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00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:00:05.180 We're all about truth, justice, and the American way here. And let's start with a startling new

00:00:10.860 entry in the truth column. Puppet President Joe Biden, who never ceases to meet the lowest of

00:00:17.640 expectations, especially when it comes to truth. Before now, Biden's attorneys, the FBI, and the

00:00:24.440 National Archives, hadn't disclosed how many boxes had been in the Penn Biden Center in Washington.

00:00:31.620 Now, Fox News reports that Biden's attorney, Patrick Moore, shipped at least nine boxes from the

00:00:37.940 Biden Center to Moore's office up in Boston. And we're learning about it now, thanks only to Senator

00:00:45.480 Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley. Nine more boxes and we don't know what they contain. It's not

00:00:52.680 unreasonable, of course, to assume there are some classified documents. Biden does have a history,

00:00:58.820 doesn't he? And apparently no one has gone through those boxes, or at least so they say. Outrageous.

00:01:06.220 And the Marxist Dems in the Senate have reintroduced a resolution that would claim the date of March 1st

00:01:12.160 for the national, quote, COVID-19 Victims Memorial Day. The resolution was first introduced in August of

00:01:20.860 2021, but wasn't passed. You'll be pleased to know this new resolution is far more gender neutral than

00:01:28.680 the original. It replaces the words mother and father with the word parents, and brother and sister

00:01:35.860 with the word siblings. Isn't that thoughtful? Everything the Marxists do is politicized and,

00:01:43.100 where possible, weaponized against decency, the traditional family, truth, and the American way.

00:01:49.580 The Marxists are doing all they can to stop President Trump, but their corruption is being

00:01:54.780 revealed more by the day. Those nine boxes, they're just more reason to demand that the Biden cesspool

00:02:02.060 and the Justice Department drop altogether their efforts to prosecute President Trump, trying to

00:02:08.300 block his path to return to the White House. The president's successfully doing what he must do to

00:02:14.720 defeat the billionaire oligarch donors and the RINO candidates they will trot out to run against him.

00:02:21.420 A tough battle is underway, but President Trump is winning in these early rounds, whether it be his

00:02:27.660 dominating win in the CPAC straw poll or his general poll numbers that show him to be not only the leader

00:02:34.200 of the Republican Party, but he's retaining as well his high favorability lead with his base, and he's

00:02:40.800 gaining momentum. Our guest today is the man who first warned President Trump about the Russian

00:02:46.060 collusion hoax. He's served 20 years in Congress. Devin Nunes joins us now. Devin is the chief executive

00:02:52.860 officer of Trump Media and Technology, including the properties Truth Social and Rumble. Devin, it is

00:03:00.040 great to have you back with us here on the show, and welcome. Devin, what is your reaction to President

00:03:05.200 Trump's positioning now in the Republican Party and his popularity with the people who matter most,

00:03:11.340 Republican and independent voters? Well, Lou, it's great to be back with you, and what's obvious

00:03:17.200 whenever you travel around the country, which I do a lot of on behalf of Truth Social, you see Trump

00:03:22.320 2024 flags everywhere, you know, and in fact, you know, we're headquartered in Florida, and when I drive

00:03:28.480 across the state, you know, from our headquarters, which is on the Gulf side, over to Mar-a-Lago to see the

00:03:34.960 president, you know, you see Trump 2024 flags everywhere, and so I think what we're looking

00:03:41.660 at here is an unprecedented political movement. It started as Donald Trump the outsider back in 15

00:03:48.640 and 16. Nobody really gave him a chance, and then he shocked the world, and then by doing that, he

00:03:55.600 really pulled the Band-Aid off of all the corruption, which likely existed. The left was doing it to George

00:04:03.320 W. Bush, was doing it to, you know, during all the Obama years, and nobody expected somebody like Trump to,

00:04:10.980 number one, to win, but then number two, he operates outside the norms, and he would just call them out on

00:04:18.140 things, and now where we're at, Lou, is that over the four years that Trump was president, he shocked everybody

00:04:25.640 by actually doing what he said he was going to do, even though he didn't get full cooperation from

00:04:30.500 from all the Republicans in Congress, and of course, lost control of Congress for the last two years,

00:04:36.260 but he actually did the things he said he was going to do, and probably the best example of that is

00:04:43.000 taking on China. Nobody thought he was going to take on China, including me, because I've heard every 0.87

00:04:48.060 single president say we're going to get tough on China, and I'll be damned if he didn't do it,

00:04:52.060 and I think a lot of the credit goes to, you know, some of the president's people that he picked from

00:04:57.680 the very beginning were rock stars, and, you know, everybody talks about the people who didn't work

00:05:03.000 out or that turned on Trump. You know, Trump didn't have a lot of connections to Washington, D.C.,

00:05:07.320 didn't know how the swamp operated, didn't know all the players, but I will tell you, Ambassador

00:05:12.480 Robert Lighthizer does not get the credit that he should get. I mean, he was probably one of the best

00:05:18.500 people in the Trump administration. I mean, they took on China, and, you know, and President Trump,

00:05:23.840 as you know, in his heart, in his bones, he does not like to see the empty factories spread throughout

00:05:30.520 the Rust Belt, and I think that resonates with people, and then you saw how he was attacked by

00:05:35.200 the FBI, the DOJ, every level of government, and what it's turned into, Lou, is simply just a movement,

