The Marxist-Democrat regime is on a mission to destroy the American Dream, the American way of life, justice and truth, and the Constitution. The Democratic Party is a criminal enterprise, a fifth column within our nation, and they are hell-bent on destroying America.
00:01:10.220And there is no way you and I can avert our eyes, even if we wanted to.
00:01:15.460And you and I are in the fight, no matter what.
00:01:18.780Because the Marxist-Dems and their allies, domestic and foreign, mean to end the American dream, to destroy our way of life, the American way, justice, and truth.
00:01:31.920And nothing scares the totalitarian Marxist-Dems more than truth.
00:01:36.540Look at what Elon Musk has revealed at Twitter.
00:01:40.540The Justice Department and FBI directing censorship of free speech on Twitter to serve the left.
00:01:47.520To suppress Trump supporters and conservatives and anything that undercut Biden and the Marxist-Dems.
00:01:54.900No foreign government had ever done such damage to the American public's constitutional rights, to our right to know, to our freedom of speech, and influenced a presidential election to boot.
00:03:13.560And he has done something about what he said.
00:03:17.020And here we are, these years later, with some Republicans still thinking we can get along, go along, with those who mean to tear down this country.
00:03:29.520If you hear a Republican talk about bipartisanship, you've just heard a Republican admit that he or she is a collaborator with the party that means to destroy truth.
00:03:44.220Our media, by the way, is already gone.
00:03:47.600Do you really, really want the FBI knocking on your door?
00:03:53.260The FBI, the Department of Justice, are corrupt fascists.
00:03:57.540And our courts, not many, aren't in the hands of the Marxist Dems and the American way.
00:04:04.160We don't hear much about America these days, do we?
00:04:07.580They mean to take us down, and America with us.
00:04:12.280Our impaired president was asked this week why, while in Arizona, he still wouldn't go to the southern border.
00:04:20.400President Biden said, because there are more important things going on.
00:04:25.200This, from a president who obviously doesn't care about the hundreds of thousands of Americans who've been killed by fentanyl and opiates brought into the United States across that border.
00:04:38.240Because Biden keeps that border open to not only deadly drugs, but sex trafficking, human smuggling, and the millions of illegal immigrants who've entered the country in just the past two years.
00:04:53.460This is not a time for Republicans, for independents, to be compromising, or to accommodate or appease the Marxist left.
00:05:03.600And the Republicans who want to just go along, the RINOs, the McConnell, McDaniel, Thune, Romney, and in the House, Kevin McCarthy, who wants to be Speaker of the House, of course.
00:05:16.640Paul Ryan's choice to be Speaker, hand-picked.
00:05:22.120Thank God Congressman Andy Biggs has challenged Kevin McCarthy for the Speakership.
00:05:29.580And thank God four other congressmen are standing with Biggs to assure the House begins representing the people, and not K Street, the lobbyists, special interests, and the Marxist Dems.
00:05:41.380Those other congressmen standing with Biggs, Matt Rosendale, Ralph Norman, Bob Good, Matt Gaetz.
00:05:48.960They're doing a great thing for this country, and they're doing it under tremendous pressure and attack.
00:05:56.680Our guest today is Congressman Matt Gaetz, member of the House Judiciary Committee, the Armed Services Committee.
00:06:03.780And Congressman Gaetz, first, congratulations on what you and your colleagues are doing for this country.
00:06:10.900And my thanks, and I know everyone listening to our voices today, thank you as well.
00:06:17.280I know you mean to take the challenge to the RINO leadership all the way.
00:06:21.300What do you see unfolding as your challenge progresses?
00:06:26.360Well, I think the American people know that Washington is broken.
00:06:30.640And we have a corrupt system that advances people through leadership based on their ability to launder special interest money from the PACs and the federal lobbyists into the coffers of members' campaigns.
00:06:43.820And I think we ought to raise our gaze and be better than that and do something other than maybe what Washington would expect of us.
