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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Thank you for being with us

00:01:27.520 here today. The Biden regime in true Marxist fashion officially turning their backs on Israel.

00:01:34.480 Secretary of State Anthony Blinken told Israel it lacks credit to conduct the kind of military

00:01:40.860 campaign it wants to conduct to defeat Hamas. Saying further, the Biden regime wouldn't tolerate

00:01:47.680 large-scale bombing over months in southern Gaza. Blinken's comments were made in a closed-door

00:01:53.960 meeting between IDF chief Hersey Halevi and later leaked to the Israeli press. Here's Secretary of

00:02:02.000 State Tony Blinken after meeting with Netanyahu this week telling the prime minister his country must

00:02:08.100 abide by the rules, that is, the Biden regime's rules, while Hamas commits any and all kinds of terrorism.

00:02:16.740 As I've also said since I first came here after October 7th, the way Israel defends itself matters.

00:02:25.380 It's imperative that Israel act in accordance with internationally humanitarian law and the laws

00:02:30.060 of war, even when confronting a terrorist group that respects neither. In my meetings today with the

00:02:37.160 prime minister and senior Israeli officials, I made clear that before Israel resumes major military

00:02:42.760 operations, it must put in place humanitarian and civilian protection plans that minimize further

00:02:49.520 casualties of innocent Palestinians. Just last week, it was reported that Biden was working behind closed

00:02:55.480 doors on a two-state solution for Israel and the Hamas terrorists. Now, I think, and I hope you agree,

00:03:02.900 that it's been more than adequately demonstrated over the past month and the past decades that there's no

00:03:08.980 such thing as a workable two-state solution for Hamas and Israel. And on Capitol Hill, the Marxist

00:03:15.980 dims and rhinos of the House of Representatives voted to expel Congressman George Santos Friday,

00:03:22.380 making him the sixth House member to be expelled by a vote in congressional history.

00:03:27.260 Speaker Mike Johnson announced the final vote on the floor.

00:03:30.620 On this vote, the yeas are 311, the nays are 114, with two recorded as present. Two-thirds voting in the

00:03:40.620 affirmative, the resolution is adopted, and a motion to reconsider is laid upon the table.

00:03:48.660 The clerk will notify the governor of the state of New York of the action of the House.

00:03:54.120 Under Clause 5D of Rule 20, the chair announces to the House that in light of the expulsion of the gentleman from

00:03:59.720 New York, Mr. Santos, the whole number of the House is now 434.

00:04:03.980 With the new, even slimmer majority of Republicans, 221 to 213, the GOP now can only afford to lose three

00:04:13.740 votes on the floor for bills. You'll recall that Congressman Jamal Bowman is still walking free

00:04:19.800 in the halls of Congress. Bowman, who disrupted an official proceeding when he pulled a fire alarm

00:04:26.020 in the Capitol to disrupt and delay at that vote. Bowman was charged with a misdemeanor and he paid

00:04:32.180 a $1,000 fine. What's the problem here? It seems to be the problem all over the swamp.

00:04:39.020 And a so-called bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation to renew the Foreign Intelligence

00:04:45.360 Surveillance Act and the Section 702 of that act, the Spying on Americans program.

00:04:51.760 This marks the third bill introduced in the past month by the establishment RINOS and

00:04:57.400 Marxist Dems to keep the program going. This latest proposal, which would extend Section 702

00:05:04.400 until 2035, is co-sponsored by Senate Intelligence Committee leaders Mark Warner and Marco Rubio

00:05:12.040 and backed by members like Lindsey Graham, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee.

00:05:17.140 In other words, no one should support this legislation just because of who's sponsoring

00:05:23.060 it. The new measure wouldn't require the FBI, of course, to obtain anything bothersome like a warrant

00:05:28.840 before searching the NSA's massive database for information related to American citizens.

00:05:35.620 And that's something no one should support after we learned the program was used to spy on a

00:05:40.940 sitting president, namely President Donald Trump. Our guest today is former congressman and CEO of the

00:05:47.100 Trump Media and Technology Group, Devin Nunes. Devin, always great to have you with us here.

