The Great America Show - September 05, 2025


Redistricting could end the Marxist Dems Reign of Terror -- FOR GOOD!


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 17 minutes

Words per Minute

189.17511

Word Count

14,646

Sentence Count

1,198

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

Biden appointee Ammar al-Ali blocks President Trump from cutting billions of dollars of foreign aid that Congress had authorized. Trump says he'll appeal. Mitch McConnell says it's the most dangerous time since before World War II. President Trump nominates Tulsi Gabbard to be New York City mayor.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great American Show.
00:00:05.100 It's great to have you with us.
00:00:06.320 Happy Friday.
00:00:07.780 It's a new day, which means I have a new judge to report on.
00:00:11.280 Another rogue judge.
00:00:12.800 Imagine that.
00:00:14.020 The Trump derangement syndrome trying to prevent President Trump from putting forth his America
00:00:19.000 First agenda.
00:00:20.580 It seems like we repeat ourselves every day here, but it's a new story and it's a new
00:00:25.200 judge every day.
00:00:26.380 In some cases, it's one of the Marxist district judges from D.C., but today it's U.S.
00:00:33.300 District Judge Amir Ali, a Biden appointee, blocking President Trump from cutting billions
00:00:38.360 of dollars of USAID money and foreign aid that Congress authorized.
00:00:43.740 Trump is saying he'll immediately appeal Judge Ali's ruling.
00:00:47.800 President Trump has the executive order to ensure that all foreign aid is accountable
00:00:51.220 for to the taxpayers and aligns with the America First priorities that people voted for.
00:00:56.000 According to a White House spokesperson.
00:00:59.180 I mean, it's a joke.
00:01:00.100 This federal judge has blocked President Trump from unilaterally cutting billions of dollars
00:01:04.540 of foreign aid authorized by Congress that's set to expire at the end of September.
00:01:09.480 He made the ruling last night that the administration remains under a duty to comply with appropriations
00:01:17.020 law unless Congress changes them.
00:01:19.280 They cannot choose to not spend the roughly $4 billion of the nearly $12 billion appropriated in 2024 that's set to expire at the end of this month.
00:01:31.440 Rogue judges thinking they're going to now do appropriations.
00:01:36.840 It doesn't work like that.
00:01:38.560 And I think it's part of the sentiment.
00:01:40.560 Yesterday, if you joined us, you heard about the story about the dozen or so judges who are secretly and quietly very upset
00:01:48.200 that the Supreme Court keeps overturning their rulings.
00:01:52.120 And it's for one reason and one reason only, because their rulings are unconstitutional and not American.
00:02:00.060 Donald Trump is not winning at the Supreme Court because his name is Donald Trump.
00:02:03.460 If anything, that would be a reason for them to rule against him.
00:02:06.840 Donald Trump is winning on the rule of law, and he will win and prevail in this case as well.
00:02:13.860 Well, the Republican Party has been on a roll lately, and it's up to them to screw it up, which somehow they always find a way.
00:02:19.400 But nonetheless, things are going, I think, pretty good in this country.
00:02:24.020 Unless, of course, you ask Senator Froghorn Leghorn Mitch McConnell, who will be departing soon,
00:02:29.800 he would tell you that the second presidency has entered a period of danger with certain similarities to the 30s,
00:02:36.620 according to a new interview that he just did for the Lexington Herald,
00:02:41.220 calling it the most dangerous period since before World War II.
00:02:47.220 Imagine that.
00:02:48.280 Mitch McConnell doesn't really know where he is, barely knows he's alive,
00:02:52.940 and he's dealing with his own health issues right now.
00:02:57.160 Yet, he's out here to criticize President Trump.
00:03:00.700 What has Mitch McConnell ever done in his tenure as a senator?
00:03:04.680 He hasn't done a half, a quarter, a tenth, a one hundredth of what President Trump has done in his first term or this last seven months or so.
00:03:18.080 Yet, he has the audacity to come out.
00:03:21.220 Mitch McConnell has done nothing but take lobbyist money, and we're going to take all this up in just a moment with my pal,
00:03:26.400 Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen, lead pollster for Rasmussen, but he hasn't done anything.
00:03:32.120 He's taken millions and millions of dollars from lobbying firms, from lobbying companies, from big pharma, from big debt, whatever.
00:03:40.660 Yet, he wants to come out and criticize President Trump over tariffs.
00:03:45.000 The man doesn't even know he's alive.
00:03:46.560 I mean, it's truly sad.
00:03:48.820 Well, like I said, we're going to take up all the Republicans' shortcomings and their wins that I think overwhelmingly,
00:03:55.120 whether it be the courts, some of the courts, or RFK Jr. on Capitol Hill yesterday,
00:04:01.300 or just the general sentiment of the Marxist Dems on a collision path with implosion.
00:04:08.420 President Trump now saying he may take a stance in the race for mayor, New York City mayor,
00:04:17.080 if the Republicans can't figure it out by next Wednesday.
00:04:20.480 So, Donald Trump unilaterally having to do the job himself, but he's got a few great people with him,
00:04:26.180 Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, I mean to name a few, Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, doing a very, very, very good job.
00:04:34.660 Now, President Trump is set to sign an executive order any day now,
00:04:39.080 changing the Department of Defense to the Department of War.
00:04:43.140 Expected to come any moment now, any day now.
00:04:45.760 The President and Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, reportedly changed the name,
00:04:49.200 the Department of War, as part of the administration's, quote,
00:04:52.520 war ethos campaign within the Pentagon.
00:04:55.780 The White House confirmed earlier this afternoon that Trump would roll out the name change
00:04:59.580 any given moment.
00:05:01.280 The executive order calls for using the Department of War as a secondary title for the Department of Defense,
00:05:06.540 along with phrases like Secretary of War for Hegseth, according to the White House fact sheet.
00:05:11.600 The order also instructs Hegseth to propose both legislation and executive actions
00:05:17.720 to make the name permanently the U.S. Department of War.
00:05:21.540 Likewise, implementing the order will require modifications to public-facing websites
00:05:25.620 and official signage at the Pentagon, including renaming the Public Affairs Briefing Room
00:05:30.500 to the Pentagon War Annex.
00:05:32.500 I like the sound of that.
00:05:33.940 So we can expect that to come at any given moment now from the Trump administration.
00:05:39.260 Folks, as I said, our guest today is lead pollster for Rasmussen Reports,
00:05:44.100 a good friend of mine, a good friend of the show's, the great Mark Mitchell.
00:05:47.060 There's so much to talk about today.
00:05:48.400 Mark and I usually have a great discussion, regardless of what the topic is,
00:05:53.000 but it's usually on the Republicans' shortcomings.
00:05:56.440 But I think this is probably one of the better weeks the Republicans have had
00:06:00.820 since Donald Trump has taken back office.
00:06:04.220 So many things are going great.
00:06:05.980 Congress is now back in session.
00:06:07.600 Congress is hopefully going to start doing their job,
00:06:10.820 hopefully going to have a successful term putting forth the America First agenda
00:06:17.180 that Americans voted for, putting forth the Trump agenda that Americans voted for.
00:06:22.940 But it's going to be incumbent on Mike Johnson and John Thune.
00:06:26.880 And John Thune, I think, is going to be a problem.
00:06:29.860 John Thune, I think, through and through is a rhino, in my opinion.
00:06:33.600 Hasn't shown us otherwise to be to the adverse.
00:06:37.740 Came out yesterday before RFK's hearing.
00:06:40.360 And said, he is going to face tough questions.
00:06:43.660 You would never see Chuck Schumer or Cory Booker come out or any leadership Democrat,
00:06:50.920 Hakeem Jeffries or Nancy Pelosi or any of these Democrats come out
00:06:55.240 and say such an absurd thing against their own administration, their own party.
00:07:01.000 But this is what we get in John Thune.
00:07:02.840 So truly sad that I think the Republicans, I said this yesterday as well,
00:07:07.040 are going to have to keep him on a tight leash.
00:07:08.440 And at any given moment, get ready to pull the plug and put somebody else in there.
00:07:13.500 I, from the beginning, hoped it was Rick Scott who was going to take over that job.
00:07:17.900 We're stuck with John Thune now.
00:07:19.540 And the Republicans have got to hold this man to a tight leash
00:07:23.500 and not let him run astray like they let Mitch McConnell run for far too long.
00:07:28.480 Because you get what you get with Mitch McConnell if they don't hold Thune back.
00:07:34.620 We're going to take all this up and much, much more on the other side of this quick break
00:07:38.060 with Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen Reports.
00:07:40.700 Folks, please stay with us.
00:07:42.240 The Great America Show continues in just moments.
00:07:44.240 We're coming right back.
00:07:45.660 Happy Friday.
00:07:46.340 We'll be right back.
00:07:47.060 Mark and Delight, as always, to have you back on The Great America Show.
00:07:56.160 Happy Friday.
00:07:58.000 I want to start with first, it's been a rough week, at least in my opinion.
00:08:01.560 Let me get your take on it.
00:08:02.600 For the Democrats, loss after loss, federal judges telling them
00:08:06.540 that they have to close Alligator Alcatraz in Florida.
00:08:09.760 The appeals judge comes in and says,
00:08:11.460 nah, you guys can keep it open and you can continue with construction.
00:08:14.200 You had RFK on the Hill yesterday, absolutely obliterating every single Democrat and rhino
00:08:19.840 who thought they were going to get him.
00:08:22.800 You've got federal judges who are complaining behind the scenes.
00:08:25.980 There's a few of them who are complaining that the Supreme Court is overturning
00:08:29.220 every one of their anti-Trump rulings that they come forward.
00:08:34.660 What they don't realize is the Supreme Court hasn't particularly been favorable to Donald Trump.
00:08:39.280 I think they've been favorable to the rule of law.
00:08:41.840 Well, your take on the wins to the Republicans that I don't think we've seen
00:08:46.460 in a week's span, Mark, in a long time.
00:08:50.200 Well, the core left is incapable of that kind of self-introspection.
00:08:55.180 They really, I mean, the fact that for four years,
00:08:58.140 everybody with their eyes looked at Biden's failing health.
00:09:01.240 I mean, February at 22, we had 68% of people saying that they wanted him to take a mental exam.
00:09:06.960 And then what did they spend three, four days over the weekend doing,
00:09:10.580 trying to convince everybody that Donald Trump had health issues?
00:09:13.560 No, that he was dead.
00:09:15.100 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:16.220 And not only was he dead, they were wishing for him to be dead,
00:09:19.900 which is something I don't recall ever doing about our former resident-in-chief.
00:09:24.660 And so, yeah, they are in a really tough and a really dark spot.
00:09:28.640 And, you know, I think they're just going to try and keep throwing everything at the wall.
00:09:32.760 They are using a very large toolbox in order to resist Trump.
00:09:37.420 And, yeah, they're losing, but it's like at least they're playing the game, right?
00:09:41.840 You know, they're out there trying to play the game.
00:09:43.860 I don't know what Republicans are doing.
00:09:45.740 They're like joining in with the Democrats,
00:09:47.580 trying to rake RFK Jr. over the coals in front of,
00:09:51.740 basically in front of the entire world in order to keep their pharmaceutical donors happy.
00:09:56.100 Like that's what the Republicans are doing.
00:09:57.620 So, I mean, I guess they're lucky because if the Republicans weren't so –
00:10:02.500 the Democrats, sorry, if they weren't so perennially asinine,
00:10:05.420 the Republicans would be like a super minority in this country.
00:10:08.920 It's not all of them.