00:05:41.500 so I like to tell people, look, not only, you know, I know a lot of these people that are either

00:05:46.300 running for president or pretending like they're going to run, and I just say, look, good luck,

00:05:51.860 guys. I mean, we haven't had a political movement like this, and you're not dealing with somebody

00:05:56.720 who is your average Joe, and even your average Joe politician. As you know, Lou, I mean, Donald

00:06:04.380 Trump works seven days a week. He's never off. He's always on. He may not like everything he says,

00:06:11.240 but you know what? He's out there working. He's out there swinging the bat, and that's going to be

00:06:15.900 tough for anyone to get around, and I think that's what you saw at CPAC last week, and I've got some

00:06:21.140 other fun stories that I can share with you, but I'll pass it back to you. No, I just want to agree

00:06:26.820 with you about Robert Lighthizer, and I had some relationship with a number of people in the

00:06:33.300 administration. None, in my opinion, compared to Robert Lighthizer in his intellectual depth,

00:06:40.680 his knowledge, and his commitment to the president's direction to bring that trading relationship with

00:06:48.720 China into balance, including the inception of those tariffs that the president wanted to put on.

00:06:58.240 People, I just want to agree absolutely 100 percent with you about his role and how important it was

00:07:05.200 if the president had had a cabinet full of Robert Lighthizer's, an administration and executive

00:07:13.260 office building filled with Robert Lighthizer's. Of course, his talents are so rare, you couldn't fill

00:07:19.320 it more than a couple more offices maybe, but he would have made all the difference in the world

00:07:25.360 because some of the choices the president, as you alluded to, made some bad choices,

00:07:30.320 and the result was that with all of the fire, the incoming from the left, from the deep state,

00:07:37.780 it was a miracle that President Trump got done what he did, which was more than any president in

00:07:45.600 modern American history. I think that's right, Lou, and you know, and you hear this a lot that one of

00:07:53.280 the advantages that President Trump has coming back in is that when he lost, and then he set up on the

00:08:00.300 outside, you know, these groups form, the America, different America First groups, you got the

00:08:05.920 America First legal with Stephen Miller, and then you've got the America First group that Linda

00:08:10.900 McMahon is chairing. You know, this is a situation now that, you know, when President Trump, you know,

00:08:17.140 if he's successful again, you know, he'll go in with a whole stable of people that he didn't have

00:08:23.500 before. Before he just thought that, hey, when I get to D.C., you know, there's just a lot of good

00:08:27.460 Republicans and the party apparatus will help me out. Well, he knows that's not the case. And so

00:08:32.140 nobody is ready to go into battle with the right people in place, like Trump is now, not to mention

00:08:38.860 that, you know, like he said at CPAC, you know, the other day, I mean, he's, you know, he's, he's really

00:08:44.980 a man on a mission. And he knows, you know, I see the fake news making a big deal about, you know, his

00:08:50.980 point that he made at CPAC is that, you know, so many Americans were done wrong, right? Whether

00:08:56.900 it's General Flynn and all the people wrapped up in the Russia hoax, or, you know, January, 0.92

00:09:02.380 January 6th people who are being treated differently than anyone else, or all the ridiculous

00:09:07.880 investigations that are, that are underway not right now in the DOJ with the, with the documents,

00:09:13.420 the Mar-a-Lago documents hoax, the Ukraine impeachment hoax, it goes on and on. And Donald

00:09:19.400 Trump says, look, I'm the guy who's going to, who's going to get retribution. And they,

00:09:24.440 and the fake news, they go crazy with that. It's like, well, what the hell do you expect?

00:09:28.980 Like, you know, you expect all of us just to take this, to sit here and take it? Like, this is not

00:09:34.360 the Republican Party of old. You know, we see, I mean, I was there, Lou, for, for, for two decades,

00:09:39.960 and I saw the degradation and the weakness in the Republican Party, and it really just manifested

00:09:45.860 itself, uh, during the Trump administration. You really cut the, you know, the, the men from the

00:09:52.600 boys, so to speak, if we can even say men and boys anymore. And to this point, I think there's every

00:09:57.460 reason for those of us on the right in this country to assert our values and to steadfastly, uh,

00:10:05.020 preserve them, uh, and persevere, uh, against the left in this country, as you're talking about. I,

00:10:11.760 I, I, I have to say, go on, I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, I was just going to, just going to point

00:10:16.880 out, I know this is not what you had me on to talk about, but I think, you know, I'm obviously,

00:10:21.980 I spent a lot of time in Florida now at our, at true social headquarters, but, you know, I still

00:10:26.060 spend a lot of time in California. My family lives in California, my wife and children, and,

00:10:29.960 and I'll tell you this, you know, so it's kind of the heart of, of progressive, uh, craziness,

00:10:36.560 although I'm in the middle of the state, so we're a little less impacted by it. But, but I just don't

00:10:42.680 believe, I think what's happened here is, is you've got the fake news, which is doing the typical fake

00:10:47.560 news stuff. They're talking about this with the hard progressive left, which is probably, I mean,

00:10:53.200 probably even in the state of California, it's less than five, maybe 10% of the population that

00:10:58.260 really believes in this crazy stuff. And what's happening is, is that they just, they've,

00:11:03.240 especially in California, they've managed to cut off 55%, 60% of the population from real

00:11:10.400 information. Right. And they've done this successfully. So by not just controlling the

00:11:17.000 fake news, but also controlling the delivery of the fake news, which is the social media company.

