The Great America Show - President Trump just de-escalated what could have been the start of WWIII

00:00:00.000 Thank you, Mr. President, and thank you, Madam Attorney General, both my friends for many years.

00:00:10.000 Long ago, I went to law school to study about justice and to bring justice to victims of violent crimes, women, children, and the elderly.

00:00:22.960 I fought to give them a voice in a system that was both blind and deaf to their concerns.

00:00:31.080 I dedicated my heart and soul to making sure that there was a system that responded to them.

00:00:38.980 My profile and my prosecutorial successes garnered public attention, and my life took unexpected turns.

00:00:46.600 Through all of this, President Trump, you have remained as steadfast as one of my earliest supporters and champions.

00:00:56.060 You never wavered. You were always steadfast, trustworthy, and confident.

00:01:03.260 Today, Mr. President, you bring me back to my roots.

00:01:07.320 And it is a larger arena, but no less an arena where we need justice, where we need to send a message that justice will be honored in the District of Columbia.

00:01:21.120 And just last week, here in our nation's capital, two people on the brink of beginning their life had hopes and dreams that were never realized

00:01:32.840 because a cold-blooded murderer made a decision to shoot them down on the streets on a cold, rainy night in our nation's capital.

00:01:44.160 This will not go without just accounting.

00:01:48.100 My voice should be heard loud and clear.

00:01:53.400 No more tolerance of hatred.

00:01:58.060 No more mercy for criminals.

00:02:01.580 Violence will be addressed directly with the appropriate punishment.

00:02:07.500 And this city will again become a shining city on a hill

00:02:11.900 in an America that President Trump has promised to make great again and will make safe again.

00:02:21.360 Mr. President, America thanks you, and I thank you.

00:02:26.080 Thank you very much.

00:02:32.000 The days of no law and no order in D.C. are over.

00:02:36.340 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:02:38.820 Thanks for joining us on this beautiful Wednesday night in America.

00:02:42.420 We appreciate you spending at least part of your Wednesday night with us.

00:02:46.160 That was Judge Jeanine earlier today.

00:02:48.080 Judge Jeanine Pirio taking over as the interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia,

00:02:53.600 taking over that role from Ed Martin, the gentleman whose time there was sank by RINO Senator Tom Tillis.

00:03:01.940 Janine now takes over, ensuring us that law and order will prevail, truth, justice, and the American way

00:03:07.640 will start to prevail in the District of Columbia, a place that's been ripe with corruption

00:03:12.280 and disgust and crime for far too long.

00:03:16.060 So we wish Judge Jeanine, who I know personally, all the luck that she needs going into that job.

00:03:24.120 President Trump today in the Oval Office taking some questions just after Judge Jeanine was sworn in,

00:03:29.220 shedding some light on something that happened last week or two weeks ago, I should say,

00:03:36.440 while he was over in the Middle East negotiating some peace deals.

00:03:40.200 President Trump issued a stand-down order to Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel.

00:03:45.400 Take a listen.

00:03:46.340 Ron, did you warn Prime Minister Netanyahu against taking some sort of actions that could disrupt the talks there

00:03:52.120 in a phone call last week?

00:03:54.500 Well, I'd like to be honest. Yes, I did. Next question, please.

00:04:00.560 You were talking about all the sanctions.

00:04:02.240 I did, yeah.

00:04:02.920 If the Senate Republicans want to put...

00:04:04.660 It's not a warning. I said, I don't think it's appropriate.

00:04:07.500 What exactly did you tell them?

00:04:09.200 I said, I don't think it's appropriate. We're having very good discussions with them.

00:04:13.140 And I said, I don't think it's appropriate right now.

00:04:15.200 Because if we can settle it with a very strong document, very strong, with inspections and no trust.

00:04:23.820 I don't trust anybody. I don't trust anybody.

00:04:27.400 So no trust. I want it very strong where we can go in with inspectors.

00:04:31.780 We can take whatever we want. We can blow up whatever we want, but nobody getting killed.

00:04:36.580 We can blow up a lab, but nobody's going to be in the lab as opposed to everybody being in the lab and blowing it up.

00:04:41.800 Right. Two ways of doing it. Yeah, I told him this would be inappropriate to do right now because we're very close to a solution.

00:04:49.120 Now, that could change at any moment. Could change with a phone call.

00:04:53.760 But right now, I think they want to make a deal. And if we can make a deal, save a lot of lives.

00:05:01.580 That was in reference to, as I said just a few weeks ago, when President Trump was over in Saudi Arabia.

00:05:06.160 And Benjamin Netanyahu wanted President Trump to start bombing Iran without having any sort of peace talk beforehand.

00:05:15.020 President Trump vehemently against that.

00:05:17.800 Now, you may remember back in 2016, President Trump and Mike Pompeo tried to talk him into, once again, striking Iran.

00:05:26.640 And President Trump has been vehemently opposed to starting any sort of new wars because if we do attack Iran, it's going to start a world war. 0.74

00:05:36.500 So it's not something that should be taken lightly.

00:05:39.600 And it's not something that Benjamin Netanyahu should be advocating for, especially on America's behalf.

00:05:45.440 If he wants to go start his own war with his own people, that's on him.

00:05:51.580 But to be advocating for America to go to war with a nation that will most likely be a nuclear war,

00:05:59.600 which will most likely wipe Israel off the face of the earth, doesn't make much sense on why Netanyahu would be advocating for such thing.

