The Great America Show - POLLSTER SAYS BIDEN COLLAPSE IN POLLS WORSENS

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00:01:01.960 And we turn first to the latest on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:01:06.380 And all Ukraine is now, of course, a war zone.

00:01:10.360 Every city a battlefield.

00:01:12.680 Putin has thrown more of his troops into the invasion.

00:01:16.020 He's ordered more missiles, rockets, and bombs directed to strategic targets in the attacks.

00:01:22.040 And in Kiev, the Russians warned citizens to leave, and then immediately began devastating attacks

00:01:29.000 that, if sustained, would level much of the city that has already been under siege for almost a week.

00:01:36.360 Vladimir Zelensky spoke to the European Parliament and asked for their urgent assistance

00:01:42.220 as a 40-mile-long convoy of tanks and trucks loaded with Russian troops, rolls slowly toward Kiev.

00:01:50.180 That slow and halting pace of the convoy has led some U.S. military analysts to speculate

00:01:56.920 that the Russians are running out of fuel and food.

00:02:01.660 Zelensky and many of his military analysts say that the next 48 hours could determine Ukraine's fate.

00:02:07.880 Zelensky asked the Europeans, what difference, though, does it make to save for 80 years

00:02:13.840 that we will never forget and then stand silent when bombs are falling on the site

00:02:19.340 where Nazis massacred tens of thousands of Jews in World War II?

00:02:26.120 Zelensky, of course, is right.

00:02:28.140 These are dark and critical hours in Ukraine.

00:02:32.200 Meanwhile, the Biden administration is both absent and silent.

00:02:35.900 No one seems to know why the White House has receded from the Ukraine crisis,

00:02:41.560 but the European Union has filled the leadership vacuum that has left

00:02:45.800 and has organized a broad response of military aid and humanitarian assistance,

00:02:51.460 although it's unclear whether that desperately needed support will arrive in time for the Ukrainians.

00:02:58.060 International crises usually bolster presidential ratings, boost a president's approval ratings,

00:03:04.000 but not for this president, not for President Biden as he prepares to give his State of the Union speech.

00:03:11.600 Already, Biden's politics of the moment are excruciatingly painful and for the entire Democratic Party.

00:03:19.940 From the Afghan withdrawal disaster on, the Biden White House has made one calamitous mistake after another,

00:03:27.480 and his polling has plunged to historic levels.

00:03:31.780 The McLaughlin National Monthly Poll has been released, and the headline on that poll is,

00:03:36.760 quote,

00:03:37.540 Joe Biden can't even wag the dog, end quote,

00:03:42.580 referencing the usual public suspicion that a president creates national security threats whenever he gets unpopular,

00:03:50.560 particularly in an election year.

00:03:52.520 Joining us now on The Great America Show is leading Republican strategist and pollster,

00:03:58.580 the McLaughlin Group's John McLaughlin.

00:04:01.260 John, good to have you with us here on The Great America Show.

00:04:04.940 John, I've watched a lot of approval numbers over my career.

00:04:08.740 I've never seen a president drop this far, this broadly.

00:04:13.340 This looks like an entire collapse for this president.

00:04:16.660 Your thoughts?

00:04:17.120 I absolutely agree.

00:04:19.980 And the last time we spoke, we were talking about his numbers were cracking up,

00:04:24.840 where basically President Biden's numbers were imploding within his Democratic base,

00:04:34.380 where 22 percent of the voters in our surveys that we released just last Friday,

00:04:39.380 we put out a survey where 22 percent of the Biden 2020 voters disapproved of the job he's doing.

00:04:47.000 And when you think about it, he had, you know, he had a where you're dealing with the war issue,

00:04:53.680 where the time when people tend to rally around the president,

00:04:56.820 he's not improved his numbers where his job approval is only 41 percent.

00:05:01.940 The disapproval is 57 percent among all voters.

00:05:04.680 And now you have other polls like the Washington Post.

00:05:08.060 ABC says it's only 37 percent.

00:05:10.460 Quinnipiac, which favors Democrats, only 37 percent.

00:05:14.200 So the independents they're finding in their surveys are really upset at the president

00:05:19.400 because it's everything from inflation, the border, a national crime wave.

00:05:24.360 And now you have Putin invading neighboring countries,

00:05:29.540 and there's nothing this president can do to deter that.

00:05:32.560 So our friend Donald Trump looks really good in retrospect to a lot of voters right now.

00:05:38.820 Yeah, I noticed in your polling that he is still just as strong as he can be.

00:05:43.860 I don't know if it's, you know, how correlated that is to President Biden's awful numbers,

00:05:50.460 but it seems to me that the president numbers, irrespective of what was had,

00:05:54.580 what's been happening to Biden, has been strong and is he looks even stronger to me.

00:06:00.720 Is that is that accurate?

00:06:02.760 That's true.

00:06:03.440 With President Trump, 66 percent of the of the Republican primary voters want to see him run again.

00:06:09.680 If he were to run again, they vote from 80 percent to 16.

00:06:13.640 In a Republican field of 14 potential candidates, Donald Trump gets 54 percent of the vote.

00:06:19.360 The second closest candidate nationally is DeSantis at 12 percent and Mike Pence at eight percent.

00:06:25.200 So there's real buyer's remorse about President Trump not being the president right now.

00:06:30.320 And he would beat Biden 48, 45.

00:06:32.920 He would beat Kamala Harris 49, 50 to 43.

