PEOPLE INVOLVED IN ELECTION FRAUD ARE MEMBERS OF A CRIMINAL SYNDICATE
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In this episode of The Great America Show, Lou Dobbs is joined by Catherine Engelbrecht, the head of True the Vote, a national leader in the fight to restore integrity and security to our elections, and Mike Lindell, a leading advocate for eliminating in-court voting machines.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is The Great America Show, and we're thrilled you're
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with us today. Welcome to the show, and today we're talking about just how much we can trust
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our electoral system and the people who run elections all across the country, the importance
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of all of us getting involved at the local level as volunteers to be sure we have eyes on this
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election and on anyone who would cheat us out of our democracy. With close elections all across
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the country, and one in particular in Pennsylvania, the too-close-to-call GOP Senate primary there,
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where Dr. Oz has a slight lead over McCormick by fewer than 2,500 votes. Cleaning up our elections
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is now absolutely essential to the survival of our republic. There have been two documentaries
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already this year on what happened in 2020, Dave Bossie's Rigged and Dinesh D'Souza's 2,000 Mules,
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and Mike Lindell is supporting efforts in a number of states to challenge in-court voting machines to
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eliminate them. Lindell believes strongly that the best way to assure the integrity of our elections
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is to go back to the paper ballot and have one day to vote, one day only. No drop boxes, no vote by mail,
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no nonsense. Oh, yes, and voter ID as well. Our guest today on The Great America Show is a national
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leader in the fight to restore integrity and security to our elections. She's Catherine Engelbrecht,
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the head of True the Vote, whose work is a central feature of the documentary 2,000 Mules.
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We'll be talking about ballot harvesting, ballot trafficking, and the mules who run fraudulent
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ballots back and forth to the drop boxes, and much more. Catherine Engelbrecht, it's great to have you
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back with us on The Great America Show. 2,000 Mules having a heck of an impact. We're hearing lots of
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people now giving credit to you and to 2,000 Mules for some changes in attitude and direction
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that gives us some hope for some considerably improved election integrity. Give us a sense how
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2,000 Mules is doing and how you judge the success of the impact you're having.
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Oh, great question. Well, I hear that it is doing very, very well. I'm not certain of the actual
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stats comparatively, but it's one of the top streaming movies in the, I want to say I've been
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told, in the world, which seems like a lot, but it's going great guns, and so we're thrilled about
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that. As far as the impact and what we're seeing on that front, I mean, I think the thing that I am,
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first of all, I'm very, very encouraged, and I'm encouraged specifically about the actions of the
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American people who we have seen just, you know, pouring over into our site and into our socials,
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and saying, what can we do? And taking constructive action and really focusing on
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where the breakdown and process is occurring in their local elections and how they can be a part
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of addressing that, and that's really what it takes to get this back to a more level playing
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field for all American voters, and so I'm very encouraged that people are seeing ways that they
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can have a positive impact and engaging. That's what we hope for, and that's what we're achieving.
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The Arizona election fraud investigation, it seems like a direct response to 2,000 mules.
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Your judgment? Well, I want to give credit where credit is due. They have been working
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diligently. We came into that situation in 2021, and they have been working diligently.
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You know, we have been able to help and provide information, but, and I think the timing is in
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some ways connected with the exposure of the movie, but all that said, look, I mean, there's far too few
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law enforcement agents out there that are looking seriously at election crimes, and so I applaud Yuma
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County and all they're doing, and, you know, and I think it's going to, I think it's going to start a
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trend, I hope. Well, Yuma County is, you know, right on the, in the heart of what is going on in this
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country as a border county in a border state with, you know, engaged in every, in corruption on both sides
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of that border and fighting for electoral integrity on top of that, it is something of an epicenter
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for 21st century American politics, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely, and it, you know, we spent a lot
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of time in, in communities in Yuma County, and I must tell you, it's, it's very revealing that these
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communities are, are sort of kept in a way by local elected officials who really run the table with
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all manner of government programs and, and dollars that, that come into those programs, and part of
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that pay for play to have access to those programs for voters is their participation with their ballot,
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and so that's a, that's a grift that goes very deep, and we're, we're just, we're so happy to see it
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being called out for what it is, because it's, it's voter abuse. At the end of the day, this is, this is
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targeting the most vulnerable communities, and it's abusive, and we're just happy that it's being seen for
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what it is. Well, you're, you're giving everyone an opportunity to see what this electoral fraud is,
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uh, and particularly, uh, ballot, uh, trafficking, uh, which is a, a great expression for, given,
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again, Yuma County, uh, a border county, again, uh, they're used to all sorts of trafficking,
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whether it's drugs or human smuggling, sex trafficking, uh, and, and ballot trafficking.