00:06:12.180 Going to war with Iran doesn't benefit anybody.

00:06:15.440 So if Donald Trump can handle it diplomatically, as he has said he's going to do, as he tried to do his first term,

00:06:22.540 but then there was a stolen election in 2020, we need to let him go ahead and do that.

00:06:27.900 Now, at the end of the day, if it doesn't work out and Iran wants to act up and Iran wants to threaten America, 0.95

00:06:34.160 then we look at the next steps on how we progress from there.

00:06:37.940 But to go in and just start bombing, that's the ways of John McCain and Mitt Romney and John Bolton.

00:06:45.440 We veered away from that in 2016 when we decided to elect Donald Trump as president of the United States.

00:06:55.740 And now it may be almost 10 years later, but he hasn't veered away from trying to be a peacetime president.

00:07:05.180 In his first term, he had the Abraham Accords, which in my belief is the only reason why Israel is still standing today 0.98

00:07:11.600 as they go through a war in Gaza and wars with other nations surrounding Israel.

00:07:18.960 Without the Abraham Accords, it pits Egypt and Saudi Arabia against Israel. 0.87

00:07:25.540 So, let's not forget what Donald Trump did for them in 2016 and what he continues to do now protecting it.

00:07:33.480 Let Donald Trump do his thing, Mr. Netanyahu. 0.63

00:07:36.060 If the time comes where war is needed, Donald Trump will assess that.

00:07:39.520 But let's not force his hand into anything he doesn't want to do.

00:07:43.020 And I don't think there's any forcing his hand to begin with.

00:07:47.160 David Sachs, the crypto czar for President Trump, sat down for an interview last night with Jesse Waters on Fox News.

00:07:56.160 We have some insight just into who may have controlled that auto pen for Joe Biden and his corrupt administration.

00:08:04.600 This is the financial system of the future, Jesse, and we have to encourage it.

00:08:08.960 What the Biden administration was doing, and let's face it, it wasn't Biden.

00:08:12.160 Elizabeth Warren controlled the auto pen during that administration. 0.98

00:08:15.600 She, for some reason, has this pathological hatred of the crypto community.

00:08:20.100 She wants to drive this community offshore. 1.00

00:08:22.460 She doesn't want it happening in the United States.

00:08:24.340 That's the wrong policy for the United States.

00:08:26.460 We want all the innovation happening here.

00:08:28.240 This is a financial system of the future.

00:08:30.180 It's cheaper.

00:08:30.880 It's more efficient.

00:08:32.180 We want it happening here, Jesse.

00:08:33.680 And I think people are thrilled that President Trump is making that possible.

00:08:38.680 So could Elizabeth Warren have been the one to have been controlling that auto pen?

00:08:43.720 Well, that's what David Sachs is, a member of President Trump's administration.

00:08:48.140 We're going to take a deeper look into that and keep you updated on it here on The Great America Show.

00:08:52.800 But that's sort of interesting because we've been trying to figure it out.

00:08:55.380 Next week, we're going to be down in D.C.

00:08:57.660 sitting down with House Oversight Chairman James Comer,

00:09:00.480 House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, among other members of Congress and senators in the District of Columbia.

00:09:08.640 So we're going to be sure to try to get to the bottom of some of these questions that I think we all deserve answers to.

00:09:15.240 Canada, the 51st state, at least that's what President Trump wants and what he's been advocating for.

00:09:21.120 President Trump tweeting out yesterday, well, on Truth Social, I should say,

00:09:26.220 I told Canada, which is very much wants to be part of the fabulous Golden Dome system,

00:09:30.860 that it'll cost $61 billion if they remain a separate but unequal nation,

00:09:35.720 but will cost $0 if they become our cherished 51st state.

00:09:41.380 They are considering the offer.

00:09:42.940 Donald Trump, to the best of my knowledge, has been trolling this whole time about calling Trudeau,

00:09:50.540 former prime minister, the governor of the great state of Canada.

00:09:55.620 But it seems Donald Trump may be serious about making Canada the 51st state.

00:10:02.640 I'm not sure how I feel about it.

00:10:04.160 I'll have to get back to you all on that.

00:10:06.220 But nonetheless, Donald Trump always finds a way to make things very interesting for us.

00:10:11.460 That big, beautiful bill, Senator Rick Scott, was on television yesterday saying it has no chance of passing the Senate as it sits right now.

00:10:21.420 And that's no thanks to anybody other than the RINOs and the Marxist Dems in the Senate who hate America.

00:10:30.320 Massive tax increases are going to come if that bill doesn't pass.

00:10:34.680 Now, is it perfect? No.

00:10:35.540 But when was the last time we truly saw a perfect bill come out of Congress?

00:10:41.460 I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

00:10:44.720 But this is something that is going to extend tax cuts, the Trump tax cuts from the first administration to millions and tens of millions of Americans.

00:10:53.020 This is the bill that's going to make no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no interest on American-made vehicle loans, among many other things.

00:11:06.000 So is it perfect? No.

00:11:09.040 But we need this to get the Trump administration on track.

00:11:12.880 Not that they're not on track, but on track to continue for the next three and a half years to make America great again.

00:11:19.840 Our guest today to take all this up and much, much more is one of your favorites, one of my favorites.