00:06:36.200 And Hillary Clinton, supposedly the savior of these Democrats, he would beat her 50 to 43.

00:06:42.160 And when you're looking at those numbers, he's winning independents, for example, against Hillary Clinton, 53 to 34.

00:06:49.880 Twenty two percent of the African-American vote goes for President Trump and 49 percent of the Hispanics to only 43 for Clinton.

00:06:57.940 So he's winning the Hispanic vote, getting a quarter of the black vote.

00:07:01.980 He's winning independents overwhelmingly.

00:07:06.200 So when you look at the actual people that if they approve of Joe Biden, sure, Trump only gets 10 percent, but that's only four to 10 voters.

00:07:16.280 Among the ones that disapprove of Biden, Trump wins 80 to 15.

00:07:20.100 So Joe Biden's implosion on a host of foreign policy issues, domestic issues, it's saying, leaving people saying there's real buyer's remorse.

00:07:31.260 We wish Donald Trump was president again.

00:07:33.540 And it's only reinforcing Trump's base.

00:07:37.120 And the more they attack him, the more they go after him.

00:07:40.360 Donald Trump looks very good these days.

00:07:42.500 It is curious to me, though, given the strength of the of the president in all of this polling, President Trump, that the Republican rhinos, as they are want to be rhinos in name only, it's it's it's stunning to me that they cannot understand that to function, this party has to follow Donald Trump right now.

00:08:09.560 I don't know what the future holds, but right now it is the party of Trump.

00:08:14.460 Why is that so difficult for them to understand, at least strategically, if not ideologically?

00:08:21.580 Well, it's because, you know, you have the workers now run the country club, and that's got them very upset because it's like if you watch the if you watch if you watch that was that old movie Caddyshack.

00:08:36.760 But Ted Baxter plays that candidate, Judge Smales, who runs the country and all of a sudden the Caddyshack are running the country club. 0.94

00:08:43.840 That's what Donald Trump did.

00:08:45.180 He turned the Republican Party into a party of working Americans against, you know, the swamp and the elites.

00:08:53.380 And and really, when you think about it, the Democrats have become the party of the big tech elites and the, you know, the wine and cheese liberals.

00:09:03.660 And they're mixing it up with the socialists.

00:09:06.160 But the working people in America, in the heartland and sunbelt of America, they respect Donald Trump because when he was president, you had work fair.

00:09:16.500 You know, if you wanted something that was temporary and you needed help, you worked for it.

00:09:20.580 You got tax cuts so people could work.

00:09:23.880 And now you've got, you know, a Democrat Party who is talking about giving people money who don't work, giving our taxpayer dollars to illegal immigrants, giving, you know, free health care, free college to people that that, you know, basically don't have to work for it. 0.51

00:09:40.000 And that's that's the function of socialism.

00:09:42.560 And two thirds of the voters in this poll that we took end of February disagree with the fact they don't they don't they agree that big government socialism doesn't work.

00:09:52.660 So, yeah, I love I love, John, this I love this Biden Marxism, socialism, whatever you want to call it, where he gives four hundred and fifty thousand dollars to an immigrant family who crossed into the country illegally.

00:10:08.400 But they'll only give fifty thousand dollars to a young man or woman who wants to volunteer for the military to serve the United States of America.

00:10:16.900 I mean, this is pretty rough stuff, but it does set the tone, doesn't it?

00:10:22.140 Right. And what's what's scary about the survey is when we ask, we've been tracking and these numbers are on our Web site at McLaughlin online dot com.

00:10:30.740 When we've been asking them about the state of the economy, 57 percent of the voters told us we're in recession right now.

00:10:38.820 And we when we asked if it's getting better or worse, 63 percent said it's getting worse, only 31 better.

00:10:46.520 And it's a different kind of recession where, you know, back when Obama was president or the Democrats were running things, people, businesses were closing, we're losing jobs.

00:10:57.700 Now it's about inflation. Now it's about, hey, the price of meat is doubled.

00:11:01.660 The price of gas has gone from less than two dollars a gallon to it's headed for four or five dollars a gallon.

00:11:07.820 So people are seeing this hidden Biden tax and inflation where the national debt has gone from 21 trillion to 30 trillion in a year means our standard of living is declining.

00:11:19.980 And people are feeling that, you know, this is the high tech Biden recession that their social spending is causing.

00:11:27.000 Yeah, it's it's very abstract to talk to voters about 30 trillion dollars in national debt or nine trillion dollars sitting on the the balance sheet of the Fed.

00:11:38.580 But when you start talking about a citizen, a consumer having to shove 20 dollar bills into his or her gas tank, it gets real in a big hurry.

00:11:50.640 And that's what that's exactly what is happening.

00:11:53.880 Let me you know, I got a kick out of your headline on the Newsmax article.

00:12:00.040 McLaughlin poll. Joe Biden can't even wag the dog.

00:12:04.880 A great headline, John.

00:12:06.760 And I just have to say, if he can't wag the dog, what in heck can he wag to to emerge from this malaise?

00:12:16.360 Well, I think, first of all, I think a lot of people are afraid that, you know, I mean, you saw Joe Biden.

00:12:24.420 He offered the Linsky, the president of Ukraine, you know, sanctuary and a ride out of Ukraine. 0.80

00:12:31.820 And Linsky accurately thought that, well, should I go with the guy who surrendered Afghanistan and take a risk with him?

00:12:40.100 No, I'm not leaving the country and go with Biden because that didn't go well.

