PRESIDENT BIDEN THREATENS RELIGIOUS RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LIFE
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A year ago, the country was still trying to adjust to the new circumstance that President Trump would not be in office come January 20th, 2021. Now, here we are, a year later, and President Joe Biden is still in office.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America show.
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And today we'll be examining the state of the Biden presidency.
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His doctor says, don't worry, President Biden's health is just about perfect.
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No physical issues, no mental issues, fit as a fiddle, maybe not a stradivarius, but all good.
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His mind, a finely tuned instrument, no sign of dementia, Alzheimer's, or any other ailment
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that might explain the decisions he makes from time to time, the numerous walkabouts his mind
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seems to take, and the not so infrequent, utterly unintelligible remarks that leave everyone
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wondering about his health and the health of his doctor, who says there are no medical issues of
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any kind. How bad are things in the Biden version of Camelot? Apparently, the Biden staff can't stand
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the Vice President Harris staff, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of warmth and high regard between
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the president and vice president. No one seems to know what Harris actually does,
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and Biden seems to be in that camp, and definitely not happy with his vice president.
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And then, President Biden has taken 25 trips to his Delaware home. That's more than half the
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weeks he's been president. What in the world is he doing, for crying out loud? The latest polls are
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no comfort for President Biden. He's now at, are you ready, 36% approval in the Quinnipiac poll,
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and their trajectory isn't improving. President Biden, at least, can take some solace in that poll,
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which, while disastrous for him, is even worse for Kamala Harris. Her approval rating has fallen
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all the way down to 28%. No bueno. Awful. Bad and getting worse. And why such low numbers? Well,
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among other things, this is the administration that abandoned Americans and our allies in Afghanistan.
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This is the very same president who called a 17-year-old boy who had defended himself in the
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midst of a riot a white supremacist. President Biden did all but call for his lynching,
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while Kyle Rittenhouse was on trial, accused of murder. To take up all of this and all of the
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glories that make up the first 10 months or so of the Biden administration and presidency,
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we're joined by two of my very favorite people, Diamond and Silk. The always politically direct
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Diamond Hardaway and Silk Richardson join us. Great entertainers, great supporters of President Trump,
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great Americans. And may I say, ladies, great friends. Wonderful to have you on our inaugural
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tour of the Great America Show. Welcome. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Ludovic. Thank you for having us.
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And we're so honored to be here with you and to just hear your beautiful voice again. It's such,
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it's so amazing. Let me just say it like that. It's just so amazing. God bless.
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Oh, that's very nice of you. I love you guys. Let me start with what in the world happened. A year ago,
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the country was sort of licking its wounds, trying to adjust to a new circumstance that President
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Trump would not be president come January 20th of 2021. And here we are. We're still trying to
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adjust to the fact that President Biden is president. Your thoughts about what we've gone
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through over just... Oh, God. Well, first of all, I don't look at him as the president. I look at him
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as a resident. He was selected, not elected by the people. In my humble opinion, Louie, you know,
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we can all have an opinion. I think that it is a shame that he is literally destroying the foundation,
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the fabric of our country. And I always tell people when people come from other countries like Cuba
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and those places, when they come to this country, they come to this country because they have a place
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to run to. And I'm like, if we as Americans don't stand up for our freedoms, where are we going to run?
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Because we have no place to run. The United States is the greatest. And it's really sad to see
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someone up there destroying it bit by bit. You know, Lou, I thought about it. I don't think
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this is a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. This is an American problem. Americans is going to
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have to stick together and stand up against this tyranny that's happening to us and to the United States
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of America. That's right. And then even down to looking at what happened in 2020, November the 3rd,
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2020, when you look at it, I look at where the real insurrection took place on November the 4th,
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whenever all of these ballots just came in out of nowhere and just pushed Biden over the top.
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Because on election night, November the 3rd, President Donald J. Trump was the president.
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And so when they talk about all of the different damnable things that they want to blame on other
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people, let's look at everything that a lot of these Democrats did, especially as a pertainer to
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changing all of these rules and laws up in the middle of the game and not allowing the state
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legislators to do their job accordingly. But they went against what the Constitution says that they
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can do, and they did it their way. And now let's look at our Supreme Court justice that's not doing
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their job and deciphering what's right and what's wrong. So we have a real problem with what we see
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going on in this country. And it makes me wonder who is the puppet master behind puppet Joe pulling
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his strings. That's right. You know, you talk about, and that your frustration is shared by, you know,
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tens of millions of Americans, including me, who wanted very simply one thing, an explanation for what
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our lying eyes had witnessed, whether it be, you know, what happened in Detroit, what happened
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in Pennsylvania or Georgia or Arizona. And very simply a question. It looked like fraud was being
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perpetrated. We don't know how much fraud. We don't know if it would have been enough to overturn
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the outcome of that election. But we do know this, that the Republican Party and many of those polling
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places didn't have representatives watching as they are required to do. And they were just simply told,
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for example, in Philadelphia, get out of here, you're not welcome. We were watching in Detroit,
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Yeah. Yeah. You know who I blame for all of that, Lou? I blame the RNC because, you know,
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a lot of money, millions of dollars was raised in the name of President Donald J. Trump. And I felt like
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he should have been more protected. People should have been positioned. He kept saying what they
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were going to do. He kept saying they were going to use these mail-in ballots. He kept telling the
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public that, and everybody wanted to dismiss that. And so I blame the RNC, and I think it's time for
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some leadership change. I think that we need more fighters. We need fighters. We need people that's
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going to fight the status quo and not afraid to stand up to it. And when we look at the failed
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leadership, this is why we got what we got. We don't have fighters. We got people that go along
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to get along. And this whole fiasco, when it comes to our election, has opened up the American people
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eyes because now we really get to see about all the corruption. It looks like to me, my own humble
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opinion, that for years they've been playing musical chairs with the presidency up until Donald J. Trump.
