The Great America Show - December 15, 2022


REP. STEUBE SAYS WE SHOULD SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE IMMIGRATION PROCESS UNTIL OUR BORDER CRISIS IS BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL


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Rep. Greg Stubbe (R-Florida) is a member of the Judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees in the House of Representatives and represents Florida's 17th congressional district. He is also the co-founder of the Freedom Caucus, which is trying to elect a new House Speaker.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:04.180 What a country we have. America is truly beautiful, and that's despite the way we Americans run our government, our politics, and our national lives.
00:00:13.560 But we usually do find our way forward. That's usually, not always.
00:00:19.360 Take, for example, what the Republicans are doing right now.
00:00:23.340 Projected to win a huge majority in the House, 20 to 30 seats, some thought maybe 40 to 50.
00:00:30.600 But the GOP turned out to be just lucky enough to eke out the smallest midterm gains for any party out of power in decades.
00:00:39.420 But they won control of the House. And unfortunately, they also appear intent on screwing it up.
00:00:46.660 Kevin McCarthy won nomination to be Speaker. But he's a rhino. He is a very nice guy. He is very likable. 0.95
00:00:54.320 Heck, I like Kevin. But there's no way the Republican Conference should have nominated a rhino to be Speaker. 1.00
00:01:01.920 And certainly no way they should turn over the third most powerful office in our government to a Romney-Ryan rhino. 0.77
00:01:09.500 And now that everybody understands that Congressman Andy Biggs, the co-founder of the Freedom Caucus, means business in running against McCarthy,
00:01:19.200 they're also coming to the realization there are more than enough votes to block McCarthy.
00:01:25.780 More than enough.
00:01:26.800 And the establishment rhinos are now pulling out the stops. 0.95
00:01:31.520 First, fear-mongering.
00:01:33.220 Declaring the Democrats will figure out a way to steal the Speaker's gavel if there's a lot of debate 0.85
00:01:39.160 and days taken in making a decision about the Speaker.
00:01:43.780 It's all pure nonsense, of course.
00:01:46.200 And now they're saying that a fight for the Speakership will delay investigations
00:01:50.400 of Biden's corruption and his disastrous border policies, and the list goes on.
00:01:56.960 Again, it's all nonsense.
00:02:00.440 So what if there is a delay?
00:02:02.760 This isn't an intramural contest.
00:02:05.380 It's a fight for the soul of the Republican Party,
00:02:07.800 and ultimately the only force capable of stopping the Marxist Dems
00:02:12.660 and their destruction of all that is America.
00:02:15.940 When President Obama said he wanted the fundamental transformation of America,
00:02:21.740 that was a war cry.
00:02:23.760 And the Marxist Dems listened, and Republicans didn't.
00:02:28.000 They didn't get the message, and they didn't respond.
00:02:31.320 Obama's fundamental transformation is far advanced,
00:02:35.640 and it was far advanced by the time Trump took the presidency.
00:02:39.380 And what has ensued over the past six years
00:02:42.340 has been a battle between the Marxist Dems, corporate globalists,
00:02:46.740 and the Obama deep state against the Trump MAGA Republicans,
00:02:51.620 middle-class populists, and working families.
00:02:53.880 It is a war waged by the Marxist Dems and the deep state against America.
00:03:00.960 And most Republican leaders, unfortunately,
00:03:04.280 appear to only now be realizing the stakes,
00:03:08.440 the republic's very survival, and their own.
00:03:12.360 Our guest is Congressman Greg Stubbe.
00:03:14.580 He represents Florida's 17th District.
00:03:17.060 He's a member of two of the most important House committees,
00:03:20.380 Judiciary and Foreign Affairs.
00:03:22.560 Congressman Stubbe, first of all,
00:03:24.020 it's great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.
00:03:27.200 Congratulations on your re-election and the GOP winning back the House.
00:03:32.280 Let's start, if we may, with what's happening right now
00:03:35.600 in the fight for the speakership.