00:05:52.560 Welcome. And I want to start with the FISA 702 reauthorization. It's now obviously the center of,

00:06:00.020 again, another major fight in the House of Representatives. What is your thinking?

00:06:04.240 Well, it's a deep subject, Lou. I think at the highest level, Americans need answers to the

00:06:15.920 corruption at the DOJ and the FBI. And it dates back to, well, it dates back a long time, but for sure

00:06:23.440 to the Russia hoax and all the way up to today where you see DOJ just targeting Donald Trump on,

00:06:30.720 you know, basically making up crimes, no different than what they've been doing since 2016 when they

00:06:36.580 investigated for the phony Russia hoax. But, you know, there's other challenges too, going back to

00:06:42.260 the IRS scandal under Obama, et cetera, et cetera. So what they have to, what the members of Congress

00:06:52.240 have to grapple with ultimately is, how are you going to stop the corruption at the DOJ that is

00:07:01.440 threatening not only the security of our elections, but the Republican Party itself, where they're

00:07:09.660 essentially trying to jail. I mean, if you think about this, nobody says it, but they're trying to

00:07:14.720 jail the leading candidate for president right now. When I say leading, he's actually leading Biden in the

00:07:19.880 polls also. They're trying to put him in jail. This isn't like some type of, oh, well, it'll be,

00:07:28.060 it's just some court cases. It's just some, you know, issues here or there. No, these are,

00:07:36.840 these, what they're targeting for is to put him in jail, Lou. So on one hand, you have the, you know,

00:07:42.420 the authorization of, of FISA, which I always tell people, and I know this is, it's kind of

00:07:48.900 complicated to understand, but, but it's, it's actually, it comes down to this. FISA was put in

00:07:55.480 after Watergate, when they found out that LBJ, that they went after Nixon, but they actually found

00:08:01.440 out that it was like LBJ and Kennedy and others were using the spy agencies to spy illegally on

00:08:07.680 America. So Congress came up with, with creating the FISA court. So the challenge that you have is

00:08:15.020 that 702 is only one piece of the puzzle. So to just, you know, you don't solve, and I think some

00:08:23.720 of the members of Congress get a little bit, you know, maybe they're confused, maybe they just don't

00:08:28.760 understand, or maybe it's how they articulate it, but just stopping 702 or killing 702 doesn't solve

00:08:35.800 the problem. You have to go back to the base law that created the FISA court in the first place.

00:08:42.320 If you truly want to fix all of the problems and the scandals we have at the Justice Department and

00:08:47.800 the FBI today. So that really is the crux. So yes, there's this, so if you do nothing and 702 expires,

00:08:57.460 it doesn't solve the problem overall. It's just one piece of a, of a much larger puzzle

00:09:05.260 that I think clearly we know now has been used, you know, has been used, you know, and I'm not going

00:09:12.240 to say 702 specifically, but broader FISA has been a big problem. I mean, I was at the heart of all

00:09:18.600 that. I mean, they, they, they used a FISA court to target a presidential candidate back in 2016.

00:09:27.380 That happened to be Donald Trump. And we know that they have also spied on private citizens

00:09:35.820 through the 702s. And as you say, the, the FISA courts are in and of themselves, either it will

00:09:46.180 be very liberal in this. Uh, they're either, uh, very, very sloppy or they're corrupt or both.

00:09:56.840 And they are at, uh, as you suggest, a foundation of a lot of issues. What, how would you go about,

00:10:04.740 um, unwinding, unwinding all of this? Yeah. So what you have to, what you have to look at is,

00:10:16.180 uh, you know, let's just take one important data point. Um, because it's, and I hate to just go back

00:10:21.880 to, uh, the Russia hoax, but it really is pretty, you know, it's, it's an example for kind of

00:10:27.800 everything that's gone wrong because they used everything in the kitchen sink during the Russia

00:10:31.120 hoax, um, at the time. And if you remember, if you go back to Strzok, uh, the lead, one of the lead

00:10:38.080 FBI guys that was investigating Trump counterintelligence, they were using the

00:10:42.360 counterintelligence division of DOJ and FBI. You had his, I don't know, girlfriend, whatever,