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They give it to whoever they want to give it to. And I'm going to tell you, if we don't fix 2020,
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if we don't revisit that and clean that up, it's never going to be a 2022 or 2024. It's going to be
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difficult because the first thing they're going to say, oh, oh, at the midnight hour, oh, we got
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some mail-in ballots. And it's the craziest thing, but it's the truth. And then when I look at both
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parties, Democrats and Republicans, one thing that I've come to realize is that they're one dirty bird
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with two corrupt wings. They both go hand in hand and do the same exact thing. I mean, where is our
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Republicans right now fighting for the integrity? And when I say fighting for the integrity of the
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election and of America, I'm talking about going back and saying, wait a minute, the state
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legislations didn't do what they were supposed to do. When I look at the RNC with all of the money
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raised, why aren't they saying, oh, hold up. There needs to be a forensic audit here, here,
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here. Oh, wait a minute. Some things got to be to certify something. It's not looking right.
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It's something smelling fishy and it's not tuner. Somebody need to be saying enough for we, the
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American people. And I don't see that happening with the Republican Party or with the RNC or the GOP.
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Well, as usual, we are in absolute agreement. And I love the way you put it. I mean, think about this.
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We had in 2012 when Reince Priebus, we remember him, one of, well, President Trump's first chiefs of
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staff, the head of the RNC though, in 2012, he called for an autopsy after the election loss to
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Barack Obama. And, and you know what they call for here? Nothing. They want zero. They don't want to
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understand anything. They don't want to understand what happened. And by the way, we still don't really
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know what happened in 2012. I'm not suggesting that, but what you're, what you are both saying
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here is we have questions and they deserve, but the FBI refused to investigate the department of
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justice refused to investigate again. I am not saying that the result would have been different,
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but I am saying as clearly as I can. And I think that we agree that those questions have to be
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answered for the good of the Republic. But why do we have to speculate, Lou? Why do we have to
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speculate? Why can't we investigate? Why do we have to just sit here on pins and needles and wonder?
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And I think all we want is transparency. See, with this particular election, it was too many,
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it was too many hookups. You have trucks that's carrying ballots. I mean, it was too many things
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that was questionable. And if this was, if the shoe was on the other foot, the Democrats would be
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hollowing to the heels of wanting to know what's going on up and through here. And the reason why
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they bullied us into silence is because they act as though they don't want us to know.
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See, people got to understand we are a Republic governed by constitutional laws. And my first
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question is, was any laws, was any constitutional laws broken in 2020? If the answer is yes,
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everything should have been halted. I'm not talking about the other stuff. I'm talking about the
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constitutional law. The law was broken. And it looks like we have the members of Congress. They
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ain't nothing but lawbreakers, not lawmakers is what they are. And so we have to address that. We want
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the American people is asking for transparency and we want election integrity is what we want.
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We want to know that when I go and I cast my vote, that not a dead vote is going to take my place.
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Not an illegal vote is going to take my place. That's right. That's what I want to know.
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And, you know, to your point, and I want to focus on this, the changes that we need to have in place,
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when you referred to the responsibility and the only lawful authority to change election law resides
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with the state legislatures. And a half dozen states told their legislatures to step aside and
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here we go. Amongst them, Georgia, Pennsylvania, the usual list of suspects. And not one single state
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has fixed it. And the Republican National Committee, RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel, she is nowhere to be found.
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She is again absent. And since when, when you lose an election and as badly, as badly as that one was
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lost and by that, I'm not talking about just the numbers, I'm talking about the terrible questions and
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awful, awful appearance of that election, the irregularities, the anomalies and the incidents of
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fraud and the changes in our, in many of our state's election laws by the, by others than the state
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legislature, you've got to have someone take responsibility to assure it won't happen again.
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And instead what we have is everyone say, please don't, please don't raise your voice and ask a
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question. Who do you think you are? How dare you question the outcome of that election? Well,
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let me tell you how we dare. We're American citizens and we're not here to be treated like mushrooms,
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you know, with stuff being thrown on us in the dark and kept that way. It's terrible. We, you know,
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and one of the things I love about you guys, your passion, your energy, your intelligence,
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why doesn't that, why doesn't that just represent everything in the Republican party instead of
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these deadhead rhinos sitting, as you pointed out in Congress, uh, many of them breaking the law or
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they're certainly not making much law and really not serving the American people. I truly believe
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the rhinos are as much a part of this problem as the radical Democrats. What do you think?
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Yeah, you're absolutely right. You know, when you have Republicans, let's look at what's happening
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with the, with the people, uh, that protest on January the 6th and they're still locked up
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and not giving their due process. This is supposed to be the United States of America. Look at how the
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justice system is treating them and where are the Republicans at? You know, we see you up there to do a
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job and then you just give us a slap in the face and then you'll email us and want some of our money.
