SEN. PAUL SAYS VOTERS WILL WIPE OUT DEMS IN MID-TERMS
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After three days in Brussels and Poland, the White House had to clean up some of President Biden s expected gaps and misstatements. Biden had warned Russia that if it were to use chemical weapons, the United States would respond in kind. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan picked up his Biden shovel and cleaned up his mess, saying the president meant to say, respond accordingly to any such event. And while the president was embarrassing the nation in Europe, The White House was honoring Yuri Kochayama, a Maoist activist who admired Osama bin Laden and Fidel Castro.
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Hello, everybody. The Russian war on Ukraine is as vicious, brutal, and bloody as any moment
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since the beginning of Putin's invasion a month ago. But now, Russian forces are facing not only
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stalled advances, but a retreat in some areas after counterattacks by the Ukrainian defenders.
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The Russians are pulling back from early gains in Kherson, as well as the capital of Kiev.
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Now, this is The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us. And after three days in Brussels
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and Poland, the White House had to clean up some of President Biden's expected gaps
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and misstatements. He didn't disappoint. Biden had warned Russia that if it were to use chemical
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weapons, the United States would, quote, respond in kind. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan
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picked up his Biden shovel and cleaned up his mess, saying the president meant to say, quote,
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respond accordingly to any such event. President Biden, while in Poland, told some of our 100,000
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troops now in Europe that while they were in Ukraine, they would see women and young people
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stand in front of tanks. You heard me right. He actually said that. The White House and damage
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control didn't try to explain what the president had said or why. They just repeated that no American
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troops are going to Ukraine. Let's hope the White House is correct. And while the president was
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embarrassing the nation in Europe, the White House was honoring Yuri Kochayama, a Maoist activist who
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admired Osama bin Laden, Fidel Castro and Che Guevara. The White House had no explanation why the pro-communists
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should be honored in its Women's History Month. But then opinion polls show repeatedly there's little
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this White House can explain satisfactorily to the American people. Joining us now is a distinguished
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guest who is a frequent critic of this president and administration. We're delighted to have with us
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today a true lion of the Senate and physician as well, Senator Rand Paul. Senator Paul, welcome to
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the show. Let's start, first of all, with Fauci, the bad doctor showing his face this week. You have
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called him a menace. I think a lot of Americans now would agree with your characterization. Your thoughts
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on his reemergence and his new warning? You know, I was kind of hoping he was going to remain in
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witness protection. But unfortunately, he's back on primetime. And the thing is, is he takes
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the evidence and completely misconstrues it, misinterprets it, and misapplies it. So for
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example, the evidence right now that is out there everywhere for anybody to see is that the daily
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incidence of the disease is plummeting to the lowest levels of the pandemic. Hospitalizations are at the
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lowest level of the pandemic. Deaths are at the lowest level of the pandemic. And he resurfaces
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to say, well, there could be another wave and we need to be prepared to get back in these masks and
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get the plexiglass up and put the six foot part stickers back on the floor. And so he's just toned
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out, completely toned out, but really misinterpreting the evidence. The clear cut evidence, if you take a
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random sample of a thousand people from anywhere in the United States, you'll find that 95% of them
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have antibodies to either the virus or to the vaccine. So the combination, the immunity gathered
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from natural infection and from the vaccine is now present in 95% of the people. So this is no longer
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a novel virus. This is a virus for which almost everyone in society has some immunity. The thing
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he should be talking about, though, is there are a few people that despite vaccination, and maybe a few
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who've been previously infected, hadn't been really reported, but that might get it again and might get
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sick enough to die. And there's a treatment. What Dr. Fauci should be doing is going on television
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saying, if you get treated, you need to be treated in the first several days if you're at high risk,
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because the treatment works a lot better in the first couple of days. And primarily that
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treatment's monoclonal antibodies, although there are some other anti-inflammatories that may help as
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well. But you don't hear that from him at all. It's just this blather about put four masks on,
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wear goggles, you need earmuffs, and don't go outside and don't get anywhere close to anybody. But it's all
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nonsense, and we need to discount what he's saying because he's not really examining the evidence
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objectively. And Senator Paul is not simply criticizing Dr. Fauci. He's introduced legislation
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to eliminate his position and to spread the job across three entities, which makes, I think, a lot
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of sense just as a layman. What do you think the prospects for the legislation are? Well, we had a
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disappointing vote in the committee. We voted and we knew we wouldn't gain Democrat support in the
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committee, but we actually lost six Republicans in the committee. Now, five of those six actually
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voted for impeachment as well. So what you have is Republicans who voted to get rid of Donald Trump
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and voted to keep Dr. Fauci. And I think if you went home to these Republican states that they
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represent and told voters they voted to impeach Donald Trump or they voted to keep Anthony Fauci,
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I don't think they'd find hardly a person in their state that actually supports that position.
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So I think part of the job now is America needs to know who these people are. And when that message
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gets out, hopefully we'll get some better representation from these Republican states.
