The Great America Show - PEOPLE INVOLVED IN ELECTION FRAUD ARE MEMBERS OF A CRIMINAL SYNDICATE

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is The Great America Show, and we're thrilled you're

00:00:05.320 with us today. Welcome to the show, and today we're talking about just how much we can trust

00:00:10.920 our electoral system and the people who run elections all across the country, the importance

00:00:16.640 of all of us getting involved at the local level as volunteers to be sure we have eyes on this

00:00:22.300 election and on anyone who would cheat us out of our democracy. With close elections all across

00:00:28.820 the country, and one in particular in Pennsylvania, the too-close-to-call GOP Senate primary there,

00:00:36.340 where Dr. Oz has a slight lead over McCormick by fewer than 2,500 votes. Cleaning up our elections

00:00:43.960 is now absolutely essential to the survival of our republic. There have been two documentaries

00:00:49.920 already this year on what happened in 2020, Dave Bossie's Rigged and Dinesh D'Souza's 2,000 Mules,

00:00:57.100 and Mike Lindell is supporting efforts in a number of states to challenge in-court voting machines to

00:01:03.820 eliminate them. Lindell believes strongly that the best way to assure the integrity of our elections

00:01:09.300 is to go back to the paper ballot and have one day to vote, one day only. No drop boxes, no vote by mail,

00:01:17.560 no nonsense. Oh, yes, and voter ID as well. Our guest today on The Great America Show is a national

00:01:25.420 leader in the fight to restore integrity and security to our elections. She's Catherine Engelbrecht,

00:01:31.740 the head of True the Vote, whose work is a central feature of the documentary 2,000 Mules.

00:01:37.700 We'll be talking about ballot harvesting, ballot trafficking, and the mules who run fraudulent

00:01:42.780 ballots back and forth to the drop boxes, and much more. Catherine Engelbrecht, it's great to have you

00:01:49.280 back with us on The Great America Show. 2,000 Mules having a heck of an impact. We're hearing lots of

00:01:57.780 people now giving credit to you and to 2,000 Mules for some changes in attitude and direction

00:02:04.980 that gives us some hope for some considerably improved election integrity. Give us a sense how

00:02:14.460 2,000 Mules is doing and how you judge the success of the impact you're having.

00:02:22.960 Oh, great question. Well, I hear that it is doing very, very well. I'm not certain of the actual

00:02:28.420 stats comparatively, but it's one of the top streaming movies in the, I want to say I've been

00:02:35.080 told, in the world, which seems like a lot, but it's going great guns, and so we're thrilled about

00:02:41.160 that. As far as the impact and what we're seeing on that front, I mean, I think the thing that I am,

00:02:49.260 first of all, I'm very, very encouraged, and I'm encouraged specifically about the actions of the

00:02:57.020 American people who we have seen just, you know, pouring over into our site and into our socials,

00:03:03.320 and saying, what can we do? And taking constructive action and really focusing on

00:03:09.120 where the breakdown and process is occurring in their local elections and how they can be a part

00:03:14.360 of addressing that, and that's really what it takes to get this back to a more level playing

00:03:20.560 field for all American voters, and so I'm very encouraged that people are seeing ways that they

00:03:26.660 can have a positive impact and engaging. That's what we hope for, and that's what we're achieving.

00:03:33.300 The Arizona election fraud investigation, it seems like a direct response to 2,000 mules. 0.98

00:03:41.520 Your judgment? Well, I want to give credit where credit is due. They have been working

00:03:47.800 diligently. We came into that situation in 2021, and they have been working diligently.

