The Great America Show - April 01, 2026


SCOTUS Begins Hearings on BIGGEST CASE In History!


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Pres. Trump is the first sitting president to ever sit in the Supreme Court and witness oral arguments in the landmark case of "Trump v. Barbara" and is it possible that President Trump is now a legal American citizen? Today's guest is Stephen Gardiner, host of The Stephen Gardner Show.

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00:00:00.000 hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us on another
00:00:12.000 edition of the great america show and more importantly another beautiful day in america
00:00:17.180 history was made today president trump entered the hallways of the u.s supreme court taking a
00:00:23.780 seat inside the courtroom to personally oversee the oral arguments in the monumental case of
00:00:28.920 trump versus barbara this marks the first time in american history folks that a sitting president
00:00:34.800 has attended oral arguments at the nation's highest courts now while previous presidents
00:00:40.040 hid behind their desks and let activist judges dismantle our borders our constitution our
00:00:46.560 country president trump is leading from the front he's there to defend his january 2025 executive
00:00:52.620 order that was aimed at and rent birthright citizenship something that's been illegal from
00:00:58.320 the beginning and continues to be illegal to this day. So it makes no sense why it's taken this long
00:01:04.380 to come to this and why it's even at the Supreme Court in the first place. This should be something
00:01:09.740 that these rogue district court judges should have been able to, boom, automatically rule on.
00:01:16.060 You're not a citizen if you come across this border to have a baby. It doesn't get much simpler than
00:01:22.740 that. President Trump is not just fed up with that. He's also fed up with NATO and the prospects
00:01:27.660 of everything going on with that, and he's making his voice, I think, more than clear
00:01:33.400 throughout this whole entire thing. And is America's membership in NATO coming to an end?
00:01:39.480 Speaking of NATO, Iran is in the middle of it all, and it seems President Trump has
00:01:44.140 just about had enough with that situation as well. So as it all comes tumbling down and President
00:01:50.520 Trump gets back on track towards America first and brings this thing back home, where I think
00:01:56.040 Americans really want to see it, we're going to have to wait and see how it all plays out. But
00:02:01.400 the good news is, is President Trump moves, we'll call it expeditiously. I don't think he likes
00:02:06.980 stagnation. And I think he likes to move things along as swiftly and promptly as possible. And I
00:02:13.320 think that's exactly what we're going to get. To take all this up and much, much more, folks,
00:02:17.440 I want to bring in our guest today, friend of mine, good friend of the show, familiar face,
00:02:21.760 Stephen Gardner, host of The Stephen Gardner Show. My friend, it is a delight to see you on this
00:02:26.440 beautiful Wednesday evening. Let's start with first President Trump and your thoughts being
00:02:31.980 the first U.S. president to sit in that Supreme Court and look those justices in the eyes and let
00:02:37.540 him know you guys got to do the right thing here. And it's not just the right thing, Stephen. It's
00:02:42.120 truth, justice and the American way and the U.S. Constitution. Yeah. Anytime a sitting president
00:02:48.220 makes his way over to the halls of Congress. It's a way of flashing. Whatever you guys are
00:02:54.340 working on, it's very important to me. So with President Trump now going over to the Supreme
00:02:59.200 Court as the first sitting president, he wanted to sit in, but he's also signaling to the justices
00:03:05.060 and his voter base and actually all of America that birthright citizenship is not a right.
00:03:12.040 Just being born here because you were on vacation or you came in through one of these
00:03:16.820 Chinese tourism companies, or you came across the border from South America, that does not make you
00:03:23.040 American. That doesn't make you entitled to all of the benefits and goodness of being an American
00:03:29.060 citizen. So I think, you know, just like Trump does with everything, he likes to work from a
00:03:34.880 place of maximum leverage, but he also likes to signal to his voter base, I'm doing everything I
00:03:40.520 can to pass the bills that you want. I want to roll some clips here because there was some fun
00:03:46.460 stuff, Steve. I don't know if you followed along with any of it, but there was some some really
00:03:50.200 interesting blurbs that came out. Now, there's no video cameras inside the courtroom, so we rely
00:03:55.740 on just the audio versions of it. But there are some hysterical ones. And, you know, it involved
00:04:02.280 your same usual culprits. And it's usually the Democrats. But we do have some Republicans
00:04:06.320 on there who have been a little bit disappointing. I want to roll this clip for you first of
00:04:11.240 Ketanji Brown Jackson and her exchange between D. John Sauer, the solicitor general, on how a baby
00:04:18.220 becomes a citizen. Let's take a listen. And who would not qualify under your rule.
