The Great America Show - SEN. PAUL SAYS VOTERS WILL WIPE OUT DEMS IN MID-TERMS

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. The Russian war on Ukraine is as vicious, brutal, and bloody as any moment

00:00:06.740 since the beginning of Putin's invasion a month ago. But now, Russian forces are facing not only

00:00:13.460 stalled advances, but a retreat in some areas after counterattacks by the Ukrainian defenders.

00:00:20.840 The Russians are pulling back from early gains in Kherson, as well as the capital of Kiev.

00:00:26.820 Now, this is The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us. And after three days in Brussels

00:00:33.440 and Poland, the White House had to clean up some of President Biden's expected gaps

00:00:39.520 and misstatements. He didn't disappoint. Biden had warned Russia that if it were to use chemical

00:00:46.480 weapons, the United States would, quote, respond in kind. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan

00:00:53.780 picked up his Biden shovel and cleaned up his mess, saying the president meant to say, quote,

00:01:00.600 respond accordingly to any such event. President Biden, while in Poland, told some of our 100,000

00:01:09.080 troops now in Europe that while they were in Ukraine, they would see women and young people

00:01:14.260 stand in front of tanks. You heard me right. He actually said that. The White House and damage

00:01:20.740 control didn't try to explain what the president had said or why. They just repeated that no American

00:01:28.040 troops are going to Ukraine. Let's hope the White House is correct. And while the president was 1.00

00:01:35.840 embarrassing the nation in Europe, the White House was honoring Yuri Kochayama, a Maoist activist who

00:01:43.700 admired Osama bin Laden, Fidel Castro and Che Guevara. The White House had no explanation why the pro-communists

00:01:52.660 should be honored in its Women's History Month. But then opinion polls show repeatedly there's little 1.00

00:01:58.820 this White House can explain satisfactorily to the American people. Joining us now is a distinguished

00:02:05.400 guest who is a frequent critic of this president and administration. We're delighted to have with us

00:02:11.760 today a true lion of the Senate and physician as well, Senator Rand Paul. Senator Paul, welcome to

00:02:19.160 the show. Let's start, first of all, with Fauci, the bad doctor showing his face this week. You have

00:02:26.900 called him a menace. I think a lot of Americans now would agree with your characterization. Your thoughts

00:02:33.540 on his reemergence and his new warning? You know, I was kind of hoping he was going to remain in

00:02:37.700 witness protection. But unfortunately, he's back on primetime. And the thing is, is he takes

00:02:44.060 the evidence and completely misconstrues it, misinterprets it, and misapplies it. So for

00:02:50.280 example, the evidence right now that is out there everywhere for anybody to see is that the daily

00:02:56.000 incidence of the disease is plummeting to the lowest levels of the pandemic. Hospitalizations are at the

00:03:02.500 lowest level of the pandemic. Deaths are at the lowest level of the pandemic. And he resurfaces

00:03:07.560 to say, well, there could be another wave and we need to be prepared to get back in these masks and

00:03:13.580 get the plexiglass up and put the six foot part stickers back on the floor. And so he's just toned

00:03:19.640 out, completely toned out, but really misinterpreting the evidence. The clear cut evidence, if you take a

00:03:25.220 random sample of a thousand people from anywhere in the United States, you'll find that 95% of them

00:03:30.760 have antibodies to either the virus or to the vaccine. So the combination, the immunity gathered

00:03:37.760 from natural infection and from the vaccine is now present in 95% of the people. So this is no longer

00:03:43.560 a novel virus. This is a virus for which almost everyone in society has some immunity. The thing

00:03:49.780 he should be talking about, though, is there are a few people that despite vaccination, and maybe a few

00:03:54.720 who've been previously infected, hadn't been really reported, but that might get it again and might get

00:03:59.120 sick enough to die. And there's a treatment. What Dr. Fauci should be doing is going on television

00:04:03.880 saying, if you get treated, you need to be treated in the first several days if you're at high risk,

00:04:09.160 because the treatment works a lot better in the first couple of days. And primarily that

00:04:12.800 treatment's monoclonal antibodies, although there are some other anti-inflammatories that may help as

00:04:18.200 well. But you don't hear that from him at all. It's just this blather about put four masks on,

00:04:23.500 wear goggles, you need earmuffs, and don't go outside and don't get anywhere close to anybody. But it's all

00:04:28.580 nonsense, and we need to discount what he's saying because he's not really examining the evidence

00:04:34.040 objectively. And Senator Paul is not simply criticizing Dr. Fauci. He's introduced legislation

00:04:40.000 to eliminate his position and to spread the job across three entities, which makes, I think, a lot

00:04:49.500 of sense just as a layman. What do you think the prospects for the legislation are? Well, we had a

00:04:57.240 disappointing vote in the committee. We voted and we knew we wouldn't gain Democrat support in the

00:05:01.620 committee, but we actually lost six Republicans in the committee. Now, five of those six actually

00:05:06.340 voted for impeachment as well. So what you have is Republicans who voted to get rid of Donald Trump

00:05:11.540 and voted to keep Dr. Fauci. And I think if you went home to these Republican states that they

00:05:17.320 represent and told voters they voted to impeach Donald Trump or they voted to keep Anthony Fauci,

00:05:23.300 I don't think they'd find hardly a person in their state that actually supports that position.

