The Great America Show - PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS THE U.S. HAS NEVER BEEN IN AS MUCH DANGER AS RIGHT NOW

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us for

00:00:05.420 this special episode. Our guest is the 45th president of the United States, President Donald

00:00:11.620 J. Trump. President Trump is, in my opinion, the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln.

00:00:17.820 No president accomplished as much as Donald Trump in four years and did so despite the opposition

00:00:23.600 of the radicalized Democrat Party, the liberal rhino wing of his own party, and of course the

00:00:30.480 deep state that aligned itself with the Democrats and corporatist media. His political opponent,

00:00:37.040 Hillary Clinton, ordered her campaign in league with elements of the Obama administration 0.86

00:00:42.260 to carry out a conspiracy to smear Trump the candidate and as president. The trial of her

00:00:49.020 2016 presidential campaign attorney, Michael Sussman, is now underway in the nation's capital

00:00:54.860 and it's already revealed the political forces arrayed against President Trump and his administration.

00:01:02.460 It was clearly an attempted coup, a conspiracy to overthrow his presidency. We now know that his

00:01:09.260 own attorney general, William Barr, played a role in denying Americans a fair election in 2020,

00:01:15.680 a critical role. Attorney General Barr had the opportunity and the duty, in my opinion, to call out the

00:01:23.380 Democrat presidential candidate, Joe Biden, when Biden lied to the American people in the final

00:01:29.740 presidential debate of 2020. Barr knew he was lying and he chose to remain silent. The attorney general said

00:01:37.900 he didn't want to intervene in the election, but he did just that because by saying nothing about Biden's

00:01:43.940 lies, Barr effectively intervened in favor of Biden. Otherwise, we would now be in the second term of

00:01:51.280 President Donald Trump. History was changed. Trump and the nation were cheated and now millions of

00:01:58.080 Americans are suffering the consequences. Runaway inflation, markets and turmoil, shortages of food,

00:02:04.780 baby formula and sky-high prices for gasoline and diesel have many Americans reeling. Almost 80 percent of

00:02:12.080 Americans now say the country is headed in the wrong direction. And there's a mounting drumbeat in the

00:02:18.420 Republican Party and MAGA, including American first conservatives and independents for President Trump

00:02:25.080 to run again in 2024. Will he or won't he? Mr. President, thank you for joining us here on The Great

00:02:33.320 America Show. It is it is just absolutely delightful to talk with you. Well, me too. And I appreciate it,

00:02:40.560 Lou. And you're the greatest. You really I miss you on television. I miss you a lot. And I've I hear

00:02:47.680 your podcast is hot as a pistol and I'm not surprised. Well, that's very kind of you and I appreciate it.

00:02:53.660 I want to start out, if I may, with this this election, your record of wins of those you've endorsed.

00:03:00.840 I mean, that's an astounding record. And then I hear people criticizing because they think you

00:03:06.200 might lose here. You might lose there. Your thoughts. Well, it's pretty incredible. I mean,

00:03:11.420 we had tremendous wins in Ohio and Pennsylvania. I think he's going to pull it out. But I also

00:03:16.560 endorse, as you know, the governor, Mastriano, and they don't like to talk about that. And they don't

00:03:22.520 like to talk about the victories. And, you know, where they see a possible sore spot, because I don't

00:03:27.660 just endorse people that are up front. That'd be easy. I'd love to do that. I endorse people that

00:03:32.380 are in fifth place in some cases. And in some cases, as you know, they won. But we've had

00:03:38.300 tremendous. One of them is Ted Buddies. Fantastic. But people didn't know him in North Carolina. So

00:03:43.360 he was polling at four or five percent. And I endorsed him and he went up and he won by a landslide

00:03:48.740 just two weeks ago for the Senate. So, you know, we've had a tremendous run. And yeah,

00:03:54.360 the papers, the media, I call it the fake news, it doesn't give us, I don't mind taking hits if I

00:04:01.420 deserve it, but they don't give us the credit that we're due. And I say we, because it's a lot

00:04:05.420 of people. It's, you know, make America great again, MAGA. It's America first. But you know,

00:04:10.500 I'm not allowed to have a loss, Lou, right? So if I have one loss, they'll say he's lost. He could be

00:04:16.740 87 and three and you'll have a loss. You know, in Texas, I was 33 and nothing, 33 and nothing. And

00:04:23.900 what they do is they probably don't cover it for the most part. I don't, you've never heard 33 and

00:04:29.520 0, but, and we have a big race, the attorney general, we have a couple of other races where

00:04:34.760 the endorsement was great. They took a big leap, but they had a runoff. And now I think they're

00:04:39.620 going to all win their races. There's like four of them, but 33 and 0 in Texas. And I'm not sure I read

00:04:45.560 one story about it. I can tell you if I was, uh, 32 and one, I would be, uh, excoriated for having

00:04:54.400 lost one, but that's the way it is. It is the way it is. And when you call it the fake news,

00:05:00.020 as you've been calling it from almost the inception, you're still right. Uh, this is a remarkable

00:05:06.240 corporatist media. Uh, it's crazy what, uh, we're seeing in this, in this media. Uh, I heard one.

00:05:13.440 And yeah, it's hard to believe that those, yeah, it's hard to believe those people though

00:05:16.600 are radical left. I mean, I mean, I know so many of the people in the corporate world

00:05:20.340 and they're not radical left. If anything, they're right of Attila, the hun. And I don't

00:05:26.600 get it because, you know, I think they're just liberal. I don't even think it comes. I think

00:05:30.100 they scare them into being liberal. If you want to know the truth, cause I know these people,

00:05:33.880 I think you're exactly right. And, uh, and when that, uh, when you're talking about scaring

00:05:38.880 the Dickens out of or intimidating CEOs in corporate America, go to BLM and get your latest,

00:05:45.540 uh, you know, uh, alert from the Marxist left, uh, that runs BLM and they're part of the Marxist

00:05:53.940 Democrat party. Uh, I want to turn if I may to, to the issue of this economy and this administration,

00:06:02.780 this Biden economy, we've just gone through a period of 14 days, 11 record highs and the national

00:06:12.480 media isn't even covering it. Gas prices at an all time high and rising diesel over $6 around the

00:06:21.740 country, a gallon. And this administration puts out one buffoon after the other, who doesn't know 0.78

00:06:28.360 what he or she is talking about when it comes to either the economy or how to operate an automobile. 0.86

00:06:34.440 It's, it's remarkable that this administration gets a pass from this corporatist media. Uh,

00:06:42.580 but otherwise they wouldn't be in the white house, would they? Well, it's an amazing thing because 0.71

00:06:47.060 oil prices now, as you know, are at the highest in the history of the world. Okay. We have the highest

00:06:52.500 by far, you know, I had a dollar 87 a gallon. Think of that. And now we're at six, seven, eight,

00:07:00.300 nine, not just California either. You know, usually it's like in California, but not everywhere else.