00:12:46.380 And and you wonder about the corruption with Biden where, you know, his his his son Hunter and his family's, you know, business where they were making money off Russian oligarchs, Ukrainian oligarchs, the Chinese.

00:13:00.680 You wonder about, you know, the corruption where, you know, he won't he won't really help Ukraine with arms and weapons that to defend themselves, won't give them planes.

00:13:13.060 But on the other hand, he's willing to say, I'll I'll take you out of the country, you know, so that, you know, the Ukrainian government will lose their leader so that there'll be a collapse.

00:13:24.620 And that's what happened in Afghanistan. And you you have to wonder, it's like, shouldn't Congress be looking into the Biden family corruption?

00:13:34.380 I mean, I mean, there could be real ties here where we don't realize it, but they could be taking instructions from Putin for all we know or or or Z.

00:13:44.520 So it's like this is a serious weakness and a serious corruption level here that the American voters, you know, deserve to have answered.

00:13:51.960 So I think based on these poll numbers, I think American voters are getting the idea that there's a little more to this call of Biden than they wanted to acknowledge in 2020, because it's it's rather circular, isn't it?

00:14:08.200 And suddenly, suddenly, Putin and Xi Jinping are strategic partners.

00:14:14.420 Suddenly, Ukraine, which was the playground of the Clintons and the Obamas and the Bidens is under attack.

00:14:24.440 And the first thing he does is revert to, as you correctly say, his Afghans template that works so well for him and for America.

00:14:33.280 He wants to take Zelensky out and Zelensky has the judgment to say, I'd rather be sitting here in the middle of mortal combat rather than be under the wing of Joe Biden and all of his pals in America.

00:14:50.140 It's quite a statement.

00:14:52.380 Yes.

00:14:52.740 And it's really scary for America.

00:14:54.200 And by the way, in the same survey we did, and this is a thousand likely voters across the country, and it's modeled after the 2020 election, we asked them feelings about the Iran nuclear deal, because that's getting very little attention right now.

00:15:10.200 And the Biden administration is basically negotiating with the Iranians to go back into the same deal where they were going to develop a bomb or at least a nuclear weapon somehow.

00:15:22.300 And when you ask these voters, do you trust Joe Biden to negotiate a deal with Iran, 35% say they do, but 52% don't.

00:15:35.680 And when you ask them, what's the bigger threat, the war in Ukraine, 21% agree with that.

00:15:42.920 But 63% say in a nuclear Iran is a bigger threat. 0.58

00:15:47.260 And they also think that Iran is the greatest threat to the United States, 71%.

00:15:53.720 And you've got 70% of the voters.

00:15:58.320 If the Democrats go back into the Iran deal that would allow them to get nuclear weapons, 70% of all voters would be less likely to vote for them.

00:16:06.420 So, you know, after whatever's going on in Ukraine and Russia right now, underneath it all, we've got a big concern about what Joe Biden is doing with Iran, that they'll go back to the deal that Trump correctly threw out, put sanctions on them, stop them from getting a nuclear weapon. 0.64

00:16:28.620 But unfortunately, it may only be temporary because Joe Biden's going to go back to the same bad deal that's brought them to the brink of being able to develop a nuclear weapon.

00:16:39.400 I mean, it's just, these are scary times.

00:16:42.940 Scary times.

00:16:44.360 And propitiously, we have a State of the Union address from Joe Biden.

00:16:48.800 I assume that it will, as is tradition, come from the Capitol, not the basement in Delaware.

00:16:57.780 But what do you expect of Joe Biden in tonight's State of the Union?

00:17:02.420 Because anything resembling candor will scare the hell out of most Americans.

00:17:08.120 Well, you know, I mean, you wonder if he's gotten the message yet, like at some point, Bill Clinton, after the 94 election, got the message where he said in the State of the Union after that was the year of big government's over.

00:17:23.340 And he reversed on a lot of policies, whether it was passing a capital gains tax cut, he worked with Newt Gingrich to balance the budget.

00:17:29.920 He, you know, he actually tried to make himself more of a moderate and triangulate when, I'm sure, Hillary Clinton and the other liberals in the White House were objecting and wanted to go far to the left.

00:17:47.120 Here, Joe Biden, I don't see a break.

00:17:49.400 I don't see anybody saying, we've got to stop this.

00:17:52.440 And, you know, they've been they've been telegraphing ahead of time that they're going to have more spending programs.

00:18:00.040 Well, that's just going to fuel inflation.

00:18:02.400 And and and they're talking about, you know, they're not talking about securing the border.

00:18:08.640 They're not talking about, you know, doing anything with crime.

00:18:13.620 I mean, we have crime in our cities across the country.

00:18:16.040 And you wonder, you know, what he might say or not say that on the, you know, Ukraine, Russia war or Iran that, you know, our enemies are going to be listening.

00:18:29.640 And you really got to realize that when he surrendered Afghanistan last August, it gave a signal to the rest of the world in terms of our enemies that they could test this president.

00:18:42.860 And they're probably going for as much as they can before before the Republicans take over Congress and Donald Trump gets reelected.

00:18:50.320 Well, I have to think there are two things going on right now in the mind of Xi Jinping.

00:18:59.240 One is, what was I thinking when I selected Vladimir Putin as my strategic global partner?

00:19:06.680 And two, thinking, well, as bad as things are for Putin right now and in Ukraine and Europe, what is the opportunity for me in Taiwan?

00:19:19.400 But we have a president who is not easily focused.

