The Great America Show - OUTLAWS FILL THE DOJ AND FBI

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.240 And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.400 Welcome to the Great America show. Good to have you with us.

00:00:17.720 Politics, the order of the day, including, of course, Hunter Biden and the latest intrigues

00:00:23.360 among the Biden family and why it takes years for the FBI to investigate a simple misplaced

00:00:29.980 laptop, unless, of course, it happens to belong to someone with the last name Biden.

00:00:35.920 Also, we're taking up the collapse of the Clinton Foundation and the Department of Justice and

00:00:41.140 FBI targeting political opponents, as well, the unprecedented turnover in the staff of

00:00:46.800 Vice President Harris and the political implications, of course, for the most unpopular vice president

00:00:53.140 in a half century. A note, she's not getting any more popular with this high

00:00:59.920 turnover and the obvious rancor between the staffs of the president of the United States

00:01:05.220 and Kamala Harris. The politics of pathogens, as we watch President Biden jokingly refer to the

00:01:12.880 dreaded Dr. Fauci as the real president. It has some people wondering, is President Biden mistakenly

00:01:20.560 telling the truth, and the federal court system pushing back against the White House and its

00:01:25.320 authoritarian attempts to rule by fiat, mandating vaccines against what Dr. Fauci recently referred

00:01:32.560 to as the Wuhan strain of the China virus. I love it when truth accidentally happens, and that had to

00:01:40.880 be an accident, but it's also accurate. And as the Biden White House blocks travel from eight South

00:01:47.080 African countries because of the virus, they leave our southern border with Mexico absolutely wide 1.00

00:01:55.000 open. Why is that? Well, joining us today, the president of Judicial Watch, and the good folks

00:02:00.840 at Judicial Watch are busier than ever, whether it's dealing with the mayor of Chicago, Lori Lightfoot,

00:02:07.520 or runaway illegal immigration, and a host of other issues. We'll take it up with Judicial Watch

00:02:13.720 president, Tom Fenton. Tom, great to have you with us. Thanks for joining us. Good to be with you.

00:02:18.520 Thank you, Lou. Let's start with first the mayor of Chicago, Lori Lightfoot, and her, back in May,

00:02:28.060 she vowed that she would only do one-on-one interviews with journalists of color. Seems vaguely

00:02:34.740 discriminatory. What is Judicial Watch doing about all this? Well, we sued. We sued on behalf of the

00:02:42.540 Daily Caller News Foundation and a journalist, Thomas Catanacci, who I had requested and was

00:02:48.360 denied an interview under that, you know, by the office of the mayor. So we sued the mayor for a

00:02:55.980 civil rights violation. It's been going along for a little bit since then, and the mayor had to put

00:03:02.760 forward a representative to talk about the policy, and the representative didn't provide the information

00:03:08.940 the court required. So we're asking, quite rightly, to question the mayor under oath. It's her policy.

00:03:17.200 Her employee was, I think, her director of communications made it clear she's the decider here.

00:03:22.420 So it's appropriate that she testify. But, I mean, the kind of the yawn that the media has about

00:03:29.100 a public official, you know, a significant public official, the mayor of Chicago, famous politician,

00:03:35.320 specifically denying access to her office on the basis of race is, I guess it's, it's not surprising,

00:03:42.900 but it's really terrible. Well, it's outrageous in point of fact. And the idea that it's becoming,

00:03:50.260 I guess the word is acceptable, whether to the left-wing media or to Illinois state politicians,

00:03:59.120 even city of Chicago politicians, for a sitting mayor to actually discriminate either for or against

00:04:09.540 any race, it's stunning stuff. You know, for 50, 60 years now, we've had this anti-discrimination

00:04:17.740 legal regime that's developed to protect the rights of individuals, to promote the rights of

00:04:23.720 individuals, to make sure they're not discriminated on the basis of race or sex or things like that,

00:04:28.860 and the left has just abandoned that. They want to blow it all up. And it's pretty clear they

00:04:35.080 believe and pursue discrimination as a policy. And, you know, all of those, you know, all those sermons

00:04:45.580 we receive from the left about non-discrimination, that's all out the window now. Well, you're also

00:04:52.120 suing the state of California on gender discrimination on boards of directors, are you not?

00:05:01.180 Yeah, there's a taxpayer lawsuit. Taxpayers have a right in California to sue the government when it

00:05:06.700 engages in illegal activity, prevent tax dollars from being used to support that. And California had

00:05:12.300 a mandate that it passed requiring corporations of certain sizes to have their boards of directors

00:05:18.000 have a certain number of women on it. So there was a quota system in place that meant that certain 1.00

00:05:23.260 slots a man can't apply for. And so that case went on and on. And now we're in trial before a court there

00:05:31.380 in Los Angeles County, a superior court judge. It's going to go on for another week or two.

00:05:37.100 But you have the government coming in once again to defend the indefensible.

00:05:40.560 And they're suggesting, believe it or not, it's good business to discriminate. That's their

00:05:44.980 justification. You know, all of these jurisdictions have associations, county associations, city,

00:05:53.120 municipal, state governments have their own associations and organizations. And usually

00:05:58.780 in there somewhere are city attorneys and district attorneys and state attorneys general.

00:06:06.520 And surely there is some sort of judgment that is put together by these associations

00:06:12.900 in those highly placed law enforcement officers saying, wait a minute, governor, mayor, county

00:06:21.180 supervisor, whatever it may be, you can't do this. Don't they have a responsibility to speak

00:06:28.060 up and counsel their elected officials? Well, they did in this case in California.

00:06:35.660 California, you know, the legislative analysis included a significant risk of legal challenges.

00:06:43.660 Even the governor of California at the time, Governor Brown, wrote that there were serious

00:06:47.860 legal concerns that had been raised about the legislation. He didn't minimize the potential,

00:06:52.660 but he signed it anyway because he saw it as an anti-Trump bill. So they legalized discrimination

00:06:58.800 in violation of the California constitution or federal lawsuits against it too. But we're in court

00:07:04.280 now and hopefully can stop it almost immediately if the court rules the right way. Well, again,

00:07:09.900 all I have to say is, you know, good, good for you and good for the country that we have judicial

00:07:16.340 watch engaged on these issues, because in so many cases, nothing would be known, nothing would be done

00:07:25.160 about these egregious cases in which you're talking about discrimination, talking about improper use

00:07:36.300 of political power, abuse of government authority. So thanks again, Tom, for what Judicial Watch,

00:07:44.020 you and Judicial Watch are doing here. I want to turn to the FBI, the Department of Justice.

00:07:50.400 We've all learned that, you know, the FBI has become the place where truth goes to die.