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Now, the good news is this. We did have another vote, and that was on ending the mask mandate on
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airplanes. And we actually won that one 57 to 40. And we got eight Democrats to side with us the first
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time that any Democrats have broken ranks to oppose the Fauci mandates. Well, that is terrific. And
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again, congratulations to you on leading that effort. And today we get word that CEOs of 10 major
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airlines and cargo operators, that includes the big guys like American, FedEx, Southwest, JetBlue,
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and others, telling President Biden to drop the outdated mask mandates and tests. And that's
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exactly what you've been telling everybody for I don't know how long.
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And it actually was a good sign, a good sign that the Southwest Airlines flight attendants union also
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joined that statement to say it's time to get rid of the masks. Heathrow in England has gotten rid of
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all mask mandates in the airport. British Airways, Virgin Atlantic has gotten rid of them as well.
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And the thing is, is we used to be the free people. We used to be the independent spirited
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Americans. It used to be the Europeans we thought were the, you know, the people who always wanted
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government and wanted the nanny state. England's ahead of this on restoring freedom and still in
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America, you know, the nanny state is there telling us to wear these ridiculous masks that don't work.
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Well, the next thing, Justin Trudeau will come out ahead of us.
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Yeah, if we're behind Trudeau, then we are really, really in trouble.
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I want to turn to also your legislation on ending the national emergency declaration. It is such an
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important issue for this country, because many people are not aware that even there are,
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there is such a thing as the National Emergencies Act, and that this president is operating with the
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full force and power of that, that provision that gives him superpowers as president of the United
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States. What are, what are the prospects there? You know, it's funny because many on the left have
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worried and wrung their hands about the end of democracy, the end of freedom in our country based
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on sort of impulses they think are in Republican candidates. And yet the Emergencies Act really is
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an end to democracy. We shouldn't have this emergency act, or if it was there, it should be like for
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three days until Congress can gather to meet and approve of things. And that goes to with really
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together with war and things as well. There's obviously the ability of a commander in chief to
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repel repulse an attack. But if we're involved in war, there's no reason why we can't be back here
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within three days and voting. And so emergencies that go on year on, year in, year out, particularly for
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things that are really, you know, is something really an emergency after an urgency after two
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years of something. But it's even worse than the Emergencies Act. They've also taken organizations
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like the CDC, which were never given any economic mandate or power. And the CDC issued an edict a year
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or two ago and said, oh, you don't have to pay your rent. You don't have to pay your car mortgage or
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your house mortgage if you feel like COVID is upsetting your daily routine. And the courts fortunately
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struck that one down. That one went on a year or two and was struck down multiple times by the court.
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But the mask mandate comes from the CDC also. And there's nothing in CDC legislation ever passed
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by Congress that gives the CDC the authority to mandate masks. We would hope that in the court,
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the court will see this the same way as the eviction moratorium. But we don't know yet. But we have
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filed a lawsuit and we're hoping to get it to court as well, or that Biden will get rid of it soon
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enough and make the case moot. I think, Senator, it seems to me that President Biden will think
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soon enough means any time after the midterms. Do you think it is straightforwardly that politically
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motivated? It is and it isn't. I mean, I think if he reads the politics that way, I think he's going
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to make a big mistake. I think they actually sense, you know, because you've had now Democrat governors
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in New Jersey and other places lessening some of the mandates. You have eight people voting with us
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this last time for the first time. So I think actually the politics are on the other side of
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this. It used to be just Republican moms and dads were upset about, you know, putting their kids in
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these masks for eight hours a day. But even Democrats and independents are starting to say,
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my goodness, look at all these old guys parading around in the state of the union with no mask.
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Look at them whispering in the ear of Biden. Look at them, how close they are. And they're not dying
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like flies. They're not dropping like flies. And so why is my four-year-old in a mask all day?
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So people are starting to see the ludicrous nature of this. And I've said it a million times,
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the cloth masks don't work at all. And so I think even some people on the left are like,
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oh, maybe it's a point because then CNN, you know, I don't recommend watching it,
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but there was a woman over there. There's a big acolyte. She's a doctor and she's a big acolyte
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of Anthony Fauci. But she said on air that cloth masks are nothing more than facial decorations.
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And that's been the truth since the beginning of this. The pores and the cloth masks are 650 times
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greater than the size of the virus. It's sort of the equivalent of a fly going through a chain-link
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fence. And so it's just been ridiculous since the beginning without signs to back it up. And yet
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we've been forced to wear these ridiculous things on the planes.
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And with our children and our students in schools, with the two largest teachers unions,
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absolutely their force and political power behind them, demanding that young students wear masks,
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we now know that that was utter madness. We now know that the insistence on vaccines,
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just as you have been saying, by the way, for some time again, you have been absolutely prescient
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on all of this and I think deserve great credit. Those teachers unions also deserve to be held
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accountable for what they have done throughout this emergency. Do you not agree?
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Well, the message needs to be loud and clear that the people that were hurt worst by the teachers not
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coming to work and not being willing to teach in person are poor kids, often minorities, but poor
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in general, kids with difficult family circumstances with one parent. And that parent has to work to
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bring food home. And there's not enough people around with the wherewithal to teach them at home.