00:10:09.900 It's guys like Bill Cassidy who are just –
00:10:12.180 and they're not really Republicans.
00:10:13.480 They're rhinos.
00:10:14.080 I say this all the time on this show.
00:10:16.700 There's no such thing as a Republican Party anymore.
00:10:18.640 It's the MAGA Party.
00:10:19.500 It's the party of rhinos.
00:10:20.580 And on the left, you've got the Democrats,
00:10:23.280 and then you've got the Marxist Democrats.
00:10:25.020 And that's it.
00:10:25.600 It's a four-party system.
00:10:26.560 So, everyone who's complained about it's two-party system in America,
00:10:29.460 there is no two-party system.
00:10:30.580 It's a four-party system.
00:10:31.620 You've got the rhinos in MAGA, and you've got the Democrats,
00:10:34.200 and you've got the Marxist Socialist Democrats.
00:10:36.640 Speaking of Socialist Democrats, I did a rant yesterday, Mark,
00:10:38.800 and I didn't even mean to do it, but it just pissed me off so much.
00:10:43.000 You're in the New York tri-state, and they've got this –
00:10:45.380 Oh, no, not this guy.
00:10:47.780 Don't mess with the Zohan.
00:10:50.500 I'm going to get me in trouble again.
00:10:52.720 I'm going to lose followers.
00:10:54.780 I've got a hot take on this one.
00:10:56.240 Donald Trump says he's given the Republicans and the party
00:11:00.340 until Wednesday of next week to figure out what's going on
00:11:03.520 before he steps into this race.
00:11:05.040 Now, my whole rant was yesterday,
00:11:07.380 I don't know if I want him to win or lose.
00:11:10.620 And the point being is if enough people voted for this idiot,
00:11:15.560 predominantly whites and Asians,
00:11:17.540 if enough of them voted for this idiot,
00:11:20.420 maybe it's what New York needs to correct itself.
00:11:23.080 Maybe it's what New York needs to have every single financial institution
00:11:28.000 with the exception of that idiot Jamie Dimon,
00:11:30.300 who just built this monstrosity tax write-off.
00:11:34.100 Maybe it's what they need, Mark.
00:11:36.100 Maybe they need to go back.
00:11:37.520 Maybe New York needs to go back and remember what happened during COVID
00:11:40.840 to their real estate.
00:11:42.060 Floor's empty.
00:11:43.100 Building's empty.
00:11:44.080 They've got the most expensive taxes in this country.
00:11:46.260 They've got the most expensive rent in this country.
00:11:50.260 What is – there's no incentive anymore.
00:11:53.120 Back in the 80s, back in the 90s, Mark, there was such a thing as Wall Street.
00:11:56.740 Now there's such a thing as Zoom.
00:11:58.600 Nobody needs to be on Wall Street anymore.
00:12:00.740 Nobody needs to be in New York City anymore.
00:12:02.780 Back in the day, Mark, guys used to travel for work.
00:12:04.940 My father was away every single week traveling for work.
00:12:07.420 Now you've got Zoom.
00:12:08.720 You've got whatever, you know, Microsoft Teams.
00:12:11.640 It's not the case anymore.
00:12:12.640 There's no incentive, Mark, to stay in New York anymore.
00:12:17.140 So why not let Mom and Donnie win?
00:12:18.780 Why not let this guy do what the people want him to do, Mark?
00:12:22.640 That's my hot take.
00:12:23.340 Yeah.
00:12:24.000 I agree wholeheartedly.
00:12:25.520 I made a lot of people mad because I posted a picture of Gotham City
00:12:28.980 from the Dark Knight Rises with the bridges blowing up.
00:12:32.300 And I said, 2027, Mom Donnie is mayor,
00:12:35.780 and nobody's been into or out of the city since he was elected.
00:12:38.680 And I'm watering my lawn, basically, is what my take on that one was.
00:12:43.140 Yeah, they need to – listen, there's a proverb, a burnt child fears the fire.
00:12:48.780 And so if they're not afraid of communists enough, well, they need to dabble in it a little bit more.
00:12:53.920 Listen, I like New York as much as the next guy.
00:12:56.320 I lived there for a year.
00:12:57.220 I worked there for lots of years, and it's been on the downslide.
00:13:01.080 And you talk about COVID.
00:13:02.260 Well, even before COVID, a lot of these new condo buildings that were getting built up were, you know,
00:13:07.000 one-third to a half empty.
00:13:08.900 And why was it?
00:13:09.940 Well, every wealthy oligarch around the world was using those things to launder cash in the United States of America.
00:13:16.380 And so those stores were closing well before COVID because basically what Manhattan has turned into
00:13:21.540 was the world's largest office building.
00:13:23.420 And like you said, there's no reason to go there anymore.
00:13:26.040 And so it's like, okay, there will always be Times Square.
00:13:29.380 We'll always have Bryant Park.
00:13:31.020 But as far as I'm concerned, that city can go screw itself.
00:13:34.580 I don't even know how many actual voters are there.
00:13:36.660 Obviously, like nobody turns up to vote.
00:13:38.540 90% of them are Upper West Side white and Jewish liberals.
00:13:43.420 That's what the city's political core is.
00:13:45.180 So, yeah, let the government take over the grocery stores.
00:13:48.660 Let's see how that goes.
00:13:49.600 Now, personally, I think the city government will probably keep him from doing anything really retarded.
00:13:57.000 So I don't think it's as bad as everybody says.
00:13:59.360 I'm not sure.
00:14:01.220 Well, you know, if that's the case, then New York City had it coming.
00:14:06.120 Mom, Donnie or no.
00:14:07.020 It was just going to be whoever got in place to allow them to fulfill their utopia dreams.
00:14:13.200 And fine, let it happen.
00:14:14.880 They had it coming.
00:14:16.120 They have to learn.
00:14:17.000 But what Trump should not do in any way is help somebody who's been accused by many of being a serial killer and also probably, you know, accused of allegations of sexual assault.
00:14:29.900 Like, why are we helping that guy?
00:14:32.160 That should not be the case.
00:14:33.700 So if it's between a communist and somebody who's allegedly a murderer in the minds of many.
00:14:41.060 I would go with the communist, quite frankly.
00:14:43.340 Yeah.
00:14:43.660 And it's almost not not not a socialist either.
00:14:47.040 You watch what he did during covid and his draconian lockdowns.
00:14:50.380 I'll never forget what he did with that bullshit where he made Trump bring in the ship, the army ship, screwed the whole thing up.
00:14:57.260 He never wound up even using it.
00:14:59.240 He put people on the ship who were sick when they weren't supposed to be on there, put the people who were sick in the Javits Center who weren't supposed to be in there.
00:15:05.680 And it screwed the whole thing up.
00:15:07.380 His draconian lockdowns.
00:15:08.800 I mean, this is a man.
00:15:10.200 Give it.
00:15:10.520 Give me a few days to slow the spread.
00:15:12.060 This this and he lied all along the way.
00:15:14.000 So just because mom and Donnie wears it on a sleeve doesn't mean that Cuomo is not a socialist Marxist as well.
00:15:19.880 I think he's he's certainly gotten his way there.
00:15:22.960 His brother, I think, has gotten a little bit better towards the right.
00:15:25.860 Chris Cuomo, the wannabe gangster, but Cuomo is not necessarily, you know, a center left Democrat.
00:15:34.860 He's just as bad.
00:15:36.000 So I think you're absolutely right.
00:15:37.020 Why save this guy?
00:15:38.320 This is what the people want.
00:15:40.080 Don't interfere.
00:15:41.100 Let them be.
00:15:41.680 And if Curtis Lila can beat him, he can beat him.
00:15:45.720 If Mayor Adams can beat him, he could beat him.
00:15:47.880 I personally think Mayor Adams should continue on with the job.
00:15:51.700 I think New York has gotten a little bit better than what it was compared to what we had before.
00:15:57.900 That was Mayor de Blasio is a total psychopath.
00:16:02.140 I think it's got a little bit better.
00:16:03.520 His allowance of federal agents to interact with local law enforcement has gotten a little bit better.
00:16:10.740 I think the life for cops have gotten a little bit better.
00:16:13.160 So I'll take that any day over what you possibly can get with Cuomo.
00:16:18.880 Yeah.
00:16:19.620 Well, personally, I also think they should send the National Guard in before that election happens.
00:16:23.740 Oh, yeah.
00:16:25.260 I think they're going to keep doing it to more and more cities.
00:16:28.060 And I'm I'm here for it because I think, you know, crime was one of the big issues of this election.
00:16:32.740 A lot of people didn't talk about it because of the border invasion.
00:16:36.040 But people are really upset about the increasing level of violent crime.
00:16:39.200 And remember, the Democrats were the defund the police thing.
00:16:42.060 Like, that's what really kicked this whole party off.
00:16:44.400 It was, you know, there was this mass formation around covid.
00:16:47.760 But then at the same time, like that's when really the left reared its ugly head with Antifa cities burning down.
00:16:54.100 People were upset about that.
00:16:55.140 That's one of the reasons that America went back into the arms of Donald Trump.
00:16:59.680 Yeah.
00:17:00.000 You mentioned big cities and the National Guard going in.
00:17:03.100 We got word yesterday that ICE is now set to move in on Chicago, Illinois.
00:17:08.160 I think Pritzker and the numbskull Brandon Johnson over there, I think they barked up the wrong bush.
00:17:14.640 And I think Tom Holman is running most of this this raid operation.
00:17:19.020 Donald Trump has given him full control to run the the operations.
00:17:22.880 They're messing with the wrong guy.
00:17:25.280 I know Tom Holman for a long time and he is not going to back down.
00:17:28.400 There's nothing that scares that guy.
00:17:31.320 Donald Trump obviously doesn't give a damn what the Democrats say.
00:17:34.100 And now at this point, he's trolling because these guys think that Donald Trump is going to listen to them.
00:17:39.360 Newscum and Pritzker and Brandon Johnson think that Donald Trump is scared of them.
00:17:44.160 This is a 78 year old man that you put in handcuffs and you fingerprinted them.
00:17:48.100 There's nothing that's going to scare him.
00:17:49.720 This is a 78 year old man who had a bullet whizzed past his ear.
00:17:52.420 If that didn't scare him, you think Jay Pritzker and Brandon Johnson would scare him?
00:17:57.400 I don't think so.
00:17:59.120 These are petty tyrants, narcissists with God complexes.
00:18:03.220 These are people who, when they're in charge, will bend any rule and do anything like no scruples in order to maintain their political power.
00:18:11.060 We saw that under the Biden administration.
00:18:13.140 And you can say it was Biden.
00:18:14.560 Well, it's also all the clowns he had working for him and all of the blue state Democrats that said, oh, I see how things are going.
00:18:20.640 I like this.
00:18:21.700 I like being Murphy and I'm going to use an iron fist on my state when COVID rolls around.
00:18:26.240 We saw it across the country.
00:18:29.100 And the problem is, is that they're not in power.
00:18:31.020 But all of those, you know, governors with God complexes still are.
00:18:35.780 You got Murphy still in office for a little bit.
00:18:38.540 You know, you're going to you got Pritzker.
00:18:41.780 And what I think is, you know, Newsom, obviously, I think what we see now is that they've learned that they can get a presence, virtue signal like this, stand up, resist Trump.
00:18:51.960 But what we have is an unstoppable force hitting an immovable object here.
00:18:56.540 Like if Trump says he's going to bring the National Guard in, he's going to do it.
00:19:00.060 And you have Pritzker out there saying some really strong language about how he is going to resist that happening in Chicago.