00:03:54.900 You know, we have been able to help and provide information, but, and I think the timing is in

00:04:03.760 some ways connected with the exposure of the movie, but all that said, look, I mean, there's far too few

00:04:09.980 law enforcement agents out there that are looking seriously at election crimes, and so I applaud Yuma

00:04:17.700 County and all they're doing, and, you know, and I think it's going to, I think it's going to start a

00:04:23.420 trend, I hope. Well, Yuma County is, you know, right on the, in the heart of what is going on in this

00:04:31.020 country as a border county in a border state with, you know, engaged in every, in corruption on both sides

00:04:39.120 of that border and fighting for electoral integrity on top of that, it is something of an epicenter

00:04:46.780 for 21st century American politics, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely, and it, you know, we spent a lot

00:04:55.200 of time in, in communities in Yuma County, and I must tell you, it's, it's very revealing that these

00:05:03.260 communities are, are sort of kept in a way by local elected officials who really run the table with

00:05:11.900 all manner of government programs and, and dollars that, that come into those programs, and part of

00:05:18.620 that pay for play to have access to those programs for voters is their participation with their ballot,

00:05:25.860 and so that's a, that's a grift that goes very deep, and we're, we're just, we're so happy to see it

00:05:33.120 being called out for what it is, because it's, it's voter abuse. At the end of the day, this is, this is

00:05:39.200 targeting the most vulnerable communities, and it's abusive, and we're just happy that it's being seen for

00:05:45.380 what it is. Well, you're, you're giving everyone an opportunity to see what this electoral fraud is,

00:05:51.820 uh, and particularly, uh, ballot, uh, trafficking, uh, which is a, a great expression for, given,

00:05:59.240 again, Yuma County, uh, a border county, again, uh, they're used to all sorts of trafficking,

00:06:05.420 whether it's drugs or human smuggling, sex trafficking, uh, and, and ballot trafficking.

00:06:12.380 The corruption, uh, there's a sense that corruption sort of stops with the ballot,

00:06:17.640 but, but really doesn't, doesn't. I mean, we're, we're looking at a political party,

00:06:22.640 and I'm talking about the Democrats that are involved in all sorts of political corruption,

00:06:28.100 but also, uh, very real, ugly, criminal, uh, uh, trafficking and smuggling and drugs, uh,

00:06:38.300 because anytime you take a pro open borders position, a pro illegal immigration position,

00:06:45.900 you're basically saying, turn that border over to the cartels, aren't you?

00:06:51.980 Well, I mean, it's, um, it's a very dangerous situation. It's, it's a, it's a, it's a very

00:06:59.120 overwhelming situation and people in Yuma County and, and border towns, you know, across our country,

00:07:06.360 um, are seeing it for what it is. And, um, you know, I mean, the other thing I've learned,

00:07:13.060 uh, in this process is, you know, the sad fact is both parties are engaged in, in this in different

00:07:22.200 ways from, from what we can tell, but if you are complicit and you know, it's happening and

00:07:27.340 you're doing nothing to stop it. And again, specifically now talking about, um, the election

00:07:31.640 fraud that, that both parties know is going on, whether you're engaging in it or you're just

00:07:37.600 allowing it to continue, uh, you're complicit and, um, that needs to be called out too. This is,

00:07:42.880 it's gone on too long. Our process has become, uh, too weakened, uh, by the layers of a calculated

00:07:52.000 chaos, uh, never more so than in 2020. And, um, you know, I mean, you look at any other industrialized 0.90

00:07:59.400 countries in the world and the fair election process, and we look like a third world country,

00:08:04.320 uh, by comparison and, and, and, and something's got to give.

00:08:08.660 Yep. Uh, president Biden's chief of staff was making a reference to the French elections in

00:08:14.460 which Macron came back and, uh, beat a candidate who never was given by anyone who was following,

00:08:21.440 uh, affairs in, in France, given much of a chance. Uh, but he, uh, he talked about, well,

00:08:28.920 that must mean that the president has a good shot, but he left out something. And that is

00:08:33.520 the French actually have a voter identification system that is very rigid and very thorough and

00:08:41.380 which we don't have anything approaching that. Uh, no matter what that vote outcome, there was going

00:08:46.740 to be a high level of confidence that whoever had the highest number of votes, whether, uh, it was

00:08:52.300 Marine Le Pen or whether it was, uh, uh, Emmanuel Macron, uh, they're going to be the winner. We don't

00:09:00.000 have that anymore in this country. No, that's, that's exactly right. And it's by design. Um,

00:09:07.700 you know, we look at, look at any other facet of our lives where we live in the age of Amazon one 0.99