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That's why we have schools. And when the teachers wouldn't teach, particularly in California, when
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they wouldn't teach, they were injuring these kids. Some of these kids lost a year or two.
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There are thousands of kids across the United States have been lost to follow up.
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You know, school is a routine sort of stabilizing force in the lives of so many children that don't
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have that at home. Some people, some of these kids eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at school.
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I mean, it's where they're fed as well. But a lot of these kids were lost to follow up and
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scores have struggled. Early childhood development has struggled. Isolation, loneliness, suicide has
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increased. I mean, the left really deserves, you know, to be condemned for what they did to our
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kids, particularly the poor kids among us. Absolutely. I want to turn to the midterms
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elections. You're running for re-election. I've got to ask about Mitt Romney, the only Republican
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senator to oppose repealing those mask mandates. What is a rhino now? Is a rhino simply a Democrat?
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I think it's a person who's completely out of touch, but it's also a person so smug that they
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think they can call people treasonous or traitors because they disagree with them. I mean, what
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Romney said about Tulsi Gabbard is completely beyond the pale. And look, I don't agree with a lot of her
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economic or social policy, but she asked a question about whether or not there were research labs in
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Ukraine that had been admitted by a Biden official. And for that, Romney carelessly threw around the
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word traitorous or treasonous. And I think that's just so wrong on so many levels, but it also
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dumbs the debate down. It was something that McCain would do as well. McCain did it on the floor one
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day when I was simply asking, do we really need Montenegro to be a NATO? And he accused me of,
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oh, he's working for Putin. It's like, really, you have to be so juvenile that you're going to say
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that I'm a traitor to my country because I'm opposing on how big NATO should be, how many countries
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should be in NATO? And there is a danger to this. There's a good article in the Washington Times,
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either today or yesterday by David Keene, about what happens in times of war, how in World War I,
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we put thousands of German Americans in jail and that Woodrow Wilson was horrible about. You know,
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they put Eugene Debs, who was a socialist, and, you know, the ideas are bad, but I would never put
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someone whose ideas are bad in jail. They put him in jail for years because he opposed the draft and
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opposed World War I. That's what happens in time of war. And there's already sort of this
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jingoism out there that anybody that questions anything about this war, you know, in Ukraine
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is somehow, oh, I don't know, what are we going to do? Imprison them? Do we need some internment
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camps? That's the kind of ilk and the kind of people that would call Tulsi Gabbard a traitor,
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and I think it's awful. Yeah, the war, it seems, is overshadowing terrible, terrible Biden policy and
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decisions and programs and poll numbers. I can't help but think that's not an accident. I want to
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get your view when 40 Republican senators sign a letter demanding a no-fly zone, understanding full
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well that that would be considered an act of war by Vladimir Putin. I don't know if they even
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understand it. I think they're so naive and so juvenile, and they're thinking they don't
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understand. If they did, maybe they wouldn't have signed the letter. Because here's the thing is,
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I don't think there's any excuse. I have nothing good to say about Putin's invasion. I think he's
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wrong on every front. I think he's miscalculated, and I think he's going to pay a penalty for the
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miscalculation and the invasion. And yet, I'm against a no-fly zone because it would be us declaring
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war, basically. The people who are for it don't have any understanding of how it's set up.
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When it was set up in Libya, and I really wasn't a favor of it in that case either,
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but in a small third-world country, what happens is we go in, and they bomb the hell out of their
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land-to-air missiles, their air defenses. They bomb the hell out of it for days until there's
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nothing but smithereens and no ability to shoot a plane down. They bomb their airports. They bomb
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their air force. And then a no-fly zone becomes America just flies and does whatever we want in the
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sky. We control the skies. With a third-world country, that's possible. With Russia,
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we probably could actually do it. We could probably blow up most of their land-to-air
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missiles all around Ukraine and what they brought into Ukraine. We could probably do it.
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But the danger and the reason we've avoided confrontation with Russia is one of their
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responses could be an irrational response, and it could be not a tit-for-tat. It could be,
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why don't we just push this red button and blow up New York City? And then all of a sudden,
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you have an escalation to basically the end of the world. And so people shouldn't be casual about this.
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We shouldn't be casual about saying Putin can do whatever he wants. And I've been in favor of
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selling arms to Ukraine. But at the same time, we can't be casual about the idea, oh, let's have a
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no-fly zone. Or let's just, you know, there have been people talking about assassinating Putin. And
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it's like, well, if you talk that way, it makes it less likely that he'll see an escape ramp that
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includes negotiation. And there are, even despite all the horror of this war, there is some negotiating
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going on. But you have to leave some room for an exit for your enemy. If you leave no room,
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then they'll fight to the death, basically, which means they'll use everything at their disposal.
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And this could be much, much worse than it already is.
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Senator, well said. And I know millions of Americans overwhelmingly support you in that view.
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And it's sad that those Republicans were signatories on that letter so thoughtlessly and so irresponsibly.
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We have a practice, as you know, on this show. We always give our guests the last word. And
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Well, thanks for having me, Lou. And I think the last word is that inflation is everywhere among us.
