ROBERT CAHALY TELLS US THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WILL TELL US A LOT OF WHAT 2022 WILL LOOK LIKE
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In this episode of the Great America Show, host Lou Dobbs is joined by Republican pollster and strategist Robert Cahaley to discuss the latest primary results and the impact they have on the race for governor in Pennsylvania.
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs. This is the Great America Show and welcome. We're delighted you're
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with us and we'll be talking about politics today, of course, and where the country's headed. We'll
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be getting lots of clues as to direction over the next several weeks. Primary elections are underway
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and it appears this will be a very good year for Republicans. That's not only an understatement,
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of course, but it's also a safer way to proceed in the forecasting business. Everything almost
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everything points to a route for the Republicans, but it's still too early to say that or much more.
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Although that will not stop any of us from remarking on it all, Texas kicked it all off on March 1st,
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then Indiana and Ohio followed on May 3rd, Nebraska and West Virginia on May 10th, and Idaho, Kentucky,
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North Carolina, Oregon, and Pennsylvania on the 17th of May. And coming up in a week, Alabama,
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Arkansas, and Georgia. President Biden continues to be beaten and bruised in the polls. His advisors,
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whether political or policy, can't produce, it seems, even a single reasonable position
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on anything. President Biden and his advisors simply out of touch with the American people,
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and that continues to be reflected in the polls as he hits new lows in just about every one of them.
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President Trump, meanwhile, is running strong. His candidates are winning, but Pennsylvania and
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Georgia will be big tests of his pull and power. With us today is prominent Republican pollster
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and strategist Robert Cahaley, the mastermind behind the Trafalgar Group, which has proved over and over
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its overarching philosophy. Superior strategy, innovative tactics, and bold leadership can prevail over larger
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numbers, greater resources, and conventional wisdom. Robert Cahaley, thanks for joining us here on The Great
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America Show. With all of these primaries, give us your thoughts about the most important of the primary season
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and whatever the major takeaway is. Well, I don't think, to me, there's no question that Pennsylvania is what's most
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important. It is the, it is the battleground on those who want to have a kind of a, an America first
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agenda, and those who want to see that be something that we, that the Republican Party has moved on from.
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And so that's what this is really kind of coming down to. And there's a lot of effort being put in this
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thing. And, you know, there's some certainly some good candidates. But in the end, you have to, you have to
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wonder about the, the focus on the general election. One of the things that I think that we've seen, and I guess this
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was a criticism people anticipated Trump would do, but he did not. You know, there's a lot of folks who were worried that
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he would ghost pick people who would be very difficult general election candidates and kind of say, you know, we would have
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won, but for the fact that Trump supported this person. Right. And so we've seen some discipline on Trump's part in
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not always picking the people that his supporters even liked best, but the people he thought had the best chance in the
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general election. And I think, I mean, with J.D. Vance's case, I mean, that was somebody who had been very critical of
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him. Right. So I think that's, that's a future focus. And in many ways, a understanding that the goal for the
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Republicans has to be to win the general election. And so this, there's a lot of folks who have kind of
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weighed in this thing. And I don't know what certainly the agenda was. I mean, we can, no matter what happens
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today, I think it'll be clear that three fourths of the people who vote will vote for a candidate who
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espouses in the Republican primary, who espouses Trump values and make America great, America versus agenda values.
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But, you know, how that's going to manifest itself in the fall really depends on which candidate they pick.
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Well, in Pennsylvania, you know, the voting is underway. When we're talking, people will know who the winners are.
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And let's, let's talk about the president's choices and your choices in your polling. Your, your polls are always wildly
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accurate. And you're thinking always rigorous and revealing. So let's, let's start with Pennsylvania.
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What outcome do you expect in the governor's race? First of all,
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Well, we expect Mastriano to walk away with it. Mastriano has been in the lead. Uh, every time we
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pulled this thing in the last few months, what we did see is coming into Friday with, uh, two candidates
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having dropped out and endorsed Barletta. We saw Barletta right on Mastriano's heels, uh, by Saturday
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morning. Now, what happened after that was Trump kind of surprised everybody and endorsed Mastriano.
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And that literally was like afterburners for him to move right past Barletta. I think at that point,
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had Trump chosen Barletta, he could have put Barletta in first, but Trump's choice of Mastriano kind of
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ended that race. And we expect a significant, uh, victory, uh, for Mastriano tonight.
