Why did Putin invade Ukraine? Why are his generals and his army failing him? And how is it that the Ukrainians have been so fiercely dogged in their defense of the homeland? Lou Biden, former Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Defense and Assistant to President Trump, and Federal Prosecutor of National Defense Cases, Kash Patel, joins us on the Great America Show.
00:14:26.360Well, I mean, I think a strong commander in chief could.
00:14:28.940I just don't think we have that right now.
00:14:30.520President Biden and his everyday actions showed it that what we've been outlining here by Biden himself going out and allowing China and Xi Jinping and Putin and Russia to rise in power, to rise in the position of dominance over the United States for the first time.
00:14:46.600Well, as far as I can remember, and those two countries taking advantage of failure in Western leadership, democratic principles to say, we are going to grow in power.
00:14:56.480We are going to dictate the terms of global authority to the U.S.
00:14:59.780Oh, and all the while, while conducting endless cyber attacks and infrastructure attacks on the United States.
00:15:06.340And since our defense department is focused on the weather, we won't pick up on it until the next administration.
00:15:13.420And I'm sure they'll have someone else to blame by then.
00:15:16.600This is what this is what the politicization of the defense apparatus and the national security apparatus has led to.
00:15:22.420And, you know, I hate to say, look, Lua, you and I have had this conversation.
00:15:24.940I'm cheering for Joe Biden to win on national security.
00:16:06.080And then we have Mitt Romney deciding that we should send planes, no matter what, for a no-fly zone, period.
00:16:14.580And he's patting everybody on the head, telling them not to be concerned about the fact that Putin has said such an act would be, he would consider it to be an act of war.
00:16:26.340We have some of the most intellectually challenged, I'll be kind as I can be, senators imaginable.
00:16:36.920And by the way, at least the Russians produced a member of their Duma who called for reparations for having taken Alaska and a Northern California port.
00:16:50.400And he wants those back immediately, plus monetary compensation.
00:16:54.960And by the way, it wouldn't be a bad idea to just launch a nuclear device toward the United States as a little bit of a wake-up call, I guess, in his mind, to make sure that we understood he was a very serious member of the Duma.
00:17:12.100Well, look, obviously, I mean, I totally disagree with anything that the Russian Duma and the Russians under Putin are doing.
00:17:16.780But at least they're putting Russian interests first, which is something that the idea of putting America's interests first makes us sound like either we're racist or xenophobes or neocons or whatever the verbiage is of the day for the lamestream media.
00:17:33.040As if me and you, being Americans, wanting to take care of America first.
00:17:37.280And that's not saying we don't want to take care of the rest of the world, but putting our initiatives first.
00:17:40.900And as you've highlighted, some of these members of Congress who are basically peddling for the defense industrial complex.
00:17:48.640Because, look, as a former chief of Stanford Defense Department, I'll be the first one to tell you.
00:17:52.280The only person that wins, the only people that win in war is the defense industrial complex because they make billions, billions with multiples of zeros.
00:18:00.560And these people that are talking about fighter jets and munitions and all this, who's paying for that, Lou?
00:18:09.600It's the United States government and the taxpayer dollars that we pour in.
00:18:13.520And those contracts pour out to the defense industrial complex.
00:18:16.900And you bet they have their hands in the pockets of so many members of Congress with all their lobbying.
00:18:22.900It is the largest lobbying conglomeration on planet Earth.
00:18:26.620And so that's why I'm not shocked to hear certain people on the Hill talk about how effectively going to war is the only solution or the right solution.
00:18:37.620And, oh, by the way, these same members of Congress, I don't know if you saw this, Lou, were able to slip in a, I think it was a 20 percent pay increase.
00:19:22.620Let me let me turn to this new poll, morning consult political poll.
00:19:28.920Sixty nine percent of voters saying the nation is on the wrong track under Joe Biden.
00:19:34.180How many of these polls do we have to see saying that Biden is on the wrong track for that to have any impression at all on the Democratic Party?
00:19:46.240And, Lou, you know this better than anyone.
00:19:48.060If that poll is saying 69 percent, you know it's more like 85 percent because these polls are never actually accurate.
00:19:54.980These are the same polls and pollsters that said President Trump had a 2 percent chance of winning and Hillary Clinton was going to be president 98 percent all day long.
00:20:04.200And people should take notice of some of these polls.
00:20:06.60070 percent of Americans are saying it's headed in the wrong direction and we're still continuing down this direction.
00:20:12.580I thought this was an elected democracy.
00:20:14.860Where our members of Congress and our leadership in the White House would react to the situation under them by the people who who generate the policies or the decisions that that should drive our nation.
00:20:25.180But what they're doing is just saying forget the masses.
00:20:36.520We the Democrats are basically have done nothing to stop a war.
00:20:41.320Yet they excoriated past Republican presidents who dare to even attempt to assist in a conflict overseas.
00:20:50.300These same people are now basically doing everything they can to entangle us in a war with the conversations of fighter jets and no fly zones and things that they have actually no idea what the consequences of that are, which is boots on the ground wearing American flags on their shoulders.
00:21:05.380And that is not something you and I ever want to see.
