The Great America Show - SEN. RAND PAUL AND TRUMP ATTORNEY KURT OLSEN ON THE QUESTION, WILL THE DEMS DO IT AGAIN？

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show.

00:00:04.920 Thanks for being with us.

00:00:05.960 It turns out the Biden administration may be as upset as China's leaders

00:00:11.060 that Speaker Nancy Pelosi had the guts to go to Taiwan

00:00:14.880 and announce that the United States would support Taiwan and its people.

00:00:20.960 The Chinese Communist PLA then fired off missiles over or near both Taiwan and Japan,

00:00:27.480 put on live-fire military exercises all around Taiwan and in the Taiwan Straits.

00:00:34.140 All in all, a highly produced and coordinated military version of a hissy fit,

00:00:39.360 and more may be yet to come.

00:00:41.840 Some fireworks as well in Tuesday's primary elections,

00:00:45.540 but the main event has surely been Arizona,

00:00:48.340 where highly favored and poll leader from start to finish Carrie Lake

00:00:52.380 has, of right now, a razor-thin 2% lead over her opponent.

00:00:58.080 But it is clear Maricopa County is 2022's version of Cook County, Illinois,

00:01:04.220 where the political establishment keeps proving they are as crooked as can be.

00:01:09.340 Lake should pull it out, but who knows?

00:01:11.760 All the other races going to America First candidates,

00:01:15.360 a great night for MAGA candidates in all five states holding primaries Tuesday.

00:01:20.240 Our guests today are Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, seeking his third term,

00:01:25.920 a constitutional conservative who supported President Trump,

00:01:29.280 who is also a physician and great American,

00:01:32.220 and conservative attorney Kurt Olson, who has represented President Trump,

00:01:36.700 and the inventor of MyPillow, Mike Lindell.

00:01:40.100 We turn first to Senator Paul, whose views on vaccines, the NIH and FDA,

00:01:46.040 and Dr. Anthony Fauci have proved correct and prescient.

00:01:51.160 Great to have you back with us, Senator, and welcome.

00:01:54.760 Let me ask you first for your reaction to Dr. Fauci's decision,

00:01:58.580 his apparent decision, to retire from his current job,

00:02:02.900 somewhere around 2025, it seems.

00:02:06.720 Well, you know, we're planning a big send-off.

00:02:09.400 We're thinking of a big retirement party for him.

00:02:12.220 We're thinking maybe, though, instead of a gold watch,

00:02:15.120 that we get him a pair of silver bracelets, you know, one-free tryst.

00:02:20.100 But, no, seriously, before he goes, we do have a few questions,

00:02:25.400 and we'd like them answered under oath.

00:02:27.720 He says he's not leaving until, you know, Biden's administration's over,

00:02:31.320 and I think in November there's a very good chance

00:02:34.760 that we'll be able to subpoena the records that he's been withholding.

00:02:37.620 There's quite a bit of records he's withholding.

00:02:40.640 He's withholding the royalties that all scientists receive.

00:02:44.840 1,800 scientists at the NIH, CDC, FDA received $193 million

00:02:50.900 over about an 8- to 10-year period.

00:02:53.520 And he says, well, the law says they don't have to reveal this.

00:02:57.220 And my response is I'd be a little more comforted

00:02:59.660 if I knew that the people on the vaccine committee

00:03:02.000 were not receiving royalties from the vaccine makers,

00:03:06.520 and there's no response.

00:03:07.900 And if you're not going to respond, it just makes us doubtful

00:03:10.180 about whether or not these people might have a conflict of interest.

00:03:14.000 I know that you've dealt with this issue for some time.

00:03:18.500 I think this audience would love to understand

00:03:21.580 how it came to be that Dr. Fauci and others at NIH

00:03:27.040 would have this amazing, extraordinary exemption from oversight

00:03:32.700 as well as, indeed, the windfall of money for these patents.

00:03:43.520 You know, I think the fact that he's been there for 41 years,

00:03:47.100 you know, he knows where everything is.

00:03:49.780 He has the complete power over the funding.

00:03:51.920 He's, you know, in a domain where he's unchallenged.

00:03:56.280 And I think there's fear.

00:03:58.080 And that fear has led to a lack of dissent

00:04:00.760 and a lack of questioning and a lack of transparency.

00:04:03.980 So one of the things I think we ought to do

00:04:06.140 is make his position one that has to be approved by the Senate

00:04:09.180 because it has so much power.

00:04:10.920 But I actually put an amendment in,

00:04:12.680 and we voted on it the other day in committee,

00:04:14.420 to divide his position into three,

00:04:17.060 eliminate him as the current occupant,

00:04:19.140 divide it into three and make that position then

00:04:22.600 that it has to be approved by the Senate.

00:04:25.540 And didn't get any Democrat support.

00:04:28.140 That didn't surprise me.

00:04:29.180 But I actually lost five or six of the Republicans on the committee,

00:04:31.960 and that was sort of demoralizing.

00:04:35.200 Well, like you, we are skeptics about different things

00:04:39.100 and some of the same things.

00:04:42.100 But on this one, I am a born skeptic.

00:04:45.100 I didn't have much doubt that there would be

00:04:47.300 a number of your liberal colleagues in your party

00:04:50.220 who would go along with the Democrats.

00:04:52.920 Let's turn, if I may, to the economy.

00:04:56.600 Commerce Secretary Raimondo saying,

00:04:58.800 inflation's global due to war, COVID, and we'll fix it.

00:05:03.740 I guess there's a reason they haven't fixed it yet.

00:05:07.520 Well, at least they're no longer arguing that it's transitory.

00:05:11.300 I was wondering what the definition was.

00:05:13.420 You know, we've had it for over a year now,

00:05:16.000 and everybody kept saying it's transitory.

00:05:18.040 But I don't think they still have a full understanding

00:05:20.240 of what causes inflation.

00:05:21.840 And I think people need to be informed,

00:05:24.420 re-informed, and re-explained that inflation comes from debt.

00:05:28.280 And it's when the Federal Reserve purchases the debt,

00:05:30.800 they create new currency.

00:05:32.640 So for the last three years, the M2,

00:05:34.860 which is a measure of the money supply,

00:05:36.360 has been going up to about 15% a year.

00:05:38.480 And last January, it was actually going up

00:05:41.600 at an annualized rate of 27%.

00:05:43.540 So if you increase the money supply,

00:05:45.860 chasing the same amount of goods, you get inflation.

00:05:48.500 And it's important to know that

00:05:49.920 because the Biden administration then tells us

00:05:52.200 the answer is to borrow more money.

00:05:54.120 And it's actually the opposite of the answer.

00:05:56.240 We should quit digging the hole so deep.

00:05:58.600 And we actually have to realize what happened the last time

00:06:02.220 we had a big inflationary cycle in late 1970s.

00:06:04.860 It wasn't pretty.

00:06:06.740 It ended in recession and double-digit inflation

00:06:09.660 and double-digit interest rates.