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Jerome Powell said the other day, oh, we've got three more years of it. I guess
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transitory is a long time, according to Jerome Powell. But it's going to be with us. And there's
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no escaping it. They can try to blame the gas pump on Putin. But basically, a lot of it's
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generalized inflation, the grocery store, et cetera. And people are suffering, particularly poor people
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and people on fixed incomes, retired people. And they're going to blame the appropriate people
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who runs our government. It's all Democrats, the House, the Senate, the presidency. It's all Democrats.
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And so the blame for the inflation is going to go to them. And I think in November,
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they're going to be wiped out at the polls. And hopefully, we'll get a chance to start
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this country on a road to recovery. But thanks for having me.
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Thank you for being here, Senator. Thanks so much, as always, for your leadership.
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Senator Rand Paul, a terrific American, a terrific leader whose voice is just critically important in
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the U.S. Senate. And now we turn to a businessman and entrepreneur, the CEO of a nonprofit group
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that helps troubled youth, a great American. Our next guest is Congressman Burgess Owens,
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representing Utah's fourth district in the House of Representatives. Welcome back to the Great
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America Show. Great to have you with us, Congressman Owens. Congressman, it is great to have you with us.
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I feel better knowing that we're talking. And I think the audience will feel a lot better after
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they hear what you have to say. And I'm just thrilled to have you with us.
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Thank you, Lou. Thank you so much. I look forward to this time of season myself, my friend. I really do.
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Well, I'm going to start out with Ukraine and a secretary of state who just told the world,
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we're ready for war. And my first reaction is, who the hell are you to tell anybody we're ready for war?
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Where is our commander in chief? And I'm not ready for war. And I don't believe most Americans are
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ready for war. Your thoughts, Congressman? No, we're not ready for war. We're ready to support
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Ukraine. We have been from the very beginning. And sitting in Congress and listening for months,
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as we've asked, and I'm pretty sure the president of Ukraine has been begging for the equipment that
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they needed to support what we knew was coming down the pipe. It is amazing to me to see a
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president that can step over himself every single issue, every single crisis we have. It's sad to
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say that we're not talking about a crisis that is something that should be on the front of everybody's
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mind, no question about it. But in the process of doing that, we're missing out again on all the
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other crises that we leave behind that we're still dealing with. And 100,000 deaths from FIMNO is one
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good example of that. But I'll say this. What we do see coming out of this event that we're going
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through is scary. We're seeing evil at its worst. We're also seeing what the light of freedom looks
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like in a great people, in a remarkable leader that they have over in Ukraine. Someone as courageous
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as they would ask if he wanted to airlift out, his answer was, I'm not looking for a rod, I'm looking
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for ammunition. That is basically what freedom fighters have always felt. I see this, Lou, just
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as I think about what they're going through, the onslaught, the devastation. I see what our country
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looked like when we had the same fight in Revolutionary War. Small group of people that
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believe so much in freedom that they're willing to give up their life, anything, to make sure they
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we're able to live in a way that we've been promised being, you know, as we've come to this
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earth, this promise that we should have this opportunity to have freedom and understand
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that process. So it is unfortunate to see what's going on right now. And we can talk as we go
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through this, we can talk about some of the options we might have where the Congress might
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step in. But I just wanted to put that out there. That is a shame that we're in this position
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where we didn't have to be. I couldn't agree with you more, Burgess. Let me turn to those
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options. We are a nuclear power, so is Russia. Putin, to his everlasting disgrace, has even
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raised the specter of nuclear war. I'd like to know what you think is the right way forward,
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if you've considered that. What is the smartest, most responsible, and what is in the greatest
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interest of the United States here? Okay. Well, first of all, American feet on the ground is not
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an option. What we can do, even though we're late to the party, and once again, our president is
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leading from behind, we can get to those great people, those courageous people, they quit what
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they need to do what they can as long as that option is available. Obviously, as Russia begins
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to encircle those cities, those options will become the United Strong. But the things we can do here
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is very simply, let's focus on our own national security. Let's focus on making sure that we're,
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once again, energy independent, that we're not paying despots like Putin to do what he's doing
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right now. If people can just think, just think about what it takes for us to have the energy
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that we need to be the leaders of the world, to help our friends out and need it. There's three
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spigots we can pull from. The one spigot is we can do it ourselves, self-sufficient. We have
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the resources, we have the innovation to truly become energy independent, where we can begin to lower
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the demand. We can lower the amount. In other words, we have enough here to take care of our
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needs and those around the world. That's the one spigot. The other spigot is from our friends,
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like Canada. That's what the Keystone Pipeline was all about, that we can bring energy in,
00:23:50.780
in a very clean way, in a very safe way, and make sure that we're, again, providing for
00:23:57.400
ourselves and others. The third spigot is to get from our enemies, those who hate us, those who
00:24:03.060
will raise the price and make sure that our economy is not running well. Which option did
00:24:07.560
Biden decide on? Self-sufficiency, our friends, our enemies? He decided to go with our enemies.
