely administration, not within just hours, uh, shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline.
00:28:18.320
Uh, I think that the number is somewhere around 700,000, uh, barrels of oil a day that weren't
00:28:24.460
moving from the, uh, from Canada then to down to the Gulf of Mexico.
00:28:30.480
Uh, that's a lot of energy.
00:28:32.340
Uh, everything he's done has been to squeeze, uh, energy supplies, uh, to drive up prices.
00:28:39.720
And by the way, energy independence, as you point out, people said that Trump was crazy.
00:28:45.520
He couldn't get us to energy independence.
00:28:48.160
Guess what?
00:28:48.880
It took him two years to do it.
00:28:50.680
And now we've got supply chain disruptions.
00:28:54.160
When I think about the difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden, Donald Trump knew
00:28:59.620
what, what business was.
00:29:01.040
He knew what the economy was.
00:29:02.500
He knew how to make decisions.
00:29:03.780
He knew what was important to working men and women, uh, in this country.
00:29:08.280
Uh, you know, I think, I always think of Donald Trump as something of a traitor to his, uh,
00:29:12.940
class, the wealthy class of this country.
00:29:15.860
Uh, but you know what?
00:29:17.520
That's because he loves work.
00:29:19.440
He loves building.
00:29:20.960
He loves the American people.
00:29:23.760
And he was on the side of the American family and, and the working man and woman in this country.
00:29:30.480
And I hear you talk.
00:29:32.160
And I think I'm hearing precisely those same values.
00:29:35.560
And I want to compliment you.
00:29:36.840
Well, thank you.
00:29:38.160
And, and, you know, what a change we have now.
00:29:40.500
Uh, you know, my dad always said that, uh, politics is like a pendulum.
00:29:43.580
It swings back and forth.
00:29:44.840
And as good as Donald Trump was as our president, and I feel like he was one of the best we've
00:29:50.760
ever had.
00:29:51.580
Absolutely.
00:29:52.120
Joe Biden is one of the worst.
00:29:53.740
You know, I'm a Carter from Georgia, but first of all, I'm the right Carter.
00:29:57.140
Secondly, right now in the state of Georgia, I I'm the second happiest Carter in the state
00:30:02.960
in the state of Georgia, because former president Carter is now the happiest knowing that Joe
00:30:07.840
Biden has replaced him as the worst president ever.
00:30:11.100
I wonder where you were going with that.
00:30:13.100
And I suspect you're entirely right.
00:30:15.260
Uh, uh, uh, uh, president Carter, uh, had more than a few difficulties.
00:30:20.560
Uh, but as the saying goes, you're talking about your father's pendulum, uh, model.
00:30:25.360
Uh, the good news is he made Ronald Reagan, uh, possible.
00:30:29.960
And for that, uh, we want to say thanks to that other Carter.
00:30:34.000
He got that done for us anyway.
00:30:35.620
Uh, you know, it's, it's stunning to me, uh, that, uh, with all of your expertise, a pharmacist,
00:30:43.700
a businessman, uh, you're involved in climate change.
00:30:48.300
The let, let's start with one of the warnings that you've been putting out and in the midst
00:30:53.060
of what is a, a national crisis.
00:30:55.800
It's actually an international crisis, but let me be parochial and only worry right now
00:31:00.840
about the United States.
00:31:01.960
And that is the importation, uh, of fentanyl across primarily that Southern border with Mexico.
00:31:10.120
China knows that, uh, it's what it's a criminal class is doing.
00:31:15.660
And, uh, and no one wants to acknowledge that communist China is supporting the export.
00:31:23.060
Of the deadliest drug we know of into this country.
00:31:27.060
And a hundred thousand people are dying of fentanyl, uh, overdoses, uh, every year, this
00:31:34.540
is sounding stop and we've got to stop it.
00:31:36.780
And yet the left insists on leaving that border wide open to sex trafficking, to drug trafficking.
00:31:44.400
By the way, folks, just so you know, most of our methamphetamines, most of our marijuana,
00:31:50.120
most of our heroin, most of our fentanyl and cocaine come across that border with Mexico
00:31:57.460
and the left that this administration is endorsing and subsidizing and making that possible.