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The corruption, uh, there's a sense that corruption sort of stops with the ballot,
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but, but really doesn't, doesn't. I mean, we're, we're looking at a political party,
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and I'm talking about the Democrats that are involved in all sorts of political corruption,
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but also, uh, very real, ugly, criminal, uh, uh, trafficking and smuggling and drugs, uh,
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because anytime you take a pro open borders position, a pro illegal immigration position,
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you're basically saying, turn that border over to the cartels, aren't you?
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Well, I mean, it's, um, it's a very dangerous situation. It's, it's a, it's a, it's a very
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overwhelming situation and people in Yuma County and, and border towns, you know, across our country,
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um, are seeing it for what it is. And, um, you know, I mean, the other thing I've learned,
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uh, in this process is, you know, the sad fact is both parties are engaged in, in this in different
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ways from, from what we can tell, but if you are complicit and you know, it's happening and
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you're doing nothing to stop it. And again, specifically now talking about, um, the election
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fraud that, that both parties know is going on, whether you're engaging in it or you're just
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allowing it to continue, uh, you're complicit and, um, that needs to be called out too. This is,
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it's gone on too long. Our process has become, uh, too weakened, uh, by the layers of a calculated
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chaos, uh, never more so than in 2020. And, um, you know, I mean, you look at any other industrialized
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countries in the world and the fair election process, and we look like a third world country,
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uh, by comparison and, and, and, and something's got to give.
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Yep. Uh, president Biden's chief of staff was making a reference to the French elections in
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which Macron came back and, uh, beat a candidate who never was given by anyone who was following,
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uh, affairs in, in France, given much of a chance. Uh, but he, uh, he talked about, well,
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that must mean that the president has a good shot, but he left out something. And that is
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the French actually have a voter identification system that is very rigid and very thorough and
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which we don't have anything approaching that. Uh, no matter what that vote outcome, there was going
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to be a high level of confidence that whoever had the highest number of votes, whether, uh, it was
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Marine Le Pen or whether it was, uh, uh, Emmanuel Macron, uh, they're going to be the winner. We don't
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have that anymore in this country. No, that's, that's exactly right. And it's by design. Um,
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you know, we look at, look at any other facet of our lives where we live in the age of Amazon one
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click, right. Where we can have things delivered accurately and efficiently. Um, and everybody
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agrees that a certain level of identification is required in that certain level of identification
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is required with Twitter where you have to upload your ID. I mean, there's, there's myriad examples
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where, where we accept that identification is appropriate, but yet in elections, somehow it
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becomes this political football, just like, you know, this protracted period of time for elections
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and the removal of signature, you know, the push for mail ballots and the removal of signature
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verifications and other checks and balances. I mean, no country does this except us. And it's because
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I believe, uh, you know, it plays to the advantage of the politicos that know how to subvert and
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manipulate a weak process. And until the American people stand up and say, look, we see what you're
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doing and we're not going to take it anymore. It's going to continue. So now is that time. And that's
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what we hope 2000 mules is constructive and illustrating it's being abused. All of these, these, um,
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notions that this is just for convenience and to make it easy to vote, it's being abused. And now
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we have to get serious about correcting it to, to uphold the sanctity of that vote for all voters.