00:11:24.780 And he's a weekly regular here on The Great America Show, political strategist and host of The Stone Zone each and every night, 8 p.m. Eastern Time, WABC Radio or thestonezone.com.

00:11:35.740 Roger, it's always it's great to have you with us on The Great America Show.

00:11:44.480 I want to start with first the big, beautiful bill and what's going on with it in the House.

00:11:49.520 Obviously, it's passed the House now into the Senate.

00:11:51.620 But what I've been realizing lately is there's some sort of rift between Elon Musk and some Republicans.

00:11:59.400 Elon was on a television show earlier this morning and had this to say about the big, beautiful bill.

00:12:04.960 I was like disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it.

00:12:15.000 And I reminds the work that the Doge team is doing.

00:12:17.100 I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along, I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year.

00:12:25.040 I think I think a bill can be can be can be big or it can be beautiful.

00:12:29.680 But I don't know if it could be both.

00:12:31.980 My personal opinion.

00:12:34.640 So what's your thoughts, Roger?

00:12:36.420 Well, first of all, let's recognize there's a lot of very important stuff that is in the bill.

00:12:41.460 Most importantly, the extension of the Trump tax cuts.

00:12:45.200 These are the largest tax cuts in American history.

00:12:48.560 They're set to expire in January.

00:12:51.360 So if you were against the bill, that meant de facto you were in favor of the greatest single one time tax increase in our nation's history.

00:12:59.180 Also, obviously doing away with the tax on tips, which I think won Trump the swing state of Nevada, for example.

00:13:07.280 Also good public policy.

00:13:09.120 It's interesting that the guy who cuts my hair, very excited about this.

00:13:15.960 Beyond that, of course, no tax on Social Security, no tax on retirement tax credit.

00:13:22.620 If you buy a vehicle, a car or a truck, a truck made in the United States, a lot of good stuff in the bill.

00:13:30.320 Elon's not wrong about the fact that House Republicans don't seem to want to come to grips with the problem of spending.

00:13:36.980 The president's economic plan has three parts.

00:13:42.260 Tariffs, which I think is actually going quite well.

00:13:44.940 In the end, Trump will bludgeon all of our trading partners into giving us a fair deal.

00:13:50.800 In every case, their tariffs on us are higher than our tariffs on them.

00:13:57.180 That's just a fact.

00:13:58.780 Secondarily, of course, is tax reduction.

00:14:01.600 And thirdly, we have to get spending under control.

00:14:04.660 Elon Musk has shown the way.

00:14:08.140 He has uncovered not millions, not billions, but trillions of dollars in waste, fraud and corruption.

00:14:15.880 As things stand now, we're going to continue to fund terrorist organizations abroad from USAID.

00:14:22.440 So they have to get serious about cutting spending.

00:14:26.480 I think that's what Elon was referring to.

00:14:28.560 Hopefully, as the bill gets through the Senate, there will be some spending cuts that are real.

00:14:35.640 Yes, you can cut spending substantially without hurting people on Medicare or Social Security.

00:14:43.700 The Democrats continuing to claim Trump is gutting both programs. 0.97

00:14:47.580 That's the same crap that they feed us every two or four years. 0.98

00:14:52.000 It's not true. 0.99

00:14:53.500 But there is billions of dollars worth of wasteful spending.

00:14:58.480 After Doge, nobody can deny that.

00:15:01.580 Yeah.

00:15:03.100 There's never going to be a cutting of the deficit, Roger, without a cutting of spending.

00:15:07.340 And it's very, very simple to understand.

00:15:09.620 You don't have to be an economist to understand it.

00:15:11.480 But no Republican ever seems to want to do it.

00:15:13.860 You've got those two Republicans who voted against him.

00:15:16.440 One of them is Thomas Massie, who I've been going at for the last week, and I'm getting

00:15:21.020 so much blowback from people that he's not a rhino, he's not this.

00:15:24.760 If he wants a grandstand and do that, do it when it's a 10-person majority, not a two-person

00:15:29.360 slim majority where we need every single last Republican to get this bill through because

00:15:34.200 he could single-handedly hold up President Trump's administration for the next three years.

00:15:40.140 That's the way I see it.

00:15:42.040 What is it with these Republicans, Roger, who just don't want to cut spending?

00:15:45.600 What is so hard to just say, let's cut a trillion dollars out of spending over the

00:15:51.800 next, whatever, five years?

00:15:53.300 It doesn't have to be a trillion dollars in a year, but they don't want to cut a single

00:15:57.220 dollar, let alone a trillion.

00:15:59.500 Congressman Massie should recognize the more important, favorable portions of the bill.

00:16:05.380 The bill's not perfect.

00:16:06.580 By the way, I bet there's not a single member of Congress who thinks everything in there

00:16:10.420 is ideal.

00:16:11.180 But the larger stuff, for example, the extension of the across-the-board tax cuts are more important

00:16:19.440 than the issues that he's raising.

00:16:22.460 Republicans talk a great game.

00:16:24.580 That's the problem.

00:16:25.380 We always talk about cutting spending.

00:16:26.800 We talk about it every two or four years.

00:16:29.040 But then we don't actually do it.

00:16:31.460 It's part and parcel of the swamp.

00:16:36.120 You tell the folks back home one thing, use those issues to raise money, big dollars and

00:16:40.920 small.

00:16:41.340 But when you go to Washington, the pressure on you from the special interests to say, oh,

00:16:47.040 don't cut my stuff, cut that guy over there, is just overwhelming.