00:05:27.740 So I think part of the job now is America needs to know who these people are. And when that message

00:05:34.200 gets out, hopefully we'll get some better representation from these Republican states. 0.98

00:05:39.000 Now, the good news is this. We did have another vote, and that was on ending the mask mandate on

00:05:43.740 airplanes. And we actually won that one 57 to 40. And we got eight Democrats to side with us the first

00:05:50.060 time that any Democrats have broken ranks to oppose the Fauci mandates. Well, that is terrific. And

00:05:56.660 again, congratulations to you on leading that effort. And today we get word that CEOs of 10 major

00:06:03.240 airlines and cargo operators, that includes the big guys like American, FedEx, Southwest, JetBlue,

00:06:11.320 and others, telling President Biden to drop the outdated mask mandates and tests. And that's

00:06:19.460 exactly what you've been telling everybody for I don't know how long.

00:06:24.540 And it actually was a good sign, a good sign that the Southwest Airlines flight attendants union also

00:06:29.440 joined that statement to say it's time to get rid of the masks. Heathrow in England has gotten rid of

00:06:35.200 all mask mandates in the airport. British Airways, Virgin Atlantic has gotten rid of them as well.

00:06:43.460 And the thing is, is we used to be the free people. We used to be the independent spirited

00:06:47.440 Americans. It used to be the Europeans we thought were the, you know, the people who always wanted 0.99

00:06:51.440 government and wanted the nanny state. England's ahead of this on restoring freedom and still in 0.78

00:06:56.180 America, you know, the nanny state is there telling us to wear these ridiculous masks that don't work.

00:07:02.100 Well, the next thing, Justin Trudeau will come out ahead of us. 0.83

00:07:06.980 Yeah, if we're behind Trudeau, then we are really, really in trouble.

00:07:11.940 I want to turn to also your legislation on ending the national emergency declaration. It is such an

00:07:19.120 important issue for this country, because many people are not aware that even there are,

00:07:25.000 there is such a thing as the National Emergencies Act, and that this president is operating with the

00:07:31.940 full force and power of that, that provision that gives him superpowers as president of the United

00:07:39.580 States. What are, what are the prospects there? You know, it's funny because many on the left have

00:07:45.200 worried and wrung their hands about the end of democracy, the end of freedom in our country based

00:07:51.120 on sort of impulses they think are in Republican candidates. And yet the Emergencies Act really is

00:07:56.920 an end to democracy. We shouldn't have this emergency act, or if it was there, it should be like for

00:08:01.860 three days until Congress can gather to meet and approve of things. And that goes to with really

00:08:06.740 together with war and things as well. There's obviously the ability of a commander in chief to

00:08:10.780 repel repulse an attack. But if we're involved in war, there's no reason why we can't be back here

00:08:15.180 within three days and voting. And so emergencies that go on year on, year in, year out, particularly for

00:08:21.660 things that are really, you know, is something really an emergency after an urgency after two

00:08:26.060 years of something. But it's even worse than the Emergencies Act. They've also taken organizations

00:08:30.660 like the CDC, which were never given any economic mandate or power. And the CDC issued an edict a year

00:08:38.620 or two ago and said, oh, you don't have to pay your rent. You don't have to pay your car mortgage or

00:08:42.680 your house mortgage if you feel like COVID is upsetting your daily routine. And the courts fortunately

00:08:48.480 struck that one down. That one went on a year or two and was struck down multiple times by the court.

00:08:52.980 But the mask mandate comes from the CDC also. And there's nothing in CDC legislation ever passed

00:08:58.700 by Congress that gives the CDC the authority to mandate masks. We would hope that in the court,

00:09:04.140 the court will see this the same way as the eviction moratorium. But we don't know yet. But we have

00:09:10.320 filed a lawsuit and we're hoping to get it to court as well, or that Biden will get rid of it soon

00:09:15.820 enough and make the case moot. I think, Senator, it seems to me that President Biden will think

00:09:22.680 soon enough means any time after the midterms. Do you think it is straightforwardly that politically

00:09:29.780 motivated? It is and it isn't. I mean, I think if he reads the politics that way, I think he's going

00:09:35.940 to make a big mistake. I think they actually sense, you know, because you've had now Democrat governors

00:09:40.680 in New Jersey and other places lessening some of the mandates. You have eight people voting with us

00:09:45.600 this last time for the first time. So I think actually the politics are on the other side of

00:09:49.820 this. It used to be just Republican moms and dads were upset about, you know, putting their kids in

00:09:54.700 these masks for eight hours a day. But even Democrats and independents are starting to say,

00:09:58.880 my goodness, look at all these old guys parading around in the state of the union with no mask. 1.00

00:10:03.320 Look at them whispering in the ear of Biden. Look at them, how close they are. And they're not dying

00:10:07.480 like flies. They're not dropping like flies. And so why is my four-year-old in a mask all day?

00:10:12.660 So people are starting to see the ludicrous nature of this. And I've said it a million times,

00:10:17.380 the cloth masks don't work at all. And so I think even some people on the left are like,

00:10:20.920 oh, maybe it's a point because then CNN, you know, I don't recommend watching it,

00:10:25.080 but there was a woman over there. There's a big acolyte. She's a doctor and she's a big acolyte 0.99

00:10:29.720 of Anthony Fauci. But she said on air that cloth masks are nothing more than facial decorations.

00:10:35.000 And that's been the truth since the beginning of this. The pores and the cloth masks are 650 times

00:10:42.100 greater than the size of the virus. It's sort of the equivalent of a fly going through a chain-link

00:10:47.560 fence. And so it's just been ridiculous since the beginning without signs to back it up. And yet 0.57

00:10:53.500 we've been forced to wear these ridiculous things on the planes.

00:10:56.780 And with our children and our students in schools, with the two largest teachers unions,

00:11:04.040 absolutely their force and political power behind them, demanding that young students wear masks,

00:11:11.820 we now know that that was utter madness. We now know that the insistence on vaccines,

00:11:18.260 just as you have been saying, by the way, for some time again, you have been absolutely prescient

00:11:24.820 on all of this and I think deserve great credit. Those teachers unions also deserve to be held

00:11:33.460 accountable for what they have done throughout this emergency. Do you not agree?