00:11:22.440 And so you've got 55, 60% of Californians who are running around like, okay, we're told to vote

00:11:27.900 Democrat. We're going to vote Democrat. We know the Republicans must suck because we hear that every

00:11:32.040 single day. But you know what? If those, if, if those people, I have to think a big percentage 1.00

00:11:39.040 of those people, even in California, as crazy as this sounds, if, if you went to them and said,

00:11:44.960 Hey, did you know that the, the progressive democratic socialist left that has full control

00:11:50.580 of the state of California wants to give reparations to black people in California, even though the state

00:11:58.700 of California never had a slave and fought on the side of the union, they actually want to increase

00:12:04.040 the amount from 250 to, I don't know, I think it's 350 now. And as you know, that they're fighting to

00:12:08.680 say that there's, you can't use he or she anymore. There's, there's no difference between boys and

00:12:13.900 girls and that people can decide what sex they are. And if they have rights, special rights in the state 1.00

00:12:20.700 of California and they want to, they want to take this not only nationally, but, but globally, do you

00:12:26.480 know about this? I think the answer Lou would be, they would just sit there glass eyed and be like,

00:12:32.120 um, Lou Dobbs, Devin and what the hell are you talking about? There's never heard any, any such

00:12:37.040 thing. Well, I think it's just a matter of, of, of information getting to the people. I have to think

00:12:44.740 even the people of California would say they have no clue. This is going on. No clue.

00:12:51.620 I think you're right. I'm just looking down here at Twitter, uh, and, uh, Elon Musk, who has been,

00:12:58.060 uh, and by the way, I think he has truly been at various points, a champion of free speech,

00:13:03.160 but I'm just checking to see how many followers I have right now. And I want to give everybody a

00:13:09.860 correct update on this. And if I can get this number up here, um, it's 2 million, almost 2.4

00:13:21.260 million, uh, followers. And it's been that way for quite a while. And if I go to the analytics

00:13:28.660 right now, and I, there's a point to this, believe me, folks, bear with me, the analytics for, uh,

00:13:36.100 this show that last month I had something like 6,000 followers, new followers, which is a,

00:13:42.980 a very small number for what is typical, uh, for the show, because I'm being shadow banned is the

00:13:50.140 point under the Elon Musk, who is supposed to be all better than all of those Twitter critters who

00:13:55.540 preceded him in one fashion or another, because they're shadow banning me because I am a conservative

00:14:02.000 and I am for Donald Trump and I am for America first and MAGA. I I'm all traditional founding

00:14:09.540 values. I believe fervently in the constitution, the rule of law that makes me a dangerous, dangerous

00:14:16.120 extremist in the minds of the rhinos, as well as what you call the progressive left. By the way,

00:14:22.420 I don't refer to Democrats as the progressive left. I'm calling them what they are. They are Marxist.

00:14:29.280 Uh, Devin, there's no doubt in my mind,

00:14:32.000 and I will not give them the word progressive because they're not progressing anything. They

00:14:37.060 are destroyers. They are putting this country back decades, uh, with all of their stratagems,

00:14:43.740 which are Marxist in both design and effect your thoughts. Well, look, I totally agree. I mean,

00:14:51.240 we're the, in California, you know, we're really the Guinea pig, especially where I'm from in the San

00:14:56.140 Joaquin Valley of California, kind of the middle of the state, the agricultural area. A lot of what you

00:15:01.580 see of the, of the hard left Marxist left, and I totally agree with you on that, that definition,

00:15:08.040 but a lot of these, like the crazy environmental policies started, started here in California.

00:15:14.920 It started 20, 30 years ago, and gradually it took shape in Washington, DC and the rest of the country.

00:15:20.980 Many parts of the country have not really seen the impact of these Marxist policies that come out of

00:15:28.420 California. The same, Lou, is true for this whole transgender issue. I mean, it started in California, 0.98

00:15:35.580 gosh, I'm thinking maybe 10, 15 years ago, roughly, where they made a big deal about, about making sure

00:15:43.100 that boys could use girls' bathrooms at school. You may, you may remember some of that. So what

00:15:49.460 started here, and they just continue, they just continue to push these, these policies forward.

00:15:54.480 And, and look, as it relates to Twitter and Elon Musk, I think the way you have to look at this is

00:16:00.040 that, you know, hey, we're, we're very thankful that, that Elon Musk, when I say we, President Trump and

00:16:05.680 I were very supportive of Elon Musk buying Twitter, you know, because the goal at True Social is to, is to

00:16:11.880 open up the America, open up the internet in order to give the American people their voice back. And we've

00:16:17.460 successfully done that, right? Over the last year, if you look at where we've come from, you know, we operate

00:16:23.000 without using an Amazon, or, you know, a Microsoft, or any of the big major tech, tech tyrant companies. We don't use any of

00:16:32.060 that, Lou. Between True Social and Rumble, we have our own enclosed system where we're not reliant on

00:16:38.560 these big tech companies. And no matter how hard they, they attack us, everything they do to us, they

00:16:42.980 say, you know, so many, you know, fake news stories about us. But, you know, here we are standing, coming

00:16:48.260 out with features, continuing to grow every day. And I think what Elon Musk is, is, is seeing is that,

00:16:55.160 you know, Twitter, which is kind of a relic platform that goes back to, gosh, I think they started