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And what was the, the, the determinant, uh, in the president's choice? What was it that convinced him
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versus, uh, Barletta say? Now you are asking me to do something I have no ability to do.
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I have no idea. President Trump has his own internal ability to read a room, react and make
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his own decisions. And that is something that I think only he can answer. I do not understand,
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but, uh, I'm sure he had his reasons and I'm not here to question him. I'm just saying,
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I don't understand. Well, lucky for us, uh, president Trump is going to be with us next
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Wednesday right here on the great America show. So I'll make a note and I'll tell him
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Robert Cahaly told me I had to ask you this question and we will. He said, Robert doesn't
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said he doesn't know what's in your head. And only you can answer that. Cause I think he'll agree
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with that. Well, I think he'd agree with it with, uh, nearly all of us. Don't you? Uh, he is,
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you talk about a man who has his own mind, uh, and thank God, uh, it's Donald J. Trump.
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So let's move to the Senate race. Now there, there could have hardly been more controversy
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over what effectively was a three person race, uh, in the Republican party. Uh, those folks don't
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like each other. Uh, how's it going to end up? Well, let's start with something else. And we've,
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we've put this on Twitter and we've had a little fun with this. Uh, if you go back and look at our
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March 13th poll, we told the world that, uh, Barnett was for real and should be taken seriously.
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We had her in a very close third, right behind, uh, McCormick. We said every, at the time she's
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very close, she should be taken seriously. And no one listened. And as usual, three more weeks
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passed, no one did any vetting. And then every, the world figured out that she was in, uh, in
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contention. So what we saw, uh, post that, what post those polls that, uh, I think it
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was myself. Well, we, we put a Trafalgar poll and then Matt Tower put an insider advantage
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with Fox 46 in Philadelphia and then, uh, Fox news channel all put together polls, uh, showing
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them very tight at the top three. What we saw since then, as we've been following it, uh,
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almost daily is, uh, there's, there's a certain amount of the votes that Oz is going to get.
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And then there are votes that are, you know, kind of America first Trump votes that aren't
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for Oz. And they were evenly divided between McCormick and, uh, between Barnett. So as Barnett
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grew, it costs McCormick. And there was a lot of attention, uh, spent, uh, popping McCormick,
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but you know, you're popping somebody who's also in the midst of growing. And so what we
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saw was McCormick kind of fell, fell out. And so our, our final numbers, I believe we have
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McCormick about five points back. Uh, we, and we saw the whole weekend, it was between Oz
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and, uh, Barnett. I mean, back and forth tight as it could be through the weekend. Uh, we think
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with the, uh, edge that Oz got in early voting, cause he was in the lead for a significant
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portion of early voting when over a 40% of the votes were cast. And, um, with, uh, he
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had a very good Monday compared to his Saturday and Sunday. We've got a, I think a 1.8, uh,
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1.9 margin for Oz ahead. But, uh, this thing is still to the point where if the undecided
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broke any direction, uh, one of the top three could win, but, uh, we do have, uh, Oz up
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by, uh, you know, just under two points over her with McCormick, a, uh, kind of a few
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points back in third. And if, how do you think it's going to break, uh, in the final
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count? I think that's a bit, I think that's going to be very close to where it is. I
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expect, I actually expect us to quite possibly with the estimate being that of the 190,000
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electoral, I mean, uh, absentee, uh, ballots that have been requested in the 140 or so that
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have been received as of now. I think we could be opening absentee ballots to figure
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out who won when it's all said and done. Wow. We love that. Don't we? Oh yeah. Here
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we go again. Uh, what did, what kind of influence did Pompeo have when he butted
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into that race, um, and butted heads with the president? I think Pompeo had a, I would
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be, I would want to tell you that I saw a significant, uh, even though Trump, the
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reason Oz did not take the dive that I think he would have taken if Pompeo had happened in
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a vacuum, uh, Oz had the benefit of Trump having been in town being for Oz the same
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day. And, but I do think it, it, it, it actually, it, it hurt because part of what Pompeo did
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and this, and we, we picked this up with some voters saying Pompeo suggested there was more
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than he was allowed to say that made him not want to support Oz. And when someone who's
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been in a position like CA, like secretary of state who suggests there's things I can't
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tell you, but you have to trust me. It really makes people wonder what's going on. And so
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I I I'm not saying that, uh, that was intentional, but it definitely, when someone who back and
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has access to that kind of information, they're not allowed to share says that it makes people
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question it. Uh, and we also have the experience Robert of, uh, uh, uh, 2020 with those, uh, 50,
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uh, veteran, uh, intelligence community, uh, folks, uh, and five former CIA directors saying
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that the laptop from hell, Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. I mean, we have been
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spun and abused by official, official voices. I thought it was really degrading of Pompeo and I
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took him to account on Twitter. I did. I just couldn't stand it. And yes, you did. And I think
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that the point is, is just like you said, there is a built-in Republican skepticism, but that skepticism
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has never been directed to Pompeo. So it's what, what, you know, there are certainly people who
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listened to it, certain people who wanted to see what he was talking about, but it, it, it definitely
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took him from an authority that Republicans who were skeptical of, you know, the national security
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apparatus. Uh, it made him one of the people they're skeptical of, not as someone who is an
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outlier who they respected. So, you know, as you, as you analyze this, is there something that, uh,
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Oz could have done that would have overcome all of this, uh, noise that was created around him?