00:06:12.620 And it's unclear at this point

00:06:13.840 exactly what will be the outcome

00:06:16.400 of this inflationary cycle

00:06:19.280 because, as you say, definitively,

00:06:22.180 it is an inflationary cycle,

00:06:25.320 which, by the way, at least at the wholesale level,

00:06:27.340 is now in double digits,

00:06:29.100 qualifying for hyperinflation as far as I'm concerned.

00:06:32.500 Let me turn as well to this Brian Deese

00:06:36.980 because it's one thing for a president

00:06:39.300 who's obviously impaired not to understand 0.99

00:06:41.880 the economy, economics, and the forces at work.

00:06:45.760 But Brian Deese, the head of the president's

00:06:48.580 economic council,

00:06:50.940 talking about passing the Senate trillion-dollar spending bill

00:06:55.620 so that they can fight inflation,

00:06:58.500 that kind of non-sequitur,

00:07:00.280 I did not expect from an economic advisor,

00:07:03.460 let alone the head of the economic council.

00:07:08.180 Your reaction?

00:07:10.180 Well, it goes to a fundamental misunderstanding of inflation.

00:07:13.360 You know, if they don't understand it comes from debt,

00:07:15.240 then they just want to add more debt.

00:07:17.080 Look, the California governor thinks

00:07:18.640 that passing out more free checks

00:07:20.280 will get through the inflation.

00:07:22.180 You know, they're going to pass out free inflation checks

00:07:24.200 when the inflation that we have

00:07:25.840 is from passing out free checks.

00:07:27.260 So they just really fundamentally don't get it.

00:07:30.500 In addition to wanting to borrow more money,

00:07:32.640 they also say that,

00:07:33.780 why don't we have a new tax on small business? 0.99

00:07:36.040 They want a 3.8% tax on all pass-through businesses.

00:07:40.580 And I was told the other day

00:07:41.860 that of the 26 million pass-through businesses

00:07:45.320 or 26 million small businesses in our country,

00:07:48.240 about 25 million of them are pass-throughs.

00:07:51.300 These are typically S-corps. 0.99

00:07:53.980 And if we do a 3.8% income tax or new tax on them,

00:07:59.780 in addition to the inflationary problems they're having,

00:08:02.940 that it's going to kill a lot of small businesses and jobs.

00:08:05.520 So they really just don't get it.

00:08:07.500 But this is what elections are about.

00:08:08.920 People have to decide,

00:08:09.820 do you want to reelect people

00:08:11.180 who want to borrow more money to fix inflation

00:08:13.860 or want to raise taxes to fix an impending recession?

00:08:17.220 And I think, really, most people think those are boneheaded ideas.

00:08:22.460 Boneheaded ideas.

00:08:23.620 You say they don't get it.

00:08:25.160 I'm afraid that this administration,

00:08:28.040 this president, all of his advisors, the cabinet,

00:08:31.120 I just don't think they give a damn at this point.

00:08:34.160 What do you think?

00:08:36.380 I think the hard part for them is,

00:08:38.460 is that probably in private,

00:08:40.440 like a few of the different economists,

00:08:43.000 you know, that are embarrassed by some of these comments coming,

00:08:45.320 have actually admitted that, you know,

00:08:47.520 the spending package is that they spent too much,

00:08:49.780 and that's what's causing this rip-roaring inflation.

00:08:52.500 So the ones who aren't willing to admit it, though,

00:08:54.680 because it goes against what their policy is,

00:08:57.320 I think that they probably, 0.93

00:08:58.940 you would think they're not complete ignoramuses,

00:09:01.160 that they understand this in private, 0.74

00:09:03.320 but they can't make the argument

00:09:04.800 because the argument goes against all the things they're for,

00:09:07.620 and this is how they gain power,

00:09:09.240 by giving more money away.

00:09:11.020 Constituent groups love money,

00:09:12.460 so they give them money,

00:09:13.380 and that's how they buy their votes.

00:09:15.400 But if people were to someday wake up and find out,

00:09:17.920 oh, my goodness,

00:09:18.660 they say they're for the poor and the working class,

00:09:21.160 but inflation is killing the poor and the working class,

00:09:23.960 all of a sudden they may lose a constituency.

00:09:26.060 So they have to sort of misdirect,

00:09:28.440 say it's the Republicans,

00:09:29.980 or say it's the oil companies,

00:09:31.740 or say the prices are too high

00:09:33.580 because the people selling us stuff are charging too much.

00:09:36.740 And I think that maybe there's just misdirection,

00:09:40.460 and they're just being disingenuous. 1.00

00:09:43.080 They're not foolish or stupid. 0.99

00:09:45.340 They understand the economics, 1.00

00:09:46.700 but they just know that to admit it would be to admit that their policy is causing it.

00:09:51.360 And there has been no sign that they're willing to do that,

00:09:54.440 which is also raising deep concerns amongst millions of Americans

00:10:00.580 that the reason they're not concerned is that we're looking at the prospect of another rigged election.

00:10:05.840 Do you think that could be the case?

00:10:09.320 You know, I think that they are concerned about the election.

00:10:12.960 I think they will try, like all get out,

00:10:15.600 to turn out and vote that may or may not exist,

00:10:20.140 may or may not be real.

00:10:21.980 And I think they'll do it in the cities they control.

00:10:23.960 I think that the Zuckerberg $450 million,

00:10:28.400 unfortunately that's going to go back to some states.

00:10:30.840 Again, Wisconsin tried to pass a law prohibiting it,

00:10:33.420 and their Democrat governor vetoed it.

00:10:35.440 In Kentucky, in my state, our great state legislature banned Zuckerberg bucks,

00:10:40.480 and I think they did in several other states.

00:10:42.700 So we'll see.

00:10:43.620 It's going to be a state-by-state basis.

00:10:45.560 In some states, like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania,

00:10:47.920 I don't think they passed any reform.

00:10:49.640 So there's going to be this question, will they be able to cheat again?

00:10:53.600 And I don't think there's enough cheating for them to win, to tell you the truth.

00:10:57.580 I mean, it takes an extraordinary amount of cheating,

00:10:59.880 but I don't know if there is enough cheating to win when everybody's paying five, six bucks for gas

00:11:05.600 and people are suffering and Biden's approval ratings are under 30%.

00:11:10.060 But I am a big believer in watching them.

00:11:13.500 And, you know, people sometimes throw up their arms, like, what should I do?

00:11:16.620 Should I even bother to vote?

00:11:17.880 But volunteer to be a precinct watcher.

00:11:20.340 Sit at the desk with the Democrat in the precinct

00:11:23.260 and make sure the same amount of people that come in

00:11:25.840 are the same amount of people that are in the book.

00:11:29.280 And there's enough balance at the end of the day that they equal the people in the book.

00:11:32.900 There are some checks and balances that you can do in person.

00:11:36.960 And I think it's worthwhile for everybody to still try to participate in watching

00:11:41.340 and making sure the election is as honest as we can make it.

