The Great America Show - SEAN DAVIS： BIDEN’S GAFFE REVEALS HIS IDIOTIC PLOT TO OVERTHROW PUTIN

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody and welcome to the Great America Show, dedicated to the proposition that truth, justice, and the American way are essential qualities of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:00:13.900 The Ukrainians claim they've liberated the Kyiv region and now control the city, its outskirts, and surrounding areas.

00:00:21.380 While Russia says it's de-escalating in the Kyiv region and pivoting its forces to eastern Ukraine and the Donbass region, which includes the Russian-recognized republics of Luhansk and Donetsk.

00:00:35.420 And it appears the strategy is aimed at an east-west partition of Ukraine.

00:00:40.960 And reportedly, Russian President Vladimir Putin is insisting his military deliver him dominion over the Donbass region by early next month.

00:00:52.700 Meanwhile, President Vladimir Zelensky declares that Ukraine will never concede Crimea or any other Ukrainian territory,

00:01:02.080 and Ukrainians will accept only defeat of the Russians who've invaded his nation. 0.62

00:01:07.520 Zelensky also demanded that Western powers send him heavy weaponry and aircraft to carry on the fight against Russia,

00:01:17.380 a fight that he seems to think he's winning.

00:01:21.020 The President of the European Parliament saying the people of Europe are standing with Ukraine,

00:01:26.100 and despite Vladimir Putin's warnings, President Roberta Metzola said Europe will support Ukraine joining the European Union.

00:01:36.100 President Biden doesn't have enough challenges and threats to contend with,

00:01:41.060 with war in Eastern Europe and continued nuclear threats by Putin,

00:01:45.580 and at home, inflation racing to just under hyperinflation levels and the prospect of a slowing economy.

00:01:53.660 Biden is now pushing $5.8 trillion in his spending plan, which has no chance of passage,

00:02:01.040 even with this rhino-laden House and Senate voting on it. 0.95

00:02:05.380 Biden ended the Trump-era emergency rule to expel quickly illegal immigrants and refugees to Mexico or their home countries,

00:02:14.680 all of this despite more than 2 million illegal immigrants who flooded into the United States in Biden's first year in office.

00:02:23.920 And Biden's approval numbers continue to fall, and then fall some more,

00:02:28.000 while the country is more divided than ever under his presidency.

00:02:32.460 Today, we're joined by Sean Davis.

00:02:35.580 Sean is the CEO and co-founder of the ever-more essential read, The Federalist.

00:02:41.480 Sean, it's great to have you with us here on The Great America Show.

00:02:45.320 I want to start out with a Biden administration that looks to be in more than its usual level of trouble.

00:02:53.180 Almost in any quarter you turn, the Biden administration is flagging, it is lagging, and in serious political trouble.

00:03:04.480 Your thoughts?

00:03:05.420 Well, thank you for having me, Lou.

00:03:06.820 I think you're correct.

00:03:08.380 I have been surprised, not by what the Biden administration has done, 0.98

00:03:14.200 because I fully expected them to do all the dumb things they're doing. 0.55

00:03:18.200 I have been surprised by how quickly things have fallen apart. 0.96

00:03:22.180 You look at the economy, you look at inflation, you look at gas prices, you look at our reduced standing in the world.

00:03:28.500 These are all things that I would have very much expected to have occurred by the end of his first term.

00:03:33.840 I did not expect things to go this bad this quickly.

00:03:38.880 I mean, we're only 14 months into this thing, and the people I talk to a lot, not in D.C., not New York,

00:03:46.680 but regular people doing normal things that keep the country running around the country,

00:03:51.840 they all say the same things, is we didn't expect it to get this bad so quickly.

00:03:57.040 One of the barometers I follow is Chuck Schumer.

00:04:00.140 When everything's going great for the Democratic Party or for him personally,

00:04:05.560 you can't keep him away from a camera or a reporter.

00:04:10.100 He is almost invisible at this point and has been for some time,

00:04:15.940 rarely raising his head and maintaining the lowest profile I've seen from him,

00:04:22.380 I think perhaps in his career.

00:04:26.000 Your reaction to what's happened to Mr. Schumer and to Ms. Pelosi?

00:04:33.180 So when I worked on Capitol Hill, gosh, 15 years ago, I worked for Tom Coburn,

00:04:38.280 and Tom Coburn was involved in everything, which meant his staff were involved in everything.

00:04:43.260 And the joke on the Hill around that time was that the most dangerous place in Washington

00:04:48.660 was between Chuck Schumer and a TV camera.

00:04:51.040 So he has a very well-earned reputation for being a real camera hog and constantly wanting attention.

00:04:58.940 And you're totally right that he's nowhere to be seen.

00:05:02.200 Now, part of that could just be that Chuck Schumer is not the face of the party,

00:05:08.460 and he's not the face of the opposition.

00:05:09.920 So when I was on the Hill, the Republicans had power,

00:05:15.500 and so your true opposition was probably the Democrat minority leader or top Democrat in the Senate.

00:05:22.480 But now with Joe Biden being the head of the party as the president,

00:05:26.340 that could be one explanation.

00:05:28.480 But I tend to side with yours, which is that he's not on TV,

00:05:33.580 because there's nothing to be crowing about on TV right now,

00:05:35.800 because so many things are unraveling for the Democrats.

00:05:40.600 Unraveling for the country as well, whether it be Ukraine.

00:05:45.340 And what I believe President Biden has managed to do with those five major mistakes that he made,

00:05:52.480 misstatements, whatever you would like to call them,

00:05:55.100 but they were statements from the president of the United States,

00:05:58.560 not personal statements as Jen Psaki would like to have us believe,

00:06:04.680 speaking as an individual.

00:06:06.660 He didn't travel all the way to Poland and to Belgium to make personal statements.

00:06:13.400 It's stunning what they're doing.

00:06:15.560 And the reality is that he is not responding well,

00:06:20.440 and the staff is not responding well when he does make mistakes,

00:06:24.180 as all administrations do.

00:06:25.700 Simply acknowledge them, correct them, and move on is the smartest path every time.

00:06:32.160 He can't do that.

00:06:33.960 It's almost as though his DNA insists upon him first lying,

00:06:38.380 saying absolutely baldly to the press that what you just said is not true,

00:06:45.880 and I never said such a thing.

00:06:49.460 There's a video record, an audio record of everything.

00:06:52.800 It's really a pig-headed approach that is costing the Democratic Party,

00:06:58.980 and I think will cost them dearly in November.

00:07:01.780 Well, it's interesting.

00:07:02.860 I think that's taken a lot of people by surprise.

00:07:06.100 They were led to believe that he was just good old, good-natured, kind of quirky, fun Uncle Joe.

00:07:13.140 But, you know, having followed this guy for quite a while, having seen his tenure in the Senate,

00:07:19.060 his many previous presidential runs, this is who Joe Biden has always been. 1.00

00:07:23.980 He's always been a jerk. 1.00

00:07:25.380 He's always been a loudmouth. 1.00

00:07:26.980 He's always been a know-nothing, and he's never, ever had any interest in ever admitting being wrong about anything, ever.

00:07:33.500 So I guess in that regard, that just makes him kind of a typical politician.

00:07:37.080 But I'll tell you, I was actually really thankful for what he said when he said, you know,

00:07:43.340 good grief, this guy can't be allowed to remain in power,

00:07:46.040 because Joe Biden said out loud the thing that a lot of us knew his administration was doing, 0.99

00:07:52.180 which is using Ukraine in some sort of idiotic ploy to enact regime change in Russia and overthrow Putin. 0.96

00:08:01.100 Now, they've been dishonest about it for years, but Ukraine has been the playground of these neoliberal interventionists for more than a decade. 0.99

00:08:09.780 It's been a money-laundering playground.

00:08:11.840 It's been an influence-peddling playground.

00:08:14.200 Ukraine is essential to the graft and grift of so many people of the neoliberal foreign policy interventionist class, 0.89

00:08:22.360 and they have been pretending throughout this whole battle there that, oh, no, this is just about the Ukrainian people being free.

00:08:29.000 This is just about, you know, making sure that this sovereign nation isn't attacked.

00:08:34.780 Now, that may be part of it, but that was never their main goal.