00:09:12.540 click, right. Where we can have things delivered accurately and efficiently. Um, and everybody

00:09:17.920 agrees that a certain level of identification is required in that certain level of identification

00:09:23.660 is required with Twitter where you have to upload your ID. I mean, there's, there's myriad examples

00:09:29.360 where, where we accept that identification is appropriate, but yet in elections, somehow it

00:09:34.940 becomes this political football, just like, you know, this protracted period of time for elections

00:09:41.060 and the removal of signature, you know, the push for mail ballots and the removal of signature

00:09:46.560 verifications and other checks and balances. I mean, no country does this except us. And it's because

00:09:52.860 I believe, uh, you know, it plays to the advantage of the politicos that know how to subvert and

00:09:59.800 manipulate a weak process. And until the American people stand up and say, look, we see what you're

00:10:05.120 doing and we're not going to take it anymore. It's going to continue. So now is that time. And that's

00:10:10.440 what we hope 2000 mules is constructive and illustrating it's being abused. All of these, these, um,

00:10:17.880 notions that this is just for convenience and to make it easy to vote, it's being abused. And now

00:10:24.000 we have to get serious about correcting it to, to uphold the sanctity of that vote for all voters.

00:10:29.440 You know, one aspect of that is convincing a voter block, uh, that you're on their side. And this is

00:10:36.960 what's best for you as the Democrats have done for decades now. But I, what I understand is why the

00:10:44.100 minority, uh, in this case, uh, African-Americans continue to believe the nonsense spewed by, 0.85

00:10:52.020 uh, the Democratic party, which is, it's sort of a bigotry of low expectations. They actually

00:11:02.320 represent to the rest of the country that African-Americans aren't smart enough, aren't, 0.98

00:11:07.660 uh, uh, uh, economically secure enough to afford voter identification. That's an insult. I would 0.99

00:11:14.520 think beyond compare in modern America. Well, uh, you know, I, I absolutely agree with that statement,

00:11:22.080 but, um, I'll also tell you that the view from the ground is that, uh, the Republican party does itself

00:11:30.000 no favors by not, uh, walking in community in, in, in, in minority areas or areas of, of, of, of,

00:11:37.720 of a profile that don't necessarily, uh, necessarily vote Republican. They need to, they need to be in

00:11:45.960 those areas with a pro-liberty message, winning hearts and minds, because if they're not, then those

00:11:52.480 communities never hear from Republicans and never hear that there are options and, and it becomes a

00:11:57.920 one-way street. So, you know, you've got to, you've got to walk in people's lives and, and, you know,

00:12:03.040 the old saying, people don't care how much, you know, until they know how much you care. You've just

00:12:07.540 got to show up. And I know that there's a balance there, but look, most Americans, the, the vast

00:12:13.640 majority want for liberty. They want for freedom. They want for their kids to have opportunities. They,

00:12:20.720 they, they want to have opportunities for success. And sure, there are some that don't, but for the most

00:12:25.160 part, we are a lot more alike than we are different. And it, and I believe it's going to fall now to

00:12:30.540 the American people to find our way back together. We still are going to have two parties and there

00:12:36.600 will still be differences of opinion, but we've got to find a way back. And I think that starting

00:12:42.360 with election integrity is a great step in the right direction. I do too. And I agree with you.

00:12:48.600 Absolutely. I do think that we're going to have to put severe penalties in place. We're going to have

00:12:55.640 to create incentives and by incentives, I mean, reasons not to do something as well. Right. Right.

00:13:02.240 This is, it's outrageous that you can traffic ballots, change the course of history and, and have

00:13:10.100 no penalty for it because you were just playing dirty tricks. This, you know, the expression itself

00:13:16.320 trivializes what the impact of such acts are, whether it's ballot harvesting, ballot trafficking,

00:13:24.100 whether it is drop boxes, it almost sounds quaint and cute at various points. And you get to

00:13:31.660 extend your voting, voting Dave to voting seasons. It's, it's an absurdity. And we don't have either

00:13:41.360 party right now with the appetite or the incentive to do anything about it. You would think Republicans

00:13:47.500 would have the sense to do it because it right now appears to be in their interest to do so