00:07:05.540 It's, it's tremendously high five and six and $7 and it's going much higher. And they think of it

00:07:12.180 two weeks ago or last week, they canceled two big oil leases. Uh, they don't want the oil and that

00:07:18.040 they're going to, they're going to Venezuela and trying to negotiate deals in Venezuela where we

00:07:23.400 have more than any other nation under our feet. We were energy independent two years ago. We were

00:07:29.160 energy independent. We had inexpensive energy. We had a dollar 87. Think of it. It even went lower

00:07:36.560 than that. At some point I had to get it up because the oil companies were going to go out of business.

00:07:40.600 It was too low. And we were, we were pumping energy like nobody's ever seen before. We were bigger

00:07:46.240 than Russia, bigger than Saudi Arabia. And we would have been bigger than both combined within

00:07:51.660 a short period of time. And now he stopped that. It's not even believable. And do you see what's

00:07:57.660 going on? Another thing, uh, you would have never had Ukraine and Russia. That would have never happened.

00:08:04.400 It would have never happened. It was not something that was even a possibility. And I spoke to Putin

00:08:10.160 about it. Uh, I had plenty of conversations with him. Would he have liked it? Yes. It was never going

00:08:16.720 to happen. And to see all the people dying and all that death and destruction is horrible.

00:08:21.760 It is horrible. And when you, when you see the, the Senate 11, uh, 11 Republicans, that's all who

00:08:31.420 refused to vote, uh, for the $50 billion aid package on top of the, uh, at least 10 to $12 billion more

00:08:40.640 that we've given an aid already. Uh, what, what is your reaction as you see that kind of support for a,

00:08:48.300 what is arguably one of the, has been one of the most, uh, corrupt, uh, governments and countries

00:08:54.880 in the world. Well, they gave 40 and they picked up another 14 or 15 previous. So it's like 55

00:09:02.540 billion, which is a tremendous, that's as big as Russia's entire military budget was

00:09:07.980 the year before this thing got started. And it's, it's a tremendous amount. I will say this,

00:09:14.300 uh, Europe gives a tiny fraction of that. Europe, you would agree is affected far more than we are.

00:09:20.940 And Europe, if you look at what they give, it's a fraction, a small fraction of that.

00:09:26.240 And on top of that, Europe kills the United States on trade. You know, they don't take our cars.

00:09:31.460 They don't want our agriculture. They don't want anything. And Europe is almost as bad as China on 0.98

00:09:37.160 trade. So they get us on trade. And then we go in and, you know, NATO, I don't have to tell you,

00:09:42.580 I was the one that got them to pay. I said, you have to pay or we're not going to pay.

00:09:45.860 We were funding NATO, the whole thing, but think of it. They treat us badly on trade very badly.

00:09:51.900 And I was straightening it out and doing really well on it too. And then, you know,

00:09:56.180 then we had the rigged election. And so that ended, but we were doing great on that. We were doing great

00:10:01.100 with China. We were doing great with everybody, but, uh, you know, it seems so unfair that we agree

00:10:07.640 to pay $55 billion. And then they pay, uh, when I say a fraction of that, I mean, a small fraction

00:10:16.000 of that. And they should be told, we're not getting, we're not going to do anything until

00:10:20.540 you do it. And they'll do it. But somebody has to tell them to do it.

00:10:24.360 There has to be a leader, doesn't there?

00:10:26.880 There has to be a leader. That's true.

00:10:28.500 A hundred and two thousand of our troops are in Europe right now. The highest number

00:10:35.720 since 2005, going to your point on NATO, uh, the support is obviously to come from the United

00:10:45.400 States. Uh, the rest of NATO isn't, uh, boosted that high. He's, uh, president Biden has raised

00:10:52.860 that number by 30% in just the last year. And he is talking about considering putting U S troops

00:11:01.240 into Kiev to protect the U S embassy, your, your reaction, uh, ridiculous. And to have that number

00:11:11.940 of troops over there, that's an army and to, you know, that's like an economic development project.

00:11:18.080 So in Germany, as an example, you know, this, you saw this happen. I was at that. We were at

00:11:23.500 five, I guess we were at 52,000 troops, maybe 54,000 at the max, but we're 52,000 troops.

00:11:31.080 And I took out 25,000. And part of the reason, because Germany treats us terribly, terribly on

00:11:36.720 trade, just absolutely. Plus they weren't paid up in NATO. They were at 1%. They're supposed to be

00:11:42.200 at 2%. And even 2% is too low. So I took out 25,000 troops and I understand they put them back.

00:11:50.640 And this is like a city, you know, 25,000 people, that's troops. That's now you add the wives, 0.99

00:11:57.180 the children, you add other things, you add a lot of different things to that in many cases,

00:12:00.840 but you're talking about a city of people. It's an economic development project, just what they pay.

00:12:07.240 So we pay them a lot. And then they go in and Germany was very much opposed to that. But I said,

00:12:14.460 you got to pay your NATO bill. You're not paid up. You're at 1%. You're supposed to be at 2%,

00:12:18.700 you know, et cetera, et cetera. To put that many people in. And now we're, I think the highest level

00:12:26.220 for many years. Another example of South Korea, I got them to pay billions of dollars because we're

00:12:32.180 defending them, as you know, against a very tough guy. And I got them to pay billions and billions

00:12:38.340 of dollars. And the deal was after the election, I was going back, they were going to pay a lot more

00:12:44.340 because we have 32,000 soldiers over there and you have Kim Jong-un across the line, right? And,

00:12:50.840 you know, it's serious stuff and he's got serious weaponry and he does have nukes, et cetera.

