The Great America Show - OBAMA AND HIS MARXISTS ARE IN CONTROL

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show, and thanks for being

00:00:07.660 with us. President Trump's set to appear in a Fulton County courthouse this afternoon,

00:00:13.260 where, as he put it, he'll be proudly arrested and where he'll face a 13-count indictment

00:00:18.620 by the Marxist district attorney Fannie Willis. Trump will plead not guilty and has to post

00:00:25.060 $200,000 in bail. President Trump's former attorney, Rudy Giuliani, turned himself in

00:00:31.320 yesterday morning and had this to say about the case. I'm feeling very, very good about it because

00:00:36.780 I feel like I'm defending the rights of all Americans, as I did so many times as a United

00:00:41.440 States attorney. People like to say I'm different. I'm the same Rudy Giuliani that took down the mafia

00:00:47.560 that made New York City the safest city in America, produced crime more than any mayor in the history

00:00:54.000 of any city, anywhere, and I'm fighting for justice. I have been from the first moment.

00:00:59.120 I represented Donald Trump, an innocent man who has now been proven innocent several times.

00:01:04.860 I don't know how many times he has to be proven innocent, and they have to be proven to be liars.

00:01:12.280 Actually, enemies of our republic who are destroying rights, sacred rights. They're destroying my right

00:01:18.660 to counsel. My right to be a lawyer. They're destroying his right to counsel. It's not accidental

00:01:23.820 that they've indicted all his lawyers. I've never heard of that before. In America, all the lawyers

00:01:29.000 indicted. Now, whether you dislike or you like Donald Trump, let me give you a warning. It's going to come

00:01:36.100 for you. When the political winds shift, as they always do, let us pray that Republicans are more

00:01:45.860 honest, more trustworthy, and more American than these people in charge of this government. Because

00:01:52.040 if our government is conducted this way, and the system of justice is politicized and criminalized

00:01:58.720 for politics, your rights are in jeopardy and your children's. Donald Trump told you this. They

00:02:05.460 weren't just coming for him or me. Now they've indicted people in this case. I don't even know

00:02:11.540 who they are. These are just regular people making a normal living. They're going to bankrupt.

00:02:17.160 They won't convince them. The return of COVID is here, and it's here just in time for the 2024

00:02:23.100 election season. And you know what that means. The Marxist Dems will be looking to lock down

00:02:29.820 every business, every institution, every place of worship. We'll be wearing, or at least being

00:02:36.400 called upon to wear, masks, and children will no longer be in their classrooms. And the Marxist Dems

00:02:43.680 will be using their old tricks, including, of course, early mail-in voting. And there is a new

00:02:50.360 report from the CDC saying the new BA 2.86 COVID strain is more capable than other variants in

00:02:59.300 causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19. Or, are you ready? Those who've already

00:03:07.860 been vaccinated. You heard me correctly. You are more likely to get the new strain of COVID if you've

00:03:15.280 been vaccinated. The CDC also saying a current increase in hospitalizations is not likely driven

00:03:23.660 by this new variant. So here we go again. And none of this is stopping, of course, Joe Biden from

00:03:30.260 launching his latest spending spree called Project NextGen. It costs the taxpayers $1.4 billion,

00:03:37.720 and the money goes toward a new generation of tools and technologies, they say, to protect against

00:03:43.840 COVID-19 for years to come. Well, there it is. And a Daily Mail exclusive out yesterday shedding a

00:03:51.700 brighter light on how the Biden's infiltration of the federal government has allowed them to get away

00:03:57.220 with so much corruption. We reported to you earlier in the week that Oversight Committee Chairman James

00:04:03.380 Comer demanded the National Archives turn over all documents and emails that refer to Joe Biden's

00:04:10.360 pseudonyms. The Daily Mail now reporting a Delaware prosecutor named Alexander Mackler,

00:04:16.860 who worked on investigating Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings, turns out he was so close,

00:04:22.940 in fact, to the Biden family that he actually used Joe Biden's secret email address to talk with the

00:04:29.960 president. Mackler is now the deputy attorney general of Delaware and worked as a campaign manager

00:04:36.080 for Joe Biden's late son, Beau's 2010 campaign for attorney general in Delaware.