00:16:52.580 You're right, though.

00:16:53.580 We have a very slim majority.

00:16:56.880 And frankly, if we don't get serious about election integrity, we will lose the House.

00:17:03.060 Our majority could be larger if the House Administration Committee and Speaker Johnson

00:17:08.500 had the courage to unseat Kathy Castor, for example, in Florida's 14th District, because

00:17:15.260 she didn't win, and seat the Republican candidate who did win. 0.70

00:17:18.900 All I've got to do is look at the 54,000 mail-in ballots, the voters for whom have no birth dates

00:17:27.680 or Social Security numbers on their voter applications.

00:17:31.000 Or look at those seats in Orange County, California, where more people voted than are registered to

00:17:37.620 vote.

00:17:38.440 We have to be more like the Democrats.

00:17:40.580 We have to be bloodless, and we have to take the seats that we have rightfully won and not

00:17:47.060 seat Democrats who cheat.

00:17:48.900 That was a wild conspiracy, what you said, Roger.

00:17:51.460 There's no such thing as election fraud.

00:17:53.160 I'll never forget, I had a buddy who went down to Arizona in 2020 to investigate fraud.

00:17:58.060 He got down there, Roger.

00:17:59.060 The first house they sent him to him was a little cottage, maybe 500 square feet.

00:18:03.540 35 people were registered to vote in that house, Roger.

00:18:07.700 That's all you needed to know before you moved on.

00:18:11.120 You had mentioned Mike Johnson, and this seems eerily, and I want to get your take on this,

00:18:15.020 eerily what it felt like, President Trump's first term in 2016 with Paul Ryan.

00:18:21.080 Johnson is not really anywhere to be found right now.

00:18:23.880 Donald Trump doing all his own work was on Capitol Hill to lobby for that bill.

00:18:28.740 Some say he went up voluntarily.

00:18:30.880 He probably did, but at the same time, he didn't want to take an L on the bill.

00:18:34.500 What is Mike Johnson doing right now?

00:18:37.400 Does he want to lose the house?

00:18:40.560 Look, I think he has a near impossible job.

00:18:43.880 He's got he's got a very thin majority.

00:18:47.360 He's got a caucus in which many members don't want to do anything.

00:18:52.480 They just want to raise money for their reelection, get reelected and go home.

00:18:56.740 Joe Biden and his family got caught taking millions.

00:18:59.340 Oh, well, well, let's just let that go.

00:19:01.700 Yeah, they don't want to do anything.

00:19:03.280 And then you have courageous members like Anna Paulina Luna, for example, and others,

00:19:10.540 Tim Burchett, among others, who are very serious about fundamental change

00:19:17.680 and this unique four or two year opportunity we have to get big things done.

00:19:23.840 So I think Johnson's problem here is getting a majority of his caucus for anything is virtually impossible.

00:19:31.720 He's got a very difficult job because the rhinos in the house, they don't want to do anything. 1.00

00:19:38.560 They don't want to change anything.

00:19:40.140 They just want to get reelected.

00:19:41.900 But Johnson knew this going into the job.

00:19:45.460 It's like, why take the job?

00:19:48.380 He knows what went on.

00:19:49.560 He watched what they just did to Kevin McCarthy.

00:19:51.700 He watched three guys in front of him fall off the ballot to become the next speaker of the house.

00:19:56.360 Roger, he knew what he was getting himself into.

00:19:58.660 And, you know, the crazy thing about it all is I asked a friend who's very, very influential in politics on Capitol Hill,

00:20:04.620 works for a very prominent person, who owns Mike Johnson.

00:20:08.880 He said, absolutely nobody.

00:20:11.100 He's just completely lost.

00:20:13.580 If that's the case, Roger, how much of a leash are we supposed to give this guy before he hangs himself and ruins it for everybody?

00:20:22.040 Yeah, I just think you're being too rough on him.

00:20:25.580 I mean, first of all, I think he has a near impossible job.

00:20:30.460 It's I mean, I do think he tries to put together the votes.

00:20:33.740 Now, look, I don't endorse everything he's done.

00:20:36.400 And the the reconciliation, you know, where they kick the can down the road.

00:20:41.680 Pardon me, the the continuing resolution.

00:20:44.620 They told us there was no new spending in there, but it turned out to be millions of dollars of new spending in there.

00:20:50.640 So I'm not I'm not, you know, a rollover for Mike Johnson, but I'm just trying to recognize how difficult his job is to get a majority.

00:20:59.000 I think he works very hard to try to get a majority.

00:21:01.760 I think his problem is with his members, not so much with him.

00:21:05.600 I don't dispute anything you just said.

00:21:07.300 I've heard from all accounts.

00:21:08.280 He's a very nice guy.

00:21:09.020 He's a very honorable person.

00:21:10.480 But, Roger, we need a guy who's going to kick the hell out of people.

00:21:14.000 We need a guy who's going to whip people into shape.

00:21:16.680 We don't need a guy who's just going to go along and get along.

00:21:19.140 And I may be too hard on him.

00:21:20.500 But at the end of the day, we need someone, Roger, to get tough.

00:21:23.960 He's a nice guy.

00:21:25.340 But John, there has to be some enforcement.

00:21:30.680 Politicians by nature, particularly incumbents, of course, all they care about is reelection.