00:11:44.000 Yeah, I urge everybody listening to this podcast to do so, to volunteer at every level in every role

00:11:52.200 so that we do have countervailing influences of some kind at the most important level,

00:11:58.300 and that's the local level when it comes to an election.

00:12:01.120 I would also like to ask, Kentucky, I understand, for the first time has more Republicans than Democrats registered.

00:12:10.360 Is that true?

00:12:12.220 This is a big deal.

00:12:13.420 First time since, you know, maybe forever.

00:12:16.060 I mean, in the days of Andrew Jackson, you know, west of I-65 didn't exist,

00:12:21.420 but the western part of our state was the Gibraltar of the south.

00:12:25.360 It was the solidest Democrat you've ever had.

00:12:28.080 And even when my wife and I were first married in the early 1990s, still was solidly Democrat.

00:12:34.680 Every state rep, every state senator, and the registration in the western part of the state.

00:12:39.580 Now I think we have one Democrat elected in the western part of the state in the state legislature.

00:12:45.300 Everything's Republican.

00:12:46.660 The local county judge executives are flipping to Republican.

00:12:50.740 And you're right.

00:12:51.660 We finally now have a majority of registered Republicans, which is a good sign because there's still quite a few conservative Democrats

00:12:59.100 that just haven't switched their registration yet.

00:13:01.220 But we still get, you know, probably 10 percent of those still registered Democrats are voting Republican

00:13:07.360 because the national Democrats have become too crazy for local people.

00:13:10.680 That's a juxtaposition I haven't heard in a long time.

00:13:15.760 Conservatives and Democrats.

00:13:17.920 My goodness.

00:13:18.960 I didn't know the species was not extinct.

00:13:24.380 Well, I'll give you an example.

00:13:25.840 My wife's parents were registered Democrats, and I was running for office in 2009.

00:13:31.120 I said, well, I'm running for office.

00:13:32.280 And they said, well, we'll vote for you in the fall.

00:13:34.260 And I said, well, I may not make the fall.

00:13:36.360 I need you to register as Republicans.

00:13:37.900 And, by the way, when's the last time you voted for a Democrat for president?

00:13:41.460 And Kelly's mom, who grew up Catholic, said, well, Kennedy.

00:13:45.540 And I said, well, that's been quite a while.

00:13:47.800 And the Democrats are not much for cutting taxes anymore.

00:13:51.500 And she agreed.

00:13:53.000 And so we got on to switch.

00:13:54.180 But a lot of people don't switch just out of their politics were always kind of conservative.

00:13:58.100 But they lived in the South, and there was no Republican primary, and there was no real –

00:14:02.100 everybody just told you you had to register as a Democrat, and everybody did.

00:14:06.180 And so now people have caught wind.

00:14:09.400 And, I mean, really, literally, you know, we got Democrats supporting drag queens, dancing for first graders.

00:14:15.480 We got them giving picture books on how your kindergartner can change their sex. 0.86

00:14:19.200 The National Democrats have become so bizarre and weird that no self-respecting Southern Democrat wants to be a Democrat anymore.

00:14:27.560 I can't imagine why any self-respecting American would put up with the insanity, the irrationality of the left in this country.

00:14:38.460 Because it is – really, they are parading mental illness in the public square and calling it policy and ideology, philosophy, and they want to make it regulation and law.

00:14:51.480 It seems if ever there were a time for a tsunami, not a wave, but a tsunami, this would be the year.

00:15:00.180 But your thought about the state of the body politics brain right now.

00:15:06.640 Well, I think we are in for a shift.

00:15:11.920 And I think that some of these things you're starting to see, you know, some of the more traditional Democrats worrying that there's too much discussion of, you know, having the black kids sit on one side and the white kids sit on the other side as critical race craziness.

00:15:27.060 This sort of idea that somehow some kind of new segregation is a way to teach people about the difference between the races.

00:15:34.540 And the absurdity of that, the absurdity of drag queens in our school, the absurdity of people letting, you know, a six-foot-three boy swim in the women's or girls swimming meet in college. 0.99

00:15:46.400 That stuff is so bizarre that you're finding even people who want to say, well, I don't really like the Republicans, but the Democrats are too damn crazy anymore. 0.86

00:15:54.480 I think that is – that's going to hurt them.

00:15:57.120 And I think that's – and you add in the inflation and you wonder how they could possibly win.

00:16:02.260 The only possibility is that there's still sort of a divide between workers and non-workers, and I think the Republican Party has convinced people who work that their money is more frugally looked after by Republicans.

00:16:16.960 And I think that's something that has to keep going, and we have to keep trying to expand our workforce to have more people in it that realize the importance of work and the importance of having frugality in government.

00:16:26.520 But I think something big is happening, and I appreciate you having me on.

00:16:30.160 I'm going to have to run, but thanks a lot for having me on, Lou.

00:16:32.840 You got it always, Senator.

00:16:34.580 Good to talk with you.

00:16:35.600 All the best.

00:16:36.620 Thanks.

00:16:37.240 Thanks.

00:16:38.800 Always good to have Senator Rand Paul with us.

00:16:41.220 And now we're joined by conservative attorney Kurt Olson, who's a former Navy SEAL, who's represented President Donald Trump and my pillow founder, Mike Lindell.

00:16:51.760 Kurt, delighted to have you with us here on The Great America Show.

00:16:55.020 I want to start with the Biden administration's efforts to evade the effect of the Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade,

00:17:03.280 where they're trying to codify Roe v. Wade or the Biden DOJ taking on state abortion restrictions or even bans.

00:17:13.300 Yeah, I mean, I think it's important to recognize that the Supreme Court ruling in the Dobbs case did not take away abortion.

00:17:22.000 It merely sent it back to the states for the voters and the representatives of those states to decide how they want to proceed within their own state.

00:17:32.920 And so the Supreme Court didn't say that abortion is illegal. 0.75

00:17:37.060 They just said, states, this is your decision.

00:17:40.140 There is nothing in the Constitution that speaks one way or the other about abortion.

00:17:44.980 And what you're seeing with the Biden administration in their attempt to codify is really to take away people's rights to vote on this issue themselves.

00:17:55.900 And you're exactly right.

00:17:57.720 This is a Marxist type or fascist type dictatorship where the federal government is trying to once again dictate to the people an issue that is quintessentially a state issue.

00:18:11.600 And we're seeing authoritarian impulses, to put it kindly, throughout the Biden administration.

00:18:19.300 The number of executive orders, administrative orders that he's issued, everything from the, if you will, reversing President Trump's border policies,

00:18:31.200 including the remain in Mexico policy with the Supreme Court, by the way, just upheld today. 0.57

00:18:36.300 We're seeing a president who is obviously so impaired that he is little more than a puppet.

00:18:45.040 But those who are his masters are insisting upon a decidedly left-wing turn for the entire country, whether it be legislatively or whether it be through executive fiat.

00:18:59.560 It is a remarkable thing to witness and a chilling, chilling development.