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You want us to donate, contribute it to you, but you don't even fight for us. We need people that's
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going to stand up and fight for the American people. We, I keep saying, I don't need a Becky.
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I need fighters. We need fighters that's going to go toe to toe with these people and what they're
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doing and laws should not be broken. But here's the deal. It's so sad that we're part of the Republican
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party. We're conservative, but they, they look at what they do to the American people. They don't
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stand up for it. They go along with what they want. They go along with the left wall. So it's
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like, you know, I don't think we, but you know what, when it comes to these parties, it's time for
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the American people to stick together. It's time for us to stick together because at the end of the
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day, this is about our freedom. When you look at Jim Crow, Joe Biden and what he's doing to this
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country, borders wide open, gas has gone up. Now we was oil independent. Now, all of a sudden we
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got to tap into the reserves because OPEC won't give us any gas. What? Just think about that for
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a minute, Lou. We could make our oil oil. Look at them. Look at them. Look at all-manufactured
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crises is what they're trying to do. They are going to take and they are going to destroy the United
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States of America. And it looks like they're trying to usher us into some form of communism,
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socialism. That's what it looks like to me. Something is up here.
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There is something up. And I, again, you're exactly right. It's incomprehensible. I think
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to most, most of us in this country that a year ago, not even a year ago, it was, we were
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an independent, an energy independent nation. President Trump put America first. President
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Trump had said, we're going to drill for oil. We're going to push through pipelines. We're
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going to have energy and then we'll be exporting energy. And he, in four years and in less than
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a year, in less than 11 months, Joe Biden has managed to destroy the XL pipeline. He is going
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to take down another, uh, if he has his way. And we're now begging OPEC for mercy, please.
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And, and Joe Biden, what's his big answer? He wants to open up the strategic petroleum reserves.
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That, that's crazy. And, and release 50 million gallons of crude oil, of barrels of crude oil.
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Yeah. 50 million barrels. But you know what? That's two and a half days supply of oil. That's
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how much we consume in this country. That's what a pittance it is. And that's what this genius
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is doing to try to fix, uh, higher oil prices. And by the way, he's not talking about how he's
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going to fix the cost of Turkey, uh, on, uh, how we're going to quit rationing, uh, you know,
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cranberry sauce. I own this because of the Biden genius plan for a new America. And, and you,
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you know, he, this is, this is a Marxist leftist, Oh yeah. Corporatist, uh, plan. And they mean,
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they mean to turn us from citizens into subjects, from citizens, uh, into just consumers and
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taxpayers. And slaves. And slaves. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you know what, Ludov, you know, you're
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saying all that. You're so right about that. But, but this is what, this is Americans. This
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is why you have to wake up and see this here. You know, the things that he's doing, it doesn't
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make sense. And then he said that he's going to run again in another four years. Well, listen,
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we're not going to make it. It's going to be completely destroyed. If all Americans don't
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wake up, I don't care what side of the aisle, y'all, if you don't wake up and see what this
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man is doing to this country. And it makes me wonder who was controlling Joe, is China controlling
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you? I mean, because I can't believe that you, he lives in the United States. He's obtained the
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American dream. The man is, he has money, but he don't want anyone else to obtain the
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American dream. He helped us live in the American nightmare. And he think we like this and we
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don't. We don't like any of this. It's crazy. It is crazy. And look at Joe Biden. How many
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of our senators and our congressmen come into public service representing the American people
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and they have $50 to their name or whatever it is. And they walk out like the Clintons with
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$109 million or they walk out like Obama's with $60 million in book contract. Since when did our
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public servants suddenly get on a fast track with an easy pass to fortunes? That should tell every
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citizen in this country the deal. They're being bought. They're being paid for. And by the way,
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we're not the ones doing it. Uh, we're, we mayor citizens are not the ones lining their pockets
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and making their fortunes possible. That's corporate America. That's wall street. That is
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these coalitions of interest groups, uh, that support the democratic party. Uh, we've seen an alignment
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between corporate America and wall street that is tighter with communist China than it is with a
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sitting president in this instance, Donald Trump. Uh, and now we're watching Joe Biden basically,
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uh, blow a kiss to president Xi Jinping and say, we're just competitors and everything will be right.
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While Xi Jinping is firing off hypersonic missiles, uh, uh, and missing a target by 25 miles. And our
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generals are saying, we don't understand how they did that. That's what's going on as a country right
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now. So what's got to happen, Lou? Again, we as Americans have to wake up. We, we, we shouldn't
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tolerate this. We shouldn't accommodate this here. You know, they, we don't, they don't, they work for
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us. We don't work for them. You see what I'm saying? They work for us. It's time for them to do right
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by the American people. The one thing we loved about president Trump, it was America first. It was
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Americans first. This man, Jim Crow, Joe Biden looked like he put the legal first before he put
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Americans first, you know, what is a wide open gas prices up full costs up. And he really believes
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in his heart, I guess that Americans really love this ride and we don't, we ready to get up off of
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it. That's right. You know, he can't pretend though, any longer that Americans love the lie,
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the Biden lie, the Biden program. When his vice president has a 28% approval rating, when he has
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a 36% approval rating down from 38, he can't ignore any longer. And what the American people are feeling
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and saying, 70% of us say we're on the wrong direction. We're headed in the wrong direction as
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a nation. And they're obviously now, what a thing that has to be bothering Joe Biden. I want to see
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what you think of this. I mean, it may be the reason he went out and announced he's running for
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reelection. Remember also, he was going to be a transition president. That sounded to me like
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he was going to do four years, but suddenly he's talking, he's talking about another four years.