00:21:09.380But tragically, I don't see any American leadership steering us in another direction.
00:21:14.320Again, I couldn't agree with you more cash and the fact we've just sent off 3000 more of our our troops, our soldiers to Australia, because China's has been making belligerent remarks to the Australians, as if 3000 troops is somehow a symbol that will shake to the foundation of the CCP.
00:21:39.320CCP, its faith in their military power and their and get them to roll back their ambitions.
00:21:47.960This is this is a level of stupidity in our U.S. government that I thought that we should have if we could not intellectualize past it, at least we should recall the pain from similar acts in our history.
00:22:02.780It's not smart. It's not effective. So what is its purpose?
00:22:08.820Political posturing, Lou. That's all it is. That's like when the same thing, when the Biden administration announced that we were sending thousands of troops to Germany in the quote unquote eastern flank.
00:22:20.040Why are you sending thousands of troops to Germany in the eastern flank when we have forty five thousand U.S. troops permanently stationed in Germany?
00:22:27.800And why are you now all of a sudden saying, oh, maybe we should move some of these people to Poland like we did in the Trump administration, because they know the Polish government is our best asset over there.
00:22:37.880Why would we reward Germany who got there, bought and paid for a Russian pipeline at the expense of American interest?
00:22:47.080And this is something that most people don't know. But our stationing of forty five thousand troops in Germany is we pay for five percent of Germany's GDP.
00:22:55.860What do we get in return for that? Nothing. We get them signing with the Russians on cheap energy.
00:23:00.820We get them not doing their two percent for NATO. And now we are going to send more troops into that country and that region, like we're sending troops down to Australia to combat China, which, you know, I'm not a geography whiz, but I think they're still separated by like four thousand miles.
00:23:16.460It's political posturing. And so the New York Times and the mainstream media morons can come online and say, America is sending troops overseas.
00:23:25.940And just pause and look at that. These outlets that hate war.
00:23:30.820And rightfully so are now championing the sending of American troops overseas in their taglines or bylines and all their crazy social media accounts.
00:23:40.620And and Australia, I would have I would have insisted that their prime minister forgo and forestall any hint of authoritarianism in their government and their policies before I'd ever send another soldier to anywhere near Australia.
00:23:58.400The Australian people have got to be beside themselves.
00:24:01.760They've watched their government turn into I have to say, at least I'll say something positive.
00:24:08.200They're only quasi fascist. But it is it is disgusting to watch what they they've done.
00:24:15.640It's as if they're trying to emulate Justin Trudeau.
00:24:20.080It's it's it's it's it's heart sickening. So there it is.
00:24:25.200Let's turn to, if we may, the Russian demands that we stop our arms flow to Ukraine.
00:24:32.440Now, I thought once Putin said that we should have been furious because all we're doing is shipping arms to Ukraine while we tell China not to ship arms to Russia.
00:24:45.340There is more. You were speaking just moments ago of hypocrisy.
00:24:49.400There's hypocrisy at the highest level.
00:24:57.880That's what it's you know, I hate to laugh at it, but you'd need actual leadership to resolve that issue, which we just don't have it.
00:25:05.900I mean, I think what we would have done under the Trump administration is we would have had the ability to call Xi Jinping and Putin and say, hey, you want to talk about a global weapons supply?
00:25:14.760Let's put all of our, you know, cards on the table, arms on the table and come to a point where we stop shipping weapons to countries around third party countries around the world just to antagonize our our enemies because we don't like each other.
00:25:29.840I mean, that's something that would have it just this sort of sort of political horse trading, for lack of a better word, would not have occurred under Trump because they wouldn't do it.
00:25:39.480But now, as you pointed out, they're sending weapons. And so what does that cause the American population to do or not our elected officials, I should say, is now we're going to send weapons to the Ukraine.
00:25:50.180Well, let's just remind America that we send javelins and like all over the world because these other countries don't have the capability to make and build them.
00:25:59.660And we send javelins on the Trump administration to Ukraine like we did other dozens of other places.
00:26:03.780So sending, you know, more munitions and more ammunition again, that is more political posturing because we're sending billions of dollars worth of weapons into a country that is under the siege of war.
00:26:15.580How are they going to what are they going to do with them? Who's going to use them? Who do we train over the last two years to use those weapons?
00:26:21.480They just turned it off and now they want to turn the spigot back on and say for their next headline.
00:26:26.020Here we go. America sending 20 million, 20, 200 million dollars worth of weapons and munitions to Ukraine.
00:26:30.920It doesn't do anything. Yeah, it's it's it's just sickening to watch what is happening to to truth is always when conflicts get this large, they go well beyond the borders of Ukraine.
00:26:45.000We're watching disinformation campaigns coming across every, you know, through every current in our body politic.
00:26:54.980It is it's so hard to understand what the truth is when you have an administration that lies as a matter of form each day.
00:27:05.340So we have a very difficult time, the American people, of discerning truth.
00:27:10.460Is it truth that actually Russia has only 10 days left of munitions and weapons and and troops that have to just fold their tents and go home, which, by the way, is headline after headline saying that.
00:27:26.540Is it true that Ukraine can only hold out three days because they're surrounded by the enemy in every major city?