00:07:59.960 Investigations go on and on. And I've talked about years, even when there are urgent issues,

00:08:06.160 urgent public issues, unless, of course, they're investigating conservatives, and then they can do

00:08:12.040 that in about a week and a half. In the FBI graveyard right now, there is the Wiener laptop,

00:08:19.960 the Hillary laptops, devices, phones, servers, and now the Hunter Biden laptop from hell is,

00:08:28.640 you know, is sitting there atop the headstones. They have all of this evidence, all of these names

00:08:36.260 and numbers. And there is nothing, nothing going on. Why is it we're not, there is no apparent impulse

00:08:46.220 on the part of anyone on Capitol Hill of either party, or certainly within the Biden administration,

00:08:52.100 to produce answers on all of these so-called investigations?

00:08:57.520 Well, it's really a failure of leadership. But, you know, you lay out a good list there. But Ashley

00:09:05.720 Babbage's diary resulted in a raid on the home of James O'Keefe of Project Veritas. So they got their

00:09:13.180 priorities, Lou. But, you know, I was thinking about this recently. I mean, we, you know, we've

00:09:21.760 observed the congressional leadership of the Republican Party having zero interest in corruption

00:09:26.820 issues, at least pursuing them adequately. But even our friends have kind of gone off the reservation

00:09:32.100 or have gotten quiescent on this. And in my view, you have Hunter Biden, even though the FBI has

00:09:39.240 covered it up, DOJ has covered it up for years, in theory is still subject to being, is still being

00:09:45.020 investigated. And under the rules of the Justice Department that we were beaten about with head

00:09:51.180 and shoulders during the Trump administration, oh, we need a special counsel. Whenever there's

00:09:56.680 the appearance of a conflict of interest, where is the special counsel for the Hunter Biden,

00:10:02.100 Biden corruption issues? And, you know, this issue has disappeared from the radar in Washington,

00:10:09.240 D.C. And in my view, the fact that it has is an indictment of both political parties. And it just

00:10:15.880 adds to the frustration the American people have with this decrepit city.

00:10:20.500 It is a horribly decrepit city. It is a swamp. And I think that's probably being kind to it and the

00:10:31.300 denizens of that swamp in both parties. It raises the question again, because one thinks of the

00:10:38.260 Republican Party as the loyal opposition, that it has a uniform view, shared principles. But it turns out

00:10:47.060 this Republican Party is run by RINOs and the establishment, and those are quite different people

00:10:54.340 than the people elected to office to represent them. This is a difficult, difficult problem,

00:11:03.520 because if it were not, for example, for Joe Manchin, standing up against the Biden preposterous

00:11:11.540 build back, build back better spending program, it'll add trillions to the national debt, that would 0.59

00:11:17.360 have gone through. He had to stand up because the Republicans wouldn't. And the Republicans in the

00:11:24.880 House, 13 of them, RINOs all, push through the Biden program. And no one wants to talk about it because

00:11:32.680 the Republicans want to take power in 2022, if we can last that long.

00:11:37.940 And ridiculously, the idea that RINOs are the same as all other Republicans, that is a piece of

00:11:48.940 disinformation that we've got to puncture and expose, don't you think?

00:11:54.300 Yeah. And I think the challenge for Republicans in 2022, if I could play a political analyst,

00:11:59.720 is what are conservatives going to do with a House leadership that comes in, let's say,

00:12:07.060 Mr. McCarthy becomes the Speaker.

00:12:10.420 Right.

00:12:11.400 Or is, how is he going to be any different than what's going on now, in terms of being aggressive

00:12:19.020 and supporting, you know, the grassroots concerns about either elections and corruption and COVID and

00:12:26.760 all the other issues that have been out there? I just don't see him doing much different than Paul

00:12:32.180 Ryan. He may be more responsive to conservative concerns on the Hill. But I think it's going to

00:12:39.100 be the same old, same old. So conservatives have a challenge to consider. And I, you know,

00:12:43.760 and I've talked to a lot of conservatives who are very concerned about McCarthy's leadership or

00:12:48.320 lack thereof, especially on that 13 vote issue where it looked too many that the House leadership,

00:12:55.720 the Republican House leadership, let those votes happen. And rather than whipping to protect the

00:13:02.120 taxpayers from the extortive spending that the Democrats have pushed through.

00:13:09.160 And going back to what this division within the Republican Party itself has done,

00:13:16.360 the Justice Department has free reign to threaten families and private citizens in a school board meeting

00:13:24.080 with being charged with being a domestic terrorist because they criticize critical race theory or any

00:13:30.700 number of left-wing initiatives in our school boards. It's outrageous. And the FBI, the Justice

00:13:40.600 Department, whether we go to January 6th, the, you know, the select committee, they have all the

00:13:48.480 evidence, names, video, arrests of those involved. And, and yet this proceeds without really comment from

00:13:58.320 the leadership of the Republican Party or the leadership in the form of Mitch McConnell or Kevin

00:14:06.080 McCarthy. Your thoughts?

00:14:09.000 Well, I think on the House side, at least the Republicans are extremely fearful of the January 6th

00:14:14.860 Commission. And that's why they're quiet about it because they fear like they might be subpoenaed by

00:14:20.980 them. I mean, the Democrats and Pelosi have decided to abuse their powers and, and the rules of law

00:14:28.200 and the House don't apply. The traditions of the House for good or for bad don't apply in terms of

00:14:34.620 using the, using a committee to harass fellow members. It's never really been done in recent

00:14:40.900 history of the best I could tell. And they're deathly afraid of it. They're more concerned

00:14:45.360 about Nancy Pelosi, believe you me, on the Hill, uh, in terms of threats to their personal freedom

00:14:51.140 and livelihood than anything the FBI and DOJ is doing. That's why there's not much, there's not

00:14:57.640 much noise about it. I want to turn to the Southern border. We are watching the Biden administration

00:15:06.700 and public health officials within it. Uh, the World Health Organization, Mayor de Blasio,

00:15:13.840 no surprise there. And the new governor of New York, and of course, Michigan, all, you know,

00:15:21.060 hair of fire screaming about the, uh, the Omicron variant of the Wuhan virus, as Dr. Fauci now calls it.

00:15:31.500 Why in the world are we not seeing a responsible, responsible response to this variant? And it looks

00:15:41.220 like, again, another effort on the part of the left to try to be as authoritarian as possible to

00:15:47.820 diminish again, our civil rights and our public freedoms. Well, you know, uh, the Biden administration,

00:15:55.160 I think has an interest in, uh, suppressing, uh, because they are so radical. They see this as a

00:16:02.200 vehicle for suppressing, uh, the American people and oppressing them. It seems to me almost vindictive,

00:16:10.840 the vaccine mandates, because they're, they're so nonsensical. When you look at the court decisions

00:16:15.100 that have decimated them, you know, as you point out, you have to wonder what, you know,

00:16:19.680 what lawyers advise them to even put this stuff out there. Now we see Mayor de Blasio, uh, extending

00:16:26.640 his already abusive mandate to the private sector and telling children that it'd be vaccinated before

00:16:32.280 they go into restaurants. There's a, there's this kind of this, uh, you know, this, um, anti-Americanism

00:16:39.080 involved in some of this, uh, vaccine, uh, and COVID restrictive policies that are being put forward by

00:16:46.960 the federal government and some local governments, all of whom are controlled by the extremist left.