00:12:56.040 And I said, well, what are you, what are they paying? This is a rich nation, by the way,

00:13:00.920 South Korea, very rich. They took our television business, our boating business, meaning, you know,

00:13:05.700 make the big ships. You know, they took a lot of business from us, but they're a very rich nation.

00:13:10.820 And I got them to pay billions of dollars. I said, you got to pay up. And they weren't happy about it.

00:13:16.140 They went down kicking and screaming. Now the Biden administration basically just gave them a

00:13:20.880 long-term free pass of on, uh, almost free pass, relatively free pass on paying for, uh, protection.

00:13:30.000 It's really for military protection. No wonder they became rich. You don't have to worry about

00:13:34.500 the military, but it was terrible. And I, I, they just gave them a long-term free pass.

00:13:40.000 And all they had to do is ask. I was all set to sign a tremendous deal. They were going to pay,

00:13:46.100 in my opinion, $5 billion a year, but I got a lot. I got, you added up over the years. I got

00:13:53.100 billions of dollars from them. They weren't happy about it, but they paid, but there was never

00:13:58.380 anybody that asked it's for like 82 years. We've given them a free pass and I got them to pay

00:14:06.540 significant money, but there was nobody to follow up. You were the only world leader calling for

00:14:13.340 balanced payments throughout the global trade system, which is what every leader should have

00:14:18.320 been calling for every economist, every single finance minister and, and, uh, treasury secretary

00:14:26.800 in the world and every central bank. And yet you were met with resistance again on that, uh,

00:14:34.360 on an unbelievable dimension, all of wall street, corporate America coming after you, uh, having

00:14:41.560 defined as well, the free traders, uh, who were pitching this country's wealth, uh, out

00:14:46.560 the door by the trillions over the course of the last 50 years. It's just outrageous to

00:14:52.040 see. Now the president, Senator Pat Toomey, Pat Toomey was a disaster. This guy, uh, the

00:14:58.280 senator, he wouldn't run because I wouldn't endorse him. Uh, he wanted to, from Pennsylvania,

00:15:02.820 he wanted to run. I wouldn't endorse him. He fought me every inch of the way on the tariffs.

00:15:07.360 And I said, so let me ask you a question. If China charges us a hundred percent tariff

00:15:12.180 and we charge them nothing, do you think that's fair? Yes. Why? Cause it's free trade. I said,

00:15:17.860 why is it free? Because that's the way it's been. Oh really? So if China charges a hundred,

00:15:22.580 why can't I charge them 50 or 75 or a hundred or more than a hundred? He said, can't do that. That's

00:15:29.620 not free trade. I went through these arguments and I used to say, I can't believe it, but I did say

00:15:34.660 if they charge us 150% tariff, can we charge them 25%? No, that's not free trade. And I'm saying

00:15:41.800 there's something wrong here. And we have guys like that and they're there to protect China. 0.99

00:15:47.840 It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And China, meanwhile, is helping itself to our intellectual 1.00

00:15:56.320 property, our technology, something like $600 billion a year. The theft goes on. And so does

00:16:03.880 the insane trade relationship that we have talking about trillion dollar down deficits.

00:16:10.260 By the way, Lou, we did great with China, you know, I put 25% tariffs on their steel and 50% 0.99

00:16:17.420 and we saved the steel. The steel industry was dead. It was going to close. We wouldn't have had a

00:16:22.700 steel plant in the whole country. And I put, I have steel people come up to me and they hug me when

00:16:27.520 they see me. They said, you saved our business. The washing machine industry, believe it or not,

00:16:31.960 they would dump washing machines. I put a tax, I think it was 25% or maybe more, but I put a tax on

00:16:38.440 washing machines that are being dumped in our country by, believe it in South Korea, but they

00:16:42.800 were dumping the people from Whirlpool came to see me in from Ohio. I said, can't do that. I dump,

00:16:48.620 that's a thriving company right now because of it. You know, I saved it. I saved a lot of companies

00:16:53.960 and, you know, tariffs if properly used are phenomenal, but basically if you didn't use them,

00:17:00.060 all these countries would just be, they were eating us alive. We, we had things going and we

00:17:05.400 made a great deal with China. It helped our farmers took in billions and billions of dollars.

00:17:11.160 I gave $28 billion to the farmers over a two year period because they were screwed by China on 0.99

00:17:17.740 agriculture. And it was, the number was 28 billion. So I took $28 billion out and we distributed to all

00:17:24.640 the farmers in the country, most of them, uh, in the country, because that's what happened to them.

00:17:29.720 And no, they couldn't even believe it. They didn't even want it though. You know,

00:17:32.600 the farmers are great. They just wanted a level playing field, but they were taken advantage of

00:17:38.240 by China. And out of the many, many billions of dollars, I gave 28 billion to the farmers because

00:17:45.240 they were taken advantage of, they were really hurt by China. Nobody knows these stories.

00:17:50.960 Well, I, I know a few of them. Uh, I got, I had the pleasure of reporting on it because,

00:17:55.700 because you were the only president, uh, in the last half century to pay attention to trade balances

00:18:04.980 and to insist that national security, uh, be recognized as sitting foundationally on the

00:18:12.440 strength of the economy. Uh, and that made a huge difference for the country. And, and now it's

00:18:19.100 gone a wasting, I'm afraid. Uh, and we had a, we had a balance. Yeah. We had an, I call it an

00:18:25.380 imbalance, not a trade, but I call it an imbalance, but we had a trade imbalance with China of 600

00:18:30.800 billion, not million, 600 million is a lot, right? $600 billion a year, a trade imbalance. And in other

00:18:40.040 words, they would make, cause I, I call it make, they would make 600 billion. You know, a lot of

00:18:45.220 people say, Oh, it's not really a cost. Those people are wise guys or not very smart. Uh, we

00:18:52.120 would have a trade imbalance with China of $600 billion a year. Incredible. But I took in billions