00:04:43.580 Let's go to our guest now. Joining us now is Tom Fitton. He is the president of Judicial Watch,

00:04:48.820 one of the country's most important watchdog groups. Tom, great to have you back with us here

00:04:53.300 on The Great America Show. We're watching this Department of Justice set some sort of record for

00:04:58.800 malfeasance, corruption and in your face, bald face abuse of power. And no one is even remarking

00:05:06.180 on what Merrick Garland has done here. It's incredible. Your thoughts, Tom?

00:05:11.600 You know, you're right. The Justice Department is in a state of ethical collapse. I mean,

00:05:16.400 you've got two components of it interrelated, two sides of the same coin, which is the abusive

00:05:23.300 targeting of Trump, indicting him about nothing, essentially trying to jail him for having a

00:05:28.800 different political point of view and policy view than Biden on elections, punishing him for disputing

00:05:35.060 elections and warning others, have you dispute elections? You'll go to jail, too. And then the

00:05:40.380 invert, you know, and the other side of that coin is, well, you know, let's go after Trump and hopefully

00:05:46.420 people are distracted from the Biden corruption. And so you've got Garland and Weiss and other senior

00:05:53.400 officials at the Justice Department, FBI's IRS caught red-handed in obstructing and engaging in

00:06:02.140 overt acts, right, to protect the Bidens from any serious criminal investigation. And over the weekend

00:06:10.580 that was exposed, I guess, Hunter Biden's people put out documents showing that the Biden regime was

00:06:18.120 prepared to issue no indictments against Hunter Biden until the IRS whistleblowers came forward and

00:06:25.300 said there was obstruction of justice going on. And then they came up with a sweetheart plea deal that

00:06:30.320 would have put him out to mild tax crimes with no effective jail time and a dangerously broad and

00:06:39.060 unprecedented immunity agreement, given the circumstances. And so all that's happening.

00:06:46.320 And what do we get? We get another indictment of Trump down in Georgia. As if it could get worse,

00:06:52.100 it did get worse because the Georgia indictment stands out as being a complete legal fiction

00:06:59.400 that has no basis in fact or law in the sense that it alleges no criminal activity by Joe Biden

00:07:09.040 by President Trump, frankly, anyone else, as best I could tell, that would subject these innocents

00:07:16.800 to court process and having their lives torn apart. It's a terrible state our country's in and it's all

00:07:22.960 election interference and there's no, you know, now we know, you know, the Democrats in Fulton County want

00:07:29.200 this trial to go on in the middle of next year. The Democrats in D.C. want the trial to begin

00:07:36.080 the beginning of next year, right in the middle of the primary campaigns. And who are they fooling?

00:07:42.620 Who are they fooling? Three years and they wait till the primaries to start indicting?

00:07:48.560 It's it's it's stunning stuff. There's no doubt about it. I cannot get over Merrick Garland's move with

00:07:55.680 David Weiss. That is an extraordinary piece of corruption and abuse of power right in front of

00:08:05.520 the cameras and turn up the microphones, ladies and gentlemen, because here is Merrick Garland showing

00:08:11.360 you just exactly how government corrupt government works. And there is so little reaction to it.

00:08:20.400 You get you get caught red handed, engaged in being responsible for, in the least,

00:08:28.560 obstruction of justice, potentially. And you're rewarded with a prominent position as a special

00:08:36.240 counsel, even though you should be subject to investigation, given the facts and circumstances

00:08:42.240 that have been testified to by these IRS agents, investigators in Congress and elsewhere. And it's in

00:08:50.400 your face. Right. It's you know, I keep on saying this goes back to the Obama way. Right. It's catch me if you

00:08:56.800 can. I'm going to do it. And you catch me if you can and stop me if you can. And they think they can't be

00:09:03.920 stopped. And and, you know, maybe from their perspective, that's not a bad bet. Yeah, it's not

00:09:09.840 one irrational or it's certainly been their experience. So they're relying on experience and

00:09:15.840 their judgment, which has been pretty foolproof to this point, because five years delay on the

00:09:22.720 part of David Weiss, the U.S. Attorney for Delaware, letting the statute of limitations run on everything

00:09:30.000 material, substantive, I would and most serious in the way of violations by Hunter Biden and then to

00:09:38.240 come back and him the the special counsel. I mean, that's you almost have to say, you know,

00:09:46.000 if you're going to be a corrupt official of the United States government, you're really setting blazing

00:09:52.320 new paths, Merrick Garland. I mean, this almost deserves a salute of some kind. And I would guess

00:09:58.480 it would be something a little more out of I shouldn't use the word salute, a gesture of some

00:10:04.480 kind. Well, you know, and and it just further confirms as if we need further confirmation,

00:10:11.440 but it dramatically confirms that the Justice Department is going to do nothing right there.