00:19:25.720 I'll put it that way. 0.88

00:19:27.600 And all sorts of things flow from his obvious weakness, his feeble mindedness, his absolutely absurd agenda. 0.61

00:19:40.060 Geopolitically, he is an invitation to our enemies, is he not?

00:19:44.260 Yeah, and 61 percent of all voters in the United States think he should be, you know, have it take a cognitive test and release it publicly.

00:19:53.540 And the media is blacking out that issue, but the voters have still gotten it.

00:19:58.860 So when he speaks to probably a relatively empty chamber tonight, because I don't think they're allowing the Congress to meet because of the mask and whatever mandates they've got.

00:20:12.800 So there's only going to be so many people.

00:20:15.200 Yeah, John, they lifted that mandate just in time for the State of the Union.

00:20:19.140 Oh, did they?

00:20:20.100 They figured that out.

00:20:21.680 Okay.

00:20:22.100 They've got that right.

00:20:23.280 They triangulate on that one.

00:20:25.860 Yeah.

00:20:26.180 So that was good because they're going to need, the media is going to need a lot of audience shots of loyal Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, which voters will hate. 1.00

00:20:36.820 Uh, because almost six out of 10 voters don't like her, but they'll need a lot of cutaway shots like that because if, if his teleprompter doesn't have a good night, Joe Biden won't have a good night. 0.97

00:20:47.840 And, uh, the fortunate thing for him is it may be really low, uh, ratings for them.

00:20:54.420 And so, uh, I mean, that's the best, if I was a, if I was a Biden operative, I'd be hoping for low ratings because the more voters see him, six out of 10 Americans think that this president, you know, doesn't have it.

00:21:07.360 So they, they want him tested and they want to see, you know, they want to know what the results of his public health tracker are.

00:21:13.720 Well, talking with, uh, with Congressman, Dr. Ronny Jackson, uh, just the other day, uh, he has been calling for a cognitive test.

00:21:23.980 Uh, of this president for a very long time, the white house just simply rejects it out of hand, but people forget that was raised about president Trump and Dr.

00:21:35.100 Jackson immediately gave him a cognitive test, the standard cog, uh, cognitive test, which he passed with flying colors.

00:21:43.660 These, these folks in this white house won't go near their president with a cognitive test because they know, already know the answers.

00:21:50.920 And by the way, uh, Dr. Jackson was the white house physician, uh, to president George W. Bush, uh, to, uh, Barack Obama, as well as, uh, uh, Donald Trump.

00:22:03.800 So he knows whereof he speaks your thoughts.

00:22:06.700 No, I think, I think Congressman Jackson, Ronnie Jackson, Harold Jackson, I mean, he's, he's, he's, he's an honest person and, uh, he did a very good job for president Trump and his duties at the white house.

00:22:19.900 Now he's doing a great job in Congress and he's, he, he, he's telling it like it is.

00:22:26.240 And you've got a mainstream media blackout because they're afraid of the answer.

00:22:31.080 So they should be calling for it.

00:22:33.100 And you know, the Democrats, I mean, that that's, they have control of this president and the big government socialists are running the white house.

00:22:41.720 And, uh, the American people, we're, we're just waiting for an election.

00:22:46.200 It can't happen soon enough.

00:22:48.420 Absolutely.

00:22:49.480 Uh, I just wanted to take a look here quickly.

00:22:52.660 Uh, McLaughlin and associates, uh, CPAC convention poll of the registrants, the issues most important to those conservatives, election integrity, immigration, the border wall, constitutional rights, inflation, cost of living, uh,

00:23:07.720 uh, than national security and foreign policy.

00:23:10.740 Uh, there's not anything there for, uh, CRT, uh, for ESG, uh, or for any, uh, of those issues that preoccupy even the minds of our military leaders in the Pentagon.

00:23:25.620 Uh, it is really quite a disconnect in the body politic, isn't it?

00:23:30.840 Right.

00:23:31.500 And that CPAC, that's, you know, that CPAC convention of activists, they, they, you know, you have,

00:23:37.800 almost all of them approved the job that president Trump did.

00:23:41.240 I mean, his numbers are, when you think about the base, they're stronger than Ronald Reagan's was.

00:23:45.520 And I, you know, I used to work for Arthur Ficklestein, who was one of the pollsters for Reagan.

00:23:50.540 So those of us who volunteered for Reagan's campaign in 76 that were elated when he got elected in a landslide in 1980, um, you know, we remember how strong Reagan was.

00:24:03.500 President Trump's even stronger now.

00:24:05.540 And when you look at the continued support he gets from the activists in Florida, uh, or Texas last year, it was even better.

00:24:14.060 And, uh, you know, he's, he's people, the, the activists, the mainstream body of America, the moderates, the independents, they want to see president Trump, uh, elected again, because Biden is just failing spectacularly.

00:24:28.200 And the country's paying a price for the polling result, but I just fascinates me is that there is sufficient awakening, uh, not wokeness awakening, uh, to the reality.

00:24:44.340 And when asked the question, would Vladimir Putin have attacked and invaded Ukraine, were president Trump still in office over 60% in poll after poll says they say, absolutely not.

00:24:59.460 That's an honest and candid answer from people who know what we have in the white house and what we lost when, uh, after the 2020 election, you're, you're thinking on it.

00:25:11.320 Um, yeah, those, uh, I, I saw those numbers in the Rasmussen report survey and they track closely with ours.

00:25:18.060 And, uh, uh, when you're looking at that, you know, it's like some people may not like Donald Trump style.