00:16:52.120 I don't know how else to describe what, you know, what, who, well, who other than a cynical leftist

00:16:59.500 would want an open board with virtually no public health checks in place while demanding that citizens

00:17:05.360 have to get a vaccine in order to get food and work for a living. Yeah, it is, it's difficult to

00:17:14.420 explain. And it seems to be all about control of a population, whether it be de Blasio in New York

00:17:20.920 City, uh, caring less, whether or not he shut down the whole city again, as he goes, you know,

00:17:26.760 he's, he heads toward the end of his, his reign as the socialist mayor of, uh, the number one city in

00:17:35.080 the country. Uh, it, it's tough stuff for a lot of people to get their arms around. And by the way,

00:17:41.560 I would include myself amongst those who have a bit of a struggle because you have an open border

00:17:48.060 as a, uh, as the left tries to shut down, it seems the whole country, what sense could it possibly

00:17:54.800 make? And why aren't we seeing more immigration and, uh, and security controls at our air, our ports

00:18:01.820 of entry, whether airports or, uh, the Southern border in particular, it is just, it's stunning that

00:18:09.280 we're talking about this all these years later, Tom, we've discussed this for, I guess, decades

00:18:14.820 now. Uh, and here we are in probably even uneven work shape, uh, your thoughts.

00:18:22.820 Well, the restrictions at the border are geared towards, uh, permanent residents who are here 1.00

00:18:27.460 legally in the U S Edison and other people traveling here legally. Uh, I mean, if you're,

00:18:33.360 if you're a movement that's on, that's pushing for open borders that wants to undermine a rule of law,

00:18:38.520 you set up policies that you have, or we'll have restrictions from Africa, we'll have an open

00:18:44.020 border that would allow citizens from those countries to walk through virtually unmolested. 0.87

00:18:49.520 And we're, and we're seeing the border patrol arresting thousands of illegal immigrants from

00:18:54.420 Africa, from the middle East, uh, from the hot zone, uh, that is in the South African nations that

00:19:02.020 travel has been banned from there. But meanwhile, those bands hardly affect illegal immigrants.

00:19:07.180 Uh, I want, I want to turn to, to, uh, the judicial watch, uh, and these new secret service documents

00:19:16.400 that reveal, uh, everyone get ready. There's going to be a surprise here. Bill Clinton took a trip with

00:19:23.560 Ghislaine Maxwell to India. I mean, I thought just to Lolita Island or the, it was a Lolita express to the

00:19:31.520 Epstein, uh, Island, wasn't it? Uh, what does that pretend? Yeah, there were secret service records

00:19:38.420 we got that confirmed the trip took place. Someone else had reported that there was a trip, but you

00:19:43.020 know, it's one thing to have a podcast report. It's the one thing to get secret service records

00:19:46.740 confirmed that it happened. You know, and the question is, what was he doing there in India with,

00:19:51.240 with Maxwell? Uh, you know, the other question is raised is what's the secret service questioned

00:19:56.600 about Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein because they were close. I mean, one of the dirty little

00:20:03.220 secrets that the media won't talk much about is how Maxwell and both Epstein and Maxwell were very

00:20:09.940 close to the Clintons, not only personally, but helped them fundraise and develop their Clinton

00:20:14.760 foundation and associated initiatives. Right. So, you know, many ways it's no surprise they traveled

00:20:20.240 the India together, but it just raises additional questions about Bill Clinton and whether or not

00:20:26.920 he's been investigated appropriately given Epstein's, uh, alleged activities. So, you know, and I say

00:20:33.540 alleged because the justice department, uh, let the guy die on their watch and, you know, how he died to

00:20:39.920 me is still an open question. The government concluded he committed suicide, but others have other

00:20:45.960 questions. Yeah. As you point out, there was a close relationship, uh, Glenn going to Chelsea's

00:20:52.380 wedding. Uh, we know that, uh, uh, Epstein, uh, was in the white house, uh, more than two, more than a

00:21:00.340 dozen, uh, instances. Uh, but it's very strange that the country was just demanding more knowledge about

00:21:09.400 Epstein and the, uh, the sordid, uh, charges surrounding him and Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:21:14.920 And once they're in trial in New York, we're seeing very little coverage from the corporatist

00:21:22.980 media. I wonder why any thoughts? Well, because she's a, you know, my view, she's a democratic 1.00

00:21:29.780 player, you know, that's, you know, they're not as interested in these issues as much of, as much

00:21:35.880 as other issues because, uh, he, he, uh, or she implicates the Clintons and others that normally are

00:21:42.900 protected by the media. And, you know, even, even if it's not protection, it's, there's nothing there

00:21:49.640 to advance. There's no agenda that benefits from pursuing this, uh, in terms of the media, you know,

00:21:56.120 their agenda is, is, is not helped by this trial. So they ignore it because they got other things to

00:22:02.280 focus on. Well, they've always, it seems, find something else to focus on, uh, at about the time

00:22:08.780 the facts, uh, uh, are at hand or about to be revealed, uh, Hunter Biden, uh, that, that process

00:22:16.440 goes on. Uh, I know you've taken a look at it. Uh, we're also seeing, uh, a number of people in the

00:22:23.600 corporatist media who obviously were closer to Hunter Biden than the public knew or, uh, anyone

00:22:30.580 realized, uh, as the events were unfolding around election time, uh, this is, this is, this is really,

00:22:38.880 frankly, uh, uh, uh, disappointing stuff, uh, because, you know, as, as Donald Trump Jr. has

00:22:48.560 pointed out a number of times, if the role had been reversed and had been him, uh, with his laptop

00:22:54.980 showing those, uh, what we know to be the contents of that, uh, laptop, I, I mean, there would have

00:23:01.860 been three special councils and four immediate, uh, investigations, don't you think?

00:23:09.260 Yeah. And there should be, uh, the fact there isn't one, as I said earlier, is an indictment of

00:23:14.080 the city. Uh, you know, and we're kind of seeing this play out on the international stage with the,

00:23:22.020 you know, the looming potential invasion of Russia, uh, into Ukraine and, you know, judicial watch

00:23:30.900 obtained documents. I think I've probably discussed with this before the discuss this with you before

00:23:36.560 that the Obama administration was very much aware of Biden's compromised position with Ukraine

00:23:42.820 because the Russians they noted were trolling him. He was going out to Ukraine talking about

00:23:48.840 corruption. The Russians are saying, what about Burisma? And, uh, the Obama official, one of whom

00:23:54.640 testified against Trump during impeachment called Burisma the gift that keeps on giving.