00:10:17.680 They can't be trusted. They were in a state of ethical collapse. They're they're literally trying

00:10:22.400 to jail Trump immediately while engaging in unprecedented maneuverings and machinations to

00:10:30.480 protect the Biden crime family. And so, you know, what do you do in those circumstances? Well,

00:10:36.480 you see what powers are available in Washington, D.C. to enforce the world law. Obviously,

00:10:41.200 the Justice Department of the President got powers over the executive branch, but the legislative branch has

00:10:47.360 its powers as well. And so everything we're complaining about, and I would dare say even the

00:10:53.040 indictments in New York and Georgia, Congress can curtail or stop, certainly in Washington, D.C.,

00:11:01.600 stop completely. They can defund the Justice Department's prosecutions of Trump and other

00:11:09.360 innocence. They can require the appointment of a serious special counsel investigation.

00:11:16.640 You know, it's not going to be perfect, but better than what it is now that's broad based in nature

00:11:23.520 through funding mechanisms. They can also require the impeachment of Trump to, you know,

00:11:29.680 there's going to be a big government funding fight, right? At the end of the year, if it passes any

00:11:33.920 prologue. And so people fight, well, I want this in. Otherwise, the government will shut down.

00:11:39.360 Well, I would suggest those are the sorts of things they want in. For instance, I want an impeachment

00:11:44.320 inquiry. Otherwise, I'm not funding government. Or dare I say, I want Biden to resign. Otherwise,

00:11:50.240 I'm not funding this government. And if people were serious, they'd be back in town right now,

00:11:55.840 debating these issues and figuring out ways to ensure the rule law is upheld and our republic is

00:12:01.120 protected. But instead, they're in the middle of a seven week congressional recess that doesn't end

00:12:07.440 for three more weeks. It doesn't come. They don't get back until September 12th.

00:12:11.280 Yeah. I don't understand why Kevin. Well, I shouldn't say I don't. I don't understand entirely

00:12:20.640 why Kevin McCarthy doesn't have the spine, the guts, the sense of responsibility and duty

00:12:27.200 to bring that special session of Congress right now and begin the impeachment inquiry. There is

00:12:35.600 nothing here. It's not a court of law, is it? It's it's not even a matter of a formula in the in

00:12:44.960 congressional procedure. This is a known criminal in the White House. We have evidence of all sorts of

00:12:53.840 wrongdoing and corruption, not just on Hunter Biden's part, but on the person who was providing

00:13:00.560 the influence that they peddled. And there is no more no clear circumstance that I've ever seen

00:13:08.400 before an impeachment proceeding, whether it be Nixon or or Johnson. It's just absolutely ridiculous

00:13:16.880 that they cannot bring themselves to muster the courage and the defensive principle and and right

00:13:24.800 and wrong writ large over the nation's capital. They're scared to death, aren't they?

00:13:30.480 Yeah. Fear based decision making is kind of been a big issue in Washington, D.C. these past few years.

00:13:36.720 And and and I understand politically and believe in and I'm I'm a nice guy, Lou.

00:13:44.400 I know you're a nice guy and I'm sympathetic to the concerns that the boy, the politics of impeachment

00:13:50.400 may not unnerve to the benefits Republicans. But that isn't the point, isn't it? You know,

00:13:55.680 and I understand that may be the case, but I don't see how someone who has sworn an oath to hold the

00:14:01.680 Constitution and Congress can do anything other than that, pursue impeachment against Joe Biden

00:14:07.200 and others. It's like they don't have a choice. Right. And they may not work out the way they want

00:14:13.200 and they may lose in the Senate or whatever. But that process is important. And I think the American

00:14:19.440 people want accountability. And I think the danger and I would say the the the the opposite of that

00:14:25.680 analysis is that politically, if they keep on complaining about buying corruption and not do

00:14:30.640 anything about it, they're obviously going to, you know, people are going to kind of become immune

00:14:35.680 to the criticisms and, you know, discount them. But secondly, those who support Republicans and might

00:14:42.160 be more likely to vote for them are going to be less likely to vote for them because they're going to

00:14:46.720 see inaction in the face of corruption like we've never seen in history. I've jokingly said,

00:14:51.440 and I don't know if it's true anymore because he may be slightly more corrupt that Joe Biden

00:14:56.320 is the most corrupt president since he was vice president. Well, he's taking care of two offices

00:15:02.960 for sure in one corrupt fell swoop. We're talking with Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch.