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And I think the reason is Kamala. I think Kamala has got him scared to death that his legacy,
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whatever it is, what, however pathetic or minuscule is in danger because she won't get elected dog
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catcher as the expression goes. Uh, and he's got to be terrified. And I know the Democrats are because
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they've just had a big crisis meeting about it. Your thoughts. Well, you know, when you talk about
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Jim Crow Joe legacy, Jim Crow Joe legacy, don't have a leg to stand on. What legacy? Because he's
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been in government for over 50 years now and has not done one thing for the American people to protect
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us, to make sure we're good. But he's lined his pockets. He's good. You see what I'm saying? So he
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don't have a legacy. And even if he was to get out and it'd be Kamala, they didn't like Kamala when
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she was running. Her own state didn't even vote for her when she was running in the primaries. So I don't
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even know why they took elected her as president, put her in blackface, making it look like to black
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America that this lady is full fledged black and she was, she is not. And my humble opinion, you
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know, this is what they get, but trying to fool the American people and American people can see
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right through them. I don't care if it's a Jim Crow Joe, if it's Kamala, I don't care what Democrat
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run. Listen, we do not want another Democrat running nothing up into this country. They set it up like
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this. They started being radical. They started doing silly things. We don't want them running
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nothing in this country because they're going to run it in the ground. That's right. And also you
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got to remember too, that when they see that nobody is really challenging what happened in 2020 and the
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2020 elections, they feel like that they can get away with it again in 2022, 2024, the same thing,
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same script, different cast. They can continue to do that. And to me, Lou, it feels like this is
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something that they've been doing for several years instead of getting elected by the people
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they've been getting selected by the swamp. And so when I, when I hear about Jim Crow Joe
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talking about running again, he can't even run to the bathroom. So what we need for him to do is to
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retire. And we need to put the rightful person, the one that really won the election into the
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White House so that they can go ahead on and run this country. Right now, what I see happening is
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a puppet show. It's a puppet show. Somebody is pulling this man's strings, telling him to do
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this, this and that. And all of this stuff is anti-America. This man is pro-illegal aliens.
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And they're also, he's also, this regime is breaking our immigration laws. Anytime you are
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allowing illegal aliens to just flood our country, then you use American tax dollars to send them to
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all of our different, different states or what have you. And then you want to tell the American
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people, well, you have to get a job in order to travel. But then you got these people that's
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traveling from other countries to our country, and you don't even check their status to see if they
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have a virus or anything. I think that there is something seriously wrong with what's up there in
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the White House. And I think that, how can we be expected to depend on someone who's probably wearing
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the pants? My deal is everybody needs to wake up and smell the coffee. We see what's going on here.
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And I'm going to tell you another thing, Lou, that I'm signing out, that there are a lot of Democrats
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that is having Biden's remorse. They voted for Biden, but they are remorseful that they even voted and
00:25:53.860
pulled the lever for him because they say that they lived better and did better under Trump instead
00:25:59.920
of what's happening right here. And look, and we only, what, 11 months in? So people are having
00:26:04.540
some Biden's remorse, but it's going to take the masses of people. I always say that there is a cause
00:26:09.620
for the pause. There's a reason for this. And sometimes you have to tear down that foundation
00:26:14.260
that's been keeping this country stagnated. This country has been stagnated for years. How is it that
00:26:19.580
all of these billions and millions and trillions of dollars been going into infrastructure,
00:26:23.860
but we still have broken bridges and holes all in the roads and different things. And now they
00:26:29.160
want to push another so-called infrastructure bill to build what bridge? And then the bridge
00:26:34.700
still be crumbled, but the money be gone. But you know what? The reason why they do that is
00:26:38.720
because they are nothing but a den of thieves up there. And see, when they usher us into the
00:26:43.540
communism, they're using American tax dollars. And it's so sad. It's so sad how these people rip
00:26:49.580
our country off, rip off our American tax dollars, and they think they can go somewhere. Nancy
00:26:54.440
Pelosi thinks that he can go somewhere, retire somewhere in Florida. She done destroyed the
00:26:58.520
country. Like, that's going to be good. I just don't get it. I don't understand it. But like
00:27:02.700
Silk said, the American people is going to have to wake up to all of this.
00:27:06.300
And you are doing a wonderful job of setting the alarm and waking a lot of people by the millions.
00:27:18.580
Diamond and Silk, it's always great to have you with us. I want to, I'm going to give you the last
00:27:23.480
word here. I want to just say, as we're, as I'm thinking about this White House, the man just keeps
00:27:31.300
lying. You talked about the money that's going to illegal immigrants. Almost half a million dollars.
00:27:36.740
He denied it. The next day had to admit it. And it happens time after time after time. He obviously
00:27:45.000
doesn't know what's going on. And then in the Rittenhouse trial, in the middle of a 17-year-old
00:27:51.580
on trial for his life for defending himself in the middle of a riot, he decides that that 17-year-old
00:27:58.580
boy is a white supremacist. They say that he's going to be sued for defamation and that others
00:28:05.020
will as well. To think that this is going on and that in Wisconsin, they put this kid on trial,
00:28:14.380
scared to death, shooting two people and killing them and wounding four. He was completely exonerated.