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You know, one aspect of that is convincing a voter block, uh, that you're on their side. And this is
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what's best for you as the Democrats have done for decades now. But I, what I understand is why the
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minority, uh, in this case, uh, African-Americans continue to believe the nonsense spewed by,
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uh, the Democratic party, which is, it's sort of a bigotry of low expectations. They actually
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represent to the rest of the country that African-Americans aren't smart enough, aren't,
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uh, uh, uh, economically secure enough to afford voter identification. That's an insult. I would
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think beyond compare in modern America. Well, uh, you know, I, I absolutely agree with that statement,
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but, um, I'll also tell you that the view from the ground is that, uh, the Republican party does itself
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no favors by not, uh, walking in community in, in, in, in minority areas or areas of, of, of, of,
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of a profile that don't necessarily, uh, necessarily vote Republican. They need to, they need to be in
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those areas with a pro-liberty message, winning hearts and minds, because if they're not, then those
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communities never hear from Republicans and never hear that there are options and, and it becomes a
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one-way street. So, you know, you've got to, you've got to walk in people's lives and, and, you know,
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the old saying, people don't care how much, you know, until they know how much you care. You've just
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got to show up. And I know that there's a balance there, but look, most Americans, the, the vast
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majority want for liberty. They want for freedom. They want for their kids to have opportunities. They,
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they, they want to have opportunities for success. And sure, there are some that don't, but for the most
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part, we are a lot more alike than we are different. And it, and I believe it's going to fall now to
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the American people to find our way back together. We still are going to have two parties and there
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will still be differences of opinion, but we've got to find a way back. And I think that starting
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with election integrity is a great step in the right direction. I do too. And I agree with you.
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Absolutely. I do think that we're going to have to put severe penalties in place. We're going to have
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to create incentives and by incentives, I mean, reasons not to do something as well. Right. Right.
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This is, it's outrageous that you can traffic ballots, change the course of history and, and have
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no penalty for it because you were just playing dirty tricks. This, you know, the expression itself
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trivializes what the impact of such acts are, whether it's ballot harvesting, ballot trafficking,
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whether it is drop boxes, it almost sounds quaint and cute at various points. And you get to
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extend your voting, voting Dave to voting seasons. It's, it's an absurdity. And we don't have either
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party right now with the appetite or the incentive to do anything about it. You would think Republicans
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would have the sense to do it because it right now appears to be in their interest to do so
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given where the abuse is most often falling. But the left, the left in this country is being aided,
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as you say, by a, an indolent and indifferent, uh, Republican national committee and Republican
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leadership, frankly, in both houses on Capitol Hill. I, I agree. I agree. I mean, you know,
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we've, we've been working on this project since early 2021 and I could, I could fill up your time
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until the sun went down and came up again in the morning with the, with the blocks that we have met
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with from, from specifically from the Republican side, um, trying to prevent this information from
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coming out, uh, for, for a handful of reasons, but, but chiefly among them is this notion that,
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you know, we just need to kick this down the road. 2020 is over and, and, you know,
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better luck next time. But the problem is the, the, the issues that we're facing
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don't correct themselves. They become codified in the system of, of institutionalized fraud.
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And we never stop and do the hard work of saying, wait, what, what's really going on here? We just
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keep, you know, we just keep kicking it down the road and, and we're reached, we have reached that,
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that tipping point where we have to dig deep and say, we, the, the system
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of our elections is, is it, it, it must be fortified or we're going to lose it. I mean,
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right now, I'll tell you, I mean, you have lawsuits all over the country, you know, while, while,
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you know, we're sort of turning in circles with our, with our information and trying to,
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to inform people, um, you have, you have far left groups all over the country that are suing in states
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as they always do to prevent the cleaning of the voter rolls, uh, suing to remove citizenship
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checks. Um, but in, in one instance, I can tell you a very well-known group is paying off the
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medical debt of voters. All of these things should be pursued aggressively. And, and, and some of that
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has to happen in court, some of it in the court of public opinion, but they're not stopping.