00:24:12.680
And it's sad to say that's as simple as it comes down to in terms of what's happened
00:24:16.520
when we shut down our ability to get from ourselves what we need and then go to and beg OPEC
00:24:24.220
or beg Russia to treat us right. So that's one area that we're going to understand and see in the
00:24:30.380
future. Things we can do very simply, we need to fast track our liquid LNC imports. We need to make
00:24:39.340
sure we're stopping the regulations that have been piled on top of us to stop energy development right
00:24:45.260
here. And we need to make sure we're not freezing the federal lands in which all this, the new oil and
00:24:51.340
gas projects can be handled. So those are just a few things. And by the way, it's beginning to
00:24:56.160
happen, Lou. We're actually in this process right now as we speak, we're putting together
00:25:01.260
legislation that's going to stop us buying oil from Russia. And even though the private sector is
00:25:06.020
already kind of leading the way in doing that, I think it's time for us as a nation, as a legislative
00:25:11.000
branch to make sure at House and the Senate that we don't buy one drop of oil from Russia as they
00:25:16.880
turn that oil into dollars to bombard these great people in Ukraine.
00:25:23.620
And I think all of that is an appropriate response to what is happening right now as a result of the
00:25:31.400
Russian invasion of Ukraine. And to Congressman Owens' points, let's recall specifically that this
00:25:39.440
president amongst his earliest acts was to stop the Keystone XL pipeline. That pipeline would have
00:25:46.980
brought in almost twice as much oil as we now import from Russia. He also lifted the sanctions on Russia
00:25:57.260
that President Trump had put in place against Russia. Again, that was amongst the very first acts
00:26:04.340
that he that he that he undertook. We are a country right now that has been led by a commander in
00:26:12.400
chief, a president who is not considering America first. He's not even considering America third,
00:26:20.500
fourth or fifth down the line. He is decidedly anti-American in the in the consequence of his
00:26:30.540
decisions. He doesn't really care. Obviously, our borders are wide open. He wants he wants to support
00:26:36.860
Ukraine in the protection of their borders, but not us. This is a poorly thought out, poorly run
00:26:43.520
administration. And frankly, I'm glad the administration doesn't run much better because
00:26:48.800
there's no trouble. There's no just no telling what kind of calamity would be visited upon us if these
00:26:56.040
people actually were energetic and were fulfilling that agenda that has been stopped at this point in
00:27:01.980
Congress. Where is the Republican Party, though, Congressman? It's we need leaders right now.
00:27:09.660
The Democrats here don't have them. And the Republican Party, we haven't heard from them on Ukraine
00:27:16.320
as one voice, one party. It's outrageous. Well, and this is kind of where I see it. First of all,
00:27:22.900
and sadly to say, and this is what America has to really understand, there truly are consequences
00:27:29.400
with our elections. And it's not a game. I think I think up to this point, many Americans just kind
00:27:35.400
of look at politics as they look at their football teams. You know, it's they just want their team to
00:27:39.840
win because they have the right uniform or they have the right coach. We're so far past it. We're
00:27:44.780
talking about freedom. We talk about the essence of our culture, everything that makes what makes
00:27:49.360
America work. This freedom bubble we live in every single day of our lives is something that we just
00:27:54.220
can't take for granted. So unfortunately, we're in a position where legislations are driven by the
00:28:00.560
Democratic Party. The message is being driven by the Democratic-run media. You see, so all the things
00:28:06.300
that we're up against, what the upside of where we are is that it doesn't matter where you are now,
00:28:13.560
what party you're in, we're all feeling the pain. One thing that happens with American people,
00:28:17.740
once we can come together and start having conversations like we're doing right now,
00:28:21.260
and I'll say that the greatest example of that, Lou, is what happened to CRT, what's happening
00:28:24.920
with our education system. These guys have been getting away with this for decades, attacking our
00:28:29.780
kids, turning our kids into anti-American Marxists. They've been doing it for a long time, but all of
00:28:34.560
a sudden, American people start waking up. And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle we're on,
00:28:38.300
when it comes to attacking our kids, moms and dads are all one in that particular process.
00:28:43.080
So all of a sudden, we're now having legislation that's coming through that's resonating. And I'll
00:28:50.980
say that the upside, if there's a silver lining on all the things that's happened with the Biden
00:28:58.940
administration and what's happening in Ukraine, is that American people are finally saying, you know
00:29:03.740
what, I'm not going to take your message of don't believe your lying eyes. I see it. I feel it. I know
00:29:08.680
what inflation looks like. I know the fear in my cities where crime is going crazy. I know the pain
00:29:14.040
of watching 100,000 other Americans die from fentanyl because of an open border. So these
00:29:19.880
things now are becoming very obvious. And I would just say, let's not lose hope in what we do when
00:29:27.960
we wake up. If I can give a message to Americans, sometimes it takes a while because of this freedom
00:29:35.020
bubble that's very robust. It's just habitual. It's like our next breath of air. But once we start
00:29:42.160
talking to each other, there's nothing more powerful than we the people. So just know that
00:29:48.700
we're in that process. There's a message that's coming out of the Republican Party. Now, it might
00:29:53.520
be tougher to hear because we don't own the airwaves. We have a few friends like you, Lou,
00:29:59.660
and others that get out there and get the message out. But the good thing is that, and I'll say this
00:30:06.120
from someone who came out of position and never thinking I would be a politician and decided to
00:30:11.380
be one just because I thought it may make a difference. I've never seen the engagement I've
00:30:15.780
seen across the country with Americans who in the past have been too busy doing their thing with
00:30:20.880
their kids, working for retirement. They're getting on the field of action like they never have
00:30:25.760
and saying, I'm going to take part in it. And now it's time for me to be present. So we're coming.