00:08:37.620 And the real gaffe that Joe Biden made when he said that was he made clear to everyone abundantly in his own words,

00:08:43.840 from his own mouth, what his administration's actual goals were there.

00:08:47.540 And it's not peace, and it's not stability.

00:08:49.900 And when you say neoliberal, I immediately think of a triad that is Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and George Soros.

00:09:01.260 Are those the names that you were thinking of when you said that?

00:09:05.120 You almost had me.

00:09:06.500 I was actually thinking Hillary and George Bush, kind of this idea in the foreign policy movement

00:09:14.460 that if just America shows enough power in the world and shows enough military might,

00:09:19.700 whether it's in Afghanistan or Libya or Syria or Afghanistan or apparently now Russia,

00:09:24.620 we can just bring enough military might.

00:09:26.340 We can turn every country that's backwards into a flourishing, peaceful, stable, Western-style civil democracy.

00:09:34.280 So when I'm talking about this neoliberal interventionist caucus, that's who I'm talking about.

00:09:38.900 And I think they're all high on their own supply, having watched the things they've done over the last 20 years.

00:09:44.900 It's obvious they have no clue what they're doing, and yet reality is no barrier to their plans.

00:09:51.340 No, it hasn't been for some time, as you point out.

00:09:54.240 The reason Obama and Soros and Clinton come together for me is the energetic involvement of George Soros in Ukraine,

00:10:05.660 the energetic involvement of the Clinton Foundation in Ukraine, and the fundraising in Ukraine,

00:10:15.520 the corruption that is rampant throughout that country, and I say is in the present tense because it is and has been for some time.

00:10:26.420 But it is clear that Putin recognized something that certainly the national media either didn't recognize or didn't want to acknowledge,

00:10:36.180 and that is that the United States was messing around with a garden at their footsteps,

00:10:43.300 and they're not pleased about it, hence the devastation, destruction, and death that they've rained down on Ukraine. 0.53

00:10:51.060 This is a very complicated issue, but it looks like it has a simple foundation.

00:10:58.140 The United States, in point of fact, was supporting laboratory research, undefined, in Ukraine.

00:11:05.700 For what reason? For what purpose?

00:11:07.840 And also was playing very loose with the NATO charter, which is a defensive alliance, not an offensive alliance,

00:11:16.520 and there's just far too much smoke and fire on the part of NATO and encroaching on the buffer zone,

00:11:24.920 at least as Putin recognized it, in the eastern part of Europe for his Russia.

00:11:34.520 Your thoughts?

00:11:36.880 Right.

00:11:37.120 So what I find so frustrating in watching in the media is so many people are either rah-rah, let's do war,

00:11:45.620 America best, bomb the bad guys, we're going to win.

00:11:48.600 And then the other extreme is no war, nothing, no involvement whatsoever.

00:11:53.380 And when I look at the situation, when I really look at any negotiation,

00:11:57.460 whether it's between people or businesses or countries, I want to know what each side is wanting.

00:12:02.400 And our media has been so derelict in how it reports on this, because if you look at Putin,

00:12:10.400 and this is not to rationalize what he's doing or to make excuses for it, but the man has a reason for doing things.

00:12:17.480 And over the past decade, it's become clear that for him, NATO encroachment on Ukraine is a non-starter,

00:12:23.840 and the reason for that is geographical.

00:12:25.340 You look at where Russia has its ports and its access to the Mediterranean,

00:12:30.680 and it's through the Sea of Azov, which is on the eastern border of Ukraine and Russia,

00:12:35.580 and it's through the Black Sea.

00:12:37.260 Now, when Putin took Georgia, that was the reason.

00:12:41.180 When he took Crimea, that was the reason. 0.95

00:12:43.600 Because if it ends up that Georgia or Ukraine, along with Turkey, end up in NATO,

00:12:49.660 suddenly that chokes off all of Russia's access to the Black Sea and to the Mediterranean,

00:12:53.780 which is clearly a non-starter for them.

00:12:56.520 And so this idea that we were going to get Ukraine and NATO,

00:12:59.520 which nobody in the American government actually took seriously,

00:13:02.140 it was always this thing we dangled out, like, oh, better watch it, Putin, or we'll let him in NATO.

00:13:07.200 Everyone knew, at least on this side, that that wasn't going to happen.

00:13:11.040 But what that did was it disincentivized Ukraine to kind of realize Russia's on our border,

00:13:17.360 the bear's next door, we're going to have to figure out how to live with this menace,

00:13:21.620 and we're not going to have NATO come to save us.

00:13:24.180 But all that NATO talk led people like Zelensky and the Ukrainian government

00:13:27.900 into thinking that the whole cavalry was going to ride to their rescue,

00:13:31.360 which is how you end up with this situation there now,

00:13:34.180 which is horrific war and destruction,

00:13:37.080 where the best thing would be a very fast negotiated settlement.

00:13:41.680 Ukraine's not going anywhere.

00:13:43.160 Russia's not going anywhere.

00:13:44.500 They're going to have to settle this thing.

00:13:46.080 And so much of the U.S. media and foreign policy consensus is not focused on getting a settlement,

00:13:51.380 but on using Ukraine and potentially perpetual war as a means of overthrowing Putin,

00:13:56.640 which is absolute folly and will result in so much unnecessary, needless death.

00:14:01.580 And no clearer example of the propensity that you're talking about, 1.00

00:14:08.360 the personification of that propensity, than the moronic Mitt Romney. 0.99

00:14:15.420 He just glibly saying, we'll put up a no-fly zone and the devil take the hindmost. 0.97

00:14:23.360 I haven't seen such eagerness on the part of a senator since, frankly, John McCain to go to war.

00:14:30.380 Uh, Lindsey Graham is running a close second, but there you have it. 1.00

00:14:35.660 I, I, I, I am stunned.

00:14:37.920 Forty Republican senators bang at the moon and writing a letter demanding,

00:14:44.740 effectively, war, that no-fly zone.

00:14:47.420 Your thoughts.

00:14:48.920 Right, and a no-fly zone is itself a declaration of war.

00:14:52.080 It is no different than a shipping boycott, uh, cutting off ocean lanes for commerce,

00:14:57.280 because how does one enforce a no-fly zone?

00:14:59.740 You don't just declare it and people stop flying there.

00:15:02.440 You enforce it by shooting down airplanes that aren't supposed to be in it.

00:15:06.600 So what is the natural result from the U.S. or NATO declaring a no-fly zone over Ukraine?

00:15:12.300 It means you are ready and willing and able to shoot down aircraft of a major global nuclear power. 0.98

00:15:19.820 That is idiocy on stilts, and I kind of think it takes someone with so little familiarity with the cost of war, 0.99

00:15:28.780 with what it does to people's bodies, with what it does to their souls. 0.99

00:15:32.260 After all, this is Mitt Romney, a man who I'm not sure anyone in his family serves, said his, uh, his sons,

00:15:39.240 none of whom served in the military, really serves their country by working on his campaigns and his political causes.

00:15:44.960 So this gives you an idea of how divorced this man is from the cost and sacrifices of war.

00:15:50.700 And I just find it, having watched Iraq, having watched Afghanistan, having friends have their lives altered there, 0.60

00:15:58.200 because none of those people, even if they come back, is whole in their flesh.

00:16:03.080 They're different people when they come back.

00:16:04.820 They bear scars to people that don't see.

00:16:07.100 And people in power in this country who don't really pay any attention or any consideration to that cost absolutely disgusts me,

00:16:14.380 because they treat war like it's a game, they treat it like it's the Red Sox for the Yankees, and I quite honestly have had enough of them.

00:16:22.800 You and me both, and I've had enough of the corporate media that goes along with this as if it's just fine.

00:16:28.860 It's simply a debate between elites who are given their space in the public consciousness, and nothing should violate that space, certainly facts.

00:16:38.600 I am so appalled with the Republicans, 40 Republican senators.

00:16:45.100 If I were the Democratic president of this country, think about a far-fetched proposition here,

00:16:53.520 I would hammer the Republican Party bloody on it, and I think you could count another 20 points on Biden's approval numbers,

00:17:03.020 which just might save an election. 0.99

00:17:04.680 These are fools, and they think they're playing safe by demanding war. 0.99

00:17:10.000 And what it really reveals is Biden wants war, too, because there's no other explanation. 1.00

00:17:16.840 And so does the cabal that runs Biden Incorporated.