00:11:39.860 Well, the message needs to be loud and clear that the people that were hurt worst by the teachers not

00:11:44.780 coming to work and not being willing to teach in person are poor kids, often minorities, but poor 0.97

00:11:51.300 in general, kids with difficult family circumstances with one parent. And that parent has to work to

00:11:57.740 bring food home. And there's not enough people around with the wherewithal to teach them at home.

00:12:02.500 That's why we have schools. And when the teachers wouldn't teach, particularly in California, when

00:12:06.720 they wouldn't teach, they were injuring these kids. Some of these kids lost a year or two.

00:12:11.840 There are thousands of kids across the United States have been lost to follow up.

00:12:15.420 You know, school is a routine sort of stabilizing force in the lives of so many children that don't

00:12:23.460 have that at home. Some people, some of these kids eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at school.

00:12:28.120 I mean, it's where they're fed as well. But a lot of these kids were lost to follow up and

00:12:32.360 scores have struggled. Early childhood development has struggled. Isolation, loneliness, suicide has

00:12:38.460 increased. I mean, the left really deserves, you know, to be condemned for what they did to our

00:12:44.980 kids, particularly the poor kids among us. Absolutely. I want to turn to the midterms

00:12:51.060 elections. You're running for re-election. I've got to ask about Mitt Romney, the only Republican

00:12:57.600 senator to oppose repealing those mask mandates. What is a rhino now? Is a rhino simply a Democrat? 0.58

00:13:06.400 I think it's a person who's completely out of touch, but it's also a person so smug that they

00:13:11.560 think they can call people treasonous or traitors because they disagree with them. I mean, what

00:13:17.220 Romney said about Tulsi Gabbard is completely beyond the pale. And look, I don't agree with a lot of her

00:13:23.240 economic or social policy, but she asked a question about whether or not there were research labs in

00:13:28.080 Ukraine that had been admitted by a Biden official. And for that, Romney carelessly threw around the

00:13:35.360 word traitorous or treasonous. And I think that's just so wrong on so many levels, but it also

00:13:41.500 dumbs the debate down. It was something that McCain would do as well. McCain did it on the floor one

00:13:46.560 day when I was simply asking, do we really need Montenegro to be a NATO? And he accused me of,

00:13:52.420 oh, he's working for Putin. It's like, really, you have to be so juvenile that you're going to say

00:13:58.220 that I'm a traitor to my country because I'm opposing on how big NATO should be, how many countries

00:14:03.300 should be in NATO? And there is a danger to this. There's a good article in the Washington Times,

00:14:08.240 either today or yesterday by David Keene, about what happens in times of war, how in World War I,

00:14:13.560 we put thousands of German Americans in jail and that Woodrow Wilson was horrible about. You know,

00:14:19.660 they put Eugene Debs, who was a socialist, and, you know, the ideas are bad, but I would never put

00:14:25.220 someone whose ideas are bad in jail. They put him in jail for years because he opposed the draft and

00:14:29.500 opposed World War I. That's what happens in time of war. And there's already sort of this

00:14:34.100 jingoism out there that anybody that questions anything about this war, you know, in Ukraine

00:14:40.020 is somehow, oh, I don't know, what are we going to do? Imprison them? Do we need some internment

00:14:43.880 camps? That's the kind of ilk and the kind of people that would call Tulsi Gabbard a traitor,

00:14:49.040 and I think it's awful. Yeah, the war, it seems, is overshadowing terrible, terrible Biden policy and

00:14:57.140 decisions and programs and poll numbers. I can't help but think that's not an accident. I want to

00:15:04.140 get your view when 40 Republican senators sign a letter demanding a no-fly zone, understanding full

00:15:11.260 well that that would be considered an act of war by Vladimir Putin. I don't know if they even

00:15:16.060 understand it. I think they're so naive and so juvenile, and they're thinking they don't

00:15:20.380 understand. If they did, maybe they wouldn't have signed the letter. Because here's the thing is,

00:15:24.440 I don't think there's any excuse. I have nothing good to say about Putin's invasion. I think he's 0.51

00:15:29.460 wrong on every front. I think he's miscalculated, and I think he's going to pay a penalty for the

00:15:33.840 miscalculation and the invasion. And yet, I'm against a no-fly zone because it would be us declaring

00:15:40.240 war, basically. The people who are for it don't have any understanding of how it's set up.

00:15:46.060 When it was set up in Libya, and I really wasn't a favor of it in that case either,

00:15:50.340 but in a small third-world country, what happens is we go in, and they bomb the hell out of their 0.95

00:15:55.500 land-to-air missiles, their air defenses. They bomb the hell out of it for days until there's

00:16:01.240 nothing but smithereens and no ability to shoot a plane down. They bomb their airports. They bomb

00:16:05.920 their air force. And then a no-fly zone becomes America just flies and does whatever we want in the

00:16:10.660 sky. We control the skies. With a third-world country, that's possible. With Russia, 0.99

00:16:15.300 we probably could actually do it. We could probably blow up most of their land-to-air 0.78

00:16:19.520 missiles all around Ukraine and what they brought into Ukraine. We could probably do it. 1.00

00:16:23.720 But the danger and the reason we've avoided confrontation with Russia is one of their 0.99

00:16:28.760 responses could be an irrational response, and it could be not a tit-for-tat. It could be,

00:16:33.760 why don't we just push this red button and blow up New York City? And then all of a sudden, 0.89

00:16:38.020 you have an escalation to basically the end of the world. And so people shouldn't be casual about this.