00:17:00.300 Twitter in 2006 or 2007. And I know, I went onto the platform in 2009. And what they successfully did over the

00:17:08.140 years is they, they built a wicked web of algorithms into their software that they can't fix. And so even though

00:17:17.980 Elon Musk has, has said, hey, I don't want any of this to happen. It's like, how do you fix it? And I saw an interview

00:17:24.700 that he, that he did, that said, you know, they may have to rewrite all the code. And, you know, I don't

00:17:31.360 know if that's true, but that's what he, that's what he said. And if you take what we've done, which is

00:17:35.640 entirely different with our feed, is that we don't use an algorithm. The feed is the feed. Lou, if you

00:17:41.880 post at 12 p.m. and I post at 1230, I'm going to be first in someone's feed and you're going to be

00:17:48.880 second. There's no algorithm. There's no getting rid of, there's no, there's no putting Devin Nunes under

00:17:53.620 Lou. There's no putting Donald Trump in front of us. It's just, the order is the order. And that,

00:17:59.900 if you may remember, that is how Facebook and Twitter used to operate. It used to just be in

00:18:05.580 chronological order. But what started with, hey, we're going to use algorithms to improve your

00:18:10.320 experience turned into, well, we're going to define what we think your experience should be.

00:18:17.620 And we're going to deem Lou Dobbs as not good information. So we're going to suppress him.

00:18:23.620 And I think now Twitter's kind of reached its peak. Everybody who wants to be on Twitter is on

00:18:28.940 Twitter. And they have a problem now of just fixing all of that code. So I don't know if

00:18:35.500 they're ever going to return to what they once were. But look, we're just going to continue.

00:18:42.000 True Social is going to continue to work with great partners like Rumble. And we're going to keep this

00:18:46.080 internet wide open. We're going to stand in the breach. And we're going to support people like Elon

00:18:50.140 Musk and anybody else who wants to fix this problem moving forward.

00:18:54.740 Well, I'm glad to hear that because we're planning to come over to Rumble very quickly here.

00:19:01.140 And I may call to get some advice, if I may. But it's really a different experience on,

00:19:09.960 as you say, True Social and Twitter. Let me just read you the tweet that I sent.

00:19:14.820 Sure, Elon Musk, this is the way I tweeted this out. Sure, at Elon Musk is shadow banning me even

00:19:21.780 worse than the old Twitter critters. But what he's done with SpaceX is absolutely thrilling,

00:19:26.280 historic and central to America's space program. He's routinized rocket launches,

00:19:31.700 every one of them a thrilling hoot. But here's the reality. Twitter is still, by the way,

00:19:37.880 you mentioned information not good. And I really think all of us on the right should be very careful

00:19:44.340 about these words. It isn't that the information isn't good. It is simply that the viewpoint is

00:19:50.340 opposite the Marxist left. And they are not tolerating it. And they're crushing it. They're

00:19:55.640 crushing it in schools. They're crushing the homogeneity of, excuse me, the homogeneity of

00:20:06.200 this country in favor of multiculturalism, which would be fine if it were transitional.

00:20:12.660 But they want that to be the result. That is, balkanization of America rather than a pluribus

00:20:19.780 junum, you know, out of many, one. And this is, and they want the family destroyed. And they're,

00:20:26.680 and they are doing very well with it with two, two Marxist organizations called teachers unions,

00:20:32.840 the two largest, destroying public education in this country.

00:20:37.460 You know, it's funny you mentioned, I haven't heard that term in a while, multiculturalism.

00:20:41.920 You know, when I was in college, that was the new thing. That was the big thing. And they were,

00:20:47.000 they were teaching us that in college. And, you know, back in those, in those days, you know,

00:20:52.880 it sounded a little bit ridiculous, but it's like, okay, look, you know, there's, there's a lot of

00:20:57.680 different cultures and we need to, you know, we need to accept all the cultures. Got it. No problem. 0.60

00:21:02.720 You know, but hey, we're all Americans. It just didn't seem that extreme at the time when I was in,

00:21:09.760 when I was going to college. But now you see, they turned what, hey, we should just all be aware of

00:21:15.540 everybody and accept everybody's differences. And, and I actually think it's important to recognize,

00:21:20.380 like, hey, instead of just calling yourself a Hispanic or a Latino, you know, that's kind of

00:21:26.740 something made up by the left wing, because everybody has an origin. Everybody has a family

00:21:32.140 that came from somewhere, right? They love to, you know, if you, if you came from, you know, Brazil,

00:21:38.300 Brazil, you're a hell of a lot different than somebody that came from Chile or somebody who 0.93

00:21:42.840 came from even within Mexico, there's a huge difference. I mean, I went to school with so

00:21:47.800 many people who had family in Mexico or, or originated from Mexico. They didn't say, oh,

00:21:53.320 we're, you know, when I'm talking about when I was a kid, they didn't say, oh, I'm a, I'm a Latino

00:21:58.040 or, and I sure as hell didn't say, I'm a Latinx. They sure as hell didn't say that.