00:17:21.400 Your thoughts?

00:17:22.940 Right, and it's this under-remarked-upon dynamic, I think, especially on the right, but also on the left.

00:17:28.300 The reason Donald Trump was elected in 2016, in large part, wasn't just his populism and a general disgust with the political establishment.

00:17:36.900 He was elected in large part because of his views on foreign policy.

00:17:40.740 The American people had grown sick and tired of aimless wars, even if they may have been conceived with good intentions,

00:17:47.800 being poorly prosecuted, costing trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives and limbs of Americans.

00:17:53.400 It's the same reason that Barack Obama was elected.

00:17:55.520 He was elected because of the Bush administration's failures in Iraq, either whether you want to blame going there in the first place or mishandling it when we were there.

00:18:04.220 But unfortunately, so much of the media is very much part of this neoliberal interventionist uniparty war.

00:18:12.160 They have an ideological investment in it.

00:18:14.800 There's something they just enjoy about saying, well, if you're not in favor of this,

00:18:20.020 it must be because you don't love this country or you don't love the Ukrainians or something.

00:18:23.820 There's just something almost pathological about it.

00:18:26.600 But let's be honest, war is great for ratings.

00:18:28.720 Good for TV.

00:18:29.640 It's good for pundits.

00:18:30.580 It's good for magazines.

00:18:32.020 And it creates terrible incentives for people in Washington who are often far more connected to the media there than they are to their own constituents.

00:18:40.260 And I think it's how you end up with a party in Washington on both sides that is utterly divorced from the desires of its base.

00:18:49.080 I don't think the Democrat base has any interest in going and starting a whole bunch of wars.

00:18:53.040 And I know the Republican Party certainly doesn't.

00:18:55.360 And yet we seem to be left with this uniparty in Washington that is just eager and willing to go off to any new war that Lindsey Graham sets its sights on. 0.88

00:19:04.240 Yeah, I, this uniparty that you described is a group of elites.

00:19:09.800 It's the wealthy, the donor class in both political parties.

00:19:14.900 In the case of the Republican Party, Donald Trump succeeded in creating a new foundation for the Republican Party, in my judgment.

00:19:23.680 And I'd like to hear your thinking on this, but certainly working men and women, their families, small business people, the so-called forgotten American.

00:19:35.040 And there's an absolutely wide open, everybody take a look, breach between the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable and the Republican Party, whether it be on Capitol Hill or whether it be in fundraising and the RNC.

00:19:52.280 It's a different, different moment and a great moment, I believe, for an opportunistic and energized Republican Party.

00:20:01.740 Yeah, there's very much a realignment going on among voters.

00:20:06.780 I think back to the early 2000s where Republicans were the party of big business, their party of tax cuts.

00:20:13.840 They were initially the party of small spending.

00:20:16.240 That's gone the way of the dodo.

00:20:18.620 The Democrats were the party that was very skeptical of so-called free trade.

00:20:23.360 They were very in favor of unions.

00:20:25.100 They were the blue-collar party.

00:20:26.980 And it's a wildly different scene now.

00:20:29.160 I think the Democrat Party has become the party of rich white elites, of the wokes, of the big corporations, of the business interests. 0.60

00:20:36.380 And I think it's the blue-collar, the people who are skeptical of free trade who are now finding themselves on the right.

00:20:44.180 And I don't know whether Donald Trump engineered that or whether Donald Trump saw that, and that he saw that as his opportunity.

00:20:53.000 It's sometimes kind of hard to tell.

00:20:54.720 But it is a wildly different scene now for both parties and both their bases than it was, you know, five or 10 or 20 years ago.

00:21:03.500 Yes, I don't think it was in the least intuitive.

00:21:06.940 I don't think it was just happenstance or serendipity.

00:21:11.540 Because if you go back throughout his campaign, he is appealing to working men and women.

00:21:16.940 He's talking about the forgotten American.

00:21:19.060 He is talking about, from the very beginning, a humble foreign policy.

00:21:27.040 He takes on the Bush family for a purpose.

00:21:30.640 And that was, they were emblematic of the, as you're describing it, the neoliberal investment in foreign wars, preferably with a country of approximately a 30 billion population, and a Stone Age military that could be easily swatted.

00:21:48.720 Those, you know, I think it's an apt description of certainly Iraq. 0.95

00:21:52.540 It's certainly an apt description of Afghanistan and wherever else we put our troops, all 100-plus countries in which we suddenly had troops.

00:22:03.320 It's now being re-engineered by this president, you know, Robinette Biden, is really quite something.

00:22:14.740 Because without intellect, without knowledge, he is pursuing a foreign policy.

00:22:21.240 And God help us all.

00:22:23.460 Right. 0.99

00:22:23.720 And with Biden, you almost have to set aside the ideological kind of use of foreign policy and look just at the blundering, duttering idiocy that his administration is. 0.98

00:22:35.860 There's a reason Putin didn't try what he did with Ukraine when Donald Trump was in office. 0.99

00:22:40.520 And I think it's because so many leaders thought Trump was insane, and if they so much as stepped out of line, he'd nuke him.

00:22:47.660 And there's a certain genius to that.

00:22:49.720 And I'm not sure there are many politicians or many leaders who could have pulled that off the way Trump did just because of his persona.

00:22:57.200 But when you look at the history of foreign policy in the U.S., I think Trump really did return to America's kind of Jacksonian roots where we want to be left alone.

00:23:10.440 We don't want to mess with you.

00:23:11.680 But if you mess with us, we're going to end it.

00:23:14.140 And I think that departure started really with George W. Bush, with his presidency.

00:23:19.640 Recall that he ran in 2000.

00:23:22.400 He sat in those debates with Al Gore and promised that America wasn't going to do nation building because the people were so upset by what they had seen in Eastern Europe and Serbia and all that that Bill Clinton was doing with what had happened in Somalia.

00:23:35.760 And Bush came in there and said, yeah, I get it, no new nation building. 0.97

00:23:39.060 And then within nine months, he had completely changed his view and decided that in order to beat terrorists who we let into our country through a garbage immigration system, we just had to go to war with them all around the world, hell or high water and the cost be damned.

00:23:53.480 I think we can all look back on that now and acknowledge it was a failure, regardless of where we may have been at the time, whether we supported Iraq or Afghanistan. 0.98

00:24:02.320 Those options clearly failed and they cost us greatly and they gave us what we have now, which is a doddering old fool in the White House and a government that that leaders across the world simply don't take seriously. 0.94

00:24:16.300 I mean, we lost a war to a bunch of inbred seventh century, seventh century mountain goat herders in Afghanistan that was supposed to be impossible. 1.00

00:24:25.380 And yet it happened because we had a government and a military and political leadership who were so unfocused.

00:24:31.780 And and we wonder why Putin rolls into Ukraine. We wonder why Xi Jinping is newly assertive.

00:24:38.360 Of course, they're doing this because no not only are we no longer respected, we're not feared either.

00:24:43.680 And that is a really, really bad spot to be in for any country, let alone the United States.

00:24:49.160 You know, from this, spins out a number of issues and you as entrepreneur, businessman, as well as journalist and running a terrific editorial outlet.

00:25:01.580 But there is also within the beltway, this view that they that there is has to be an acceptance.

00:25:11.220 As you mentioned, Trump's persona, Trump's taking advantage of the fact that he was unpredictable and might be rash even.

00:25:21.760 But in fact, everything from the beginning showed a man who was trying to bring our troops home, a man who was trying to balance trade and not squander more wealth through the through the external debt that results from trade deficits.

00:25:40.760 He was a man who wanted people to have a tax cut because government certainly was offering no premium for the vast trillions of dollars in taxes that they receive every year.

00:25:54.480 It's it's a sort of stunning myth that was generated by the media itself, the elite corporate media, and then traded on by the rest of the elite media, creating a separate reality of perception.

00:26:10.760 And by that, I mean, a perception in the public consciousness that had nothing to do with the reality of the man, his purpose or his policies.

00:26:21.680 Do you disagree?

00:26:23.240 Oh, no, I don't disagree at all.

00:26:24.500 I actually think that the corrupt corporate media in this country are the single biggest threat to American liberty, to American freedom, to American prosperity, because they have shown us clearly over the last five years,

00:26:37.460 whether it's big tech, whether it's CNN or Washington Post or New York Times, they have shown us they will do anything, they will say anything to maintain power.