00:24:00.280 Right. So, I mean, this president's compromised vis-a-vis the Russians. They have his number.

00:24:05.600 They know his family is, can be bought and they, uh, the evidence suggests that he had been bought by

00:24:12.520 Russian and other interests. So why would they, why would they play nice?

00:24:18.160 Yeah. Well, they're certainly not playing nice yet. Hunter Biden, despite all of the questions,

00:24:22.860 all of the evidence on that laptop and elsewhere, uh, is permitted to, to paint, uh, well,

00:24:30.820 questionable art and sell it for questionable, huge sums of money. And sometimes to the Chinese 0.98

00:24:39.380 and, uh, and, and it just goes on, it is condoned by the acquiescence of the Republican party,

00:24:46.120 uh, certainly the democratic party, uh, and there are no question about ethics, let alone questions

00:24:53.240 about law. Uh, is this just simply going to be, uh, the hallmark of this era, uh, a corrupt period in

00:25:02.520 American history like no other? Yeah. And it really hasn't ended in the sense that, you know,

00:25:09.380 we saw this metastasize under president Trump and it's almost accelerated during the Biden

00:25:13.960 administration. I kind of, uh, the mirror of that is to protect the corrupt class from being

00:25:19.860 investigated, especially now that it's controlling the white house. Uh, and you know, this anti-Trump

00:25:26.580 fanaticism continues. Do you see the Biden administration's regulatory agencies are now

00:25:31.700 targeting Trump's, uh, deal to set up an alternative, uh, social media platform, right? The SEC stepping

00:25:38.920 right in a week later, you know, it's parlor part two, you name it, you know, they, you, Trump was

00:25:47.240 banned and he can't even set up his new, his new platform without the deep state going after him.

00:25:52.040 It's just, it's never going to stop Lou. And, uh, we need better leadership to confront it. We're doing

00:25:57.360 our part, but it'd be, it'd be nice to have some help from those who know better. Yeah. And amongst

00:26:04.120 those who know better, uh, I want to reiterate in my judgment, those let's name names. It's Mitch

00:26:11.660 McConnell. Uh, it is, uh, Ronald McDaniel of the RNC who lost a very important election. It remains a chair

00:26:19.220 of the RNC, despite its many failings in that election. Uh, and, uh, Kevin McCarthy in the house.

00:26:27.800 It is as if there is a veil of silence that is acceptable around the leadership. Uh, frankly,

00:26:35.080 whether it's Pelosi or whether it's McCarthy, uh, whether it's Chuck Schumer or whether it's

00:26:39.780 Mitch McConnell, uh, it's a club and not in the club, of course, or 300 billion Americans,

00:26:45.920 whether the Democrats among them think so or not, uh, they're not in a lot of better shape

00:26:51.120 than the Republicans and independents when it comes to representation, the nation's capital.

00:26:56.640 Uh, I want to do this. Uh, we, it's our custom to give our guests the last word, and I want to

00:27:03.520 turn it over to you, Tom, take it away. Well, you know, there are ways to kind of make,

00:27:09.280 to kind of do the work that Congress isn't doing, which is why judicial watch has been successful,

00:27:13.440 as you know, Lou, because we kind of, you know, we do what the basic oversight that Congress and

00:27:18.560 the media don't want to do. And, and, um, and there are more groups doing it and more individuals

00:27:23.120 doing it, which is good. You see this at the local level with CRT and parents asking school

00:27:28.720 boards, uh, through FOIA, give us the records about what you're up to. And that's, you know,

00:27:33.280 what judicial watch had done. So there are ways out of this mess. And I encourage folks to support us

00:27:38.320 at judicial watch.org and, uh, either to support us directly with financial support or get the word

00:27:46.160 out about what we're doing, because as Lou and I are discussing, the big media isn't going to talk

00:27:50.800 about much of this. They certainly are not. And I want to underline what Tom has just said.

00:27:57.040 Uh, you know, a donation to, uh, judicial watch is very helpful. Uh, whatever support you can give,

00:28:05.680 uh, is very helpful. And as always, Tom, thanks for your time. And thanks for all that you and

00:28:13.200 judicial watch do for the country. We're deeply appreciative. And I look forward to seeing you

00:28:18.640 here again soon. Thanks so much. Thanks. Tom Fenton, a great American and judicial watch,

00:28:24.960 as he said, a very important and energetic, uh, institution providing oversight that too often

00:28:33.520 our constitutional entities, uh, failed to provide far too often. Uh, Tom Fenton, a judicial watch.

00:28:42.560 Thanks. And we will continue with the great America show in just one moment. Please stay with us.

00:28:49.360 We'll be right back. There is so much going on each day in this country. Sometimes it seems impossible

00:28:57.360 to keep up with events, the cross currents, the ensemble of colorful and inscrupulous characters

00:29:03.760 in our body politic, and particularly located in Washington, DC, who stir a constant stir of, uh,

00:29:13.360 uh, sordid brew of corruption and constant, uh, disinformation and deceit. It's clearly a fact

00:29:20.480 certain that this is without question. One of those periods in American history that will be studied by

00:29:26.880 historians and economists for decades. And there's no doubt that just as the presidency of Joe Biden

00:29:33.920 has sped up our nation's descent into further divide and decline, Mr. Biden and his family will

00:29:40.400 be featured prominently in those studies to come years distant, but we don't have to wait for those

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00:29:54.400 book has just been published, a captivating, compelling look inside the Biden family that

00:30:00.720 you will find both, well, spell binding and stem winding, as they used to say. The book is entitled

00:30:07.040 The Laptop from Hell. And the author is one of the country's very best political columnists and one of

00:30:13.440 my very favorites, the New York Post's Miranda Devine. Miranda, congratulations on the book. Welcome to

00:30:20.720 The Great America Show. And we want to recommend your book to everyone in our audience. A fantastic

00:30:26.480 read, uh, amazing accounts of the Biden family. Uh, thank you for your investigation and beautifully

00:30:33.200 written account of the sorted and revealing contents of Hunter Biden's laptop. Uh, your thoughts about

00:30:41.840 first the reception to your book, which has been a sellout. It's obviously a blockbuster and bestseller.

00:30:49.200 Thanks so much, Lou. Um, yes, look, I'm, I'm pleased that it's done so well. And I think

00:30:55.760 it shows that there's a real hunger out there for, um, I guess, the truth of, of, about Joe Biden and

00:31:02.320 his family and, um, this influence peddling operation that they've been running, um, since

00:31:08.240 his early days as a Senator of Delaware and which he internationalized when he became vice president.