00:22:02.920 What they did say is they'd say, oh, I'm from, you know, my, I've got my grandmother came from

00:22:07.240 Tijuana and my grandfather was from Guadalajara. Like, it'd be just like in the United States 0.86

00:22:11.900 saying, Lou, like we, like we were talking about, like, you know, you spent so much time in New

00:22:15.920 Jersey, right? And I've, I'm California. People have pride in that kind of thing. But, but now what

00:22:22.540 they've, and everybody around the world has pride of where their ancestors came from. There's nothing

00:22:27.620 wrong with that. But what that was 30 years ago has now metamorphed itself into, oh, if you're a

00:22:34.120 LGBTQ plus brown, green, whatever, you need to be a Latinx. We're going to call you a Latinx and 0.98

00:22:40.860 you've been discriminated against and you need to get reparation. I mean, it's absolute madness where

00:22:46.300 we come in, in 30 years that I can't even, I can't even believe it. What was multiculturalism is 0.62

00:22:52.780 without craziness. Right. Well, I'm a product of the sixties. I mean, that was the era of Vietnam, 0.71

00:22:59.180 civil rights, the sexual revolution, you know, sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Those folks who were

00:23:07.280 talking about the, the society that they were upending in, in the sixties, they would not have

00:23:15.860 had any idea that all of that could become what we have today, which is mind control, absolute

00:23:24.340 insistence upon conformity on the part of the Marxist left, certainly. Uh, and the, uh, and the

00:23:30.260 hollowed out now Democrat party, which had to make room for Marxism. Uh, they would never believe this.

00:23:36.800 It is the Marxists are totalitarian. They are authoritarian and they will not rest until this

00:23:44.660 country is no longer a constitutional Republic, no longer a democracy known as the United States

00:23:51.100 of America. We may be known as the States of America, uh, but it will be a Marxist form of

00:23:58.000 government. Yeah, it's, it's, um, it's really moving that way that, I mean, there's no question.

00:24:04.840 And if you think about, you know, the 1960s, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't alive then, but

00:24:10.100 But Lou, you had, you actually had legitimate issues going on during that time period, right?

00:24:20.780 Number one, you had a, you had a war waging that was, you know, at first remember that it was,

00:24:25.600 it was not a war. It was a secret war, right? In the, in the early sixties when they first went

00:24:30.440 into Vietnam and American people didn't know about it. And we started losing lives over there. And then 0.94

00:24:35.120 it was, then it was a war. Um, and then we had so many people that got, you know, killed or injured

00:24:40.260 over there, Americans, and nobody knew what the hell we were even doing there or how we got in,

00:24:44.940 in, into that mess. Um, and at the same time, we were dealing with real problems and not in

00:24:50.820 California, I must say, but no question, there were still, there were, there were still segregation

00:24:55.800 of, of schools, you know, in the fifties and the, in the, in the early sixties. I mean,

00:25:00.780 that's a legitimate concern that by the way, the Republicans are the ones who work to free the

00:25:07.940 slaves. And they were the ones who carried this legislation forever because it was a legitimate

00:25:12.320 problem. But now what's happened is instead of like seeing that, Hey, we've solved the problem

00:25:17.280 and how do we make things even better? We've went to, Oh no, no. You know, even though, you know,

00:25:23.380 you've been oppressed, you know, maybe, I mean, I get a kick out of, out of, you know, I, I,

00:25:28.140 it tends to be, you see a lot of, a lot of people that are, um, that come from Africa,

00:25:34.500 that, that immigrants from Africa, right. Uh, and so not people, not, not Americans, 0.82

00:25:40.060 not African Americans, but people that come first generation. And, um, it's just funny how they tend 0.88

00:25:45.140 to be so much more conservative. I don't know if you've ever noticed that, but they tend to be so

00:25:49.980 much more conservative and they're so happy to be here and they're, and they're working and they don't

00:25:52.940 sit around going, Oh, well, there used to be segregation and there was slavery in the United

00:25:58.460 States. So poor me, like I'm going to protest the government. It's like, no, they're happy to be

00:26:04.100 here. They're out there working hard. And there's just such a, such a difference between what the

00:26:09.600 radical left, what they do to these, to, to, to young people, no matter what you are. I mean,

00:26:13.620 if you're, if you're, if you're, they try to put you into a group and into a box and say,

00:26:18.620 you've been disadvantaged therefore, and we're the ones that are going to help you. You need to

00:26:22.560 be pissed off and you need to vote for us because we're going to get you free stuff versus, you know,

00:26:29.000 people that just come over here, you know, they come into the country and they want to work,

00:26:32.040 they want to work hard. And, and, you know, I mean, I just look at it as, I mean, how I grew up in a,

00:26:37.400 in the San Joaquin Valley and, you know, we had, you know, not a lot of people were really born in

00:26:42.600 the San Joaquin Valley because it's just been a growing area. It was an agricultural area.

00:26:46.040 I mean, hell, Lou, we had kids from, you know, Okies. We call them Okies because that's what 1.00

00:26:51.860 they called themselves. They were, they were, they were from the Dust Bowl era. You may remember,

00:26:56.040 you know, John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath, you know, famous, famous book, but that's where I grew

00:27:00.620 up. You know, we had kids that came from Oklahoma and, and from, and from Arkansas or their parents

00:27:06.340 did, you know, during the Dust Bowl. And we had kids that came from, a lot of kids that came from

00:27:10.280 Mexico. We had a lot of kids, you know, like me, that their families came from, from the Azor

00:27:14.100 Islands. You know, everybody came here, you worked in agriculture. It was a nice place to grow up.