00:13:52.140 given where the abuse is most often falling. But the left, the left in this country is being aided,

00:14:01.620 as you say, by a, an indolent and indifferent, uh, Republican national committee and Republican

00:14:08.500 leadership, frankly, in both houses on Capitol Hill. I, I agree. I agree. I mean, you know,

00:14:17.160 we've, we've been working on this project since early 2021 and I could, I could fill up your time

00:14:26.620 until the sun went down and came up again in the morning with the, with the blocks that we have met

00:14:31.320 with from, from specifically from the Republican side, um, trying to prevent this information from

00:14:39.260 coming out, uh, for, for a handful of reasons, but, but chiefly among them is this notion that,

00:14:45.160 you know, we just need to kick this down the road. 2020 is over and, and, you know,

00:14:50.120 better luck next time. But the problem is the, the, the issues that we're facing

00:14:55.720 don't correct themselves. They become codified in the system of, of institutionalized fraud.

00:15:02.980 And we never stop and do the hard work of saying, wait, what, what's really going on here? We just

00:15:09.380 keep, you know, we just keep kicking it down the road and, and we're reached, we have reached that,

00:15:14.640 that tipping point where we have to dig deep and say, we, the, the system

00:15:19.120 of our elections is, is it, it, it must be fortified or we're going to lose it. I mean,

00:15:26.720 right now, I'll tell you, I mean, you have lawsuits all over the country, you know, while, while,

00:15:31.520 you know, we're sort of turning in circles with our, with our information and trying to,

00:15:35.640 to inform people, um, you have, you have far left groups all over the country that are suing in states

00:15:43.340 as they always do to prevent the cleaning of the voter rolls, uh, suing to remove citizenship

00:15:48.900 checks. Um, but in, in one instance, I can tell you a very well-known group is paying off the

00:15:55.540 medical debt of voters. All of these things should be pursued aggressively. And, and, and some of that

00:16:02.320 has to happen in court, some of it in the court of public opinion, but they're not stopping.

00:16:06.920 Right. And, and, and that raises the question because all of your good work, bringing all of

00:16:12.900 this to, to the surface and forcing people to, if we could, if we could only get Republican and,

00:16:21.040 uh, and corporate as media outlets, uh, to, to see, uh, 2000 meals, for example, to be reporting on what

00:16:29.420 you discover. Uh, I mean, we taught you and I talked what, uh, uh, uh, in the fall about what

00:16:36.800 was going on in Georgia, the auto that you had brought forward, uh, and there is laid out in

00:16:42.460 2000 mules. I mean, we were talking about that. Now I'm going to say it was nine months ago,

00:16:48.160 something on that order. And, and, and Georgia there, it seems wrestling with it, but I haven't

00:16:55.120 heard a clear direction in the state of Georgia to how they're cleaning it up. Have you?

00:17:01.660 Well, um, you know, I'm, I'm very, I was, I was very heartened when, um, the direction was that,

00:17:11.280 you know, they came, came forward and said, you know, that they were going to open investigations

00:17:14.660 on the basis of credible evidence. Uh, that was a very encouraging moment in January, um, based upon

00:17:23.360 complaints that we had filed in November and a much longer conversation, you know, that you and I

00:17:28.520 shared some months ago about all of the, you know, hits and misses of trying to figure out the

00:17:33.580 appropriate process. That said, uh, we are at a bit of a stalemate right now. And it, and it's,

00:17:39.120 it's a very difficult situation because we've put forward all of our information. We put all of this

00:17:45.560 into complaints, including, you know, videos with timestamps and all of the data. Uh, but the one

00:17:51.100 thing that we were very clear with, uh, with the state was that we have one, uh, informant who had

00:17:57.580 shared information and, and we cannot, uh, break the confidentiality of, of that person who has

00:18:04.400 already, you know, been, been victimized in, in a lot of ways, just by having talked to us the first

00:18:10.080 time. And, and so we've made that very clear and where we are right now is that, um, is that it appears

00:18:18.620 that they want to hang up everything on that one point that, that if, if we, you know, if we can't,