00:19:05.180 It is, and I think it's important to recognize not just the mechanism by which these policies are being instituted, for example,

00:19:13.860 via executive order or administrative order and so forth.

00:19:17.800 It's what is the effect of those policies?

00:19:20.960 And so why on earth would anybody who wants to, loves this country, as a patriot, wants to preserve what this country is all about,

00:19:31.740 why would you have an open border policy, for example?

00:19:35.180 Why would you give $45 billion to Ukraine, ostensibly for their military, but there's no audit of that money?

00:19:44.480 We'll never know where exactly it goes, yet deny even a penny to help small businesses.

00:19:50.980 And it really does seem like this administration is almost at war with the American people.

00:19:57.460 It does seem that way, and it may seem that way because they are at war with the American people and with our very values and institutions.

00:20:09.000 They have effectively become an armed extension, they being the FBI, an armed extension of the Marxist-led Democrat Party.

00:20:19.860 Yeah, no, there are some very troubling instances.

00:20:25.120 It's, you know, I'm a former SEAL.

00:20:27.580 I actually, some of the folks that I work with, you know, went to the FBI.

00:20:33.080 Some of them were at their HRT, their hostage rescue team.

00:20:36.240 And it's surprising to me that the FBI is sending out SWAT teams to go serve warrants on people like Paul Manafort or Stone.

00:20:52.200 I mean, these are, you know, elderly gentlemen.

00:20:53.820 They're no threat to society, certainly not violent.

00:20:56.600 Or Peter Navarro, former president of Trump's assistant.

00:20:59.900 And Tina Peters, who you may have heard about, who is the former clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who found what she thought was election fraud and took it upon herself in that case to preserve an image, a forensic image of the computerized voting system there.

00:21:23.060 It's called the election management system.

00:21:24.560 And what she uncovered is quite stunning, including that Dominion, with the Secretary of State's blessing, Jenna Griswold, who is supported by George Soros, that they overwrote the entire operating system and destroying all auditable logs about what went on in the elections.

00:21:43.520 Among other things, there's also evidence that there is actual machine manipulation that's going on there.

00:21:49.060 Within this machine, it's been discovered that there were magically two new databases that were created with no apparent authorization or mechanism to do so.

00:22:02.140 And then the select migration of digital ballots.

00:22:05.800 And I don't want to get too much in the weeds, but I wanted to explain that because as a consequence of that, the FBI started raiding people's houses.

00:22:13.920 And Sharona Bishop, who is an activist for election integrity, her house was raided.

00:22:21.700 Her door was bashed in with a battering ram. 0.93

00:22:24.560 Her daughter was taken out down the stairs by her hoodie. 0.97

00:22:29.060 And she, the FBI, with SWAT teams, took all their electronics, didn't charge anybody.

00:22:36.100 And they've done that to several other people.

00:22:39.080 And we're talking Belinda Nicely, who was a Tina Peters clerk.

00:22:45.080 She's a 70-year-old grandmother, and they sent an FBI SWAT team out for her.

00:22:49.280 And it does seem to be pure intimidation and a weaponization of the FBI and the Department of Justice.

00:22:56.520 Would the men that you served with in special warfare, with the SEALs, would they have taken an order to do something like that?

00:23:09.360 None that I worked with.

00:23:12.300 So I certainly would not have.

00:23:14.700 Yeah.

00:23:16.000 This FBI is made up of people I don't recognize.

00:23:20.000 I've worked as a young reporter closely with the FBI.

00:23:23.860 I've known a number of agents for whom I have immense respect, the former veterans.

00:23:33.640 And I can't even imagine, first of all, that they would carry out such an order to their men.

00:23:38.840 I couldn't imagine their men doing such a thing.

00:23:44.180 We're at a different point in our history.

00:23:47.620 And I don't think most of us can quite grasp what is happening and why.

00:23:53.860 Well, I think what you're seeing is it's not just one act like this.

00:23:59.380 It's a swarm of acts.

00:24:01.360 And I think that's intentional.

00:24:03.160 So when you're seeing, for example, we talked about the weaponization of the FBI to go run after folks like Roger Stone and Paul Manafort who present no threat.

00:24:12.980 Or you can look at drag queen shows for little kids, CRT, the fact that we cut off our domestic energy production.

00:24:22.920 And then blame the rise in prices or attempt to blame the rise in prices on Putin's war in Ukraine.

00:24:30.060 There are so many attacks, and what it does is it keeps people off balance and unsure of what to do next or to know how this is all coming about.

00:24:40.660 I think it's actually intentional that you're seeing this panoply of acts that are undermining the family unit, the societal unit, the governmental institutions that exist.

00:24:52.920 I think it's all part of a coordinated effort.

00:24:57.420 And by definition, we're talking about a Marxist initiative within the Democrat Party.

00:25:05.500 Indeed, Marxist Dems seem to be driving the leadership of the Democrat Party.

00:25:13.360 What is not clear to me, amongst many things, but amongst those many things, what is not clear to me is why we once said of the FBI, no matter what happened, but for the most part, the FBI is made up of great Americans, wonderful, wonderful Americans doing their jobs.

00:25:35.820 We no longer hear that because no one has stepped forward, not a whistleblower, not a single person has informed on the FBI, even as they lied and persecuted knowingly an innocent president and accused him of collusion with the Russians.

00:25:56.100 A disinformation campaign created and a conspiracy fostered by none other than his political opponent in the election of 2016, Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee and the law firm for the Democratic National Committee of the Democratic Party, Perkins Coy.

00:26:14.740 A conspiracy this vast, this broad, and this deep within the deep state, I don't have – I've had people say to me, what do you mean, deep state?

00:26:29.720 And I've said to them, explained to them for years, but I have to say even I would not have imagined that it was this pervasive and this animated within our federal government.

00:26:41.280 Well, I think it's grown over time, and there's clear evidence, and so I would point you to – there is a FISA court judge, her name is Judge Collier, she issued in April of 2017 a 99-page opinion, somewhat redacted, but that opinion arose out of the circumstance where Admiral Mike Rogers,

00:27:08.940 who was then head of the NSA uncovered the FBI, who was then head of the NSA, uncovered the FBI utilizing NSA tools to surveil illegally people like those in the Trump administration and those who worked within his orbit.

00:27:23.100 And when he reported it, they conducted an investigation, and it went up to Judge Collier, and it's all documented in this FISA court opinion, again, a 99-page opinion.

00:27:37.660 And what the court found there were there were third-party contractors that the FBI was using to surveil and spy on thousands and thousands of Americans, and it went back to as early as 2012.

00:27:52.760 And what they found, and this is the judge's opinion, and I would encourage everybody to look this up and read it.

00:28:00.400 It's quite stunning.

00:28:01.800 I believe it was over 85% of these quote-unquote search queries, and these are using NSA tools that can uncover any conversation we have,

00:28:10.920 whether it's a text message, a voicemail, a cell phone call, an email, the surveillance capabilities of our government to know everything we do is stunning.

00:28:24.600 And the FBI was misusing that through third-party contractors, and then we just found out who was that likely third-party contractor.