00:25:24.220 They may not like a comment here or there, but they respected him and they knew our enemies feared him.

00:25:31.040 Um, and I mean, president Trump, you know, was not kidding where I think he told reporters that, uh, um, cause I saw him before the CPAC meeting.

00:25:40.220 I was down in Florida and I saw president Trump and when we met and, uh, you know, Putin had, you know, hinted about invading, invading, uh, Ukraine before, as he did when Barack Obama was president, they took Crimea.

00:25:53.040 He, he, he, he hinted about that again.

00:25:55.400 And I think president Trump bluntly told him, if you do that, we'll bomb Moscow.

00:25:59.540 And, uh, you know, no one doubted, uh, president Trump's ability or, or determination to keep, uh, the world of peace and the United States safe.

00:26:10.660 And when you're, whether you were general Soleimani with Iran or you were, uh, uh, Assad in Syria, what, when Trump was having dinner with G, you know, they, they were using chemical weapons against civilians.

00:26:25.300 And president Trump took action and knocked out their, you know, their ability to do it by knocking out the air force with some missiles.

00:26:32.900 And, uh, you know, you're better off that they respect you and fear you than they like you because these are dangerous people and they don't have a pollster.

00:26:43.140 They basically probably shot their pollsters if they didn't like the results in some of these, you know, countries, whether it's Russia or China, you're not allowed to poll there.

00:26:51.280 So, uh, you know, so president Trump, you know, he, he, he's a man of his word.

00:26:56.700 He's a businessman.

00:26:57.360 He's not like a typical politician or some diplomat.

00:27:01.140 He's going to tell, he's going to tell you where he's standing, what he thinks.

00:27:04.000 And, uh, America is better off for it.

00:27:06.580 So, and, and, and, and he is a great American.

00:27:11.040 You know, you're talking about the, the, the caddies taking over the, the golf, uh, the country club in Caddyshack.

00:27:20.200 It's, it's sort of a, it's an interesting metaphor because here's a man in Donald Trump who owns more golf courses and prestigious courses than any man in America.

00:27:30.300 In which he wants the caddies, uh, to be well-paid, well-respected, uh, and, uh, you know, run, run that country club, uh, metaphorically.

00:27:41.160 Uh, it's, it's really interesting that that man, that billionaire can have that connection and that relationship with, uh, the, the forgotten American working man and woman in this country, our middle class.

00:27:54.400 It's, it's a, it's a wonderful thing to behold.

00:27:57.120 And the last, I think the last relationship anyone would have expected politically, don't you think?

00:28:04.060 Um, yes.

00:28:04.960 But if you, if you know Donald Trump and I've known him for a while, his background was that of, he's from Queens.

00:28:11.040 He didn't grow up in Manhattan.

00:28:12.360 He grew up in the outer borough and he, you know, he, he, uh, uh, yeah, he went to Penn, but before that he went to Fordham.

00:28:19.420 Um, and, and so he's, he's got this background where on this construction sites, he'll ask the workers, what they think he'll ask, you know, people that are just average people, how they're doing, how what's going on with them.

00:28:33.560 And, and even in his own clubs, the people that work for him, you know, he'll be first ones to say, what do you think about this?

00:28:39.480 What do you think about that?

00:28:40.300 So he's in touch, you know, he doesn't believe in the scientific polls as much in the fancy polling, as much as there's a gut feel and him talking to real people.

00:28:49.160 And when he's in touch with people, that's, that's when he's at his best.

00:28:52.300 And you can see that as rallies when the people come there and basically, um, he's, he's what I called the blue collar billionaire, where we, we all knew he was a billionaire and we all knew he was, uh, uh, had done very well in a successful life, but he was our guy.

00:29:08.740 And so, you know, people respected him for that.

00:29:11.960 And they knew he has this, he has this affinity and care for people that work for a living.

00:29:16.200 And, uh, he, you know, he's been successful.

00:29:18.580 He's taken care of people at work and, uh, you know, it's, it would be good to have that back in the white house and inside the Potomac again, but the establishment doesn't seem to like that. 0.66

00:29:29.300 Well, I can, uh, all I will say, you know, all I can say to that is thank God this president.

00:29:34.440 Uh, isn't one of those who would have walked away, uh, sulk, uh, and, uh, retired from the arena instead 2020 is so infuriated him, so offended him, uh, and thank God, uh, a hundred million Americans as well, uh, that he is now so essential to, to American politics.

00:29:59.520 And to the good of this country, uh, as he is fighting, uh, to come back in 2022 with, uh, taking the house and the Senate and in 2024, uh, taking back the white house.

00:30:12.400 And it's a, it's a long journey, I know, but it's a journey that we also know, uh, Donald Trump makes an ideal leader, uh, for us to, uh, to make that journey safely and securely and successfully.

00:30:25.180 I want to ask you, uh, about the midterms, of course, uh, we have 30, what is it?

00:30:30.740 34 Senate seats up, uh, 20 GOP, 14 dim, uh, today, the Texas primary is wide open.

00:30:39.180 It's, it begins, uh, and with all of these seats that are up, all of these retirements, dims, 31 dims retiring from the house, uh, 16 GOPers retiring as well.

00:30:52.760 But that 31 dims is the most, uh, in decades, uh, is the Republican party ready to have a wave election, a, uh, to, to take, uh, both the house and the Senate back?

00:31:06.500 Well, well, I think it's a long way to go.