00:10:48.620 the Lisa page. Um, they were, if you remember those, the text messages that by the way,

00:10:55.880 judicial watch just was able to uncover that there's still, I don't know, some 1500 pages

00:11:00.960 of text messages that we in Congress should have seen. And back in 2017 and 18, we were not

00:11:06.580 showing that, um, which is a, you know, rather incredible that that's gone on this long. But we

00:11:12.480 know from those text messages and those communications at the time that they were judge

00:11:18.120 shopping at the, to the FISA court, they were looking for specific judges that they knew would

00:11:23.960 be on call at the time when they were going to take things to the court. At least that's what the

00:11:28.860 circumstantial evidence showed, um, is that, is that they were looking for, they were judge shopping.

00:11:34.860 So there, so right there, you know, there's a problem with all of this. Um, look, I think the

00:11:40.680 only solution is, um, and you know, and it's not a, it's not a perfect solution, but it's probably

00:11:47.680 the only solution that would work for the whole, uh, entire, um, apparatus. And that is that

00:11:55.500 the legislative branch, i.e. the U S house and the Senate need representatives as the third branch of

00:12:03.760 government to oversee the executive branch and the judicial branch as it relates to, uh, the ability

00:12:12.100 to, um, to target American citizens. I think that's more important. A lot of people are getting stuck

00:12:17.960 now on a warrant. Well, I mean, as we know, you can get a warrant for anything. So what is that going

00:12:24.460 to really stop? Um, you know, they've proven they can get a warrant to raid the former president's

00:12:30.100 home on a, on a documents hoax. So I think the only way you do that is do it is have, um, you know,

00:12:38.660 each body have multiple representatives from the Congress that, uh, report back to, uh, and work

00:12:45.420 for, uh, the top leaders of both parties, house and Senate. Um, I think that is going to ultimately

00:12:52.680 be the only, the only solution that would make me feel comfortable is having something like that in

00:12:57.720 place. You're talking about oversight. Yeah. And I think, I think in embedded, embedded oversight,

00:13:04.660 um, which work, I know the executive branch and the judicial branch won't like it, but I don't know

00:13:10.740 what else you do because they can't be trusted. I have three branches of government for a reason.

00:13:16.280 Yeah. I, I have to say to you, I don't care what the executive branch likes anymore. I don't care

00:13:21.860 after what they have done to the American people, to a sitting president, uh, to an entire party. Uh,

00:13:28.660 I, I don't care what they like or they don't like. All I can see is, uh, Peter Strzok's evil face

00:13:34.920 appearing out, uh, at the committee, uh, as he basically mocked them, uh, knowing full well that

00:13:42.120 the system was so corrupt that he couldn't be touched. Uh, I, I, I see that vividly. And I assure you

00:13:48.960 that image alone is enough to make me, uh, indifferent to their wishes, preferences or

00:13:54.540 dislikes. Yes, that's exactly right, Lou. And it's not just truck. I mean, he was one of the,

00:14:02.760 one of many bad actors who just didn't give a damn. Um, and it shows, you know, they were just

00:14:07.120 brazen and that's in that going back kind of full circle. You asked me, well, what do you do about

00:14:11.540 702? Like, what does it matter? Like, you're not going to solve, you're not going to ultimately

00:14:16.600 solve the problem here. You know, so that, that's the, that's the challenge. Like you can let 702 go

00:14:23.180 and guess what? Peter Strzok Jr. or other Peter Strzoks who are clearly at the DOJ, clearly with

00:14:29.280 Jack Smith right now, clearly, uh, going other places like Atlanta and New York, you know, people

00:14:35.000 are leaving DOJ going to work for the attorney general of New York, bringing these case, these

00:14:39.100 ridiculous cases against Donald Trump. So if you, if, you know, it should not be, I think members of

00:14:45.760 Congress would do a disservice to say, well, I'm going to stand up and protect your rights and I'm

00:14:50.300 not going to reauthorize 702. Well, you're not, I mean, you know, or you can even get rid of all

00:14:56.580 of FISA, then what? You turn it back over to, you go pre 1978 or whatever that, whenever the original