00:28:34.800 It was the law firm of Perkins Coie, who had essentially a SCIF in their office to use these NSA tools to go after political opponents.

00:28:46.560 And you can't make this stuff up.

00:28:48.520 It's straight out of a—it's almost like a, you know, a Patterson novel.

00:28:54.600 And when you talk about the SCIF, the portal inside Perkins Coie, the law firm, the Democratic law firm, I don't know of an analog.

00:29:04.840 I don't know of a Republican firm that had an FBI portal.

00:29:09.000 I don't know of—but at the same time, I don't know how many of these FBI portals are in Democratic law firms around the country.

00:29:19.080 But I would suspect there are far more in the Democrat law firms than there are certainly in Republican.

00:29:26.420 How—let me ask you this way.

00:29:29.700 We've been reporting on this relationship between the Democrats and the FBI for quite some time.

00:29:36.160 But give us your sense of just how this came to be, how pervasive do you think it is, and is it an absolute relationship that is one that is permanent and fixed and not likely to change?

00:29:55.300 In terms of how it came about, I think it, you know, the digitization of information over the past 30 years has provided an opportunity, particularly with the tools that have become available for surveillance and control.

00:30:17.300 Some might even say blackmail and other, you know, the ability to ferret out information that has grown exponentially.

00:30:27.080 And the temptation to use or misuse those capabilities are what has led us to the point where we're at.

00:30:35.360 And I would not lay all blame at the feet of the Democrats.

00:30:41.660 I think, you know, with all these revelations that we're hearing about now, where are the Republicans?

00:30:47.300 I mean, there's a few that have come out.

00:30:49.720 But by and large, you know, they've been silent.

00:30:52.980 And you would think they would be screaming from the hilltops that Perkins Coie had a portal using—working with the FBI to do a political spying operation.

00:31:03.320 And why isn't—you know, why aren't they screaming, like I said, from the mountaintop?

00:31:08.120 Well, one of the reasons might be that the FBI in absolute league with the Democrat Party would be a fairly chilling prospect for anyone in the Republican Party.

00:31:21.960 A party, by the way, its leadership is not exactly made up of, you know, silver and bronze star winners and extraordinarily courageous American patriots. 0.79

00:31:33.920 They are the establishment, and they are cowardly to the extreme.

00:31:39.660 It seems to be a litmus test that they have to pass to go into the RNC. 0.91

00:31:45.420 Yeah.

00:31:46.020 I mean, I think that, you know, the establishment, you know, what you heighten is—involves both parties.

00:31:50.780 It's about power and control and preserving the benefits that they have attained, you know, by virtue of their positions.

00:32:00.960 And much of this has been going on for the past few years without—you know, the average person, you know, they're busy carrying on their lives.

00:32:08.320 They've basically outsourced their—the function of keeping security and, you know, what's going on in terms of the direction of the country and economic policy.

00:32:20.560 Much of that has just been outsourced to those that they think are going to be good stewards.

00:32:25.220 Even if they're a Democrat or Republican, they don't think that they're actually going to actively subvert the interests of the country, you know, on a broad scale.

00:32:35.160 But that, I believe, is what has actually happened, and we're seeing it now.

00:32:40.540 Yeah, there's no question.

00:32:42.560 For the six months that—the last six months of President Trump's campaign, in which the FBI aggressively, actively tried to frame and then succeeded as soon as President Trump was elected,

00:32:59.400 in framing General Michael Flynn, Lieutenant General Flynn, was framed.

00:33:05.160 By the FBI, and those were, obviously, James Comey carrying out his orders.

00:33:12.120 We know that the entire intelligence apparatus—well, I shouldn't say the entire intelligence apparatus.

00:33:17.580 We know that the principal chiefs of the principal—the chiefs of the principal agencies, and by that I mean the FBI, National Security Division, the CIA, the NSA—all were involved in a plot to, in point of fact, either stymie or overthrow President Trump.

00:33:42.140 You bring up with what you're saying an interesting question, Admiral Mike Rogers of the NSA.

00:33:49.280 What we don't hear a lot of discussion about and what we don't see much coverage of, and that can mean many things, as you know, but Admiral Rogers and, before him, General Keith Alexander,

00:34:02.280 their names have not been in any way associated with that metadata that the NSA, in fact, was responsible for collecting under, by the way, under statute, they may be the good guys, to the degree that there are any, amongst the chieftains of the intelligence agencies.

00:34:25.400 And your thoughts on that?

00:34:28.400 Well, I mean, it's been publicly reported that Admiral Mike Rogers, as I mentioned earlier, uncovered illegal activity by the FBI, undertook an investigation.

00:34:38.400 And then, at least from the reports that I've read, he went and warned President Trump, who was at his offices in Trump Tower, and I believe it was you had Brennan and a few of the other agency heads try to fire Rogers for warning the president that his office and his communications were being spied upon.

00:35:02.400 And that's when the president uprooted and took his office over to New Jersey.

00:35:09.400 And so Mike Rogers, by all appearances, did the right thing.

00:35:16.400 And, but it's still going on.

00:35:19.400 It is still going on.

00:35:21.400 Yeah.

00:35:22.400 And, and the American people are working against a, a complicit, this is a kind word, the complicit national corporatist media, ABC News owned by Disney, CNN owned by AT&T, and now Warner Brothers Discovery.

00:35:42.400 We're watching these corporate owned outlets doing the bidding of their corporate masters, and they are now left wing.

00:35:52.400 It's that straightforward.

00:35:53.400 It's that straightforward.

00:35:54.400 It is that simple.

00:35:55.400 And we have a country that hasn't come to terms with the reality that we have a national left wing media aligned with the radical Marxist Dem Democrat Party, also with the legal system, the court system.

00:36:12.400 I mean, go through our society, where is there not a determinant Marxist left influence or school circling academia, higher education, the medical profession.

00:36:29.400 What, where do we turn to find a significant number of independent conservative patriots who are concerned about this country and are not committed to the left?

00:36:42.400 Well, I think people are waking up because now people are being a there. 1.00

00:36:47.400 It's they're seeing it for their very own eyes.

00:36:50.400 And not only that, the policies that are being implemented are directly affecting the gas prices.

00:36:56.400 Obviously inflation being one of the most most recent examples.

00:37:01.400 And so people in general tend to take action when their personal interests are directly affected.

00:37:09.400 And General Flynn has a great, a great phrase, catchphrase, which is local action, national impact.

00:37:16.400 And, you know, we're seeing it now with grassroots in the various states that we're working with on the election issues, which we're still actively pursuing and uncovering.

00:37:25.400 Right.

00:37:26.400 And people, people recognize the first thing is they recognize what's going on.

00:37:32.400 And then secondly, they're actively taking steps to participate and to stop what's going on.

00:37:39.400 And that's whether it's running for your local school board or just educating a friend about things like the World Economic Forum.

00:37:47.400 Many people that I talk to look at me like, what are you talking about the World Economic Forum?