00:21:34.720 So, for example, if Tom Tillis thwarts your efforts to put Ed Martin in as the U.S. attorney in D.C., well, then Tom Tillis needs to face a Republican primary in North Carolina with the full weight of the Trump political operation and the Trump fundraising operation behind a challenger.

00:21:55.540 If the senators see that you can cross Donald Trump and you will pay no political price at home, where Trump's policies are more popular than these incumbent senators, then others will be led to do the same thing.

00:22:11.000 If, however, you get the scalp of Tom Tillis politically, then I think senators will think twice about crossing him.

00:22:19.940 So the sooner that a viable challenger rises and becomes clear that that viable challenger has the resources and full support of the president and his very good political operation and fundraising operation, the sooner senators will think twice against voting against what the people approved in the last election.

00:22:42.620 I will give Johnson credit on one thing, and that was big last week, was ensuring that rhino Mike Lawler from New York voted for the bill and ensuring the rhino Andrew Garbarino passed out drunk in the back of the House floor so that he was unable to vote because he was probably going to vote against it.

00:22:59.400 But that's just what we're told.

00:23:00.660 The truth of the matter is, Roger, this week we find out from Rasmussen, who's the most accurate pollster in this country, Mark Mitchell, that President Trump has the country on the right direction, says 50 percent of Americans for the first time since they started doing this polling.

00:23:17.780 The stock market's up 10 percent.

00:23:19.780 Egg prices are down 55 percent.

00:23:22.160 Inflation is at a five-year low.

00:23:24.000 Gas prices are down, in some cases, 20 percent.

00:23:26.580 We've got $6 trillion in new U.S. investments, and consumer confidence is at a four-year high, and this is just in a few short months by himself.

00:23:37.500 What do you expect over the course of the next few months as it pertains to President Trump?

00:23:41.860 His poll numbers right now are through the roof, and it's not exactly smooth sailing, Roger.

00:23:48.020 We're in a trade war with Canada.

00:23:50.000 We're in a trade war with China.

00:23:51.720 We're in a trade war with Russia.

00:23:53.320 You know, it's not exactly smooth times, but the American people trust this man, and they trust the job that he's doing so far, regardless of all that.

00:24:03.080 First of all, I think the people respect strong leadership.

00:24:06.040 They didn't respect the feckless, incompetent leadership or lack thereof of Joe Biden, who at this point, I think it's pretty clear, was near vegetable for most of his presidency.

00:24:18.640 Maybe a rutabaga or cabbage, I'm not sure which.

00:24:22.780 But then beyond that, the president is out there every day trying to make America both more prosperous and safer.

00:24:31.620 And I think the people, despite the tsunami of disinformation from the lame street media, I think the American people see that.

00:24:40.820 And he continues to chalk up wins.

00:24:44.680 We are we're going to get to a reasonable trade deal with Canada.

00:24:49.360 We're going to get to a reasonable trade deal with with China.

00:24:52.900 We're going to get to a reasonable trade deal for those who want to negotiate in good faith.

00:24:58.800 The EU is a problem.

00:25:00.600 On the other hand, I still think they need us more than we need that.

00:25:04.840 I don't know about you, John, but if I don't have French wine, I guess I could probably get by.

00:25:09.180 I don't know. I'll try to get from California.

00:25:12.280 Exactly. So I think the people are with the president.

00:25:16.940 His poll numbers, when you look at real numbers like those put forward by the folks at Rasmussen, Mark Mitchell,

00:25:25.560 and a handful of other real posters where the numbers aren't cooked by oversampling Democrats or undersampling Trump supporters,

00:25:33.880 I think the American people are still with this president very strongly because he has an agenda.

00:25:39.960 He's not afraid to articulate it, not afraid to fight for it.

00:25:44.600 I think Scott Besson is doing an amazing job.

00:25:48.260 I think Tulsi Gabbard is doing an amazing job.

00:25:51.340 Yes, we're cleaning out the national security apparatus.

00:25:54.200 Another hundred termites were fired this week, people who are undermining the president's agenda.

00:26:03.140 You know how you can tell we're doing great?

00:26:05.120 John Brennan is upset.

00:26:06.660 That's how.

00:26:07.560 John Brennan says it's appalling that Tulsi Gabbard fired two people who were leaking like sieves

00:26:15.320 and fighting the president's anti-war agenda.

00:26:19.700 If that guy's upset, then you know you're doing something right.

00:26:23.580 And for, I saw this yesterday, I find this almost humorous.

00:26:27.260 Dick Blumenthal, the senator from Connecticut, a man who lied about seeing action in the military in Vietnam,

00:26:36.000 actually says Dan Bongino's not qualified to be an FBI agent.

00:26:41.620 Now, Bongino, who's a New York police officer and a former secret service aide, he's not qualified.

00:26:46.080 Hey, Don Nang Dick, you're not qualified to be a U.S. senator because you lied about your military service.

00:26:52.780 Stolen valor, my friend.

00:26:54.180 It's disgraceful.

00:26:55.460 Yeah, that's among the most disgraceful things you can do.

00:27:03.860 I don't know if you saw also, but you brought that up.

00:27:06.200 James Comey was on, I think, CNN with Wolf Blitzer yesterday after his whole little shenanigans,

00:27:13.460 which was, I mean, ridiculous, and he said, what qualifications does Dan Bongino have?