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Right. And, and, and that raises the question because all of your good work, bringing all of
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this to, to the surface and forcing people to, if we could, if we could only get Republican and,
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uh, and corporate as media outlets, uh, to, to see, uh, 2000 meals, for example, to be reporting on what
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you discover. Uh, I mean, we taught you and I talked what, uh, uh, uh, in the fall about what
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was going on in Georgia, the auto that you had brought forward, uh, and there is laid out in
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2000 mules. I mean, we were talking about that. Now I'm going to say it was nine months ago,
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something on that order. And, and, and Georgia there, it seems wrestling with it, but I haven't
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heard a clear direction in the state of Georgia to how they're cleaning it up. Have you?
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Well, um, you know, I'm, I'm very, I was, I was very heartened when, um, the direction was that,
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you know, they came, came forward and said, you know, that they were going to open investigations
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on the basis of credible evidence. Uh, that was a very encouraging moment in January, um, based upon
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complaints that we had filed in November and a much longer conversation, you know, that you and I
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shared some months ago about all of the, you know, hits and misses of trying to figure out the
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appropriate process. That said, uh, we are at a bit of a stalemate right now. And it, and it's,
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it's a very difficult situation because we've put forward all of our information. We put all of this
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into complaints, including, you know, videos with timestamps and all of the data. Uh, but the one
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thing that we were very clear with, uh, with the state was that we have one, uh, informant who had
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shared information and, and we cannot, uh, break the confidentiality of, of that person who has
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already, you know, been, been victimized in, in a lot of ways, just by having talked to us the first
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time. And, and so we've made that very clear and where we are right now is that, um, is that it appears
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that they want to hang up everything on that one point that, that if, if we, you know, if we can't,
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if we can't divulge that source, then they're not going to do anything. And then it's a little bit of
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a, a little bit of a standoff, actually a lot of a standoff because we're not going to, but, but yet
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we have droves of information, watch the movie that shows all manner of things. So it's, it's,
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you know, I I'm not sure where that's going to end. I'm hopeful that cooler heads will prevail,
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but, um, this is very, very, very serious business. Uh, and the people that are involved in it,
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um, the bad guys, shall we say they play for keeps and anybody that thinks that they can just,
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you know, you know, throw an investigation together and, and, you know, unearth layers and
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layers of, of a criminal syndicate by, by playing softball with it. They're crazy. This is serious
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business. And if they don't treat it seriously, you know, it's, it's not going to go anywhere.
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And then, and we're going to have to keep pushing it out into the public. And we have so many more
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stories to tell, uh, and we're going to keep telling them. Well, good for you. And, uh, thanks
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for all that you and true, the vote has have done. Uh, it's, it's an incredible, incredible work
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that you're doing for the nation. I want to just ask you as well about, uh, by the way,
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speaking about the issue in Georgia, uh, there is a Republican party in Georgia that is
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schizophrenic. I believe it is very hard to make sense of anything they're doing, whether it's
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on voter identification, whether it's on their selection of voting companies, uh, to count the
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votes, uh, whether it is how they are treating the evidence that you put forward, which by the way,
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uh, true, the vote has a ton of evidence that is just amazing, uh, to, to watch, uh, and, and to
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just divert their eyes is not a significant or, or satisfactory way to respond in any way.