00:37:52.400 I actually had one friend and I mentioned Klaus Schwab, who's the head of the World Economic Forum, which, as you know, is a group that's been in place for decades that has basically infiltrated governments around the world.

00:38:05.400 They have over 4,000 individuals that they call, quote, young global leaders, and their agenda is a Marxist agenda.

00:38:15.400 This is the build back better, the new world order, build back better.

00:38:20.400 You are going to you're not going to own anything and you're going to be happy.

00:38:26.400 And so that is their tagline.

00:38:28.400 And everybody should just go on to a search engine, look up World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab.

00:38:35.400 But again, people are starting to learn about this, but they didn't know about it up until recently.

00:38:42.400 Even myself, you know, I confess, you know, up until after the November 2020 election.

00:38:48.400 That's really when I started to become much more aware about what is really going on in the world and where they're trying to to lead us.

00:38:57.400 And the idea, I think, that's difficult for people to get their head around is just how big this is, how many people are involved and how deep the tentacles of control go.

00:39:10.400 And I'll give, I think, just one one discrete example.

00:39:13.400 You look at the beginning of this COVID-19 China virus pandemic.

00:39:20.400 There were recognized therapeutics that have been used for years, hydroxychloroquine that the president talked immediately.

00:39:29.400 You know, that's a drug that I, as a seal, took a precursor to to prevent.

00:39:34.400 It's an antimalarial, basically.

00:39:36.400 It's also used in lupus.

00:39:37.400 It's been around for 60 years.

00:39:38.400 It's perfectly safe in, you know, even high doses.

00:39:42.400 Now, it does that like anything at extremely high doses, it becomes toxic.

00:39:46.400 But for general use, it's perfectly safe.

00:39:49.400 Yet the medical community threatened doctors for prescribing it.

00:39:56.400 They were threatened with the loss of their license.

00:39:58.400 This was it's clearly beneficial.

00:40:00.400 And even the American Medical Association in January 2021 came out and said, oh, this is can be a treatment for the China virus or COVID-19.

00:40:10.400 Where were they eight months before?

00:40:12.400 They were pilloring it.

00:40:13.400 You saw all these studies come out saying it's it's it'll cause QT prolongation, you know, heart heart attacks and and everything else.

00:40:22.400 It was it was a propaganda campaign that you saw in the media.

00:40:26.400 You saw it in publications, recognized medical journals like The Lancet, which came out with a fraudulent study that they had to withdraw, which had said that hydroxychloroquine is not effective and it's dangerous.

00:40:39.400 They withdrew that study within two weeks after it was shown for the world that it was based on fraudulent data.

00:40:45.400 You said you saw that the medical boards were threatening doctors for prescribing.

00:40:51.400 And so but I think it's important to recognize and just get real quickly, the interlocking between media, the medical community, academia and governmental policy in terms of prohibiting and suppressing the use of a cheap, effective therapeutic, which had the consequence of likely, at least according to Dr.

00:41:15.400 Dr. Robert Malone has been very outspoken.

00:41:18.400 He said that the suppression of therapeutics like Ivermectin and HCQ likely killed around 500,000 people.

00:41:24.400 Yeah, I know I take these estimates even from Dr.

00:41:30.400 Dr. Malone standing, who's a frequent guest here.

00:41:33.400 I take that with if if you will, just a suggestion, at least that it's a wide, wide ranging estimate.

00:41:42.400 I don't know what the right number is.

00:41:45.400 Neither does Dr. Malone.

00:41:46.400 It's very hard to figure because we don't know about the therapeutics, their impact at the point at the incipient point of the pandemic.

00:41:55.400 I do know this, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr.

00:41:58.400 Peter McCullough, others were exactly right in their demand for therapeutics, not simply a vaccine, which was the end all and be all understandably for the Trump administration and for the CDC.

00:42:13.400 And yes, Dr.

00:42:15.400 Dr. Fauci.

00:42:16.400 But we are dealing with something, as I said, I just point me to one part of our society, our economy that isn't left wing right now.

00:42:26.400 And you just made my point. The medical community, academia, research and development, the scientific community tends to genuflect when the herd coalesces around a government view.

00:42:41.400 It's a very it's unlike anything. I'm a product of the 60s. I believe in critical judgment.

00:42:48.400 I believe in not trusting your government. I'm skeptical of government and was taught from an early age to be so.

00:42:56.400 I think that we've lost that healthy skepticism. But it's I think that to your point, I think it's being resurrected.

00:43:03.400 Thank you to this government.

00:43:05.400 Well, it used to be that, you know, in the 60s, it was always fighting against the man and fighting against authority.

00:43:14.400 And now you see that the Democrat Party and the left have embraced authority.

00:43:20.400 And that that's a that's a big tell. And then you layer on top of it the pure propaganda that's being imposed on the American people from a wide variety of topics.

00:43:31.400 I mean, even you referred to the vaccine for COVID-19.

00:43:36.400 Well, they had to redefine what a vaccine was because this isn't a vaccine at all.

00:43:41.400 It's a gene therapy. But if you look at event 201 and your readers can.

00:43:47.400 It's genetic and generic.

00:43:48.400 It's just it's a genetic engineering. It's gene therapy.

00:43:51.400 It changes the messenger RNA in our bodies.

00:43:56.400 And they actually did studies on this where if they called it gene therapy, people would be less likely to take it for obvious reasons.

00:44:04.400 But they call it a vaccine and people are used to that and they're more compliant.

00:44:08.400 And so and it's still under emergency use authorization.

00:44:12.400 It's not FDA approved that should give everyone something of a of a pause.

00:44:17.400 We are also now learning that some of these companies, including Pfizer, an extraordinary number of deaths associated with the vaccines that were not reported.

00:44:29.400 It had to be discovered.

00:44:31.400 We have much.

00:44:32.400 And by the way, the media has simply relaxed around this idea and have just taking it as sort of business as usual, that infants to five year olds now should be getting these doses of genetic engineering, if you will.

00:44:48.400 These vaccines, but we know that and we and we know what, at least to some degree, we don't know and we have much to learn.

00:44:57.400 But I want to turn to the elections and election integrity, if I may, Kurt, we've got a lot of people.

00:45:04.400 I was just talking earlier with John McLaughlin of the McLaughlin Group, a foremost GOP pollster, I think a brilliant political analyst.

00:45:14.400 We're talking about all of the policies that are disastrous to the Biden administration, yet Biden doesn't reverse policies.

00:45:22.400 What if this election doesn't reflect a higher level of electoral integrity, a higher level of electoral security?

00:45:30.400 In other words, what if Mr. Biden would like to see a replication of what happened in 2020?

00:45:37.400 And who is stopping him?

00:45:38.400 Because it sure as hell isn't the Republican Party.

00:45:42.400 Now, the Republican Party, I think, has really fought election integrity, certainly in 2020.

00:45:51.400 I mean, when you heard Marco Rubio chastise the president about mail in voting, that mail in voting is rife with opportunities for fraud.