00:19:07.000 And so the reason I'm watching this very closely is because, as we've talked about many times before, I'm concerned with the level of violent rhetoric, what it's done to Americans and how afraid they are of a future civil war.
00:19:21.520 Forty three percent.
00:19:22.680 That's exactly what this is.
00:19:24.180 We're talking about the federal government conflicting with the state government.
00:19:28.580 That's what this is.
00:19:29.540 You know, whose jurisdiction, whose laws, who's going to win when somebody starts breaking laws?
00:19:34.480 Who's going to interpret that and how are the people going to interpret that?
00:19:37.340 We could see this in a week or two when we have Humvees rolling down the street in Chicago.
00:19:43.220 What's what's Pritzker going to do?
00:19:44.940 Is he just going to roll over?
00:19:46.680 Like, probably metaphors or physically?
00:19:50.220 Yeah, well, probably a little bit of both.
00:19:52.860 I don't know what his personal life is like.
00:19:55.160 I don't know if it's as weird as Tim Waltz's, but I was talking about his personal appearance.
00:19:59.080 But oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:00.600 We played yesterday on the show of him and Chris Christie sumo wrestling.
00:20:05.160 So people probably ruined a lot of people's week.
00:20:08.600 And the people who are joining us on audio had the delight to not watch it.
00:20:11.780 The lucky ones.
00:20:13.240 But everyone who was here on video, they had to watch it.
00:20:16.160 Let's turn to a lot of sumo in two days.
00:20:18.700 Did you see Eric Trump wrestled Yokozunno?
00:20:21.020 I did.
00:20:21.540 That was cool.
00:20:22.340 I did.
00:20:22.740 Let's turn to Mark.
00:20:26.400 We've got a new analysis out from a Census Bureau audit breaking nearly all errors from
00:20:34.020 the 2020 census disproportionately hurt red states with many undocumented and undercounted
00:20:41.400 many blue states overcounted.
00:20:44.080 What does that mean?
00:20:45.180 See, this is what annoys me the most, Mark, is that the Republicans have such a prime time
00:20:53.020 right now to absolutely just slaughter the Democrats in Missouri.
00:20:57.520 I was reading yesterday.
00:20:59.040 Missouri has a redistricting map that's going to get rid of.
00:21:02.080 I think they're only Democrat seat the way that it gets redistricted.
00:21:06.240 That'll be a fully red state.
00:21:08.100 The Republicans have such an opportunity right now.
00:21:10.620 And what they're doing is they're writing the Democrats wrong.
00:21:13.100 I don't think they're doing anything wrong.
00:21:14.320 The Democrats have done this for years illegally.
00:21:16.680 I think the Republicans are probably doing it the right way.
00:21:19.780 Yeah.
00:21:20.020 They have such a prime time right now to sweep the midterm elections and hold the office
00:21:25.160 in 2028.
00:21:26.340 And no, nothing illegal about it.
00:21:29.120 This is them just correcting what the Democrats done.
00:21:32.180 I think they find a way to somehow screw it up.
00:21:36.500 Well, yeah, this is the crux of what we've been talking about here and why I've been relatively
00:21:43.060 unpopular.
00:21:43.660 Everybody wants to follow me when I'm telling them that Trump's going to win an election.
00:21:47.580 Then they want to disappear when I say the Republicans are about to get screwed.
00:21:51.520 But I think you're unhinged.
00:21:53.220 Well, yeah, exactly.
00:21:54.280 So there's a lot of people huffing copium right now.
00:21:56.880 And they say things like, oh, the Democrat Party's got super low favorability.
00:22:00.440 Look at this Quinnipiac poll.
00:22:01.760 It says they've got a 19% favorability rating.
00:22:04.580 Well, those people can't predict elections.
00:22:06.500 You can't like you can't use those numbers at all.
00:22:09.400 And then Trump will even use them.
00:22:11.180 But no, Democrat favorability is low, lower than it's been.
00:22:15.040 But it's not much less than Republicans.
00:22:16.580 And so there's no advantage there.
00:22:18.100 And Democrats still have a lot of other advantages on Republicans.
00:22:21.660 Things like who is better at doing the things they say they're going to do.
00:22:25.780 Who cares more about people like me?
00:22:27.840 The Democrats will still win on those kind of things.
00:22:30.960 And unfortunately, voter enthusiasm, because both Republicans and Democrats will say to
00:22:35.280 a pollster that they're going to show up and vote.
00:22:37.180 But as we've seen in every special election, Republicans will not.
00:22:41.160 So this is like there are two things that are true here at the same time.
00:22:45.220 One is that the Democrats face utter long term political irrelevance.
00:22:51.780 They really do.
00:22:52.840 Because you have, OK, well, if you look at redistricting, if Republicans are actually going
00:22:57.100 to do that, the Republican maps have more room than the Democrat ones do to pick up additional
00:23:01.880 seats.
00:23:02.440 Then you have the 2030 census that's going to gauge all of the post-COVID migration when
00:23:08.020 everybody was fleeing New York for Florida.
00:23:10.320 That hasn't been counted yet.
00:23:12.260 Then you have the errors in the 2020 election, which if they go and fix and get all the illegals
00:23:16.640 out and fix all those errors, that's another 15, 20 seats.
00:23:19.740 So we're talking about 30, 40, 50 seats and electoral votes.
00:23:24.400 The map will forever be changed.
00:23:26.280 I think New York Times, I think, did an expose on it where they showed, well, just if we
00:23:31.300 fixed, I think they were looking at the 2030 census just from the 2030 census.
00:23:36.080 It automatically shifts like three states and Republicans favor.
00:23:40.080 And there's like many electoral pass to victory that the Democrats just don't have anymore.
00:23:45.440 So you have a Democrats long term are absolutely screwed and they're not running on popular
00:23:50.020 things.
00:23:50.920 But here's the other problem is that they still have all their good maps.
00:23:55.020 Now, they are still leading in the generic ballot.
00:23:58.880 And if you look at like the Republicans are just missing in action, they're not really
00:24:03.020 helping in any of these special elections.
00:24:05.820 You just go ask Rock if you're watching this and ask it to rate how the DNC did versus how
00:24:11.360 the RNC did in the Iowa state state legislature special election.
00:24:16.460 Then it'll rate the Democrats nine.
00:24:18.980 It'll rate Republicans three.
00:24:20.700 They had to like raise money at the state level.
00:24:23.300 They had to like do.
00:24:24.560 There was no national machine at all.
00:24:26.960 The Republicans don't have one.
00:24:29.060 And this is the biggest, most unescapable fact.
00:24:32.920 In my final poll of November 2024, only 58 percent of Donald Trump support came from Republicans.
00:24:40.640 I saw that you tweeted that yesterday.
00:24:42.160 Yeah.
00:24:42.680 I mean, yeah, it's very surprising.
00:24:44.480 But you look at what the Republicans have put up with.
00:24:46.940 And by the way, I've got that redistricting.
00:24:48.520 It was the American redistricting project I'm going to put up on the screen here for for
00:24:52.980 everyone to see it about what they forecast for the 2030 forecast for the census.
00:25:01.480 But the Republicans had Ronna McDaniel and they put up with her for far too long.
00:25:06.080 This was a woman who was spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year a year at Staples.
00:25:10.960 It was a lady who was spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on black cars.
00:25:17.400 I mean, and just wasting and bleeding money.
00:25:20.660 This was what their their 2030 forecast was.
00:25:25.060 Yeah, this is what I saw.
00:25:26.840 Florida would gain for Texas would gain for Arizona would gain one and continuing up north, up into Idaho.
00:25:36.360 So you've got a net gain, a gain of what is that?
00:25:39.380 Eight, nine, 10, 11.
00:25:41.300 And you've got a loss of three in California.
00:25:45.300 California, you got to New York, you got to Illinois, you got to Minnesota.
00:25:51.560 So it looks like you're going to lose three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 11.
00:25:56.260 So it's a 21 point swing, right?
00:25:59.400 Yeah.
00:25:59.820 Well, and again, that's on top of Seth Keschel did a report that said that he thought the 2020 census was 16 seats out of the Republicans.
00:26:07.060 They're talking about a lot of electoral representation.
00:26:10.720 The Democrats, the chicken will come home to roost.
00:26:14.060 But the problem is, is that this just backs the animal into the corner.
00:26:17.380 That's the real problem.
00:26:18.440 And history tells us that they're going to win this midterm.
00:26:20.860 That's just what's supposed to happen.
00:26:22.100 And so Donald Trump made a lot of promises and he's trying his best.
00:26:28.400 But at the end of the day, what people might remember after his presidency is that he didn't fulfill his promises.
00:26:35.340 And all of the people in the Republican Party that enabled this to happen will all still be there.
00:26:40.280 Like, that's the problem is that everybody's, oh, you got to rhino these.
00:26:43.280 You got to primary these rhinos.
00:26:44.860 That's not going to fix anything.
00:26:45.940 Primary rhinos does not fix anything because the people that make the decisions, like Rana, who allocate the donor capital, that is the core of the Republican Party.
00:26:55.880 And they have a nice, comfy little gig for themselves.
00:26:59.800 And they're not threatened.
00:27:00.900 They don't care if Trump loses because they still make their money.
00:27:05.520 They are still on the gravy train if the Republicans are in the minority.
00:27:08.860 Yeah, and they ride off into the sunset.
00:27:11.060 You saw Mike Gallagher from Wisconsin playing his little games.
00:27:14.120 I think he's on the board of Palantir right now.
00:27:17.720 It's just the general sentiment.
00:27:19.360 Joni Ernst, she's not leaving the Senate, you know, because my work here is done.
00:27:24.180 The work's never done, right?
00:27:25.320 It's like anyone who lives in New York, the construction on the streets, it's never done.
00:27:30.180 It's it just it just moves.
00:27:32.480 You finish one and then you go back to what you started 20 years ago.
00:27:35.360 It's a continuing cycle.
00:27:37.220 The work is never done.
00:27:38.460 But these rhinos and the Mark systems always find a way to line up their next job, Mark.
00:27:43.980 There's seven figure jobs.
00:27:45.580 Paul Ryan found a way to do it.
00:27:47.020 And he went over to Fox News and absolutely destroyed that network.
00:27:50.360 That network is I mean, it's better than the rest, according to the ratings.
00:27:54.240 But their ratings are still down 50 percent from where they were.
00:27:57.500 Let me give my analogy.
00:27:58.480 I think your audience will appreciate this because this is a unique take.
00:28:02.620 I have because every I see people say it all the time.
00:28:06.740 You got to primary the rhinos and it's like, OK, that's that's valid.
00:28:10.600 That's laudable.
00:28:11.340 But here's why that won't fix things.
00:28:13.700 So imagine the Republican Party like the investors on Shark Tank.
00:28:17.840 OK, they that those people are trying to pick products.
00:28:23.540 Candidates that will find a market that the viewers, the consumers will purchase, will vote for.
00:28:29.620 OK, who do those people represent?
00:28:32.500 Those are the big wigs at the top of the RNC, the NRCC, the RGA, the NRSC, the state party chairs, all of these people.
00:28:39.960 It's a very big and complex organization.
00:28:42.100 They've been around.
00:28:42.880 They think they know more than you.
00:28:44.160 They have a lot of instincts.
00:28:45.320 They've launched a lot of candidates.
00:28:47.240 And so they're the ones that are the decision makers.
00:28:49.480 Now, they have all these backers, the big money that's coming from like foundations, the Koch brothers, big political action committees.
00:28:55.940 It's all establishment money.