00:18:25.740 if we can't divulge that source, then they're not going to do anything. And then it's a little bit of

00:18:29.720 a, a little bit of a standoff, actually a lot of a standoff because we're not going to, but, but yet

00:18:36.400 we have droves of information, watch the movie that shows all manner of things. So it's, it's,

00:18:44.200 you know, I I'm not sure where that's going to end. I'm hopeful that cooler heads will prevail,

00:18:49.320 but, um, this is very, very, very serious business. Uh, and the people that are involved in it,

00:18:57.060 um, the bad guys, shall we say they play for keeps and anybody that thinks that they can just,

00:19:02.540 you know, you know, throw an investigation together and, and, you know, unearth layers and

00:19:09.920 layers of, of a criminal syndicate by, by playing softball with it. They're crazy. This is serious 0.98

00:19:16.600 business. And if they don't treat it seriously, you know, it's, it's not going to go anywhere.

00:19:22.400 And then, and we're going to have to keep pushing it out into the public. And we have so many more

00:19:26.260 stories to tell, uh, and we're going to keep telling them. Well, good for you. And, uh, thanks

00:19:31.940 for all that you and true, the vote has have done. Uh, it's, it's an incredible, incredible work

00:19:39.060 that you're doing for the nation. I want to just ask you as well about, uh, by the way,

00:19:44.260 speaking about the issue in Georgia, uh, there is a Republican party in Georgia that is 0.66

00:19:50.060 schizophrenic. I believe it is very hard to make sense of anything they're doing, whether it's

00:19:56.020 on voter identification, whether it's on their selection of voting companies, uh, to count the

00:20:01.620 votes, uh, whether it is how they are treating the evidence that you put forward, which by the way,

00:20:07.780 uh, true, the vote has a ton of evidence that is just amazing, uh, to, to watch, uh, and, and to

00:20:17.720 just divert their eyes is not a significant or, or satisfactory way to respond in any way.

00:20:25.160 Speaking of unsatisfactory responses, uh, Republican speaker, Robin, Robin boss stopped the

00:20:33.880 Gableman investigation, uh, paused it. He said, um, and this investigation goes to the heart of what

00:20:42.280 you're talking about. How was money used to abuse the system? What was happening? Uh, and how did

00:20:49.000 $400 million express itself with five cities in the great state of Wisconsin? And just at the point

00:20:56.480 where he is ready to bring charges, Gableman, the special counsel, former chief justice of the

00:21:03.420 Supreme court in, uh, in Wisconsin. And he pauses the investigation that everybody had been waiting

00:21:11.320 for. And, and I, and where are we now? It's remarkable what the Republican party is doing

00:21:18.500 in Wisconsin as well. Don't you think?

00:21:20.480 Well, absolutely. In Wisconsin's, you know, we've worked a lot, uh, over the years in Wisconsin

00:21:28.500 and, and they've got, they've got their work cut out for them. I mean, you know, you, that's

00:21:34.180 a same day voter registration state that has made all kinds of exceptions for, uh, you know,

00:21:40.820 non-cleaning their voter or not cleaning their voter rolls, uh, you know, set aside lists of,

00:21:46.240 of voters that get special privileges, uh, same day registration that, that time upon time after

00:21:53.560 the cycle proves up that the people that came in to vote didn't, weren't who they said they were

00:21:58.460 don't live where they said they lived. And this just goes on cycle after cycle. Um, and I just hope

00:22:03.960 that justice Gableman and, and however he can, um, continues to, to press on and keep the issue

00:22:10.660 alive. And certainly we're going to be there to help. Um, it's unfortunate that Speaker Voss did

00:22:16.100 that. Uh, I, you know, and, and I don't know exactly what all that really means, uh, in terms

00:22:23.680 of, you know, the cessation or the pause, but I can tell you this, the people in Wisconsin

00:22:29.340 are not pausing. They are not pausing. They are furious and they want answers. So it's,

00:22:35.460 you know, it's far from over as far as it goes on the ground. And by the way, just a little

00:22:40.360 point of history on this thing for our audience, it was the, it was Voss who called for the

00:22:45.580 investigation empowered a Gableman as the special counsel. And now suddenly doesn't like the

00:22:52.940 result, which is, uh, he wants, uh, charges against a number of individuals who he says

00:23:00.200 are responsible for the nightmare in Wisconsin in 2020. Uh, it's, it's really, uh, it's an

00:23:08.960 unthinkable development, frankly. And we've seen this sort of grinding to this point in

00:23:16.380 Wisconsin because there's so much opposition to the truth in the state of Wisconsin when

00:23:21.600 it comes to electoral integrity. And I suspect that's what you've been dealing with, uh, across

00:23:26.400 the country.