00:32:06.340
Uh, and they should ask God for forgiveness for what they're doing to this country and
00:32:10.440
our people.
00:32:11.440
Absolutely.
00:32:11.960
And Lou is, as you know, there is enough fentanyl in this country right now to kill every
00:32:18.080
American seven times over, seven times over.
00:32:22.340
And where's it coming from?
00:32:24.280
You're exactly right.
00:32:25.240
It's coming from that Southern border.
00:32:26.560
And, and, you know, I, I get frustrated sometimes because I hear a lot of people say, oh, the
00:32:32.380
border problem, that's a problem in Texas and New Mexico, Arizona, California.
00:32:36.480
It doesn't really impact me wrong.
00:32:38.920
First of all, it's much more than just, uh, illegal immigrants coming across that border.
00:32:44.280
It is this fentanyl, it's the illegal drugs that are coming across this border.
00:32:48.120
And, and, and the problem at the border has turned every state into a border state.
00:32:53.720
And these illegal drugs that are coming into this country, they are infesting all communities.
00:32:59.380
They are infesting, whether it's Georgia, Florida, New Jersey, Chicago, Illinois, or the,
00:33:07.060
the, the far West, they are everywhere.
00:33:10.100
And it is a national problem.
00:33:12.840
We have to understand that.
00:33:14.340
And we're never going to get it under control until we secure our border.
00:33:19.000
Well, absolutely.
00:33:21.000
And until we get, uh, everyone to understand that there is, uh, everybody wants to talk about
00:33:28.260
accountability.
00:33:28.780
Well, this, this instance, uh, accountability is, uh, the reward, uh, for the democratic party,
00:33:38.060
uh, and the, the leftists who are dry leading at least the 14 of the biggest cities in this
00:33:46.140
country, uh, that have the highest crime rates.
00:33:49.040
They have record numbers of murders and no one is saying anything about it.
00:33:53.700
It's not an accident that that's happening in big cities run by the democratic machine who
00:34:01.140
do not prosecute.
00:34:02.660
They do not arrest the perpetrators.
00:34:05.980
Uh, it is a lawless environment.
00:34:08.940
Urban America is a lawless, uh, desert right now.
00:34:14.520
And it's gotta be fixed.
00:34:16.800
It's just gotta be fixed.
00:34:18.300
It has.
00:34:19.260
And, and you make a great point.
00:34:21.960
It is urban America.
00:34:23.440
You know, my wife and I are blessed.
00:34:25.460
Our, we just had another grandchild and, and that my youngest son, and that's number six.
00:34:30.880
And, uh, and, and here we are, they live in Buckhead in the Atlanta area, one of the most
00:34:36.760
affluent areas in Georgia.
00:34:39.400
And, and yet they have a serious crime problem.
00:34:42.420
So serious that they're talking and considering de-annexing from the city of Atlanta and, and
00:34:48.140
creating their own city so that they can have their own police force.
00:34:51.760
Well, I've got a vested interest there.
00:34:53.640
I got a grandbaby there.
00:34:54.560
I want to make sure that they're, they're in good shape, but because of the, the crime
00:34:59.580
problem, because of the, the rhetoric that we've heard, particularly last summer with
00:35:04.740
defund the police that came out of the democratic party and, and, and that they continue to
00:35:09.620
press forward with that's resulted into the crime problems that we have in, in our urban
00:35:15.800
areas right now.
00:35:16.920
And this, the illegal drugs that are coming across the border situation.
00:35:21.480
And what's so frustrating to me about the border situation is, first of all, here we
00:35:26.820
have a president of the United States who, as a senator, as a vice president, as a president,
00:35:31.860
has never been to the border, to the Southern border, never.
00:35:36.940
And then we have the czar, the border czar, Kamala Harris, who goes to the border, but goes
00:35:42.800
to the wrong place.
00:35:43.660
She went to El Paso, which is some 800 miles from the epicenter of the problem.
00:35:48.820
I've been to, I've been to McAllen, Texas twice this year.