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You mean that Pompeo stuff? I think that was late in the game. And so I'm not sure what he could have
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done. I, I will, all I would say is Oz has the, uh, the luck of that happening the same day. Trump
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was in town saying good things about him, you know? So it's kind of like when you have a car wreck on
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the way home, but he found out you won the lottery too. Right. Well, indeed he did. Uh, and, uh, the
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winning isn't going to stop is my guess. Uh, is, is Trump, how strong is he with his base, uh, particularly
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in Pennsylvania? Cause that seems to me to be a pretty good test for minority support, uh, for
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blacks, Hispanics, women, uh, evangelicals, uh, give us, give us your sense of that.
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Trump is strong with his base. However, there are people who can say, I like Trump, but I don't
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like this particular choice because it is, it is always a hard sell. Uh, when you, when you try to
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tell me this, this has been the, if this has been a problem with conservatism from the very beginning,
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what was it? Buckley used to say that you have to pick the most conservative person who can win,
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you know, or so often conservatives and Republicans in the primary want to pick somebody that is just
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totally agrees with them, irrespective of their chances in the fall. And, and sometimes find
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themselves picking somebody who just can't win the fall, but gosh, darn it. They feel good about that
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choice in the primary. And so it is an intellectual exercise to have to put aside someone that you
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agree with completely to pick someone who you agree with enough, who can win. And so I think
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that that is even among those who support Trump and even among Trump's followers, some of the people
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don't, that is a hard sell. You have to pick someone that you don't agree with just as much, but
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you know, you gotta be focused in Pennsylvania is a unique duck. I don't think just a candidate who
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barely wins in the fall in Pennsylvania is what you're looking for. I think you want one who wins
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by a pretty sizable margin. If they're going to win Pennsylvania. I, you know, I worry about
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Barletta because he's, I will tell you, I consider him the most likable politician I've ever met.
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Nobody is more likable on the other side of it. He's lost three times. Uh, and it's,
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that's not a good trajectory. Uh, so I understand the president's hesitation and choice. Um,
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it also had to hurt, uh, in Pennsylvania for the president to go up against Barletta on that.
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I can certainly see that Barletta has unusually dedicated and is a really good fellow and, um,
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has an appeal to people beyond just, uh, some stereotypical Republicans, but you know, it, it,
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it is, it is part and parcel of what's happening. And, you know, this, this election, I know there
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are people who are concerned, uh, what Mastriano can and can't do in the fall. And, you know,
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it's a big step, uh, from being, you know, being a Senator, but I will say this, the good news is,
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yes, they're running against Shapiro. Yes. They're probably running against Fetterman,
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but really they're kind of running against Joe Bob. They're kind of running against gas prices and
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baby formula and pronouns and radical environmentalism. So I wouldn't write any, uh,
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Republican nominee off at this point, because unless something changes radically,
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and I don't expect it to go radical in a way that makes things better. It is set to be a pretty good
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ball. Yep. As you have forecast from the outset, uh, let, let's turn to the, the base itself,
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the country, the cross currents at work. One of the polls that grabbed me just stepping away from the
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primaries for a minute here, uh, was Disney's positive rating, uh, falling from 77% to 33%
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in recent weeks at this, after the so-called woke company came out against a Florida, uh, uh, parental
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rights law. Uh, and I think just teed off the entire country, uh, for the most part, what, what is,
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what are the implications of that rating and what's it going to take if, if there is anything at all
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to build it back? Well, you know, maybe they should build it back better. Maybe building it back
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better is about building something that is focused on return for the shareholders and providing
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entertainment for the public and not, uh, uh, catering to a very small amount of people and
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their woke sensitivities. I thought that Netflix's announcement that they were just going to focus
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on programming their people wanted and not be so influenced. I thought that was the most positive
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corporate message I've seen in quite some time. And maybe Disney could, could learn from them.