00:27:19.240 Nobody sat around saying, oh my God, we've been oppressed. And, and we think the government

00:27:23.980 should give us something. It's like, no, the, you're like, Hey, we're just happy to have a job

00:27:28.700 and our families are happy to, to feed our families. And that's the spirit of America. It's

00:27:35.240 not what the, what the left is pushing and trying to create all these different, you know, boxes of

00:27:41.820 people that then turn into essentially, it's, they're trying to create these, these phony

00:27:46.800 voting blocks. You know, they are, but the, they needs to be, I think, better defined. I think we

00:27:55.420 can't just put it all at the hands of the, of the left wing Marxist in this country who grew up during

00:28:02.580 the sixties and handed off to the Obama generation. And now, uh, this, this generation, uh, which is

00:28:10.560 just being filled with fatuous nonsense, posing as reason and some basic knowledge. Uh, the, the

00:28:18.480 reality is that corporate America in this country, that was the hand, uh, you know, went hand in hand

00:28:24.540 with the Republican party, the chamber of commerce and the business round table. You, you were a

00:28:28.700 congressman for 20 years, uh, you know, all of this, but most people don't understand corporate

00:28:36.520 America through, through its voice on television is sending all of the wrong messages to American

00:28:43.120 families, all of the wrong messages over every medium I can think of. I don't personally find a single

00:28:50.380 exception, uh, except for podcasting, of course, and social media will real in respect to you and to me.

00:28:58.140 Uh, everywhere else, corporate America are sending tragic, awful messages to the American

00:29:05.060 people. They're beating them down. Uh, everyone, every time you see a man, uh, who's a head of a

00:29:11.320 family on a commercial, he's a fool, uh, is, uh, acts a fool, uh, families are discordant and, uh, and just 0.99

00:29:21.240 simply, uh, most of them just, uh, pictured as, uh, stupid, uh, gatherings, uh, on the screen. It's 1.00

00:29:31.260 outrageous. It's outrageous what corporate America is doing. Here's the, well, here's the positive news

00:29:37.120 on all that. Uh, on one hand, you're right. You've got, and let's just talk dollars and cents. And I was

00:29:42.840 in Washington, DC talking about this. So you podcasting, me running true social, um, other

00:29:49.040 companies like rumble. And there's, there's probably a lot, you know, there's, there's probably, you

00:29:53.600 know, the top 500 to a thousand different podcasters, companies, talk show hosts, what the

00:29:59.160 left has successfully done is they've, they've blacklisted so many people in America where what

00:30:05.200 they do with the woke corporates is if they tell them, well, look, you don't want to be advertising

00:30:09.860 with, you know, uh, Breitbart or the daily caller or just the news or Lou Dobbs or, or true social,

00:30:17.520 because, you know, they've been deemed by these independent fact checkers as, you know, being

00:30:22.820 fake or false information. And so they're very clever. The left has been very clever how they

00:30:28.860 force these corporate boards to, to adhere to this radical philosophy. And I think that's one thing

00:30:36.420 that has definitely happened over, over, you know, my time that I spent in Washington is watching that

00:30:42.460 happen. And now being at a, at a startup, you know, here at true social, you know, we see that now

00:30:47.160 every day as, as we've started to, to test and beta test our advertising platform. Uh, it's kind of

00:30:53.220 odd, Lou, even though we've got, you know, millions of users kind of strange. I don't see the

00:30:58.740 same advertisers that you see on say, you know, the, the network news, uh, folks, or, you know,

00:31:07.460 it's just, I mean, look, I'm being facetious here. We know why. So the good thing is we're on top of

00:31:13.060 it. We know what's happening. And now we, now we know what to, now we know what to go, go after.

00:31:18.100 And I was in Washington, DC, making my former colleagues aware of this, like, guys, forget all

00:31:22.460 this other stuff. You need to look at the two to $300 billion a year. That's going to go to internet

00:31:27.500 advertising. And they've, they're six, the left is successfully starving all of these small

00:31:33.800 businesses, right? I mean, you're a small businessman, Lou. I mean, you know, in the

00:31:37.900 podcast business and they're starving all of these companies of, of dollars. Now, the good news is,

00:31:44.340 is that these fact check groups will melt. They will melt and fall apart. You're already starting

00:31:50.160 to see it. A couple of, it's already happened to, uh, just here in the last few weeks. And I think

00:31:54.660 if the Republicans in Congress really start to look at these fact check groups that are,

00:31:59.360 that are working to blacklist, um, you know, hundreds and hundreds of conservative small

00:32:04.520 businesses across this country that are in the media, in the media sphere, uh, it's going

00:32:09.980 to backfire. And in fact, and I'll just kind of close with this, Lou, and see if you agree

00:32:15.280 with me or not. Um, what I've noticed, if you go back to, let's, let's take 2016, when Donald Trump,

00:32:22.980 you know, running for president, you had the network news, you had the three cable, the cable,

00:32:29.940 uh, channels. Um, you had the big radio guys, the Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. Mark Levin.

00:32:36.860 They were all there at that. And then you had Facebook, basically. It was Facebook,

00:32:42.100 little bit of Instagram, little bit of Twitter. And you had some local news. You know, if you're

00:32:46.460 running for office locally, you had a little bit of local news and, and the, you know, the big,

00:32:50.320 the big news outlets. That's it. That's all you had back in 2016. But because the left string,

00:32:58.240 put a stranglehold over all of that, what it's creating, like they're squeezing this and they

00:33:03.380 think they have it all enclosed, but the opposite is happening. The opposite is happening. What's

00:33:08.860 happening is, boom, Lou Dobbs starts up and has podcasts, right? Boom, true social appears. Boom,

00:33:14.740 rumble appears, right? I was at CPAC on, on, uh, Thursday and you, well, you'll believe it, Lou.