00:03:37.580 What do you see happening, and what do you want to happen?
00:03:40.620 Yeah, it's interesting times, obviously, to serve in Washington.
00:03:44.240 We thought that we would win the majority by a lot more than we won the majority.
00:03:48.460 And I believe McCarthy can only lose four votes on the floor.
00:03:52.620 And as we talk, there are five Republican members who have said publicly that they will not support him.
00:04:00.440 This week, there's going to be a meeting on the rules.
00:04:03.560 The big sticking point for a lot of the Freedom Caucus has been some of the rules
00:04:08.200 and allowing your rank-and-file members more ability and taking some of the power from leadership
00:04:13.320 as it relates to how the process internally works in the House
00:04:17.120 and obviously allowing the American people more influence in that,
00:04:20.900 which I fully support a lot of those rules.
00:04:23.540 And so I think some of that will be resolved this week,
00:04:27.480 but I have not heard from those five that if that is resolved, if they're going to support Kevin.
00:04:33.900 So Kevin's got a numbers problem, and the numbers problem is he's got five people
00:04:38.300 that are publicly saying no, and he can't lose more than four.
00:04:42.700 Then there's been six members that signed a letter directly to him saying,
00:04:46.820 these are specific rule changes that we would like to see.
00:04:51.340 And if we don't get these rule changes, then they're not going to support him.
00:04:54.880 So that brings the number to 11.
00:04:56.520 And obviously, there's no way to get there.
00:04:58.360 I've talked to some leaders of the Freedom Caucus,
00:05:01.660 and they feel optimistic that Mr. McCarthy is going to come to the middle on some of these rule changes.
00:05:10.300 There's a lot that can happen, obviously, between now and January 3rd.
00:05:14.860 But unlike the conference vote where McCarthy won 188 to 31, unlike the conference vote,
00:05:22.640 you got to get – it's not just – it doesn't necessarily have to be 218.
00:05:26.500 It's the voters that are present or the members that are present in voting.
00:05:31.900 So if every single member of the House is there and we're at 435, it's 218.
00:05:36.220 But like Karen Bass just got elected to mayor of L.A., so she's not going to be there, 0.92
00:05:40.740 and they have to have a special election for her seat. 1.00
00:05:42.540 So there's probably not going to be 435.
00:05:44.440 There's probably going to be like 433, so that lowers the number that McCarthy needs to get to.
00:05:51.280 But that makes more – if there's more people saying no, that makes it harder for him to get there.
00:05:55.540 So I think a lot of this is going to get worked out.
00:05:58.720 I think the American people want us to show a united front that, hey, we're a Republican conference.
00:06:03.940 We're going to stick together.
00:06:04.860 And although we have a difference of some opinions, we're going to work together to accomplish the goals that the American people elected us to do.
00:06:12.360 I think, Congressman, if I may, my perspective is somewhat different.
00:06:18.140 It seems to me the American people don't want no more of the Republican nonsense.
00:06:22.520 And by that I mean putting committee chairmen into roles in which they basically are toothless and unarmed,
00:06:32.040 coming together as a conference and putting up one of the premier rhinos to lead what is a conservative conference, 0.99
00:06:41.240 conference in point of fact, a MAGA, and much of it MAGA and America First.
00:06:47.740 I think they're a little dismayed at the games that are being played by the Republican Party.
00:06:53.060 I think that McCarthy, in my opinion, has made huge mistakes.
00:06:57.500 He told the Freedom Caucus his first bargaining position was to go to hell.
00:07:01.180 That wasn't smart.
00:07:03.680 And he is embracing a lot of rhinos on those committee, those chairmanships of committees that are really important.
00:07:14.340 What are your thoughts about that?
00:07:17.060 Yeah, I mean, if Jim Jordan was running, I would be very adamant about Jim being the speaker.
00:07:23.260 But Jim isn't running.
00:07:25.620 And when I first got elected four years ago, Jim ran against Kevin.
00:07:28.600 And I guess since then, they've kind of hashed out their differences.