00:46:03.400 And I mean, I can remember Senator Rubio saying, oh, no problems with mail in voting.

00:46:08.400 Well, you can go back to the what's called the Carter Baker Commission in 2005 that expressly stated mail in voting offers the greatest opportunity for obvious reasons for fraud.

00:46:19.400 And so this wasn't controversial, yet they did.

00:46:23.400 They took the opposite tact.

00:46:25.400 And do I think that the electronic voting machines are being used to manipulate elections?

00:46:32.400 Absolutely.

00:46:33.400 I think there's strong evidence that shows that they're being used to manipulate elections.

00:46:37.400 It doesn't take a rocket science when you scientists, when you look at these machines, the very few opportunities that people have had,

00:46:46.400 you find that these aren't security vulnerabilities, they're security failures.

00:46:51.400 And just as recently as June 3rd, CISA was forced to admit that Dominion, a certain type of Dominion voting machines,

00:46:59.400 their ballot marking devices, the touch screen, were rife with security failures that would allow nefarious actors to steal votes.

00:47:09.400 And that's not me saying it.

00:47:10.400 That's a professor of computer science at the University of Michigan named Professor J. Alex Halderman, who is a recognized election expert and has been sounding the alarm about how electronic voting machines are going to be used to steal elections on a national level.

00:47:28.400 By the way, I shouldn't interject here because Halderman, who has just written a report that has reports written about the report, but which none of us has seen or read because it's been without.

00:47:42.400 It's under seal.

00:47:43.400 The court will not release it.

00:47:45.400 But to his warnings, those warnings go back years.

00:47:50.400 And there are warnings that, in my judgment, and obviously yours, should be heeded.

00:47:55.400 But my great question here is, why in the world aren't our secretaries of state in various, in all of the states, why aren't the election departments and commissions in each of those states,

00:48:12.400 why don't they know what the major electronic voting companies are doing with their ballots?

00:48:20.400 Why don't, my wife and I went to vote recently, there wasn't even a brand name on the ballot machine.

00:48:31.400 It is mindless what we have allowed to grow up in this country since 2000 in electronic voting.

00:48:39.400 Yeah, no, that's, that's absolutely true.

00:48:42.400 The electronic voting machines will not make public their source code.

00:48:46.400 This is a public function.

00:48:48.400 And it's not just any public function.

00:48:50.400 It's a, it's a public function that goes to the heart of our republic voting.

00:48:54.400 And the idea that machines would be allowed to process ballots and they, they, you know, this is all done through code.

00:49:02.400 You know, when, when a ballot is scanned, it's electronically reading what it supposedly says.

00:49:07.400 Well, that allows the opportunity to manipulate.

00:49:10.400 It's also tabulating the ballot.

00:49:11.400 So that allows the opportunity to manipulate.

00:49:13.400 And the source code that will, it, the voting machine companies refuse to make that public.

00:49:20.400 And in terms of, you know, wide, you know, there's a generalizations.

00:49:24.400 I mean, there's a wide variety of reasons, but I, I would note this.

00:49:28.400 It's well known that George Soros targeted local races.

00:49:34.400 When I mean local, I mean the state level and, and, and lower such as local DAs.

00:49:39.400 And, you know, the, the, the Soros supported DAs through his open society foundation.

00:49:43.400 You know, we've already seen the consequence of having DAs who refuse to prosecute crimes.

00:49:49.400 For example, at least crimes committed by people like Antifa and other left wing groups, but the same thing is.

00:49:58.400 And the most recent report that I have seen on those Soros place prosecutors that there are now 75 of them across the country and in some of the largest cities and counties in the country.

00:50:12.400 It is truly amazing that George Soros gets away with us.

00:50:19.400 Exactly.

00:50:20.400 And George Soros has just like he's done with the DAs gone after secretaries of state.

00:50:26.400 And so when you ask, like, how does this happen?

00:50:29.400 Just like a friend of mine who, who rose up to the level of Admiral and was working at, at, at a high level agency, explained to me how the bureaucracy works.

00:50:40.400 You know, you get one person in and then they start creating a little fiefdom with their friends.

00:50:46.400 And they're, they're more concerned about protecting themselves or what they want to do than what their purpose was for being part of that agency to begin with.

00:50:55.400 So if you get a George Soros left wing supported secretary of state, who are they going to hire?

00:51:01.400 They're going to hire like-minded individuals.

00:51:04.400 And all of a sudden you have a nest that's basically running the elections and it's where we get now.

00:51:11.400 For example, in Wisconsin, you may recall the Racine County sheriff found that the Wisconsin election commission, which is highly left wing for the most part.

00:51:20.400 I think there's only one Republican, not just broke the law.

00:51:24.400 They shattered the law in the 2020 election when they told, instructed nursing homes to disregard the law and allow anybody to come in and fill out ballots for elderly nursing home residents.

00:51:40.400 Many of whom suffered from dementia and other infirmities and were completely cognitively impaired and couldn't vote.

00:51:46.400 And there was at least one instance in this investigation where one of the, one of the family members said, you know, my mother-in-law voted in 2020.

00:51:57.400 She hasn't voted in 10 years and she's bedridden and with severe dementia.

00:52:05.400 And they found that not only out of that one nursing home did it, where there is usually 10 votes, it went up to 42 votes, I believe.

00:52:14.400 And there are thousands of nursing homes in Wisconsin that were affected by this policy.

00:52:21.400 And so you see left wing election officials who have burrowed in, who are disregarding the law.

00:52:30.400 And in 2020, and I suspect you'll see it in the future, doing everything they can to maintain power, because that's what this is all about.

00:52:39.400 It's about maintaining power.

00:52:40.400 It is maintaining power.

00:52:41.400 It is maintaining power.

00:52:42.400 That is what's at risk with the every election.

00:52:45.400 Well, I think when you say that nobody's talking about it, what we've seen is a bifurcation of the media.

00:52:51.400 So the mainstream media, nobody is talking about it.

00:52:54.400 Well, that's what they're talking about.

00:52:56.400 Yeah.

00:52:57.400 And so, but with the rise of social media, which when you move away from the traditional social media, you know, Twitter and Facebook and so forth,

00:53:09.400 and get into Telegram, Truth Social, Frank Social, which is Mike Lindell's site, and others, you see that the word is getting out.

00:53:21.400 I mean, there is a reason why President Trump in 2020 got more votes than any other sitting president in history, despite over four years of relentlessly negative coverage.

00:53:38.400 And that's because the mainstream media is losing its power.

00:53:42.400 And so in terms of people are getting their information from alternative sources.

00:53:49.400 They're doing more research and trying to uncover the truth.

00:53:54.400 And it's difficult when there's a wave of propaganda that's being put out by the mainstream, but people trust, you know, trust Fox, for example, your old network.

00:54:04.400 But Fox is, you know, when I watch Fox, for example, on your Ukraine conflict when Putin invaded Ukraine in February, it was relentless, nonstop, one-sided coverage.