00:23:28.760 Yeah, absolutely. Yes. And it's, um, you know, the, the, the fact is all of the easy choices

00:23:36.420 are in the past on this subject. Uh, the, the, the process of our elections has now been

00:23:43.340 eroded to a point that you can't just go in and fix one thing and expect it all to sort

00:23:50.120 of fall back in line. There are so many layers of subversion that must be identified and, and

00:23:57.840 addressed. Um, this is not going to be an easy process, but I, I continue to come back to

00:24:05.160 my belief that the American people, once they are awake are, are quick to not only respond

00:24:12.260 to the laws on the books, but to the, but to engaging in a process. And I, I just, I just

00:24:18.280 believe that, that, you know, that good wins here. I just believe that people will wake up

00:24:23.500 and good will win. We have to keep it up. It is again, I it's, it is not easy. This is

00:24:28.440 a very tedious, granular national conversation, but it's long overdue. So I'm, I'm very, very

00:24:34.780 optimistic, but it's going to be tough. Well, if you're encouraged, I'm encouraged. Uh, but

00:24:40.380 I have to also say at the same time, drop boxes are still coming, uh, in, uh, November, illegal

00:24:47.780 voters are going to be on the rolls, uh, month long voting will still be permitted. Uh, and

00:24:53.760 yeah, there'll be same day registration and millions of ballots will be floated out into

00:24:59.840 the, if all places, the postal service, uh, to deliver, uh, those ballots to people who

00:25:06.720 didn't ask for them, uh, who many of whom are not qualified, uh, to, to hold them or

00:25:12.160 return them. Uh, it's, it's, uh, it's still with, we're what six months out. And, um, are

00:25:20.500 we going to be ready for this election? Is this, is there any reason for us to think the results

00:25:26.840 of this election will be any different than 2020? Well, I think so. Um, you know, we have

00:25:34.960 made improvements in, in, in, and we've seen legislation across a number of states where

00:25:39.700 they are removing drop boxes and they are limiting the, the mail out of ballots. Um, so

00:25:47.160 that's, you know, that's encouraging, uh, on the voter roll side. Um, it's nothing that a

00:25:53.160 little bit of technology couldn't fix. Um, the fact is voter rolls are, um, in almost all states

00:26:01.340 are, are open for, uh, public inspection and, and getting those rolls and getting them cleaned up

00:26:08.840 using current technology. There's, there's no reason that we could not, uh, run a, I mean,

00:26:14.320 not to get too deep into it, but a parallel set that can show what clean rolls look like. Um,

00:26:20.360 it's done every day in private industry, the resolution of identity, residency, and citizenship.

00:26:24.900 It's not, it's, I mean, it's a heavy lift just because of the size of the data set, but it's

00:26:29.360 totally doable and so necessary. So, you know, that, that's a way to expose the problems. And then,

00:26:35.820 um, you know, as it, as it relates to those states that, that aren't making those improvements,

00:26:40.960 that they still have drop boxes and still are pushing out mass bail out of ballots. Um, that's those,

00:26:46.940 those are the states where citizens engaging will be incredibly important. Um, and the,

00:26:52.640 the demands for surveillance on those drop boxes, which, which sadly, I mean, even though we show

00:26:59.240 video in the, in the movie, it is a fraction of what it should have been because most states didn't

00:27:05.220 bother to actually use surveillance video or, or even if they did, they didn't keep it. So it's not

00:27:12.420 going to be perfect, but you know, we gotta, we gotta start somewhere and we gotta keep pushing.

