On this episode of The Great America Show, Lou Dobbs is joined by Lee Smith, a prominent author, a Great American Author, and a frequent contributor to publications such as The New York Times, The Weekly Standard, and The Huffington Post. They discuss the death of Speaker Mike Johnson, the $1.5 Trillion spending bill, and the ongoing Trump trial.
00:08:01.860Why does he want to legalize their nuclear weapons program?
00:08:04.920I think, Lou, at this point, after Russiagate, after when Barack Obama tasked his spy chiefs to go after his successor, Donald Trump,
00:08:18.500I think after the Biden administration turned counterterrorism tactics on the political opposition,
00:08:25.060after the Biden administration opened up our borders to felons, terrorists, spies,
00:08:31.740I think it's a lot easier to understand right now why Barack Obama would partner with a regime determined to attack the pillars of American peace and prosperity.
00:08:45.120So fundamentally, that's what we're seeing happening in the Middle East.
00:08:50.580But remember, it's the United States that has been since the Cold War, the guarantor of Middle East stability, both in the Persian Gulf and the eastern Mediterranean.
00:09:01.340So, again, while Israel is paying a price for Barack Obama's infatuation with the Islamic Republic, the primary target here, Iran's primary target, has always been the United States.
00:09:16.760And that's the case with the Obama faction of the Democratic Party.
00:09:21.460And I think that as you lay it out, it's it's clear as it could possibly be.
00:09:26.800One of the and it's always interesting to me to to recall 2008, 2009, as the is the two terms of Barack Obama began to think back to the amount of constraint in the part of the public, in the public, our politicians.
00:09:48.500And, of course, the national corporate media, they were afraid because this was the first black president.
00:09:54.400And I mean, they were very, very, very careful.
00:09:59.200They wouldn't they would walk up to talking about fundamental transformation, as he called for it, the fundamental transformation of the United States.
00:10:10.140They would not report it with a vigor that any other president certainly would have would have been the beneficiary of.
00:10:17.520It's it's interesting now with the passage of time, people have no problem saying Barack Obama is the the inception of all that we are witnessing under this what some outright call the third term of Barack Obama.
00:10:34.480And by the way, I think there is they're absolutely right as rain.
00:10:41.840And you and I say that, Lou, and our friends and many of our colleagues say that.
00:10:46.300And, of course, a large a large amount of our neighbors and fellow Americans, especially who vote Republican, will say that as well.
00:10:53.980But unfortunately, I found and maybe you found the same.
00:10:57.240But still, even on Capitol Hill today, people are afraid, Republicans are afraid to to challenge Barack Obama.
00:11:05.740And look, I think, you know, your introduction started by talking about the nominally Republican led Congress.
00:11:14.620I think that House members could have spent the last two years starting investigations, getting documents, trying to secure documents on what happened during the Obama administration.
00:11:26.300Right. If people believe that Obama is as is has used Joe Biden as an avatar, which I think is an accurate description, then one useful thing would have been to get different documentation from the Obama years, both on Russiagate.
00:11:41.200Let's remember this. These were Barack Obama's spy chiefs.
00:11:44.520That's something that's something, for instance, that House intelligence chair, Mike Turner, could have spent his time on doing.
00:11:52.600They also could have found all sorts of stuff on the documents on the Iran deal.
00:11:56.800The Obama administration hid documents that the Trump administration tried to uncover.
00:12:01.580Right. These weren't even classified documents.
00:12:03.660These were documents that were unclassified, that they mixed with classified documents to hide them.
00:12:09.320Right. So this could have been an effort to find out if this started with a Barack Obama.
00:12:14.740We should get to the bottom of it. What happened?
00:12:17.520What were the different things that Barack Obama put in place so that 10 years, 10 years after Obama or rather 15 years since he started his term?
00:12:29.440Why does America look the way it does right now?
00:12:52.540We're coming right back after these quick messages.
00:12:54.600We will be talking about the the importance of perspective in all of this and understanding the role of Barack Obama, his intelligence chiefs and what they did and what is still occurring under their influence and direction in this in this country.
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00:15:17.680We're talking with Lee Smith about two characters that I want to talk about just real briefly before we get to the really important stuff, as it were.
00:15:26.660Mike Gallagher, the head of the CCP committee, select committee.