00:31:14.240 And, um, you know, we at the New York Post, uh, published, uh, a series of stories, uh, like last

00:31:20.720 year, just three weeks before the election, uh, based on our investigation at that point of the

00:31:26.880 laptop. We just published what we could verify in emails, um, which showed that at the very least,

00:31:32.720 Joe Biden had lied to the American people during the campaign when he said that, um, he had nothing to

00:31:39.920 do with Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings that he knew nothing about them. Uh, and, you know,

00:31:45.280 there's ample evidence, uh, in the laptop and also, uh, in a couple of other sources of information

00:31:51.840 that I've tapped into as part of that jigsaw puzzle, um, which indicate that Joe Biden met lots of

00:31:58.240 Hunter Biden's overseas business partners. He met them in Beijing. He met them, uh, in his own, uh,

00:32:05.920 residence in Washington DC and at the Naval Observatory. Uh, he met them from Mexicans and 1.00

00:32:12.000 Kazakhstanis and Ukrainians and Russians and Chinese. Uh, he met them at a dinner in Cafe Milano in 2015.

00:32:19.360 And I think, you know, a lot of these politicians get caught up, um, because of the coverup as much

00:32:25.360 as anything else. And really, uh, Joe Biden's campaign and Joe Biden himself, um, did not, uh,

00:32:32.160 tell the truth to the American people about his involvement in, um, this influence peddling scheme

00:32:37.520 that his son and his brother were running. And, uh, I think that as much as anything is going to be a

00:32:43.280 problem for him going forward. And one of the problems, uh, for him, uh, was certainly the,

00:32:49.840 the discovery that the laptop was indeed Hunter Biden's, uh, the reporting of the New York Post

00:32:57.200 was spectacular. Uh, it was exemplary. It, uh, uh, in terms of the kind of journalism, we expect all

00:33:05.360 of the national media, uh, to present to the body politic, the public, uh, and to serve their right to,

00:33:13.120 to know. But what happened was, uh, is, uh, I'm sure most of our audience recalls vividly,

00:33:20.080 the New York Post got shot down and shut down on social media, uh, as for simply telling the truth

00:33:29.040 and reporting the truth. Uh, and at the same time, big tech, uh, made it very clear, uh, who's in charge

00:33:37.200 of the flow of information in this country, uh, when it can, when it can go after the

00:33:43.040 New York Post and to the New York Post, uh, great credit. Uh, you guys stood strong, uh, with behind

00:33:50.080 your reporting and your reporters. Uh, it was a wonderful moment for journalism, but a terrible

00:33:55.200 moment for the country. Yeah. Thanks, Lou. And look, there were a lot of unsung heroes, I guess.

00:34:00.160 I mean, the New York Post, uh, my editor in particular, Cole Allen, who brought me over here, um, from

00:34:05.680 Australia, um, you know, real tough guy. And he, uh, was determined that this was a story that had to

00:34:11.360 be told. And then of course, Emma Jo Morris, brilliant reporter, um, who wrote the stories,

00:34:16.480 broke the stories, um, did an amazing job and did her due diligence. Um, and then of course,

00:34:22.080 Tony Bobulinski, um, another unsung hero and a real patriot, a Navy veteran. Um, he came forward before the

00:34:29.840 election and, um, you know, when, when the, the post and the laptop were being introduced as Russian

00:34:37.200 disinformation by, uh, the likes of former CIA and director John Brennan and James Clapper and Leon

00:34:43.360 Panetta and Michael Hayden, who wrote that scurrilous, uh, propaganda letter, uh, to Politico saying that

00:34:50.240 the laptop was, and therefore our reporting was Russian disinformation in their expert opinion,

00:34:55.760 having not looked at the laptop at all. Um, and, uh, when all that was going on and Tony Bobulinski

00:35:02.480 stood up firm and he said, no, uh, this is all correct. Um, he gave us a tranche of his emails,

00:35:09.520 uh, the contents of his phones, um, all his documents, and they cross matched with the laptop,

00:35:16.000 with those emails, a lot of overlap there, but also some fresh information. Um, and you needed that to,

00:35:21.760 to fill out the puzzle. And then a third piece of the puzzle, again,

00:35:25.200 a couple of other unsung heroes were, um, uh, Republican senators, Chuck Grasley and Ron Johnson,

00:35:31.840 who also were introduced by the Democrats as, uh, peddling Russian disinformation. But what they

00:35:37.120 did was a really forensic investigation into, uh, Hunter Biden, Burisma, the Ukrainian corrupt energy

00:35:44.320 company, uh, and corruption. And they, uh, got their hands on a whole lot of treasury, um, reports,

00:35:50.640 these suspicious activity reports that banks are supposed to file with the treasury department,

00:35:55.920 uh, when, um, you know, suspect money comes into the country, for instance, from a Russian

00:36:01.040 oligarch or some sanctioned individual. And there was a lot of that kind of money coming in, uh, to

00:36:06.320 the, uh, to the bank accounts of, um, certainly people associated with Hunter Biden, his business

00:36:11.760 partners, Roswan Seneca, and so on. So they brought the receipts there, which again,

00:36:16.320 cross-matched with material on the laptop and in the Tony Bobulinski material. And you need those

00:36:21.520 three pieces really to, um, fill out that jigsaw puzzle. And then, lo and behold, you see this

00:36:28.240 really shocking, um, template of, um, influence peddling corruption, call it what you will, tens of

00:36:35.360 millions of dollars, uh, flowing in, particularly from the Chinese, but from Russia and Ukraine and

00:36:40.560 Romania and Kazakhstan, um, you know, the Serbia, I mean, there were, there were really hardly any

00:36:47.280 place, uh, on planet earth that Joe Biden, uh, didn't have carriage for when he was vice president

00:36:52.640 that, uh, didn't get a visit from, um, the sort of Biden family grifters. You know, as you, as you

00:37:00.320 describe what is fact, uh, and the web of corruption, uh, at the center of which is the president of the

00:37:08.480 United States and has been for a very, a very long time approaching a half century, uh, we have as

00:37:17.120 your book. So, so well reports evidence fact to deal with and an FBI that has not, has not moved,

00:37:27.440 has refused to, to talk about the investigation, to deliver on what has been now, what a two year

00:37:34.720 investigation at least. And we have a, a national media that refused to report these facts that were

00:37:42.880 available by the way, not just to you, uh, but to a, a number of, uh, reporters who simply step back

00:37:50.960 and let that story go away, or were told to do so by their bosses in corporate, uh, media, uh, your

00:38:00.720 thoughts about why suddenly Bobby, as you talked about, uh, in the book, Tony Wawalinski is a hero.

00:38:07.840 He's burst upon the scene. Uh, and he then like, uh, he simply like a supernova, uh, he burst on the

00:38:16.240 scene and then there was just darkness, silence, and no more reporting. And then there was an election.