00:27:17.580 Absolutely. I, what are your thoughts about Mike Lindell's idea of just getting rid of electronic

00:27:23.540 boating?

00:27:25.640 Well, I think that that is, I mean, it's certainly, it's ambitious, but I will tell you that

00:27:30.060 one of the most, you know, to use a techie term elegant, um, just, you know, a, a very fluid and

00:27:36.380 efficient process. One of the most elegant processes I've ever seen was in Mexico that, uh, that they,

00:27:43.640 they conduct their elections in all paper, but that paper is equivalent to legal tender. I mean,

00:27:51.140 you, they have microfiche that run through the ballot. Uh, they, they have holograms that run

00:27:55.900 through every voter gets one. Everybody shows up on election day. They have their IDs. If they don't

00:28:02.780 have their IDs, they don't get to vote. They, they, they, I mean, there's so many things I could

00:28:07.660 tell you about those elections. Again, they've got their own issues with, with the cartels. I they're,

00:28:12.460 they're, you know, but in terms of process, you could, we could learn a lot and it points to the

00:28:18.940 fact that it can be done. The technology exists to do it and do it elegantly. Um, but another thing

00:28:26.220 that Mexico does, that's very unique is they engage their entire population in working at the polls.

00:28:31.920 They have a lottery. And if you get chosen, you work at the polls and you're a member of a team at

00:28:38.420 your, at your, at your polling location. And, and it's a all hands on deck kind of thing.

00:28:43.640 That's something that would necessarily need to happen if you were going to go to all paper,

00:28:49.200 because it's a, it's a labor intensive process. So you have to break, break it down into smaller

00:28:53.420 groups and up the securities in other ways. But you know, it's, it certainly takes a, you know,

00:28:59.440 it takes the guesswork out of it because you have the paper trail quite literally.

00:29:04.440 Well, that's, you know, that's an interesting idea. And I think most people probably are as

00:29:09.760 surprised as I am. I had never heard of that process in Mexico. And, you know, that's just

00:29:15.840 close enough. If I recall from Yuma, Arizona to send a couple of emissaries down to Mexico city and

00:29:22.300 get, get the lay of the land and come back with that, that idea. 100%. You know, it would be a

00:29:28.160 great thing. The rate, the way that I know this is that back in 2013, 2014, somewhere in there,

00:29:35.100 you know, when, when one of the main arguments of the day was photo voter identification,

00:29:41.260 and I'm in Texas, you know, and, and along the border, the, the, the rhetoric was that this was

00:29:48.100 unfair to the Latin community. And I just, I knew it not to be the case because simply because 0.99

00:29:58.640 all Latin countries have photo voter identification. And so we doggone got on a, got on a plane and went

00:30:07.280 to, to, to understand how they vote in Mexico. And they have a very unique situation in that

00:30:12.320 after a, after a failed presidential election, they formed a body that is a public private partnership

00:30:19.700 that, that came up with this new, this new process. And, and at that time they had a,

00:30:27.900 like a dormitory that they house people from other countries to come and learn about their process

00:30:33.520 and to work together to improve process. And I asked them if they had to your example,

00:30:38.320 to your suggestion, had they ever hosted anybody from America? Um, we were the first organization,

00:30:45.540 according to them, the first organization from the U S that had ever come to learn.

00:30:51.200 Well, let's light up that idea again. Uh, I love it. I love it. There's a lot,

00:30:56.940 there's a lot to learn from other countries, but, but to keep it back to our balance, right? So,

00:31:01.380 I mean, you still, you have to, we have to take, take the best of what we can learn from other

00:31:06.040 countries and then bring it back to America, which is the way it's always been right. The melting pot 0.79

00:31:10.160 of America that can find that balance between, you know, national security and, and, and state

00:31:15.560 sovereignty and, and, and personal liberty. If there's a balance there to be had, but we, we have

00:31:20.920 to stop playing politics. You can play politics with, with anything you want, just leave the elections

00:31:26.060 sacrosanct. Yep. And you know, the old Stalin quote, you know, vote, vote as much as you,

00:31:34.100 you want, as long as I get to decide who counts the votes. And that's worked for a very long time.