00:07:31.960 But Jordan is supporting him.
00:07:33.880 But I do not disagree with you for a second on the committee process, the way the steering process worked.
00:07:40.160 There's a number of different amendments that the Freedom Caucus has that would address those issues.
00:07:46.160 And frankly, it's going to impact my decision on if I stay on judiciary and foreign affairs and make a move somewhere else based on who the leadership of those committees are going to be.
00:07:54.800 And we don't have what we should have within the conference, a meritocracy, where we put the best.
00:08:01.780 I play baseball, and I'm a former military guy, so I'm a big team guy.
00:08:06.840 And you put your best players on the field.
00:08:09.040 You put your best players in positions where you can accomplish the mission on the battlefield.
00:08:13.860 And if we're not going to do that, then it's a huge discouragement to the base back home when you put a rhino in charge of one of the most powerful committees. 1.00
00:08:23.200 And it's also unfortunate because we're not going to get the things done that we want to get done.
00:08:28.180 And I can tell you from being very active during the campaign season in my own district, going to almost every other day, I was at Republican Club meetings.
00:08:37.140 I was at events in my district.
00:08:39.500 And the base does not want us to do things the way Paul Ryan did things.
00:08:45.060 They want us to go up there and do the things that the American people want us to do, like shut down the border, impeach Mayorkas, the type of things that the American people are claiming for. 1.00
00:08:54.960 And the American people gave us the House.
00:08:56.900 And if we don't do those things, we're going to do what happened with Paul Ryan, and we're going to lose the majority again.
00:09:02.380 Or worse, we're going to lose a republic.
00:09:06.980 We don't have time to screw around anymore.
00:09:09.740 I think it's that dire.
00:09:11.860 I don't think there's any time here for platitudes and pleasantries.
00:09:15.820 Either the Republican Party decides that it can't compromise with Marxist Dems who are destroying the nation before our very eyes.
00:09:23.080 You can look at any public policy that they are initiating and supporting or advocating, and none of it is none, not one, is in the interest of the United States of America or relates to our heritage, our values, our foundation, and our founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
00:09:44.500 So I don't understand why there's even a discussion in the Republican conference about putting a man with a track record that Kevin McCarthy possesses even near the speakership.
00:09:56.180 I don't understand why a Mike Turner would be the person that you would want to have chairing the Intelligence Committee.
00:10:05.440 I think, for example, there's some great selections as well.
00:10:09.420 James Comer at Oversight.
00:10:11.540 Jim Jordan, as you say, at Judiciary.
00:10:13.320 But why don't you guys draft Jordan?
00:10:16.420 Why don't you, you know, why does everybody have to follow in?
00:10:20.300 I mean, it's a bizarre thing for me to witness.
00:10:22.860 All of you type A, terrific, talented people suddenly deciding that it's, you know, some sort of coffee clash where no one wants to bruise the other's eardrums.
00:10:35.340 I think it's time for somebody to slam the damn table and start raising your voice. 0.99
00:10:40.300 Well, I think a lot of these guys who are standing up and saying exactly that, you know, again, it's basic math.
00:10:47.240 If McCarthy can't get there, then somebody in the conference needs to stand up and say, look, this is the direction that I think the conference can go.
00:10:55.760 The challenge that you have is you have a lot of the Mike Turners of the world and you have a lot of these Republicans in more moderate districts or more moderate members that are obviously a part of the conference.
00:11:08.820 So let's say a Jim Jordan does run or somebody else like Banks ran for whip and I supported him for the whips race and he didn't get there.
00:11:18.620 So you have somebody that's more conservative, but these establishment Republicans aren't going to support them.
00:11:23.800 And you still got to get to that 218 number.
00:11:25.780 So it's it's it's an interesting challenge that we find ourselves in because I'm hearing from people just like you in my district that want me to stand up and not vote for Kevin.
00:11:35.960 And my response to that is, look, I would support a guy like Jim Jordan, but he's not running.