00:06:54.160I think in a very slim majority, we're going to need a speaker with broad credibility across every aspect of the Republican conference.
00:07:02.880And we've got to find somebody who doesn't have five objectors.
00:07:06.100And at the end of the day, we're in a process of elimination exercise right now.
00:07:11.800I think there are 221 members of Congress out of the 222 I'd be open-minded to at least listen to and see if there's a vision to bring us together and to win against the Democrats.
00:07:25.120Because what I recall out of Kevin McCarthy, when he was Paul Ryan's majority leader, and we actually had subpoena power, and Jim Jordan and Ron DeSantis and Mark Meadows and I were asking for it to expose a lot of these deep state lies before they manifested into what we see today, Kevin McCarthy sat on his hands.
00:07:45.740He wasn't an advocate for strenuous oversight.
00:07:48.860He was right there to do the bidding of Paul Ryan.
00:07:52.160And I just don't think that he has passed the leadership test in the time that he's served in these various roles.
00:08:00.060And I think if we had somebody new, we'd be far more effective.
00:08:04.560And I think there are a lot of people who agree with you.
00:08:07.540And what's really interesting to me, as I've covered these leadership battles over the years and votes, is that this is an outright threat against the conference.
00:08:20.000It's Kevin McCarthy saying, you know, I mean, basically it would be Armageddon and the Democrats would take over.
00:08:30.240When point of fact, what you're not doing is proceeding to follow the leader, as has been the case for the Republicans.
00:08:37.720And it's how the Republicans got in this shape, in my opinion, Congressman, is they they are elected by moderates and conservatives and independents across the country and then come to Washington and then turn the whole thing over to rhinos.
00:08:53.220And by the way, the Democratic Party doesn't have a counterpart to rhinos.
00:08:58.340So why do you guys always find a rhino to take over a conservative MAGA agenda, for example?
00:09:06.800Well, the rhino is actually in its natural habitat at a lobbyist fundraiser.
00:09:12.140They are the most adept and skilled and, you know, I think capable in an environment where basically you trade your vote to special interest groups that often have America last principles on trade and immigration that that they embrace.
00:09:30.260And so the rhino is actually quite skilled at being able to convert special interest money into campaign money.
00:09:37.700And it just so happens that's sort of the principal covenant of leadership to the members of the House of Representatives.
00:10:02.620And I just, you know, don't believe that we ought to begin that effort with somebody who, when the chips are down, seems to make poor judgment calls.
00:10:11.800I mean, you'll remember when I initially sought the ouster of Liz Cheney after she backed impeachment and wouldn't shut up about it.
00:10:19.800Kevin McCarthy stood before the conference and kept her in that position for months before ultimately acquiescing to her removal.
00:10:28.300Like, that wasn't a good judgment call.
00:10:30.440That's not someone who has passed the test of leadership.
00:10:33.600You know, he was recorded on a phone conversation saying that because I traveled to Wyoming,
00:10:39.140actually did your show from the steps of the Wyoming Capitol to make my political critique of Liz Cheney,
00:10:46.820he said that that might have been provoking violence in our politics.
00:10:52.220And, you know, I think we deserve leaders who understand that critique and debate are actually the things that stop a civilized society from devolving into violence.
00:11:02.800But the argument people make for Kevin is that he's raised more money than anyone in the history of time for Republican candidates.
00:11:10.360And so they think he just deserves it as a consequence.
00:11:13.740And I don't think the country is well served if that is the principal metric.
00:11:18.920And going to the metrics that I agree with you that do count, what has been his leadership moment?
00:11:25.360What has been that decision he's taken, that position that he has staked out that required courage and principle and true leadership,
00:11:38.100that for which he should be memorialized and also which would be the foundation of his seeking the speakership?
00:11:47.400Well, he would point to the fact that he holds the record for the longest speech ever on the floor of the House of Representatives.