00:15:32.260He turned out to be a two-bit lowlife with his own, I guess, ethics that are incomprehensible to, I think, anyone else, just about.
00:15:46.280And Mike Turner, who is nothing but a two-bit hack, servicing the military-industrial complex and those intel chiefs that apparently have something on him.
00:15:58.960Either that or they've got a threat that is working against him.
00:16:04.420I mean, these two are, to me, just absolute, I'll use the word, cretins.
00:16:11.940They are sold out in every way you could be, it seems to me.
00:16:16.180Well, let me start with Representative Turner, whom I met while I was reporting the book on Devin Nunes.
00:16:27.560And one of the things that happened, and this is what I really mean to do here, is highlight how important it was what Devin Nunes did.
00:16:36.160Because these committees, the intelligence committees, both in the Senate and in the House, right, I mean, they send the intelligence services, the CIA, the FBI, DNI, they send a whole bunch of people and basically they recruit House members, right?
00:16:53.260So a lot of people talk about how, and that wouldn't surprise me, I'm sure that this is right, that there are all sorts of portfolios on House members collected by everyone from FBI to DHS.
00:17:07.520I think the most significant fact, however, again, is that these committees are absolutely infiltrated by American spies.
00:17:16.720And so they're pushing it in the direction that they want it.
00:17:19.720And lots of these people who are in these committees and lots of the people who are running these committees don't want any friction at all, right?
00:17:26.700They don't want friction with the intelligence services.
00:17:29.280They don't want friction with the White House.
00:17:32.400And let's face it, until Devin, before Devin Nunes ran that committee, there was no one who was really concerned on the Hill, certainly no Republicans, who were concerned.
00:17:43.000Well, I guess we could say Rand Paul, but who were concerned with the sorts of things that the FBI was up to.
00:17:48.360So the idea that Chairman Johnson, or rather Chairman Turner, that he pushed for the reauthorization of FISA while disgusting, should not come as that much of a surprise.
00:18:04.900Unfortunately, a lot of people on the Hill, especially on those committees, are not looking out for the interest of Americans.
00:18:13.200They're not concerned about our civil liberties.
00:18:15.440And look, if we have people who were lukewarm supporters, if supporters at all, of Donald Trump, they don't care what happened to Trump.
00:18:23.640They don't care what happened to Trump aides.
00:18:25.680And they don't even care what's happened to Trump supporters.
00:18:34.140And they are scared to death of what he represents because the American people then, when he walks into the Oval Office, the will of the governed, the consent of the governed becomes important once again.
00:18:49.740And this is now suddenly where a constitutional republic, without his leadership, we don't want to contemplate what this country will be at that moment in history.
00:18:59.620It will be a tragedy of unimaginable proportions.
00:19:06.200And you said no one should be surprised.
00:19:08.940But I have to say to you, I don't think anybody is ever surprised by the venality, the viciousness, the self-dealing of the swap, either party.
00:19:24.660So I see this more as a moment in which it's not about surprise.
00:19:28.800It's not about the really expectations.
00:19:48.380We have fifth columns, I think, for the first time, certainly in my lifetime.
00:19:54.240We have fifth columns working that are robust.
00:19:58.940They are active, subverting the government of the United States, our political system.
00:20:04.220And people don't want to even whisper China, the PRC, CCP, Russia, Iran, Hamas, all of the terrorist groups from around the world.
00:20:18.140Everyone is sort of gathering at this wonderful sort of, I guess, beachhead, 2,000 miles across that Mexican border.
00:20:30.280But now it's the Mexican drug cartel border brought to you by Joe Biden.
00:20:34.340I mean, this is hardly a time for anyone to be surprised because we are we have thrown our gates wide open and said to every barbarian, come on in.
00:20:51.780Look, I mean, this this Lou, I think very often and I'm not just I'm not just flattering you, but I think very often about our conversations here.
00:21:00.660And one of the conversations that really that really struck me was you you got a little frustrated with me at one point when I was talking about our God given rights.
00:21:21.160But again, Americans will have to fight whether or not Donald Trump is elected president.
00:21:28.540And when we're talking about our our borders being open again, this puts Americans what they've done is they've brought us back to the frontier.
00:21:37.960Right. This was a country settled by very hard men and women.