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Speaking of unsatisfactory responses, uh, Republican speaker, Robin, Robin boss stopped the
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Gableman investigation, uh, paused it. He said, um, and this investigation goes to the heart of what
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you're talking about. How was money used to abuse the system? What was happening? Uh, and how did
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$400 million express itself with five cities in the great state of Wisconsin? And just at the point
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where he is ready to bring charges, Gableman, the special counsel, former chief justice of the
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Supreme court in, uh, in Wisconsin. And he pauses the investigation that everybody had been waiting
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for. And, and I, and where are we now? It's remarkable what the Republican party is doing
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Well, absolutely. In Wisconsin's, you know, we've worked a lot, uh, over the years in Wisconsin
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and, and they've got, they've got their work cut out for them. I mean, you know, you, that's
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a same day voter registration state that has made all kinds of exceptions for, uh, you know,
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non-cleaning their voter or not cleaning their voter rolls, uh, you know, set aside lists of,
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of voters that get special privileges, uh, same day registration that, that time upon time after
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the cycle proves up that the people that came in to vote didn't, weren't who they said they were
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don't live where they said they lived. And this just goes on cycle after cycle. Um, and I just hope
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that justice Gableman and, and however he can, um, continues to, to press on and keep the issue
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alive. And certainly we're going to be there to help. Um, it's unfortunate that Speaker Voss did
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that. Uh, I, you know, and, and I don't know exactly what all that really means, uh, in terms
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of, you know, the cessation or the pause, but I can tell you this, the people in Wisconsin
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are not pausing. They are not pausing. They are furious and they want answers. So it's,
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you know, it's far from over as far as it goes on the ground. And by the way, just a little
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point of history on this thing for our audience, it was the, it was Voss who called for the
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investigation empowered a Gableman as the special counsel. And now suddenly doesn't like the
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result, which is, uh, he wants, uh, charges against a number of individuals who he says
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are responsible for the nightmare in Wisconsin in 2020. Uh, it's, it's really, uh, it's an
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unthinkable development, frankly. And we've seen this sort of grinding to this point in
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Wisconsin because there's so much opposition to the truth in the state of Wisconsin when
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it comes to electoral integrity. And I suspect that's what you've been dealing with, uh, across
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Yeah, absolutely. Yes. And it's, um, you know, the, the, the fact is all of the easy choices
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are in the past on this subject. Uh, the, the, the process of our elections has now been
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eroded to a point that you can't just go in and fix one thing and expect it all to sort
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of fall back in line. There are so many layers of subversion that must be identified and, and
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addressed. Um, this is not going to be an easy process, but I, I continue to come back to
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my belief that the American people, once they are awake are, are quick to not only respond
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to the laws on the books, but to the, but to engaging in a process. And I, I just, I just
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believe that, that, you know, that good wins here. I just believe that people will wake up
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and good will win. We have to keep it up. It is again, I it's, it is not easy. This is
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a very tedious, granular national conversation, but it's long overdue. So I'm, I'm very, very
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optimistic, but it's going to be tough. Well, if you're encouraged, I'm encouraged. Uh, but
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I have to also say at the same time, drop boxes are still coming, uh, in, uh, November, illegal
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voters are going to be on the rolls, uh, month long voting will still be permitted. Uh, and
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yeah, there'll be same day registration and millions of ballots will be floated out into
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the, if all places, the postal service, uh, to deliver, uh, those ballots to people who
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didn't ask for them, uh, who many of whom are not qualified, uh, to, to hold them or
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return them. Uh, it's, it's, uh, it's still with, we're what six months out. And, um, are
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we going to be ready for this election? Is this, is there any reason for us to think the results
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of this election will be any different than 2020? Well, I think so. Um, you know, we have
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made improvements in, in, in, and we've seen legislation across a number of states where
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they are removing drop boxes and they are limiting the, the mail out of ballots. Um, so
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that's, you know, that's encouraging, uh, on the voter roll side. Um, it's nothing that a
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little bit of technology couldn't fix. Um, the fact is voter rolls are, um, in almost all states
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are, are open for, uh, public inspection and, and getting those rolls and getting them cleaned up
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using current technology. There's, there's no reason that we could not, uh, run a, I mean,
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not to get too deep into it, but a parallel set that can show what clean rolls look like. Um,
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it's done every day in private industry, the resolution of identity, residency, and citizenship.
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It's not, it's, I mean, it's a heavy lift just because of the size of the data set, but it's
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totally doable and so necessary. So, you know, that, that's a way to expose the problems. And then,
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um, you know, as it, as it relates to those states that, that aren't making those improvements,
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that they still have drop boxes and still are pushing out mass bail out of ballots. Um, that's those,
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those are the states where citizens engaging will be incredibly important. Um, and the,
00:26:52.640
the demands for surveillance on those drop boxes, which, which sadly, I mean, even though we show
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video in the, in the movie, it is a fraction of what it should have been because most states didn't
00:27:05.220
bother to actually use surveillance video or, or even if they did, they didn't keep it. So it's not
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going to be perfect, but you know, we gotta, we gotta start somewhere and we gotta keep pushing.