00:31:41.440 I want to turn as we wrap up here, uh, to just simply what we should expect, uh, come November.

00:31:50.380 The left is continuing its abuse. The right is continuing its neglect and indifference and

00:31:56.480 laziness. Uh, it is, it is time for us to get, get straight on what has to be done. Um, I do want

00:32:05.160 to, which States, I guess I'm going to ask this in a positive manner, which States will we see the

00:32:10.420 greatest improvement in electoral, uh, uh, security? Um, there is really good legislation moving forward

00:32:18.120 in, in, uh, what's been passed in Texas. It's moving forward in Arizona, in Pennsylvania, um, in,

00:32:25.640 in Wisconsin. I'm not sure if they'll get it passed, but, but they're trying, um,

00:32:31.540 um, in Georgia, they've, they've, they've made some, some good strides. Um, there, you know,

00:32:39.020 there, there's some in Missouri had just did some good stuff in legislation or removal of drop boxes.

00:32:43.100 Uh, so, so there are some improvements, but I think that the, the, the difference that will be made in

00:32:49.900 2022 is for Americans to get out and hold the line in their local elections and, and just do what you can,

00:32:56.700 um, um, in the situation that exists. If there are drop boxes, they need to have surveillance roles

00:33:03.140 need to be known for what they are, um, in terms of, uh, the level of inaccuracy. It just needs to be

00:33:09.560 made transparent. And, um, and then we just, we can't lift our heads up. We have to go straight into

00:33:15.720 2024, uh, continuing to, to, to fight for improvements. Well, I, we encourage our audience,

00:33:24.560 everybody in this audience, always to be involved at the local level, to be full participants in

00:33:31.160 whether it's a zoning board or the city, uh, city council meeting, uh, or your school board, uh,

00:33:37.460 whichever, whichever you like, uh, but get into it and, uh, be sure that you're available to,

00:33:43.240 to work on election day and election night as in some cases, election season, because your voice

00:33:50.420 and your eyes are needed, uh, to watch over that process at the local level, uh, and everybody

00:33:56.840 can make a huge contribution, uh, to the, uh, to the outcome. Uh, we always Catherine give our guests

00:34:05.500 the last, uh, the last word and, uh, you get the last word here. Um, I think my last word for today

00:34:14.300 is that while I know what we're bringing forward and, and, and so many other things that, that,

00:34:21.760 you know, hit the airwaves, hit the headlines seem overwhelming. This country is worth fighting

00:34:27.060 and worth working for, worth working for, and worth working with your fellow countrymen. So, um,

00:34:33.720 I'm very heartened and I hope that all your listeners will be too. It's, it's tough, but it is worth doing.

00:34:38.580 Well said. And Catherine, uh, thanks so much for all you're doing. You're living, uh, you're living

00:34:46.340 your counsel to the rest of us. And we appreciate all of you and true. The vote has done and will

00:34:52.040 continue to do. Uh, you've been at this for, for many a year before I know at least, uh, the last,

00:34:58.580 uh, what, 12, 13 years. Yeah, that's right. Catherine, thanks so much for being here

00:35:03.580 on the great American show. We really appreciate it for having me. Thank you for having me.

00:35:08.580 Catherine Engelbrecht, true, the vote. Thanks everybody for joining us here today with us

00:35:15.040 tomorrow. We'll be John Solomon, the editor of just the news. We'll be bringing you right up to

00:35:20.840 date on the John Durham investigation and the trial now underway in Washington in which Durham

00:35:27.200 prosecutors charged Democrat attorney, Michael Sussman with lying to the FBI and in playing a key

00:35:34.380 role in the Russia collusion disinformation campaign created by the Clinton campaign

00:35:40.900 apparatus to attack president Donald Trump and which gave rise to the special counsel investigation

00:35:47.860 of president Trump. That's here tomorrow on the great America show till then. God bless you

00:35:54.500 and God bless America.

00:35:56.280 God bless America.

The Great America Show - May 19, 2022

PEOPLE INVOLVED IN ELECTION FRAUD ARE MEMBERS OF A CRIMINAL SYNDICATE

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