00:35:52.480
I've been four times since I've been a member of Congress.
00:35:55.100
Now, it's people who have not been to the border.
00:36:00.060
First of all, it's most of it is high desert.
00:36:04.020
It's a beautiful area.
00:36:07.100
It's certainly in Arizona, California, New Mexico, the Rio Grande Valley in Texas.
00:36:14.160
And the fact of the matter is, ranchers who've lived in that, along that border for years
00:36:20.580
are, they have trafficking of all sorts.
00:36:23.660
I said sex trafficking, human smuggling, drugs.
00:36:26.760
It's, it's awful what is being done to American citizens in those small communities, primarily
00:36:32.140
small communities along that border.
00:36:34.480
And what is being done to this country, we will have 2 million, Congressman, you know
00:36:39.760
this, we'll have 2 million illegal immigrants crossing that border, this, in the first year
00:36:47.580
of this president's first and probably only term.
00:36:53.240
It's stunning that this is happening.
00:36:55.200
And they're being transported into the innermost communities of this country by plane at night,
00:37:03.140
like, well, like the contraband that they in fact are.
00:37:07.300
Exactly.
00:37:09.120
And the money that is being made by these coyotes, by these, by these gangs that in Mexico that
00:37:17.160
are running this, I mean, you want to talk about a well run organization, then you talk
00:37:23.260
about the cartels down there.
00:37:25.020
I mean, when the last time we visited, we went to the border in McAllen, as I indicated
00:37:30.000
earlier, and, you know, they have actually have wristbands for them.
00:37:34.260
And they're different colors depending on whether they have already paid the cartels or whether
00:37:39.680
they still have, still owe them money.
00:37:43.120
And, and listen, you don't get across that border unless you paid a cartel.
00:37:48.040
And if they catch you without, without one of those wristbands, they'll kill you.
00:37:53.600
And so it's that dangerous down there.
00:37:56.260
And if you tried to get your own wristband, I imagine you'd be an even bigger, bigger trouble.
00:38:02.100
I, you know, I'm making a joke out of this, but the cartels run that border.
00:38:06.620
Don't let anybody tell you it's just Mexico, Northern Mexico to make this work.
00:38:11.700
There has to be immense corruption on both sides of that border.
00:38:15.260
And there have to be deals and president Trump scared everybody.
00:38:19.680
He scared the establishment and, uh, the, the established, the establishment chose the
00:38:26.300
democratic party to attack, uh, Donald Trump.
00:38:30.480
And they persecuted the man to failed impeachments on baseless charges.
00:38:34.660
They're persecuting him.
00:38:35.840
Even now, uh, investigation after investigation, they never turned up anything.
00:38:40.500
Think about that.
00:38:41.340
Congressman, nothing.
00:38:42.540
They turned up nothing and everybody walks around whistling like, well, that five, that
00:38:47.260
five years of hell for the, for the president, uh, and his family just doesn't matter.
00:38:53.320
It, it matters greatly, doesn't it?
00:38:56.140
Oh, absolutely.
00:38:56.800
It matters greatly.
00:38:57.560
And, and, and obviously you can understand why the president, why president Trump was so
00:39:02.780
upset.
00:39:03.340
They did attack him and his family.
00:39:05.320
I mean, I can tell you being in public office myself, um, I'm okay.
00:39:10.380
You attack me fine.
00:39:11.600
But when you attack my family now that that's off limits and, and they attacked his family.
00:39:17.260
And I, I know he was so upset about it.
00:39:19.360
Listen, I was at the state of the union address when Nancy Pelosi tore up his speech after he
00:39:24.360
had given it to her, you know, how childish, I mean, just ridiculous.
00:39:28.500
And, and I've, I've witnessed it.
00:39:30.700
I would, I've been here during both of those failed impeachments and, and, and they were,
00:39:36.240
they were just in exercising futility and it should have never happened.
00:39:39.960
And it was ridiculous.
00:39:41.820
And yet, um, you know, we continue on and we've got to continue on.
00:39:46.740
And I, I hope that this, in this president still has great influence, great influence.
00:39:51.780
And, and I'm glad of that.