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I mean, these companies need to focus on delivering for their shareholders and delivering for their
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customers and not, not, you know, basically acting as if they don't act like their customers,
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wish their customers were somebody else. I mean, the hypocrisy of some of these places is very
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frustrating. And we, you know, we saw it firsthand in Georgia, uh, with a law they didn't even
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understand. And frankly, it wasn't even a very good law. I mean, it, it put the cameras indoors,
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uh, and took, it put the, uh, drop boxes indoors and took the cameras off of them. They should have
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loved this new law, but you know, the way they were going on, it was, it was ridiculous. So I think it
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was a, Netflix is a positive step. I think Disney getting in this situation, shareholders are going to
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start to react and everybody needs to be a little less focused on ESG and a little, uh, more focused
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on ROI. You better believe it. Uh, it's, uh, I, I think this about, uh, Disney. I think that Bob
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JPEC has made a huge mistake, but they, you know, in these instances, he's a new CEO and a lot of people
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would say, Norman, boy, I wish we had Bob Iger back. But Iger weeks before he had JPEC and the top
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officials had decided to take a pass on discussing parental rights laws in Florida. Uh, Bob Iger
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was out showing everybody what a woke liberal he still is. And he would have made the same mistake
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only. I think he would have been worse. Uh, I think it would have been a more stubborn approach.
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And I think that the number with it's 33 today would have been around 15% because Iger still
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wanted that job badly. And he'd love being at the, uh, the premieres. Uh, and I just, I absolutely have
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nothing but contempt for corporate America using this woke nonsense to peddle their wares. And that's
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exactly what they're doing. The president of Disney entertainment saying that she wanted, um,
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um, half of their programming to be LGBTQ plus, uh, underrepresented, uh, folks, uh, was one of
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the most ignorant things I've ever heard anybody say, but it tells you where we are. We're in a
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society where the left, they think, by God, this is just our country and that's the way it's going to
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be. And we don't care if we have to intercede between children and their parents. It shouldn't
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have taken a genius to understand, uh, there in Hollywood that, you know, one thing you don't do
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is get between children and their parents. And when you do, you're going to pay a hell of a price.
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Your thoughts. There's no question about it. I think that, that it, there is a, there is a,
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a massive consumers who feel very strongly. These companies are not representing their values
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and that they're, they're starting to show it. And, you know, we have some of these guys pushing
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back. Uh, I wish we'd had a little more pushback when major league baseball did what they did in
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Atlanta. I mean, they do have antitrust, uh, exemption. And I think there's some times in
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history. Uh, I remember something with Senator Symington that I read about where they started to
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challenge it. Baseball buckled. Well, maybe that we need a little more of that corporate world and
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in the entertainment world and the sports world is they're not representing their customers,
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their constituents, their fans, and they, they have to be held accountable. And I think it's
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turning the right way. Yeah. I I'm hopeful as well. Uh, when you, when you talk about doing more,
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we don't have a counter bailing influence right now up against the woke, uh, corporate media,
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the woke corporate executives in this country. They almost have a playground right now. It's changing
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as you said, it is changing, but it needs a lot more changing before parents can be trustful
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of the Disney company ever again. I truly believe that they are going to see a profound impact,
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whether it's in streaming, whether it is in there, uh, in the, uh, the resorts, whatever it may be.