00:18:57.700 of dollars. Not one president ever took in one dime from China, never a dime. Right. Well, I want to,

00:19:03.800 I want to turn to President Xi, uh, and President Putin, both men are rumored, you know, them both

00:19:12.260 well, both men are rumored to be seriously ill, uh, fighting serious illness. Uh, I don't know

00:19:20.400 whether that's true or if it's disinformation, but what are your thoughts about that prospect,

00:19:26.360 uh, and, um, what they are doing right now is strategic allies. They were not yet

00:19:33.800 strategic partners. They, they worked together, but now they are, uh, a, a solid, uh, strategic

00:19:41.400 alliance between Russia and China. So one of the things I learned very early in life is you never

00:19:47.900 want to force Russia and China into a partnership. And Obama did that. Actually, Obama did it with

00:19:53.960 Biden. I don't think Biden had anything to do with it. I think actually it just happened. Okay. But,

00:20:00.020 but let's say Obama did it. He forced them in and it was because of the oil, but they forced them into

00:20:04.920 an alliance, a partnership. They're not natural partners, but now they are partners. And, uh,

00:20:10.420 that was a terrible thing. But if you look at, uh, Putin, so important, it would have never happened

00:20:17.700 Ukraine and Russia. If we had the Trump administration, it was not anything and it didn't

00:20:24.160 happen. And remember, I'm the only one where there wasn't a problem with Russia, despite the Russian 1.00

00:20:28.940 hoax, which made it harder. Now the Russian hoax has been exposed to something that was set up by 0.91

00:20:34.040 the Democrats and crooked Hillary. I mean, think of it. It's totally exposed. Now they all admit it.

00:20:39.860 Now they're all pointing fingers at each other. So we went through two and a half, three years of

00:20:44.020 horror show, which was actually very dangerous for our country. And despite that, but you take a look

00:20:50.900 at, it's an incredible thing. What's happening and coming out of these Durham trials. It's very

00:20:54.860 interesting when you see it too bad. Uh, they didn't do it a lot sooner to be honest, because

00:20:59.360 that affected the election, but we didn't need it. We got 75 million votes. That's far more than we

00:21:04.520 needed. You know, nobody ever got 75, no president ever got 75 million votes. We have a third world

00:21:11.560 nation on elections, but Putin would have never done this. And if you think about it, Bush lost Georgia,

00:21:19.440 Obama lost Crimea, Obama lost everything. Cause you know, frankly, the whole thing is going to be

00:21:27.960 eventually taken by Russia. How much, I mean, they pounded every city to the ground. Okay. At what 0.99

00:21:33.920 point do they say, well, what we do, what are we doing here? Every city has been pounded to the

00:21:39.940 ground and destroyed, meaning everyone that they've been doing and they're not coming out good Russia. 0.67

00:21:45.680 They're coming out very bad, but Putin would have actually been helped because he would have never

00:21:52.880 done this, but Obama lost the whole thing. But if you look at it, uh, during my term, Russia got 0.55

00:21:59.460 nothing. When you say they'd lost their pipeline. When you say he would never have done it. Why do

00:22:06.720 you say that? Yeah. Because I talked to him about it and, uh, numerous times I got, I knew him very well,

00:22:12.620 maybe not as well as I know you, but I knew him very well. I knew him very well. Uh, got along with

00:22:19.080 him. I think he's a different guy today. He really seems to be different, even visually different.

00:22:24.740 Uh, and I don't know what that is, but I knew him very well. I got along with him and he understood

00:22:29.420 me and I understood him. And, uh, he knows that he could not have done that. And they didn't do it

00:22:35.260 for four years. There was no talk that he was going to go in an attack. In fact, when I saw that he was

00:22:40.700 putting soldiers after the election being rigged and I was watching from a distance, all of a sudden,

00:22:47.160 when I saw that, I thought he was negotiating, putting 200,000 troops on the border. I said,

00:22:52.460 well, that's a good way to negotiate. I thought he was negotiating and, uh, turned out that he wasn't.

00:22:58.940 And in many ways that could have been settled very easily. They would have taken certain things

00:23:03.720 that they already had like Crimea. You know, you could have made a deal and you would have had a 0.51

00:23:09.160 country. Now, all of that destruction of these beautiful buildings, some of these buildings

00:23:13.680 were so magnificent, but more importantly, the death, the tremendous death that's been caused

00:23:18.320 there. It's incomprehensible. It really is. It's not even comprehensible. Now it would have never

00:23:23.720 happened. And he understood why I don't want to go into it. I can't go into it probably very easily,

00:23:28.520 but he would, he understood that there was a big penalty to pay if he did do that. And he wouldn't,

00:23:33.380 he would never have done it. Now that doesn't mean he wouldn't have waited until the next president,

00:23:37.520 which I guess in this case is what he did. He waited. Uh, but, uh, but even then he,

00:23:44.180 they could have made a deal. They should have made a deal. This should not because now everybody

00:23:47.720 loses no matter what happens. Everybody's lost. You've lost all those people. And, and how do you

00:23:53.300 rebuild Ukraine? Every city is like a pancake. Well, Zelensky at the world economic forum was saying

00:23:59.800 that the Western nations need to provide him $5 billion, uh, a month, uh, to, uh, to rebuild and put

00:24:08.880 it squarely on, of course, uh, the, uh, the European nations with the world economic forum, i.e. the United

00:24:16.680 States. Uh, this is, and I, you know, my heart goes out to those people, uh, but this is an

00:24:23.920 extraordinary administration because they, at the same time knew by new that there were red lines

00:24:31.140 for Vladimir Putin and still through the first year of his presidency was pushing for NATO to bring in

00:24:39.300 Ukraine and no one talks about it, but there is great responsibility on the part of this

00:24:45.780 administration. Uh, there, the state department, uh, the, the, the white house it's, it's, it's 0.62

00:24:52.720 incalculable the damage they did. Uh, and I realize he may have done it anyway, but the fact is they

00:24:58.560 were pursuing policies that were just wrong headed. Well, and even a statement yesterday,

00:25:03.880 when he blurted out with respect to China, you can be just as tough or tougher than that

00:25:08.560 without having to put everybody in a very bad position. It's very dangerous. This country has

00:25:14.040 never been in a position like it is. We're not respected anymore. They don't take even phone calls from

00:25:20.780 the leader. And it's never been in such danger as it is right now. You know, I was saying to a group

00:25:28.880 the other day, nuclear was not a word we ever had to discuss. You know, I rebuilt our nuclear power.