00:15:02.920 law was passed. So you have to put in, you have to come up with a big picture solution. Um, the only

00:15:10.620 thing that I see that would work is, is having representatives from the legislative branch of

00:15:16.520 government that get to see everything that a judge gets to see that the executive branch is providing

00:15:22.460 so that they, when a Peter Strzok goes there, you know, that there's going to be multiple Republicans

00:15:27.800 from house and Senate, um, that have access to this, but they have the ability to, you know, to,

00:15:35.200 to immediately notify the proper, the appropriate leadership of Congress. Like I understand,

00:15:41.420 and we kind of have a process like that set up that I was involved in that, that seemed to work,

00:15:45.020 you know, pretty well. Um, so it would be modeled after that, which, which was the gang of eight

00:15:50.120 process. So, um, you know, that's, to me, that's the only process that has a chance of working and

00:15:57.160 doing nothing, um, or letting 702 expire. It doesn't matter one way or another, you're not going to get to

00:16:02.960 the heart of the problem. Right. We're talking with Devin Nunes and we're talking about how to fix

00:16:09.080 what is terribly wrong with our federal government that is now under the control of the deep state and

00:16:14.880 the Marxist Dems and make no doubt about it. It is every agency. It is every department. Uh, we continue

00:16:21.480 in just one moment. Please stay with us. We'll be right back.

00:16:24.340 We're back with Devin Nunes and Devin, let's start with that 702. It seems to me for, for the sake of

00:16:38.380 argument, the 702 is a good starting point to simply demonstrate the will of the house, uh, and then move

00:16:46.540 to true reform, uh, as you suggest. Uh, I have a reservation by the way about the gang of eight. Uh,

00:16:54.620 I, I would like to see a broader representation, uh, frankly, rather than allow it to, uh, this

00:17:02.580 critically important oversight of the executive branches, DOJ, particularly DHS, uh, the other

00:17:09.620 agencies. I'd like to see more, more of our representatives, if you will, represented in

00:17:16.420 that oversight function. Am I wrong to think so? Well, that's essentially that that's another way

00:17:23.100 of saying what I was saying, because the gang of eight, and that was one of the problems. The gang

00:17:27.420 of eight had oversight. I was, I was a member of the gang of eight, but we had oversight mainly on,

00:17:33.180 on, on, on overseas military and intelligence matters. So, so we, you know, we didn't, you know,

00:17:39.880 people get the gang of eight confused to be, you know, we, we were not getting briefed on the,

00:17:44.140 you know, highest cases of our, you know, of the government that, you know, on, you know,

00:17:48.660 it really just involved overseas matters. And what I'm saying is that, that that same process,

00:17:56.420 maybe broader, maybe you bring in the judiciary committee, you probably would have to bring in

00:18:00.260 the judiciary committee. So that would be like a Jim Jordan, along with, with the intelligence

00:18:07.120 committees and the, and the leadership, maybe you bring in both the, both leaders, you know,

00:18:13.240 maybe not, you know, not just the speaker, but maybe the majority leader also. So maybe you have

00:18:17.800 four, like, for example, four house Republicans represented. So you have four members of Congress

00:18:24.120 in the room. You know, that could be a, that could, you know, that, that, you know, there's probably a

00:18:30.820 fine line behalf, you know, between having, you know, the right number, you know, having too few or

00:18:38.260 too many, but the key is having the right jurisdiction. So, you know, I, I didn't, as a gang of eight

00:18:43.860 members, you know, I couldn't have went in like today and asked, you know, I'm thinking of, you

00:18:48.920 know, tell me what's going on. And, and, you know, you, you picked the case number, they wouldn't

00:18:53.940 share that with me. You know, they would, they would share things that were happening in, I'm just

00:18:59.480 make believing for today, they would share kind of ongoing things that they were worried that would

00:19:03.900 get out, say, on the situation in, in Israel right now. Right. If there was some major event that

00:19:10.420 was going to take place, they wanted to make sure the Congress knew about it, say it was going to

00:19:13.820 be, you know, some type of military action against some, some, you know, terrorists or,

00:19:20.740 or what have you, or maybe a rescue situation. That was really what the gang of eight was used