00:38:23.440 Uh, and I think in large, uh, measure, that's the reason that Joe Biden prevailed, uh, in that

00:38:32.240 election. Your thoughts? Yes. Well, it certainly was one of them, uh, you know, the, the, uh, big tech,

00:38:38.000 um, those, uh, unaccountable, uh, oligopoly of, uh, social media, Facebook and Twitter definitely put

00:38:44.960 their thumb on the scale. I mean, you can only call it Russian in, um, election interference. Uh, they 0.51

00:38:50.880 immediately within a couple of hours of our story going live, they blocked it, they censored it,

00:38:56.880 uh, Twitter even locked the New York Post's account, um, for the next two weeks until just a few days

00:39:02.320 before the election. Uh, and, you know, the New York Post is the fourth largest audience in the

00:39:07.040 country. Um, it's the oldest continuously published newspaper in the country, um, founded by Alexander

00:39:13.200 Hamilton. Uh, this was a big deal, what they did. And, uh, when they did that, it really gave the

00:39:20.720 signal to the rest of the media, the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, who, uh, you know,

00:39:26.880 the anti-Trump media who were all in the tank for Joe Biden before the election really gave them

00:39:32.400 the fig leaf that they needed not to cover the story. And then, um, a couple of days later, the,

00:39:38.160 uh, you know, John Brennan letter came up and that was all the excuse they needed. And, you know,

00:39:43.440 there are still to this day Americans who believe that the laptop was made up, it's fake,

00:39:48.080 it's Russian disinformation. Um, and, you know, it's not, it's been verified, um, you know,

00:39:53.360 every way to Sunday, uh, if the emails have been verified with other recipients of the emails,

00:39:58.960 um, as I said, the overlap with, um, the Grasley Johnson report with the Bob Linsky material

00:40:05.120 with Bevan Cooney and other, uh, now a Jay at one of Hunter Biden's many jailed

00:40:09.520 former business partners also delivered some of his material to Peter Schweitzer and

00:40:14.560 Matthew Tymon, other journalists who shared it with me. So, um, and, and Hunter Biden

00:40:20.080 himself, I mean, this has been out for now more than a year and the Bidens have just tried to

00:40:24.560 ignore it. And Hunter Biden wrote, um, his memoir, which was all about his crack addiction, which he

00:40:30.640 has now kicked, he says. Um, and I think that was in a way to neutralize, um, the stuff that was

00:40:38.560 coming out of the laptop about, you know, all the porn and the addiction and so on. Um, but, uh,

00:40:44.240 you know, even, even in that sense, he, he misled people about a lot of parts of his life,

00:40:49.040 including the fact that, you know, he got this stripper pregnant, there was, um, a, um,

00:40:53.840 paternity suit. Uh, she had to sue him to get DNA tests to prove that he was the father,

00:40:59.440 which he was. He, he said in his memoir, he didn't even know her. He dedicates the book to his

00:41:04.240 other children, doesn't mention this child who's now about two and a half. And, um, and, you know,

00:41:08.720 he had this, I mean, he has a child, um, and it's somewhere in Arkansas and this poor woman, um, had 1.00

00:41:15.440 to, had to, uh, sue for, for recognition, but he says in his book that he can't even remember the

00:41:21.440 encounter, but the laptop shows that they had a relationship going over several months and he used

00:41:25.920 to smuggle her into his office building at night. And, uh, you know, he, and there's just evidence

00:41:31.920 galore and they'd been text messaging and so on. So, um, you know, he wasn't straight obviously in

00:41:37.840 that, uh, memoir and it's, it's just a pattern with the Bidens. Um, I don't think there's really

00:41:43.120 nothing that you can believe that comes out of Joe Biden's mouth. I mean, he spent his entire life.

00:41:49.040 I think he's really lost the ability to tell truth from fiction. He tells tall tales. He's a fabulous,

00:41:54.960 he plagiarizes, um, uh, you know, a lot of mythologies in, in, in his family history.

00:42:01.120 I've, I've gone into a little bit of that in the book. Um, but it really, um, I think in the end,

00:42:06.880 uh, I'm hoping that people understand from seeing this, it's all factual. Um, it's all laid out there.

00:42:13.600 I've tried not to inject, um, you know, opinion into it. I've just tried to do a straight report. It's

00:42:19.200 shocking enough as it is, you don't need to embellish it. Uh, and, and I just think that

00:42:24.640 from the book, you can see the true character of Joe Biden, and you can also compare the reality of

00:42:31.280 what has been said in the documents and the receipts, um, that I've produced from the laptop

00:42:36.480 and these other sources, uh, with his public statements. And, um, I think that's where he'll

00:42:41.600 get tripped up. And Miranda, I've got to, I've got to compliment you further specifically for the

00:42:48.400 audience, uh, to understand that what Miranda has done in this book, uh, is take some of the

00:42:54.320 most, uh, complex, uh, sets of facts and defense, uh, and currents, uh, in our body politic

00:43:03.280 and, and report them to you, uh, to all of us, uh, reading the book in a comprehensible fashion.

00:43:10.240 As a journalist, I was taught early on, uh, you know, it's, it's one thing to be comprehensive,

00:43:15.600 which you have been, it is quite another to be comprehensive and comprehensible, uh,

00:43:20.720 in which you have, uh, brought together, uh, beautifully. And it is a, uh, a work of art,

00:43:27.280 uh, journalistically. I, I just can't, uh, uh, compliment you enough on that, uh, as one who

00:43:33.920 has also been covering that story. Uh, you know, I, I wish I had you as my daily guide, uh, in real time

00:43:41.280 during that period, uh, the corruption of the Biden family is clearly established, uh, and it's wide,

00:43:49.440 it's, it's broad, it's deep, and it, uh, centers around one man. And that is the man who is

00:43:55.120 president of the United States now. And the money that flowed to Hunter Biden, the largest, uh,

00:44:01.840 sums of money that, uh, traveled to his pockets, uh, were from the communist Chinese, the same people 0.88

00:44:09.040 that president Biden calls our competitors, uh, holds a two and a half meeting with the president of

00:44:15.440 uh, China and president Xi, uh, and won't tell reporters what they discussed, won't hold a press

00:44:21.600 conference to take up the substance of it. Uh, this is a level of both, uh, uh, of opaqueness and, uh,

00:44:31.200 uh, a, a character that is, uh, highly suspicious on, at least I'm suspicious of his character,

00:44:38.560 uh, and especially given the corruption, uh, that has, uh, followed him for his entire career.

00:44:45.360 Uh, how are we to trust a man on China who has had this level of involvement, uh, corrupt involvement

00:44:53.120 with the Chinese and his own family? Well, you can't, uh, you know, and he was involved in that.

00:44:59.840 Um, and, uh, you know, in his, you talk about his meetings, he's had four meetings,

00:45:04.480 virtual meetings with president Xi since he's been president and hasn't mentioned Wuhan.