00:25:34.520 I rebuilt our whole military. We have tremendous nuclear power, but if it's ever used, it's going to

00:25:40.880 be the most devastating day in history by a factor of thousands. And I never thought I'd hear the day

00:25:48.520 where major countries like this are throwing out the word so cavalierly like Russia. Every time he

00:25:54.740 talks to that, he talks about how he's a great nuclear power, right? And he is, he's got, you know,

00:25:59.960 1700 nuclear weapons and we have a similar amount. They did destructive and China has a lot, not nearly 0.98

00:26:08.440 as many, but they will within five years, they'll have as many. And, uh, to be throwing around this

00:26:14.940 word is it's just something you don't do. And I've, we've never been in a position like this.

00:26:20.600 I mean, there is a good chance that something really bad could happen. And that was just something

00:26:25.360 that even when I was negotiating with Kim Jong-un, because, you know, supposedly we were ready to go

00:26:30.520 to war. If you listen to Obama, we're going to go to war with him and that they have plenty of nukes,

00:26:35.660 but I never considered that to be the same kind of danger. This is a danger that we've never been in.

00:26:41.460 And, and, you know, you look at the inflation and you look at the border and you look at the way

00:26:45.660 we pulled out of Afghanistan. I believe that the pull out of Afghanistan was the lowest point in

00:26:50.600 the history of our country, even though the press hardly covers it at all. It was the lowest point.

00:26:55.780 And I, I believe when Putin saw that, he said, these people are incompetent. This is my time to go.

00:27:01.960 The weakness has never been much of a deterrent, has it?

00:27:05.940 No, it's never been a good deterrent.

00:27:07.620 As, as we, as we look at this, this moment in history, a food shortage, a formula shortage,

00:27:17.660 a gasoline shortage, when you were facing shortages and disruptions, whether it be the,

00:27:23.100 the, the epidemic and all that you had to do to restore some form of normality,

00:27:32.860 you went to the private sector, use the defense production act, this facing these shortages and

00:27:39.780 this crisis, and it is a crisis by any definition. This president has chosen to go to, as you said

00:27:46.980 earlier, to Venezuela, turning to get a formula from Germany everywhere, but being self-reliant and

00:27:56.320 creating independence rather than looking for the handouts that this, this government has now

00:28:02.220 returned to as a way of governing. Your thoughts?

00:28:08.720 Well, how about yesterday? I thought it was pretty sad when we have these massive military planes

00:28:13.360 flying in baby formula, milk, but baby formula into the United States so we can feed our children. 0.89

00:28:20.700 This isn't supposed to happen to the United States. And that took place. Now it's a, it's a

00:28:26.360 terrible time for our country. You know, it's interesting when we needed ventilators within

00:28:30.360 three months, I had them built. We were the king of ventilators. We were, I was, I was giving them

00:28:36.560 and selling them to other countries, uh, when they needed the ventilator. And it's a very complicated,

00:28:41.920 more, more so than a car, you know, they're very complicated machines actually. And we opened that

00:28:48.180 up. We got that done. The gowns, the, this, the, that, the goggles, the masks, we did a great job.

00:28:53.380 You know, we did a great job in COVID and we never got the credit. We got therapeutically what we did,

00:28:59.640 uh, the vaccines in nine months, instead of seven years, 12 years, they said it was going to take

00:29:06.160 got it done in nine months, saved tens of millions of people worldwide. You know, you look at what we

00:29:13.060 did, but therapeutically with the Regeneron and all of the different things, never got the credit.

00:29:18.080 We deserved operation warp speed was a tremendous success. And people admit that even the other

00:29:23.760 side admits that, but it was beyond, I mean, some people say there's never been anything

00:29:28.260 built. There's never been anything like operation warp speed. And you know, it's an incredible thing

00:29:33.860 because actually, uh, more people died during this administration. I mean, look at the last year

00:29:40.160 versus the year before more people died under Biden. He was going to come out and do the great job.

00:29:44.960 But the, the fact is he did a very poor job under H1N1. And, uh, you know, that took place. Uh,

00:29:53.300 he called it N1H1 is actually H1N1 and H comes before that's the way you do it, right? H comes before

00:30:00.100 N. So it's not hard to remember, but, uh, that was a flu that we had during their administration.

00:30:05.720 And it was much lesser than what this was obviously, but it was, you know, severe and they did a very poor

00:30:12.320 job, but he was going to do this great job, but more people died than they did the previous year,

00:30:17.960 which was sort of incredible. And they had the advantage of understanding the disease,

00:30:21.660 knowing the disease, you know, when we got hit with it, nobody knew what was, what was going on.

00:30:25.700 What is this? This dust, what is this dust that came in from China? Yeah. And China did some 0.96

00:30:31.740 disservice to us and to the world. I'll tell you when this, when this happened, what China did 0.99

00:30:37.460 to the world? A lot of people think it was purposely, I don't, but when they, I think it

00:30:43.340 was gross incompetence, but nevertheless, I'll tell you what wasn't incompetent though. They

00:30:47.940 didn't rule it out for China until recently. Now they're having pretty big problems, but they did 0.97

00:30:53.940 keep it in Wuhan. They did keep it in that area, right? Well, in Shanghai, 25 million people,

00:31:01.400 400 million people throughout Eastern China still remain in lockdown and their economy is torn up as

00:31:10.240 a result. I want to turn, if I may, to the Sussman trial, because as you're talking about what was now

00:31:16.580 obvious to many people, you knew it, a number of Americans did, but this relationship between the

00:31:23.200 deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, the Marxist dem party, uh, and, and corporate media in particular,

00:31:32.140 but us corporations and wall street. Give us your sense. As you watch this unfold, what Hillary

00:31:39.680 Clinton now is known, uh, based on the testimony of her own campaign manager to have done in 2016

00:31:46.100 in us attacking you with a disinformation campaign and using it as a foundation to, uh, investigate