00:19:25.200 for. It wasn't used for this. And that's the challenge. There's just not, and I don't know

00:19:30.100 of another process, Lou, because if you do nothing, then you revert back to what was even worse,

00:19:36.620 which would be pre, you know, pre 78, 79, which would be an even worse situation. Then you want to talk

00:19:42.940 about deep state, then they would really laugh all the way to the bank. I mean, the only thing

00:19:46.480 that 702 is the reauthorization, it just happens to be a chance for Congress to get a bite at the

00:19:52.800 apple. But what you're seeing is you're seeing this rush to, well, if we don't do this, really bad

00:19:58.760 things are going to happen. You know, that's what we're being told. Well, yeah, really, really bad

00:20:03.920 things could happen. It's quite possible. I mean, bad things have happened in the past. They're going to

00:20:07.820 happen in the future. Having these tools available are critically important, but not when the tools

00:20:14.400 have all been broken across the board. So, you know, 702, Lou, I don't want to throw out, you know,

00:20:20.300 I'm just going to throw a ballpark kind of numbers here. But as I look, if you ask me, like, what is

00:20:26.620 the problem here? You ask me, you know, give me the problems with the, you know, DOJ, FBI, FISA,

00:20:33.220 the ability to spy on Americans. 702 is a small fraction, small, small fraction. Maybe you could

00:20:39.880 remember, they didn't use 702 to target Donald Trump. They were using straight up, fully authorized

00:20:47.860 FISA to spy on Trump, to spy on the, well, the Trump campaign, to target Trump, to, you know, to

00:20:56.280 target, you know, the Carter pages of the world. That's what they used back in 16. And look, I'm not

00:21:02.360 sure in what they're targeting him with now. I don't think they used the FISA courts at all. They

00:21:07.460 went to just regular judges. And, you know, the DOJ appointed a special counsel in this Jack Smith

00:21:13.820 character. I mean, that's how bad this problem has become. I'm afraid it's even worse than we're

00:21:22.700 discussing, frankly, because I don't think that, given what we're witnessing, why would they go to

00:21:29.740 a judge? They happen to have the organization, the architecture around them, that they can just

00:21:35.620 simply use metadata. They can bore down, mine through whatever they want, or they can go with

00:21:41.820 great specificity to spy on individuals. And by the way, that's happened to both you and me

00:21:47.300 on the part of the federal government. There was no judge involved in that. I am pretty sure

00:21:55.200 they just ordered it up. Well, that lets me put my truth social CEO hat, you know, hat on for this

00:22:04.780 conversation. And, you know, that's one of the things that, you know, we're learning now is just,

00:22:11.220 you know, now that we know there is a free speech platform like true social, you get to see it's now

00:22:17.220 coming out. Now we know why so many former FBI officials and DOJ officials ended up where they ended up

00:22:24.020 working for Facebook and Twitter. That's exactly right. And, you know, not, and I would, I would

00:22:29.120 actually argue that, that it's even worse than that, Lewis. Forget DOJ or FBI doing it. I mean,

00:22:36.180 yeah, I think they've, they've, they utilize those, those, uh, those opportunities as, as well to,

00:22:42.300 to target Americans and other people. Uh, but, but I would argue that probably even worse is the

00:22:49.340 bad political actors that are within these, within these, these huge companies, uh, that can

00:22:55.840 really get in any information at, at any time on any of us. So we know the leadership of all of these

00:23:01.880 big tech giants is all left wing. So what's to stop bad actors from within there, just getting all the

00:23:08.480 information on you. They, they have it at their fingertips, you know? And so it's, it's even worse

00:23:13.880 than that. And they, they could, they could decide to share it with a, a Peter struck Lisa page type

00:23:18.880 that's in the FBI or DOJ or not. They may want to, they may want to share it with a, say a George

00:23:24.620 Soros operation. Um, you know, and it's, I mean, that's, that's, what's even worse. I mean, I think

00:23:30.780 if, if, if somebody wants to target you and they have access to these big tech companies, it doesn't

00:23:36.840 even have to be the U S government, uh, or an official there, it can be, it can be anyone. Um, you know,