00:30:32.180
We're coming to the right place. We just have to just recognize it's going to take a while.
00:30:38.920
We can't just turn it overnight, unfortunately.
00:30:41.320
No, we can't. And I think the American people are mature enough, smart enough, adult enough to know
00:30:50.020
that this isn't going to be easy. It would behoove us to understand. In fact, it's going to require a
00:30:56.640
lot more of our energy. Some of the folks in your district and who are neighbors of ours in our
00:31:03.400
community are working endlessly. They're working two jobs, some of them three. Some of them can't
00:31:11.380
get work because now they can't afford a used car. There are all sorts of tough stories in every
00:31:18.820
community. But the folks who can make a difference have to make a difference. And by that, I'm not
00:31:25.600
talking about another federal program. I'm not talking about, even frankly, another state program.
00:31:31.320
I'm talking about people in their communities acting as neighbors in support of one another.
00:31:36.660
I say on this show constantly, you know, you can think as global as you like, as long as you're
00:31:43.820
acting local. But you've got to take care of what is most proximate. You've got to take care of the
00:31:52.480
business that is in front of you. And that business, I'm talking about your family, your loved ones,
00:31:58.040
your neighbors, your friends. You've got to take care of each other. And that means you've got to be
00:32:03.200
down at that city hall. You've got to go to those school board meetings. You've got to make a difference
00:32:08.820
in your own community. And there's just no other option available if we're going to restore this
00:32:19.340
Lou, you nailed it. You nailed it, Lou. And I'll say that for those who kind of wonder what's made
00:32:26.740
our country such a unique place, other than our foundation, our history, you know, the fact that
00:32:31.420
we began as a Judeo-Christian nation, what really helps us to continue to move forward throughout
00:32:37.620
each generation is something called empathy. And that empathy comes from going through the
00:32:43.540
experience ourselves at times. I mean, it's easy, and I'm going to go back to talk about school
00:32:48.940
choices, a good example. It's easy for moms and dads who live in a great neighborhood, who live in a
00:32:53.460
great zip code, to feel sympathy for those who can't. And they say, I would love to help you. I love,
00:32:58.540
but then they don't think about it again because it's not impacting them directly.
00:33:01.840
What happened over the last two years is that parents in those good zip codes realized their kids
00:33:07.340
are not getting educated. Their kids are being damaged. Their kids are committing suicide.
00:33:10.680
And all of a sudden, that empathy factor kicks in in a way that really resonates, that we now are
00:33:16.020
all in together. So as tough as it's been, if I can just encourage people to recognize, it's within
00:33:24.940
the DNA of Americans to have this sense of empathy. And then once we get it, we're people of action.
00:33:30.680
So yes, we're going to have more people that are going to the town hall meetings, that are standing up,
00:33:35.320
that are standing up against the cancel culture because realize that is not America at all.
00:33:41.340
And then once we come together, we have to realize the other side also. They're cowards and bullies.
00:33:46.780
The Marxists, the socialists, the ones that hide in bureaucracy, the ones that hide behind tenure,
00:33:51.500
the ones that hide behind their black mass that are white hoods, they're cowards and bullies.
00:33:56.460
And as we stand up, as we the people, they lose their power and they get frantic and they get afraid.
00:34:01.200
So that's what's happening now. I would just say this. Let's do what the left does not want us to do.
00:34:09.520
Let's have conversations. Let's be civil with each other. We might not agree on everything,
00:34:14.500
but what we can agree on is our country needs to move forward. Our kids need to have a better future.
00:34:19.740
The only way we can do that is to be patient, to have enough confidence in our way of thinking,
00:34:27.300
in our debate, our way we articulate ourselves, that we give people space. And if we do that to
00:34:32.300
each other, then we win. Very similar, by the way, very similar to the way we used to get together
00:34:37.740
football games. We could have a totally different size of the aisle, but boy, we put that same
00:34:43.160
uniform color on and support our team. We're high-fiving each other because that one moment,
00:34:48.620
we're thinking about something bigger than our differences. And I would say this is our time
00:34:52.800
as we go through these hard times and see this, the evil that's happening around the world because
00:34:57.840
of the freckleness of leadership here. Let's never ever look at politics and our politicians
00:35:05.180
as sports figures, as sports teams. This is life and death. We need to take this process serious,
00:35:12.600
have our conversations, be courageous enough that we can look at other channels and listen to other
00:35:17.180
people and have a conversation of how can we now move this thing forward. And I think we'll do a good
00:35:21.880
job for sure. I do too. I want to, in that regard, talk about something that happened with Lindsey
00:35:30.040
Graham, the Republican senator from South Carolina, calling for the assassination of Vladimir Putin.