00:04:23.660 How does this work? Are you suggesting that when a baby is born, people have to
00:04:29.900 have documents, present documents? Is this happening in the delivery room? How are we
00:04:35.240 determining when or whether a newborn child is a citizen of the United States under your rule.
00:04:42.300 And I think that's directly addressed in the SSA guidance that cited in our brief. What SSA says
00:04:46.560 is there's currently a system where, for example, social security numbers are generated based on
00:04:51.160 the birth certificate. They say this can still be, for the vast majority of instances, completely
00:04:55.480 transparent. You will still get a... No, not transparent. I'm just talking about the particulars
00:04:59.540 because now you say your rule turns on whether the person intended to stay in the United States.
00:05:04.120 And I think Justice Barrett brought this up. So we bringing pregnant women in for depositions. 0.99
00:05:09.200 What what are we doing to figure this out? Now, as I pointed out earlier, the executive order turns on lawfulness of status.
00:05:16.500 So if you if you give birth to a baby in the hospital right now, it gets the birth certificate in the system.
00:05:21.880 There's a computer system. So there's no opportunity.
00:05:23.680 There's apparently no opportunity then for the person to prove or to say.
00:05:28.620 Steve, that was so difficult to understand.
00:05:32.500 What she doesn't understand is, like John Sauer said,
00:05:35.780 you're born, it's all in a computer system.
00:05:37.760 Your birth certificates are printed out,
00:05:39.560 and this has been going on for many, many years.
00:05:42.400 Fortunately, we don't have to deal with what happened in the 1920s and 30s
00:05:45.780 where everything was just on pen and paper.
00:05:47.340 Now everything's digitized.
00:05:48.740 So they have in the system your parents' birth certificates,
00:05:51.320 your grandparents, and so on and so forth.
00:05:54.220 But, Steve, it got much worse than that.
00:05:56.480 katanji brown jackson used this weird analogy if you steal someone's wallet in japan
00:06:02.900 are you culpable to their laws let's take a listen in before i get your reaction on this
00:06:08.300 i was thinking about this and i think they there are various sources that say this that you can
00:06:14.840 have you obviously have permanent allegiance uh based on being born in whatever country you're
00:06:21.040 from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you also have local allegiance when you are on the
00:06:27.640 soil of this other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know, I'm a U.S. citizen and visiting Japan.
00:06:35.460 And what it means is that, you know, if I steal someone's wallet in Japan,
00:06:42.400 the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance meaning can they 0.98
00:06:50.060 control you as a matter of law i can also rely on them if my wallet is stolen to uh you know
00:06:57.600 under japanese law go and prosecute the person who has stolen it so there's this relationship
00:07:03.500 based on even though i'm a temporary traveler i'm just on vacation in japan i'm still locally owing
00:07:11.740 allegiance in that sense okay i'm sorry it took so long but i need to get your reaction on those
00:07:22.620 yeah so i i don't know what she is talking about because allegiance means allegiance means that i
00:07:32.980 Oh, my honor, my respect, maybe tax money, military service, defense, loyalty towards a country.
00:07:43.220 And there's a major difference between somebody that purposely comes into the country or
00:07:47.680 illegally comes into the country and gives birth to another human that then gets put into our 1.00
00:07:53.700 computer system. And right now, John, we're the only country that if you're born here,
00:07:58.120 you become an American citizen everywhere else. You're born. You still go back to your country. 0.82
00:08:02.800 your home country, right? So when she says allegiance, and then gives the example of
00:08:07.340 if I steal somebody's wallet in Japan, I now have allegiance to the Japanese flag,
00:08:14.840 the Japanese government. No, what it does mean is that if you are on foreign soil,
00:08:20.540 you are under their rules. And if you break the law, you're going to break the law. But that has
00:08:25.320 nothing to do with allegiance. That has nothing to do with benefiting from their welfare safety
00:08:30.540 net programs retirement program anything like that so i don't know what she's talking about
00:08:35.700 yeah i gotta read this this quote that i saw on twitter because it was it was so pertinent and i
00:08:41.080 don't want to plagiarize but it was from a person named political pug and they said controversial
00:08:46.000 take having ketanji brown jackson on the supreme court is a good thing because she makes the most 0.99
00:08:51.180 ridiculous arguments for her understanding of the law that it makes it harder for the other 0.90
00:08:55.880 justices to agree with her opinions. And this isn't the only one, Steve. We see this time and
00:09:01.280 time again with this same woman. Now, I don't agree with Kagan or Sotomayor or Ruth Bader Ginsburg
00:09:09.700 when she was on there. I don't agree with any of them because I think they interpret the law not
00:09:13.900 according to the Constitution, okay? But that doesn't mean they're dumb people, okay? It doesn't 0.97
00:09:18.400 mean that they're not brilliant people. They're on there for a reason. They're very smart.