00:15:12.080 We're going to take up the issue of just how corrupt this administration is. If you don't have a good

00:15:18.320 good understanding of it yet, this will be the time. And also, what does that make

00:15:24.480 the Republican Party if it doesn't choose to assert itself and to right the wrongs that are absolutely

00:15:34.000 dominating the D.C. swamp? We'll be right back.

00:15:37.600 We're back. We're talking with our good friend Tom Fenton, the president of Judicial Watch.

00:15:48.160 Tom, I just want to turn to the Republican role here and try to understand it because

00:15:53.280 we know that these the heads of these three committees, investigating committees, Jim Jordan,

00:16:00.960 obviously also chairs the judicial, the judiciary and the subcommittee on weaponization, along with

00:16:09.600 Jason Smith at Ways and Means and James Comer at House Oversight. They're doing terrific work.

00:16:16.560 They've done better, I think, in many respects than than I thought, not as well as I had hoped,

00:16:23.280 but better than I thought. That's my judgment to yours. What is yours?

00:16:28.720 I agree. And I think they've smartly, for instance, released information as they found it, as opposed

00:16:33.760 to waiting for a report a year and a half from now. So there has been a little bit more urgency than

00:16:41.440 has typically been followed by prior Republican investigations. And, you know, I guess, you know,

00:16:51.120 where they're falling, where they're falling is the unwillingness to kind of pursue the

00:16:56.560 accountability part of it. And if I were them from the beginning, I would have said, look,

00:17:00.880 we're going to be doing hearings and investigations, but it's all because we're in the penalty phase,

00:17:05.760 right? We've got an impeachment inquiry going on, and we're gathering facts and evidence related to

00:17:11.440 impeachment. And that would have escalated it immediately, legally and politically, and I think

00:17:17.760 policy wise as well. And instead, though, you know, they're still doing this, this, and I don't mean

00:17:26.240 Jordan and Comer, you know, I kind of could guess where they stand if they were asked directly. But

00:17:32.400 certainly Speaker McCarthy is, and it doesn't go forward without his explicit support, I think,

00:17:37.840 is, you know, doing this Hamlet like, you know, to be or not to be with respect to an impeachment

00:17:45.120 inquiry. I think the only Hamlet to be or not to be is whether we vote to impeachment or not

00:17:51.600 after this inquiry is completed. But there should be, I mean, there's no question there's an inquiry

00:17:57.600 needed. Now people can decide whether to vote at the end of the process. Exactly. But you can't,

00:18:01.680 you got to get that process going. And it's inexcusable, in my view, that it hasn't happened yet.

00:18:06.720 And I, and frankly, even the, let's take the corruption out of it, Lou. I mean, you're,

00:18:12.400 you're an expert more than most on government spending and our economic, our economy and the

00:18:19.040 threats to it. And their way for two, two months, as we're facing another quote, fiscal cliff, inflation

00:18:29.760 is becoming almost a, um, endemic and, and, and long, you know, it's going to be part of the economy

00:18:38.400 forever and a day, as long as the left is running the show and nothing's done about it from Congress.

00:18:45.040 And, um, so you've got this roughly good spending inflation, that inflation, that is becoming a, uh,

00:18:53.760 a perpetual threat and Congress is away for two months as they're, and they're going to come back

00:19:00.640 and argue, um, spend six weeks fighting about whether just to let it continue to operate as it's

00:19:09.120 been operating in the last 10 years, but even worse at increased rates in terms of government spending.

00:19:15.600 So it, to me, it's a big fail all around and, um, it's exceedingly frustrating, but thankfully

00:19:22.640 I'm over at judicial watch. So at least we can do what we can do. Right. Which is so we just sued

00:19:27.200 the CIA for its role in the, uh, effort to, uh, into, interfere in the election in 2020 by putting out that

00:19:37.280 false information about the Hunter Biden laptop by suggesting it was Russia disinformation.