00:27:19.640 He was just a podcaster, right?

00:27:21.640 What's wrong with podcasters, Roger?

00:27:24.060 Well, he was also, I believe, a New York police officer and a secret service agent.

00:27:28.340 So he's more qualified than James Comey was for his position.

00:27:33.220 These people are shameless, and again, Comey will pay no penalty.

00:27:39.540 There'll be no penalty. 0.85

00:27:41.440 The idea that he didn't know what 86 means, I guess he's never been to Brooklyn.

00:27:46.600 I mean, everybody knows what that means.

00:27:50.220 The other thing I have to point out that really I'm happy about, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

00:27:56.220 I think doing an amazing job, first of all, phasing out all of these dangerous toxins,

00:28:04.500 dye, red dye, yellow dye, blue dye, other ingredients that we've been allowing in our processed food,

00:28:11.660 phasing them out, but also this news that they are taking the COVID-19 vaccination

00:28:17.700 for healthy children, healthy pregnant women, and they're removing it from the CDC-recommended immunization schedule.

00:28:26.860 That is enormous.

00:28:28.780 That's huge.

00:28:30.140 RFK is doing an amazing job, and he's doing everything that he said before the election,

00:28:37.980 when he endorsed Donald Trump, that he would do.

00:28:41.000 And the president is clearly giving him his unqualified support to make America healthy again.

00:28:46.340 So I think, along with Tulsi Gabbard, these are among the president's very, very best appointments.

00:28:53.320 You forgot one, too, which, I've got to be honest, has surprised me no end, and it's Marco Rubio.

00:28:58.480 I kind of liked him as a person always, not really as a politician.

00:29:02.160 You remember the whole Gang of Eight bill, the Amnesty Boys, and he was a very big part of that.

00:29:08.080 But I've got to, you know, like I said with Mike Johnson on some things,

00:29:10.900 I've got to give credit where credit is due.

00:29:12.260 People aren't going to like me saying this, but I'm speaking from the truth,

00:29:16.400 and I'm speaking from an observant view.

00:29:19.700 Take it for how you want to take it.

00:29:21.960 Marco Rubio is aligning himself to be a top contender for 2028.

00:29:26.400 Now, a lot of people get mad because they say that it should just automatically be J.D. Vance,

00:29:29.960 and it flows right in there.

00:29:31.620 We all remember what happened with Mike Pence.

00:29:33.520 Now, I'm not saying that's J.D. Vance.

00:29:34.840 I like J.D. Vance a lot.

00:29:35.880 But there's a very long time ahead, and we can't just assume what's going to be.

00:29:41.540 Marco, Roger, has been the number one most surprising person, in my opinion, in that cabinet.

00:29:48.180 Yeah, I'm in total agreement.

00:29:49.580 I had my policy differences with him, although I also always liked him personally

00:29:54.920 and very helpful to my family when my wife was fighting cancer.

00:29:59.820 But I think he's doing an amazing job.

00:30:02.580 I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:30:05.880 I think he's had a change of heart in terms of some of his views.

00:30:09.040 He's always been very, very good on fighting authoritarian communism in this hemisphere.

00:30:15.680 But I think he understands his job is to carry out the president's agenda.

00:30:20.600 He's done that extremely effectively.

00:30:22.800 So I agree with you.

00:30:24.520 I think it's way early for 2028.

00:30:28.100 Anything can happen.

00:30:29.100 I don't know why Steve Bannon keeps insisting that Donald Trump will run for a third term.

00:30:33.700 He's still doing that?

00:30:34.920 Oh, yeah.

00:30:35.260 He was doing it again last week.

00:30:37.080 I guess it's just for the clicks, because we both understand it's unconstitutional.

00:30:41.940 Also, the president said during Meet the Press that he had no interest in seeking a third term,

00:30:46.920 even if he could.

00:30:48.160 I think he's gratified by the number of people who say it'd be a great idea.

00:30:51.460 I think it'd be a great idea.

00:30:52.880 But I don't think it's a politically viable idea.

00:30:56.020 You know, Steve insists that he'll be sworn in and in in January of twenty twenty nine.

00:31:01.580 I I don't see that.

00:31:03.820 And the president, I think, was pretty forthright that although J.D.

00:31:07.880 Vance would certainly have a huge leg up as a sitting vice president, particularly in our party,

00:31:12.480 where we believe in hegemony and the natural order of things.

00:31:16.620 But there are other qualified people, Marco Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:31:22.380 I mean, I think it'll be a lot, a large field.

00:31:26.380 It's also light years away.

00:31:28.160 I think we should focus on changing America for the better right now, winning the off year elections.

00:31:34.280 And then twenty twenty eight can take care of itself.

00:31:36.700 Yes. And you know what? To the audience who gets mad at me or you for or you or I for saying that if we didn't let the process,

00:31:44.260 the primary process play out in twenty sixteen, Roger, and we anointed the next man in line, which was Jeb Bush,

00:31:49.900 we'd have never gotten Donald Trump.

00:31:52.040 Primaries are key to assuring that we're not running some sort of authoritarian dictatorship.

00:31:58.020 Primaries are good for the people to look at and expect candidates who they believe is next best to run the country,

00:32:05.660 not an order of succession. That's not how America works, Roger.

00:32:10.300 Look, I agree. I think I think intra party competition is healthy.

00:32:15.180 And it also prepares the nominee for the general election.