00:31:11.060 And, uh, I think that, you know, president Trump and his supporters intend to keep the Republican party on track, uh, because they're, they're active in these primaries.

00:31:22.340 They're supporting their candidates.

00:31:23.840 There's more people that are running that to make America great candidates.

00:31:27.420 Last week I was down.

00:31:28.460 The reason I was in Florida was to be at the, uh, make America great, uh, forum for their candidates at, uh, Mar-a-Lago and, uh, you know, nationally we're ahead in the poll that we put out Friday.

00:31:39.980 The Republicans are ahead 47, 45 and, uh, it closed a little bit.

00:31:44.300 It was so close.

00:31:46.080 Yeah.

00:31:46.860 But the undecided voters, the ones who are undecided, seven out of 10 of them think the country's on the wrong track.

00:31:53.760 And, and two to one, they disapprove the job that Biden's doing.

00:31:57.000 So it's, so it's a hidden vote for the Republicans.

00:31:59.320 So John, let me ask you this.

00:32:01.180 Nominate the right candidates and play offense.

00:32:03.560 Yeah.

00:32:03.840 Why is it so close?

00:32:05.480 This, uh, that 2%.

00:32:07.420 Why, why are Biden and Trump, uh, so close, uh, in your polling?

00:32:14.220 Well, when you think, well, we still have a long way to go.

00:32:17.340 And you, when you think about, there's a lot of media censorship and they, they cover things like the January

00:32:23.480 six, uh, you know, protests and they, they cover things like, oh, the, you know, the attorney general

00:32:30.980 in New York's investigating Donald Trump, et cetera.

00:32:33.800 But when you peak, when you look at the people that are covering the real issues in the elections,

00:32:38.200 uh, just look at Virginia last year where the Republicans won the governor's race in a state

00:32:43.440 that Biden won by 10 points.

00:32:44.820 Look at Nassau County, New York, where Biden had won by 10 points, but they ran a Democrat who supported,

00:32:52.420 who helped write the law and cast this bail.

00:32:54.180 And the Republicans, you know, won the district attorney's race race by almost 20 points.

00:32:59.360 And then they took it, they took out a popular county executive, uh, with Bruce Blakeman winning that race.

00:33:05.000 And now I, today I was at the convention for the Republicans in New York and Lee Zeldin won

00:33:11.680 the convention with 85% of the vote.

00:33:14.040 And he's a committed Donald Trump supporter.

00:33:17.420 And, you know, when you look at New York state, two thirds, almost two thirds of the voters think

00:33:23.900 the state's had it on the wrong track.

00:33:25.740 The, the incumbent governor hasn't changed the cast this bail law.

00:33:29.500 Uh, well, she's not incumbent, she's unelected, but she took over after Cuomo.

00:33:33.400 But when you look at the corruption in New York, uh, and, and also the, uh, the crime in New York

00:33:40.640 and the, the, the misspending, I mean, Lee Zeldin has a great chance to, to win in, in New York

00:33:46.660 and, you know, win the state that Joe Biden carried and send a message because, uh, even the bluest parts

00:33:54.600 of the country, uh, whether they're a democratic County, uh, that's mostly Hispanic on the Texas 0.59

00:34:00.720 border with Mexico or, uh, places like California.

00:34:04.320 I think you're going to see upsets across the country where the Democrats still have time

00:34:09.460 between now and November to change course, but they're not changing course.

00:34:13.080 The AOCs of the world are doubling down. 0.99

00:34:16.040 I mean, the Democrats, socialists of America have, have announced that the Russia Ukraine

00:34:22.060 war is due to American imperialism.

00:34:24.340 I mean, are they serious?

00:34:26.300 I mean, AOC, uh, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez belongs to that group.

00:34:31.320 They think it was American imperialism that caused this war.

00:34:34.620 I mean, you have to be kidding me.

00:34:36.700 And then the vast majority of Americans disagree with this and we will, we will, we're just

00:34:41.100 waiting for the elections to vote.

00:34:42.700 And I think you'll see today in Texas, in the primaries, Trump candidates will win and

00:34:47.420 Trump candidates will go on and win in November.

00:34:49.520 Yeah, I, I, that's reassuring because as you might infer from what I'm, the way I'm asking 0.99

00:34:55.860 these questions, I want a damn landslide come November, uh, for the Republicans. 0.97

00:35:00.240 I, I don't want anything less than a landslide. 0.98

00:35:03.600 Uh, I want no doubt in anyone's mind what just hit them.

00:35:07.260 Uh, and I would love to see this country come together.

00:35:10.780 Uh, those 34 Senate seats really bother me a lot though.

00:35:14.460 Uh, because with Mitch McConnell there, uh, it's, it doesn't look strong to me because

00:35:22.220 this is, as, as you're saying, you're pulling reflects the public wants Donald Trump, uh,

00:35:30.080 vote, uh, candidates and not Mitch McConnell candidates.

00:35:34.800 And in the Senate, there are Mitch McConnell candidates for the GOP, aren't they?

00:35:38.960 Well, that's what you, well, that's why you have primaries.

00:35:42.120 And when you look at, uh, Herschel Walker in Georgia, he's slightly ahead over the Democrat

00:35:47.580 Warnock, but Herschel Walker, he's going to have a token primary and he'll end up winning

00:35:52.280 because he's Donald Trump's candidate.

00:35:54.460 Um, I think you'll see.

00:35:55.580 And a great guy.

00:35:56.760 He's a great guy.

00:35:57.720 Yeah.