00:19:42.400 Uh, the famous 51 or infamous 51, uh, Intel veterans who signed on five C former CIA directors

00:19:52.640 among them. Uh, and God bless you for doing that. Uh, and, and, and they have to ask the question,

00:19:59.200 why didn't someone anywhere act? Why in the world, uh, isn't that within the purview of the Republican

00:20:07.760 party to have done so in the instant? Uh, I mean, the moment it was, uh, October, I I'm going to say

00:20:14.000 somewhere around October 24th that that occurred. Uh, it was a shield for, uh, for Joe Biden and it

00:20:21.760 changed the outcome. One can argue that it changed the outcome of that election in and of itself,

00:20:26.880 because it gave him a shield in the debate with president, uh, Trump.

00:20:31.040 Yes. And there's information that's come out of Congress. So I know because we reviewed it,

00:20:36.400 you know, um, and highlighted it in the press release about our lawsuit, you know, Congress

00:20:40.720 knows some of the details about what the CIA was up to. A, they rushed the approval of this letter,

00:20:45.760 because if you have a security clearance, sometimes you have to get approval from your

00:20:50.880 agency before, you know, the agency that's granted it, if you're going to start making noises about

00:20:55.760 classified judgments, uh, or the judgments that are potentially classified. So the CIA rushed it

00:21:01.680 through for these Democrats and leftists. And then it looks like there was at least someone in the CIA

00:21:07.680 who was pushing for people to sign the letter. So, uh, you have the left complaining about the CIA

00:21:14.960 for decades, you know, interfering in elections abroad. Uh, but here we have evidence they interfere

00:21:20.640 here at home. And this is evidence that Congress has, and they've done nothing with.

00:21:25.360 And I'm getting tired of it. I'm just getting tired of it. You know, I judicial watch can

00:21:30.000 release documents and do reports, Lou. We're a nonprofit. We're a non-governmental organization.

00:21:36.320 We, we can't prosecute anyone. We can't defund anyone. We can't impeach anyone.

00:21:41.920 You know, but Congress can get all of that done in part. And they don't want to. And, um,

00:21:48.240 instead they just want to, you know, mimic judicial watch, which is fine, you know, flattery.

00:21:54.320 It's great. Uh, imitation is a sincere form of flattery, but they got to do more. And, um,

00:22:00.640 I think they recognize that. Uh, that's why I think, um, for all of my criticism, you know,

00:22:07.440 McCarthy is, is politically attuned to what's good for his interest. Right.

00:22:12.320 I'd say highly attuned. And he's the fact that he's mentioning the I word is a remarkable

00:22:18.960 development. So let's push him to do the right thing. You know, they oftentimes politicians won't

00:22:26.160 do the right thing unless pushed and pressured by the vote in public. And people who are concerned

00:22:31.200 and who are listening right now, if they're, if they share, you know, share your views to be direct,

00:22:36.800 share your views, wherever they are by calling your member of Congress. And the number is easy

00:22:41.200 to remember. It's two Oh, two, two, two, five, three, one, two, one, two, two, two, five, three,

00:22:46.880 one, two, one. And the operator will ask who you want to talk to. You say, I want to talk to so

00:22:51.520 and so your member of Congress or one of your two senators, and then tell them what you think. Be

00:22:57.280 be polite, but be direct. Yeah, no, I think that is sage advice. And we will, we will follow your

00:23:06.400 suggestion. We'll put that number up on every social media. We've got every website, every whatever

00:23:12.560 we've got to communicate in this country. It's it is at the at the very least dumbfounding to me

00:23:23.040 that there is no passion in in this Congress. I saw a great passion on at the beginning and the

00:23:32.480 vote for the speaker. I mean, it was a remarkable moment in American history to watch that negotiation

00:23:40.720 in the House of Representatives for the speakership 15 votes. And I mean, people were

00:23:45.600 actually out there, you know, banging their fists and they were in each other's faces, nose to nose.

00:23:51.840 And we haven't seen that since, in my opinion. And why did how could we lose it? Because they should

00:23:59.840 be on C-SPAN every night doing all of their business, all that they legitimately can in the

00:24:07.120 full view of the American people. This is outrageous stuff that they've revealed. It is on its face enough

00:24:14.800 to proceed with, at the very least, an impeachment inquiry, as you say. What are we to do?