00:11:40.800 There's no way that Biggs is going to be able to win the majority of the conference, let alone to get to 18.
00:11:46.940 We haven't heard any other names.
00:11:48.660 So I think, first of all, January 3rd is going to be a very interesting, long day, because if Kevin doesn't get there, somebody else is going to have to say, look, I take this challenge on.
00:11:58.080 I want to govern from the right.
00:11:59.360 I want to govern conservatively.
00:12:00.520 But they're still going to have to get those establishment Republicans in more moderate districts to support them.
00:12:05.640 No, and I understand that.
00:12:08.860 But it's been my experience, at least in watching the process now for for some time that the Republicans make one mistake that repeatedly, and that is that they bring a moderate to right conference to bear and then elect a damn rhino to lead.
00:12:28.200 And immediately the negotiation is over with the other side.
00:12:32.480 And by the way, the other side is no longer waiting for the Republicans to to negotiate.
00:12:38.600 They're ramming everything through.
00:12:40.660 They will continue to do so through the I think and I'd like to hear your opinion.
00:12:45.860 They're going to ram everything through in this lame duck session that they possibly can.
00:12:50.700 And again, it's everyone in your your district and every district of every congressman and woman in the country.
00:12:57.880 They know exactly.
00:12:59.260 I'm not saying anything new here.
00:13:01.140 They don't want Paul Ryan as a speaker in the proxy of Kevin McCarthy.
00:13:08.100 They don't want a House intelligence chair who won't investigate the CCP in the damn United States.
00:13:17.980 They don't want a guy who buries investigations.
00:13:20.680 They want a man who will be actually showing us the documents to Russiagate.
00:13:27.200 And that isn't that isn't the plan as laid out by Kevin McCarthy.
00:13:32.660 It is sickening to think what you guys may do to yourselves and to the country.
00:13:37.080 Well, I think as it relates to China, I think because he appointed that special committee on on China and Gallagher, who in all impressions that I've had of him is pretty conservative guy.
00:13:47.240 I haven't heard that Mike is not Mr. Turner is not willing to investigate some of the CCP stuff.
00:13:53.280 If he's not, I would love to have a conversation with him.
00:13:55.140 And you're right.
00:13:55.860 Maybe we need to look at new leadership.
00:13:57.300 If these people aren't willing to do the things that the American people want us to do, it's I'm on judiciary and foreign affairs and you have good, strong leadership.
00:14:07.840 And Jim Jordan, we're going to go through impeachment proceedings on my orcas.
00:14:11.280 We're going to investigate all the travesties that are happening with the invasion on our our southern border.
00:14:16.320 We're going to pass an immigration reform bill, knowing that obviously a Democratic Senate is not going to pass it, but we can use that appropriations process to accomplish policy objectives, especially as it relates to the border, because Homeland Security gets all its funding from the House.
00:14:30.120 So there will be a lot of things that we'll be able to do in the Judiciary Committee.
00:14:34.140 Foreign Affairs is going to go after investigating Afghanistan.
00:14:36.780 We're going to create a committee to investigate Hunter Biden's foreign dealings in Ukraine, Hunter Biden's foreign dealings in China.
00:14:42.860 So there will be a lot of good things that the conference is going to do as it relates to the investigative powers that we will soon have.
00:14:53.020 Yeah, I think that is all to the good.
00:14:56.120 And I applaud you for it.
00:14:57.500 And Congressman, my my criticism of the conference does not extend to you.
00:15:03.420 I think you are one of the the the bright leaders that I think who I think should should be taking more of a role in the conference.
00:15:14.880 I resist that idea.
00:15:17.520 But I think you should be at the forefront.
00:15:21.800 And I don't understand why there is this acquiescence.
00:15:25.780 And it just drives me.
00:15:29.180 Well, a little bit impatient.
00:15:31.080 I'll put it that way.
00:15:31.940 I'll take down the hyperbole.
00:15:33.420 But you've got a Kevin McCarthy, by the way, said he's not going to go for impeachments.