00:39:53.680
Well, we're, we're going into 2022, the midterm election.
00:39:57.680
And right now the president's made, it's clear.
00:40:00.600
He made it clear.
00:40:01.480
He is going to have considerable say in who gets through those primaries and, uh, no more
00:40:08.480
rhinos.
00:40:09.380
Uh, this is still, uh, and people sometimes are surprised when I say this, but this is
00:40:15.120
the truth.
00:40:15.600
The Republican party is his party, despite the fact that Ronald McDaniel, still the chair
00:40:21.580
of the RNC, despite the fact that the, you know, there are still rhinos of plenty, at
00:40:27.240
least enough in the house to have gotten, uh, uh, the bill back better bill with apologies
00:40:32.920
to you.
00:40:33.640
Yours is a much better title bill.
00:40:36.000
Uh, they, they're the ones who got that bill through 13 turncoat Republicans.
00:40:41.320
And we've got to make certain that people understand a Republican and isn't just any
00:40:47.380
Republican, these rhinos Republicans in name only, they've got to be stopped and they've
00:40:52.840
got to be stopped now because they are, uh, in league with the democratic party, the radical
00:40:58.360
Dems and the, and the leftist Marxist, uh, uh, Dems along with corporate America.
00:41:04.180
There's a whole new alignment here.
00:41:06.560
And thank goodness for Donald Trump's leadership, both in and out.
00:41:11.320
Of the white house.
00:41:13.200
Absolutely.
00:41:14.060
And he continues to be a force in the state of Georgia.
00:41:16.580
I can assure you of that.
00:41:17.860
We've done polling that's shown where it's still 74, 75% of Republicans identified Donald
00:41:23.840
Trump as being the leader of the Republican party.
00:41:26.960
That's well, in, and at the same time, uh, the, the state of Georgia still has not gotten
00:41:35.440
all of its act together in terms of, uh, uh, an electoral system that will assure every
00:41:41.140
voter, uh, of the integrity of their vote.
00:41:44.380
Your thoughts on that.
00:41:46.120
Well, um, you're right.
00:41:48.200
And there, there's still a confidence, a lack of confidence there in the voting system.
00:41:53.000
However, I do applaud the Georgia state legislature for the work that they did and, and the election
00:41:59.420
integrity act that they passed last session.
00:42:01.940
I think it will help.
00:42:03.040
It will improve.
00:42:03.920
It'll make cheating harder and voting easier.
00:42:06.300
And we needed that there are still, um, improvements that can be made, but it is much, much better
00:42:13.240
than it was thanks to the work of the Georgia state legislature and the work that they did
00:42:17.040
with the election integrity act.
00:42:18.580
And that's the problem I had from the get go.
00:42:21.420
The major problem that I had is that the changes that were made were made by the executive branch.
00:42:26.980
Our constitution is quite clear.
00:42:29.700
It says that the state legislatures will make these changes.
00:42:33.320
I can remember having a phone call and in March of 2020 with the secretary of state,
00:42:40.300
Brad Raffensperger.
00:42:42.020
And, and I led that phone call of the Republican delegation, congressional delegation here in
00:42:47.380
the state of Georgia, when he told us that he had reached a settlement agreement with the
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Democrats to avoid a lawsuit that would allow him to mail out an absentee ballot application
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to everyone in the state of Georgia that was on the voter roll.
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And we told him then we told him back in March, I'm not sure that's a good idea.
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That's where mainly that's where you have most of your fraud at.
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And he, he didn't listen to us and went ahead with it.
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And sure enough, um, you know, the potential for fraud, it was certainly there.
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Well, you know, there's nothing like common sense and, uh, there's also nothing like understanding
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cause and effect.
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And you, and you explained both to him and still he persisted.
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So I, I, you know, one of my mentors was a pretty good banker by the name of Walt Riston.
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And he used to say, when things don't add up, look under the rug.
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Well, there's a lot of, uh, under the rug looking to be done in Georgia because that the explanations
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for what they did and why still hasn't, you know, haven't been revealed.
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Uh, this is, this is corruption on a high level, in my opinion.