00:16:43.540 We shouldn't be casual about saying Putin can do whatever he wants. And I've been in favor of

00:16:48.660 selling arms to Ukraine. But at the same time, we can't be casual about the idea, oh, let's have a 0.61

00:16:54.680 no-fly zone. Or let's just, you know, there have been people talking about assassinating Putin. And

00:16:59.780 it's like, well, if you talk that way, it makes it less likely that he'll see an escape ramp that

00:17:05.660 includes negotiation. And there are, even despite all the horror of this war, there is some negotiating

00:17:10.260 going on. But you have to leave some room for an exit for your enemy. If you leave no room,

00:17:16.200 then they'll fight to the death, basically, which means they'll use everything at their disposal.

00:17:20.900 And this could be much, much worse than it already is.

00:17:23.660 Senator, well said. And I know millions of Americans overwhelmingly support you in that view.

00:17:29.800 And it's sad that those Republicans were signatories on that letter so thoughtlessly and so irresponsibly.

00:17:41.880 We have a practice, as you know, on this show. We always give our guests the last word. And

00:17:46.200 here you go.

00:17:48.600 Well, thanks for having me, Lou. And I think the last word is that inflation is everywhere among us.

00:17:53.340 Jerome Powell said the other day, oh, we've got three more years of it. I guess

00:17:56.320 transitory is a long time, according to Jerome Powell. But it's going to be with us. And there's 0.52

00:18:01.980 no escaping it. They can try to blame the gas pump on Putin. But basically, a lot of it's

00:18:06.700 generalized inflation, the grocery store, et cetera. And people are suffering, particularly poor people

00:18:11.560 and people on fixed incomes, retired people. And they're going to blame the appropriate people 0.51

00:18:15.980 who runs our government. It's all Democrats, the House, the Senate, the presidency. It's all Democrats. 0.79

00:18:20.660 And so the blame for the inflation is going to go to them. And I think in November,

00:18:24.820 they're going to be wiped out at the polls. And hopefully, we'll get a chance to start

00:18:29.380 this country on a road to recovery. But thanks for having me.

00:18:33.360 Thank you for being here, Senator. Thanks so much, as always, for your leadership.

00:18:36.960 Senator Rand Paul, a terrific American, a terrific leader whose voice is just critically important in

00:18:44.860 the U.S. Senate. And now we turn to a businessman and entrepreneur, the CEO of a nonprofit group

00:18:51.280 that helps troubled youth, a great American. Our next guest is Congressman Burgess Owens,

00:18:58.200 representing Utah's fourth district in the House of Representatives. Welcome back to the Great

00:19:03.680 America Show. Great to have you with us, Congressman Owens. Congressman, it is great to have you with us.

00:19:09.680 I feel better knowing that we're talking. And I think the audience will feel a lot better after

00:19:15.000 they hear what you have to say. And I'm just thrilled to have you with us.

00:19:21.660 Thank you, Lou. Thank you so much. I look forward to this time of season myself, my friend. I really do.

00:19:25.720 Well, I'm going to start out with Ukraine and a secretary of state who just told the world,

00:19:33.060 we're ready for war. And my first reaction is, who the hell are you to tell anybody we're ready for war?

00:19:39.120 Where is our commander in chief? And I'm not ready for war. And I don't believe most Americans are

00:19:46.080 ready for war. Your thoughts, Congressman? No, we're not ready for war. We're ready to support

00:19:52.240 Ukraine. We have been from the very beginning. And sitting in Congress and listening for months,

00:20:00.060 as we've asked, and I'm pretty sure the president of Ukraine has been begging for the equipment that

00:20:05.860 they needed to support what we knew was coming down the pipe. It is amazing to me to see a

00:20:13.960 president that can step over himself every single issue, every single crisis we have. It's sad to

00:20:20.060 say that we're not talking about a crisis that is something that should be on the front of everybody's

00:20:23.860 mind, no question about it. But in the process of doing that, we're missing out again on all the

00:20:27.640 other crises that we leave behind that we're still dealing with. And 100,000 deaths from FIMNO is one

00:20:34.940 good example of that. But I'll say this. What we do see coming out of this event that we're going

00:20:42.440 through is scary. We're seeing evil at its worst. We're also seeing what the light of freedom looks

00:20:48.920 like in a great people, in a remarkable leader that they have over in Ukraine. Someone as courageous

00:20:56.060 as they would ask if he wanted to airlift out, his answer was, I'm not looking for a rod, I'm looking

00:21:02.080 for ammunition. That is basically what freedom fighters have always felt. I see this, Lou, just

00:21:10.160 as I think about what they're going through, the onslaught, the devastation. I see what our country

00:21:18.900 looked like when we had the same fight in Revolutionary War. Small group of people that

00:21:24.320 believe so much in freedom that they're willing to give up their life, anything, to make sure they

00:21:30.600 we're able to live in a way that we've been promised being, you know, as we've come to this

00:21:38.120 earth, this promise that we should have this opportunity to have freedom and understand

00:21:41.400 that process. So it is unfortunate to see what's going on right now. And we can talk as we go

00:21:46.500 through this, we can talk about some of the options we might have where the Congress might

00:21:50.460 step in. But I just wanted to put that out there. That is a shame that we're in this position

00:21:55.280 where we didn't have to be. I couldn't agree with you more, Burgess. Let me turn to those

00:22:02.480 options. We are a nuclear power, so is Russia. Putin, to his everlasting disgrace, has even

00:22:13.200 raised the specter of nuclear war. I'd like to know what you think is the right way forward,