00:33:23.900 But, uh, you know, the tradition of CPAC is you walk in there, I've done it every single year

00:33:29.340 and immediately you get hounded by 10, 20, 30 fake news reporters from the, from really the relic

00:33:35.880 news media services. And they run up to you and say, Oh, you're a right wing, uh, festival here.

00:33:41.680 Not the, you know, the usual bullshit questions you get. Right. Right. And anyway, so guy comes up to 0.99

00:33:48.280 me. He's generally been a nice guy. I've known him for, for many years. He's a, he's a fake news guy.

00:33:54.020 And I was there on radio row, which Lou, you've been there many times. You know what I'm talking

00:33:57.820 about at CPAC where all the, the, the, you know, talk show guys are all, all outside.

00:34:04.200 And he says to me, he says, don't you, uh, don't you think it's strange that there's no

00:34:10.060 major, major, uh, media outlets that are here this year, you know, in the, in radio row. And I'm,

00:34:17.080 I'm thinking to myself, what was called radio row. I don't know if they have a new name for it now,

00:34:20.540 but that's kind of the nickname for it. Right. And I looked at it and I looked down and I looked,

00:34:24.560 I looked one way and I saw, I mean, just podcaster after podcaster, after Newsmax,

00:34:29.600 after OAN, after Epic times, you know, just down the line, they're all there.

00:34:34.220 And I said, what are you talking about? Well, there's no, you know, you don't see the,

00:34:38.820 the major news outlet. I don't know what he's telling me to get in that. Look, I've never seen

00:34:42.840 them, but I said, if I were you, I said, this is the new journalism, all these, this row and,

00:34:47.480 and, and down that. And then I pointed down the other way, this is journalism, my friend.

00:34:52.180 This is the, the new rise of independent journalism. I said, I don't know what you're

00:34:57.820 doing, but you're asking me a stupid question right now because you're working for a relic. 0.99

00:35:01.820 Nobody cares what you're going to say. I like you, but, but I mean, I don't know what you're 0.99

00:35:06.140 looking at. This is it. And then lo and behold, now Lou, let's just take on Saturday night,

00:35:12.960 Donald Trump's speech on rumble. So he posted it on rumble, just Donald Trump's channel,

00:35:18.680 not including all the other channels. And you'll appreciate this, Luke, cause you're a, cause

00:35:22.720 you're a, uh, you know, you've been around and you know, the ratings business, you know,

00:35:27.120 that Donald Trump, as of today, check this morning, he's, he's over 2.3 million views

00:35:35.780 just on his rumble channel of his speech from, from Saturday night, 2.3 million. And that doesn't

00:35:44.760 include everything else. So the landscape is, is changing and changing rapidly. And I, and you

00:35:50.440 know, I'm just proud to be part of it. Well, you want to be, cause you're, you're building a

00:35:56.460 terrific, terrific competitor, uh, that is sorely needed in, in social media, as you well

00:36:02.640 know. Uh, and, and president Trump, I have to, I have to, I know that, uh, you're close

00:36:08.360 on time, but if we could, I, one last question and then I'll get asked for your concluding thoughts.

00:36:13.360 We always give you the last word, but president Trump is taking on Rupert Murdoch ferociously,

00:36:20.580 uh, going after him, uh, give us your, your thoughts on, on that, uh, and what it's where

00:36:28.420 it heads. He's trying, it seems to destroy, uh, Fox news. Well, look, I think that, that,

00:36:37.900 that, that what people sense and from, you know, president for, first of all, on true

00:36:43.960 social, he's very clear about it. Right. So I'm not saying anything that's any secret

00:36:47.440 here. Uh, yeah, he thinks that, and believes that Fox news is, is out to, is out to hurt

00:36:52.640 him and, and not giving them equal time. And so, and look, I think to some degree that

00:37:00.420 is, that is accurate. But as you know, Lou, there's plenty of people at Fox news that are

00:37:03.840 very supportive of, of president Trump. Um, but you know, and I've never, I've spoke

00:37:08.540 to Rupert Murdoch of, you know, a handful of times. Um, I don't know what the truth is

00:37:13.020 there, but, but look, I mean, I know this, you know, if you just look at what, what happened

00:37:18.980 to them after the election of, of 2000 and I guess 2020, I mean, they, they lost a lot

00:37:26.560 of, of, of conservatives that went over to places like one America news and news max,

00:37:31.480 et cetera. And I, you know, I think those are the, those are the facts and, and, you

00:37:36.780 know, I, I have to venture to guess it's because people didn't like the, the movement that's

00:37:42.420 out there that we talked about at the beginning of the show, the movement, this political

00:37:46.200 movement that started with a guy, a business guy coming down the escalator that's morphed

00:37:50.100 into the biggest, largest political movement in history. That's got all kinds of followers

00:37:53.980 that we talked about. People are rejecting kind of being controlled, right? I mean, they

00:37:59.780 want to see if, if, if Donald Trump holds a rally, they want to see, they want to see

00:38:04.520 the rally and, you know, for whatever reason, I now look, I'll give Fox news credit on Saturday

00:38:09.260 night. They did, they did carry the CPAC speech live, but that was the first live speech that

00:38:15.280 Fox has carried in, in, uh, in two years that I'm, that I'm aware of. Yeah. And me too.