00:26:47.620 They don't care if it's false.

00:26:48.920 They don't care if they're lies. 0.89

00:26:50.120 They don't care if it's nonsense.

00:26:51.340 Just just look at the whole Russian collusion hoax where they peddled a dossier they all knew was a bunch of nonsensical lies, pushed it for years to overthrow a president who was a threat to their own power.

00:27:01.360 Look what they did during the 2020 election.

00:27:04.900 All the things that they had said and alleged about the Trump family, Donald Trump himself, his sons, is actually true of the Biden family.

00:27:13.460 Right.

00:27:13.900 You know, when you look at Hunter, when you look at Joe using his family, using his name and his access to make money.

00:27:21.220 And so how did the media respond when those facts started coming out, when Hunter Biden's laptop confirmed all the money he was taking from Chinese oligarchs, from Ukrainian oligarchs?

00:27:33.500 They shut the story down.

00:27:35.160 They claimed it was false.

00:27:36.500 They banned you if you shared it.

00:27:38.360 And that's what we're dealing with now.

00:27:40.380 And I honestly don't know how we continue in this country with a media that is so hostile to reality, so hostile to truth, and so willing to use its power to shut down and destroy anyone who says something so simple as boys and girls are different.

00:27:56.880 They are a threat to this country.

00:27:58.800 And until they're dealt with, until they're taken care of, I don't know how we continue as a country.

00:28:03.580 Yeah, I have the same concerns, and I believe they run just as deep as your own.

00:28:12.920 And I can't offer an optimistic statement at this point, but I can say this.

00:28:16.660 If those who are not corporate media outlets will repair to a standard of truth, that is, deal with the reality, do not accept the corporate outlet view of the manufactured optics of reality that they like to spin up every day, and take on the reality.

00:28:41.960 To me, it's that direct, that simple, and that, of course, hard to execute.

00:28:49.160 Because we have so many failures, it's time for some success.

00:28:53.060 And one of the things, the least, it seems to me, that we could do is each of us absolutely commit ourselves to truth and not go along with this nonsense that truth has three or four different sides.

00:29:06.140 Truth is truth, and it's inherent upon our journalistic operations, that is, independent of corporate ownership, to really go there and stay there and fight like hell.

00:29:19.280 Don't you think?

00:29:20.060 Amen.

00:29:21.860 So I wanted to ask one question that's obvious, I suppose, here, and I don't see anybody really dealing with it in the Republican Party or in the media.

00:29:32.180 Why not? 0.99

00:29:35.080 Why has this White House refused a cognitive test for the fellow you described as a doddering old fool? 0.97

00:29:43.240 By the way, I will be a signatory on that description, if you like. 0.96

00:29:48.560 Why is it so difficult for him to say yes to that?

00:29:52.280 Donald Trump turned around and took a cognitive test almost immediately when the Democrats wanted that for a talking point.

00:29:59.960 We all know why they won't.

00:30:01.520 I mean, recall that if Trump was walking up the stairs and paused for a second, they said, oh, he's crazy, he's not physically or mentally stable, we've got to do the 25th Amendment, or if he said, you know, good morning at 12.01 p.m., oh, he doesn't even know what time it is, this guy's crazy, we've got to get him out of there.

00:30:18.220 There's a reason they're not giving Joe Biden a cognitive test. 0.59

00:30:22.600 We can all see it.

00:30:24.100 Everyone with a brain can see it.

00:30:26.240 Everyone has seen Joe Biden in the something like, how long has he been in the public eye and public office, like 500 years at this point?

00:30:33.420 We've all watched it.

00:30:34.520 We know what he looks like five years ago and 10 years ago.

00:30:37.320 We remember what he was like and his debates with Paul Ryan in 2012.

00:30:43.260 It is not the same man today, and there's only one explanation for it, and it's either dementia, senility, or severe cognitive decline.

00:30:50.080 We all see it.

00:30:51.300 There's no papering over it.

00:30:52.720 So, of course, the people in the White House who control him, who are actually calling the shots, are not about to go put him under the microscope and then release the lab results.

00:31:01.860 And speaking of calling shots, do you have a sense of who is in the cabal, the steering committee of the Biden administration?

00:31:12.620 I really don't.

00:31:13.760 I can guess.

00:31:15.300 I can speculate.

00:31:16.260 They don't exactly give us conservatives at the Federalist a lot of access to the inner workings of the Biden White House.

00:31:23.620 I suspect, however, that much of it is through Susan Rice.

00:31:28.220 I think the Obamas are probably controlling a fair amount of it.

00:31:31.020 I don't think there's anyone on earth who thinks that when he had the opportunity to pick his vice president that Joe Biden went around and said, you know what, I want the person who is so unpopular, she had to drop out of the entire primary before a single vote was cast, and that's who I want by my side.

00:31:48.100 I think Kamala was picked for him after he had exceeded to it.

00:31:52.940 The deck was cleared for him in the primary.

00:31:55.060 I suspect the Obamas are behind that, and they're behind much of what's happening now, but that's just pure speculation on my part.

00:32:03.880 Well, I'm going to ask you to speculate as we conclude here on one other aspect.

00:32:09.660 William Barr comes out with a new book.

00:32:12.620 In the interviews for that book, he acknowledges what he wrote, which was that he knew Joe Biden was lying through his teeth in that final debate about his son's laptop.

00:32:25.060 And then he said he didn't want to intervene in the election of 2020, which is palpable nonsense.

00:32:34.260 But secondly, he said that that rose to the level of intervention on the part of Joe Biden when he intervened in the election by lying.

00:32:47.260 Are you stunned that a lawyer of his repute and a man of his responsibility for his tenure as attorney general is so weakly reasoned?

00:33:00.260 I think I think I'll probably disagree with you a little on that.

00:33:07.660 I think I think highly of Bill Barr.

00:33:10.760 I think he's a good man.

00:33:12.280 I'm not sure there is anyone else in the country who would have looked at the Russian collusion stuff, torn it apart, put a special prosecutor on it the way Bill Barr did.

00:33:22.740 But when you look at the things he wrote before coming in to that office, I recall he wrote a long letter to Rod Rosenstein when Sessions was still AG and but recused and Rosenstein was acting AG, laying out all of the problems with the Mueller probe, how it was inappropriate for DOJ to be involved in this and that, that it was rank political intervention.

00:33:43.940 I think Barr believed in his core that it wasn't DOJ's job to be interjecting in those types of situations.

00:33:54.240 It wasn't the AG's job to be fact checking presidential candidates, especially after what happened in 2016.

00:34:03.360 Now, I totally understand why people disagree with that, why they're frustrated.

00:34:07.540 One of the frustrating things about being a conservative is that we're always playing with one hand tied behind our back, while the other party gets everyone together and, you know, beats us up as a gang.

00:34:17.920 So I totally understand the frustration.

00:34:20.320 I feel it quite often.

00:34:22.100 But I am, I'm sympathetic to Barr's rationale.

00:34:26.480 I think he truly did believe that DOJ needed to be nonpartisan.

00:34:30.340 And that was a major reason he took that job was to clean it up.

00:34:34.120 And so I'm, I'm not quite willing to say it was an awful decision or an unprincipled decision.

00:34:39.980 I'll just say that I think he had good reasons for it.

00:34:43.160 And I also think people have good reasons for being very frustrated with how it ended.

00:34:48.860 Yeah, I accept everything you said.

00:34:51.420 I'm sure he's a fine fellow.

00:34:53.440 I'm sure he has the best of intentions, highly principled.

00:34:58.320 My problem is with his logic and with his responsibility as, as attorney general.

00:35:03.160 When he lied, when president, then vice president, former vice president Biden lied to the American people and gave shelter, gave shelter to his son.

00:35:18.700 It was an act that is without question, not about fact checking.

00:35:24.700 It is about his responsibility as attorney general, as the top law enforcement officer in the country.

00:35:30.180 I just can't imagine that he allowed the American people to be hornswoggled and lied to as a matter of quote unquote principle.

00:35:41.520 I don't see the principle, the ethic in that at all.

00:35:44.980 Help me out.

00:35:46.460 Well, I think the principle would be, they did, but it's not DOJ's.

