The Great America Show is dedicated to the proposition that truth, justice and the American Way are essential qualities of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. President Joe Biden's administration is flagging, and in serious political trouble. Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of the ever-more essential read, The Federalist, joins us to discuss why.
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00:00:13.900The Ukrainians claim they've liberated the Kyiv region and now control the city, its outskirts, and surrounding areas.
00:00:21.380While Russia says it's de-escalating in the Kyiv region and pivoting its forces to eastern Ukraine and the Donbass region, which includes the Russian-recognized republics of Luhansk and Donetsk.
00:00:35.420And it appears the strategy is aimed at an east-west partition of Ukraine.
00:00:40.960And reportedly, Russian President Vladimir Putin is insisting his military deliver him dominion over the Donbass region by early next month.
00:00:52.700Meanwhile, President Vladimir Zelensky declares that Ukraine will never concede Crimea or any other Ukrainian territory,
00:01:02.080and Ukrainians will accept only defeat of the Russians who've invaded his nation.
00:01:07.520Zelensky also demanded that Western powers send him heavy weaponry and aircraft to carry on the fight against Russia,
00:01:17.380a fight that he seems to think he's winning.
00:01:21.020The President of the European Parliament saying the people of Europe are standing with Ukraine,
00:01:26.100and despite Vladimir Putin's warnings, President Roberta Metzola said Europe will support Ukraine joining the European Union.
00:01:36.100President Biden doesn't have enough challenges and threats to contend with,
00:01:41.060with war in Eastern Europe and continued nuclear threats by Putin,
00:01:45.580and at home, inflation racing to just under hyperinflation levels and the prospect of a slowing economy.
00:01:53.660Biden is now pushing $5.8 trillion in his spending plan, which has no chance of passage,
00:02:01.040even with this rhino-laden House and Senate voting on it.
00:02:05.380Biden ended the Trump-era emergency rule to expel quickly illegal immigrants and refugees to Mexico or their home countries,
00:02:14.680all of this despite more than 2 million illegal immigrants who flooded into the United States in Biden's first year in office.
00:02:23.920And Biden's approval numbers continue to fall, and then fall some more,
00:02:28.000while the country is more divided than ever under his presidency.
00:07:26.980He's always been a know-nothing, and he's never, ever had any interest in ever admitting being wrong about anything, ever.
00:07:33.500So I guess in that regard, that just makes him kind of a typical politician.
00:07:37.080But I'll tell you, I was actually really thankful for what he said when he said, you know,
00:07:43.340good grief, this guy can't be allowed to remain in power,
00:07:46.040because Joe Biden said out loud the thing that a lot of us knew his administration was doing,
00:07:52.180which is using Ukraine in some sort of idiotic ploy to enact regime change in Russia and overthrow Putin.
00:08:01.100Now, they've been dishonest about it for years, but Ukraine has been the playground of these neoliberal interventionists for more than a decade.
00:08:09.780It's been a money-laundering playground.
00:08:11.840It's been an influence-peddling playground.
00:08:14.200Ukraine is essential to the graft and grift of so many people of the neoliberal foreign policy interventionist class,
00:08:22.360and they have been pretending throughout this whole battle there that, oh, no, this is just about the Ukrainian people being free.
00:08:29.000This is just about, you know, making sure that this sovereign nation isn't attacked.
00:08:34.780Now, that may be part of it, but that was never their main goal.
00:08:37.620And the real gaffe that Joe Biden made when he said that was he made clear to everyone abundantly in his own words,
00:08:43.840from his own mouth, what his administration's actual goals were there.
00:08:47.540And it's not peace, and it's not stability.
00:08:49.900And when you say neoliberal, I immediately think of a triad that is Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and George Soros.
00:09:01.260Are those the names that you were thinking of when you said that?
00:14:48.920Right, and a no-fly zone is itself a declaration of war.
00:14:52.080It is no different than a shipping boycott, uh, cutting off ocean lanes for commerce,
00:14:57.280because how does one enforce a no-fly zone?
00:14:59.740You don't just declare it and people stop flying there.
00:15:02.440You enforce it by shooting down airplanes that aren't supposed to be in it.
00:15:06.600So what is the natural result from the U.S. or NATO declaring a no-fly zone over Ukraine?
00:15:12.300It means you are ready and willing and able to shoot down aircraft of a major global nuclear power.
00:15:19.820That is idiocy on stilts, and I kind of think it takes someone with so little familiarity with the cost of war,
00:15:28.780with what it does to people's bodies, with what it does to their souls.
00:15:32.260After all, this is Mitt Romney, a man who I'm not sure anyone in his family serves, said his, uh, his sons,
00:15:39.240none of whom served in the military, really serves their country by working on his campaigns and his political causes.