00:22:20.340 if you've considered that. What is the smartest, most responsible, and what is in the greatest

00:22:28.800 interest of the United States here? Okay. Well, first of all, American feet on the ground is not

00:22:36.860 an option. What we can do, even though we're late to the party, and once again, our president is

00:22:41.500 leading from behind, we can get to those great people, those courageous people, they quit what

00:22:46.540 they need to do what they can as long as that option is available. Obviously, as Russia begins 0.96

00:22:52.660 to encircle those cities, those options will become the United Strong. But the things we can do here

00:22:58.840 is very simply, let's focus on our own national security. Let's focus on making sure that we're,

00:23:04.780 once again, energy independent, that we're not paying despots like Putin to do what he's doing

00:23:11.240 right now. If people can just think, just think about what it takes for us to have the energy

00:23:18.100 that we need to be the leaders of the world, to help our friends out and need it. There's three

00:23:22.600 spigots we can pull from. The one spigot is we can do it ourselves, self-sufficient. We have

00:23:27.680 the resources, we have the innovation to truly become energy independent, where we can begin to lower

00:23:32.860 the demand. We can lower the amount. In other words, we have enough here to take care of our

00:23:40.660 needs and those around the world. That's the one spigot. The other spigot is from our friends,

00:23:44.560 like Canada. That's what the Keystone Pipeline was all about, that we can bring energy in,

00:23:50.780 in a very clean way, in a very safe way, and make sure that we're, again, providing for

00:23:57.400 ourselves and others. The third spigot is to get from our enemies, those who hate us, those who

00:24:03.060 will raise the price and make sure that our economy is not running well. Which option did

00:24:07.560 Biden decide on? Self-sufficiency, our friends, our enemies? He decided to go with our enemies.

00:24:12.680 And it's sad to say that's as simple as it comes down to in terms of what's happened

00:24:16.520 when we shut down our ability to get from ourselves what we need and then go to and beg OPEC

00:24:24.220 or beg Russia to treat us right. So that's one area that we're going to understand and see in the

00:24:30.380 future. Things we can do very simply, we need to fast track our liquid LNC imports. We need to make

00:24:39.340 sure we're stopping the regulations that have been piled on top of us to stop energy development right

00:24:45.260 here. And we need to make sure we're not freezing the federal lands in which all this, the new oil and

00:24:51.340 gas projects can be handled. So those are just a few things. And by the way, it's beginning to

00:24:56.160 happen, Lou. We're actually in this process right now as we speak, we're putting together

00:25:01.260 legislation that's going to stop us buying oil from Russia. And even though the private sector is

00:25:06.020 already kind of leading the way in doing that, I think it's time for us as a nation, as a legislative

00:25:11.000 branch to make sure at House and the Senate that we don't buy one drop of oil from Russia as they 1.00

00:25:16.880 turn that oil into dollars to bombard these great people in Ukraine.

00:25:23.620 And I think all of that is an appropriate response to what is happening right now as a result of the

00:25:31.400 Russian invasion of Ukraine. And to Congressman Owens' points, let's recall specifically that this

00:25:39.440 president amongst his earliest acts was to stop the Keystone XL pipeline. That pipeline would have

00:25:46.980 brought in almost twice as much oil as we now import from Russia. He also lifted the sanctions on Russia

00:25:57.260 that President Trump had put in place against Russia. Again, that was amongst the very first acts

00:26:04.340 that he that he that he undertook. We are a country right now that has been led by a commander in

00:26:12.400 chief, a president who is not considering America first. He's not even considering America third,

00:26:20.500 fourth or fifth down the line. He is decidedly anti-American in the in the consequence of his

00:26:30.540 decisions. He doesn't really care. Obviously, our borders are wide open. He wants he wants to support

00:26:36.860 Ukraine in the protection of their borders, but not us. This is a poorly thought out, poorly run 0.82

00:26:43.520 administration. And frankly, I'm glad the administration doesn't run much better because

00:26:48.800 there's no trouble. There's no just no telling what kind of calamity would be visited upon us if these

00:26:56.040 people actually were energetic and were fulfilling that agenda that has been stopped at this point in

00:27:01.980 Congress. Where is the Republican Party, though, Congressman? It's we need leaders right now.

00:27:09.660 The Democrats here don't have them. And the Republican Party, we haven't heard from them on Ukraine

00:27:16.320 as one voice, one party. It's outrageous. Well, and this is kind of where I see it. First of all,

00:27:22.900 and sadly to say, and this is what America has to really understand, there truly are consequences

00:27:29.400 with our elections. And it's not a game. I think I think up to this point, many Americans just kind

00:27:35.400 of look at politics as they look at their football teams. You know, it's they just want their team to

00:27:39.840 win because they have the right uniform or they have the right coach. We're so far past it. We're

00:27:44.780 talking about freedom. We talk about the essence of our culture, everything that makes what makes

00:27:49.360 America work. This freedom bubble we live in every single day of our lives is something that we just

00:27:54.220 can't take for granted. So unfortunately, we're in a position where legislations are driven by the

00:28:00.560 Democratic Party. The message is being driven by the Democratic-run media. You see, so all the things

00:28:06.300 that we're up against, what the upside of where we are is that it doesn't matter where you are now,

00:28:13.560 what party you're in, we're all feeling the pain. One thing that happens with American people,

00:28:17.740 once we can come together and start having conversations like we're doing right now,

00:28:21.260 and I'll say that the greatest example of that, Lou, is what happened to CRT, what's happening

00:28:24.920 with our education system. These guys have been getting away with this for decades, attacking our

00:28:29.780 kids, turning our kids into anti-American Marxists. They've been doing it for a long time, but all of

00:28:34.560 a sudden, American people start waking up. And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle we're on,

00:28:38.300 when it comes to attacking our kids, moms and dads are all one in that particular process.