00:09:22.980 They're just deceitful and they're liars, okay? 0.98
00:09:25.560 There's a difference between the two. 0.97
00:09:26.940 You can be smart and vindictive.
00:09:28.780 I say this about Hillary Clinton all the time. 0.88
00:09:30.720 Can't stand the woman, but you can't deny that she's not a great politician. 1.00
00:09:34.340 You can't deny that she's an extremely brilliant politician. 1.00
00:09:39.060 Tati Brown-Jackson's even, I do not know where they found this woman, how she ended up on that court,
00:09:45.080 because this woman doesn't understand the simplest, the simplest form or terms of the law. 0.98
00:09:51.900 I wouldn't even trust her in a in a traffic ticket courtroom in. 0.88
00:09:57.480 I don't know who's got like a low population, Topeka, Kansas.
00:10:00.920 I'm probably off there. They probably got a lot of people in there.
00:10:03.460 But living in New York, it's hard because, you know, everything's small.
00:10:07.560 But I wouldn't even trust this woman, like I said, in a in a parking court ticket situation. 1.00
00:10:14.100 Well, she was not picked because she was brilliant.
00:10:17.100 If you remember, she was specifically picked because she had black skin and she was a woman. 1.00
00:10:23.900 But then she could not define what a woman was. 0.67
00:10:27.440 And ever since then, everybody has had a target on her back going, what is it that you are talking about?
00:10:33.120 So nobody really understands where she was going with that example of stealing somebody's wallet makes you like eligible for military service in Japan.
00:10:44.120 Like, I don't know what she's talking about, to be honest.
00:10:47.100 Oh, man. And you know what? President Trump was probably sitting there holding in his laughter like this is who we've got here.
00:11:01.980 I'd like to dish it both ways, Stephen. I like to report honestly.
00:11:05.740 And when when there's bad on both sides, I want to report it bad on both sides.
00:11:09.460 We've got some Supreme Court picks from President Trump that have not panned out to be, I think, what we all expected.
00:11:16.200 and we had all hoped i i think what we saw brett kavanaugh and the lines that president trump went
00:11:21.880 through to get him there the guiding him through through all the false allegations president trump
00:11:26.000 could have just dumped him and said the hell with you man you know you drank beers in college and 0.86
00:11:30.260 they're coming after you the hell with you uh any coney barrett they came after her he could have 0.95
00:11:35.340 cut cut the leash and said all right you know on to the next one gorsuch got through you know
00:11:40.240 flying colors but uh he's been a stalwart i gotta be honest gorsuch has been everything as expected
00:11:47.720 three gorsuch is on that court and and things would be i think far different than we are today
00:11:51.640 but those other two kavanaugh and any coney barrett have not been a conservative stalwarts
00:11:58.840 and here's an argument from any coney barrett with dijon sour again um pretty much making the
00:12:07.500 argument that birthright citizenship is here to stay. Take a listen. Okay, let's talk about its 0.70
00:12:13.080 applications. So, you know, there are some, I can imagine it being messy in some applications.