00:15:44.960So this gives you an idea of how divorced this man is from the cost and sacrifices of war.
00:15:50.700And I just find it, having watched Iraq, having watched Afghanistan, having friends have their lives altered there,
00:15:58.200because none of those people, even if they come back, is whole in their flesh.
00:16:03.080They're different people when they come back.
00:16:04.820They bear scars to people that don't see.
00:16:07.100And people in power in this country who don't really pay any attention or any consideration to that cost absolutely disgusts me,
00:16:14.380because they treat war like it's a game, they treat it like it's the Red Sox for the Yankees, and I quite honestly have had enough of them.
00:16:22.800You and me both, and I've had enough of the corporate media that goes along with this as if it's just fine.
00:16:28.860It's simply a debate between elites who are given their space in the public consciousness, and nothing should violate that space, certainly facts.
00:16:38.600I am so appalled with the Republicans, 40 Republican senators.
00:16:45.100If I were the Democratic president of this country, think about a far-fetched proposition here,
00:16:53.520I would hammer the Republican Party bloody on it, and I think you could count another 20 points on Biden's approval numbers,
00:17:22.940Right, and it's this under-remarked-upon dynamic, I think, especially on the right, but also on the left.
00:17:28.300The reason Donald Trump was elected in 2016, in large part, wasn't just his populism and a general disgust with the political establishment.
00:17:36.900He was elected in large part because of his views on foreign policy.
00:17:40.740The American people had grown sick and tired of aimless wars, even if they may have been conceived with good intentions,
00:17:47.800being poorly prosecuted, costing trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives and limbs of Americans.
00:17:53.400It's the same reason that Barack Obama was elected.
00:17:55.520He was elected because of the Bush administration's failures in Iraq, either whether you want to blame going there in the first place or mishandling it when we were there.
00:18:04.220But unfortunately, so much of the media is very much part of this neoliberal interventionist uniparty war.
00:18:12.160They have an ideological investment in it.
00:18:14.800There's something they just enjoy about saying, well, if you're not in favor of this,
00:18:20.020it must be because you don't love this country or you don't love the Ukrainians or something.
00:18:23.820There's just something almost pathological about it.
00:18:26.600But let's be honest, war is great for ratings.
00:18:32.020And it creates terrible incentives for people in Washington who are often far more connected to the media there than they are to their own constituents.
00:18:40.260And I think it's how you end up with a party in Washington on both sides that is utterly divorced from the desires of its base.
00:18:49.080I don't think the Democrat base has any interest in going and starting a whole bunch of wars.
00:18:53.040And I know the Republican Party certainly doesn't.
00:18:55.360And yet we seem to be left with this uniparty in Washington that is just eager and willing to go off to any new war that Lindsey Graham sets its sights on.
00:19:04.240Yeah, I, this uniparty that you described is a group of elites.
00:19:09.800It's the wealthy, the donor class in both political parties.
00:19:14.900In the case of the Republican Party, Donald Trump succeeded in creating a new foundation for the Republican Party, in my judgment.
00:19:23.680And I'd like to hear your thinking on this, but certainly working men and women, their families, small business people, the so-called forgotten American.
00:19:35.040And there's an absolutely wide open, everybody take a look, breach between the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable and the Republican Party, whether it be on Capitol Hill or whether it be in fundraising and the RNC.
00:19:52.280It's a different, different moment and a great moment, I believe, for an opportunistic and energized Republican Party.
00:20:01.740Yeah, there's very much a realignment going on among voters.
00:20:06.780I think back to the early 2000s where Republicans were the party of big business, their party of tax cuts.
00:20:13.840They were initially the party of small spending.
00:20:54.720But it is a wildly different scene now for both parties and both their bases than it was, you know, five or 10 or 20 years ago.
00:21:03.500Yes, I don't think it was in the least intuitive.
00:21:06.940I don't think it was just happenstance or serendipity.
00:21:11.540Because if you go back throughout his campaign, he is appealing to working men and women.
00:21:16.940He's talking about the forgotten American.
00:21:19.060He is talking about, from the very beginning, a humble foreign policy.
00:21:27.040He takes on the Bush family for a purpose.
00:21:30.640And that was, they were emblematic of the, as you're describing it, the neoliberal investment in foreign wars, preferably with a country of approximately a 30 billion population, and a Stone Age military that could be easily swatted.
00:21:48.720Those, you know, I think it's an apt description of certainly Iraq.
00:21:52.540It's certainly an apt description of Afghanistan and wherever else we put our troops, all 100-plus countries in which we suddenly had troops.
00:22:03.320It's now being re-engineered by this president, you know, Robinette Biden, is really quite something.
00:22:14.740Because without intellect, without knowledge, he is pursuing a foreign policy.