00:23:42.740 which is why, you know, a true social, you know, we're so, you know, you know, we are so adamant about,

00:23:48.620 you know, protecting our users. Um, you know, and look, if you do a legal activity on the platform,

00:23:54.980 you know, you're, you're, you're either going to be gone or, you know, we will turn you over to the

00:23:59.360 appropriate authorities. But if you're not conducting any, if you're not doing anything

00:24:03.040 that's illegal, um, you know, we're not going to let the government come in and, and, or anybody

00:24:07.700 else come in and get access to your information. And in fact, we don't even ask for the information,

00:24:11.380 but, um, but these big tech companies have the ability to really track your around.

00:24:18.200 And that stands in stark contrast to what happened with Twitter. Uh, when the federal government came

00:24:24.320 asking the Biden administration comes asking Twitter, uh, for everything connected to Donald

00:24:31.540 Trump's Twitter account, we're in an awful state, just an absolutely awful state. Uh, we now hear that,

00:24:40.260 uh, January six, uh, the FBI had 200 agents in the crowd. Uh, we're going to take that up with Devin

00:24:48.900 Nunes as we continue, uh, this, uh, discussion about, uh, what has happened, uh, uh, to, uh, to 1984.

00:24:57.860 It's starting to feel, uh, a lot that way in 2023. We'll be right back with Devin Nunes. Stay with us.

00:25:04.720 We're back with, uh, Devin Nunes. And I want to, I want to turn to, uh, if we made the January 6th,

00:25:17.200 it's starting to look even worse, uh, than we thought, uh, I guess, uh, if that's possible,

00:25:23.500 uh, but 200 FBI agents it's claimed were in the crowds that day. We've got an FBI that's out of

00:25:31.400 control, a department of justice that's out of control, uh, out of the control of oversight of

00:25:36.660 Congress, certainly. And the people seem to be the target of our government. What is your thinking,

00:25:42.220 Devin, about how we can reverse this? Well, what they're getting away with, forget what they're

00:25:47.100 doing to Donald Trump, which is, which is, uh, you know, beyond anything. It's only what you see

00:25:52.620 in third world countries. And I don't say that lightly, but lesser known is what they're doing to

00:25:57.640 target people who were rightfully at our nation's Capitol. I was there. They were rightfully

00:26:04.120 protesting, uh, you know, a variety of things, but mostly the, you know, they believe the election

00:26:09.900 was, was unfair. There was a process in place. Congress was meeting in order to certify the

00:26:15.620 electors. People have a right to be in Congress. That's, it's our right. And I said that from,

00:26:21.020 from day one. Um, and, and that, that's, what's really kind of scary about this blue is that you

00:26:27.420 had so many Americans who were there expressing their rights, their first amendment rights as U S

00:26:33.200 citizens, like they should have most were there doing that. Right now I've said this also from day

00:26:39.080 one, any of the people who broke windows, that is illegal. That is against the law. You don't,

00:26:45.760 you know, you don't have to have a, uh, you know, I think even my, you know, my young kids, uh, know

00:26:51.380 that, uh, you can't go to the U S Capitol or any government building and use a hammer and break the

00:26:56.500 window and break in. Like, I'm sorry, that's, that's against the law. You should get the maximum

00:27:01.440 time. Anybody who broke those windows and climbed through those windows, sorry, gone. But, you know,

00:27:07.860 for the most part, Lou, I don't know too many of the people that are, that have at least been,

00:27:13.120 that are being held in prison now, uh, or that are, that have been prosecuted that actually

00:27:18.960 broke the windows. And you still have so many people, remember all those famous videos of the,

00:27:23.740 the people covered in masks that were breaking the windows. We don't know who those people are.

00:27:27.240 Um, it seems like those people haven't been, uh, haven't been busted for the most part.

00:27:31.380 I mean, they're prosecuting people who didn't even go inside the building. Now, how is that possible?