00:28:43.080 So all of a sudden, we're now having legislation that's coming through that's resonating. And I'll

00:28:50.980 say that the upside, if there's a silver lining on all the things that's happened with the Biden

00:28:58.940 administration and what's happening in Ukraine, is that American people are finally saying, you know

00:29:03.740 what, I'm not going to take your message of don't believe your lying eyes. I see it. I feel it. I know

00:29:08.680 what inflation looks like. I know the fear in my cities where crime is going crazy. I know the pain

00:29:14.040 of watching 100,000 other Americans die from fentanyl because of an open border. So these

00:29:19.880 things now are becoming very obvious. And I would just say, let's not lose hope in what we do when

00:29:27.960 we wake up. If I can give a message to Americans, sometimes it takes a while because of this freedom

00:29:35.020 bubble that's very robust. It's just habitual. It's like our next breath of air. But once we start

00:29:42.160 talking to each other, there's nothing more powerful than we the people. So just know that

00:29:48.700 we're in that process. There's a message that's coming out of the Republican Party. Now, it might

00:29:53.520 be tougher to hear because we don't own the airwaves. We have a few friends like you, Lou,

00:29:59.660 and others that get out there and get the message out. But the good thing is that, and I'll say this

00:30:06.120 from someone who came out of position and never thinking I would be a politician and decided to

00:30:11.380 be one just because I thought it may make a difference. I've never seen the engagement I've

00:30:15.780 seen across the country with Americans who in the past have been too busy doing their thing with

00:30:20.880 their kids, working for retirement. They're getting on the field of action like they never have

00:30:25.760 and saying, I'm going to take part in it. And now it's time for me to be present. So we're coming.

00:30:32.180 We're coming to the right place. We just have to just recognize it's going to take a while.

00:30:38.920 We can't just turn it overnight, unfortunately.

00:30:41.320 No, we can't. And I think the American people are mature enough, smart enough, adult enough to know

00:30:50.020 that this isn't going to be easy. It would behoove us to understand. In fact, it's going to require a

00:30:56.640 lot more of our energy. Some of the folks in your district and who are neighbors of ours in our

00:31:03.400 community are working endlessly. They're working two jobs, some of them three. Some of them can't

00:31:11.380 get work because now they can't afford a used car. There are all sorts of tough stories in every

00:31:18.820 community. But the folks who can make a difference have to make a difference. And by that, I'm not

00:31:25.600 talking about another federal program. I'm not talking about, even frankly, another state program.

00:31:31.320 I'm talking about people in their communities acting as neighbors in support of one another.

00:31:36.660 I say on this show constantly, you know, you can think as global as you like, as long as you're

00:31:43.820 acting local. But you've got to take care of what is most proximate. You've got to take care of the

00:31:52.480 business that is in front of you. And that business, I'm talking about your family, your loved ones,

00:31:58.040 your neighbors, your friends. You've got to take care of each other. And that means you've got to be

00:32:03.200 down at that city hall. You've got to go to those school board meetings. You've got to make a difference

00:32:08.820 in your own community. And there's just no other option available if we're going to restore this

00:32:14.900 country to its full power and full potential.

00:32:19.340 Lou, you nailed it. You nailed it, Lou. And I'll say that for those who kind of wonder what's made

00:32:26.740 our country such a unique place, other than our foundation, our history, you know, the fact that

00:32:31.420 we began as a Judeo-Christian nation, what really helps us to continue to move forward throughout

00:32:37.620 each generation is something called empathy. And that empathy comes from going through the

00:32:43.540 experience ourselves at times. I mean, it's easy, and I'm going to go back to talk about school

00:32:48.940 choices, a good example. It's easy for moms and dads who live in a great neighborhood, who live in a

00:32:53.460 great zip code, to feel sympathy for those who can't. And they say, I would love to help you. I love,

00:32:58.540 but then they don't think about it again because it's not impacting them directly.

00:33:01.840 What happened over the last two years is that parents in those good zip codes realized their kids

00:33:07.340 are not getting educated. Their kids are being damaged. Their kids are committing suicide.

00:33:10.680 And all of a sudden, that empathy factor kicks in in a way that really resonates, that we now are

00:33:16.020 all in together. So as tough as it's been, if I can just encourage people to recognize, it's within

00:33:24.940 the DNA of Americans to have this sense of empathy. And then once we get it, we're people of action.

00:33:30.680 So yes, we're going to have more people that are going to the town hall meetings, that are standing up,

00:33:35.320 that are standing up against the cancel culture because realize that is not America at all.

00:33:41.340 And then once we come together, we have to realize the other side also. They're cowards and bullies. 0.99

00:33:46.780 The Marxists, the socialists, the ones that hide in bureaucracy, the ones that hide behind tenure, 1.00

00:33:51.500 the ones that hide behind their black mass that are white hoods, they're cowards and bullies. 1.00

00:33:56.460 And as we stand up, as we the people, they lose their power and they get frantic and they get afraid. 1.00

00:34:01.200 So that's what's happening now. I would just say this. Let's do what the left does not want us to do.

00:34:09.520 Let's have conversations. Let's be civil with each other. We might not agree on everything,

00:34:14.500 but what we can agree on is our country needs to move forward. Our kids need to have a better future.