00:22:23.720And with Biden, you almost have to set aside the ideological kind of use of foreign policy and look just at the blundering, duttering idiocy that his administration is.
00:22:35.860There's a reason Putin didn't try what he did with Ukraine when Donald Trump was in office.
00:22:40.520And I think it's because so many leaders thought Trump was insane, and if they so much as stepped out of line, he'd nuke him.
00:22:49.720And I'm not sure there are many politicians or many leaders who could have pulled that off the way Trump did just because of his persona.
00:22:57.200But when you look at the history of foreign policy in the U.S., I think Trump really did return to America's kind of Jacksonian roots where we want to be left alone.
00:23:22.400He sat in those debates with Al Gore and promised that America wasn't going to do nation building because the people were so upset by what they had seen in Eastern Europe and Serbia and all that that Bill Clinton was doing with what had happened in Somalia.
00:23:35.760And Bush came in there and said, yeah, I get it, no new nation building.
00:23:39.060And then within nine months, he had completely changed his view and decided that in order to beat terrorists who we let into our country through a garbage immigration system, we just had to go to war with them all around the world, hell or high water and the cost be damned.
00:23:53.480I think we can all look back on that now and acknowledge it was a failure, regardless of where we may have been at the time, whether we supported Iraq or Afghanistan.
00:24:02.320Those options clearly failed and they cost us greatly and they gave us what we have now, which is a doddering old fool in the White House and a government that that leaders across the world simply don't take seriously.
00:24:16.300I mean, we lost a war to a bunch of inbred seventh century, seventh century mountain goat herders in Afghanistan that was supposed to be impossible.
00:24:25.380And yet it happened because we had a government and a military and political leadership who were so unfocused.
00:24:31.780And and we wonder why Putin rolls into Ukraine. We wonder why Xi Jinping is newly assertive.
00:24:38.360Of course, they're doing this because no not only are we no longer respected, we're not feared either.
00:24:43.680And that is a really, really bad spot to be in for any country, let alone the United States.
00:24:49.160You know, from this, spins out a number of issues and you as entrepreneur, businessman, as well as journalist and running a terrific editorial outlet.
00:25:01.580But there is also within the beltway, this view that they that there is has to be an acceptance.
00:25:11.220As you mentioned, Trump's persona, Trump's taking advantage of the fact that he was unpredictable and might be rash even.
00:25:21.760But in fact, everything from the beginning showed a man who was trying to bring our troops home, a man who was trying to balance trade and not squander more wealth through the through the external debt that results from trade deficits.
00:25:40.760He was a man who wanted people to have a tax cut because government certainly was offering no premium for the vast trillions of dollars in taxes that they receive every year.
00:25:54.480It's it's a sort of stunning myth that was generated by the media itself, the elite corporate media, and then traded on by the rest of the elite media, creating a separate reality of perception.
00:26:10.760And by that, I mean, a perception in the public consciousness that had nothing to do with the reality of the man, his purpose or his policies.
00:26:24.500I actually think that the corrupt corporate media in this country are the single biggest threat to American liberty, to American freedom, to American prosperity, because they have shown us clearly over the last five years,
00:26:37.460whether it's big tech, whether it's CNN or Washington Post or New York Times, they have shown us they will do anything, they will say anything to maintain power.
00:26:51.340Just just look at the whole Russian collusion hoax where they peddled a dossier they all knew was a bunch of nonsensical lies, pushed it for years to overthrow a president who was a threat to their own power.
00:27:01.360Look what they did during the 2020 election.
00:27:04.900All the things that they had said and alleged about the Trump family, Donald Trump himself, his sons, is actually true of the Biden family.
00:27:13.900You know, when you look at Hunter, when you look at Joe using his family, using his name and his access to make money.
00:27:21.220And so how did the media respond when those facts started coming out, when Hunter Biden's laptop confirmed all the money he was taking from Chinese oligarchs, from Ukrainian oligarchs?
00:27:38.360And that's what we're dealing with now.
00:27:40.380And I honestly don't know how we continue in this country with a media that is so hostile to reality, so hostile to truth, and so willing to use its power to shut down and destroy anyone who says something so simple as boys and girls are different.
00:27:58.800And until they're dealt with, until they're taken care of, I don't know how we continue as a country.
00:28:03.580Yeah, I have the same concerns, and I believe they run just as deep as your own.
00:28:12.920And I can't offer an optimistic statement at this point, but I can say this.
00:28:16.660If those who are not corporate media outlets will repair to a standard of truth, that is, deal with the reality, do not accept the corporate outlet view of the manufactured optics of reality that they like to spin up every day, and take on the reality.
00:28:41.960To me, it's that direct, that simple, and that, of course, hard to execute.