00:31:55.980 you, your administration, and then lead to a special counsel. So even now it came out yesterday

00:32:03.080 at this trial that she put out a tweet that Trump is tied up with a Russian bank. You saw that one,

00:32:09.200 right? That was right before the election that Trump is totally controlled and tied up a vicious tweet

00:32:15.140 by a Russian bank. That was just before the election of 2016. And think of that. And they

00:32:21.720 made up the story. Think about what Schiff said. Schiff got up and said, Donald Trump Jr. will be in

00:32:28.920 prison for what he's done with Russia. And they knew it was a con who would say that somebody is going to

00:32:35.260 prison. And they knew it was a con. And the one thing that has really come out here is these people

00:32:41.260 sat around a table and they made it up. And I remember watching Robbie Mook, who I don't know

00:32:47.540 at all. He was being interviewed by a certain person. I won't mention his name. And they talked

00:32:54.140 about Russia and it was before the election. And he reminded me of John Lovitz. Remember the liar on

00:33:00.140 Saturday Night Live? John Lovitz. He'd go like, yeah, yeah, I'm a great businessman. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

00:33:06.080 I went to Harvard. That's right. Okay. So this was Robbie Mook. And it was like, they asked him about

00:33:12.580 Russia. Yeah, yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I think Russia, Russia. That was the first time I ever heard it.

00:33:19.200 It was almost like, yeah, that's a good idea. And it was unbelievable for three years. And not only that

00:33:26.740 caused great danger to the country, it was a total con job. And it was she was totally aware of it. That

00:33:32.400 was her lawyer suspect. But she was totally aware of it. She was the one that approved it. And so this

00:33:38.780 was a total con job. And this went to the highest levels of of every agency. They knew it. How about

00:33:46.780 the 51 intelligence officers that wrote a letter saying that the laptop was disenfranchised, was made

00:33:54.360 up by Russia? I was just going to get to that, Mr. President. Oh, incredible. I mean, incredible.

00:34:00.140 You know, we're probably going to be suing all of them now. You know, we're very active now in the

00:34:05.360 lawsuit business because we have no choice because we had an attorney general named Bill Barr who just

00:34:11.060 was so afraid of being impeached that he didn't want to do. How do you not get impeached? All you

00:34:16.560 have to do is say, oh, no, I didn't see anything wrong with the election. And the Democrats say,

00:34:21.060 well, you got to be kidding. Let's leave this guy where he is. But Bill Barr was so afraid of

00:34:27.580 contempt and so afraid of being impeached that he didn't do what he was supposed to be doing

00:34:33.720 as the attorney general. You know, you had said to look at what. Yeah. Go ahead. You had said that

00:34:39.120 for some time. And now with it all laid out in front, Bill Barr writes a book. He talks to various

00:34:45.440 people. And what emerges is your attorney general acknowledged, admitted that in the second and

00:34:54.160 final debate of 2020, he knew that the former vice president of the United States was standing there

00:35:01.900 as a candidate for the presidency, lying through his teeth about the laptop, about Hunter Biden,

00:35:09.240 and and and trying to, I guess, excuse himself. He said he just didn't want to intervene in the

00:35:20.220 election. He knew that it was a cesspool, that the Biden family was corrupt, that Hunter Biden's 0.55

00:35:27.760 laptop was proof of it all. And he allowed he allowed Biden on that stage with you to hold up that

00:35:36.500 phony defense of 51 intelligence veterans and five former CIA heads saying it's Russian disinformation

00:35:48.400 to the best of their judgment. Outrageous. How did that make you feel? It was a sad, sad,

00:35:54.640 a sad thing. And then he writes a book. And he used to say, I'd never write a book, sir. I would never,

00:36:00.480 ever write a book. He told me that five times. And then he writes a book. And then he was a bushy,

00:36:06.280 Rhino, and didn't do his duty, didn't do his duty, not properly. And he should have done on the

00:36:12.820 remember McSwain, who, who I had to intervene because he was getting close to winning in

00:36:19.140 Pennsylvania, as you know, for governor, on the basis that he was, you know, he was working for

00:36:24.960 Trump as a US attorney in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. And he was running for governor. And I intervened.

00:36:31.380 I said, no, he did a terrible job. He was not allowed by Barr, according to him, not me. You

00:36:38.340 know, I didn't like him, but he said he called up and he said, sir, it wasn't me. It was Bill Barr

00:36:42.980 wouldn't let me do it. But that didn't make me endorse him any better. Okay. Because he should

00:36:48.880 have done what he should have done. But all of that corruption and everything else, Barr let pass

00:36:53.260 because he didn't want to be impeached. And you were right. As usual, the election was rigged

00:37:00.260 and the non-intervention of your attorney general changed American history. No fair-minded person

00:37:07.540 can argue that there can be a disputes about drop boxes and all of the other, the electronic voting.

00:37:13.620 Although I still think Mike Landell is right. We should have paper ballots everywhere. There

00:37:17.700 should be no paper ballots, one day elections. Yep. One day election, all paper ballots other

00:37:22.920 than military. That's a way, or if somebody can really prove they're very ill, uh, like France, 0.69

00:37:28.220 you know, France two weeks ago had it and they had a paper ballot and they had one day election.

00:37:33.280 They had no problem. So does Mexico. Mexico has an incredibly, uh, great system. We have just

00:37:41.540 received word here that, uh, that apparently the Santa's, uh, is reportedly, uh, going to jump into

00:37:50.820 the race, uh, and be drafted, uh, before you can make a decision, uh, that apparently is the purpose

00:37:58.780 of it, uh, can make a decision to run. What is your reaction? I don't know. I mean, I haven't heard

00:38:06.520 anything. You mean he's not going to run for governor? Well, I'm just telling you what, uh,

00:38:10.880 is being reported by the daily mail. Uh, it says Ronald Reagan's campaign chair, uh, Ed Rollins,

00:38:18.180 uh, will draft Ron DeSantis to jump into the 2024 presidential race before Trump does. Um,

00:38:26.000 the ready for Ron pack is led by Ed Rollins, Reagan's campaign manager, 1984. That draft

00:38:33.080 committee is unaffiliated with DeSantis. It says, and we know how that works, but those, uh, that,

00:38:38.520 that is the, if, uh, if I may say the, the powerful rumor of the hour.