00:28:23.180
And when you look at our media today, it's as if he had been found guilty. And the left saying,
00:28:31.040
well, it ought to be a federal case the next time and we'll try him for murder, double jeopardy,
00:28:36.080
even though that's against the constitution of this country. The ugliness and the hate is just
00:28:42.620
overwhelming. And all Joe Biden does is add more fuel to the fire. Oh yeah. He adds more fuel to
00:28:53.100
the fire. You have the left-wing media defaming somebody, slandering people, making white teenagers
00:29:01.080
feel like that they are part of some type of white supremacist, like they're racist. I mean,
00:29:06.400
just look at it. Look at this. And the media set this thing up, Lou, to make it appear that this
00:29:13.560
boy was defending himself. No, not defending himself, just shot some black people. That's what
00:29:18.860
everybody was going around thinking until we saw the actual footage in the video. The media didn't
00:29:23.500
have this stuff. The media, listen, let me tell you something. I hope Kyle Rittenhouse, who every
00:29:29.060
journalist, every news organization that demeaned him, disparaged him, vilified him. I hope he sued
00:29:36.660
the pans off of him. That's right. And then how is it that they continue to label a white person that
00:29:42.500
shoots? Okay. But now he didn't even shoot a black person. He killed a black person. He killed two
00:29:50.220
white men. So, but they want to label him as a white supremacist. So what is it when a black person
00:29:56.500
shoots another black person? Are they black supremacists? Well, look at what happened down
00:30:02.460
there in Wisconsin. Yeah. That, that, that man in that truck that threw, plowed through that
00:30:07.380
crowd. That's right. See, everybody is really excited on that. Do we call that black supremacy?
00:30:12.820
Right. I mean, the media is going to have to stop attacking people and, and, and, and, and
00:30:18.260
branding them a certain way. And then when people see these people, oh, that's white supremacy. Oh,
00:30:22.960
they're going to have to stop doing that. And that's how Rittenhouse should take them down one
00:30:28.260
by one. He's not a racist. He's not a white supremacist. He was defending himself. And I
00:30:34.560
would defend anyone that defend themselves and don't let nobody sit up and beat on them.
00:30:39.200
They talked about his gun, but nobody said anything about the gun that was held to his
00:30:43.540
hand or the man beat him in the head with the skateboard or the black guy that kicked him
00:30:47.640
in the face. In the face. Nobody said nothing about that. Well, he shouldn't have used that gun.
00:30:51.840
He shouldn't have came to the protest. None of them shouldn't have been out there at the
00:30:55.360
protest. Oh, not a protest. It was a riot. It was a riot.
00:30:58.040
All in our communities and acting crazy in the streets. None of them shouldn't have been
00:31:03.300
Absolutely. Guys, it's great having you here. And I got to tell you, you are, you are a national
00:31:15.740
We love you. And we just admire you so much and wish you all of the very best and hope
00:31:22.980
you come back soon and real soon and real frequently.
00:31:32.120
And we're going to prevail in this thing. We're going to win.
00:31:38.760
And in large measure, because of diamond and silk.
00:31:45.460
All the best. We're coming right back with much more of the Great America Show.
00:31:52.320
Today, we'll be taking up the deeply disturbing events in Waukesha, Wisconsin, where a self-described
00:31:59.160
terrorist massacred grandmothers and children as they marched in a Christmas parade.
00:32:04.640
That vicious terrorist act and that massacre has raised lots of questions and lots of issues.
00:32:11.540
Among them, why has the national left-wing media been so reluctant to call the man what
00:32:20.440
And why did city officials say there would be no more news conferences to report to citizens
00:32:25.680
and the rest of the country developments in that case?
00:32:29.420
And can the massacre in Waukesha of innocence ever be understood?
00:32:33.720
Without considering the presence of evil and understanding the power of the dark force
00:32:42.060
And why is it that national left-wing media would rather cover the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse
00:32:47.400
and his acquittal on all counts after he was charged with murder for simply defending himself
00:32:56.000
Two recent developments, one in which a leaked health and human services memo revealed incredibly
00:33:02.880
the Biden administration seeking to strip Americans of religious protections and at the same time
00:33:09.320
force Christian colleges to permit men to live in women's storms.
00:33:14.420
What is the Biden administration's position on religious rights?
00:33:19.360
The first amendment that had been expanded under former President Donald Trump will take up
00:33:28.640
A new abortion case, this one in Mississippi, soon to be heard by the Supreme Court.
00:33:34.260
And with us today, I am pleased to tell you, is Pastor Robert Jeffers, senior pastor of the
00:33:39.220
First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, television and radio show host, a prolific writer, best-selling
00:33:45.800
author whose most recent book is Invincible, and we recommend it to you highly, my friend,
00:33:55.780
Always good to be back, Lou, on the Great America Show.
00:34:00.300
And let's start right away with the fact that President Trump is still so popular with evangelicals,
00:34:07.720
and it seems that President Biden is, well, I'll just say, not so popular and doing his best to alienate
00:34:19.960
President Trump and his tremendous policies continue to resonate with evangelical Christians.
00:34:26.480
As you know, they voted for him, 80% of them voted for him in 2016, and just about the same number in
00:34:36.480
And I think it's becoming even more evident why his presidency was so important and why the loss in
00:34:47.080
President Trump never pretended to be a particularly pious individual, but he understood the
00:34:52.900
importance of religious liberty and faith in our country.