00:28:49.160Because we have so many failures, it's time for some success.
00:28:53.060And one of the things, the least, it seems to me, that we could do is each of us absolutely commit ourselves to truth and not go along with this nonsense that truth has three or four different sides.
00:29:06.140Truth is truth, and it's inherent upon our journalistic operations, that is, independent of corporate ownership, to really go there and stay there and fight like hell.
00:29:21.860So I wanted to ask one question that's obvious, I suppose, here, and I don't see anybody really dealing with it in the Republican Party or in the media.
00:30:01.520I mean, recall that if Trump was walking up the stairs and paused for a second, they said, oh, he's crazy, he's not physically or mentally stable, we've got to do the 25th Amendment, or if he said, you know, good morning at 12.01 p.m., oh, he doesn't even know what time it is, this guy's crazy, we've got to get him out of there.
00:30:18.220There's a reason they're not giving Joe Biden a cognitive test.
00:30:52.720So, of course, the people in the White House who control him, who are actually calling the shots, are not about to go put him under the microscope and then release the lab results.
00:31:01.860And speaking of calling shots, do you have a sense of who is in the cabal, the steering committee of the Biden administration?
00:31:16.260They don't exactly give us conservatives at the Federalist a lot of access to the inner workings of the Biden White House.
00:31:23.620I suspect, however, that much of it is through Susan Rice.
00:31:28.220I think the Obamas are probably controlling a fair amount of it.
00:31:31.020I don't think there's anyone on earth who thinks that when he had the opportunity to pick his vice president that Joe Biden went around and said, you know what, I want the person who is so unpopular, she had to drop out of the entire primary before a single vote was cast, and that's who I want by my side.
00:31:48.100I think Kamala was picked for him after he had exceeded to it.
00:31:52.940The deck was cleared for him in the primary.
00:31:55.060I suspect the Obamas are behind that, and they're behind much of what's happening now, but that's just pure speculation on my part.
00:32:03.880Well, I'm going to ask you to speculate as we conclude here on one other aspect.
00:32:09.660William Barr comes out with a new book.
00:32:12.620In the interviews for that book, he acknowledges what he wrote, which was that he knew Joe Biden was lying through his teeth in that final debate about his son's laptop.
00:32:25.060And then he said he didn't want to intervene in the election of 2020, which is palpable nonsense.
00:32:34.260But secondly, he said that that rose to the level of intervention on the part of Joe Biden when he intervened in the election by lying.
00:32:47.260Are you stunned that a lawyer of his repute and a man of his responsibility for his tenure as attorney general is so weakly reasoned?
00:33:00.260I think I think I'll probably disagree with you a little on that.
00:33:12.280I'm not sure there is anyone else in the country who would have looked at the Russian collusion stuff, torn it apart, put a special prosecutor on it the way Bill Barr did.
00:33:22.740But when you look at the things he wrote before coming in to that office, I recall he wrote a long letter to Rod Rosenstein when Sessions was still AG and but recused and Rosenstein was acting AG, laying out all of the problems with the Mueller probe, how it was inappropriate for DOJ to be involved in this and that, that it was rank political intervention.
00:33:43.940I think Barr believed in his core that it wasn't DOJ's job to be interjecting in those types of situations.
00:33:54.240It wasn't the AG's job to be fact checking presidential candidates, especially after what happened in 2016.
00:34:03.360Now, I totally understand why people disagree with that, why they're frustrated.
00:34:07.540One of the frustrating things about being a conservative is that we're always playing with one hand tied behind our back, while the other party gets everyone together and, you know, beats us up as a gang.
00:34:17.920So I totally understand the frustration.
00:34:53.440I'm sure he has the best of intentions, highly principled.
00:34:58.320My problem is with his logic and with his responsibility as, as attorney general.
00:35:03.160When he lied, when president, then vice president, former vice president Biden lied to the American people and gave shelter, gave shelter to his son.
00:35:18.700It was an act that is without question, not about fact checking.
00:35:24.700It is about his responsibility as attorney general, as the top law enforcement officer in the country.
00:35:30.180I just can't imagine that he allowed the American people to be hornswoggled and lied to as a matter of quote unquote principle.
00:35:41.520I don't see the principle, the ethic in that at all.
00:36:13.260Now, it would be one thing if Joe Biden, if they had Joe Biden dead to rights doing illegal things, they knew about it.
00:36:20.340They knew he was selling influence and getting rich off of it and corruptly selling access.
00:36:24.580If they had that evidence, of course you have to charge.
00:36:27.660Now, maybe it's not, maybe it's further past the election or further before the election.
00:36:32.880I don't know, but I feel like this was a different thing going out and saying, well, no, that candidate lied.