00:32:19.820 You're much sharper if you have a contest for the nomination.

00:32:23.160 I did see a poll online the other day testing various candidates and I saw the name of Ron DeSantis.

00:32:31.860 That's not going to happen. Ron DeSantis has a serious problem here in Florida.

00:32:35.840 He and his wife, I think, have correctly been charged with or I should say attacked for currently under investigation for taking ten million dollars from Medicare

00:32:47.800 that was supposed to pay for health care for the elderly, the poor and the disabled and using it for political purposes. 0.97

00:32:56.800 His supporters could pretend this is not a problem, but it is a problem.

00:33:00.680 And if he's really interested in running for president in 2028, which he seems to be, then why doesn't he run for the Senate in 2026?

00:33:11.440 There's a Senate seat here. He appointed Ashley Moody, attorney general.

00:33:15.840 Very nice lady. Can't think of anything she accomplished as attorney general. 1.00

00:33:19.680 Can't think of anything she's going to accomplish in the U.S. Senate. 0.99

00:33:22.260 Why does the governor run for that seat? Running for president as a former governor might work if you're Ronald Reagan because he was a giant.

00:33:33.560 But Ron is not a giant.

00:33:36.860 I guess you're speaking metaphorically.

00:33:40.420 But no, you're absolutely right. You know, last time I was down in Florida, we did an episode and we spoke about Steve Bannon.

00:33:47.780 And we spoke about Ron DeSantis, all one episode. And I got a lot of good feedback on the episode.

00:33:52.780 But then there were some Bannon trolls that came on over and said that they would never watch my show again because we were attacking.

00:33:58.640 All we're doing is reporting news, Roger.

00:34:01.640 I'm sure that their feelings are hurt. Look, we say what we think on your show.

00:34:06.320 I get this. I get the same crap from the online DeSantis trolls. 0.99

00:34:11.660 I don't really care. To me, you see, loyalty matters. 0.99

00:34:16.080 Ron DeSantis would never have been governor but for Donald Trump.

00:34:20.700 Donald Trump lifted him out of obscurity with a tweeted endorsement that that turned his campaign into a juggernaut.

00:34:28.960 He cruised to the Republican nomination.

00:34:32.440 Trump himself had to come to Florida twice in the last three weeks to drag him across the finish line.

00:34:38.460 He won by twenty five thousand votes out of over eight point nine million cast.

00:34:43.440 Yet he challenged the man who made him governor for president and his attacks on the president were very shrill and very personal.

00:34:53.960 So to me, loyalty matters.

00:34:56.240 And in that event, I think he has exempted himself from future national leadership in the party.

00:35:02.480 He can run if he wants, but I don't think he will get any more traction this time than he got last time.

00:35:07.460 No, he's a very disloyal person. And you're right. Trump made him who he was.

00:35:11.880 He would have never been anything more than a local congressman if it weren't for Donald Trump saving him against Adam Putnam,

00:35:18.800 who everyone knows the Putnam family down in Florida, extremely powerful, wealthy family down in Florida.

00:35:24.660 And Trump just absolutely steamrolled the entire family by going out on the women's saving Ron DeSantis.

00:35:31.300 The entire Republican structure, every Republican county chairman in the state had endorsed Adam Putnam.

00:35:39.140 Every member of the congressional delegation, with the exception of Matt Gaetz, had endorsed Adam Putnam.

00:35:44.860 The every member of the state legislature, both the House and the Senate, where we have the majority, including the speaker, the Senate president.

00:35:51.040 And so Trump rolled tire to fill Ron DeSantis, his campaign coffers and to boost him into the stratosphere as a candidate.

00:36:03.140 And still, Ron struggled with the mayor of Tallahassee, Andrew Gillum, in a very, very close race,

00:36:11.880 largely because Ron DeSantis doesn't know much about state issues, at least he didn't at the time.

00:36:17.360 He'd been preparing for a U.S. Senate race, had announced for the Senate when it appeared that Marco Rubio was going to retire.

00:36:24.040 Then Rubio reversed himself.

00:36:26.260 So I really think that he owes his governorship to Donald Trump.

00:36:31.680 And therefore, he should have given Trump the courtesy of running for another term.

00:36:35.860 The president made it clear that he was running.

00:36:38.120 But instead, he challenged him.

00:36:41.100 He spent three hundred million dollars and he got no votes.

00:36:46.040 He got ignominiously crushed in the Iowa caucuses.

00:36:49.540 He got crushed in New Hampshire.

00:36:51.440 He got crushed in the Florida primary.

00:36:53.300 If you go back and look at it.

00:36:54.640 It's interesting.

00:36:55.240 He went to a WWE event the other day.

00:36:58.860 And rather than the kind of raucous welcome that Donald Trump gets when he goes to these UFC events,

00:37:05.520 the governor was booed by the crowd. 1.00

00:37:08.280 People were yelling, you suck. 1.00

00:37:09.840 So the idea that he's popular or more popular than Donald Trump in Florida, just not true. 0.99

00:37:18.500 Before we move on to Ron DeSantis, you bring up a good point.

00:37:21.600 Casey DeSantis, his wife, is looking to maybe run for governor. 1.00

00:37:25.060 You'd mentioned Matt Gaetz.

00:37:26.500 And Matt Gaetz had tweeted a video out the other day.

00:37:28.220 I don't know if he was trolling or not.