00:24:21.680 I think the political mistake they've made, and I don't want to belabor it because it is just a

00:24:26.080 political analysis. So, you know, who knows if I'm right or not. But, you know, I know there it's

00:24:31.840 a relatively small majority for Republicans, right? So, in kind of policy issues, there might be kind

00:24:38.320 of a, you know, there could be just some dissent and discord within the caucus, right? And, you know,

00:24:45.440 I can understand a speaker and the leadership having to manage that. On the other hand, when it comes to,

00:24:51.200 like, battling government corruption and demanding transparency

00:24:55.200 and accountability, they should have made the decision early on, we're going to operate as if

00:25:00.160 we have a 60-seat majority. And we're just going to run, run it through. Impeachment, whatever it is

00:25:07.600 we need to do, we're going to, we're just going to get it done. And we're not going to let, you know,

00:25:13.840 the typical moderate versus conservative Republican fight get in the way of this because we're all on

00:25:19.680 the same page here. And that's where I think the leadership missed the opportunity

00:25:23.600 to take hold of that. And because I think they would have had strong support, as you suggest,

00:25:28.400 early on. But instead, it's just kind of meandered. And I don't know about you, Lou. I mean,

00:25:34.240 I'm sure you talk to members, including members who are typically friendly to us on these issues.

00:25:40.080 You know, talk about listless boats. They don't know what to do.

00:25:44.800 Did you use the L word?

00:25:46.080 I did.

00:25:46.800 We're talking about Governor DeSantis' listless vessels that he called all of us who are,

00:25:57.520 consider ourselves America first Americans supporting Donald Trump. You know, I wouldn't

00:26:04.480 like being called a listless vessel, no matter who I was supporting. What a silly nonsensical thing. But

00:26:10.080 that's the we're officially in the silly season when the when the profound issues like the ones that

00:26:17.920 Tom and I are discussing right now.

00:26:19.520 Well, you raise the presidential campaign. I did it.

00:26:22.720 I know.

00:26:23.520 And I want and I want, you know, and my criticism of the Republicans in Congress applies also to the

00:26:30.160 leaders and some of the Republicans seeking the member of the presidency.

00:26:33.280 Yeah, I've seen a lack of imagination and a lack of leadership on these corruption issues.

00:26:41.200 And, you know, at best, it's like, oh, we've got to let the process lay out or what's going on is

00:26:46.800 bad. You know, we can't wait for them to, quote, win the nomination. And we all know how that's going

00:26:51.680 to turn out for many of them. You know, they need to be demanding what we're demanding. Right.

00:26:56.880 They need to be taking leadership to try to save the country now. We can't wait.

00:27:00.960 Who could be in the jail could be in jail during the middle of next year soon, as soon as the

00:27:07.840 middle of next year. We're going to take up this next question that I utter right after this quick

00:27:13.920 break. Who among them does Judicial Watch's Tom Fenton believe is truly a leader? There are eight of

00:27:21.600 them. I can't wait to hear Tom's answer. Can you stay with us? We'll be right back.

00:27:26.880 We're back with our friend Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch. All right. Let's you blame me

00:27:39.040 for raising the issue of the presidential election. So I'll just continue to give you some more ammunition.

00:27:47.200 Who among the eight who will be in that debate do you deem to be a prospective leader of the United

00:27:54.560 States and indeed the free world? Well, I I'm not I don't endorse candidates.

00:28:02.880 So I kind of like highlight what I look for from any leader. Right. Or anyone seeking office from.

00:28:10.400 And I want someone who understands the crisis we're in and has a plausible way of dealing with it

00:28:16.640 or maybe an implausible way, but it's willing to work to it by provide work for it by providing leadership.

00:28:23.680 And, you know, like I was taking with the VEX.

00:28:27.360 It's not an endorsement of the VEX, but he specifically talked about basically dismantling the FBI. Right.

00:28:35.360 And and and and and passing out its authorities to various other federal agencies.

00:28:41.200 And, you know, whether it passes muster, even as a policy, I'm not sure what I'm like.

00:28:48.560 Well, this is the this is the sort of thinking we should be expecting from all the candidates.

00:28:53.280 What are they going to do to address the crisis where we have federal agencies who think they're above the law, above the Constitution and outside the

00:29:01.600 the review and and authority of the American people?

00:29:08.080 And to me, that's a crisis. And of course, we also have a crisis where an entire political party

00:29:13.440 has decided that they can use the powers of the federal government to try to jail and abuse their political opponents.

00:29:20.800 And they've broken the law six ways to Sunday to do that.