00:36:40.940I just, I think it was a very difficult position he was put in by previous people in that office and in that department who had so damaged that institution.
00:36:52.700I mean, it's hard to look at James Comey and think there has been a worse, more destructive individual to American law enforcement, to the FBI and DOJ than that guy.
00:37:03.600And I think Barr looked at that and said, however he played, I'm going to try and do the opposite.
00:37:09.020He did the stupid Hillary press conference.
00:37:11.980I, you know, I, I take your point of view.
00:37:15.960I absolutely, I, I, I cannot imagine with history turning on your decision and letting a man lie to, to millions of Americans about the circumstance and the content of that laptop.
00:37:32.580And remember, remember this, the justice department all that time had Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:38:30.900And now we turn to the lawsuit that President Trump has filed against the people, the organizations and firms that he believes are responsible for what he initially called the Russian hoax.
00:38:41.900The effort to block his candidacy to be president and then to overthrow his presidency after he was elected.
00:38:49.760By 2020, many of us were calling that conspiracy and persecution against President Trump the biggest scandal in American history.
00:38:58.180And our next guest is Alina Haba, President Trump's attorney who's representing the president in the multimillion dollar lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the other defendants.
00:39:11.900Alina Haba, great to have you with us.
00:39:14.040I'd like to begin with the timing of the president's lawsuit.
00:39:17.560What precipitated this timing of the lawsuit's filing?
00:39:21.520The multiple investigations, mainly the Durham investigation that has come down with some indictments, has been really chilling for the former president and his affiliates in really diving into what has taken place,
00:39:39.080what he presumed was taking place, but now knows through Durham's research and in his latest motion, basically, where he's looking into the conflicts of interest.
00:39:52.160It was really telling where we could see that the VIPs, as he calls them, in many of his indictments, implicate Hillary Clinton herself and the Clinton campaign, etc.
00:40:11.020The Durham investigation has been remarkable because suddenly it appeared out of nowhere, the December filings.
00:40:21.300And we knew what had happened, but to see the special counsel, actually, after more than a year, proceed and to have actual legal action going forward,
00:40:38.760you know, fulfilling the charge that William Barr, the attorney general, then under President Trump, had given it.
00:40:48.180And it's very clear that this is only the beginning of the Durham investigation and the result of it in terms of legal action.
00:41:22.380And that I believe he is, in fact, building his own RICO case, where he's taking his time with each individual that he's indicting to connect the dots.
00:41:33.260And when you look at the motions in conjunction with the indictments that he put in place, it's really clear that he can see the connection all the way to the top.
00:41:42.720So if he would bring out these indictments, I'd read them and I could see this formation.
00:41:48.520And, you know, of course, with the help of former President Trump, who lived this, lived this and has been saying it, now we have some substantiation.
00:41:55.640Now we're starting to see that there's real evidence that what he's been saying all along was really happening and was happening in a major way.
00:42:04.060I mean, look at the FEC just a couple of days ago.
00:42:07.640You know, the DNC and the Clinton campaign paid fines to the FEC for exactly what this case is addressing.
00:42:14.660Right. And in and of itself, that is another development that supports the facts that you're alleging in your lawsuit.
00:42:23.760Right. And it also supports what everybody, quote unquote, knew that Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele, Bruce Orr, all of them.
00:42:36.960It's a this list of names, the defendant names in your lawsuit.
00:42:40.960Hillary Clinton, I just want to go through a few for the audience of Michael Sussman, indicted by the special counsel, John Durham, going through to Perkins Coy, the law firm for everything that the Democratic National Organization does, it seems.
00:43:01.940Jake Sullivan, now the National Security Advisor to President Biden, John Podessa, then the campaign chairman, Orbis Business Intelligence, that the firm, I believe, that was or is a Christopher Steele's operating entity.
00:43:20.900Rodney Jaffe, the tech executive, who apparently had access to communications at the White House itself.
00:43:32.860James Comey, who has disappeared from public view for some time now.
00:43:39.040I want to go through a few of those names with you to give the audience some better sense of where they are.
00:43:45.920And let's start with right now, Perkins Coy as a defendant going after that, the probably the biggest and best known Democratic law firm in the country.
00:43:58.840Right. Perkins Coy is effectively the DNC, right?
00:44:03.440They're they're an arm of anything Democratic.
00:44:06.560It's it's surprising to me as a lawyer.
00:44:10.720This one was a tough one because I it's disappointing.
00:44:13.400You know, we're attorneys, we have ethics.
00:44:16.300And as you know, I have other lawsuits that involve attorneys where I believe they're really not taking their ethical obligations seriously.
00:44:24.220So effectively what happened was they use Perkins Coy and they being the VIPs and the indictments.