00:45:08.960 And in the last, that, that marathon meeting that they had most recently, um, within hours,

00:45:14.480 China was buzzing Taiwan with their war plans, which shows you the level of disrespect shown

00:45:20.240 by president Xi to, to Joe Biden. Um, and I also think president Xi was trolling Joe Biden

00:45:26.480 by calling him my old friend because Joe Biden, he used to boast about what great friends there are.

00:45:32.800 I have passages in the book where he just as ranted and raved to people boasting about the hours and

00:45:38.960 hours that he spent with president Xi more than anybody else in the world and, uh, how important

00:45:44.560 that makes him and what great friends they are. And then most recently now that, um, you know,

00:45:49.840 being good friends with president Xi is not so popular with the American people after the pandemic and,

00:45:54.720 and, uh, you know, the evidence of their predatory behavior. Um, he's now saying, oh,

00:45:59.760 I'm not, I'm not a friend of Xi's. So, um, uh, you know, president Xi has his number. Uh,

00:46:05.280 he has spent hours with Joe Biden and over the years, and he knows his character and he knew that

00:46:11.280 when Joe Biden arrived on air force two in 2013 with Hunter Biden in tow, what that meant, that's

00:46:18.480 crystal clear to the Chinese. Um, they, they have a, a system of a sort of family politics where,

00:46:25.200 um, you know, the elite families enrich themselves. Uh, they don't do it directly. Um, they have

00:46:31.760 family members are enriched and paid off and bribed. Um, and that's just the way they do business.

00:46:37.440 So when Hunter Biden came along with Joe Biden, it was crystal clear what was going on. And, um,

00:46:42.400 2013 was a really important time for America and its allies because China had become newly 1.00

00:46:48.560 aggressive in the South China Sea was militarizing those islands and was also, um,

00:46:54.480 in the throes of ripping off, stealing America's intellectual property. Um, and, uh, Joe Biden

00:47:02.320 came away from that meeting empty handed on behalf of America. Um, but Hunter Biden came away with 10%

00:47:08.800 of this investment fund, which according to documents on the laptop by 2019 had $2.5 billion of funds under

00:47:16.720 management. So it was a very lucrative meeting for Hunter. And there's also evidence that Joe Biden,

00:47:23.360 um, met in a private room and shook hands in the, in the residence that they were staying in,

00:47:28.320 in Beijing with, uh, Jonathan Lee, who was Hunter Biden's new business partner in this venture. Um,

00:47:34.640 you know, one of the many times he's met, uh, Hunter Biden's overseas business partners. And

00:47:40.160 the thing about the next, the big deal that he, he did most recently with this, uh, Chinese energy

00:47:45.840 company, CEFC is that, um, it's not just an energy conglomerate. It's actually the capitalist arm of

00:47:53.840 President Xi's belt and road initiative, his imperial push into the rest of the world. And, um,

00:48:01.440 you know, which is detrimental to America's interests at the very least. And this was the Biden family for

00:48:07.520 the last two years of Joe Biden's vice presidency, the, the Hunter Biden and his partners were doing

00:48:14.480 work for the Chinese communist party for belt and road around the world. And I have a scene in the

00:48:21.920 book, uh, where Hunter Biden, this is in 2017, a couple of months in May, uh, after a few months

00:48:28.160 after his father stepped down as vice president or ended his term. And, uh, Hunter Biden's in a

00:48:33.520 restaurant in New York, in Manhattan. And he's pounding the table, very angry with a man called

00:48:40.240 director Zhang, who was the two IC communist party official of China, but also the two IC of, uh,

00:48:46.800 CEFC, this energy company and, uh, Hunter's furious. And he says, you owe my family $20 million for the

00:48:54.080 work that we've done for you for the past two years around the world. And that work wasn't really work.

00:48:59.440 It was basically using Joe Biden's name to open doors and to get the Chinese into various countries

00:49:06.800 like Romania, for instance, that they wanted to buy up big in. And, um, and, and Joe Biden was

00:49:13.120 part of that. He was vice president, but the money was not going to flow until after Joe Biden stepped

00:49:20.160 down. And that was the point of Joe Biden's meeting, um, with Tony Bobulinski or two meetings

00:49:26.800 with Tony Bobulinski in, um, uh, one of them was at the Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles in 2017,

00:49:33.600 after he'd stepped down, um, because he was, Joe Biden was vetting Tony Bobulinski,

00:49:38.560 who was going to formalize this joint venture with CEFC and the Biden family. Um, he was the CEO of

00:49:44.640 this. He was going to put proper due diligence into it and so on. He was a, you know, a successful

00:49:48.880 businessman in his own right, a man of a good reputation. And so they were bringing him into

00:49:53.600 this and he just found himself caught up in this complete nightmare. And, uh, and so,

00:49:58.320 you know, as we said, he was a hero for coming forward and, you know, the book, uh, would be

00:50:02.640 incomplete if it weren't for, um, his assistance. The question becomes still, uh, again, after all

00:50:09.840 two years, do you think that Hunter Biden will be subpoenaed? Do you think there will be consequences?

00:50:17.600 We, we, we know it took two seconds, uh, for the FBI to, to, uh, uh, to begin an investigation,

00:50:25.920 uh, uh, uh, uh, Don Jr. And others and the Trump administration and around the administration.

00:50:32.880 Uh, what do you have any hope at all that there will be a substantive investigation of Hunter Biden?

00:50:40.000 Um, I don't know. All I know is that the FBI has had a copy of the laptop since December, 2019,

00:50:47.920 when John Paul MacIsaac, uh, the owner of the Delaware repair shop where Hunter Biden abandoned

00:50:53.920 his waterlogged laptop. Um, he, he, after a few months, um, from April, 2019, when he got the laptop

00:51:01.200 to December, 2019, he held onto it and he gave it to the FBI. Um, didn't hear a peep from them after

00:51:07.280 that. And that's when he tried a few Republican congressmen who didn't respond to his emails.

00:51:11.920 And then he found Rudy Giuliani and then Rudy Giuliani, um, found us. So, um, I, I, I, they've

00:51:19.360 had it for a long time, whether they know the import of the material on it or not, I don't know.