00:35:40.300
As someone, as one of my colleagues put it, you know, I don't agree with the message,
00:35:45.880
but I wouldn't mind the result. And I understand that motivation, that thinking.
00:35:51.060
But for a U.S. Senator to say that in front of young people, students, kids growing up,
00:35:59.220
it is such a horrible signal to send to American youth for a senator thinking he's being cute to
00:36:08.240
say such a thing. He's pandering. And I'll say this about Lindsey Graham. I object to him. I don't
00:36:17.700
like the man. I don't like what he stands for or what he's done to this country with some of his
00:36:22.940
nonsense. But, you know, it's his right. He's a senator. He represents folks in South Carolina.
00:36:29.860
But that is just beneath what any senator should consider saying, any public official. And I,
00:36:37.740
Yeah. There's something that we have to always remember, again, particularly as we represent
00:36:42.120
our constituents. There are things we can say in private, things we might have wishes for,
00:36:48.060
but at the same time, we do represent not only our districts, our states, but our great country.
00:36:52.760
And that's just not the way we've ever resolved as a nation. Now, again, we have our leaders.
00:36:59.180
They make decisions based on what's best for our nation. They have classified conversations
00:37:06.020
based on what their leadership thinks was best for our country. But we have to be very careful
00:37:10.500
with our words, particularly as representatives. We all know that. And you're right. At the end of
00:37:16.760
the day, we need to leave it to the Russian people to deal with how they're going to deal with their
00:37:20.980
leaders. We, on the other hand, have to deal with our leaders, put our leaders, make sure our leaders
00:37:26.740
are being held accountable. And I would say that this is the time, and I want to segue for a quick
00:37:33.040
second, because I know it's very frustrating when we see things happening. And we want to happen
00:37:38.120
quickly. We totally do, because we see that we're not going in the right direction. There's never been
00:37:44.640
a better time for our nation to truly pull ourselves back from the abyss. You know, we have been fighting,
00:37:50.180
and we've seen this, we've had these conversations for decades. We've seen this drift,
00:37:54.840
progressive drift toward, away from freedom, where our kids now are coming out as hardened
00:38:01.300
Marxists and socialists and hating our country and debt and all that kind of stuff. Now is our time
00:38:06.760
as Americans to say, how do we get back to the way we were raised, where we can respectfully agree
00:38:13.000
to disagree? We don't pick up a brick or a stick when we don't agree with somebody. We have conversations
00:38:20.640
because we have enough confidence in our way of thinking. We need to get back to that, that point
00:38:25.020
of civility. And it's going to be up to the American people this next year to put, roll up
00:38:31.220
your sleeves and figure out how to get that done. Think about who we're electing from this point
00:38:35.740
moving forward. If we don't like, we're getting, what have we, what have we been presenting in the
00:38:40.440
past? Can we trust the left to keep their word and keep our country moving forward? If you don't,
00:38:45.920
if you agree with me, that the only way we move out of this is come back to our basic tenets of
00:38:50.600
God, family, faith, and education. That's the tenets that makes our country great. It doesn't
00:38:55.720
matter what, what culture, what, what community, if you put those, those tenets in there, their
00:39:00.800
community will thrive. Let's get back to that. Let's talk about it together. Let's not make it so
00:39:05.700
that we're divided, but every single word we say, because that's what the left wants, let's come
00:39:09.700
together and fight for our country in a way that, that Americans have done so well in the past.
00:39:13.380
I think those are wise words, Congressman, and I, and I agree again, a hundred percent. I also think
00:39:20.380
that we have to swear to ourselves to, to, to honor the American way. And what is the American way? A
00:39:29.300
lot of these young people ask, well, the American way has always been to treat one another as equals in
00:39:36.220
every instance, to respect one another, to depend on oneself, to be self-reliant, to, uh, to absolutely
00:39:46.220
accept individual responsibility, uh, and to be plain spoken and to always say what you mean and
00:39:54.060
mean what you say. It's, it's something that is not, it's not practiced widely. And that's a shame
00:40:01.340
because that's been one of the results of this mass media culture that we've created. Uh, and I,
00:40:07.760
and we need to change it. We've, and I love your, and I love your reference to education because
00:40:12.620
education, public education is the great equalizer of our society in so many ways. And it is so
00:40:19.380
important and it's too important to leave the two Marxist run teachers, uh, unions, uh, to tell
00:40:26.300
local school districts and parents that know they don't belong in a school board meeting, uh, and to
00:40:32.520
suggest to the justice department that they're actually domestic terrorists. If they raise their
00:40:37.320
voices, this is the level of ignorance that has grabbed gripped our public educational system.