00:54:20.400 Putin was the next coming of Hitler, you know, the NATO's at risk, Europe is at risk, you know, he's going to recreate the former Soviet Union, the parade of horribles. 0.84

00:54:30.400 And if you had any alternative viewpoint, and there was one, and that was by Colonel McGregor, who was telling the truth on Tucker, about what was going on in Ukraine, and the reasons why Putin did invade.

00:54:46.400 And, you know, one of those reasons is Ukraine and NATO and the US refused to say that Ukraine would not be part of NATO when it is on Russia's doorstep.

00:54:58.400 The Biden administration was inviting Ukraine from the moment that Joe Biden took office 18 months ago.

00:55:06.400 They began working to move Ukraine into NATO, inviting Ukraine and Zelensky to join NATO, which was a red line for Putin from the very beginning.

00:55:19.400 But when he knew that he would invade Ukraine, there wasn't a single diplomatic initiative on the part of the Biden administration, the State Department, none whatsoever to stop that invasion.

00:55:33.400 And that speaks, I think, loudly, clearly, and comprehensively, as to where the responsibility lies in the run up to the Putin decision, and I blame Putin entirely for his decision to attack Ukraine.

00:55:51.400 But the Biden administration bears great responsibility.

00:55:55.400 I think they do. I would agree with that.

00:55:57.400 I would also note, you haven't seen any effort to resolve this diplomatically.

00:56:02.400 You know, the refrain, we're going to fight to the last Ukrainian is, you know, is true, because all we are doing is supplying more and more weapons. 1.00

00:56:12.400 We are prolonging the conflict.

00:56:15.400 And right now, recently, it was just reported how we're going to be moving tens of thousands of troops into Europe.

00:56:21.400 And all of these things are escalating the conflict and escalating tensions.

00:56:29.400 Nothing is being done to take down the temperature.

00:56:34.400 And the idea that, you know, I mean, I would, I mean, I have a slightly different view on Ukraine.

00:56:42.400 I mean, Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption and has been for quite some time. 0.99

00:56:48.400 How's that different?

00:56:49.400 Yeah. And the CIA is now it's been reported that they've been actively involved there with advisers stationed out of Kiev to direct the war effort.

00:57:02.400 We it's been reported that 2014 that that was a CIA instigated color revolution.

00:57:12.400 The the the use of bio lab facilities there, which which is quite interesting, if that was a color revolution, I must say that it ended badly.

00:57:23.400 And we should remove the CIA from even the list of intelligence agencies when the result is that Crimea is taken over by Vladimir Putin.

00:57:34.400 I mean, I believe some of this to a point and I and I certainly am no fan of the CIA, but here's the reality.

00:57:41.400 The reality again is Zelensky after one month of conflict wanted to negotiate with Putin over Donbass and the eastern Ukrainian region that Putin claims.

00:57:55.400 And and the Biden administration said no.

00:58:00.400 And now here we are all these deaths, all this destruction later.

00:58:05.400 And again, the Biden administration itself bears responsibility.

00:58:12.400 We can move off into the shadows with the CIA and various other agencies, but this is emanating straight from the Biden White House. 0.96

00:58:21.400 And Biden is corrupt as he can be. 0.96

00:58:25.400 There is no question about it. 0.55

00:58:27.400 We just don't have an FBI or a Justice Department that has sufficient integrity or a sufficient lack of corruption to act.

00:58:36.400 And that's where we are. We are caught with an impaired and corrupt president.

00:58:42.400 And that is that makes almost everything else a sideshow.

00:58:47.400 I think it's a fair question to ask of the 60 billion dollars that's being sent to Ukraine or for that effort.

00:58:56.400 It would be nice to know where that money is going.

00:58:59.400 You know, it would be fascinating.

00:59:02.400 But if you can give me an example of a of a checkout list for the money that we have spent on anything in the last 10 years about where the money went.

00:59:17.400 I mean, we've got 80, 85 billion dollars in military equipment sitting in Afghanistan that we left for the Taliban.

00:59:24.400 I mean, we can get going through the list.

00:59:28.400 You know, it's just amazing to me when I look at Iraq and Afghanistan, we squandered trillions of dollars under Republican and Democratic presidents.

00:59:42.400 And to what end?

00:59:44.400 To no purpose whatsoever in the national interest.

00:59:48.400 It is except except to the military industrial complex.

00:59:53.400 And it is that true.

00:59:55.400 It is that provable.

00:59:56.400 And it is that appalling.

00:59:58.400 And most Americans should should really, you know, ask themselves, why?

01:00:05.400 Why have we tolerated this kind of conduct?

01:00:09.400 We always give our guests the last word.

01:00:12.400 And I want to give you that opportunity for your concluding thoughts here on The Great America Show.

01:00:17.400 Well, I would like to encourage everyone, as General Flynn has said and I mentioned earlier, the local action national impact.

01:00:28.400 And people need to understand that what's going on now is not normal.

01:00:34.400 This isn't a situation where maybe the Republicans will take control of the of the House and Senate in these upcoming midterms and things will get back to normal.

01:00:46.400 What we are at a point in the history of this country that is far more precarious and it's going to require people to step forward and not just rely on their elected officials.

01:00:59.400 Of course, people need to come out and vote in massive numbers, but they can no longer people can no longer outsource their security or their their freedom and put it in the hands of others.

01:01:12.400 And that means a educating yourself about what's going on, not just reading the headline, but actually finding out about the World Economic Forum, finding out why these vaccines, which are really a gene therapy or what's the data behind that?

01:01:29.400 How many people is it really hurting? Why is the FDA and Pfizer trying to keep that information secret for 75 years?

01:01:36.400 You know, so go on to other social media sites like Telegram is a great one.

01:01:45.400 Truth Social, Frank Social. Listen to Frank Speech.

01:01:49.400 Brandon House and Mike Lindell both have terrific, terrific newscasts at seven and eight Eastern every night and you'll learn the real news.

01:02:01.400 And so this is as much about education and everybody needs to educate themselves to wake up to what's going on and then participation to actively play a role in preserving our freedoms, because if we don't, we're going to lose them.

01:02:15.400 And we're at a precarious moment in our country's history right now.

01:02:19.400 Thank you, Lou.

01:02:21.400 Kurt Olson, we appreciate you being with us here on The Great America Show.

01:02:25.400 Thank you so much. God bless you.

01:02:28.400 Likewise, Lou. Thank you again.

01:02:30.400 Thanks, everybody, for joining us today.

01:02:33.400 Thanks to Senator Paul and thanks to Kurt Olson for being with us.

01:02:37.400 And here Monday on The Great America Show, our guest will be our friend Steve Bannon, former chief strategist to President Donald Trump and now the host of Steve Bannon's War Room podcast.

01:02:49.400 Till then, God bless you and God bless America.

The Great America Show - August 05, 2022

SEN. RAND PAUL AND TRUMP ATTORNEY KURT OLSEN ON THE QUESTION, WILL THE DEMS DO IT AGAIN？

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