00:11:57.200And to cite that in the absence of substantive wins for our people,
00:12:02.260I think tells you all you need to know about the bloviating and blather that often constrains Washington, D.C.,
00:12:09.240rather than directing us to actually solve the problems that people are facing.
00:12:13.720You know, the hobgoblin argument that's been thrown out there is that, oh, well,
00:12:20.100if Republicans are divided on McCarthy, that somehow Hakeem Jeffries is going to become speaker.
00:12:25.800The reality is Hakeem Jeffries has 212 votes and it takes 218 to become speaker.
00:12:33.340There's not one Republican that would vote for a Democrat, even the impeachers, even the most moderate among the group.
00:12:40.720But, you know, the true question is whether or not Republicans will get into the posture of realizing that this is a process of elimination exercise,
00:12:51.160or if we're going to begin our term in the majority unable to elect a speaker.
00:12:57.440And I've got to tell you, Lou, that could be a very real possibility.
00:14:51.880I think we need time to review the legislation.
00:14:54.360I believe that the motion to vacate the chair should exist, as it did for more than 200 years,
00:14:59.900as envisioned by Thomas Jefferson and is ultimately utilized by Mark Meadows.
00:15:04.720I mean, these are things that allow the Congress, I think, to be more dynamic and more effective and less dangerous to people.
00:15:13.580A lot of times the really bad stuff that happens to people happens as a result of the tools the leadership uses to force people to take votes,
00:15:21.340where if you want to pay the troops, you have to greenlight wokeness.
00:15:25.380If you want to ensure that America's resilient on manufacturing, you have to give on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
00:16:49.960You know, no real effective building of people's skill stack to stop the craziness like we saw go on in Arizona this last election.
00:16:58.100You have Mitch McConnell, who's a re-election in the Senate.
00:17:01.000You know, I don't know that there's like a whole contingent of like McConnell Republicans out there that are going to swing us back into broad power throughout the country.
00:17:09.540And then you have Kevin McCarthy, who has been campaigning for this job essentially for 18 years.
00:17:40.620I can tell you that, you know, I try to be accountable for my own vote.
00:17:44.320And I think that, you know, certainly for every person who's made their attention known, you know, there are others who've made their attention known only to Kevin McCarthy.
00:17:53.360So Kevin McCarthy actually knows that the number is considerably larger than five of us.
00:17:58.840Some folks have tried to, not in the public eye, but go meet with him privately to express that they just simply can't get there to voting for him and that it would probably be best if he allowed us to consider other candidates and released his votes.
00:18:11.160And we'll see how he goes through that deliberative process that if we end up in some situation where we look, you know, kind of ungovernable on January 3rd, that will be by Kevin McCarthy's hand.
00:18:25.740That will be because his his quest for power meant more than the math equation that we find ourselves in with the majority of our of our current size.
00:18:36.580Yeah, because this could have well been handled by through negotiation with the Freedom Caucus, with the five of you and others in the conference.
00:18:47.000What I also find interesting is whether where the Dems have an opportunity here to to really bring great, great gravitas back to the House and to to actually reform the system, which is broken, frankly, on both sides of the aisle.
00:19:08.080They they really are talking substantively.
00:19:11.080Why would they not want to decentralize power to the committee?
00:19:14.600Why wouldn't they want to decentralize power to the individual representative?
00:19:20.580Why wouldn't they want hearings and amendments and a return to the traditional process in the House of the people?
00:19:29.780Well, there actually are some who may.
00:19:32.100And we'll see if we can get consensus on the issues we can get consensus on, not that give the Democrats, you know, any additional advantage,
00:19:40.900but that simply give Americans the advantage of seeing what bills are being introduced.
00:19:45.760I mean, I have been actively talking with Democrats about about rules that were not waivable, that that required legislation to be available for review with time to read it and cross reference it and talk to our constituents about its impact on their lives.
00:20:02.940Because so much of the law of this place is the surprise element that the leadership really visits on the rest of us.
00:20:10.480And so, yes, is the answer to your question.