00:27:17.580
Absolutely. I, what are your thoughts about Mike Lindell's idea of just getting rid of electronic
00:27:25.640
Well, I think that that is, I mean, it's certainly, it's ambitious, but I will tell you that
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one of the most, you know, to use a techie term elegant, um, just, you know, a, a very fluid and
00:27:36.380
efficient process. One of the most elegant processes I've ever seen was in Mexico that, uh, that they,
00:27:43.640
they conduct their elections in all paper, but that paper is equivalent to legal tender. I mean,
00:27:51.140
you, they have microfiche that run through the ballot. Uh, they, they have holograms that run
00:27:55.900
through every voter gets one. Everybody shows up on election day. They have their IDs. If they don't
00:28:02.780
have their IDs, they don't get to vote. They, they, they, I mean, there's so many things I could
00:28:07.660
tell you about those elections. Again, they've got their own issues with, with the cartels. I they're,
00:28:12.460
they're, you know, but in terms of process, you could, we could learn a lot and it points to the
00:28:18.940
fact that it can be done. The technology exists to do it and do it elegantly. Um, but another thing
00:28:26.220
that Mexico does, that's very unique is they engage their entire population in working at the polls.
00:28:31.920
They have a lottery. And if you get chosen, you work at the polls and you're a member of a team at
00:28:38.420
your, at your, at your polling location. And, and it's a all hands on deck kind of thing.
00:28:43.640
That's something that would necessarily need to happen if you were going to go to all paper,
00:28:49.200
because it's a, it's a labor intensive process. So you have to break, break it down into smaller
00:28:53.420
groups and up the securities in other ways. But you know, it's, it certainly takes a, you know,
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it takes the guesswork out of it because you have the paper trail quite literally.
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Well, that's, you know, that's an interesting idea. And I think most people probably are as
00:29:09.760
surprised as I am. I had never heard of that process in Mexico. And, you know, that's just
00:29:15.840
close enough. If I recall from Yuma, Arizona to send a couple of emissaries down to Mexico city and
00:29:22.300
get, get the lay of the land and come back with that, that idea. 100%. You know, it would be a
00:29:28.160
great thing. The rate, the way that I know this is that back in 2013, 2014, somewhere in there,
00:29:35.100
you know, when, when one of the main arguments of the day was photo voter identification,
00:29:41.260
and I'm in Texas, you know, and, and along the border, the, the, the rhetoric was that this was
00:29:48.100
unfair to the Latin community. And I just, I knew it not to be the case because simply because
00:29:58.640
all Latin countries have photo voter identification. And so we doggone got on a, got on a plane and went
00:30:07.280
to, to, to understand how they vote in Mexico. And they have a very unique situation in that
00:30:12.320
after a, after a failed presidential election, they formed a body that is a public private partnership
00:30:19.700
that, that came up with this new, this new process. And, and at that time they had a,
00:30:27.900
like a dormitory that they house people from other countries to come and learn about their process
00:30:33.520
and to work together to improve process. And I asked them if they had to your example,
00:30:38.320
to your suggestion, had they ever hosted anybody from America? Um, we were the first organization,
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according to them, the first organization from the U S that had ever come to learn.
00:30:51.200
Well, let's light up that idea again. Uh, I love it. I love it. There's a lot,
00:30:56.940
there's a lot to learn from other countries, but, but to keep it back to our balance, right? So,
00:31:01.380
I mean, you still, you have to, we have to take, take the best of what we can learn from other
00:31:06.040
countries and then bring it back to America, which is the way it's always been right. The melting pot
00:31:10.160
of America that can find that balance between, you know, national security and, and, and state
00:31:15.560
sovereignty and, and, and personal liberty. If there's a balance there to be had, but we, we have
00:31:20.920
to stop playing politics. You can play politics with, with anything you want, just leave the elections
00:31:26.060
sacrosanct. Yep. And you know, the old Stalin quote, you know, vote, vote as much as you,
00:31:34.100
you want, as long as I get to decide who counts the votes. And that's worked for a very long time.