00:15:38.640 And yet here we are talking about the impeachment of Mayorkas, which I think is entirely appropriate. 1.00
00:15:43.960 And you and I both know that there are other names that should be on that list.
00:15:47.900 How do you square that up with Kevin McCarthy saying he's against impeachments, but the conference wanting to persist?
00:15:54.980 I don't think he's going to have a choice.
00:15:56.680 And that's the other thing, too, of one of these rules changes that the that the Freedom Caucus wants to change is the motion to vacate the chair.
00:16:04.860 So if he pulls crap like that.
00:16:06.700 So let's say I mean, I'm in a press conference this week and we're going to we're going to talk about impeaching Mayorkas. 1.00
00:16:13.080 There's 25 members that are speaking at this press conference.
00:16:16.440 That's a that's a large subset of the conference.
00:16:20.000 That's just who's willing to speak on.
00:16:21.360 And I'm sure there's more that are willing to support it.
00:16:23.720 You've got the Judiciary Committee that obviously has the support to do that.
00:16:26.720 And if the Judiciary Committee goes through that process and sends an impeachment article to the floor and McCarthy doesn't allow that to be heard and debated and discussed and voted on, you're going to see these rule changes as it relates to vacating the chair.
00:16:42.520 He's not going to be there if he does.
00:16:43.780 If he is able to get there, he isn't going to be there very long if he's not going to do what the majority of America wants us to do.
00:16:49.400 And it is so flagrant, the the clear violations of our Constitution and the laws that Congress has set forth as it relates to our immigration that is being intentionally and deliberately violated every single day at the border in violation of Secretary Mayorkas's oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.
00:17:13.260 It couldn't be a better example.
00:17:14.760 And you're right.
00:17:15.200 It's not just him.
00:17:15.920 It goes all the way to the top.
00:17:17.060 The president is ultimately accountable for what's going on in Department of Homeland Security, and it should go all the way to the top.
00:17:25.060 We're going to do the investigation to put that evidence before the American people so they can see and support us on that.
00:17:30.660 I think that's a 75 percent, 80 percent issue that we not only do the policy side of it, knowing that the Senate is not going to remove them, knowing that the Senate is not going to pass a bill, but then use that appropriations process.
00:17:42.580 When we go through the appropriations process to put riders on the Department of Homeland Security bill that says not a single dollar of this fund shall be used to allow an illegal immigrant to come into our country. 0.73
00:17:52.960 And if they violate that, it's a felony.
00:17:54.980 And we start being very strong where the American people want us to be on these issues, especially relates to the border.
00:18:02.220 Let me ask you a question on that.
00:18:03.500 Does the House not have the ability to shut down funding for the entire Department of Homeland Security?
00:18:10.180 Absolutely.
00:18:11.920 Why would the conference not shut down the entire operation?
00:18:15.400 What part of the operation is it that you think the conference would not have the guts to shut down that is so valuable to the American people?
00:18:24.160 Because I can't think of a single department.
00:18:26.300 ICE isn't doing its job.
00:18:28.700 DHS largely isn't doing its job.
00:18:31.760 You want to talk about cybersecurity and their important role in elections?
00:18:35.400 I think we all agree that that's a joke.
00:18:38.160 I'm trying to find out.
00:18:39.560 CIS, it still takes forever to get through legal immigrants. 0.99
00:18:43.480 That needs to be reformed right now.
00:18:45.680 Not in two years.
00:18:46.560 Not in a year.
00:18:47.220 It needs to be done now.
00:18:48.540 And Mayorkas has to be brought up by the nape of his neck and told he's no longer a working Marxist activist.
00:18:56.100 He is either going to be, you know, I'd give him no, I wouldn't give him volition.
00:19:00.280 I'd tell him to get the hell out.
00:19:01.760 Just as you're recommending.
00:19:03.920 But why not do that?
00:19:05.660 Why not have the Republicans do something for a change?
00:19:10.560 I 100% support that.