00:38:45.280 I'd be surprised, you know, uh, Ron was at three. He came to see me. He wanted to have an endorsement.

00:38:53.020 Uh, he was, you know, zero chance of winning. I said, well, let's give it a shot. And I gave him a

00:38:59.700 strong endorsement and he went from 3% to the election was over. He got the nomination.

00:39:04.720 And then, uh, we had to get him past the young superstar of the party who turned out not to be

00:39:10.500 such a superstar as you know, it was Stacey Abrams and him. Right. And, uh, won that election. I gave

00:39:17.260 him three major rallies, three or four. Uh, I would, I would tend to doubt that it's right. You know,

00:39:22.460 it's, uh, uh, but you don't know. I mean, maybe he won't run in Florida again, but, uh, I tend to doubt

00:39:29.160 that it's, uh, correct. And how about your plans, Mr. President, as we, as we wrap up here, uh, give

00:39:36.720 us a sense of your thinking about running, uh, when you might make a decision. Well, as you know,

00:39:44.140 the campaign finance laws really preclude me from, uh, saying certain things. So we're not allowed to

00:39:52.600 do that. But, you know, as I've been saying, I think people are going to be very happy with my

00:39:56.340 decision. Uh, I see what's happened to our country. It's gone to hell. We've never had a

00:40:01.100 country that has been so disrespected and been so low. And it started with the borders, but it also

00:40:08.200 started with the way we got out, not getting out. I had it down to 2000 soldiers, but we're going to

00:40:13.260 keep Bagram, which now China has, if you can believe it, because it was only an hour away from where they 0.96

00:40:18.740 make their nuclear weapons. But, uh, we've never had anything like this with the inflation, which is at an

00:40:24.760 all time high. The stock market is one of the worst it's ever been. You know, if you look at the last

00:40:30.120 number of months of stock markets, one of the worst in history, people see it and it doesn't look like

00:40:35.920 anything's getting better. And we had it, we had the greatest economy in the world. And I did it twice

00:40:41.200 because I had to go through COVID. And by the time I gave it, we were back. We were doing great, but we

00:40:46.700 built the greatest economy in history. We were beating China at every single front, rebuilt the military,

00:40:53.520 started space force, even right to try where you're allowed to get medicines. If you're terminally

00:40:59.300 ill, that was a great having to go to Asia or Europe or anything else or die, just go home and 1.00

00:41:04.460 die. If you don't have the money. And I got even right to try, they've been trying to get that passed 1.00

00:41:09.240 for 52 years. The way we took care of the military and the vets, nobody's ever done that, got them 0.98

00:41:15.020 choice. You know, it's a, we did, we did a great job. And then, uh, the election was rigged. We,

00:41:21.840 I got 75 million votes. I got more votes than any sitting president has ever gotten by far

00:41:26.520 and much more than I got the first time, you know, did much better than I did the first time

00:41:31.560 because we, we did so well. And, uh, you know, you have mail-in ballots and mail-in ballots are

00:41:37.660 even Jimmy Carter was on a commission where they said mail-in ballots will absolutely. It's a

00:41:43.740 dishonest deal. And that's what happened. They use COVID to cheat. And it's a, it's a disgrace for

00:41:48.800 our country and look what's happened to our country. Yeah. I, you know, I'm going to ask you

00:41:54.600 in just a moment as we conclude, uh, to give us your thoughts that will inspire a country that is

00:42:00.960 desperate for inspiration, uh, from a strong leader. Uh, I do want to ask you about Pence, uh, and Pompeo

00:42:10.240 who have, uh, have stood up, I guess, uh, and, uh, at least, uh, tried to counter you at some point,

00:42:18.640 uh, you're feeling about that and how that will influence you going forward.

00:42:26.040 Well, I haven't heard about Pompeo. In fact, the, what, the only thing I heard is that he'd

00:42:30.040 never run if I ran that when he said that a long time ago. So I haven't heard about that.

00:42:34.880 Uh, wisdom. And, and with Mike Pence, uh, haven't heard that at all other than, you know,

00:42:41.720 over the last couple of days, I see they getting, uh, a little bit frisky. Perhaps he did. He could

00:42:47.720 have done something that I think would have been a very good thing and he would have been allowed

00:42:51.200 to do it. You know, it's very interesting. They say he had to be a human conveyor belt,

00:42:55.080 even if there was fraud, no matter what, he was just a conveyor belt. He had to bring it up to the

00:42:59.960 old crow, Mitch McConnell, and he had no choice no matter what, if it was crooked or not.

00:43:04.880 And they all said he had no choice. You remember that he had absolutely, there was nothing he could

00:43:10.260 do. Then three months later, the Republicans and the rhinos and the Democrats are getting together 0.57

00:43:16.040 to put in new legislation so that the vice president can't do it. Well, I said, if he can't do it,

00:43:21.760 why are they doing legislation? So that means he can do it. Well, they said, oh, well, actually he

00:43:26.060 could have done it, but see, they said he can't do it even if there was fraud. And all we asked them

00:43:31.780 to do was send it back to the legislatures to check Detroit, to check Philadelphia, to check

00:43:38.240 these places. And I think he would have had a different outcome because by that time, a lot

00:43:42.620 of things were found. Now we've really found, you know, they worked four years on this and we had a

00:43:47.720 very short period of time. So, you know, that was very disappointing. He could have done it and

00:43:53.000 send it back just for checking. Please check this and send it back to us, please. But he didn't want to

00:43:58.420 do that. And, uh, I think he got some very bad advice. I think he got, and I think people

00:44:04.360 understand that, but isn't it interesting where they said he had no choice and then they're trying

00:44:09.100 to work on something so that he or another vice president could never do it. I said, why do you

00:44:13.720 have to work on that? If you had no choice, right? He had a choice. He could have done it.

00:44:18.180 Let me, he could have done it. If he, if he wanted to do it, he could have done it.