00:35:58.500 Yes.

00:35:59.040 And, and you've got Adam Laxalt to Trump, you know, support, uh, uh, candidate, support

00:36:05.260 candidate.

00:36:05.680 He's, he's got a very good shot at winning in Nevada.

00:36:08.620 I think you're going to see, uh, uh, Republican, like I'm working with Jim Layman, who's very

00:36:13.200 strong on, uh, securing the border and immigration issues.

00:36:16.920 And he's an airborne cold war airborne, uh, veteran.

00:36:21.340 He's, he's, he's in Arizona running for Senate.

00:36:23.680 I think, I think we can win in New Hampshire.

00:36:26.640 Um, so, and then we might even have some surprises like Leora Levy winning in Connecticut

00:36:31.540 against Blumenthal because people know he lied about Vietnam.

00:36:35.180 Let alone other issues.

00:36:36.860 Um, so, so I think we have a very good shot at turning around the Senate and I think the

00:36:42.800 primaries will play out and we'll, we'll see who the candidates are, but I think there

00:36:46.220 will be, uh, Donald Trump supported candidates and, uh, the people inside the beltway who won

00:36:52.460 power, they'll have to go along with us. 0.98

00:36:53.980 Otherwise they'll, they'll, they'll blow the elections.

00:36:56.440 And that's why, that's why when you say with generic vote, I think the voters are waiting

00:37:00.600 to see who the candidates are, what the primaries decide and, uh, you know, who, who, who agrees

00:37:07.540 with them on the issues.

00:37:08.540 Cause we know where the majority of Americans agree on immigration, crime, spending, national

00:37:14.800 security.

00:37:15.440 Um, that, you know, they, the, the majority of Americans agree on these issues and we just

00:37:22.020 got to nominate candidates that reflect that agreement.

00:37:25.200 Yeah, I, I think that's right.

00:37:27.040 And you use an expression that I thought I thought interesting because it brought back

00:37:31.800 to me 2010 and the tea party, uh, when you said if, uh, they want to hang onto power, they're

00:37:39.380 going to have to go along with these new vibrant Trump candidates who win.

00:37:46.300 I think there's also a high degree of residual doubt in the electorate, whether it, uh, as to

00:37:53.520 whether or not, if you, uh, whether or not changing leadership is possible and a very strong

00:38:00.680 suspicion that if you don't change leadership, if you don't get rid of McConnell, if you

00:38:04.600 don't get rid of McCarthy and their teams of rhinos, uh, that nothing will change.

00:38:10.700 How do you respond to that?

00:38:13.400 Well, I'm, I'm focused on, I'm focused on my, get my candidates through primaries and

00:38:18.300 get my candidates through November.

00:38:20.180 They'll decide who the leaders are after that.

00:38:22.940 So I, I think, uh, I, I think it's as far as right now goes, um, I don't want to, I

00:38:30.600 don't want to, I don't take anything for granted.

00:38:33.120 I don't start, you know, what I, I I'm like, you got to run the campaigns, you got to play

00:38:37.580 to win, you got to run on the issues after, and then on, on election day, we count the

00:38:42.740 votes and see who's won.

00:38:43.940 So, uh, I'm not, uh, um, you know, I'm not, I'm not right now, uh, focused on the inside

00:38:50.320 battles inside the beltway stuff in Washington yet.

00:38:52.880 I think, I think first of all, we got to get the right people into Congress, into the Senate

00:38:57.920 and then go from there.

00:39:00.020 So, and if they don't, well, I think, I think president Trump's doing a good job of picking

00:39:07.340 people to support so far.

00:39:08.860 So we'll see.

00:39:09.800 So, but, uh, generally I, I ended up working for a pro-Trump conservative.

00:39:14.640 So that's, that's the right, that's, I'm trying to do my job.

00:39:18.600 So we'll see.

00:39:19.260 You're doing, you're, you're doing the Lord's work then you're doing the Lord's work.

00:39:23.160 Yeah.

00:39:23.300 Uh, in that regard though, you and I both know we have a pragmatic sense, uh, to our

00:39:29.160 perspectives.

00:39:29.720 I think that we both share and that is fundraising often wins and with McConnell and with McCarthy

00:39:37.140 in charge of fundraising in both houses, how realistic is it that they can change, uh, leadership?

00:39:45.360 Well, I, well, I think, I think, you know, a lot of candidates are raising money from the

00:39:50.280 grassroots and, uh, and it turns into millions, if not tens of millions of dollars where,

00:39:55.300 you know, you're, you're seeing, you know, the average person willing to donate to campaigns

00:40:01.000 that we're not used to seeing.

00:40:02.080 And that's how Donald Trump, you know, won in 2016.

00:40:04.940 He wasn't getting the big, big inside party bundlers.

00:40:08.560 He, he, he ended up raising $270 million on the internet from people that knew they were

00:40:13.560 sending money to a billionaire, but he was, as I said, their blue collar billionaire.

00:40:17.420 So, you know, I, I think you're going to see the same thing this year where, whether it's

00:40:23.620 Herschel Walker and Georgia, or whether it's, uh, you know, whether it's, uh, uh, like I

00:40:28.560 said, Jim Lehman and Arizona or, uh, you know, other, other candidates where, um, they're

00:40:35.140 getting, they're getting support.

00:40:36.260 I mean, Lee Zeldin in New York, he came to the Republican convention today with 85% and he's,

00:40:42.700 there's other opponents in the race and might be a self funder in the race.