00:19:12.560 I've said publicly, especially back in the district, that I actually think we should shut down the entire immigration process to this country until we get the current crisis under control. 1.00
00:19:22.600 Why would we allow, I think it's a million a year that legally are allowed to come into our country. 1.00
00:19:27.220 Why would we do that when 5 million have come in illegally in the southern border and we have, you know, and DHS is playing defense on who these people are.
00:19:35.920 We've let in, this is just a staggering number, being a military veteran.
00:19:39.260 We've let in 98 known terrorists into our country.
00:19:42.880 And when Mayorkas was before the Judiciary Committee, it's been a year ago now.
00:19:46.040 We asked him under oath of, at the time, I think it was like 34 or 40 known terrorists, of these known terrorists that have been apprehended at the border, did you release them back into our country?
00:19:56.520 And he refused to answer the question.
00:19:57.900 So that tells you everything you need to know about where they feel the safety and security of the American people are, that they would let in 98 known terrorists and not deport them back to their host country.
00:20:09.860 Can I tell you, I really think, and that's, you're exactly right.
00:20:14.680 But I think the whole country wants you to start at where we are instead of where we've been.
00:20:19.840 For the past two years, we've watched everything happen.
00:20:22.880 We've got 6 million illegal immigrants in this country who have crossed that border and includes visa overstays as well.
00:20:31.080 We don't know how much money has been spent to house them, domicile them, feed them, get them into shelter and provide for their daily sustenance.
00:20:43.300 We don't know.
00:20:44.180 We don't see the budget for it.
00:20:45.580 You guys aren't even asking for the budget as far as I know.
00:20:48.620 I don't know of a single congressman who's asked for the budget for bringing in all of these illegal immigrants. 0.99
00:20:56.380 And I don't understand how anybody can complain about 6 million illegal immigrants walking in here and being distributed across the country in the dead of night and not say we're going to shut down the entire DHS until this idiot administration run by an impaired president comes to heel. 0.71
00:21:16.240 Well, because you guys are the people's voice.
00:21:19.540 No one is more representative of the American people in point of fact than you.
00:21:24.140 Well, it's interesting you bring that point up.
00:21:26.440 I talked to staff yesterday about the moment that the new Congress starts on January 3rd, we have the ability to file bills once we're sworn in.
00:21:35.780 And one of the very first things that I intend to file is a bill that would do away with all taxpayer benefits to illegal immigrants. 0.99
00:21:43.060 It's Medicaid, Social Security, disability, going through all TANF, SNAP, welfare, all these different things that over the years they've taken out the words that allow this to go to in person.
00:21:54.600 And so obviously these funding mechanisms are going to illegal immigrants that are illegally allowed to come into our country.
00:22:00.880 You start closing that down and we have the power to do that because the purse strings reside in the House. 0.68
00:22:07.360 The founders of our Constitution were brilliant in dividing that power and knowing that if you had the power of the purse in the executive branch, it would corrupt.
00:22:16.020 So allowing us the ability to do that, those are absolutely the things that we're going to have to do.
00:22:20.120 And we're going to have to take a stand and dare President Biden to shut down the government over the fact that we don't want to give taxpayer benefits to people that have already broken our laws or are present in our country illegally.
00:22:31.940 I think that's a wonderful idea.
00:22:34.300 And I want to be clear for the audience.
00:22:37.280 You all have heard about line item vetoes and presidents want that every day.
00:22:43.060 But it turns out the House of Representatives actually has line item veto, doesn't it?
00:22:50.140 Because you can take any program, policy, department within the entire budget and defund it.
00:22:57.300 It's that straightforward.
00:22:59.280 All that is required is the political will, guts, courage, and principle.
00:23:03.340 And this conference is not making me brim with confidence that those are descriptive adjectives for the conference.
00:23:13.580 What do you think?
00:23:14.700 No, I agree with you 100 percent.
00:23:15.980 We have the ability to do that.
00:23:17.180 And given the crises all across the board from the wokeism in the military and vaccine mandates and what's happening on our border, that is 100 percent away.