00:35:53.320 Again, I'm not arguing my point of view here.

00:35:56.100 I'm trying to understand, like when we talked earlier about understanding, you know, what is Putin trying to get here?

00:36:02.080 What is this person trying to get here?

00:36:04.260 I think he did not view DOJ's job as going out and saying this candidate lied or that candidate lied.

00:36:10.720 And I think that's defensible.

00:36:13.260 Now, it would be one thing if Joe Biden, if they had Joe Biden dead to rights doing illegal things, they knew about it.

00:36:20.340 They knew he was selling influence and getting rich off of it and corruptly selling access.

00:36:24.580 If they had that evidence, of course you have to charge.

00:36:27.660 Now, maybe it's not, maybe it's further past the election or further before the election.

00:36:32.880 I don't know, but I feel like this was a different thing going out and saying, well, no, that candidate lied.

00:36:40.940 I just, I think it was a very difficult position he was put in by previous people in that office and in that department who had so damaged that institution.

00:36:52.700 I mean, it's hard to look at James Comey and think there has been a worse, more destructive individual to American law enforcement, to the FBI and DOJ than that guy.

00:37:03.600 And I think Barr looked at that and said, however he played, I'm going to try and do the opposite. 0.99

00:37:09.020 He did the stupid Hillary press conference. 1.00

00:37:10.920 I'm not going to do anything. 1.00

00:37:11.980 I, you know, I, I take your point of view.

00:37:15.960 I absolutely, I, I, I cannot imagine with history turning on your decision and letting a man lie to, to millions of Americans about the circumstance and the content of that laptop.

00:37:32.580 And remember, remember this, the justice department all that time had Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:37:39.120 They knew what was in it.

00:37:40.560 They knew the connections that were made.

00:37:44.000 And they had not only that, they had Anthony Weiner's laptop.

00:37:47.600 They have something that most people have even completely forgotten about.

00:37:50.700 They had all of that vast sea of information and William Barr decided not to intervene in an election.

00:37:57.340 He also decided that it was a perfect election.

00:38:01.500 That's astonishing.

00:38:03.420 I mean, absolutely astonishing, but you know what?

00:38:05.980 We always give our guests the last word and this is your opportunity, Sean.

00:38:12.620 We thank you very much for being with us here and take it away.

00:38:16.180 Well, Lou, it is always such a pleasure to be on here.

00:38:18.440 I love talking with you.

00:38:19.500 I love that we can have extended conversations and disagreements.

00:38:23.020 So thank you for having me on.

00:38:24.980 It's a true privilege.

00:38:26.420 Thanks, Sean.

00:38:27.780 Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist.

00:38:30.900 And now we turn to the lawsuit that President Trump has filed against the people, the organizations and firms that he believes are responsible for what he initially called the Russian hoax.

00:38:41.900 The effort to block his candidacy to be president and then to overthrow his presidency after he was elected.

00:38:49.760 By 2020, many of us were calling that conspiracy and persecution against President Trump the biggest scandal in American history.

00:38:58.180 And our next guest is Alina Haba, President Trump's attorney who's representing the president in the multimillion dollar lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the other defendants.

00:39:11.900 Alina Haba, great to have you with us.

00:39:14.040 I'd like to begin with the timing of the president's lawsuit.

00:39:17.560 What precipitated this timing of the lawsuit's filing?

00:39:21.520 The multiple investigations, mainly the Durham investigation that has come down with some indictments, has been really chilling for the former president and his affiliates in really diving into what has taken place,

00:39:39.080 what he presumed was taking place, but now knows through Durham's research and in his latest motion, basically, where he's looking into the conflicts of interest.

00:39:52.160 It was really telling where we could see that the VIPs, as he calls them, in many of his indictments, implicate Hillary Clinton herself and the Clinton campaign, etc.

00:40:04.160 So it was time.

00:40:05.540 You know, we were kind of learning as he was.

00:40:09.160 It's a very deep dive.

00:40:11.020 The Durham investigation has been remarkable because suddenly it appeared out of nowhere, the December filings.

00:40:21.300 And we knew what had happened, but to see the special counsel, actually, after more than a year, proceed and to have actual legal action going forward,

00:40:38.760 you know, fulfilling the charge that William Barr, the attorney general, then under President Trump, had given it.

00:40:48.180 And it's very clear that this is only the beginning of the Durham investigation and the result of it in terms of legal action.

00:40:57.080 Right.

00:40:57.860 I think that what I started to see happening with Durham's investigation, the way he's building it up,

00:41:05.020 and I've spoken to numerous people that are incredibly intelligent, have been involved in the long run.

00:41:12.900 But it's very clear that what he's actually doing, the specificity of his indictments and the opinions are not overreaching.

00:41:20.480 They're not broad.

00:41:21.080 They're very specific.

00:41:22.380 And that I believe he is, in fact, building his own RICO case, where he's taking his time with each individual that he's indicting to connect the dots.

00:41:33.260 And when you look at the motions in conjunction with the indictments that he put in place, it's really clear that he can see the connection all the way to the top.

00:41:42.720 So if he would bring out these indictments, I'd read them and I could see this formation.

00:41:46.380 And then I started doing my research.

00:41:48.520 And, you know, of course, with the help of former President Trump, who lived this, lived this and has been saying it, now we have some substantiation.

00:41:55.640 Now we're starting to see that there's real evidence that what he's been saying all along was really happening and was happening in a major way.

00:42:04.060 I mean, look at the FEC just a couple of days ago.

00:42:07.640 You know, the DNC and the Clinton campaign paid fines to the FEC for exactly what this case is addressing.

00:42:14.660 Right. And in and of itself, that is another development that supports the facts that you're alleging in your lawsuit.

00:42:23.760 Right. And it also supports what everybody, quote unquote, knew that Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele, Bruce Orr, all of them.

00:42:36.960 It's a this list of names, the defendant names in your lawsuit.

00:42:40.960 Hillary Clinton, I just want to go through a few for the audience of Michael Sussman, indicted by the special counsel, John Durham, going through to Perkins Coy, the law firm for everything that the Democratic National Organization does, it seems.

00:43:01.940 Jake Sullivan, now the National Security Advisor to President Biden, John Podessa, then the campaign chairman, Orbis Business Intelligence, that the firm, I believe, that was or is a Christopher Steele's operating entity.

00:43:20.900 Rodney Jaffe, the tech executive, who apparently had access to communications at the White House itself.

00:43:32.860 James Comey, who has disappeared from public view for some time now.

00:43:39.040 I want to go through a few of those names with you to give the audience some better sense of where they are.

00:43:45.920 And let's start with right now, Perkins Coy as a defendant going after that, the probably the biggest and best known Democratic law firm in the country.

00:43:58.840 Right. Perkins Coy is effectively the DNC, right?

00:44:03.440 They're they're an arm of anything Democratic.

00:44:06.560 It's it's surprising to me as a lawyer.

00:44:10.720 This one was a tough one because I it's disappointing.

00:44:13.400 You know, we're attorneys, we have ethics.

00:44:16.300 And as you know, I have other lawsuits that involve attorneys where I believe they're really not taking their ethical obligations seriously.

00:44:24.220 So effectively what happened was they use Perkins Coy and they being the VIPs and the indictments.

00:44:30.540 You know, we can assume now it's Hillary Clinton, the Clinton campaign and those affiliated with them.

00:44:37.220 They use this law firm and use the privilege that law firms have with their clients, attorney client privilege to shield themselves from liability.

00:44:46.860 So they thought. Right.

00:44:48.340 So they said, OK, we know how to structure this.

00:44:50.840 We're going to get a law firm involved.

00:44:52.540 Our law firm is effectively an arm of us.

00:44:55.160 They help fund the DNC.

00:44:56.280 They help fund. They negotiated.

00:44:58.720 I mean, imagine they negotiated a joint fundraising agreement with the Clinton campaign and the DNC, where effectively the former Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, ran and controlled the funds of the DNC through an agreement that Perkins Coy did.

00:45:16.580 So imagine, you know, how I don't even know how they don't have a conflict, but they're representing both sides of an agreement.

00:45:24.400 And then what they do is they're going and doing operative work.

00:45:27.100 They're doing going through hiring Fusion GPS, hiring Orbis.