00:34:56.480
And our country was on a downward trajectory under Barack Obama.
00:35:01.880
People asked me why I supported him back in 2015, President Trump.
00:35:05.960
I said he's the only one who could turn this country around, and he did that for four years.
00:35:12.520
And now Joe Biden, the successor to the Obama administration agenda, he has taken this country
00:35:24.200
And, you know, one thing I can say about Joe Biden, he has kept every promise he made.
00:35:30.120
He promised to take us to the hard left position, and that's exactly what he's doing.
00:35:35.200
And President Biden, a leaked memo from the Department of Health and Human Services.
00:35:42.080
Incredibly, the memo describes plans to, quote, sign delegation of authority on the Religious Freedom
00:35:49.880
Restoration Act and Religion Clause of the First Amendment to the Office for Civil Rights.
00:35:56.640
And Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma says that that will undo liberty protections, disregard the
00:36:04.360
And it's an affront and an attack on religious liberty, is it not?
00:36:11.960
And James Lankford, by the way, is a great champion of religious liberty.
00:36:21.320
He is a tremendous champion for religious freedom.
00:36:23.960
And he warned against confirming Becerra as the HHS secretary, warning that this very thing
00:36:32.240
And, Lou, by assigning religious liberty protection to the Office of Civil Rights, what it's basically
00:36:39.300
saying is the Biden administration is if you don't sign on to homosexual marriage and
00:36:46.120
transgenderism, you're going to have your rights stripped away from you as religious people.
00:36:52.260
But Becerra claims he supports religious liberty, and he promised to uphold religious protections
00:37:06.300
Well, I mean, yes, just like Joe Biden is a good Catholic, we're told, even though he supports
00:37:13.420
I mean, the fact is, Lou, only if you believe in a religion that denies the truth of the Bible,
00:37:19.500
that believes that traditional marriage is gone forever and we ought to accept homosexual
00:37:25.940
marriage, if you believe that transgenderism is a viable option, that God didn't create
00:37:31.860
people male and female, he created them male, female, and question mark, if your religion
00:37:37.080
teaches you that, then yes, you're a religious person.
00:37:40.580
But this is not the religion of Christianity that Becerra and Biden are promoting.
00:37:46.380
Why is this now such a major issue in our society?
00:37:51.600
That is, transgender, homosexual rights, all of this is moving to the forefront of the political
00:38:04.940
discussions and, if you will, political activism.
00:38:09.600
And it seems to me, at least with all of the issues that confront this country, it is somewhat
00:38:17.080
strange that those are the issues that are dominating so many agendas across a wide number of interests
00:38:29.800
Yeah, I want to make it clear, Lou, I am not homophobic.
00:38:34.260
I mean, Amy and I have friends who are gay and we understand this is a free country, but the fact is
00:38:44.400
It's always been the understanding that marriage is between a man and a woman.
00:38:48.100
The Supreme Court in 1865 in the Ramsey case affirmed the fact that marriage is between a man and a woman.
00:38:55.180
And people are free to disagree with that, but what they're not free to do is to take away the rights of those of us
00:39:01.880
who believe that and believe that's what the Scripture teaches.
00:39:05.800
And to answer your question specifically, why is this at the forefront again?
00:39:10.820
Remember, under Barack Obama, this is where he was taking our nation.
00:39:14.880
The Obergefell case, the Supreme Court in case of 2015 that legalized same-sex marriage.
00:39:23.220
In the Hosanna-Tabor case, it was the Obama administration that was trying to force religious
00:39:29.540
schools to tell them who they could hire and who they couldn't hire.
00:39:33.900
This is the direction we were headed in until Donald Trump came into office and upset the liberal
00:39:40.580
agenda. But now that he's out of office, Joe Biden is picking up exactly where Obama left off.
00:39:48.860
He's going to warp speed on this. And frankly, I think one reason he's trying to move so quickly is
00:39:54.540
he knows he's losing. He sees his poll numbers going down. And I think the Democrats are absolutely
00:40:00.780
panicked to force this agenda into place before they lose office.
00:40:05.360
And what are the odds in your judgment? Are they going to succeed because of the urgency
00:40:11.920
they are attaching to it in part? Or is this bad timing with a weak president whose poll numbers are
00:40:20.520
at 36 percent of the most recent Quinnipiac poll of Vice President Kamala Harris? Her numbers are even
00:40:27.640
lower, 28 percent. Well, I tell you, I don't think they're going to succeed. And the reason they're not
00:40:33.820
going to succeed is because of Donald J. Trump and the legacy he left of 200 conservative
00:40:40.760
federal judges, three conservative Supreme Court justices who will be the road bump, the speed bump
00:40:47.500
that will keep this nation from going off the cliff completely. So I think we ought to thank
00:40:52.960
President Trump for that. And I think also the politics of this are horrible, as we saw in
00:41:00.560
Virginia. I think the Virginia governorship was lost largely on the transgender agenda. And this girl
00:41:08.520
being raped by apparently someone who was posing as a female but was actually a male. And I think these
00:41:16.940
kind of things are hurting the Democrat cause. And so with a lot of prayer, I think we can hope this
00:41:23.060
nation will be turned around. And that taking place in a public school. And the debate and the
00:41:29.620
the information actually being revealed at a school board meeting, was it not?