00:23:26.680 And I certainly support doing it to get the country's attention and this administration's attention if they don't have the money to push wokeism on our military, to allow legal immigrants to come into our country and all of the horrible things that this administration has done to basically destroy our country and our republic in the last two years. 0.91
00:23:46.240 And that's the stand that we're going to have to take.
00:23:48.180 And I think the American people want us to do that.
00:23:50.120 And you're right, if we don't, we're probably not going to be in the majority for very long because it's going to be like, what's the difference between you guys and the Democrats?
00:23:58.500 But, no, there are members like myself that agree with you on those issues and will file those type of amendments when we go through the appropriations process.
00:24:06.380 And you're absolutely right.
00:24:07.160 That's the kind of stuff that we absolutely have to shut down the moment we get the gavels.
00:24:11.720 And what you're proposing, and I say you, what your conference is proposing is a man in Kevin McCarthy, who is a deadhead.
00:24:20.500 There's no fire in his belly except for a meeting with another lobbyist from K Street.
00:24:26.320 He is, I find him a very likable fellow.
00:24:30.540 He's also a very dangerous fellow, just as has every rhino in your conference.
00:24:35.480 And if you guys don't find the energy and the motivation to take care of this country right now, with this majority, you've maneuvered yourself into a very, very difficult situation.
00:24:48.760 You're actually going to be accountable and there are no excuses for not getting it done.
00:24:55.000 I want to talk about what some of the other things that you want to do, which I think are terrific as well.
00:25:00.040 Ending the censorship and going after big tech and dismissing their immunity from accountability on the part of the American people and allowing us to protect our First Amendment rights.
00:25:13.880 I think that's a terrific idea.
00:25:16.320 Tell us where it's headed.
00:25:17.500 Yeah, and this is a bill I've worked on for the last couple of years once we realized that big tech is obviously using their power to censor conservatives, to change thought and the way that people are allowed to express their First Amendment rights.
00:25:32.320 And now that we get in the majority, this is going to be a bill.
00:25:35.800 It touches several different committees.
00:25:37.440 Judiciary is one of them, but also goes through energy and commerce that there's a broad support in our conference for.
00:25:44.040 And what my bill would do, so these big tech companies like Facebook and Twitter, and thankfully we have Elon Musk dumping all this information, facts that we knew were going on, but now we have the actual evidence to support the contention that it was going on and it's not a conspiracy theory.
00:26:00.140 They have liability protection under Section 230.
00:26:02.420 Years ago, Congress, long before I was here, gave them immunity because these big tech companies were afraid they'd be sued out of an existence if they didn't have some type of protection for what people were putting on their platforms.
00:26:14.780 Well, fast forward to now, the liberal elitists and the progressives that run these companies have been censoring conservatives and changing speech.
00:26:25.640 And, like, you know, the best example is the New York Post story on the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:26:31.940 And my bill would allow a market-dominant test so the big guys, you know, the Facebooks, the Twitters, the Googles, would not have liability protection if they violate your First Amendment rights.
00:26:44.380 So, if the New York Post got banned, a Hunter Biden story, they could sue Twitter for that.
00:26:51.260 And I would submit to you and see very quickly the behavior of these companies change when they're going to be held financially responsible for the decisions that they make when violation of your First Amendment rights.
00:27:02.320 But it still protects Section 230 for your small startups like Parler and some of your conservative groups that would get sued out of existence.
00:27:09.260 So, but the big guys wouldn't have liability protection if they violate your First Amendment rights.
00:27:14.500 I think that's the least that we need to do to start attacking this problem that we're seeing that's now very evident because of the Twitter drops that Elon Musk have done.
00:27:25.060 And going back to the issue here, Democrats and Republicans, it's no longer, that is no longer the paradigm.
00:27:33.720 It is a Marxist, dim, driven Democrat party that is trying to fundamentally transform, as Obama promised in his administration that he would do.