00:31:41.440
I want to turn as we wrap up here, uh, to just simply what we should expect, uh, come November.
00:31:50.380
The left is continuing its abuse. The right is continuing its neglect and indifference and
00:31:56.480
laziness. Uh, it is, it is time for us to get, get straight on what has to be done. Um, I do want
00:32:05.160
to, which States, I guess I'm going to ask this in a positive manner, which States will we see the
00:32:10.420
greatest improvement in electoral, uh, uh, security? Um, there is really good legislation moving forward
00:32:18.120
in, in, uh, what's been passed in Texas. It's moving forward in Arizona, in Pennsylvania, um, in,
00:32:25.640
in Wisconsin. I'm not sure if they'll get it passed, but, but they're trying, um,
00:32:31.540
um, in Georgia, they've, they've, they've made some, some good strides. Um, there, you know,
00:32:39.020
there, there's some in Missouri had just did some good stuff in legislation or removal of drop boxes.
00:32:43.100
Uh, so, so there are some improvements, but I think that the, the, the difference that will be made in
00:32:49.900
2022 is for Americans to get out and hold the line in their local elections and, and just do what you can,
00:32:56.700
um, um, in the situation that exists. If there are drop boxes, they need to have surveillance roles
00:33:03.140
need to be known for what they are, um, in terms of, uh, the level of inaccuracy. It just needs to be
00:33:09.560
made transparent. And, um, and then we just, we can't lift our heads up. We have to go straight into
00:33:15.720
2024, uh, continuing to, to, to fight for improvements. Well, I, we encourage our audience,
00:33:24.560
everybody in this audience, always to be involved at the local level, to be full participants in
00:33:31.160
whether it's a zoning board or the city, uh, city council meeting, uh, or your school board, uh,
00:33:37.460
whichever, whichever you like, uh, but get into it and, uh, be sure that you're available to,
00:33:43.240
to work on election day and election night as in some cases, election season, because your voice
00:33:50.420
and your eyes are needed, uh, to watch over that process at the local level, uh, and everybody
00:33:56.840
can make a huge contribution, uh, to the, uh, to the outcome. Uh, we always Catherine give our guests
00:34:05.500
the last, uh, the last word and, uh, you get the last word here. Um, I think my last word for today
00:34:14.300
is that while I know what we're bringing forward and, and, and so many other things that, that,
00:34:21.760
you know, hit the airwaves, hit the headlines seem overwhelming. This country is worth fighting
00:34:27.060
and worth working for, worth working for, and worth working with your fellow countrymen. So, um,
00:34:33.720
I'm very heartened and I hope that all your listeners will be too. It's, it's tough, but it is worth doing.
00:34:38.580
Well said. And Catherine, uh, thanks so much for all you're doing. You're living, uh, you're living
00:34:46.340
your counsel to the rest of us. And we appreciate all of you and true. The vote has done and will
00:34:52.040
continue to do. Uh, you've been at this for, for many a year before I know at least, uh, the last,
00:34:58.580
uh, what, 12, 13 years. Yeah, that's right. Catherine, thanks so much for being here
00:35:03.580
on the great American show. We really appreciate it for having me. Thank you for having me.
00:35:08.580
Catherine Engelbrecht, true, the vote. Thanks everybody for joining us here today with us
00:35:15.040
tomorrow. We'll be John Solomon, the editor of just the news. We'll be bringing you right up to
00:35:20.840
date on the John Durham investigation and the trial now underway in Washington in which Durham
00:35:27.200
prosecutors charged Democrat attorney, Michael Sussman with lying to the FBI and in playing a key
00:35:34.380
role in the Russia collusion disinformation campaign created by the Clinton campaign
00:35:40.900
apparatus to attack president Donald Trump and which gave rise to the special counsel investigation
00:35:47.860
of president Trump. That's here tomorrow on the great America show till then. God bless you