00:38:20.340 I, I, and I was going to point that out that they carry that speech and, and, and good for

00:38:24.480 them. Uh, but I do think that what everyone has to be honest about what has happened here

00:38:28.900 at, uh, uh, uh, in the case of Fox and that is Fox is seen by most conservatives, most America

00:38:37.880 first, uh, Trump supporters across the country, tens of millions of them as a, uh, an election

00:38:45.580 fraud denier, uh, a 2020 election fraud denier. And that's a big deal, uh, because the, the

00:38:53.220 reality is straightforward. There were all sorts of things that took place that conspired

00:38:59.260 to reverse what should have been the presidential history. That is Donald Trump in the Oval Office

00:39:05.840 in 2021, not Joe Biden, uh, whether you're talking about, you know, any number of theories,

00:39:11.860 but there are real obvious one, the obvious one that came out. Okay. That's come out over the last

00:39:17.980 couple of years. That is, that is quite clear that, you know, I don't quite understand, you know,

00:39:24.840 you know, why people aren't covering this more, but it, and it, look, it gets into my realm in the

00:39:30.540 social media world. Facebook put in 400 and some million dollars that went to basically 10 states

00:39:37.780 that went to do what harvest ballots, like just that alone. That's not right. That's not okay.

00:39:45.600 And, and that's why you've seen the rise of independent journalism because you, because the,

00:39:50.660 the traditional outlets for news are not covering that. And that's why you've seen all of these people

00:39:57.480 take off, uh, you know, and Lou, I'll give you another example. That's just, that's just wild.

00:40:01.980 And this is no, like everybody thinks, oh, right. You know, okay. Lou Dobbs is conservative. Fine.

00:40:05.580 Devin Nunes is a conservative. Fine. Get that. Well, then how do you explain a guy named Glenn

00:40:11.360 Greenwald who Lou, I think, you know, his history. He is the guy who found an intercept. He's, he's

00:40:17.280 very left-wing. He got ran out of the intercept because largely because he wouldn't go along with

00:40:22.500 a Russia hoax. I give him credit for that, but he probably doesn't agree with you and I on any issue. 0.59

00:40:26.880 Okay. But he does agree with this, that independent journalism, and I'm going to use the word was

00:40:34.200 dead. And he set out to do something about it. And if you look at what he started just in the last

00:40:40.040 couple of months, he's got a show on rumble. Now he comes on, I think five nights a week and,

00:40:45.660 and Lou, he's getting somewhere anywhere from, from 250,000 viewers to 500,000 meters. I think I've

00:40:53.480 seen even some of his shows over 500,000. He set up a, instead of using Substack, he's actually using

00:41:00.720 a rumble product where he, he posts his stories to his, to his own channel. And so you can't just

00:41:08.080 say this is right wing. No, this is the rise of independent journalism. And yes, it's mostly going

00:41:14.360 to be from the, from the, from the right, because we've been the ones that have been most impacted,

00:41:18.660 but it's also happening on the left. And so, you know, none of these kinds of old relic media

00:41:24.480 companies, they can deny it all they want. Just like that story I told you about that reporter

00:41:28.880 been around Washington, you know, obviously way too long to not see what's happening. I mean,

00:41:35.060 if you just take the views and I'm just talking about what you see on just rumble and true social,

00:41:39.700 I mean, it is staggering the, the, the amount of new content that is out there. That's basically,

00:41:48.260 um, basically coming from in people in, you know, independent journalism, people talking about

00:41:54.000 getting to the truth. Well, and that, and that is a wonderful, wonderful trend that I, I think will,

00:42:02.520 without question, continue. Uh, if I may say, uh, just in agreement with you, uh, Glenn is

00:42:09.380 not only a left-wing journalist, he's got a, he is a distinguished, uh, terrifically talented

00:42:16.940 journalist who I respect mightily. And I can't say that about many people on the left, but he is

00:42:22.680 certainly, uh, uh, I think, uh, chief among those, uh, who are, uh, are doing great things and have done

00:42:29.060 great work throughout their careers. Uh, and speaking of great work throughout, uh, careers, uh, we always

00:42:35.820 appreciate your time. Devin Nunes, uh, appreciate you being with us. We're, uh, we're, we're delighted

00:42:43.540 always to, to learn from you whenever you take time to, to join us. We appreciate it. And, uh, we're

00:42:49.900 going to, uh, let your, your comments be the, uh, your, the concluding thoughts and the last word,

00:42:56.880 if we may, uh, just out of respect for the time, uh, that I know the crunch that you're in. Thanks so

00:43:02.380 much, Devin. God bless you. And, uh, look forward to talking to you soon. Lou, it's all, it's always

00:43:07.080 a pleasure. I look forward to being back on with you. Thanks everybody for being with us. Our guest

00:43:11.080 tomorrow, Senator Marsha Blackburn and Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton. Please be with us till then.

00:43:17.760 Thanks. God bless you. And God bless America.

The Great America Show - March 09, 2023

NO ONE GAVE THIS BUSINESS GUY A CHANCE. THEN TRUMP SHOCKED THE WORLD, CREATING THE BIGGEST POLITICAL MOVEMENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY

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