00:28:57.320 It's people that want open borders.
00:28:58.600 It's people that don't want accountability for criminal activity.
00:29:01.640 It's people that want crony capitalism.
00:29:04.280 Now, if they get a MAGA candidate on the show, like that's wild because there's a lot of wickets.
00:29:10.400 There's a lot of like check valves that only flow one way to make sure that a very sanitized, moderate feeling candidate.
00:29:16.120 They want to they want to invest in something they're familiar with that already has a track record.
00:29:20.440 It might already have money behind it.
00:29:22.800 The less work they have to do, the better.
00:29:24.760 And so if you get a MAGA candidate on the Shark Tank show, the investor is going to be like, well, I don't know what to do with this.
00:29:30.220 And oh, that's risky.
00:29:31.180 And I got to de-risk this.
00:29:32.360 And we can't do that.
00:29:33.520 Our backers wouldn't like that.
00:29:35.040 Oh, we got to figure they can't talk like that.
00:29:37.440 And it's like, OK, well, if you are in the Republican Party and you want to play ball with the big national organizations, not have them fight you.
00:29:44.020 You got to look, act, feel and talk like all the other candidates.
00:29:48.160 And so maybe those guys succeed.
00:29:49.720 Maybe they go to Washington, D.C.
00:29:51.340 But at the end of the day, they've become an arm of this new big organization.
00:29:55.860 You're part of Mr. Wonderful.
00:29:57.300 He owns part of you now.
00:29:58.560 Right.
00:29:59.160 And then what's the voters, the person watching TV at home?
00:30:02.740 They really don't care what you think.
00:30:04.060 They just expect you to buy whatever product they shill and they push.
00:30:08.680 And so any any way you've heard like, oh, what is primary rhinos means?
00:30:14.720 That means you, dear viewer on TV, are going to run around and try and get a new candidate on the show only to have it sunk by these people who are out for themselves and not at all for any principles.
00:30:25.260 They're trying to build a business.
00:30:26.900 Yeah.
00:30:27.160 So, like, John, name me one other way you've heard that you could fix this thing.
00:30:31.080 The analogy proved them all incapable.
00:30:33.360 Oh, we just need more Scott Presslers.
00:30:35.500 They love Scott Pressler.
00:30:36.620 He's out there trying to sell the product for him.
00:30:38.680 They're not going to give him any money, though.
00:30:40.340 That's not that's not good business.
00:30:42.780 You know, it's like, oh, well, you know, was an act of God.
00:30:46.940 They got Rona McDaniel out.
00:30:48.760 But who did they put there?
00:30:49.860 Somebody that came from like one of the other investors like that's, you know, it's it was not an outsider.
00:30:55.760 So maybe that's a black pill for people.
00:30:59.120 But I think there's some provisions you could put into place that that may change things up a little bit.
00:31:05.240 That can go along with, you know, if primarying people is the right outlet, you know, it's expensive and it's very difficult to primary somebody who's sat there for years.
00:31:17.120 And it's very, very, very unsuccessful most of the time.
00:31:20.520 I mean, we did see, you know, Eric Cantor lose his seat, one of the most powerful men in Washington, D.C., too.
00:31:26.160 But it's very, very, very, very hard to do.
00:31:29.020 AOC, you know, is another one.
00:31:30.800 Whatever you go down and let's see, you can pick a few of these people that have, you know, primary people.
00:31:38.220 But I think if you add in some provisions, right, and it will be things that Congress would have to do themselves.
00:31:44.200 So it'd be very difficult.
00:31:45.180 But if you mount a pressure campaign, as we see, pressure campaigns are the only thing that works, I think, in the times of now.
00:31:53.320 And you try to take the corporate money out of politics.
00:31:56.560 You take the lobbying money out of politics.
00:31:59.120 You make it illegal.
00:32:00.100 If you take you ban stock trading for all members of Congress, I think if you put provisions in like that, Mark, it'll make this job a lot less desirable for some of these scumbags who are in there right now, who are making crap tons of money on the backs of the American people.
00:32:17.000 While everyone else suffers, like we watched during COVID, everyone lost money except for members of Congress in the broad sense.
00:32:24.940 I think if you start to put provisions in like this, it'll take more people like Joni Ernst.
00:32:30.640 It'll take more people like Mike Gallagher and say, you know what?
00:32:33.260 Now is my time to go be a scumbag in the private sector.
00:32:36.400 Let's let this ship go on.
00:32:37.740 And I think we're seeing a little bit of a shift with some of the people that ran.
00:32:42.200 Now, this isn't a good example, but someone like George Santos.
00:32:45.040 George Santos wasn't a political guy.
00:32:47.180 Came in, was an outsider.
00:32:49.840 Now, a flawed man.
00:32:51.440 We're all flawed.
00:32:52.460 I'm not defending what he did.
00:32:53.580 But just an example, you've got Mark DeShare, a former Yankees MLB World Series winner, who's now running for Congress down in Texas.
00:33:03.420 Doesn't know probably a thing about politics, but maybe that's what we need.
00:33:07.440 We need people who are untainted by what has been.
00:33:12.720 Well, yeah, I mean, in the analogy, that's a product that just built itself.
00:33:17.920 They didn't use the National Republican Organization.
00:33:20.880 They didn't go on Shark Tank.
00:33:22.180 And there are certainly people like that.
00:33:24.800 And there are also people that go through the whole process and get to D.C. and actually keep their scruples.
00:33:29.740 But I think the vast majority of them, they just get to the town and there's a certain operating manual.
00:33:34.100 There's a certain way that these products are supposed to look and run.
00:33:38.680 And what you're asking for is to change the rules so the products operate differently.
00:33:42.980 And, you know, I like imagine you are a MAGA candidate.
00:33:47.180 You get this backing from the National Party somehow and you get there and it's like, OK, well, this isn't like I'm begging for five million from Pfizer that's going to a pack that I'm not supposed to coordinate.
00:34:00.100 This is like John Thune, literally the CEO of Pfizer personally donated him, wrote a check.
00:34:06.160 And a lot of other CEOs did it as well.
00:34:08.800 So you can't even say keep the corporate money out of politics.
00:34:11.760 It's going to get there.
00:34:12.860 But here's the thing is that if you asked him, what would he say about that?
00:34:16.940 He would say, well, what do you want me to do?
00:34:18.860 Not win?
00:34:19.940 Like, I need this money to win.
00:34:21.620 And don't you want to win?
00:34:22.620 And yet at the same time, it's like, like, look at what we're seeing.
00:34:25.900 We're seeing one individual potentially being tried for mortgage fraud.
00:34:31.180 But I bet you every single person down there in Washington, D.C. has multiple products that are multiple properties that are all primary residents.
00:34:38.620 It's like they literally get a handbook when they show up.
00:34:42.320 This is how you survive in Washington, D.C.
00:34:45.240 And I just like I don't have a lot of hope that those rules can change.
00:34:48.740 And again, I don't want to be a doomer, but I'm just saying, like, all of the solutions I've heard, like, you know, term limits aren't going to work either.
00:34:57.700 That just means that the products have an expiry date and they got to find a new one faster.
00:35:01.680 That's all.
00:35:02.180 It makes the machine more powerful.
00:35:04.560 And so the only the only working theory I have is that somebody there needs to be basically a billionaire who doesn't want to use their money for leverage.
00:35:15.300 That's how it has to happen.
00:35:16.940 And they've got to build a competing show.
00:35:19.600 That's what they have to do.
00:35:20.560 They've got to build Shark Tank, too, on another network and build a shadow R&C that does things right.
00:35:26.480 Because we all know Ronna McDaniel was like, what did she do with that?
00:35:30.600 Two hundred and fifty million dollars.
00:35:32.620 All these scumbags down in D.C., this consultant class took their little sacks of cash and were laughing at all those people that donated that money because of election integrity.
00:35:42.040 It's gross.
00:35:43.380 Yeah, it's I mean, it's a travesty.
00:35:45.720 It's absolutely disgusting.
00:35:47.280 But this is, I guess, the new reality of what it's been, man.
00:35:50.420 And we're stuck with them.
00:35:51.760 I want to get your take.
00:35:52.620 I played this clip yesterday on yesterday's show of Rand Paul absolutely pissed off that Donald Trump would blow up a ship full of Venezuelan drug lords transporting drugs to this country.
00:36:04.200 Let's let's roll it.
00:36:05.160 Of that cartel boat, which, you know, I as I personally think that's a brilliant deterrent to this kind of activity.
00:36:11.800 Is that how you see it?
00:36:12.940 You know, I guess, you know, it's hard to have any sympathy for drug dealers, you know, trying to import product into our country.
00:36:21.100 But at the same time, I guess you might ask the question, you know, where does it end?
00:36:24.780 Are we the world's policemen, the international policemen?
00:36:27.280 Are we going to be blowing people up off the coast all around the world trying to interdict?
00:36:32.260 Really, I'm not sure we have the finances to be the world's policemen.
00:36:36.220 So on the face of it, sounds good.
00:36:38.720 Nobody's going to have any kind of lost love for a bunch of drugs going down in the ocean and killing some some gang members.
00:36:45.520 At the same time, really, where does it end?
00:36:48.120 And is it really the constitutional duty of our government to be, you know, policing international drug trade everywhere around the world?
00:36:58.040 If it's things like that, that make you think, you know, how stupid can these people be, Mark?
00:37:05.100 Is it America's responsibility to protect the homeland?
00:37:08.440 I went through these numbers yesterday.
00:37:10.280 The CDC says 80,000 people, excuse me, died last year of drug overdoses.
00:37:15.300 We know that's a lot higher than that.
00:37:17.200 Those are only 80,000 people who were autopsied.
00:37:19.820 Everyone else, you know, who died of a drug overdose on the side of the road.
00:37:23.440 Or I gave the example, you walk into your child's room and there's a pill bottle next to their bed or there's a needle next to your bed.
00:37:30.340 You don't have to put yourself through the agony of putting them through an autopsy to know that they overdosed on something.
00:37:34.940 Right. So you got 80,000.
00:37:36.620 Well, in my opinion, well over 100,000.
00:37:39.140 The CDC also says 55,000 of those deaths were from fentanyl.
00:37:43.340 So it's probably closer to 75,000 of those deaths are from fentanyl.
00:37:48.440 You've got guys like Rand Paul.
00:37:50.120 So the numbers are over 100,000, maybe 200.
00:37:52.940 I don't know.
00:37:54.160 I don't know how many go uncounted for a no autopsy.
00:37:57.920 Then you've got guys like Rand Paul saying, comparing pretty much Donald Trump blowing up drug lords to us invading Iraq, saying we're the world police.
00:38:06.640 The two don't go together.
00:38:08.060 This is protecting our homeland, our children, our loved ones from potentially snorting fentanyl instead of cocaine by accident.
00:38:17.640 Not saying you should be doing cocaine, but that seems to be the trend of what happens with some of these people who get it with fentanyl or heroin or whatever.
00:38:26.760 He's saying we shouldn't be doing it.
00:38:28.760 We can't afford to be doing it, but we can afford everything else.
00:38:31.500 Is that right, Rand Paul?
00:38:32.340 You know, the libertarians.
00:38:38.240 I'm a fan of principles, and I think that our country was founded on Western Judeo-Christian principles.
00:38:44.960 And really long term, I think we'll find that that's the only way this works.
00:38:48.820 Because how do any of these organizations that we entrust our natural rights to, how are they kept above board?
00:38:56.680 How do we know that they're being managed with principle?
00:38:58.620 You really don't at the end of the day.