00:44:22.040 It is so great to hear you, uh, your analysis, uh, and your, uh, if you will, positions on so many

00:44:30.560 important policies and issues to hear the strength and the intelligence, uh, that you bring to every

00:44:37.000 problem, every issue, every challenge, even every threat. Uh, I know this, uh, I know this audience is

00:44:44.120 thrilled, uh, to, uh, been able to listen to you and to enjoy your comments. I'm going to ask you

00:44:51.000 if you would, uh, we always give our guests the concluding thoughts. Uh, you always get the last

00:44:56.120 word here and whatever you can say to the folks who are so desperate, uh, for leadership. And I think

00:45:04.540 in particular, your leadership. Well, I want to thank you very much. And I'm just saying, as I'm

00:45:10.040 answering these questions and, you know, you are an incredible guy and you have great wisdom,

00:45:15.860 but you ask, these are not easy questions. And I'm saying, can you imagine Joe Biden doing this

00:45:21.500 interview? You know, there's no cards, there's no script, there's no nothing you. And if you may

00:45:27.440 ask a question, it may even be a friendly question, but it's oftentimes a complicated answer. And could

00:45:33.340 you even imagine that the answer is no, you can't imagine it. And it's very sad. Uh, our country,

00:45:40.040 has got to start moving or we're not going to have much of a country left. I used to say borders,

00:45:46.840 but you need borders, you need elections, you need fair elections because, uh, this is all every

00:45:51.760 single one of these things from inflation. Lou, you can take inflation. You can take Ukraine,

00:45:57.720 Russia. You can take, uh, the things that are happened to our military and the way we, the horrible

00:46:03.100 way to surrender that we did. We didn't lose a soldier in 18 months in Afghanistan. I spoke to

00:46:09.640 Abdul, the leader. We didn't lose one in 18 months. And here we lose 13 in one day, but many so

00:46:15.940 horribly injured that nobody talks about leave $85 billion worth of equipment behind and Americans

00:46:22.440 behind. Uh, so many things are so bad. There's never been, and now we have supply chain shortages.

00:46:28.940 Nobody ever even heard of that. That's the thing that nobody ever even heard of. So we have to do

00:46:35.500 things and we have to do them right. We have a very big election coming up. And the reason that's

00:46:40.320 big is if we do well in the house and we have a chance of doing the Senate too, but if we do on the

00:46:45.020 house, we can put a stop to the communism, socialism stuff that's coming out. Uh, I was very important.

00:46:51.740 What I did, I, I opened something called truth social and it's hot as a pistol. It's great. I think

00:46:57.980 it's better than Twitter and Twitter with all its bots and it's, uh, it's a fake accounts and all the

00:47:04.340 other stuff. I think it's much better than Twitter. And I think it will be as time goes by. I hope

00:47:08.960 you're, I hope your listeners and viewers will be able to go to truth social, but, uh, it's great,

00:47:14.580 great name truth, a great name that I was able to get that name. It's an incredible sort of a name.

00:47:20.180 I said, check out that name. And they all said, well, sir, you'll never be able to get

00:47:23.620 happened to be available. Who would have thought that was going to happen, but, uh, truth social.

00:47:28.680 So, you know, we have a voice because they took away our voice. We have a very dishonest media.

00:47:34.060 We have a very, very dishonest media. It's probably the single biggest problem is that

00:47:38.820 because they don't talk about things that they used to talk about and a lot of bad things happen

00:47:45.580 with all of that being said, it's about making America great. Again, it's about America first.

00:47:51.800 We have to put our country first. When you see the way we're treated, it just, you mentioned

00:47:56.460 just during this very interesting and good interview and professional, which I, I expect

00:48:01.260 nothing else but that from you, but you mentioned, uh, about the $40 billion that's being paid

00:48:09.320 plus the money that's already been paid, which is about 15 billion. And then I say, how much

00:48:14.360 is Europe being paid? You have to check that because you'll see it's a tiny fraction. So unfair.

00:48:18.800 It's so unfair. Let them put up money, let them put up more than we're putting up because

00:48:24.220 it's obviously for them. It's, you know, it's much more vital. Uh, you could take a pass on

00:48:29.540 it from our standpoint. If you want a lot of, a lot of, uh, humanitarian, bad humanitarian

00:48:34.540 things happening. A lot of things are happening over there. So horrible. Nobody's ever seen it,

00:48:39.180 including you. You look at it and I know where you're coming from, but you look at it so horrible,

00:48:43.400 but Europe should be putting up money along with us. They're not putting up almost anything.

00:48:49.920 It's so unfair. So I just want to say, look, we have the potential of a great country. We had a

00:48:55.440 great country. And now I say, you know, make America great again, again, but we made it great

00:49:00.940 again. And, uh, we're going to have to do it again. Some in somehow, some form, and we have the

00:49:06.260 potential. I just hope that, you know, two years is a long time. It's two and a half years,

00:49:11.140 but it's a lot better sounding than four years, Lou. When I used to say four years, I said, boy,

00:49:15.700 that's a long time. Uh, we're two and a half years. We're sort of less than that because the

00:49:20.720 campaign would start, but it's still a long time because tremendous destruction has been done to

00:49:26.220 our country in a year and a half, like nobody can believe. But I think we have a, I think we're

00:49:31.660 going to have a great future. And I think we will indeed be able to make America great again. And I

00:49:36.460 appreciate, uh, I love being on your show. Thank you, Mr. President. Uh, we love having

00:49:41.800 you here and, uh, we love the fact that you're going to make us all happy with your decision

00:49:46.820 on when you run. Uh, I think you will be. We, and, uh, we miss you. It's that simple.

00:49:54.800 Thank you, Lou. Thank you very much. Well, congratulations on the success of your podcast.

00:50:00.060 People are talking about it. It's a hot number and I would expect nothing less from the great

00:50:06.180 Lou Dobbs. Thank you, Mr. President. God bless you. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you, Lou.

00:50:12.860 Thank you. Again, my thanks to President Trump for joining us here today. I hope you enjoyed the

00:50:19.600 interview and thank you for being with us. God bless you and God bless America.

The Great America Show - May 25, 2022

PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS THE U.S. HAS NEVER BEEN IN AS MUCH DANGER AS RIGHT NOW

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