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Uh, I, I just think it'll show up there. I want to quickly get your thoughts about the Supreme
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Court protests and the Biden White House refusal to condemn those protests of these left wingers
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at the homes of conservative judges. You know, it's interesting. I actually in Washington day
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and last night, uh, a few of us walked over the Supreme Court and there wasn't a single person
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there. Now that is the place. If you disagree with what they're doing or contemplating or might do
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your protests belong and that's America and you should be there, but being at their homes,
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we have specific laws about trying to intimidate judges. And so, you know, we, we find ourselves in
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this juxtaposition that where the conservative movement is becoming the spokesman for free speech
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and the other side is becoming the one that will condone certain sorts of censorship. And it seems
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very interesting when the only free speech that they seem to be concerned about is free speech
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that is designed to intimidate. And, you know, there are specific laws on that. And every single
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person is at a judge's home. There's plenty of room right in front of the Supreme Court. Everything
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is there. That's where you belong. That's where your voice can be heard. That's where you can actually
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exercise your rights to citizens, but we don't intimidate judges. That's just not acceptable.
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We've had judges that have lost their lives, the lives of their spouses and their children. It's
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just not acceptable. And it is unacceptable for the Biden administration to stand in the way. It's
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unacceptable for the Justice Department to stand in the way. And again, this is something we polled in
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the majority of the Republic agree with that, that there's, that is inappropriate. That should not be
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allowed to happen. There is a place to protest and it's right there in front of the Capitol in front of
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the Capitol. Maybe that will give the Republican Party some guts, uh, the leadership in particular,
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uh, to respond to these challenges, to, uh, Americana, the American way, and to this great
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Republic of ours. Uh, I, we always give our guests the last word, as you know, Robert, uh, and it's that
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time, uh, your concluding thoughts, if you will. Well, I think the next few weeks are going to tell us a
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lot about what 2022 is going to look like in the fall. Um, we, as, as we approach more and more of
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these primaries, what, what we saw in Ohio, what I, what I expect it we'll see in Pennsylvania is
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this, uh, the majority of the people are some people who support this, uh, new, the new, I would say
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the new Republican party, which is the Republican party, uh, the conservative movement that is more
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aligned with the, the business owner, uh, the waitress, the truck driver, the, the, the person,
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the farmer, the person who cleans up the restaurant. I mean, this is a party that is of working people.
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And this is a, this is a move. And there are a lot of forces that would like their good old fashioned
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country club Republican party back. And we're going to be battling for that soul through these
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primaries. And I think if this remains, uh, this movement remains a movement of average people and
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average people's common sense, regular values, it is going to be a very successful election in 2022.
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But if we turn back into the party of the, uh, disassociated, uh, country club type Republicans who are
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not, don't we believe in the core core values, then I wouldn't count on the fall to be as good as it could be
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for the Republican. So what this party is, is to become is going to be determined, uh, in the prime
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You know, I say to people, the Republican party has no room for rhinos and I don't care how many
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they are. Uh, I don't want them in the Republican party. Uh, I'll take, I'll take the lumps, uh, for
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that, uh, that judgment, uh, and that insistence, but we can't handle Mitch McConnell and Kevin
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McCarthy and their like anymore. Uh, it's just, it's just not sensible. It doesn't make, uh, uh, not only
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not sense. It's doesn't make a political sense to continue it. Uh, I, I'm stepping on your last
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Well, what I would say is there are a lot of Democrats who are realizing how much their party
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has left them like it left Ronald Reagan. And there are a lot of people who have realized they
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don't really like either one of the parties, but they like a kind of a, a more conservative
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movement that's focused on working people. And so to all, you know, to any of those working people,
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this is, they're candidates that you can support and it does. And they don't care what color you
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are. As a matter of fact, they'd love to have a lot of diversity in this party because what we care
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about is purpose and, and, and what people believe in the values they hold. And there's plenty of room.
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Um, so, you know, rhinos, not so much, but if you want to be a Democrat name only, and you want to
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hold the values of the conservative, then I think this is a party would welcome. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds
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like you and I disagree about rhinos and that's all right too. We've got room for both of us in the
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Republican party. I think we disagree with the definition of rhino is, uh, sometimes, but, uh, I,
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we definitely agree on the fact that those in charge of this party need to be the people who
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understand the base of this party. Amen, brother. Robert Cahaly, America's greatest pollster.
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