00:44:30.540You know, we can assume now it's Hillary Clinton, the Clinton campaign and those affiliated with them.
00:44:37.220They use this law firm and use the privilege that law firms have with their clients, attorney client privilege to shield themselves from liability.
00:44:58.720I mean, imagine they negotiated a joint fundraising agreement with the Clinton campaign and the DNC, where effectively the former Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, ran and controlled the funds of the DNC through an agreement that Perkins Coy did.
00:45:16.580So imagine, you know, how I don't even know how they don't have a conflict, but they're representing both sides of an agreement.
00:45:24.400And then what they do is they're going and doing operative work.
00:45:27.100They're doing going through hiring Fusion GPS, hiring Orbis.
00:45:33.180You know, it's going down the chain and specifically stating Mark Elias, who was a partner at Perkins Coy, general counsel for the Clinton campaign and the DNC.
00:45:41.960He told Fusion GPS, he told them, look, there's an attorney's client privilege, and he made it clear that he was the go-between to shield the VIP so that there was privilege and nobody could communicate with each other so that he could maintain that privilege to shield them.
00:46:00.000And Mark Elias, his hands and his brains are all over the election of 2020.
00:46:09.320He was involved in almost every aspect of that campaign, setting up state legislators to build the absentee voting structures behind the predicate of all of that activity,
00:46:30.040which was to deal, of course, which was to deal, of course, with COVID and all of the larger margins that were granted as a result in election law so that people would have, quote, unquote, have the ability to vote despite the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:46:51.000Another name, Robert Mook, tell us about him.
00:46:58.240The Elias comment that we just discussed was actually in Simpson and Fritch's book in writing, which is they bragged about it.
00:47:07.560But going to Robert Mook, you know, he was the campaign manager for the Clinton campaign.
00:47:11.820Him and Philip Ryan, who was the communications advisor for the Clinton campaign, they made numerous defamatory statements regarding the Trump-Russia collusion.
00:47:22.900They basically fed the monster, right, being left-wing media, needing that speeding frenzy, for lack of a better word.
00:47:30.060They helped push it, and being, you know, the CEO, effectively, of these campaigns, you know, along with Jake Sullivan and John Podesta, you're effectively pushing a false narrative that you know you're paying for.
00:47:46.280You know you've hired a law firm to push.
00:48:06.080They had organized the disinformation, which was the point of the whole thing, in order to create the grounds for, eventually, the special counsel.
00:48:17.620It's a, it is an invidious construction, conspiracy, and effort politically that I hope has never been, I hope it's unprecedented.
00:48:32.740It's certainly one that I've never, never seen or heard of.
00:48:36.340But this is going to be, I would think, difficult in court to prove, though.
00:48:45.940And what do you see as your advantages as you go into the legal process?
00:48:51.080Yeah, I think the difficulty here is going to be, you know, the number of attorneys that we're going to be dealing with in size, because of how many defendants there are.
00:49:07.380But in the flip side of that, right, that cuts both ways, it's intentional.
00:49:13.100You, you know, we have everybody in one fell swoop, because to do multiple lawsuits on the same set of facts and divide them up would actually lose the big scheme.
00:49:26.760As difficult as it is, it has to be done this way.
00:49:29.620Civil RICO is in itself, you know, a difficult claim, but the benefit that my team has here is that, like we discussed, you know, we had Mueller, we had Durham, Durham in particular, really outlines that and proves, frankly, a lot of the items that I have claimed here to be true.
00:49:51.320And with the indictment, coupled with the FEC payment, which, you know, they did say was not indicative of, you know, they signed and wrote the check, but they said this is not an indication of our guilt.
00:50:13.060It obviously is a tough case, given the parties and, unfortunately, some of the corruption that we've seen.
00:50:18.500And, you know, we can only hope we get a fair judge who is going to look at this and look at the Durham indictments and look at all of this history and be able to put this together.
00:50:27.700And we drafted the complaint in a way that I think makes it very clean and clear.
00:50:31.720And how difficult is it going to be to proceed against, for example, former DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
00:50:39.560She had some interesting activities going on in that period.
00:50:45.860You know, the lost laptops, the all sorts of allegations against her and questions raised about her conduct.
00:50:57.960But where does she where where does she stand amongst the defendants?
00:51:05.180How important is she is what I'm asking?
00:51:07.120I mean, she was chairperson of the DNC in the scheme of importance.
00:51:11.300You know, I would like to say they're all important, of course.
00:51:13.760As an attorney, I should I should say they're all important.
00:51:17.700You know, she made several defamatory statements.
00:51:19.600She continues to regarding the Trump-Russia collusion.
00:51:21.840She pushed the narrative and she likely knew was false.
00:51:24.540And due to her role in the DNC as chairperson during the most relevant time period, she is pretty important.