00:41:35.480
Yes, absolutely. And more and more evidence is coming out that the school board knew about it
00:41:40.000
and chose to hide it. Well, if it's not clear to everyone that the Marxist left in this country
00:41:46.960
intends to take control of education away from parents where it's always resided and with citizens
00:41:54.860
of the community and replace it with the power of government, the state, it should be clear now.
00:42:02.480
Otherwise, it'll never be clear to some people. It is a deadly serious issue that will have
00:42:10.200
tremendous consequences if the left were to prevail. Luckily, fortunately, it looks to me like parents
00:42:18.720
and citizens who have awakened to this threat and are making certain that they win on the issue.
00:42:26.840
Let's turn to the Supreme Court also about to hear the Mississippi abortion case and get your
00:42:39.700
Lou, I'm very encouraged by this Mississippi case, which outlaws abortions after 15 weeks.
00:42:47.140
Frankly, I think it stands a better chance in the Supreme Court than even our Texas bill,
00:42:52.820
the fetal heartbeat bill, because of the enforcement mechanism that some of our conservative justices
00:43:00.820
have even raised an eyebrow over. But look, let me put this in perspective. I believe that abortion
00:43:07.520
has become the central moral issue of our day, just like slavery was the central moral issue
00:43:16.040
of the 19th century. And remember, Lou, the Supreme Court actually supported slavery in 1853 in the
00:43:25.460
Dred Scott case. And I'm sure people were yelling precedent and stare decisis and so forth. Fortunately,
00:43:32.500
the Supreme Court got overturned by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. I think in days ahead,
00:43:39.260
years ahead, we're going to look back on Roe v. Wade as the Dred Scott case of our era. Just as Dred Scott
00:43:47.340
said, African-Americans are no more than chattel property. They have no rights. Roe v. Wade says
00:43:53.980
children are no more than a biological blob in a mother's womb. And fortunately, science has proven
00:44:00.020
otherwise. And I am very optimistic that Roe v. Wade, if not outright, completely overturned,
00:44:08.740
is going to be sharply diminished, especially if it's sent back to the states.
00:44:13.700
And as I think about it, the issue of abortion properly resides for adjudication. But as I think
00:44:24.200
about what we've seen the left do in this country over the past 10 years, they have really become a
00:44:31.560
mob. They act by intimidation, even trying to intimidate Supreme Court justices, including most
00:44:40.800
memorably Justice Kavanaugh, who they reduced to tears in his confirmation hearing. The assault on
00:44:49.720
decency itself in this country. It's very difficult to imagine what the reaction of the left will be
00:44:58.920
to overturning Roe v. Wade, asserting the right to life in this country and doing so in law.
00:45:11.320
Well, that's right, Lou. And the fact is, the left cannot stand for competing ideas to be voiced.
00:45:18.040
They want to silence any opposition to their position. And I just think it is so ironic that
00:45:25.220
the left tells us all the time, we need to follow the science. We need to follow the science. In fact,
00:45:31.440
if you look at the Roe v. Wade ruling, the Supreme Court actually based its decision on the science of
00:45:37.880
the day. Well, that was 50 years ago. And science has changed. And science has given us a greater view of
00:45:44.900
what is inside a mother's womb. And the fact that it is a human being and that it can feel pain at a
00:45:51.040
very early stage in its development. And science is what yells out for life. And yet, when it comes
00:45:59.100
to science that they don't approve of, the left wants to ignore it. It's the enormity of what has
00:46:06.760
befallen the nation since Roe v. Wade is almost too dark and too emotional to contemplate. Because to
00:46:20.900
think that the nation moved so far from what had always been the standard, that is, the right to life,
00:46:28.160
and that which had been prohibited, forbidden, ending that life in the womb. It's terrible to
00:46:38.580
think of the tens of millions of those lives that were extinguished through something called the
00:46:46.200
right of abortion. Lou, since you're a financial guy, I thought... Well, I'm a lot more than a financial
00:46:51.440
guy, Pat. You're a lot more than that. But I remember you back from the CNN Moneyline days I
00:46:57.360
used to watch every night. And I remember reading a study that talked about what would have happened
00:47:05.440
if those 50 million children who were slaughtered through abortion since 1973, if they had been allowed
00:47:14.600
to live and turned into productive human beings, there would be no social security crisis or
00:47:21.180
Medicare crisis if you hadn't killed millions of people who would have been paying into that system.
00:47:27.600
And so there's a fiscal implication of abortion, not to mention the spiritual implication. I mean,
00:47:34.000
all you have to do is look in the Bible and see what God did to his own people, ancient Israel,
00:47:39.420
when they engaged in child sacrifice. He sent his harshest judgments on the nation for that. And I
00:47:45.860
believe we're in danger, Lou, of facing God's judgment on our country if we continue slaughtering
00:47:51.900
the unborn at the rate of 800,000 a year. When you think about it, there are all sorts of ways to
00:47:58.720
think about it, of course. But the most fundamental and, to me, correct way to look at it is the right
00:48:05.560
and the wrong of it. It's a difficult choice for, I understand, for so many people in this country,
00:48:13.620
who, through their ideology, through their view of religion, may rationalize. But the fact of the
00:48:22.480
matter is, it is a departure from Judeo-Christian heritage, what we are witnessing today that has the
00:48:31.000
imprimatur of approval from our government. And that is a heavy burden for any of us to contemplate.