00:12:18.960 So how, what would you do with what the common law called foundlings? You know, the thing about
00:12:24.540 this is then you have to adjudicate if you're looking at parents and if you're looking at
00:12:28.300 parents' domicile, then you have to adjudicate both residence and intent to stay. What if you
00:12:33.480 don't know who the parents are i think there are marginal cases that one i think has the benefit
00:12:37.720 of being addressed in 1401f where it talks about yeah yeah but what about the constitution under
00:12:42.620 the constitution it's it's dumb i mean look there domicile is a constitutional standard in all kinds
00:12:47.080 of other situations well and it's hard diversity jurisdiction personal jurisdiction sorry well yeah 0.96
00:12:51.360 and personal jurisdiction i mean 1332 diversity jurisdiction and the thing is it has to be
00:12:56.080 litigated because it turns on intent and both the virtue of both you solely and you sanguinis
00:13:02.500 whichever one you pick, it's a bright line rule.
00:13:05.340 How would it work?
00:13:06.320 How would you adjudicate these cases?
00:13:08.080 You're not going to know at the time of birth for some people
00:13:11.120 whether they have the intent to stay or not,
00:13:14.160 including U.S. citizens, by the way.
00:13:16.620 I mean, what if you have someone who is living in Norway
00:13:19.480 with their husband and family but is still a U.S. citizen,
00:13:23.260 comes home and has her child here and goes back? 0.99
00:13:26.120 How do we know whether the child is a U.S. citizen
00:13:28.220 because the parent didn't have an intent to stay?
00:13:30.220 I'd say make two points, one practical, one legal. The practical point is under the terms of this executive order, you don't have to because the executive order turns on objectively verifiable things, which is immigration status. Are you lawfully present but temporarily present or do you have an illegal status?
00:13:44.380 So those kind of like, you know, taking evidence, so to speak, under subjective intent wouldn't be done.
00:13:49.820 And as to the constitutional point, obviously domicile is baked into a lot of constitutional and legal concepts.
00:13:54.440 And there may be situations where facts are determined.
00:13:57.460 But if you look at the guidance, the guidance that all the agencies did after this court in Casa said the agency could go forward to issue guidance,
00:14:03.120 the guidance provides, I think, very, very clear, objective, verifiable approaches to doing this.
00:14:09.720 And so as a practical matter, I don't think it's presented by this example.
00:14:13.880 So it doesn't seem like any Coney Barrett on board.
00:14:17.060 John Roberts more than signaled throughout the whole course that he's really not on board.
00:14:23.220 So I guess where does that leave us?
00:14:26.860 So one of the things that was confusing for her was intent to stay.
00:14:31.200 Right. Well, an illegal immigrant should have no intention of staying because they came in illegally. 1.00
00:14:36.720 She gave the example of what if an American citizen lives in Norway, comes home, has a baby and goes back.
00:14:42.940 you don't know that her intent was to stay. It doesn't matter where she lives because she is an 0.81
00:14:48.000 American citizen and that child was born an American citizen. And in addition to United
00:14:55.240 States being one of the only countries that you become a citizen by being born here, we're one of
00:15:00.440 the only countries that no matter where you live in the world, if you make money, America gets to
00:15:05.680 tax you. So her American citizenship is tied to taxation with representation. Therefore, 0.98
00:15:12.940 that child, I believe, is in a very different position than one that came up from, let's
00:15:19.140 say, Guatemala or Belize or something, just with the intent of getting into the American
00:15:25.540 system.
00:15:26.820 Yeah, and I think it's been flowed around and it's been said, Annie Coney Barrett, her
00:15:32.520 and her husband have seven children, two of whom are adopted from Haiti.
00:15:37.160 So she has kids who are adopted from, you know, other countries.
00:15:40.420 So people have said that she has some sort of soft spot in her heart, but the Supreme Court is not for having a soft spot.
00:15:46.480 The Supreme Court is, as I keep saying, for truth, justice and the American way, Stephen, and the Constitution.
00:15:52.360 And I think you and I and our audience can all agree on that.
00:15:57.880 We all have hearts at the end of the day. Right. I have a massive heart, even though my friends may say that I really don't.
00:16:05.700 But, you know, at the end of the day, Stephen, the rules are the rules and the laws are the laws.
00:16:10.160 You steal somebody's wallet, you're going to jail. Well, maybe not in New York, but most other places, you know, you're going to jail, especially Japan. 0.58
00:16:18.480 You're probably getting hung. And, you know, that's that's what I feel like the Supreme Court has gotten to.
00:16:24.280 It's become this social justice chamber trying not to hurt people's feelings.
00:16:29.240 And that's going to hurt the American people and their feelings.