00:34:19.740 The only way we can do that is to be patient, to have enough confidence in our way of thinking,

00:34:27.300 in our debate, our way we articulate ourselves, that we give people space. And if we do that to

00:34:32.300 each other, then we win. Very similar, by the way, very similar to the way we used to get together

00:34:37.740 football games. We could have a totally different size of the aisle, but boy, we put that same

00:34:43.160 uniform color on and support our team. We're high-fiving each other because that one moment,

00:34:48.620 we're thinking about something bigger than our differences. And I would say this is our time

00:34:52.800 as we go through these hard times and see this, the evil that's happening around the world because

00:34:57.840 of the freckleness of leadership here. Let's never ever look at politics and our politicians

00:35:05.180 as sports figures, as sports teams. This is life and death. We need to take this process serious,

00:35:12.600 have our conversations, be courageous enough that we can look at other channels and listen to other

00:35:17.180 people and have a conversation of how can we now move this thing forward. And I think we'll do a good

00:35:21.880 job for sure. I do too. I want to, in that regard, talk about something that happened with Lindsey

00:35:30.040 Graham, the Republican senator from South Carolina, calling for the assassination of Vladimir Putin.

00:35:40.300 As someone, as one of my colleagues put it, you know, I don't agree with the message,

00:35:45.880 but I wouldn't mind the result. And I understand that motivation, that thinking.

00:35:51.060 But for a U.S. Senator to say that in front of young people, students, kids growing up,

00:35:59.220 it is such a horrible signal to send to American youth for a senator thinking he's being cute to

00:36:08.240 say such a thing. He's pandering. And I'll say this about Lindsey Graham. I object to him. I don't

00:36:17.700 like the man. I don't like what he stands for or what he's done to this country with some of his

00:36:22.940 nonsense. But, you know, it's his right. He's a senator. He represents folks in South Carolina.

00:36:29.860 But that is just beneath what any senator should consider saying, any public official. And I,

00:36:35.700 do you agree?

00:36:37.640 Yeah.

00:36:37.740 Yeah. There's something that we have to always remember, again, particularly as we represent

00:36:42.120 our constituents. There are things we can say in private, things we might have wishes for,

00:36:48.060 but at the same time, we do represent not only our districts, our states, but our great country.

00:36:52.760 And that's just not the way we've ever resolved as a nation. Now, again, we have our leaders.

00:36:59.180 They make decisions based on what's best for our nation. They have classified conversations

00:37:06.020 based on what their leadership thinks was best for our country. But we have to be very careful

00:37:10.500 with our words, particularly as representatives. We all know that. And you're right. At the end of

00:37:16.760 the day, we need to leave it to the Russian people to deal with how they're going to deal with their 1.00

00:37:20.980 leaders. We, on the other hand, have to deal with our leaders, put our leaders, make sure our leaders

00:37:26.740 are being held accountable. And I would say that this is the time, and I want to segue for a quick

00:37:33.040 second, because I know it's very frustrating when we see things happening. And we want to happen

00:37:38.120 quickly. We totally do, because we see that we're not going in the right direction. There's never been

00:37:44.640 a better time for our nation to truly pull ourselves back from the abyss. You know, we have been fighting,

00:37:50.180 and we've seen this, we've had these conversations for decades. We've seen this drift,

00:37:54.840 progressive drift toward, away from freedom, where our kids now are coming out as hardened

00:38:01.300 Marxists and socialists and hating our country and debt and all that kind of stuff. Now is our time

00:38:06.760 as Americans to say, how do we get back to the way we were raised, where we can respectfully agree

00:38:13.000 to disagree? We don't pick up a brick or a stick when we don't agree with somebody. We have conversations

00:38:20.640 because we have enough confidence in our way of thinking. We need to get back to that, that point

00:38:25.020 of civility. And it's going to be up to the American people this next year to put, roll up

00:38:31.220 your sleeves and figure out how to get that done. Think about who we're electing from this point

00:38:35.740 moving forward. If we don't like, we're getting, what have we, what have we been presenting in the

00:38:40.440 past? Can we trust the left to keep their word and keep our country moving forward? If you don't,

00:38:45.920 if you agree with me, that the only way we move out of this is come back to our basic tenets of

00:38:50.600 God, family, faith, and education. That's the tenets that makes our country great. It doesn't

00:38:55.720 matter what, what culture, what, what community, if you put those, those tenets in there, their

00:39:00.800 community will thrive. Let's get back to that. Let's talk about it together. Let's not make it so

00:39:05.700 that we're divided, but every single word we say, because that's what the left wants, let's come

00:39:09.700 together and fight for our country in a way that, that Americans have done so well in the past.

00:39:13.380 I think those are wise words, Congressman, and I, and I agree again, a hundred percent. I also think

00:39:20.380 that we have to swear to ourselves to, to, to honor the American way. And what is the American way? A

00:39:29.300 lot of these young people ask, well, the American way has always been to treat one another as equals in

00:39:36.220 every instance, to respect one another, to depend on oneself, to be self-reliant, to, uh, to absolutely

00:39:46.220 accept individual responsibility, uh, and to be plain spoken and to always say what you mean and

00:39:54.060 mean what you say. It's, it's something that is not, it's not practiced widely. And that's a shame

00:40:01.340 because that's been one of the results of this mass media culture that we've created. Uh, and I,

00:40:07.760 and we need to change it. We've, and I love your, and I love your reference to education because

00:40:12.620 education, public education is the great equalizer of our society in so many ways. And it is so

00:40:19.380 important and it's too important to leave the two Marxist run teachers, uh, unions, uh, to tell

00:40:26.300 local school districts and parents that know they don't belong in a school board meeting, uh, and to

00:40:32.520 suggest to the justice department that they're actually domestic terrorists. If they raise their

00:40:37.320 voices, this is the level of ignorance that has grabbed gripped our public educational system.