00:45:33.180 You know, it's going down the chain and specifically stating Mark Elias, who was a partner at Perkins Coy, general counsel for the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

00:45:41.960 He told Fusion GPS, he told them, look, there's an attorney's client privilege, and he made it clear that he was the go-between to shield the VIP so that there was privilege and nobody could communicate with each other so that he could maintain that privilege to shield them.

00:46:00.000 And Mark Elias, his hands and his brains are all over the election of 2020.

00:46:09.320 He was involved in almost every aspect of that campaign, setting up state legislators to build the absentee voting structures behind the predicate of all of that activity,

00:46:30.040 which was to deal, of course, which was to deal, of course, with COVID and all of the larger margins that were granted as a result in election law so that people would have, quote, unquote, have the ability to vote despite the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:46:51.000 Another name, Robert Mook, tell us about him.

00:46:58.240 The Elias comment that we just discussed was actually in Simpson and Fritch's book in writing, which is they bragged about it.

00:47:06.020 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:47:07.560 But going to Robert Mook, you know, he was the campaign manager for the Clinton campaign. 0.60

00:47:11.820 Him and Philip Ryan, who was the communications advisor for the Clinton campaign, they made numerous defamatory statements regarding the Trump-Russia collusion.

00:47:22.900 They basically fed the monster, right, being left-wing media, needing that speeding frenzy, for lack of a better word. 0.99

00:47:30.060 They helped push it, and being, you know, the CEO, effectively, of these campaigns, you know, along with Jake Sullivan and John Podesta, you're effectively pushing a false narrative that you know you're paying for.

00:47:46.280 You know you've hired a law firm to push.

00:47:49.340 That's their implication in this.

00:47:51.640 And that is an important construction that you've just said there.

00:47:56.280 These people knew what was going on, most of them.

00:48:04.200 They knew what the truth was.

00:48:06.080 They had organized the disinformation, which was the point of the whole thing, in order to create the grounds for, eventually, the special counsel.

00:48:17.620 It's a, it is an invidious construction, conspiracy, and effort politically that I hope has never been, I hope it's unprecedented.

00:48:32.740 It's certainly one that I've never, never seen or heard of.

00:48:36.340 But this is going to be, I would think, difficult in court to prove, though.

00:48:43.240 How difficult do you think it'll be?

00:48:45.940 And what do you see as your advantages as you go into the legal process?

00:48:51.080 Yeah, I think the difficulty here is going to be, you know, the number of attorneys that we're going to be dealing with in size, because of how many defendants there are.

00:49:07.380 But in the flip side of that, right, that cuts both ways, it's intentional.

00:49:13.100 You, you know, we have everybody in one fell swoop, because to do multiple lawsuits on the same set of facts and divide them up would actually lose the big scheme.

00:49:25.100 So it had to be done this way.

00:49:26.760 As difficult as it is, it has to be done this way.

00:49:29.620 Civil RICO is in itself, you know, a difficult claim, but the benefit that my team has here is that, like we discussed, you know, we had Mueller, we had Durham, Durham in particular, really outlines that and proves, frankly, a lot of the items that I have claimed here to be true.

00:49:51.320 And with the indictment, coupled with the FEC payment, which, you know, they did say was not indicative of, you know, they signed and wrote the check, but they said this is not an indication of our guilt.

00:50:04.360 Okay, but you did.

00:50:06.580 And, you know, at the end of the day, that helps my case.

00:50:10.420 So we did it this way.

00:50:13.060 It obviously is a tough case, given the parties and, unfortunately, some of the corruption that we've seen.

00:50:18.500 And, you know, we can only hope we get a fair judge who is going to look at this and look at the Durham indictments and look at all of this history and be able to put this together.

00:50:27.700 And we drafted the complaint in a way that I think makes it very clean and clear.

00:50:31.720 And how difficult is it going to be to proceed against, for example, former DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

00:50:39.560 She had some interesting activities going on in that period.

00:50:45.860 You know, the lost laptops, the all sorts of allegations against her and questions raised about her conduct.

00:50:57.960 But where does she where where does she stand amongst the defendants? 0.89

00:51:05.180 How important is she is what I'm asking?

00:51:07.120 I mean, she was chairperson of the DNC in the scheme of importance.

00:51:11.300 You know, I would like to say they're all important, of course.

00:51:13.760 As an attorney, I should I should say they're all important.

00:51:16.120 But they're there.

00:51:17.700 You know, she made several defamatory statements.

00:51:19.600 She continues to regarding the Trump-Russia collusion.

00:51:21.840 She pushed the narrative and she likely knew was false.

00:51:24.540 And due to her role in the DNC as chairperson during the most relevant time period, she is pretty important.

00:51:34.040 You know, she is kind of the DNC figurehead at this point when it comes to this case.

00:51:38.580 And of course, James Comey, director of the FBI, he's certainly taken on a low profile for a guy who is writing books and sitting on every television show that he could get get to.

00:51:53.320 Something is something has changed.

00:51:56.360 Yeah.

00:51:56.900 Yeah.

00:51:57.220 That tends to happen.

00:51:58.120 So, yeah, he was the director of the FBI.

00:52:01.140 Obviously, he signed three of the fights, the warrants, you know, but he knew they were based on unreliable information.

00:52:07.520 And a lot of people don't realize that it's kind of granular.

00:52:10.900 I did speak on Hannity about this the other night, but basically he had been advised by the CIA that the Clinton campaign was plotting to falsely implicate Trump as colluding with Russia.

00:52:22.820 And he withheld that pertinent information from his FISA applications, including that the Steele dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and DNC.

00:52:31.480 And that's a material, that's a material, you know, omission.

00:52:38.280 So that's where where James Comey comes in, among other things.

00:52:42.120 But, yeah.

00:52:43.680 Well, Trump supporters, obviously, the Republican Party, which is the Trump Party, are eager to see how this progresses.

00:52:52.860 Lay out for us a bit of a roadmap in the legal system as to where you expect this to go and over what period.

00:52:59.880 Sure.

00:53:00.760 This is going to be a long haul for sure, but we're not really the goal is not to get to the end of the case in this one, I have to say.

00:53:07.900 I think my goal for the former president in this situation is to get through numerous motions to dismiss, which we're going to be getting.

00:53:17.680 And, you know, they'll be based on all kinds of claims and hopefully we get through that.

00:53:25.000 And once we get through that, we will be left with the core group of defendants that we need to get through to discovery.

00:53:31.960 And that's the key.

00:53:33.660 That's kind of what is under wrap with the Durham investigation that the world cannot see.

00:53:39.020 But through our depositions, through document production, and that'll be probably in the next year or two, it's going to be voluminous.

00:53:47.400 But having all this information was really going to let us see what was going on.

00:53:53.680 The legal system itself is a left-wing enterprise.

00:53:59.000 I don't know if you would argue that, but that's my judgment.

00:54:04.300 I wouldn't argue.

00:54:05.340 Most attorneys are liberal, progressive, socialist, you name whatever they are, but they're left-wing.

00:54:13.880 Most of the judges are left-wing, irrespective of their title, Republican or Democrat.

00:54:19.960 You know, John Roberts, the chief justice, famously saying there are no Trump judges, Bush judges, or Obama or Clinton judges.

00:54:29.940 Well, they're all of those and more.

00:54:32.980 And you can almost, it's almost, well, it's an accurate guide to what they will decide.

00:54:38.560 There are exceptions to it, but it's a, my point being, it's a left-wing, there's a stacked deck here, as the president would put it.

00:54:48.640 This is a rigged deal.

00:54:50.700 The courts are anti-Republican.

00:54:53.380 They're pro-Democrat.

00:54:55.360 And this is, man, if there were ever a lawsuit that goes across all of the fault lines, left and right, liberal and conservative, Republican and Democrat, it's yours.

00:55:11.600 Right, right.

00:55:12.440 It's un-American what happens.

00:55:13.920 I think that's really what you're saying, right?

00:55:15.700 Yep, absolutely.

00:55:16.740 It's not about your, it's un-American. 0.84

00:55:18.340 And if we care at all, you know, in this, in this woke culture, if we care at all, and obviously I am a Republican, I am very conservative, but I have young children and I cannot imagine my children being raised in this world that we have created.

00:55:37.640 And I don't blame one party over another, but I, I, I think that the lack of commitment to our constitution, to the fundamentals of this country, has led us down this rabbit hole.