00:39:00.060 And that's the reason we're in this institutional trust crisis is because most of the people that manage us are scumbags.
00:39:06.500 It would be great if a lot more of them were Christian, and that's probably not a perfect fix.
00:39:11.760 At the end of the day, though, it's nice to know that there are liberal principles that people care about.
00:39:17.160 And so the Libertarian Party cares a lot about those.
00:39:19.780 The problem is, is that, like, also in practice, their policies don't make a ton of sense.
00:39:25.200 I just had a libertarian say, oh, it's all so screwed up.
00:39:27.820 We just need to have complete chaos and let free market capitalism reign.
00:39:31.820 Okay, well, then you know what?
00:39:33.080 Amazon and Google are going to own everything.
00:39:35.420 You know, say hi to your new overlords.
00:39:38.140 And so I don't think that those principles necessarily work either.
00:39:40.860 Look at the slippery slope that happened after gay weddings, right?
00:39:44.060 Now it's, like, totally different situation.
00:39:47.740 And so the problem is, is that it's sloppy, it's messy, and a lot of times people's rights conflict with each other.
00:39:54.160 And, like, let's not forget that Dick Cheney ordered airliners, civilian airliners, shot down.
00:40:00.040 Well, those people have, like, you know, natural rights.
00:40:04.700 And we said, no, you know what?
00:40:06.660 Well, we had to make a decision, and we were going to kill people.
00:40:09.700 And, you know, so sometimes those rights conflict.
00:40:13.200 But in this particular situation, I think that one of the burdens you bear is somebody who's going to be the salient person arguing for certain principles.
00:40:21.860 And this is, like, okay, well, everybody on earth has a right to due process.
00:40:26.320 Well, I don't agree with that at all.
00:40:28.820 Okay, well, maybe we have to declare war.
00:40:31.240 Okay, well, maybe you're getting a little bit better.
00:40:33.220 But Trump has designated these people as foreign terrorists, right?
00:40:37.200 So it's, like, is that enough?
00:40:39.020 Probably.
00:40:40.560 But the problem is, is I don't think he's even right here.
00:40:42.980 I think that this was a flagless, stateless vessel in international waters that under certain circumstances, you're actually, like, maybe even compelled to destroy.
00:40:52.360 Like, you know what I mean?
00:40:53.300 Like, does he know that?
00:40:54.320 Did he look that up?
00:40:55.180 I don't know if he knows that or not.
00:40:57.340 And so here's the funny part about it.
00:40:59.720 He didn't even know where he was coming from.
00:41:01.280 And then I guess maybe Marco Rubio, who's, I think, perhaps the hardest, not perhaps, is the hardest working man in this cabinet right now, second to Donald Trump, obviously, the president, went out to clarify the statements over down in South America.
00:41:17.340 Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
00:41:18.960 The United States has long, for many, many years, established intelligence that allow us to interdict and stop drug boats.
00:41:26.260 And we did that.
00:41:27.440 And it doesn't work.
00:41:28.880 Interdiction doesn't work because these drug cartels, what they do is they know they're going to lose, you know, 2% of their cargo.
00:41:34.780 They bake it into their economics.
00:41:37.740 What will stop them is when you blow them up, when you get rid of them.
00:41:41.300 The president of the United States is going to wage war on narco-terrorist organizations.
00:41:46.720 This one was operating in international waters, headed towards the United States to flood our country with poison.
00:41:52.020 And under President Trump, those days are over.
00:41:54.760 And it wasn't a one-off.
00:41:56.180 Rubio says strikes like these will happen again.
00:41:59.240 So, it's apparent he was pointing at Rand Paul with that, saying that ship was on its way to America.
00:42:05.440 And I misspoke there.
00:42:06.320 He was down in Mexico speaking.
00:42:09.240 On its way to America.
00:42:10.900 So, even him taking that into account, Rand Paul, there, he was very nonchalant.
00:42:15.740 Well, I don't know if it was going towards America.
00:42:17.680 I guess if it was, then I guess maybe you have an obligation that perhaps you could blow it up because perhaps there's fentanyl on there.
00:42:24.540 Perhaps that fentanyl could kill someone's kid.
00:42:26.480 Or perhaps it might end up on the streets.
00:42:28.540 Or perhaps it might put a few billion dollars more into the pockets of the cartels.
00:42:32.460 Perhaps.
00:42:33.120 Perhaps you get some Venezuelan F-16s circling our Navy ships.
00:42:38.060 Perhaps that might happen.
00:42:39.680 What?
00:42:42.100 You know what I did, too?
00:42:43.240 I actually pulled up the Rob Schmidt interview with Rand Paul just because I wanted to see Rob Schmidt's face after Rand Paul said that stuff.
00:42:50.100 And it was hilarious.
00:42:51.120 It's definitely worth it.
00:42:52.700 I mean, like.
00:42:54.040 How does Rob sit there with a straight face and not look at this guy?
00:42:57.000 And I think he was trying to, Rob.
00:42:59.520 Yeah, he was.
00:43:00.460 Listen, Senator, in the most respectful way possible, you are an idiot.
00:43:04.380 I mean, it's crazy.
00:43:07.340 Yeah, he was nice.
00:43:09.020 But you could tell that he was like, what is coming out of this guy's mouth?
00:43:11.740 Yeah.
00:43:11.960 You know, good job, Rubio.
00:43:13.700 Rubio is knocking it out of the park.
00:43:15.840 Our country is going to be safe.
00:43:17.720 We haven't pulled on this one.
00:43:19.140 Maybe we should.
00:43:20.920 But, you know, this idea that violent narco terrorists have any rights is not popular.
00:43:27.440 Like, it's just not right.
00:43:28.940 We had I think we had 80 percent of people who thought it was important that violent crime crime members be sent back to their countries of origin.
00:43:36.620 So, yeah, like, I think that Trump should do a lot more of this stuff.
00:43:41.360 Listen, if Congress isn't going to act, make the Democrats defend narco terrorists like it is.
00:43:48.220 Just do it.
00:43:48.660 You know?
00:43:49.280 Yeah.
00:43:49.580 But it's the Republicans, too, Mark.
00:43:52.820 That's the thing.
00:43:53.600 The Democrats are so united.
00:43:55.060 And I feel like a broken record, honestly.
00:43:56.980 It seems like we have the same dialect every time, but nothing changes.
00:44:01.240 The Republicans are just always find a way to do something stupid.
00:44:05.500 And, you know, I always looked at Lou and I was like, you know, maybe you're being a little bit too hard on the Republicans.
00:44:10.880 And then as I worked by his side every single day for five years, Mark, hand in hand, you know, hand in glove.
00:44:17.980 And spoke to the man for five hours a day, every single day, 365 days a year.
00:44:25.040 And slowly I watched myself morph into Lou Dobbs.
00:44:28.680 Obviously, nobody could ever match the man.
00:44:31.780 And I wish you had got to meet him.
00:44:33.100 But I slowly watched myself morph into this man who hates everybody, literally.
00:44:39.460 But, you know, just dislikes all of these politicians.
00:44:42.460 And I said this yesterday.
00:44:44.260 It's the reason why I really don't have many politicians on this show anymore.
00:44:48.140 There's a few that I really, really like.
00:44:50.660 And those are the ones I bring on.
00:44:51.840 Burchett, Comer, to name two of them.
00:44:54.120 Two great people, I think, through and through.
00:44:57.020 But I'm just so sick and tired of these people.
00:45:00.580 And I don't mean to be negative because people hate negative.
00:45:02.900 No, I mean, it's all performative except for a few of them.
00:45:05.880 You know, there's a few good eggs.
00:45:07.880 Everybody else is as bad as you think it is.
00:45:10.400 And, like, we've seen this.
00:45:12.680 And this is what you and I have been ripping on.
00:45:14.760 We talked about Tom Tillis on this show as well.
00:45:18.020 And it's like it's obvious.
00:45:19.740 Ed Martin goes up for nomination.
00:45:22.280 Tom Tillis sinks the Ed Martin nomination.
00:45:25.360 Why?
00:45:26.000 Tom Tillis is backed by pharma.
00:45:27.740 And Ed Martin came out in support of Trump's most favored nation pricing policy on pharma, which Tom Tillis came out against.
00:45:35.720 And so, yeah, that's the problem is that this organization resists a principled takeover, as every organization does.
00:45:43.520 Now, I just got in a big discussion with Eric Weinstein on Twitter about this.
00:45:48.600 And I don't know what the solution is.
00:45:51.140 I'm trying to keep a list.
00:45:54.000 And as far as I know, it's like, OK, benevolent billionaires, a messy fourth turning crisis, maybe a civil war revolution or end times like that's the list.
00:46:06.180 Like, that's what's going to bail us out of our situation of institutional trust.
00:46:10.040 I don't know what else it is.
00:46:11.480 You know, my favorite thing about these people, Mark, someone like Tillis will take a vote like that or they'll they'll they'll stifle somebody.
00:46:24.080 They'll stop somebody.
00:46:25.340 And then three months later, two weeks later, a week later, they announce their resignation.
00:46:30.960 They don't even have the intestinal fortitude to stand on what they just did.
00:46:35.960 They hit and they run.
00:46:37.780 They're cowards.
00:46:39.720 Nancy Mace gets a bad rap.
00:46:40.880 She went against Donald Trump on impeachment the first time around.
00:46:44.700 And you know what?
00:46:45.560 To her credit, I disagree with her completely on it.
00:46:48.740 But to her credit, she ran again and she fought the tough fight that she had to fight.
00:46:54.760 Her taking the impeachment vote on the first supporting the impeachment was absolutely retarded.
00:46:59.880 So stupid.
00:47:00.700 And she's an idiot for doing that.
00:47:02.060 But she learned her lesson.
00:47:03.500 And you know what?
00:47:04.400 She didn't run.
00:47:04.900 She didn't vote for impeachment and then run like Ken Buck did.
00:47:07.500 She didn't vote for impeachment and then run like the rest of them did.
00:47:09.900 She voted for it.
00:47:11.540 I think she acknowledged that she was wrong and stupid for doing it.
00:47:14.520 She ran her election.
00:47:16.720 Donald Trump didn't support her.
00:47:17.860 Swore to the primary challenger, beat her.
00:47:19.500 And she retained her seat.
00:47:21.160 And now she's back on the MAGA wagon.
00:47:23.980 But these people aren't like that.
00:47:26.220 She's got more testimony than some of these guys who hit and run.
00:47:31.100 Tillis, like you said, the latest one to do it.
00:47:35.260 Yeah.
00:47:35.860 I think this is basic stuff.
00:47:37.720 I mean, if the thread, I think, that runs through all of my polling and why so much more on the Trump issues is strong majorities.
00:47:45.800 This isn't the 50-50 country where only half of it voted and half of that voted blue and half of that voted red.
00:47:53.600 And it's just because they disagreed about how to frame the question about entitlement reform or everything had reform at the end of it.
00:48:00.260 Remember that?
00:48:00.960 Like 20 years ago, that's what everybody ran on.
00:48:03.000 Oh, I'm going to reform it like this.
00:48:04.300 Well, I'm going to reform it like that.
00:48:05.900 Or Obama would change.
00:48:06.820 Yeah, well, like now what everybody realized is that this system is fundamentally unfair.
00:48:12.700 And Americans want fairness.
00:48:14.380 If you ask, like, the questions we've seen that have had the 95% majorities are all things about fairness.
00:48:21.140 Like, can that person have a different set of rules than you?
00:48:24.240 No, like, no, that's not fair.
00:48:26.100 And I think Americans also know the difference between, I think, mistakes and being completely corrupted.