00:16:33.080 Yeah. One more thing that I would say, and I'm not a legal scholar, but just from reading up on this,
00:16:37.800 The 14th Amendment was specifically ratified into law in order to protect the posterity of black American slaves.
00:16:48.080 And after slavery and the emancipation, that was a protected group of Americans called foundational black Americans.
00:16:56.720 They had all of the same rights as everybody else.
00:16:59.340 And the 14th Amendment was about if you have children because they're in America, they have an allegiance to America.
00:17:07.520 Therefore, they get to benefit from America. And what she's saying is these people that come in, they get the benefits of America, but they have allegiance to China or militaries and other areas.
00:17:18.300 And so it really is unfair to American children to have this, you know, birther to tourism, illegal immigrants coming in. 1.00
00:17:27.780 They end up living off of the system and it's meant to benefit those that are in a closed loop system.
00:17:34.420 Otherwise, you have to come here and become a citizen the proper way.
00:17:40.340 Yeah, they'll be happy when it's when it's all over, Stephen.
00:17:42.480 They'll be happy when and you already have it.
00:17:45.100 I mean, everything is manufactured in China.
00:17:48.440 The same reason their ships look like our ships and their ships operate like our hours operate.
00:17:54.960 You know, they have all the specs to all of our bombers and everything like that.
00:17:58.780 So, you know what? They'll be happy when Americans are speaking Chinese. 1.00
00:18:02.220 They'll be happy when Americans are speaking Indian. 1.00
00:18:04.100 I think that's that's maybe when these people will be happy.
00:18:08.180 It's truly a travesty.
00:18:10.000 I want to turn to something else that may get caught up in the Supreme Court.
00:18:13.520 And it's President Trump's executive order last night on the mail and ballots.
00:18:18.200 He's had enough because we know the Democrats use mail and ballots.
00:18:22.400 It's like their number one or number two way of stealing elections.
00:18:26.120 Now, I rolled this clip last night for our audience, but I want to get your reaction on this.
00:18:30.100 Nancy Pelosi sounding extremely coherent, talking about voting machines, Stephen.
00:18:35.580 And now I don't know who put her up to this or she put her up to this, but put herself up to this.
00:18:40.380 But she thinks that in 2026 in the midterm elections, the Republicans are going to somehow act in the voting machines.
00:18:47.540 I've never heard of that in my life. I've never heard of voting machines being vulnerable.
00:18:52.320 Let's take a listen to coherent Nancy. 1.00
00:18:54.620 We always have concerns, but with this president and these Republicans who have no commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way, we're ready.
00:19:07.000 And we have three purposes now.
00:19:09.240 One is to win the midterms.
00:19:11.560 Two is to make sure the elections are safe.
00:19:14.640 And three, to tell people what we will do when we win.
00:19:19.380 And that is the mission.
00:19:21.240 the uh all there's so many things that you can do to protect the election
00:19:26.840 and they are being done whether it's litigation or legislation or just
00:19:33.200 mobilization communication all that but in addition to that we have to be on guard as to
00:19:41.440 what they may try to do to the technology they may try to creep into the technology
00:19:47.040 and create a false count.
00:19:49.760 How do you guard against that?
00:19:50.820 That's a challenge.
00:19:53.320 Wait a second.
00:19:55.180 Creep into the technology?
00:19:57.520 How are they going to do that?
00:19:59.300 Voting machines aren't online.
00:20:00.880 Voting machines aren't vulnerable.
00:20:02.460 Nancy herself told us that,
00:20:04.180 and she called everyone else who said that they were
00:20:06.900 conspiracy theorists, insurrectionists,
00:20:09.940 domestic terrorists.
00:20:11.520 What's going on with Nancy, Steve?
00:20:14.220 You know, it's all come full circle.
00:20:16.320 So Democrats were the first ones to actually raise the fact that voting machines were vulnerable and they didn't know that they liked mail-in ballots.
00:20:25.820 Well, once they realized that they could manipulate or rig elections through machines, through bloated voter rolls and through mail-in ballots and counting after Election Day, that's probably the biggest way that they manipulate elections.
00:20:43.040 But now that Donald Trump's involved, suddenly he knows how to hack these machines and do all the things that they said were impossible in 2020.
00:20:53.120 So, you know, they spin whatever narrative they need.