00:27:47.040 And here he is in the third term of his administration doing just that.
00:27:51.220 The American people understand that these are not just the neighborhood Democrat who also goes to the Rotary Club with their Republican buddies.
00:27:59.700 These, these, these are a total committed force at work to take down this country, to destroy the family, to destroy every American value, because that stands in the way of the new world order, the new world global order.
00:28:17.760 Your thoughts on that?
00:28:20.000 Yeah, no, you're right.
00:28:22.540 I mean, these are far left progressive activists that have infiltrated at every level these big tech companies.
00:28:29.160 I mean, look at James Baker and the things that he's done.
00:28:32.060 I mean, this guy was at the center of the Russia collusion hoax, somehow gets a job at Twitter as a general counsel and was doing exactly that for progressive, protecting the Democratic elitists like the Biden family, all while, you know, thwarting conservative speech in this country and freedom of speech.
00:28:52.920 I mean, it's interesting, just since Elon's taken over, and obviously this kind of stuff hasn't been going on.
00:28:58.540 I mean, just in one week, my followers on Twitter went up like 500 people, because now I'm not getting shadow banned on the platform.
00:29:06.820 It's just absolutely fascinating.
00:29:08.780 And these people want to destroy our country.
00:29:10.340 They want to infiltrate every aspect of people's thought.
00:29:14.920 And the best way to do that these days is through Twitter, Facebook, and these social media platforms.
00:29:19.980 And my bill will bring this to a head and put some accountability on all of that.
00:29:24.860 Well, I think it's terrific, and I congratulate you for that.
00:29:28.500 And, again, I want to say we always give our guests the last word.
00:29:36.640 And sometimes I hate to do that because I want to continue the conversation forever.
00:29:45.340 But I know you've got a lot of pressure on your time.
00:29:48.240 So I'm going to say this is your opportunity to get the last word.
00:29:53.220 I promise it will be the last word.
00:29:54.960 I won't have a rejoinder or a rebuttal or further question.
00:30:00.320 Your concluding thoughts, if you will, Congressman.
00:30:02.760 Well, I just want to thank you for having me on again and know, and I hope your listeners know,
00:30:07.360 that there are true conservatives that are up here fighting for American values every single day.
00:30:11.460 And I will continue to do that in the new conference.
00:30:13.940 And I will say this.
00:30:15.080 You know, we talked a lot about the speaker's race.
00:30:17.020 And I will say this.
00:30:17.800 If whoever's elected speaker is not going to abide by a conservative mandate,
00:30:21.540 I feel strongly that the rules are going to get changed on that motion to vacate the chair.
00:30:26.320 And that person is not going to be there for very long because there's a majority of the conference
00:30:30.740 after this last election cycle that I feel strongly are true conservatives.
00:30:35.400 And if we are not up here doing what the American people want us to do,
00:30:38.120 especially in such a slim majority that we have,
00:30:40.440 then the person that's in charge of us is going to be held accountable for that.
00:30:44.100 And just know that I'm up here fighting every single day for our Constitution and our American values.
00:30:49.420 And thanks so much for having me on again.
00:30:50.820 Congressman Greg Stubbe, a great American, he has, I believe, a great future on Capitol Hill.
00:30:57.540 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today.
00:30:59.500 For any thoughts you might have about today's show, subjects, and guests,
00:31:03.660 please email me at lew at lewdobs.com.
00:31:07.280 That's lew at lewdobs.com.
00:31:10.040 Here tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion about the Republican leadership,
00:31:14.120 the most important challenges facing the Congress and the nation
00:31:18.320 because of the Biden regime's enmity toward America
00:31:22.740 that drives their policies and their assault on the republic.
00:31:27.740 The Center for Renewing America's President Russ Vogt is our guest tomorrow.
00:31:32.740 Please be with us.
00:31:33.720 Till then, thanks.
00:31:35.100 God bless you.
00:31:36.300 And may God bless America.
00:31:38.180 Thank you.
00:31:57.860 Thank you.