00:48:32.600 And so you're allowed to make mistakes.
00:48:33.980 You're allowed to change your mind.
00:48:35.380 And it's wild to me how much of MAGA doesn't understand this.
00:48:38.200 Like, people make mistakes.
00:48:39.280 A lot of people were against Trump, changed their mind, came out with valid reasons why they changed their mind, and are now on board.
00:48:47.040 But it's like, okay, well, if you're just going to drift with the wind and make decisions and do performative stuff, like, ultimately, it comes down to if you've sold your integrity, like, you can't really get that back.
00:48:58.880 You know what I mean?
00:48:59.540 And so I think that what we're seeing is that most of the people have done that.
00:49:03.720 And they can't, they can't, in this new paradigm of media, social media, like the Twitter stuff, like, they're going to get destroyed.
00:49:14.740 Like, they, I think that politicians are not aware of how majorly things have changed.
00:49:21.200 And I think Tom Tillis would have been fine 20 years ago doing this kind of stuff.
00:49:25.840 And I think most of the people in Congress and the Senate are still operating with that mindset.
00:49:31.960 You're not going to be able to hide from this stuff anymore.
00:49:33.780 People will see through you.
00:49:34.980 Just, like, look at, again, all of the influencers that just got discovered taking money from the Indian lobby.
00:49:41.940 We're going to talk about that.
00:49:43.720 Yeah.
00:49:44.560 We're going to talk about that.
00:49:45.260 Yeah.
00:49:45.400 Well, that's a good segue.
00:49:47.020 Because a news story just came out.
00:49:48.820 But before we move on to that, I just had to pull up here because I wanted to pull up some of these people about, you know, righting the wrong.
00:49:55.960 I mean, J.D. Vance came out in 20 whatever year it was.
00:50:00.980 It was 20, maybe it was 2016.
00:50:05.600 He called Donald Trump a moral disaster, possibly America's Hitler.
00:50:08.920 You had him going after Donald Trump and Marco Rubio going after each other about hand sizes and sizes of other things.
00:50:16.120 Yeah, you're right.
00:50:16.940 You had Donald Trump going out there telling Ted Cruz's father that he assassinated.
00:50:21.140 I mean, you go down the list of some of these people.
00:50:24.200 Ted Cruz is now one of his staunch reporters.
00:50:27.700 Marco Rubio is turning out to be one of the greatest secretary of state this country has ever seen and one of Trump's biggest loyalists.
00:50:34.100 Okay.
00:50:34.780 Kasich never got on board.
00:50:36.000 Ben Carson, around the first time, absolutely adored by President Trump.
00:50:41.180 Jeb Bush, you know, he had a little bit of a rough time.
00:50:44.820 Rand Paul, another one we just spoke about, a little bit of a rough time.
00:50:47.640 Mike Huckabee, the ambassador to Israel right now.
00:50:51.220 Chris Christie was another one who had a very tough time.
00:50:53.980 Rick Santorum made amends with President Trump.
00:50:55.800 So, you know, you go down the list of these people who have, you know, most of them have righted the wrong.
00:51:00.620 Now, I guess we can't really hold people to account who said all these bad things about Donald Trump if he's not going to hold them to account.
00:51:07.320 And, you know, just using, for example, some of these people who said this.
00:51:11.460 Donald Trump is a very forgiving, forgiving, forgiving person to his own demise.
00:51:16.080 I think in some instances, if you look at things like Mitt Romney and what he did to President Trump, I think he's still upset that Donald Trump trolled him about the Secretary of State job.
00:51:25.620 Can you imagine how bad things would have been if he had him as Secretary of State?
00:51:28.920 But he's made amends with, you know, with some of these people and they corrected some of them corrected, you know, beyond beyond belief, in my opinion.
00:51:38.700 And maybe that's what it took.
00:51:42.080 I think if you publicly don't support Trump at this point, then you probably can't for some reason.
00:51:48.240 If you're a politician, I really like I think it played out like this.
00:51:51.380 I don't care about the public support, Mark, so much when you've got these guys stabbing in the back behind closed doors.
00:51:57.060 Uh, again, like I think everybody stabs everybody in the back in politics down in D.C.
00:52:05.500 And I think that I think the public is going to be less tolerant of that.
00:52:11.900 Let me frame Trump this way, is that, you know, Trump came on the scene with a different set of political promises, which was, hey, we're going to put America first.
00:52:22.780 And I think a lot of people in politics didn't believe him.
00:52:26.120 Yeah. And a lot of voters did.
00:52:28.340 And that's why he got elected to be the president the first time.
00:52:31.220 And it's like, I can understand if in 17, 18, 19 and 20, you were like, you know, I don't get Trump.
00:52:37.720 I think he's he's probably doing what I do, which is just make a bunch of lies up, try and convince people to vote for you.
00:52:43.860 But then it's like, OK, after COVID, after the border invasion, after January 6, Fed's direction, and then after people stuck with Donald Trump through all of that, and then they weaponized the Department of Justice after him.
00:53:01.840 Yeah. If at that point you can't find your way to publicly understand that Donald Trump wasn't lying about caring about voters first and voters know it.
00:53:14.340 And so if you are not supporting him, you probably should have a good reason if you're on the right.
00:53:20.160 Yeah. And I think the people that don't, it can probably be assumed that they're owned by somebody.
00:53:25.960 Yep. Who's the guy who's running for?
00:53:29.000 I'm trying to find it here.
00:53:30.220 The guy who's running for, I guess, is he running for the senator?
00:53:32.920 He's running for the governorship down in Georgia, who just came out and said behind closed doors, Donald Trump, there's no doubt in my mind, Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
00:53:43.500 If that's what you believe, be a man, come out and say it in the public domain.
00:53:49.720 What you say behind closed doors, be a man and come out and say it to the domain.
00:53:54.220 If that's what you believe, because if you believe that and Donald Trump is in the Epstein files and he's this terrible of a person, you could never support him because that would make him a horrible person.
00:54:02.880 If he's implicated toward a bad things.
00:54:05.360 So you're sitting here telling me, oh, well, this guy's a rapist.
00:54:09.400 He's a pedophile, but I still want his support.
00:54:12.900 Say what you mean and mean what you say is what Lou Dobbs used to tell me all the time.
00:54:17.340 Say what you mean and mean what you say.
00:54:19.660 And these guys are a bunch of cowards.
00:54:21.840 Now he'll go back.
00:54:23.020 What's his name?
00:54:23.840 He's from Georgia.
00:54:25.200 He's got white hair.
00:54:27.600 I'm going to have to look it up.
00:54:29.000 But goes behind the scenes and has all this to say.
00:54:34.100 And then he's probably the next week up Donald Trump's rear end.
00:54:38.240 And this is what I meant to do when I said I'd rather them be Trump behind closed doors than out here cheerleading for pom poms, because that's the real person you get behind the scenes.
00:54:48.600 Americans don't operate that way.
00:54:49.840 Like they don't cozy up to people that they think are literally offenders, right?
00:54:54.580 Like that's not the way it operates.
00:54:56.560 And it seems like it's just, you know, it's just the normal mode of function in politics.
00:55:02.160 Mike Collins is his name.
00:55:04.540 Mike Collins, who's, I guess, running for what is he running for?
00:55:08.900 He's either running for governor or he's running for the Senate.
00:55:11.240 They call him MAGA extremist on Georgia Democrat dot org.
00:55:16.020 MAGA extremist rep.
00:55:17.080 Mike Collins believe Trump is, quote, in the Epstein files and he wants them made public.
00:55:22.540 I know he's got a mullet.
00:55:24.540 Hey, I kind of do, too.
00:55:26.160 This is a what they call a Collins hot mic misstep.
00:55:31.060 No, it's not a misstep.
00:55:32.000 It's just showing who you are.
00:55:33.680 Yeah, it's a match.
00:55:34.600 Same thing.
00:55:35.460 Yeah.
00:55:36.120 The same thing that Vivaik did on Twitter with the H1Bs.
00:55:39.560 We're going to get mask off moment.
00:55:41.120 Now we all know what you stand for.
00:55:42.780 Sorry.
00:55:43.780 Exactly.
00:55:44.620 And he does stand for other stuff, but it's like, you know, now people question everything
00:55:50.640 that you support.
00:55:51.820 As they should, Mark.
00:55:53.300 And you know what?
00:55:53.840 It's probably easy.
00:55:54.900 I may be being a little bit too harsh, but it's probably easy for you and I to say because
00:55:58.100 we're not politicians.
00:55:59.520 We probably never will be.
00:56:00.840 Although I've had a lot of people try to afford me to run for various seats from Congress
00:56:06.960 to borough president to city council, I don't think I could ever bring myself to doing it
00:56:12.460 because I can't lie.
00:56:13.420 I have a very hard time lying with a straight face and I have a very hard time consciously
00:56:18.020 lying to somebody even about the dumbest things.
00:56:21.620 But these people do with a straight face and they sort of get this demonic cloak that
00:56:28.180 comes over them and it changes them as a person.
00:56:30.020 And I'm not entirely sure I'd ever want that to happen to me.
00:56:33.140 Actually, I'm positive.
00:56:34.040 I never want that to happen to me.
00:56:35.820 It's it takes a certain kind of person to run for office.
00:56:39.480 And there are very select few who don't fit this this narrative.
00:56:42.460 But it takes a very, very big transformation for you to become a politician that it's not
00:56:51.260 for everyone.
00:56:51.640 I don't think you can truly succeed without lying, unfortunately.
00:56:55.840 And there are people that get in and do succeed and somehow don't.
00:57:00.160 But I'm not a liar and I couldn't do it.
00:57:02.280 I'm the world's worst liar.
00:57:03.760 Yeah.
00:57:04.680 There's no way.
00:57:05.740 It was the same reason.
00:57:06.880 You know, they tried to court Lou Dobbs to run.
00:57:09.600 I think your buddy Steve Bannon tried to get him to run for president.
00:57:13.500 And back then, I guess it was maybe 06, they tried to get him to run for president.
00:57:19.080 And, you know, he told me he never entertained it.
00:57:21.720 I'm sure in his mind he probably did.
00:57:23.260 But his wife said, hell to the no, you're not running for president.
00:57:27.300 We've got this horse farm out in Sussex, New Jersey.
00:57:29.460 You're not going anywhere.
00:57:30.420 And then I, when I first met him, I said to him, what's wrong with you?
00:57:33.540 You should run for governor of New Jersey.
00:57:35.000 I said, you have the name recognition and you'd absolutely win.
00:57:38.700 And his wife, he's just a wonderful woman.
00:57:42.500 Debbie used to win.
00:57:43.060 Yeah, he would have won in 21.
00:57:44.580 Oh, he, 100%.
00:57:45.340 That was the year of Shiterella, who, you know, was not really dying.
00:57:50.440 Right.
00:57:50.920 So, but, you know, he never had it.
00:57:53.600 And I think it was because of that.
00:57:55.100 He can never look at somebody in the eye and lie to them.
00:57:57.340 He was probably the most truthful person I've ever worked for.
00:58:00.260 Yeah.
00:58:00.760 But he could never look at somebody in the eye.
00:58:01.680 If you're going to be in the governor of New Jersey, then you're at some point going to
00:58:04.600 have to have a run-in with the mob is part of the problem.
00:58:08.700 And you probably get gold bars put in your pocket.
00:58:13.560 But no, it definitely does take a certain sort of narcissist to do these jobs.
00:58:19.220 Nobody does it for the money because you can make a lot more money if you have a brain in
00:58:22.460 the private sector.