00:51:24.000 They'll know if they look at the book. Um, and, and then we also know that the Southern District of

00:51:29.120 New York is also intimately, um, uh, involved or, or has investigated parts of, um, Hunter Biden's

00:51:36.800 network because, um, they, um, arrested Patrick Ho from CEFC, um, at JFK. Um, they also were

00:51:47.520 investigating the Indian tribal bonds scam that, um, had Devon Archer convicted and Bevan Cooney

00:51:54.960 and a couple of other associates of Devon Archer. Hunter Biden, uh, managed to, um, evade any problems

00:52:02.240 with that. Uh, he said he wasn't involved and they accepted that. Um, but you know, they certainly were,

00:52:09.440 uh, looking at his emails and, uh, his lawyer had to go through and give them a whole lot of information,

00:52:14.400 um, from his records. So the Southern District knows, uh, a little bit about what's going on

00:52:21.120 there. They know about the Patrick Ho case. Um, so, and it's certainly in their jurisdiction because

00:52:26.800 these, uh, Chinese, uh, billionaires, these princelings who were doing business with Hunter Biden,

00:52:32.720 um, were taking all this money, hundreds of millions of dollars out of China and buying

00:52:39.760 Manhattan real estate. And, uh, there was the $54 million, um, penthouse apartment of the limestone

00:52:46.160 Jesus so-called, um, on the West side, the, you know, beautiful building full of oligarchs and

00:52:51.920 billionaires. Um, and Hunter Biden used to go over there and, um, and, uh, Chairman Yee used to cook him

00:52:58.080 lunch. And, uh, so, uh, you know, the Southern District, this is all happening within their,

00:53:04.080 their ballywick. Um, so it's a fantastic investigation for them to undergo. So you

00:53:10.960 would hope that they're doing that. I mean, that's the most powerful, um, investigatory or

00:53:15.680 law enforcement organization in the country, um, supposed to be, uh, has a history of, um, being

00:53:22.160 independent, um, and, uh, honorable. Um, I mean, I find it rather strange that everybody who's

00:53:29.360 had a hand in exposing, um, the Biden family has had an FBI raid. I mean, I know five people

00:53:36.320 who've been raided by the FBI, including Rudy Giuliani, um, and, uh, uh, uh, you know,

00:53:43.280 Project, uh, Veritas, James O'Keefe, um, Victoria Tenzing, um, Joe DeGenerife, um, you know,

00:53:49.840 these people have been raided by the FBI. They've had all their, um, their devices seized. Uh,

00:53:55.840 Rudy Giuliani had his cloud spied upon for a year. Um, so, uh, but they're, they're being

00:54:02.160 investigated, but I'd like to know where the other, you know, the other side of the coin

00:54:07.280 is being investigated. Um, you know, we're told that there is an investigation into Hunter Biden

00:54:13.120 and into Jim Biden, his uncle, Joe's younger brother, uh, several investigations and tax evasion

00:54:19.920 allegations, um, foreign agent, um, registration, uh, impropriety allegations and other, um, allegations.

00:54:27.760 Um, if you look at the laptop, there's a lot there, um, for investigators to look at,

00:54:33.840 and they do have Tony Bobulinski has handed over all his devices to the FBI back, uh, last October.

00:54:41.840 So, um, they have the same pieces of the puzzle that I had and a lot more power to subpoena people.

00:54:47.920 So if there's any will, um, they, they should be able to get somewhere. Uh, and, but, you know,

00:54:54.240 we, I mean, they're always slow and they have to be thorough. So I'm just hoping in my heart of hearts,

00:55:01.040 have a slice of optimism that they, that there are good people somewhere in the swamp who will do the

00:55:08.160 right thing. I, I join you in that hope. Uh, unfortunately I, you know, I have to take a look at

00:55:16.080 what we've experienced over the course of the past, uh, six or seven years in particular.

00:55:22.240 And it's clear that one political party is protected and the other is not, uh, as you make

00:55:28.720 clear in the book, uh, it's, uh, it is a shame that, uh, the January six committee is, uh, uh, issuing

00:55:36.720 subpoenas left and right. Uh, but no one wants to get to the bottom. It seems in the democratic party,

00:55:43.280 uh, to this clear cut case of corruption at the highest levels of the United States government,

00:55:50.720 uh, and, uh, the family of Joe Biden. It's unequivocal. It is, it is evident. Uh, and there

00:56:00.400 is also every, every signal that there will be protection afforded no matter what from here

00:56:07.200 through. Uh, I mean, people, uh, associates of Hunter Biden, uh, are, some of them are dead.

00:56:13.680 Uh, some of them have been charged, uh, several of them, uh, yet Hunter Biden, uh, is painting away

00:56:22.480 and, uh, and selling his merchandise on canvas. Uh, that's, that's unseemly. That's,

00:56:29.680 it's, uh, intriguing. Uh, and it's also, it seems to me appalling. This is an appropriate point to say,

00:56:37.520 uh, we're going to, I'm going to give you the last word. And I, I, I think everybody would like to hear

00:56:43.420 your, your thoughts on that. There certainly seems to be, you know, a dual system of justice in America.

00:56:50.300 And, uh, there was such a frenzy from the left and from so much of the media to, um, get rid of

00:56:56.540 Donald Trump. He, he was, uh, they threw out all ethical standards, um, out the window, uh, just to,

00:57:02.780 to, to get rid of him. And, and Joe Biden benefited from that because, um, they would, you know, they

00:57:08.160 would do whatever it took to make sure that he won that election. And, uh, I, I think suppressing the

00:57:13.440 laptop was part of it and, uh, you know, changing, um, the rules, election rules, especially in battleground

00:57:19.080 states under cover of the pandemic was part of it. Um, and, uh, I, I think that for the American

00:57:25.340 people, as they see what a disaster Joe Biden has been as president, and they're starting to

00:57:31.280 understand that his character is very different from, um, how it's always been portrayed. Uh,

00:57:37.580 I think Afghanistan was the red pill for a lot of people and, um, a lot of concern that, that,

00:57:42.260 you know, if we head into a, uh, a real crisis, I mean, Afghanistan was a taste of it, but a real 0.99

00:57:48.180 crisis, um, under Joe Biden, his judgment is appalling and he surrounded himself with people

00:57:53.900 who don't appear to have any ability, uh, to, to, to, you know, control what's going on. They seem

00:58:00.700 to defer to him, believe it or not. Um, and no one's really in charge who is in charge. I think it's

00:58:06.680 a very frightening time for, um, America and for the world. I mean, the leader of the free world is

00:58:11.840 somebody, um, of who's compromised, uh, with China and with Russia and those, you know, those countries

00:58:19.380 are predators and they see America weak and they're coming in for the kill. I have to say, uh, this has

00:58:26.060 been a fascinating conversation. I've enjoyed it immensely, Miranda. I thank you for, uh, for spending

00:58:31.780 some time with us today and I compliment you again and thank you again, uh, for your, uh, just

00:58:38.260 extraordinary book, The Laptop from Hell. Uh, it has, uh, it is just a terrific read. Recommend the

00:58:46.160 book to everyone, uh, watching and listening and I appreciate your time and wish you all the very

00:58:52.540 best and please come back soon. Miranda Devine. Thanks so much, Lou. Great to talk to you. Very

00:58:58.240 generous. Join us again tomorrow for the Great America podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth, justice,

00:59:04.520 justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

The Great America Show - December 08, 2021

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