00:40:45.960 But Lee Zeldin has like over 30,000 donations to his campaign and he's raised $10 million.

00:40:51.860 So, um, you know, people, people realize that the country needs a change and they're willing

00:40:57.740 to invest in that change for candidates who support what they believe in.

00:41:03.200 Well, let's hope that we're going to see.

00:41:06.820 And I, as we conclude here, I want to ask you a question on the rhinos and the party.

00:41:11.020 I've asked a number of congressmen in the house, particularly, most especially, uh, what

00:41:17.760 is the ratio of, uh, rhinos to, uh, to conservative Republicans?

00:41:23.320 And the answer that seems to be most frequent is there is a cohort of about 50 at either side

00:41:29.980 of the spectrum, uh, 50 conservatives, 50 rhinos within the house.

00:41:36.700 Do you see that ratio changing and how important is it that there be, uh, a change in that ratio?

00:41:44.880 Well, I think it's going to change because first of all, you know, rhinos is the least

00:41:49.220 defensive term compared to those Republicans who say voted for impeachment.

00:41:54.140 And so when you look at a race that really matters, Wyoming, Liz Cheney's running for reelection 0.99

00:41:59.020 and, uh, Harriet Hageman's running against it, we got to make sure that Liz Cheney loses. 1.00

00:42:05.120 And in, uh, uh, Alaska, you've got, uh, Sarah Murkowski running. 0.99

00:42:10.880 So we've got to make sure that Kelly Chewbacca wins that race because I mean, it's, you know,

00:42:18.220 on one hand, when you look at that January 6th committee, you've got Kinzinger, who's not

00:42:22.080 going to run for reelection and Cheney, but then they wouldn't let Jim Jordan or, or Jim

00:42:27.660 Banks on those committees who are Republican support, uh, Trump supporters or name.

00:42:33.440 They wouldn't let Kevin McCarthy name Republicans to be on that committee.

00:42:38.840 So it's a kangaroo court.

00:42:40.340 It's unbelievable.

00:42:41.600 And the media doesn't cover that.

00:42:43.600 And it's like, so anybody who participates in the, in the phony, you know, impeachments

00:42:50.180 that they had in the persecution of Donald Trump should be gone.

00:42:53.760 I mean, absolutely.

00:42:55.100 You know, whether, whether they choose on their own not to run, but we got to make sure

00:42:59.320 we beat them in primaries because, um, you know, the, the, the, the, the house Republicans

00:43:06.100 that voted to impeach the president, you know, uh, Murkowski voted to impeach the president,

00:43:11.580 they got to be beat.

00:43:12.660 And because they did a disservice to the country and, you know, a lot of the, that impeachment

00:43:18.820 was based on, you know, the, the first impeachment was Russian collusion.

00:43:23.480 That's a total fraud that, that Durham's, uh, charges against, you know, people that participate

00:43:29.980 in that now and that investigation proving it was a total fraud.

00:43:33.760 And then, you know, January 6th, the, they, they impeached a private citizen and put them

00:43:40.380 on trial, uh, cause Donald Trump was out of office at that point.

00:43:44.080 And so, I mean, if, if we allow them to continue with that kind of, uh, uh, you know, political

00:43:50.980 persecution and mean spiritedness, um, they could go after anybody in the United States

00:43:56.080 and we'll lose, you know, the idea of justice and, and, and honesty and integrity in government

00:44:02.520 forever.

00:44:03.060 So, uh, I mean, there's high stakes here.

00:44:07.080 Well said as always, John McLaughlin, we thank you so much.

00:44:10.720 And, uh, and I, I just can't imagine, uh, anyone, uh, not paying attention to everything

00:44:18.640 that you just said when they go to the polls in November, uh, because it is, as you say,

00:44:23.640 absolutely critical.

00:44:25.340 John, we always give our guests the very last word here, uh, your concluding thoughts.

00:44:29.940 Well, I, I mean, it's a long way between now and November.

00:44:34.700 And I think the important thing is we have to make sure the Republicans don't snatch defeat

00:44:39.740 from the jaws of victory.

00:44:41.100 Got to go out there and work for good candidates to win primaries and then make sure they get

00:44:45.320 elected in November.

00:44:46.820 So, um, so for your listeners, uh, we're really just beginning.

00:44:51.120 It's just, you know, it's just March and the primaries are just starting and we got to

00:44:56.600 get the right people nominated.

00:44:57.860 And then we got to make sure they win in November.

00:45:00.180 There's still a lot of time for the Democrats to recover.

00:45:03.600 So we need to make sure they don't save America.

00:45:08.480 Amen.

00:45:09.360 Thank you so much, John.

00:45:10.940 Uh, we certainly do appreciate it.

00:45:13.360 Uh, and I look forward to our next conversation.

00:45:16.260 Thanks for all you do.

00:45:18.300 Uh, and, uh, God bless you, John McLaughlin of the McLaughlin group.

00:45:23.120 And I want to say to each and every one of you, thanks for being with us today.

00:45:27.760 Thank you for listening.

00:45:29.200 God bless you.

00:45:30.840 And God bless the United States of America.

00:45:34.920 Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.

00:45:38.080 Stay in the fight.

00:45:39.020 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

00:45:44.420 Uh, God bless you.

00:45:52.480 See you next time.

00:45:52.780 Please hold your hand.

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The Great America Show - March 02, 2022

POLLSTER SAYS BIDEN COLLAPSE IN POLLS WORSENS

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