00:58:23.640 Let's turn to something that I think is probably going to tickle your fancy.
00:58:28.000 The number of foreign-born workers in the United States has declined by nearly 1 million since
00:58:33.800 President Donald Trump took office in January, reversing a trend that had driven much of
00:58:38.600 the country's growth in 2024, according to Labor Department data that was released today.
00:58:44.060 The foreign-born population dropped by about 2 million people between January and August
00:58:48.100 from 50.5 million to 48.5 million, while employment among foreign-born workers fell by 1 million over
00:58:54.580 the same period, according to this government data.
00:58:57.500 The decline represents a stark turnaround from 2024 when the foreign-born workforce expanded
00:59:02.460 by more than 2 million people.
00:59:04.020 Now, this comes out, Mark, coincidentally, just minutes ago, President Trump is reportedly
00:59:10.240 mulling a proposal that prevents tech firms from outsourcing all their workers to where?
00:59:16.000 India?
00:59:17.000 India?
00:59:18.000 India?
00:59:19.000 Bang.
00:59:20.000 There you go.
00:59:21.000 Yeah.
00:59:22.000 Jeopardy.
00:59:23.000 I love it.
00:59:25.000 You know, they just need to slap a tariff on call centers and automatically.
00:59:30.000 Oh, no.
00:59:31.000 Well, you know, I worked for Walmart.
00:59:35.000 As people who follow your show might know, I led a team of 100 people trying to fix problems
00:59:39.740 with their customer experience, their order experience.
00:59:43.080 So this doesn't happen to people who buy only on Amazon.
00:59:45.380 But when you buy from Walmart, there's a pretty good chance they're going to screw something
00:59:49.340 up with your order.
00:59:50.380 It's not going to come on time.
00:59:51.620 They're going to send you the wrong item.
00:59:52.980 They're going to not trigger important emails.
00:59:55.420 They're going to charge you twice.
00:59:56.660 All these different kinds of things.
00:59:57.920 Roughly, you know, between 30 and 50% of all the orders, and we knew because I measured
01:00:04.320 it, had a problem with them.
01:00:06.000 They had a 12% contact rate.
01:00:08.160 That means out of all of the orders, 12% of them generated a call to a call center.
01:00:14.280 By the way, Mark, I think Amazon is less than 1%.
01:00:16.700 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:18.000 Oh, it's like 0.1%.
01:00:19.380 There you go.
01:00:20.780 12% of all orders on Walmart e-commerce, the second largest e-commerce website in America,
01:00:27.460 each one of those contacts costs Walmart $4.
01:00:31.520 And that's with having 6,000 people in the Philippines who barely can speak English, who
01:00:37.500 are reading a script, who are wasting your time.
01:00:40.340 So you might think you found the cheapest price on Walmart, but when you price in your
01:00:44.540 time that you have to spend to fix your order by talking to somebody in the Philippines,
01:00:50.380 the numbers are staggering.
01:00:52.240 That's literally part of their business model.
01:00:54.120 They have Indian engineers coding insufficient enterprise solutions for their order flow,
01:01:01.720 and then they outsource the resolution of those problems to the Philippines.
01:01:07.020 And so I worked with those engineering teams.
01:01:09.460 I know that they find problems and sweep them under the rug.
01:01:12.620 I know that they try and make it look like somebody else's fault.
01:01:16.060 I know that they only hire themselves.
01:01:18.580 This is the most nepotistic culture I've ever seen.
01:01:21.060 And I saw how it played out at Walmart.
01:01:23.120 It plays out like this in every other company.
01:01:26.740 Somebody from Bangalore says, we're going to help you cut your engineering costs.
01:01:31.360 Well, we're going to open up an engineering center in Bangalore.
01:01:34.700 And then they say, well, you know, it needs to be led by an Indian VP.
01:01:38.240 And then they're like, well, you know, we're having a hard time communicating with them.
01:01:42.140 We need an Indian VP here as well.
01:01:44.200 Oh, well, we need to bring one of these teams over.
01:01:46.480 Oh, we need to bring some of these teams over.
01:01:48.160 And then all those people just start hiring Indians in San Francisco.
01:01:52.240 And so soon you have an Indian chief technology officer, a layer of Indian senior vice presidents, a layer of Indian vice presidents.
01:01:59.100 And all of a sudden, your engineering center in San Bruno, California is 95% Indian men.
01:02:05.900 And there's lots of sexual harassment that happens there.
01:02:09.780 You have no chance of getting a job in there.
01:02:11.840 And no, there's no cap.
01:02:13.600 There's no limit to what these people get paid.
01:02:15.560 They get paid just the same as anybody else.
01:02:17.280 And you have to hire two of them because their engineering is so bad because they don't believe in UAT testing and quality assurance.
01:02:23.520 So that's my experience with outsourcing.
01:02:26.500 They literally – it's a scam.
01:02:28.200 It's one more way in which Americans get screwed.
01:02:31.560 I think there's been some reports out that they're testing their standardized testing numbers.
01:02:35.220 They lie about how smart and how well they perform on their standardized testing before coming over to America.
01:02:42.220 I got to pull that report.
01:02:43.780 The 12% number –
01:02:44.520 Well, John, everything's a grift.
01:02:46.120 If you follow the rules, if you are – if you believe in Judeo-Christian principles and follow the rules of America, you're the sucker.
01:02:53.980 Because even – so then you have, like, people on visas or people here legally even, from what I understand, using earpieces and translators to pass the commercial driver's license exams so they can go out and kill Americans on the highways.
01:03:11.900 Yep.
01:03:12.380 Only to – what was the line from the Bronx tale?
01:03:17.480 The working man is a sucker.
01:03:19.100 And, I mean, it's sad, but it's true.
01:03:21.640 12% is absolutely insane.
01:03:24.080 Going back to Amazon.
01:03:25.020 Amazon has this thing down to a T.
01:03:26.560 You said 0.01% or 0.01%.
01:03:29.180 I mean, it's absolutely amazing.
01:03:31.760 But if you look at their numbers, Amazon doesn't make their money.
01:03:35.200 I never knew this until I looked at their financial statements.
01:03:36.980 The bulk of their money is not made.
01:03:39.040 Their profit margins on stuff, they probably lose money between their Amazon Prime shipping and their product margins being so slim because they have the cheapest price anywhere you can get on things.
01:03:50.200 Their money's not made on there.
01:03:52.260 That's sort of like a luxury to them.
01:03:53.720 Their money's made on their web hosting services.
01:03:55.860 AWS is where they're making most of their money right now.
01:03:59.120 It's very, very slim margins.
01:04:01.200 But they get it right, and they do such a good job at it.
01:04:03.960 And if you have a problem with your Amazon thing, you go on the Amazon, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo.
01:04:08.660 I ordered shampoo, and it was open.
01:04:10.500 No problem.
01:04:11.140 Keep that shampoo.
01:04:11.920 We'll send you a new one tomorrow.
01:04:13.120 I mean, losing money.
01:04:15.160 The return.
01:04:15.900 I have a friend who owns a store market.
01:04:17.200 I don't know if you know these exist.
01:04:18.580 I don't know if they exist outside of New York.
01:04:20.200 All of Amazon's returns, Amazon obviously probably takes them as a tax write-off, but they sell at a wholesale price in bulk to these stores.
01:04:27.380 And I have a friend who owns one.
01:04:28.860 And, I mean, some of the stuff that comes into these stores, I've gotten gun scopes.
01:04:32.020 I've gotten Bose headsets.
01:04:34.820 I mean, crazy, crazy, crazy stuff because they take everything back.
01:04:38.860 Their customer service, from what I understand, is mostly here in America, and it is absolutely unmatched.
01:04:45.780 Well, they immediately find if anything goes wrong, and they have a process to fix it.
01:04:50.140 This is a perfect example of organizational design and systems thinking.
01:04:54.380 And that's why Amazon succeeded because I actually saw Walmart hire a bunch of Amazon people to try and fix Walmart's crap, and they failed very rapidly.
01:05:03.000 Everybody's like, oh, they work for Amazon.
01:05:04.680 They're so smart.
01:05:05.360 No, the organization was just designed well in the beginning.
01:05:08.180 They set it up the right metrics.
01:05:10.420 They have the right feedback loops into place.
01:05:12.460 The right teams are connected and managed the right way so that if a problem gets found, it gets rapidly root cause and fixed.
01:05:20.820 And so they design a system that doesn't need 6,000 people in the Philippines, to be frank with you.
01:05:27.540 But here, again, is proof why I think libertarians are just dead wrong about everything, is because, look, Amazon has built a company that can't be competed with.
01:05:38.840 It has excellent delivery.
01:05:40.780 It's got prices nobody's going to be able to compete with.
01:05:44.780 And it's got a returns experience and customer experience nobody can compete with.
01:05:48.900 And it's all subsidized by Amazon Web Services.
01:05:51.480 That needs to be broken up.
01:05:53.240 How are you going to have any creative destruction?
01:05:55.080 Is literally everybody going to buy everything from Amazon in 10 years?
01:05:59.280 Is that where we're going?
01:06:00.760 There's not going to be any stores at all in America.
01:06:03.540 We're not going to have aspiring retail entrepreneurs setting up stores and strip malls.
01:06:10.200 And they're not going to be able to because everybody's going to go to Amazon.
01:06:12.980 You've got to destroy that crap.
01:06:14.560 You've got to split it in half.
01:06:16.180 And you know what?
01:06:16.740 But the fact that Amazon exists has like a really big part of the reason why every manufacturing job in America got outsourced to China.
01:06:26.300 Like all the stuff you buy, like literally try and find a good Amazon product that's still American.
01:06:33.860 Like Weber Grills.
01:06:34.880 I don't know where they're.
01:06:36.080 That's like one of the last ones I've ever seen.
01:06:37.900 For some reason, China has started manufacturing everything except for Weber Grills.
01:06:43.440 It's like, nope.
01:06:44.420 If you look for charcoal grill, there's still a Weber Grill on Amazon.
01:06:47.640 Everything else is like they put American product up.
01:06:51.900 It gets stolen by the lowest cost producer in China.
01:06:56.740 They manufacture it 95% as well.
01:06:59.920 And it's not a problem because Amazon's return experience.
01:07:02.240 It's truly a business model that, like I said, there's not big profit margins on it, but they're somehow staying afloat.
01:07:13.220 And Jeff Bezos somehow finds a way to pay for his yacht.
01:07:15.920 And his wife, it's really, as we're sitting here, I just got to text Mark.
01:07:20.120 He doesn't have to make a profit.
01:07:21.860 That's what, you know what I mean?
01:07:22.840 Like, and part of this is because public companies have a massive advantage too.
01:07:27.220 I don't think public companies should exist.
01:07:28.940 That's how crap like Cracker Barrel happens is because they're trying to make short-term profit-motivated decisions.
01:07:35.860 And they're not caring about the long-term success of the business, long-term shareholder capital growth.
01:07:41.340 They don't care about that.
01:07:42.660 I think you and I argued about this on the ride to Washington, D.C. for four hours about the – and I think we disagreed on it.
01:07:51.380 Goldman Sachs wasn't 10x levering detranched commercialized debt obligations back when it was a private partnership.
01:07:58.940 They were making, like, conservative bets.
01:08:01.200 They were building a real business.
01:08:02.480 The second that they have a public backstop, then they get into, like, the synthetic credit default swap orgies.
01:08:09.360 Like, that's what they do.
01:08:10.480 And that's what everybody does.
01:08:12.000 And you know what?