00:40:44.680 Yeah. And that's, that's why my, my passion is my passion is education. It has been because my dad

00:40:50.660 was a college professor for 40 years. My mom was a high school teacher. So that's my passion. I'll just

00:40:55.620 say this to the point you made earlier, Lou. Uh, you know, we grew up, uh, during an era, you know,

00:41:00.320 we had parents, dads who came back from war. They were very proud of who we were. And in a day when

00:41:05.520 literally you shook somebody's hand, believe it or not, this used to be the way it was. You shake

00:41:10.720 somebody's hand and that was stronger than a whole team of lawyers because there's your word that was

00:41:15.640 on, on, on the head. Now, at that same time, we were talking about the golden rules. You treat people

00:41:20.080 right. You treat people how you want to be treated. Uh, at the same time, we're talking about how proud we were

00:41:25.180 of the history we had together as a country that we've come so far. And we, we looked at the, the,

00:41:30.980 the, how far we've come as a, as a point of pride. You know, and can I make, if I make this point,

00:41:36.140 I grew up in the sixties when, when, uh, you know, the, the big movie at that time was guess who's

00:41:41.920 coming to dinner because nobody had those days in those days with interracial dating, interracial

00:41:45.980 marriage. Well, my, my family today, six kids, five girls, one boy, we represent black, white,

00:41:51.980 Hispanic, American Indian, and Trinidadian. That is what America is about. It's called family.

00:41:57.580 Well, it's a one family. I love it. But that's America. That's where we are until we, unless we

00:42:04.240 let the left have it where I'm now dividing my kids based on our color. And that will never,

00:42:09.420 ever happen. So we need to recognize as Americans, we are family. Let's not go the route of looking at

00:42:15.360 each other from outside in instead of inside out. And that way, that's the way God looks at us.

00:42:20.280 We will find the best in each other. We want to be the best for each other. And that process will,

00:42:25.440 we'll get our country back. It'll be a process we have to fight for, but it's worth the fight.

00:42:30.360 And I think we're in a position that we're more people realizing that this is where we need to

00:42:34.200 be at this point for sure. Yeah. I think that that's a wonderful sentiment and thanks for sharing

00:42:40.080 it with this audience. It's, uh, it's, it's where Americans live. I mean, that's, uh, you talk about

00:42:46.340 as American as apple pie, which you've just described is as American as it gets. And it's,

00:42:53.660 it's who we are. And one of the things that I, I really, I want to, to really beg everyone for is

00:43:01.320 the truth and to understand what is truth and what is not, uh, truth isn't, you know, obviously truth

00:43:07.600 is they say dying in, uh, uh, in the first minutes of war, but the truth is truth, uh, has been,

00:43:14.960 uh, is, is being murdered in every part of this country too. Uh, truth is, is reviled by the very

00:43:22.700 people who should be spreading truth. And that is our, our corporate owned mass media. It's,

00:43:28.800 it's disgusting and it's horrible. And, and we've got too many people who accept what's happening

00:43:34.260 on a radio or a TV show or a newspaper or a magazine is, uh, is representing anything as

00:43:41.360 resembling truth. Uh, and we've just got to insist on and demand truth, uh, particularly of this

00:43:49.480 administration of both political parties, uh, and ourselves for that matter. Yeah. And, and, uh,

00:43:57.260 I think the key to that point, and you're so right, uh, we've been trimming our kids being

00:44:01.840 been told that we have our own separate truths and, uh, no, that's not the way it works. I mean,

00:44:06.820 you have the law of gravity. There's a truth in the law on gravity, which is you jump off the

00:44:10.820 building. I don't care what law you pass in Congress. There's going to be a, a, a, a reckoning

00:44:15.680 and you can feel that it's not fair all the way down to the ground, but it is a reckoning that it's a

00:44:21.480 truth is a gravity. Uh, what goes up must come down. Uh, we have to, we have to get back to those,

00:44:26.500 those type of, of, of understanding and not allow the left to, to take their vision of the way truth

00:44:35.920 works and, and, and just spread it all over the place. Uh, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm excited about

00:44:40.840 where we are. Uh, I, you know, I, I think, you know, when I, when I, when I think about what I was

00:44:45.760 trained, the basic concepts that I was trained when I was growing up as a young man, I, I can't say

00:44:51.020 enough about it. I was taught to love God, country, family, respect women, and authority. Think about

00:44:56.360 how simple that formula is for those early days when things weren't going right well in terms of

00:45:01.900 assimilation, but every culture felt the same way. Respect for God, family, country, women,

00:45:08.060 and authority. And we get our young, young men thinking that way again, um, uh, standing for

00:45:12.980 those values again, uh, the left doesn't have a chance. And so we have to make sure we do that

00:45:17.320 and to be proud of it. Uh, let's stop looking at each other the way the left wants us to look at each

00:45:21.480 other. Embrace those who bring you value that make you feel good, that encourage you stay away

00:45:28.160 from those who bring darkness at the end of the day, turn the darkness off and let's continue to

00:45:33.180 drift toward the light. And we'll be in good shape for sure. Absolutely. Congressman, it is great to

00:45:38.320 always talking with you. I hope you, uh, can come back soon. Uh, we know you're making a difference,

00:45:43.940 uh, not only, uh, in your community, uh, and your district, uh, but in the United States Congress and

00:45:51.380 your nation. And we're deeply appreciative, uh, for you, uh, serving the, the nation, uh, and wish

00:45:59.020 you all of the very best. God bless. Thank you. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, Congressman Owens,

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The Great America Show - March 26, 2022

SEN. PAUL SAYS VOTERS WILL WIPE OUT DEMS IN MID-TERMS

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