00:20:13.000We should be reaching out to anyone who would try to unlock the mystery of this place because it's the smoke and mirrors.
00:20:22.200It's all of the gamesmanship that ultimately works against average folks who just want strong borders, safe streets, a government that does not restrict their freedom or limit the choices they have in their lives.
00:20:34.880And, you know, a U.S. economy that actually gets people optimistic again.
00:20:39.420I mean, Lou, how many conversations have you and I had about economic issues where we're talking about, you know, new areas of productivity under the Trump administration, new companies choosing to reshore capital, you know, additional investment going into the jobs of tomorrow.
00:20:54.540And now we seem to be a country in decline with a president in decline, and we don't have to live that way.
00:21:02.040President Trump showed us that we can will our way and we can use smart policy to execute on great prosperity.
00:21:09.100But I don't think that's going to happen with Joe Biden as president.
00:21:11.980I think we're going to have to showcase to the American people how corrupt these folks are, how weaponized this government is against them.
00:21:18.620And we're going to have to wake up a lot of Americans to the realities and the challenges that we face in this day and in this era.
00:21:26.420And it's not going to be the politics of the past that get us to electoral success again, but certainly the America First vision is the way to create that coalition of winning.
00:21:38.760And I love the fact that people like Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, think for some reason that they are major factors in national American politics because they had the good fortune to have a president by the name of Donald J.
00:21:57.220Donald J. Trump, who disrupted the system and gave the party both direction and light and a philosophy that that people rallied to and still do.
00:22:11.600And at the same time, we look at the Freedom Caucus.
00:22:16.000There's a possibility here that some of the most conservative members of the House truly are the ones who have the ability to shape a reformed House
00:22:24.480and move together in a bipartisan fashion with the Democrats rather than the RINOs who would want to trade off every every element of MAGA and America First,
00:22:41.260bury it and do it the Democrat way that is the Marxist dem way.
00:22:45.840So as we are wrapping up here, let me ask you this with with all of this in prospect, what do you think will be the outcome,
00:22:59.160the most likely outcome here over the next couple of weeks?
00:23:03.480Is there immense pressure within the conference to come to some sort of resolution?
00:23:09.020Just closure is are those forces at work and how strong are they?
00:23:14.400Well, I think Kevin has a sufficient number of people who, despite our critical mass of objectors,
00:23:21.620that they are willing to go to the floor and cast their vote for Kevin McCarthy.
00:23:26.520The question is whether or not they're they're willing to delay their prize committee posts and their chairmanships and the ability to convene meetings under the House rules
00:23:37.700because we're unable to elect a speaker.
00:23:40.140And so we may end up in an extended standoff.
00:23:43.600And I guess the news I'm sharing with you is that I'm ready for that.
00:23:47.940If it means that we have to take weeks or months to organize, I would rather get it right than just continue to follow the same script that has been written over managed American decline for decades in Washington, D.C.
00:24:03.180And I just won't be a part of it anymore.
00:24:05.740And that's why I think that, you know, the likely outcome is a floor fight over the speakership, a potential delay in the selection of the speaker,
00:24:16.220and then hopefully ultimately the embrace of a paradigm that has us draw to the conservative center of our conference that wants to expose the truth about the Biden administration
00:24:27.500and that understands that we have to use every point of leverage in this majority to stop the country from being lost.
00:24:34.740Well, I want to I want to tell you, I salute you, Congressman Biggs, Congressman Good, Ralph Norman, Congressman Rosendale, all of you.
00:24:47.160Your your fortitude in this is important to the country.
00:24:51.880And I think the American people are now awakening because of your actions and what you are bringing to the forefront of the public consciousness.
00:25:00.340I think they're aware of the service that you're providing to the nation because we cannot continue to have the this is, after all, a government that requires the consent of the governed.
00:25:13.480And if the House of Representatives can't represent, it's not much of a house, is it?
00:25:19.060Well, we are the people's house, and I think it would be best if we did our work in great service to them.