00:37:30.320 Casey DeSantis would be a great governor.

00:37:32.780 He's good friends with Byron Donalds.

00:37:34.500 Byron has the support of President Trump.

00:37:36.620 What's up with that?

00:37:37.440 Well, in defense of Matt, I think what he actually said is that that she's more talented than her husband.

00:37:44.680 And if she ran, she'd be formidable.

00:37:47.320 He's right on the first point.

00:37:49.680 I also saw that like a day later, he posted something harshly critical of the DeSantis is regarding the the hope campaign that they seem to have siphoned Medicare funds to.

00:38:05.580 So, look, I like Matt Gaetz.

00:38:08.460 He's got a very lively show on OAN.

00:38:10.760 I watch it.

00:38:11.420 I like it.

00:38:12.300 I think he does good work.

00:38:14.560 Maybe he was looking for attention.

00:38:16.300 I don't know.

00:38:18.460 You know, Matt could be a viable candidate himself if he chose to run.

00:38:22.300 Don't think he's going to do that.

00:38:24.540 Somebody should challenge Ashley Moody in the primary, in my opinion.

00:38:28.100 Some Trump supporter.

00:38:29.260 She certainly wasn't one.

00:38:30.700 She was a DeSantis supporter.

00:38:32.140 I guess we're going to have to wait and see.

00:38:34.960 Yeah, it'll be an interesting race.

00:38:36.220 And like I said, Byron Donalds has the support of President Trump.

00:38:40.940 President Trump doing something interesting.

00:38:42.880 He issued some pardons yesterday.

00:38:45.500 One of them was of a sheriff who was just another victim of, it seems, the Biden crime family. 0.54

00:38:53.480 Yeah, this is incredible.

00:38:54.960 It's an incredible act of both mercy and justice.

00:38:57.520 My hat's really off to the president.

00:39:01.180 Sheriff Scott Jenkins was targeted by the Biden Justice Department for several reasons.

00:39:07.360 One, he had clashed with Governor Northam, the Democrat governor of Virginia, over draconian new gun control laws that the governor wanted to put in place.

00:39:19.240 Secondarily, he had joined with other sheriffs calling to have our southern border sealed and done so quite publicly.

00:39:27.860 And in his own county, he had the audacity to arrest and seek to deport illegals who were dangerous in his county.

00:39:37.560 But I think his real sin, after he was targeted for all those reasons, they put two FBI informants into his department and they got a guy who was charged with other crimes to testify falsely against him.

00:39:55.280 I think his real sin was getting caught on an FBI wiretap talking to several other sheriffs about looking into Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:40:04.860 So they railroaded this sheriff.

00:40:07.900 They claimed that his collecting campaign contributions in return for giving folks this auxiliary sheriff status, which is, by the way, extremely common in Virginia and across the country.

00:40:23.320 It doesn't give these people any authority.

00:40:25.600 You're a booster of the sheriff.

00:40:27.280 Never put a penny in his own pocket.

00:40:29.620 The money went to his campaign.

00:40:30.900 All very legal.

00:40:32.180 He wasn't allowed to argue any of that at trial.

00:40:34.920 In fact, the judge wouldn't allow him to mount any defense whatsoever.

00:40:39.480 So he was railroaded.

00:40:41.540 He was looking at 10 years.

00:40:43.560 And here's the worst part.

00:40:45.080 They were going to put the sheriff, who locked up a lot of bad guys, in the in general population in a federal penitentiary in Virginia with drug dealers and murderers, where I think, frankly, his life would have been in danger.

00:40:59.660 So the president examined this case, saw that it was yet another example of weaponized lawfare.

00:41:08.360 There's a fair.

00:41:09.120 Sheriff Jenkins is very famous because he actually followed a one man crime spree, a man who went across three counties shooting at citizens with an AK-47.

00:41:22.200 And in a shootout and in an exchange of 19 rounds, Sheriff Jenkins shot and killed this guy before he was able to kill people.

00:41:30.120 So, I mean, he's a courageous, honest guy.

00:41:33.520 Another example of lawfare by the Biden Justice Department.

00:41:37.380 And now, thanks to this incredible act of mercy and justice by President Donald Trump, the sheriff is not going to prison.

00:41:45.840 He's been fully and unconditionally pardoned.

00:41:48.600 He was on my show last night.

00:41:50.980 We're going to post it shortly.

00:41:53.000 But as you know, we're on every night at 8 p.m. at WABCradio.com.

00:41:58.520 WABCradio.com.

00:41:59.920 Drop into the Stone Zone every night at 8.

00:42:02.680 Check it out.

00:42:03.280 So, Roger, as always, it's great talking with you.

00:42:06.860 We'll have you back here once again next week when you're back from your vacationing.

00:42:10.940 I'm just kidding.

00:42:11.580 You don't take vacations.

00:42:12.620 You work perhaps harder than anybody I know.

00:42:15.400 Roger, we'll see you next week, brother.

00:42:17.160 Great to be with you.

00:42:18.000 Thanks, John.

00:42:18.740 Thanks to Roger Stone, folks.

00:42:19.900 And thank you all for being with us today here on The Great America Show.

00:42:22.320 We hope to see you back here tomorrow for The Great America Show, where our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.

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00:42:30.300 Until then, may God bless you.

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The Great America Show - May 28, 2025

President Trump just de-escalated what could have been the start of WWIII

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