00:21:42.120And so they they've brought us back to the frontier.
00:21:44.900And again, it will be up to Americans to to defend themselves, to defend their families, to defend their communities.
00:21:52.900It's a terrible thing that they've done.
00:22:17.540What shocks me about all of this is you figure even if these people didn't care, our elected officials didn't care about representing their constituents, whether these are congressional districts or whether these are the states represented by senators or whether it's the whether it's the president of the United States, even though they even if they didn't care about their constituents, you would think they would have a little personal honor.
00:22:41.160Right. So when the Biden administration says this decides to leave the border open and endanger American citizens, you would think that people on our side, people elected elected by Republicans would say, how dare you?
00:22:57.680How dare you? Right. On my watch, you're going to try to open up the border.
00:23:03.840I'm going to fight you tooth and nail.
00:23:06.200And look, I would have liked an impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas, but I think there could have been much harder measures put in place.
00:23:13.260I mean, not measures put in place, but much harder language coming from the Hill.
00:23:20.860I know that if we start issuing criminal referrals to Joe Biden's DOJ, nothing is going to be nothing is going to happen.
00:23:27.220But we're putting you on alert right now.
00:23:29.420You've betrayed this country and you're in big trouble next time we get a Republican attorney general, because you will be referred then and you will be paying a serious penalty for what you've done to it for what you've done.
00:23:41.160Again, take it personally for what you've done to me on my watch.
00:24:13.780And Greg Abbott knows he can't stop it, but he can, by golly, slow it down.
00:24:21.460And I give him all the credit in the world.
00:24:25.420And I wonder why this country is tolerating those other three governors and their pathetic attitude as this country is being invaded across their borders with Mexico.
00:25:38.080I want to turn to these issues that, you know, the CCP committee seemingly toyed with, but nothing really happened, as is often the case on the Hill.
00:25:51.400Well, your thoughts about how is it after what was it's five years since President Trump said he was getting rid of tick tock.
00:26:03.240And the discussion goes on, but they're still here doing their job, gathering data on everyone from children to whoever else wants to be involved and sending it back to the CCP.
00:26:19.600Well, and also, I mean, I think even more importantly, it's the as people have explained to me, I'm hardly an AI expert.
00:26:26.120As people have explained to me, the AI component shapes different.
00:26:30.500I guess the fancy word is narratives, shapes different narratives.
00:26:34.040And that really poisons the American public sphere.
00:26:36.860So when we talk about social media and when people talk about First Amendment, it's it's useful to see tick tock rather as a propaganda instrument of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:26:51.340It also so happens, however, that tick tock is a very important Democratic Party platform messaging platform.
00:26:58.740That's one of the reasons why the Biden administration has used so many tick tock influencers.
00:27:04.380So I think it's in that context that we need to understand this tick tock bill that's caused so much controversy.
00:27:12.020I think that the main purpose here is not to ban tick tock and not to give Biden control over big tech, because, as we know, the Democrats already control big tech.
00:27:27.000So the idea that they're going to get more control over big tech is kind of absurd.
00:27:30.960Now, I think the purpose of the tick tock bill is to be able to clear it, move it away from the CCP, get it in different hands so that political donors, the donor class that has invested in tick tock, tick tock's parent company, ByteDance.
00:27:51.220There are billions and billions of dollars invested in ByteDance.
00:27:57.140I think the reason for the tick tock bill is to be able to give Joe Biden the ability to get his donors paid.
00:29:28.920And not just a Democratic Party propaganda instrument, but also a platform for Democratic parties to transfer more wealth out of the United States to Beijing.
00:29:40.760Again, another reason to see that thing shut down.
00:29:43.520And also because it's a peddler of licentious video and an assault on not only the senses, but the character of our young people.
00:30:09.080Who was prominent in that legislation on TikTok?
00:30:12.540Well, I mean, Representative, Representative Gallagher was part of that and he was working on that with Biden's, I believe, Biden's Deputy Attorney General, Lisa Monica, who, of course, has been involved in so many destructive, destructive campaigns against against Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters and and and the country as a whole.
00:30:39.400Well, I agree with you about I agree with you about social media.
00:30:44.700Generally, I will say I last week there was a party at Mar-a-Lago for Truth Social, which is, you know, which is what was started by Donald Trump.