00:27:36.120And by the way, is it true that not a single one of the 10 largest cities in Ukraine has fallen to the Russians?
00:27:44.500The answer to the last question is it's true. Absolutely true.
00:27:50.040And I think that shocked everyone from Biden to she and most of all, Putin.
00:27:57.160I think you're right. And this is, you know, a failure in our is sort of our intelligence apparatus, you know, which I was a deputy director of Intel for President Trump for a while there.
00:28:06.040Right. And and because we focus our intelligence community are, you know, we only have so many people that can collect intelligence that we train to do that job with for.
00:28:15.660And we tell them to focus on Russia, China, Iran, terrorism and things like that.
00:28:22.000And that's why we had such a valuable stream of intelligence coming in.
00:28:25.360We were able to make geopolitical decisions based on facts and evidence and information that we could verify.
00:28:32.400This administration has completely flipped this apparatus on its head and instead is focusing on climate change and the weather, which is fine if you're the EPA.
00:28:41.140But I disagree wholeheartedly with Joe Biden's attempt to say white rage and climate change are the issues of the day for the Defense Department, who is a member of the intelligence community.
00:28:49.080So I just don't trust that we are being given the right information.
00:28:52.980And when they're making these guesstimates and hedges about global security and war to the world, I just don't have any confidence that we have a leadership that is putting out the appropriate information to the world.
00:29:09.120Instead, they're just throwing Hail Marys and saying, well, we hope or we think that Russia is going to run out of arms in 10 days, as if that could ever be possible when Xi Jinping and China are ready to basically supply them for the next two years.
00:29:22.360And people forget that Xi has a direct path to resupply Putin.
00:29:30.840It's not as if they have to get permission from Poland, Belarus, et cetera.
00:29:36.240It's ridiculous, the whole situation and heart-rending at the same time.
00:29:42.380I want to turn, if I may, to something that you and I, I suspect, never dreamed possible, that the New York Times actually took up the story of Hunter Biden and his laptop after every major news organization in the country was rationalizing, excusing,
00:30:02.220and explaining to the unwashed American peasants like you and me, that why they couldn't bring the story forward, the most amazing things.
00:30:15.680I mean, this was going on right up to just a few days before the election in November of 2020.
00:30:23.860Jen Psaki of cheap among the propagandists.
00:30:28.380Well, look, Lou, I mean, I'll start with you.
00:30:31.880You were one of the few guys courageous enough to actually report, you know, fact-based journalism.
00:30:37.100And that's exactly what the Hunter Biden laptop story encapsulates, fact-based journalism.
00:30:44.140You had an actual laptop that belonged to Hunter Biden.
00:30:47.460That was exploited and basically showed the emails and the direct information.
00:30:54.420It's almost as if you had a videotape yourself of the crimes or suspected crimes being committed, and that was reported.
00:31:01.160And Twitter and Facebook kicked everybody off who reported on it.
00:31:04.420The New York Times called it Russian disinformation.
00:31:07.860And I went back and pulled the Times article, and they said they relied on career CIA officers and former intel analysts of the highest levels to come to the conclusion that it was Russian disinformation.
00:31:19.640Actually, if you look at the letters, those group of characters actually got together to write, they themselves said, we cannot say this is Russian disinformation.
00:31:29.880We just believe it is because they were also politically in bed with anyone that wanted to take out President Trump.
00:31:35.880So the Times put out disinformation themselves so they could fit a political narrative, which was anything to take out Donald Trump.
00:31:44.140And like every other story, be it Russiagate, be it the Ukraine impeachment scenario hoax, be it now we're talking about Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:31:54.280You reported it correctly and accurately.
00:31:56.160And now the gray lady or the gray scale or whatever they're calling themselves these days is now saying and, you know, in the back pages, not that we got it wrong, but there actually might be something there.
00:32:08.260And I hope the U.S. attorney in Delaware is investigating this matter fully, as he should be doing.
00:32:14.720Yeah, it's already taken almost two years to move in any direction.
00:32:21.440I don't know of a Justice Department in history that has taken this long to come to a sensible conclusion about an investigation that is straightforward.
00:32:34.180This here is a situation where the laptop exists.
00:33:09.860And if it hadn't been for a tax settlement, I don't think that they would have ever acknowledged the reality of what has happened with that, with Hunter Biden.
00:33:21.620It's, you know, these papers, these outlets, these corporate outlets are simply political activist arms of the Democratic Party.
00:33:29.920You get the last word here, and Cash, we appreciate it.
00:33:35.680As always, our guests get the last word, and I turn it over to you.
00:33:40.000No, you and I are on the same page, and, you know, coming on your show is one of the few places in media I actually enjoy having our conversations because you allow people to speak, and you put out truth-based reporting, which is a scarcity in these days.
00:33:59.060So, you know, for me, I'm just happy to be still on the roll call for the Great America Show with Lou Dobbs.
00:34:06.500And I will, since I have the last word, I'm going to surprise you, Lou, and I'm going to tell you something I don't think you'd ever heard out of my mouth.
00:34:12.380But me, Cash Patel, is now on social media, if you can believe it.