00:27:39.900 Um, you know, I even get like the, I understand like,

00:27:43.440 Hey, you know, you had, you know, at some point there's, uh, you know, organizing people to go

00:27:49.060 to DC. Look, that's legal. You can organize, you and I, Luke can go right now. We can organize the

00:27:54.340 protest of whoever we want. And we can tell everybody on our social media, on true social,

00:27:58.900 we can say, Hey, we're going to have, we're going to go to, to, you know, Joe blows, uh,

00:28:03.740 congressional office and Lou and Devin are going to go inside and we're going to try to meet with the

00:28:07.780 staff and we're going to protest. We're going to have our signs. Lou, we can do that. It's legal.

00:28:13.240 Now, where it becomes illegal is if, if, if you and I decide to go take a sledgehammer and break,

00:28:19.380 you know, break a window and break or break a door and go into congressional office. Okay.

00:28:23.540 So that's where the difference is here. And that's why this is so dangerous in that, you know, once

00:28:29.380 again, you had, you know, think about the, the, the, the insurrection that occurred just a few

00:28:35.960 weeks ago of pro Hamas, pro Hamas demonstrators who blocked the entrance in the road around the

00:28:46.080 Capitol. Right now, look that now that's illegal activity. And, but, but they had a right to be

00:28:54.460 there. They had a right to go petition their Congress, but when they didn't sit block, block

00:28:59.220 the Congress, you know, block the, the, the, the roads and all of that, that's where it crossed the

00:29:03.700 line. Yeah. And there, and there's nothing being done about it. Yeah. Nothing happened to it.

00:29:09.760 Wait, why isn't the Republican party, a new speaker, uh, Mike Johnson, why not defund the

00:29:18.120 defilers, uh, the, the people who are abusing power? Uh, we know Jack Smith, I mean, acting in

00:29:25.440 concert with a federal judge, Beryl Howell, uh, to, to restrict Donald Trump, uh, a presumptive,

00:29:34.120 the presumptive presidential nominee, uh, former president, uh, and they're treating

00:29:39.520 him, uh, you know, with just absolute, uh, uh, contempt, uh, of his, uh, constitutional

00:29:47.340 rights. Why isn't the Congress defunding that special counsel right now?

00:29:55.420 Well, look, it's what, it's what, uh, you and I spoke about, uh, several months ago. I remember

00:30:00.620 the first interview, you know, you asked me, what would you do? And I, and I was very clear. I said,

00:30:05.960 look, the last thing you want to do, cause everybody gets fixated on, oh, well, we should

00:30:10.260 pass normal bills, go through the process, blah, blah, blah. And I said, no, I said, all

00:30:16.180 you should do is do short term CRs until you can get answers from the department of justice

00:30:25.340 and the FBI on two very important subjects. One, their overall corruption from Donald Trump

00:30:31.260 to the Rush Oaks to everything else. Why? Nothing's happened to any of them. Right. And

00:30:35.360 you don't let them go into, and you don't fund the government until Ray and all of them

00:30:39.340 give all the information on all of that, whether it's the struck and page text messages that

00:30:43.760 Congress still doesn't have, or whether it's, you know, stopping Jack Smith, all of that

00:30:48.520 should come to an end. That's, that's first and foremost. Okay. Secondly, we have an invasion

00:30:53.860 at the border, which by the way, the department of justice is also involved in that because

00:30:57.100 they're not even prosecuting anyone. They're too busy tracing Trump around. So I think

00:31:02.420 that, I mean, look, that to me has been the only strategy that will work. If not, you're

00:31:07.520 going to end up, you know, you mark my words. It doesn't, and I kind of, I think kind of

00:31:12.160 hinted at this before. It doesn't matter what the speaker's name is. Ultimately, when you

00:31:17.220 got like a three seat majority in the house and you got a Senate controlled by Democrats

00:31:21.460 and you have Biden in the white house, you know, if you play with them, you're ultimately

00:31:25.380 going to get an omnibus bill or you're going to pass appropriations bills that are just

00:31:29.400 going to continue government as usual. And so, you know, I think, and I understand like,

00:31:35.240 you know, our, you know, some of my fellow colleagues say, well, CRs are bad. It means

00:31:38.780 we're not doing our job. Well, not necessarily. I mean, that may be the only way to bring