00:55:49.860 And I really hope that people can see this.

00:55:53.300 And I have to say, I think the media in the scheme of things is realizing they can't bash this as much as they would anything else, because nobody wants to stand for this.

00:56:02.520 You know, we don't want Watergate times a hundred ever to happen again.

00:56:05.980 And this is what this is.

00:56:08.300 So, you know, it cuts both sides.

00:56:10.260 A lot of the cases that I argue are, you know, Westfall Act, presidential immunity, things that don't really have to do with your party affiliation, but have to do with the core values of this country.

00:56:21.480 And this, this is really the mother of all of that, right?

00:56:25.520 I mean, that's, this is what this case is.

00:56:27.300 Yeah, I wish I could be as positive in my outlook on the legal system that this is a case where people will rise to their better natures and do the right thing.

00:56:38.720 And remember that this is a constitutional republic, but I don't think so.

00:56:44.020 And, and I've got experience, I've got experience.

00:56:47.500 No, I know.

00:56:48.480 Just that.

00:56:49.900 And when we look at what has befallen this president, here is a president who was attacked by his political opponent in a presidential election,

00:57:00.520 using the good offices of the FBI, the Justice Department, an MI6 former agent,

00:57:10.500 all sorts of left-wing activists in the permanent bureaucracy in the deep state, all conspiring to help defeat a Republican candidate so that they didn't have to worry about the election in November.

00:57:28.640 And then, horror of horrors to those folks, that candidate managed to, because of the force of his personality and his intelligence,

00:57:40.260 he was able to connect with the American people and get elected.

00:57:44.520 And then, did the conspiracy end?

00:57:47.220 No, it expanded.

00:57:48.420 It enlarged.

00:57:49.640 And what we've witnessed now, for six years, we're actually entering a seventh year, is a president has been persecuted by the United States government,

00:58:04.740 by state governments, by corporate America, Wall Street, which, by the way, they ended up more aligned with communist China

00:58:16.060 than they did the president of the United States when he was in office.

00:58:18.740 Right.

00:58:19.640 What this man and his family have gone through is outrageous.

00:58:24.520 And if he's going to sue somebody, I'd love where you've begun, but how broadly should his grievance and his search for redress go?

00:58:41.340 Because I think it should be expansive, if not universal.

00:58:45.140 Right.

00:58:46.080 Yeah, that's definitely going to be his approach moving forward.

00:58:48.840 I know, you know, pre-presidency, that would have been his approach.

00:58:53.960 You know, he was busy running a country and focusing on that for four years.

00:58:58.760 And this is really the beginning of the wave of him stepping up and taking care of business and those that attack him unwillingly and think they can say what they want to say and make up stories about himself, his family.

00:59:18.600 Which they continue to do.

00:59:20.600 Which they continue to do.

00:59:22.300 You know, they continue to do it.

00:59:23.940 But the only way you stop that, you know, there's there's an attorney that I often is my adversary.

00:59:29.380 And she made a comment.

00:59:32.000 I'll leave her name.

00:59:33.380 I mean, it's a Google-able.

00:59:34.760 But yeah, she made a comment that the only way to get Donald Trump is to just keep suing him. 0.59

00:59:39.220 Well, not really.

00:59:40.520 I'm sorry.

00:59:40.920 Say that again. 0.71

00:59:41.380 She said the only way to get Donald Trump is to keep suing him.

00:59:45.880 I believe I don't want to misstate the name, but she she said that.

00:59:50.480 And it's jarring to me that that's what people's beliefs are. 0.91

00:59:54.540 And they use the left wing media as an arm of the judicial system to carry out the fake agenda of painting him like a horrible, racist, malicious person. 0.89

01:00:09.840 History will serve Donald Trump very well.

01:00:11.720 I always tell him that, you know, history is going to serve him so well.

01:00:15.100 He was a great president.

01:00:16.060 And at the end of the day, you know, I'm his attorney.

01:00:18.180 I'm not his political campaign manager, but, you know, what's going on in the country today is a little frightening.

01:00:26.320 Yeah, it's a lot frightening.

01:00:29.280 As I listen to you, I think that you have a worldly view as an attorney.

01:00:36.700 But I also sense that you never would have believed before you started representing the president that the corruption was this widespread, this pernicious, and this committed to to the politics of personal destruction.

01:00:56.280 Right.

01:00:57.000 I never would have.

01:00:58.280 Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.

01:01:00.180 I never I never would have believed it.

01:01:03.080 But it's unfortunate that my eyes have been open to this corruption, honestly.

01:01:08.500 But at the same time, I find myself fortunate that I am in a position to try at least to wake up most Americans to see what's going on and filing complaints and laying it out in a clear manner.

01:01:20.220 I really try with my team to state it in a clear, concise way so that you can grasp it.

01:01:26.460 It's not legal jargon, you know, embedded in statutes.

01:01:31.520 We try and make the beginning of our complaints very clear and read like a documentary so that you can understand.

01:01:38.420 You know, there's Kash Patel, Devin Nunes.

01:01:40.400 They're great people that have they put out this documentary called Fought Against the President.

01:01:44.600 I don't know if you've seen it, but it was fantastic.

01:01:47.080 It really laid out what was based on the book by Lee Smith.

01:01:52.160 Exactly.

01:01:52.800 And then when you look at it, it's so jarring.

01:01:56.720 I mean, it really is petrifying.

01:01:58.200 It is, and I'm wondering now, you know, there's a common element in all of this persecution.

01:02:09.080 In every instance, I think that's the case, almost every instance, certainly amongst the principles in this conspiracy, this plot to overthrow and to destroy the president.

01:02:21.860 But they've all been lawyers.

01:02:24.680 What is wrong with our legal system that we can't permit attorneys, quote unquote, to persecute the president of the United States without any accountability, without any constraint whatsoever?

01:02:43.540 Because what they're doing may not be a crime, but it is criminal.

01:02:49.300 It is disgusting. 0.86

01:02:50.580 It's abhorrent. 0.86

01:02:51.740 And there is no leadership, no decency in this country, in any position of leadership that compels anyone to say what we are permitting to be done to President Donald Trump is immoral.

01:03:09.080 It's evil, it's evil, it's evil, and it should be stopped.

01:03:13.500 It's that simple.

01:03:15.180 It is.

01:03:16.300 It is.

01:03:16.760 I mean, I've never seen a president be treated this way.

01:03:20.860 What happened to the office of the presidency where you would try and arrest a president in criminal investigations?

01:03:27.380 And the idea of that is so terrible for something that's nothing.

01:03:33.420 It doesn't even exist.

01:03:34.500 It's just made up.

01:03:35.840 But the problem is, Lou, that you have lawyers who are, as you said, predominantly left-wing liberal mindset being governed by ethics committees that are also lawyers that are predominantly left-wing, you know, mindset.

01:03:54.280 So there's no governing entity here.

01:03:57.580 And then you've got the-

01:03:58.860 Are you saying that Shakespeare had it right?

01:04:03.560 I think he might have had it right.

01:04:07.740 I think he might expect.

01:04:10.420 The ABA, the American Bar Association, supposedly the standard bearer for the profession, it's rancid. 0.98

01:04:21.380 It's corrupt. 0.94

01:04:22.740 It's left-wing. 0.98

01:04:24.340 And there is no ambiguity about it.

01:04:27.220 There's no equivocation.

01:04:29.020 It's who they are.

01:04:30.760 How in the hell could it be permitted to go on?

01:04:35.480 Yeah.

01:04:36.200 I don't know.

01:04:37.320 I don't know the answer to that.

01:04:38.560 All I can say is I'm doing my small part, right?

01:04:41.020 I think that for those that have the grit to bear what will come to you if you do do your small part and stand up as a conservative, as an ethical attorney and say this is absolutely unacceptable to my profession.

01:04:56.940 It's embarrassing.

01:04:57.940 And when I took the oath that I took, I swore to abide by the rules and look at the rules and say that there is a difference between a professional, a doctor, an accountant, a lawyer.

01:05:12.300 And the ethics that we swore by, and if there aren't lawyers like myself who are going to point out, no matter whether they're Hillary Clinton, no matter if it's James Comey, you have to be able to stand up and say this is wrong.

01:05:25.060 It's not a Trump issue.