00:29:24.720 What are you going to do to make sure that they face consequences?

00:29:27.920 And I haven't heard much of that, frankly, from anybody.

00:29:32.480 And, you know, even President Trump should speak more on that.

00:29:37.280 I mean, he's spoken generally about it as to what he'd like to see done.

00:29:41.760 But I would if I were him, I would I would firm out the details like presidents have the authority, for instance, to appoint special counsels.

00:29:48.960 I think that's what they should be talking about.

00:29:50.560 They should be with respect to the Justice Department decision making saying that they're not going to be doing it without my oversight because they report to me.

00:30:03.040 They they're they're not a power on to themselves.

00:30:05.520 You know, we've got to take back our government from the from the political class and the permanent bureaucracy that certainly in the case of the Justice Department is viciously partisan and liberal.

00:30:20.940 It's it's it's all of that and so much more.

00:30:24.900 Our government right now, I believe, Tom, is in the hands of the Marxist Dems who are in charge of the Democrat Party, who are in charge of this White House.

00:30:35.100 Anyone who thinks that Joe Biden is making profound decisions about national security, domestic policy, cultural issues that cut across our society and will have leave lasting impact for decades to come is crazy.

00:30:53.680 I mean, absolutely.

00:30:54.880 He's he's you're as crazy as is Joe Biden, if you believe that, you know, it's an O Biden.

00:31:02.020 Exactly.

00:31:02.620 This is the third term of Barack Obama.

00:31:06.700 One can argue, do I have proof?

00:31:08.920 No, but I have very good judgment and a strong view of it.

00:31:13.320 There is no other explanation.

00:31:16.060 70 of the first 100 people hired by the Biden administration were were from the Obama administration.

00:31:24.260 Susan Rice is still a strong voice and seldom seen and heard.

00:31:31.220 But her her fingerprints are everywhere and the list goes on.

00:31:37.760 It's just remarkable what the country has acceded to the national left wing media, which is corporatist Marxist media.

00:31:46.720 The people won't acknowledge that corporate America is no longer corporate America.

00:31:52.180 It is corporate global and it's Marxist.

00:31:56.060 It is at the very least amongst those more reserved and modest.

00:32:00.240 It is socialist.

00:32:01.060 And they are trying to ape their European counterparts primarily and kowtow and pander to their Chinese betters, at least in their view.

00:32:14.620 Don't you think?

00:32:15.320 Yeah, I think we're in a revolutionary period here in the United States where these rising communists have taken effective control of these institutions, the Democratic Party.

00:32:29.620 And I don't and you know me long enough.

00:32:31.760 I don't really like to get into too many Democrat versus Republican discussions because I try to stick to the ideology.

00:32:39.880 But there is a party apparatus here that has decided that, you know, we don't believe in the rules anymore.

00:32:45.620 We don't believe in the Constitution and we can argue whether they ever did, but that's a political fight.

00:32:51.040 But when they disavow the First Amendment, when they attack folks and try to jail them for exercising their First Amendment rights,

00:32:59.420 when they promote the mutilation of children through transgender extremist surgeries, mass abortion with tax dollars,

00:33:08.500 racialism, segregation and separatism, race-based decision making and discrimination and embrace that.

00:33:18.500 I mean, when they try to blow up the Supreme Court.

00:33:21.940 You know, and stand aside as people threaten the lives of justices and intimidate them.

00:33:27.620 You know, this is a very, very dangerous period for the country.

00:33:31.640 And and and when they try to jail a former president and the leading candidate, you know, that's not America.

00:33:39.180 That's not America. And we're in a post-constitutional period.

00:33:43.340 And I don't think, you know, the positive of this, Blue, and I don't know what you think.

00:33:47.140 I think a little bit of leadership goes a long way and just a little bit more leadership from the right people in the right positions

00:33:54.660 can go a long way to getting this country back back righted.

00:33:59.140 Right. And get the republic shored up, get the rule of law implemented.

00:34:03.740 And, you know, you keep on fighting, you know, to constrain government and to protect our liberties.

00:34:09.220 But we've got to kind of we need a captain to to get us through this crisis and back to safer waters.

00:34:16.420 These are dangerous waters we're in. That's for sure.

00:34:18.740 And I think the question you're you're raising, Tom, tells us it tells us very well and very loudly what our real problems are.