00:31:44.720 accountability. If, you know, if you're basically on the verge of shutting down the

00:31:48.800 government, you know, then what I would do is I'd be calling in Ray, calling in Jack Smith

00:31:52.720 and saying, look, if Jack Smith and Chris Ray and Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco don't

00:31:58.920 come in and provide these 10 things, if they provide these 10 things, the government will

00:32:04.140 get funded for 30 more days. And then we'll review those, those things that we, that we

00:32:08.700 are missing. And then we will decide if we're going to fund the government after that. Like

00:32:12.920 that's the only leverage you have. And it, and it puts a spotlight is, because what you don't

00:32:17.900 want to fall into is, and I think this has been the challenge, Lou, is that every, and

00:32:23.480 I get it, every member of Congress has everything they're interested in. And there's a, it's a

00:32:27.280 big government. There's a lot of things for them to oversee, but that it's easy for the

00:32:31.600 public to get lost in the minutiae, bringing three or four individuals demanding that they

00:32:37.360 come to the Congress before the government is funded. People understand that. And people

00:32:42.880 get that. They don't understand, you know, a hundred different issues, all important,

00:32:48.580 but nothing more important than basically the election interference that's going on right

00:32:54.400 now in 2024. And I think that's the biggest challenge that the, that the Republicans have

00:32:59.180 is you have so many never Trump fools. It's foolish for, for, you know, the, you know, you

00:33:08.000 don't have to like Trump, but I'm sorry, if you're a U S representative or U S Senator

00:33:13.100 at this point, you know, you have a responsibility. You're, you know, the Republican party is going

00:33:19.720 to be, is going to be, nothing's going to be left, but dust and ashes if they don't do

00:33:25.180 anything. So you don't have to like Trump, but guess what? The Republican party, the American

00:33:29.720 people have decided through poll after poll after poll that they like Donald Trump. So if

00:33:35.560 you're an elected representative and you don't like, like Trump, that's fine. You don't have to,

00:33:40.560 but what are you going to do about protecting the integrity of the election? And if you're

00:33:44.780 not speaking out against it, which I don't think I've heard very many leaders speak out against

00:33:49.340 the, what's happening, at least in the Senate, um, to, to Donald Trump or, or January six prisoners

00:33:55.840 for that matter, what, what do you, you know, you're not going to have a, a party left.

00:34:00.620 Yeah. You're going to have one rule. You're going to have, you're going to be ruled by,

00:34:04.020 as you say, the Marxist,

00:34:05.560 I just want to say, first of all, thanks for joining us today and for your, uh, your insights

00:34:14.920 and your judgment. Uh, Mike, Mike Johnson, the new speaker, uh, there is reporting that

00:34:22.780 he is going to go for a one year seat, including seven appropriators. Uh, he's not removing them

00:34:28.900 from committees and that we are likely to see just more of the same. At least that's the

00:34:34.120 reporting. We don't know the facts because Johnson hasn't seen fit to share that with

00:34:38.700 the public. I mean, look, I would, I would, uh, the only way a CR works, um, you know,

00:34:45.780 is if you do short-term CRs, continuing resolutions. Um, and look, there's a lot of moving parts right

00:34:51.700 now, but I'm sure what the Senate leadership on both the Democrat and the, and the Republican

00:34:56.540 side, they want to get like a couple big fat omnibus bills where they, where they roll a bunch

00:35:02.760 of appropriations built together, uh, and some writers, uh, you know, the, the policy writers

00:35:08.620 that write on top of that and jam it and jam it through. And I think that that's why I go back to

00:35:14.420 the best and only strategy are short-term CRs. That's, that's what I'd be advocating now. But

00:35:21.220 look, Lou, it's easy for me and you, I mean, we're not, we know, we're not, we're not, we're not

00:35:25.240 there every day, but, uh, look, you know, we have our rights, uh, to, to give our opinions.

00:35:31.280 Amen. And thank you for sharing yours, Devin. We appreciate it. Devin Nunes, God bless you.

00:35:37.280 Thank you. Thanks a lot, Lou. Great to be with you as always.

00:35:39.720 Thank you everybody for being with us here today. Please join us tomorrow.

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