00:20:56.520 But I believe that they're setting a pretext for if they end up not taking back the House, they can say it must have been rigged.
00:21:04.460 We did everything we could for you.
00:21:06.300 But, you know, she said one of the main things that they need to do is to make sure that the elections are safe.
00:21:12.380 That's what the American people want over 80, about 84 percent of Americans want there to be voter ID.
00:21:19.860 And yet you see Nancy Pelosi and her cohort doing everything they can to black to block President Trump from making sure that you don't have to show an ID because they can only win in certain areas with mail in ballots and no check of voter ID or signature verification.
00:21:42.380 I checked Polymark. I don't know if you look at this or your audience or my audience, but
00:21:47.440 Polymark and CalShare, I think are two really good indicators on how things are going. And the
00:21:52.720 reason I say that is because it's people actually putting their money where their mouth is. Now,
00:21:56.500 I'm not advocating for the gambling of it or anything like that, but I like to look at those
00:22:00.660 two indicators because it tells me what the people are thinking. It tells me what the people know.
00:22:05.620 So when I look this morning, AOC's shares have surged 40 percent in the twenty twenty eight presidential election odds as the Democrats are looking towards new leadership.
00:22:17.100 Should we be absolutely terrified or should we be cheering this on?
00:22:21.060 I don't mind her running because I think that we have a better bench of people to run against her. 0.64
00:22:27.460 My only issue with polymarket isn't that it's not accurate, but this far out from an election, all you have to do is place a bunch of bets in the name of the person that you want and then try to get a bunch of people to talk about it.
00:22:39.600 I think as we get closer and the only reason I say this is, you know, going into the 2024 election, you had Trump and Kamala pretty close.
00:22:49.380 Well, by the time you got to election, all of that had shifted over to Trump.
00:22:53.400 And on election night, it was like ninety nine to one that he was going.
00:22:57.660 So I just think right now it's a little bit too far out to be accurate.
00:23:02.080 But I would love for AOC to run.
00:23:04.820 I think Gavin Newsom might get knocked out once they start attaching all of the fraud that he covered up in California.
00:23:11.240 So AOC, former bartender, we'll see.
00:23:14.000 She might be a contender. 1.00
00:23:15.560 Well, the reason you have that that ninety nine to one is because people pull out their money and that's just how it goes.
00:23:20.080 So I don't know.
00:23:20.960 I like I like to look at those indicators.
00:23:22.620 And as we've seen with Iran, there were some people who are very accurate on some bets on Iran.
00:23:27.880 So an interesting one.
00:23:29.440 So let's turn to Iran and the war that seems to be wrapping up.
00:23:33.760 I think President Trump has had enough with Iran, with the job that we've done there. 0.99
00:23:40.560 And I think he more importantly, he's had enough with NATO.
00:23:43.900 Let's take a listen to Secretary of State Marco Rubio and his thoughts on NATO last night.
00:23:47.960 The NATO is simply about us having troops in Europe to defend Europe.
00:23:51.940 But when we need their help, not their help, we're not asking them to conduct airstrikes.
00:23:56.480 When we need them to allow us to use their military bases, their answer is no.
00:24:01.020 Then why are we in NATO?
00:24:02.260 You have to ask that question.
00:24:03.380 why do we have billions and billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars over the years,
00:24:08.120 trillions of dollars, and all these American forces stationed in the region? If we can only
00:24:12.460 use, in our time of need, we're not going to be allowed to use those bases. So I think there's no
00:24:17.900 doubt, unfortunately, after this conflict is concluded, we are going to have to reexamine
00:24:22.840 that relationship. I mean, the very reason for us being in NATO is to use their bases
00:24:27.800 to share intel, which they don't really do with us. Other than that, I really don't see it. I
00:24:32.840 I think I see NATO as us just paying a high rent bill for housing our military bases over
00:24:38.720 there.
00:24:38.920 What do you see it as?
00:24:40.440 It's getting harder and harder to justify $1.5 trillion, 5% of U.S. GDP on something
00:24:48.580 that doesn't really benefit America.
00:24:50.980 I mean, let's be honest, there isn't a Hitler in Europe right now.
00:24:55.300 You could maybe say that it's Putin, but Putin isn't trying to take over Europe.