01:08:12.760 Like, Jeff Bezos too.
01:08:14.620 You know what I mean?
01:08:15.340 Like, he doesn't have to turn a profit.
01:08:17.680 I don't know if they pay a dividend or not.
01:08:19.740 But it's like, if the public equities are going to support him in every endeavor, like, why shouldn't he do it?
01:08:26.360 And that's how you get – he probably owns shipping companies in order to save three cents on each order.
01:08:31.960 He probably controls, like, probably, you know, controls massive amounts of, like, the fuel industry.
01:08:39.400 Like, who knows how vertically integrated this guy is because nobody says, well, you know what?
01:08:44.840 Like, it's good you did a good job, but it's, like, let's try and create some creative destruction here.
01:08:51.640 And that's the most anti-libertarianism thing I could say.
01:08:55.900 But it's true.
01:08:58.500 There's crony capitalism.
01:09:00.600 And, you know, like, unchecked, now we have a 21% of our GDP goes to health care costs.
01:09:07.220 Like, good job.
01:09:08.160 We've got to fix that.
01:09:09.040 Or our republic is done.
01:09:10.980 We can't figure out how to cut health care costs in America in half.
01:09:14.840 And, yes, that means closing a ton of hospitals and firing a ton of doctors.
01:09:18.440 It has to happen.
01:09:19.920 Like, you know, Pfizer should probably not be multi-trillant.
01:09:22.880 Like, however big Pfizer is, probably shouldn't have that sector of our economy be as big as it is because it all gets paid by the government and we can't afford it.
01:09:32.120 Yeah.
01:09:32.660 And you know what?
01:09:33.180 A big part of it, in my opinion, and I think probably statistically, is waste, fraud, and abuse.
01:09:37.540 So, they have nobody to thank but themselves for overture.
01:09:40.880 I mean, the health care.
01:09:42.380 We're subsidizing the whole world, too.
01:09:43.980 Oh, absolutely.
01:09:44.360 Our pharmaceutical costs are subsidizing the whole world.
01:09:46.580 Absolutely.
01:09:47.060 Especially when we can't make our own Tylenol here in America or Advil in America or whatever, you know, sort of drug that you have to take.
01:09:55.020 I get face cream from a dermatologist made in India, made in Canada.
01:09:59.320 I mean, it's just a shame.
01:10:00.460 It's such a disgrace that these American companies have been allowed to get away with this so long.
01:10:05.000 We should manufacture almost everything we want.
01:10:09.160 And, yes, that means that you can't have everything.
01:10:13.180 You know what, Mark?
01:10:14.680 I was having lunch at a restaurant with a friend who owns a restaurant last week.
01:10:19.420 And I was just sitting with him at the bar having lunch.
01:10:21.800 And this is the sentiment of these people.
01:10:25.040 And it pissed me off so much.
01:10:26.960 He said to me, he goes, how can I run this restaurant?
01:10:29.900 He asked me, he said, do you think ICE is coming here?
01:10:32.100 And I said, I hope so, to clear out the restaurant and everyone around it.
01:10:36.700 And I said, I hope so.
01:10:37.980 He goes, what do you mean you hope so?
01:10:39.360 I said, we've gotten ourselves in this situation.
01:10:41.740 And it's only going to get worse if we allow this to happen.
01:10:45.240 I said, you've got guys working back there that are illegal.
01:10:48.200 You've got guys that are working back there with fake papers.
01:10:50.520 I can guarantee it.
01:10:52.160 And I said to him, he goes, well, they're giving me papers.
01:10:54.720 I go, and you know they're fake.
01:10:56.440 And I said, because it pisses me off.
01:11:00.280 And some of these people have been in this country 20, 30 years working.
01:11:03.500 They have kids in this country.
01:11:04.380 I said, that's not my problem.
01:11:06.620 Tell that to the guy who went to Ellis Island.
01:11:08.980 Tell that to the guy who came to this country and spent $100,000 to get papers, to have the open business, whatever you had to do to get papers.
01:11:14.840 I have a friend who's going through the process right now.
01:11:16.960 It's cost him so far $25,000.
01:11:18.940 He's here on a visa, on a green card.
01:11:21.500 And he's working to get a visa for two years.
01:11:22.860 I think it's cost him like $20,000 with his lawyers.
01:11:25.040 He's doing it the right way.
01:11:26.740 Guess what?
01:11:27.360 His visa expires in two months, Mark.
01:11:29.200 You know what he said to me?
01:11:30.240 I said to him, I said, I won't say his name.
01:11:32.260 I said, whatever you do, don't overstay your visa.
01:11:34.580 He goes, absolutely not.
01:11:35.720 He goes, if that expires before this happens, I'm going back to Europe.
01:11:38.900 He's from Europe.
01:11:39.640 I'm going back to Europe, and I'll start the process again.
01:11:42.780 Why is it fair that someone like that respects this country and the orders and the law, border, and orders?
01:11:50.260 But someone from Mexico or Honduras or Guatemala can come here for 20 years, have a kid and a whole family.
01:11:55.800 So going back to the story, I said, I hope they come here because it needs to happen.
01:11:59.820 And he goes off to close my business.
01:12:01.180 I said, then so be it.
01:12:02.280 You know what?
01:12:02.640 25 years ago, restaurants survived without hiring illegals.
01:12:06.960 Construction companies survived without hiring illegals.
01:12:09.380 And guess what?
01:12:10.380 When you leave the New York Tri-State or you leave California, middle America, there is overwhelming majority of them.
01:12:17.460 There's not illegals in kitchens.
01:12:19.200 It's kids who are in high school.
01:12:20.380 It's kids who are in college.
01:12:21.340 And I said, you know what?
01:12:22.840 I said, you'll have to pay an extra five bucks an hour, four bucks an hour.
01:12:26.340 It ain't going to kill you because your prices are so high to begin with already.
01:12:30.360 So you know what?
01:12:31.020 Your profit margin comes down a little bit and you pay an American worker.
01:12:34.820 That's how it's got to be.
01:12:37.800 Yeah, we started early in the show talking about institutional trust.
01:12:42.140 And now we're talking about like literally integrity in society.
01:12:45.820 And it's like you kind of feel for him.
01:12:48.540 It's like, yeah, if he can't compete unless he breaks the rules.
01:12:52.220 And so we live in a society where every freaking person has to break the rules in order.
01:12:57.240 And what kind of world are we trying to like raise our kids up to be principal?
01:13:01.360 Why is that fair, Mark?
01:13:02.200 You and I don't break the rules.
01:13:03.380 You and I pay our taxes every year, honestly.
01:13:05.620 You and I report on every single dollar, at least me.
01:13:08.640 I'm sure you do because you're a man with high integrity.
01:13:11.080 We report on every dollar we make.
01:13:12.980 Someone who's hiring illegals is not reporting every dollar.
01:13:15.120 I'll tell you why.
01:13:15.760 Because cash is coming in the register and it's going back out the register to pay these people.
01:13:20.540 That's how you escape the system.
01:13:22.060 OK, so they're underreporting their taxes.
01:13:24.220 And the reason I know this is because I have a boss who went to jail for it, a former congressman who went to jail for it, underreporting taxes, tax evasion.
01:13:31.520 And they get you at wire fraud and mail fraud, however you paid them.
01:13:33.960 If you paid them by a check, it's mail fraud.
01:13:35.880 If you paid them by a wire, you know, whatever.
01:13:38.480 That's how I know.
01:13:39.280 So why is it fair for you and I to come to work every single day and every dollar we make is paid?
01:13:46.140 And that's fine.
01:13:46.960 That's how it has to be is paid tax on.
01:13:49.260 But these people get to escape by not only by paying illegals, by hiring illegals, by having cheap labor, but by undercutting their taxes.
01:13:55.720 It's not fair.
01:13:57.480 OK, societal failure.
01:13:59.520 Three minutes.
01:14:00.360 I got to end with this.
01:14:01.200 So this is literally society failing.
01:14:03.200 And everybody says, oh, things are going in the right direction.
01:14:05.980 We got Trump in the White House and the 18 to 39 year olds are moving to the right.
01:14:10.080 And no, they're not.
01:14:12.080 And I have new polling.
01:14:13.480 You know what?
01:14:14.440 This is just out yesterday.
01:14:17.560 Stoppingsocialism.com.
01:14:18.560 Work with us on this.
01:14:19.900 So, yeah, they did vote for Trump more than any Republican in the past.
01:14:23.600 But we just asked 18 to 39 year olds.
01:14:27.640 Would you like to see a Democrat socialist candidate win the 2028 election?
01:14:32.780 Fifty three percent say yes.
01:14:34.460 Twenty seven percent say no.
01:14:36.640 And 76 percent of them agree that major industries like health care, energy and big tech should be nationalized to give more control and equity to the people.
01:14:45.520 And so the problem is, is that we've built a society that has no room for these people.
01:14:50.000 It's it's hostile to them.
01:14:51.580 They can't start principled lives and build families.
01:14:55.200 They just can't anymore.
01:14:56.500 And it's because everybody fails the shopping cart test.
01:14:59.340 And that is like, hey, you see a shopping cart in the in the parking lot.
01:15:04.000 Are you going to put it back or not?
01:15:05.700 Nobody's watching.
01:15:06.700 It's the right thing to do.
01:15:08.360 And I think that everybody like that's the problem.
01:15:10.980 We have an individualistic society.
01:15:12.820 People lined up around the block to volunteer to go storm the beaches of Normandy.
01:15:17.860 And then we had to hunt people down to ship them over to Vietnam.
01:15:21.280 What would happen now if we were in an existential war?
01:15:24.280 I'm super concerned.
01:15:26.020 But history tells us that we'll get back to that World War Two lines around the block.
01:15:30.360 Yeah.
01:15:30.640 People to volunteer.
01:15:31.760 And I don't know what's going to cause that, but it has to happen.
01:15:35.320 The young people are begging for it.
01:15:37.720 And we'll see.
01:15:39.520 Change has to come.
01:15:40.360 As I was saying, I got a text here before we wrap.
01:15:43.740 Hey, can Eric Adams come on your podcast?
01:15:46.480 He'd like to come on.
01:15:48.040 That should be fun.
01:15:50.120 We'll see how we can make that work.
01:15:51.760 Maybe we'll take Mark with us to Gracie Manchin.
01:15:53.740 We'll do this interview in person.
01:15:55.220 We'll take that.
01:15:55.980 That's fun.
01:15:56.180 Well, my advice for him is that he's got to talk to somebody in the Trump administration.
01:16:00.820 They got to they got to open a federal case into Cuomo.
01:16:04.060 Like, that's the easiest solution here.
01:16:08.140 Mark Mitchell, the people are keep asking me, are you going to go back to your normal schedule
01:16:12.680 and get back to work and stop being lazy because they missed your show?
01:16:16.500 Yeah.
01:16:16.700 OK, well, show me my by going to YouTube and looking at my video yesterday.
01:16:21.040 I go into how the Republican Party can be fixed in more detail than I talked about here.
01:16:25.240 Rasmussen underscore poll on YouTube.
01:16:27.140 And I promise I will stream Tuesday, Thursday next week.
01:16:30.320 There you go.
01:16:31.160 The great Mark Mitchell at Honest Pollster on Twitter.
01:16:33.300 Mark, we'll see you soon, my friend.
01:16:34.840 Great.
01:16:35.180 Great to be here.
01:16:35.660 Thanks.
01:16:36.560 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today here on The Great America Show.
01:16:39.040 I hope you all have a great weekend.
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01:16:44.380 way will be at the forefront.
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