00:34:31.760 We have a business class in this country, oligarchs among them, the most of the wealthiest people in this country would be called oligarchs if there were any other country.

00:34:45.440 So I call them oligarchs. They're American oligarchs.

00:34:48.140 But nonetheless, oligarchs, they are not stepping up.

00:34:51.640 Not one billionaire has stood up and said, you know, we should think about what the implications are of this political persecution of Donald Trump, a former president,

00:35:02.540 what the implications are for our society, for our culture, for for the good of our young people and the and their futures.

00:35:10.560 The rule of law, the Constitution and the likelihood that we can preserve a republic in the midst of such an affront against decency and law and our Constitution.

00:35:22.440 Not one billionaire has stood up and said this is wrong and the Democrats should step back.

00:35:29.180 Instead, they've been funding every candidate they can find one after the other to replace Donald Trump,

00:35:36.780 who is the presumptive nominee without question and the and certainly the the leader of the Republican Party.

00:35:43.340 They have no problem with 700 years of prison time facing him.

00:35:48.580 And and after eight years in which only wrongdoing of the Justice Department, the FBI, the intelligence agency,

00:35:58.600 none has been discovered about the man they've tried to impeach twice, drawn a special counsel,

00:36:04.420 and spent years of FBI investigating.

00:36:08.240 It's just extraordinary to me.

00:36:10.580 Well, you've accidentally explained why they do what they do.

00:36:14.780 Absolutely.

00:36:15.520 Does this you see what happens when one one billionaire raises his head, Donald Trump?

00:36:20.460 Why would it's a signal not only to the everyday Americans, but it's a signal to the billionaire class.

00:36:25.940 You raise your head, we'll lop it off.

00:36:27.760 I mean, you know, Musk, you know, tries to make Twitter more free, not exactly completely free in terms of free speech and such.

00:36:36.580 And, you know, the justice, all the agencies of the Biden administration start trying to destroy him.

00:36:43.120 And so, you know, no billionaire can stand against the government if the government wants to jail him or harass him.

00:36:50.720 And and I think that explains in large measure why the business class is, you know, there's an ideological silliness to a lot of what they do.

00:36:59.040 But a lot of it is there.

00:37:01.200 They see the government as someone that can destroy them at the drop of a hat.

00:37:04.900 And, you know, unlike politicians and those of us in the political class, they see it literally every day.

00:37:10.280 Right.

00:37:11.520 Because every business decision they make, certainly for the major companies in this country, both private and publicly owned,

00:37:17.220 they're dealing with, you know, a vicious bureaucracy, bureaucracy, as I said, that's ideological and partisan.

00:37:27.860 And on top of that, you know, the other issue that we have neglected is the border crisis.

00:37:33.460 Five million have crossed the border, at least illegally since Joe Biden's taken office and he's encouraging more.

00:37:41.240 And, you know, that's another great way and effective way to lose your country, which is to erase its borders.

00:37:48.020 You have no borders.

00:37:48.820 You have no country.

00:37:50.060 And the left has embraced that.

00:37:52.200 And I tell you, I don't know if we can sustain America as we know it much longer.

00:38:01.400 And, you know, have we lost it completely?

00:38:04.000 I don't think so.

00:38:05.020 But that's why I am I, you know, that's why Judicial Watch is so active.

00:38:10.680 And I know that's why you're so concerned as a patriot that we've got to really take strong action now,

00:38:16.140 use all the tools available to us in this under our glorious Constitution and our other rights to retrieve our republic and to shore it up.

00:38:27.020 Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch.

00:38:29.480 Tom, we appreciate you being with us today, and we always appreciate your knowledge, your insight and the incredibly critical, important role that Judicial Watch performs as a watchdog over those rights that you speak of and this republic we all we all love.

00:38:50.560 Thanks for being here, my friend.

00:38:52.140 Yeah, you're welcome.

00:38:52.840 Thank you, Luke.

00:38:53.800 Tom Fenton, great American.

00:38:55.960 Thanks for listening, everybody.

00:38:57.220 Our guest here tomorrow is House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, leading the House Investigating Committees.

00:39:04.280 His committee has just subpoenaed the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI officials in their investigation of Hunter Biden.

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00:39:21.240 Be with us tomorrow for The Great America Show.

00:39:23.460 Until then, thank you, God bless you, and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - August 24, 2023

OBAMA AND HIS MARXISTS ARE IN CONTROL

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