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And I, I think that the, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation should be taking a very strong
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look at it.
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I can't understand why they have it.
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Have you got a sense of that?
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Well, I, I'm, I will say that I'm disappointed.
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There hasn't been more, uh, investigation into this.
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I think there are some other things that could have been done.
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Um, you, you only have to look as far, you know, I don't know how I get to, to refer to
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former president Jimmy Carter twice in, in this conversation, but, uh, there was an Arizona
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case and that was, um, just settled in the Supreme court, um, a few months ago that, um,
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that, that went back part of the argument cited Jimmy, president Jimmy Carter saying the,
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the, the, the main area that you have that can lead to fraud is absentee voting.
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Yeah.
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And that's what happened in the state of Georgia.
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We had so many calls in our office of people who are saying, you know, I just got two absentee
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ballots, not an application, but ballots for someone who lived here 15 years ago.
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That's unbelievable.
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You know, and I think where we are, Congressman, suddenly we don't have election day.
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And that, by the way, is in the constitution that, uh, we, we, we pick a day, but I'm not
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a week, not a few months, not a year we pick a day and somehow with all of these advances
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in technology and in our, uh, the quality of our life, our standard of living, the, and,
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and the, think of how brilliant, uh, all our teachers are, uh, in, uh, K through 12 and,
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and college.
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And suddenly we're too dumb to get to a voting booth and, uh, incapable of voting on the day
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selected by state legislatures.
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I mean, are you, there's something really rancid about that and that we have to get to the
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bottom of, don't you think?
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Oh, absolutely.
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There's no question about it.
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Look, um, one of the greatest freedoms that we have in this country is the freedom to vote
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and, and the freedom to, to elect our public officials and our elected officials.
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And, and, you know, that is something I, I'm, I thank all of our veterans for among all the
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other great freedoms that we have, but that one in particular, and, and, and yeah, it takes
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effort and we should, we, we should make that effort to get out, to get, to vote, to educate
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ourselves on the, on the candidates, all of that.
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And, you know, look, this is a responsibility, uh, a citizen's responsibility to be involved
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in this and to educate ourselves and, and to participate.
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One of the things this show's, uh, doing, uh, Congressman, just so you know, we're, we're not
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just talking on this show.
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We are going to proselytize.
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We're, we're going to be evangelical about getting folks who listen to this show, uh, to
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the voting booths.
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We're going to be encouraging to be, uh, vote watchers, uh, election officials, uh, and
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volunteers, uh, across the country, because they've got to be engaged one.
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It's one thing to make a mistake.
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And we all made a big mistake in 2020, but you know what?
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The real test is whether we repeat our mistakes and we sure, sure better make absolutely certain
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that we don't repeat that mistake ever again, the country can't afford the high cost that
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we're paying right now, the high price we're paying for those mistakes that we all made.
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Elections have consequences and policies have consequences.
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And we are suffering the consequences right now of the Biden administration's policies.
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And we're suffering the consequences of the Biden election.
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Congressman Buddy Carter, a great American and a terrific Congressman from the great
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state of Georgia, first district, I might add, uh, great to have you with us.
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And it's a great of all of you listening in, uh, to be with us.
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We appreciate it when you share part of your day with us.
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And I want to just say this, we've got some important news here that I shouldn't have left
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to the end of the episode, but, uh, the fact is we've had, we're a little acorn, you
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know, we've, we've only been on the air less than, uh, well, less than a month and already
00:48:21.720
in, I'm proud to report to you, uh, that we are in the top 50 in politics on the Apple
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There are other metrics, but, uh, also you'll be impressed to know that this is an international
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podcast of, of immense importance.
00:48:38.320
And in particular, we're proud of our ranking in Tanzania.
00:48:41.800
Tanzania, now we're in lots of countries, but Tanzania, we're number three in politics
00:48:46.960
in Tanzania that we're a little acorn, but we're sure growing.
00:48:50.980
And we want to thank you for that, uh, dramatic growth that we've been enjoying.
00:48:55.260
Thanks so much.
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And, uh, see you next time.
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Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.
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