00:48:39.940
What do you think that the Supreme Court will decide?
00:48:43.540
Lou, I don't think it's going to be an outright ban or overturning of Roe v. Wade. And I say that for
00:48:50.080
this reason. I wish it were. But you still have 60 percent of Americans of approving of Roe in some way.
00:48:57.820
The Supreme Court has always kind of stuck its collective fingers in the air to see which way
00:49:03.460
the wind is blowing and following that lead. So I'm not expecting an outright ban on Roe,
00:49:11.740
but I hope it will be sent to the states and the conservative states like Texas and Florida
00:49:16.840
and other states will be able to ban it completely.
00:49:20.340
And Pastor, I want to turn to now Waukesha, Wisconsin, that terrible, terrible atrocity. And
00:49:30.040
I know that you've written on this for foxnews.com. But the Waukesha tragedy, it is a massacre
00:49:38.100
by a man who described himself as a terrorist. Yes. Again, the national left-wing media are loathed to
00:49:45.900
report that, to describe it as what it was, a massacre of innocence. Your thoughts on,
00:49:56.240
as you styled it in your article, how God could allow this to happen, which is a profound and
00:50:04.540
fundamental question for Christians, for all people of faith. But I want to go beyond that and ask,
00:50:12.620
is this not just straightforwardly evidence of pure evil within our society?
00:50:23.000
Well, the answer to that is yes. There is a real force of evil, and there is a person behind that
00:50:30.800
evil. The Bible talks about the reality of Satan, and even Jesus said he is the prince of the power of
00:50:37.380
the air. He said about Satan, he is a thief who came to kill, steal, and destroy. And if that sounds
00:50:44.280
like crazy talk to some of our listeners, that's Jesus talking. He must have been insane if what he
00:50:51.800
was talking about isn't true. But he wasn't insane. He was telling the truth. There is an unseen but very
00:50:57.440
dark world out there. And the fact is, right now, Satan seems to be having victory, but it won't always
00:51:05.960
be that way, Lou. The fact is, one day, Satan and evil will be conquered forever. And as I said in my
00:51:12.440
piece, I mean, the fact is, we do live in a broken world, but the good news of the gospel is this world
00:51:19.200
will not be broken forever. And I think right now, the reason God allows these things to happen is
00:51:25.960
he's allowing everyone to see what happens in a world that tries to exist without him. And I think
00:51:32.840
as a nation, we are suffering the consequences of trying to remove any mention or teaching of God
00:51:39.220
from the public square, refusing to follow his will. And there are consequences to that. And I think the
00:51:46.300
massacre in Wisconsin is just one of the many evidences of evil running rampant in the world.
00:51:52.360
And there is, in Wisconsin, another bright light, if you will, to offset the dark tragedy of the
00:52:07.460
massacre. And that's, of course, the Rittenhouse verdict, in which this young man was acquitted on
00:52:15.360
all counts unanimously by a jury and, and the right to self-defense given great support. Uh, and I, I think
00:52:25.540
a, a terrific moment, uh, was it sufficient to offset the tragedy, uh, uh, of workation? No, but it is a,
00:52:35.260
definitely a sign that the right to self-defense is alive and well in America.
00:52:40.560
Absolutely, Lou. And as much as the left wants to make that verdict, uh, something that was racist,
00:52:48.200
uh, uh, or a sign of injustice, no, this was a case of self-defense that is not only enshrined in
00:52:56.380
our legal system, but Lou, most people don't realize our laws about self-defense are based on
00:53:01.960
the Bible, both the old and the new Testament. In Exodus 22, verse two, the Bible says, if a thief
00:53:08.500
breaks in during night and you strike a fatal blow against him, you are innocent. Uh, Romans 13 in
00:53:15.740
the New Testament gives government the right to bear the sword to defend its citizens. And our government
00:53:22.520
has vested some of that power in its individual citizens through the second amendment. So this is
00:53:29.160
God's justice that allows for self-defense. All life is sacred. Life is so valuable that it deserves to
00:53:36.700
be protected. Even if in protecting it, it costs the lack of somebody else.
00:53:42.880
Well, pastor, as always, uh, it has been great, uh, sitting down and talking with you. I want to,
00:53:48.540
uh, do as is our habit here, give you the very last word, uh, and say first, uh, thanks for being with
00:53:56.180
us and for tutoring us, uh, through some of the events, uh, of recent times. It's very helpful and
00:54:03.320
always educational. Pastor, you get the last word. Lou, every American and every Christian is glad
00:54:10.560
you're back with the great America show. Thank you for giving me, uh, the opportunity to discuss.
00:54:16.000
And I would just tell your listeners, yes, there are some things to be discouraged about, but we can
00:54:20.820
be encouraged that God is still on his throne. Even when Joe Biden is in the Oval Office, God is in
00:54:27.400
his throne and his purpose is going to ultimately, maybe not immediately, but ultimately be fulfilled.
00:54:34.460
Pastor, thanks so much. We appreciate it. And we thank you for the words of, uh, inspiration and
00:54:40.580
to all of, uh, what you've said here today, I'll just simply say, amen. Pastor, thanks so much.
00:54:49.180
Great to have you with us. Uh, wish you all the best and we'll talk soon.
00:54:53.360
Thanks, Lou. Thank you, Pastor. Join us again tomorrow for the Great America Podcast.
00:54:59.120
Stay in the fight. Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.