01:05:27.120 It's a country issue.

01:05:28.380 We have to do something about this.

01:05:30.260 And I, you know, Lou, you made a good point.

01:05:32.460 The cards are stacked, perhaps, but the suit is not about winning.

01:05:37.440 It's about getting the truth out.

01:05:40.680 And I think that's something we've already done, frankly.

01:05:44.640 Yeah, I think the American people do know the truth, at least most of them.

01:05:49.040 I do think that as we watch in New York, the Attorney General, Letitia James, going after President Trump, swearing that she's going to get him before she's even running for the job to get elected.

01:06:08.740 It's ignorance.

01:06:09.900 It's the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, going after him, waving one page of a tax statement on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, and finding out it didn't mean anything.

01:06:29.680 And going after his tax forms, as if that's going to convey something.

01:06:35.740 It's just, it's madness.

01:06:37.620 It's absolutely, you mentioned Trump derangement syndrome.

01:06:41.000 The reason I've always hated that expression is it's rationale for the awful behavior that we've seen by so many people.

01:06:49.120 But I think at the same time, there has to be some truth to it.

01:06:53.500 The left, it means to destroy this country.

01:06:56.860 The left means to destroy our most cherished institutions.

01:07:02.180 And they were well on the way.

01:07:03.400 They're not only in charge of the court system, the attorneys, the ABA, they're in charge of the law schools, for crying out loud, that produce the attorneys.

01:07:12.920 And no one is throttling it back.

01:07:15.240 No one's asking the fundamental questions politically.

01:07:18.340 How do you stop this madness?

01:07:20.460 And this lawsuit, as you say, I think is a part of the answer for this president to try to right the wrongs that have been done to him.

01:07:30.860 Right.

01:07:31.580 I agree with you.

01:07:32.360 I agree with you.

01:07:32.780 And I do think we're going to win.

01:07:34.180 Like I said, we have a lot of proof already, thanks to Durham's investigation.

01:07:38.980 And then the, you know, just settling the FEC complaint that has been going on for three years that most people didn't even realize existed.

01:07:49.080 Right.

01:07:50.020 The DNC and Hillary's campaign just wrote a check for failing to disclose that Perkins Coie was in fact hired to hire Fusion GPS or BIS.

01:08:02.100 We just wrote a check.

01:08:03.040 You know, I think it's a, it's a strong case and I wouldn't take it if I didn't think we were going to win.

01:08:11.320 So, you know, I, I hope, I hope we do.

01:08:14.340 And, and like you said, unfortunately, a lot of that has to do with the judges.

01:08:17.880 I don't know if you saw, we did have the magistrate judge recused herself from this case already.

01:08:25.240 And I know the current judge that's been appointed on this case is actually a Clinton appointee.

01:08:30.320 So we'll see what kind of shake down we get on that.

01:08:34.380 But, you know, you hope as an attorney that there are a few ethical judges left on the bench.

01:08:41.680 Now, as you say, going into the legal system and, and you're, you know, part of your, the result, of course, is for the, the public's right to know to be satisfied, to know what happened, to lay the truth before them.

01:08:56.760 But that legal system, we spend a lot of money on what is a shabby contraption. 0.83

01:09:02.160 The court system is indolent.

01:09:04.880 They are lazy in terms of the efficiency of trying cases and reaching results for complainants and plaintiffs.

01:09:16.060 You know, you know this to be true.

01:09:18.040 You know, it's, it's a shoddy, shoddy system.

01:09:21.420 You know, there's nothing 21st, there's nothing 21st century about it.

01:09:28.140 And, and now with January 6th, my God, that's a, that's a Soviet era court that has been convened by the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

01:09:40.040 And the Republicans have sat on their hands and looked, you know, blind, deaf, and mute as, as they watched, again, an attack on citizens, private citizens, as if they were in Soviet, Soviet era, Russia.

01:09:58.040 Right.

01:09:58.540 Again, it's part of the, and it's the, you know, the pencil neck, you know, Adam Schiff.

01:10:07.800 It's as if he is like a, like a snake in Greek pathology.

01:10:14.360 The more you, you know, cut off his head, he, he becomes, he's replicated over and over in the Congress. 0.99

01:10:23.520 It's disgusting. 1.00

01:10:24.420 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:27.140 The one blessing is I haven't, I haven't had to spend much time with them.

01:10:32.640 Well, I have to tell you, that is a blessing.

01:10:35.200 I've seen what it does to some of the folks who do.

01:10:38.280 It's, it's a sad, sad commentary on our country.

01:10:41.540 And the, the desperate need in this country right now for Donald Trump in the Oval Office makes all of this, the more repugnant and, and everything that you're doing, all the more important to lay the groundwork for 2024.

01:11:00.140 I want to, I want to conclude by asking really this, the, the question about suing outlets, you can't sue the Manhattan DA's office.

01:11:14.300 I guess you can't sue the attorney general's office, but as you go about righting these wrongs, you said at the outset, it might be years.

01:11:25.040 Uh, is there any excuse for it taking that long legally?

01:11:29.820 There's no excuse.

01:11:31.080 The court system in New York admittedly has been slow, but always, I mean, it's always been a little bit behind the eight ball when it comes to speed and moving things along.

01:11:42.480 Then COVID happened, uh, shut down the court system, right?

01:11:46.160 So we have backlogs.

01:11:48.540 We have courts that still are not having in-person conferences, trials, or on Zoom.

01:11:54.780 Um, and now, you know, there's, these are complicated cases.

01:12:00.360 We have to go through discovery with the backlog, coupled with the COVID remnants, right?

01:12:06.480 It's just a compilation of issues that's going to create quite, um, a mess in terms of timing wise.

01:12:15.700 But like I said, I think on this one in particular, you can wait for discovery and that will be relatively soon.

01:12:23.360 You know, within a year, we'll definitely be in the thick of discovery.

01:12:26.980 As long as the motions get heard.

01:12:28.540 I have some cases where the motions aren't even being heard and they've been sitting for months.

01:12:32.660 So we'll see.

01:12:34.220 We'll see, Lou.

01:12:34.900 I'm not sure.

01:12:35.600 I'm not sure, but you know, I mean, I am suing the AG and we are going after some of

01:12:40.880 these corrupt, um, entities that we want injunctive and declaratory relief from.

01:12:48.860 And they would be in New York.

01:12:51.120 They would be in New York and they're public.

01:12:54.220 So there you go.

01:12:56.840 Right.

01:12:58.860 Absolutely.

01:12:59.780 I just have to say, Elaine, it's been, it's been great talking with you.

01:13:04.120 We always give our guests the last word on this, uh, on this show.

01:13:09.600 And so I'm going to turn it over to you to, uh, to wrap us up and your concluding thoughts.

01:13:15.040 Don't under, don't underestimate Donald Trump.

01:13:17.980 That would be my last words.

01:13:20.120 Don't underestimate him or the people he chooses to represent him.

01:13:23.700 He's a smart guy and, um, he loves his country as do I.

01:13:28.560 So let's hope for, for concluding some of these lawsuits and making America great again, really

01:13:34.520 to use his own phrase.

01:13:35.580 Well, it's a, it's a serviceable phrase and one that's, uh, stood him and America in good

01:13:43.820 stead.

01:13:44.380 We thank you for being with us and we wish you all the very best of luck.

01:13:48.340 Alina Haba, the president's attorney.

01:13:51.140 Tomorrow, our guest will be Michael Gableman, the special counsel for the Wisconsin assembly,

01:13:56.600 investigating the state's handling of the 2020 presidential election.

01:14:01.040 Gableman served on the Wisconsin state Supreme court for 10 years and among the conclusions

01:14:07.120 of his special counsel investigation, private grant money constituted election bribery in

01:14:13.980 that election election bribery is a crime and Gableman called for the firing of the entire

01:14:20.320 Wisconsin election commission and its elimination special counsel, Michael Gableman takes us through

01:14:28.000 the Wisconsin election and the corruption that he discovered corruption that extends to many other

01:14:34.480 states as well.

01:14:36.080 So please be sure to join us tomorrow for the explosive details and Tuesday, April 5th, another

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The Great America Show - April 03, 2022

SEAN DAVIS： BIDEN’S GAFFE REVEALS HIS IDIOTIC PLOT TO OVERTHROW PUTIN

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