00:24:59.960 He is fighting Ukraine.
00:25:01.420 That's gone on longer than necessary. We now are finding out that nearly 200 million dollars of our money was going to be laundered back to Biden and Harris in order to keep them in, according to Tulsi Gabbard and John Solomon at Just the News.
00:25:17.600 But I think it's getting harder and harder. Do we need to pull out of NATO? No.
00:25:21.240 But Marco Rubio also said last night it might be time to revamp.
00:25:26.260 Maybe we have different security guarantees and maybe some of our men and women in uniform and a lot of our money come back to defending the United States.
00:25:35.780 Think how much you could do for America and the U.S. military with an extra one point five trillion every year.
00:25:42.360 Yeah, I'm just tired of it. I'm tired of everyone stepping on America, walking all over us like we're some sort of sucker. 0.96
00:25:48.340 and we get absolutely nothing forward.
00:25:51.660 This, I think, was the ultimate test of NATO.
00:25:53.420 When we needed them the most, we need them not military.
00:25:56.840 They didn't even this is the thing that annoys me the most.
00:25:59.480 Trump didn't go to them and say, hey, listen, carpet bomb the heck out of Iran.
00:26:04.420 He did that on his own. He did that. Israel did that. 0.96
00:26:07.620 He went to them and said, listen, help us get the Strait of Hormuz open
00:26:11.440 so you guys can pay for your gas prices.
00:26:13.720 I told the audience yesterday, I spent last week in Europe and part-time in France and part-time in Switzerland, Stephen, gas was $10 to $11 a gallon.
00:26:25.280 These are the people who are feeling the brunt of the oil prices.
00:26:29.520 Yes, we're feeling it.
00:26:30.640 There's no doubt about it.
00:26:31.740 We're feeling it by a buck, a buck 50 in some states less than that.
00:26:37.120 But it's going to be very temporarily.
00:26:38.940 And I've said this weeks, not years, not months, weeks.
00:26:42.200 they're the ones who are paying 11 bucks a gallon for gas. They need the straight open
00:26:49.320 more than we need the straight open. And they don't want to do anything about it.
00:26:53.820 Yeah. President Trump said a couple of months ago that if America found itself in a situation,
00:26:59.220 he did not believe that Europe and NATO would have our back. And look at it now. France,
00:27:05.740 don't use our air bases. Don't use your own equipment. No, no airspace. Then Spain jumps
00:27:11.720 in on that then italy jumps in on that really honestly what what do we why do we have our
00:27:16.920 people over there bring them back home defend our own border sink that money into having a million
00:27:23.580 drones ready to go uh like make america strong again i i don't know i think we we signed a new
00:27:32.540 agreement hey if there's a new hitler and you need us we'll show up in the meantime we're not
00:27:37.560 going to keep sending you $1.5 trillion to make Europe great again when it could be making America
00:27:43.720 great again. Yeah, totally accurate and I think reasonable proposition. And I think we're going
00:27:52.900 to see soon from President Trump whether he wants to stay in, revamp it, or just get out
00:27:58.020 all inclusively. But I guess that'll be something also that will head to the Supreme Court as it
00:28:04.380 seems everything's going to the Supreme Court now because the rogue Marxist Dems can't seem to get
00:28:09.920 their head around their Trump derangement syndrome. Steve, it's always a delight to have you here,
00:28:13.980 my friend. It's always a delight to talk with you. And I think the audience enjoys it most.
00:28:18.580 As always, you get the last word, my friend. Oh, I'm just I'm hoping that this war will come
00:28:26.100 to an end. I don't want President Trump to completely decimate Iran because we don't
00:28:31.920 want to do nation building over there. I think this thing would have been bada bing bada boom.
00:28:36.560 Instead, the Hormuz thing became boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I mean, we can just keep 0.97
00:28:42.520 hitting them all day long. Israel can keep hitting them all day long. But we do want to get that oil 0.99
00:28:48.260 flowing. We don't want to hurt the rest of the global economy. Just because America was smart 0.94
00:28:52.760 enough to secure their own oil situation doesn't mean the rest of the world is. We don't want to
00:28:57.580 hurt japan or europe um so i believe that this thing is going to be wrapping up very very soon
00:29:02.720 i'm with you on that amen my brother steven gardner host of the steven gardner show we'll
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