00:51:34.040You know, she is kind of the DNC figurehead at this point when it comes to this case.
00:51:38.580And of course, James Comey, director of the FBI, he's certainly taken on a low profile for a guy who is writing books and sitting on every television show that he could get get to.
00:51:58.120So, yeah, he was the director of the FBI.
00:52:01.140Obviously, he signed three of the fights, the warrants, you know, but he knew they were based on unreliable information.
00:52:07.520And a lot of people don't realize that it's kind of granular.
00:52:10.900I did speak on Hannity about this the other night, but basically he had been advised by the CIA that the Clinton campaign was plotting to falsely implicate Trump as colluding with Russia.
00:52:22.820And he withheld that pertinent information from his FISA applications, including that the Steele dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and DNC.
00:52:31.480And that's a material, that's a material, you know, omission.
00:52:38.280So that's where where James Comey comes in, among other things.
00:54:55.360And this is, man, if there were ever a lawsuit that goes across all of the fault lines, left and right, liberal and conservative, Republican and Democrat, it's yours.
00:55:16.740It's not about your, it's un-American.
00:55:18.340And if we care at all, you know, in this, in this woke culture, if we care at all, and obviously I am a Republican, I am very conservative, but I have young children and I cannot imagine my children being raised in this world that we have created.
00:55:37.640And I don't blame one party over another, but I, I, I think that the lack of commitment to our constitution, to the fundamentals of this country, has led us down this rabbit hole.
00:55:49.860And I really hope that people can see this.
00:55:53.300And I have to say, I think the media in the scheme of things is realizing they can't bash this as much as they would anything else, because nobody wants to stand for this.
00:56:02.520You know, we don't want Watergate times a hundred ever to happen again.
00:56:10.260A lot of the cases that I argue are, you know, Westfall Act, presidential immunity, things that don't really have to do with your party affiliation, but have to do with the core values of this country.
00:56:21.480And this, this is really the mother of all of that, right?
00:56:25.520I mean, that's, this is what this case is.
00:56:27.300Yeah, I wish I could be as positive in my outlook on the legal system that this is a case where people will rise to their better natures and do the right thing.
00:56:38.720And remember that this is a constitutional republic, but I don't think so.
00:56:44.020And, and I've got experience, I've got experience.
00:56:49.900And when we look at what has befallen this president, here is a president who was attacked by his political opponent in a presidential election,
00:57:00.520using the good offices of the FBI, the Justice Department, an MI6 former agent,
00:57:10.500all sorts of left-wing activists in the permanent bureaucracy in the deep state, all conspiring to help defeat a Republican candidate so that they didn't have to worry about the election in November.
00:57:28.640And then, horror of horrors to those folks, that candidate managed to, because of the force of his personality and his intelligence,
00:57:40.260he was able to connect with the American people and get elected.
00:57:49.640And what we've witnessed now, for six years, we're actually entering a seventh year, is a president has been persecuted by the United States government,
00:58:04.740by state governments, by corporate America, Wall Street, which, by the way, they ended up more aligned with communist China
00:58:16.060than they did the president of the United States when he was in office.
00:58:46.080Yeah, that's definitely going to be his approach moving forward.
00:58:48.840I know, you know, pre-presidency, that would have been his approach.
00:58:53.960You know, he was busy running a country and focusing on that for four years.
00:58:58.760And this is really the beginning of the wave of him stepping up and taking care of business and those that attack him unwillingly and think they can say what they want to say and make up stories about himself, his family.
00:59:41.380She said the only way to get Donald Trump is to keep suing him.
00:59:45.880I believe I don't want to misstate the name, but she she said that.
00:59:50.480And it's jarring to me that that's what people's beliefs are.
00:59:54.540And they use the left wing media as an arm of the judicial system to carry out the fake agenda of painting him like a horrible, racist, malicious person.
01:00:09.840History will serve Donald Trump very well.
01:00:11.720I always tell him that, you know, history is going to serve him so well.
01:00:29.280As I listen to you, I think that you have a worldly view as an attorney.
01:00:36.700But I also sense that you never would have believed before you started representing the president that the corruption was this widespread, this pernicious, and this committed to to the politics of personal destruction.
01:00:58.280Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.
01:01:00.180I never I never would have believed it.
01:01:03.080But it's unfortunate that my eyes have been open to this corruption, honestly.
01:01:08.500But at the same time, I find myself fortunate that I am in a position to try at least to wake up most Americans to see what's going on and filing complaints and laying it out in a clear manner.
01:01:20.220I really try with my team to state it in a clear, concise way so that you can grasp it.
01:01:26.460It's not legal jargon, you know, embedded in statutes.