00:40:44.680
Yeah. And that's, that's why my, my passion is my passion is education. It has been because my dad
00:40:50.660
was a college professor for 40 years. My mom was a high school teacher. So that's my passion. I'll just
00:40:55.620
say this to the point you made earlier, Lou. Uh, you know, we grew up, uh, during an era, you know,
00:41:00.320
we had parents, dads who came back from war. They were very proud of who we were. And in a day when
00:41:05.520
literally you shook somebody's hand, believe it or not, this used to be the way it was. You shake
00:41:10.720
somebody's hand and that was stronger than a whole team of lawyers because there's your word that was
00:41:15.640
on, on, on the head. Now, at that same time, we were talking about the golden rules. You treat people
00:41:20.080
right. You treat people how you want to be treated. Uh, at the same time, we're talking about how proud we were
00:41:25.180
of the history we had together as a country that we've come so far. And we, we looked at the, the,
00:41:30.980
the, how far we've come as a, as a point of pride. You know, and can I make, if I make this point,
00:41:36.140
I grew up in the sixties when, when, uh, you know, the, the big movie at that time was guess who's
00:41:41.920
coming to dinner because nobody had those days in those days with interracial dating, interracial
00:41:45.980
marriage. Well, my, my family today, six kids, five girls, one boy, we represent black, white,
00:41:51.980
Hispanic, American Indian, and Trinidadian. That is what America is about. It's called family.
00:41:57.580
Well, it's a one family. I love it. But that's America. That's where we are until we, unless we
00:42:04.240
let the left have it where I'm now dividing my kids based on our color. And that will never,
00:42:09.420
ever happen. So we need to recognize as Americans, we are family. Let's not go the route of looking at
00:42:15.360
each other from outside in instead of inside out. And that way, that's the way God looks at us.
00:42:20.280
We will find the best in each other. We want to be the best for each other. And that process will,
00:42:25.440
we'll get our country back. It'll be a process we have to fight for, but it's worth the fight.
00:42:30.360
And I think we're in a position that we're more people realizing that this is where we need to
00:42:34.200
be at this point for sure. Yeah. I think that that's a wonderful sentiment and thanks for sharing
00:42:40.080
it with this audience. It's, uh, it's, it's where Americans live. I mean, that's, uh, you talk about
00:42:46.340
as American as apple pie, which you've just described is as American as it gets. And it's,
00:42:53.660
it's who we are. And one of the things that I, I really, I want to, to really beg everyone for is
00:43:01.320
the truth and to understand what is truth and what is not, uh, truth isn't, you know, obviously truth
00:43:07.600
is they say dying in, uh, uh, in the first minutes of war, but the truth is truth, uh, has been,
00:43:14.960
uh, is, is being murdered in every part of this country too. Uh, truth is, is reviled by the very
00:43:22.700
people who should be spreading truth. And that is our, our corporate owned mass media. It's,
00:43:28.800
it's disgusting and it's horrible. And, and we've got too many people who accept what's happening
00:43:34.260
on a radio or a TV show or a newspaper or a magazine is, uh, is representing anything as
00:43:41.360
resembling truth. Uh, and we've just got to insist on and demand truth, uh, particularly of this
00:43:49.480
administration of both political parties, uh, and ourselves for that matter. Yeah. And, and, uh,
00:43:57.260
I think the key to that point, and you're so right, uh, we've been trimming our kids being
00:44:01.840
been told that we have our own separate truths and, uh, no, that's not the way it works. I mean,
00:44:06.820
you have the law of gravity. There's a truth in the law on gravity, which is you jump off the
00:44:10.820
building. I don't care what law you pass in Congress. There's going to be a, a, a, a reckoning
00:44:15.680
and you can feel that it's not fair all the way down to the ground, but it is a reckoning that it's a
00:44:21.480
truth is a gravity. Uh, what goes up must come down. Uh, we have to, we have to get back to those,
00:44:26.500
those type of, of, of understanding and not allow the left to, to take their vision of the way truth
00:44:35.920
works and, and, and just spread it all over the place. Uh, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm excited about
00:44:40.840
where we are. Uh, I, you know, I, I think, you know, when I, when I, when I think about what I was
00:44:45.760
trained, the basic concepts that I was trained when I was growing up as a young man, I, I can't say
00:44:51.020
enough about it. I was taught to love God, country, family, respect women, and authority. Think about
00:44:56.360
how simple that formula is for those early days when things weren't going right well in terms of
00:45:01.900
assimilation, but every culture felt the same way. Respect for God, family, country, women,
00:45:08.060
and authority. And we get our young, young men thinking that way again, um, uh, standing for
00:45:12.980
those values again, uh, the left doesn't have a chance. And so we have to make sure we do that
00:45:17.320
and to be proud of it. Uh, let's stop looking at each other the way the left wants us to look at each
00:45:21.480
other. Embrace those who bring you value that make you feel good, that encourage you stay away
00:45:28.160
from those who bring darkness at the end of the day, turn the darkness off and let's continue to
00:45:33.180
drift toward the light. And we'll be in good shape for sure. Absolutely. Congressman, it is great to
00:45:38.320
always talking with you. I hope you, uh, can come back soon. Uh, we know you're making a difference,
00:45:43.940
uh, not only, uh, in your community, uh, and your district, uh, but in the United States Congress and
00:45:51.380
your nation. And we're deeply appreciative, uh, for you, uh, serving the, the nation, uh, and wish
00:45:59.020
you all of the very best. God bless. Thank you. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, Congressman Owens,
00:46:04.220
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00:46:09.500
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