01:01:31.520We try and make the beginning of our complaints very clear and read like a documentary so that you can understand.
01:01:58.200It is, and I'm wondering now, you know, there's a common element in all of this persecution.
01:02:09.080In every instance, I think that's the case, almost every instance, certainly amongst the principles in this conspiracy, this plot to overthrow and to destroy the president.
01:02:24.680What is wrong with our legal system that we can't permit attorneys, quote unquote, to persecute the president of the United States without any accountability, without any constraint whatsoever?
01:02:43.540Because what they're doing may not be a crime, but it is criminal.
01:02:51.740And there is no leadership, no decency in this country, in any position of leadership that compels anyone to say what we are permitting to be done to President Donald Trump is immoral.
01:03:09.080It's evil, it's evil, it's evil, and it should be stopped.
01:03:35.840But the problem is, Lou, that you have lawyers who are, as you said, predominantly left-wing liberal mindset being governed by ethics committees that are also lawyers that are predominantly left-wing, you know, mindset.
01:04:38.560All I can say is I'm doing my small part, right?
01:04:41.020I think that for those that have the grit to bear what will come to you if you do do your small part and stand up as a conservative, as an ethical attorney and say this is absolutely unacceptable to my profession.
01:04:57.940And when I took the oath that I took, I swore to abide by the rules and look at the rules and say that there is a difference between a professional, a doctor, an accountant, a lawyer.
01:05:12.300And the ethics that we swore by, and if there aren't lawyers like myself who are going to point out, no matter whether they're Hillary Clinton, no matter if it's James Comey, you have to be able to stand up and say this is wrong.
01:05:40.680And I think that's something we've already done, frankly.
01:05:44.640Yeah, I think the American people do know the truth, at least most of them.
01:05:49.040I do think that as we watch in New York, the Attorney General, Letitia James, going after President Trump, swearing that she's going to get him before she's even running for the job to get elected.
01:06:09.900It's the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, going after him, waving one page of a tax statement on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, and finding out it didn't mean anything.
01:06:29.680And going after his tax forms, as if that's going to convey something.
01:07:03.400They're not only in charge of the court system, the attorneys, the ABA, they're in charge of the law schools, for crying out loud, that produce the attorneys.
01:07:34.180Like I said, we have a lot of proof already, thanks to Durham's investigation.
01:07:38.980And then the, you know, just settling the FEC complaint that has been going on for three years that most people didn't even realize existed.
01:08:03.040You know, I think it's a, it's a strong case and I wouldn't take it if I didn't think we were going to win.
01:08:11.320So, you know, I, I hope, I hope we do.
01:08:14.340And, and like you said, unfortunately, a lot of that has to do with the judges.
01:08:17.880I don't know if you saw, we did have the magistrate judge recused herself from this case already.
01:08:25.240And I know the current judge that's been appointed on this case is actually a Clinton appointee.
01:08:30.320So we'll see what kind of shake down we get on that.
01:08:34.380But, you know, you hope as an attorney that there are a few ethical judges left on the bench.
01:08:41.680Now, as you say, going into the legal system and, and you're, you know, part of your, the result, of course, is for the, the public's right to know to be satisfied, to know what happened, to lay the truth before them.
01:08:56.760But that legal system, we spend a lot of money on what is a shabby contraption.
01:09:18.040You know, it's, it's a shoddy, shoddy system.
01:09:21.420You know, there's nothing 21st, there's nothing 21st century about it.
01:09:28.140And, and now with January 6th, my God, that's a, that's a Soviet era court that has been convened by the Speaker of the House of Representatives.
01:09:40.040And the Republicans have sat on their hands and looked, you know, blind, deaf, and mute as, as they watched, again, an attack on citizens, private citizens, as if they were in Soviet, Soviet era, Russia.
01:10:27.140The one blessing is I haven't, I haven't had to spend much time with them.
01:10:32.640Well, I have to tell you, that is a blessing.
01:10:35.200I've seen what it does to some of the folks who do.
01:10:38.280It's, it's a sad, sad commentary on our country.
01:10:41.540And the, the desperate need in this country right now for Donald Trump in the Oval Office makes all of this, the more repugnant and, and everything that you're doing, all the more important to lay the groundwork for 2024.
01:11:00.140I want to, I want to conclude by asking really this, the, the question about suing outlets, you can't sue the Manhattan DA's office.
01:11:14.300I guess you can't sue the attorney general's office, but as you go about righting these wrongs, you said at the outset, it might be years.
01:11:25.040Uh, is there any excuse for it taking that long legally?
01:11:31.080The court system in New York admittedly has been slow, but always, I mean, it's always been a little bit behind the eight ball when it comes to speed and moving things along.
01:11:42.480Then COVID happened, uh, shut down the court system, right?
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