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The Great America Show
- January 09, 2026
SHOCK POLL: A Civil War is Here and America Support it!
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Word Count
8,111
Sentence Count
587
Misogynist Sentences
7
Hate Speech Sentences
27
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have you with us. Happy
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Friday. We made it through another week in America, and boy, it was an eventful one.
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The chaos ensuing in Minneapolis, and it continues to unfold right now as we sit here
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and speak. Portland, Oregon, too, shot last night as they tried to continue this Democrat
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narrative of thinking it's okay to run over federal agents. It's not going to happen.
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The summer of love is not going to turn into the winter of love. It's just not going to happen,
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no matter how much the Democrats want to try to make it happen. We're expecting a big Supreme
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Court ruling today on Trump's tariffs. We're told it's not coming today, so I guess we'll have to
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wait another week to see if they're going to rule on those. Polly Market and Calci have been
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overwhelmingly showing that the Supreme Court is going to knock down President Trump's tariffs,
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which would be a great disjustice to this country, would be a great disjustice to the stock market.
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And we saw yesterday the number of our trade deficit absolutely cracked at because of these
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tariffs. So we have to sit and wait on that. I got a text early this morning. It was about
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three o'clock in the morning. Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Reports texting me, telling me he's got
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some news to break. President Trump is doing very well, so I want to bring him in right now.
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Mark Mitchell. Tell us, Mark, how's it going? How are the numbers for President Trump today?
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How is his nine-day start to the new year?
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Well, something changed, and I don't know what. And everybody's calling me a black pillar. I'm
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afraid that Dan Bongino is going to come punch me in the face now because, you know, it's getting
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rough out there for us black pillars. And it's like, well, I look at data, you know, and I'm like,
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hey, I want this movement to succeed. And if the data is bad, I'm going to tell you that there's a
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problem. And I've been doing that for the last two months. And I kind of was actually like
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sort of blackpilling before Christmas because I looked at Trump and I'm like, man, he doesn't
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get it. Like he's not doing the things he needs to do. He's not talking about the problems America
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has in the way that I think he needs to. And to give you a too long didn't read, it's basically
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like it seems because he's an old guy or a billionaire or in a bubble or whatever, he
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doesn't understand how bad the economy is for Americans and isn't talking about it correctly
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and how to fix it the right way. And then the other one is it's just been a complete
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goose egg for government reform. And I think America would be OK with not getting the economy
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fully fixed in five years or whatever. I think we understand that this is going to take decades
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to reverse course on all of the wreckage the Uniparty did. But unfortunately, if we go into
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26 and nobody's been arrested, I don't think that there's a good path forward. I really don't.
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Republicans had a mandate. And if if the Republican sweeping all branches of government
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can't fix our problems, then what is the solution? What is the redress of the grievances for American
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people? But the last three days have been absolutely insane. It's like one win after another. And what
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like what happened? Something obviously happened. And they're putting out kind of the same type of
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energy that they were in the beginning of February last year. And that's when Trump was absolutely
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cruising. So his numbers haven't picked up yet, but I really do think they're going to.
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He's been kicking around at about negative nine net approval rating for the last month,
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got down to negative 12. And he's right about where he was in the first term at this point.
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And that was after a recovery from the Russia collusion hoax. And for the rest of his first
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term, Trump was in the 45 to 50 percent range job approval rating. We'll probably see that with
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this Trump as well. It all just comes down to the midterms.
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You mentioned what the two things, the midterms and truth, justice in the American way and
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accountability. And we saw we were talking before the show, James Comer did an interview with
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Catherine Herridge. And he pretty much said, I don't you know, I really don't know what to do
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at this point with Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi has issued nothing. We've given him everything on the auto pen.
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And it seems everything that's given to Pam Bondi, it just expires and expires and expires
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until the next thing comes out. And it's like, oh, well, here's the new shiny object.
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Look at this object. Here's the new shiny object. Look at this object.
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And nothing is getting done. I continue to say this every day, Mark.
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How can the Republican Party go to the voters and say, listen, it's been a year since we've been in
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office. We've done absolutely nothing. We've got the big, beautiful bill, which was President Trump
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by himself that he literally had to go to Capitol Hill to lobby for himself.
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Something very unprecedented for a president to have to do because you have people in place to
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do that for you. You're Speaker of the House. You're my majority leader in the Senate.
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OK, so we've done one thing. We passed the big, beautiful bill. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime.
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Once again, President Trump by himself. OK, arrests. We have absolutely nothing to show for it.
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We ran on getting the deep state. We ran on holding these scumbags accountable. You have nothing.
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How do these politicians, Mark, if they're hiring you, if a politician is hiring you today,
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how do you tell that politician to go to his base, his audience, his his electorate and say,
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vote for me? I've done jack shit. Yeah, I mean, this is the crisis. I think Trump is a very good
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brand man. I think he intuitively understands what his customer needs. And in 2016, what the customer
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America needed was an outsider who was willing to just say, you know what? I'm not a racist. We need
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a wall and China screwing us over. We need to stop China from screwing us over. And now what did
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he run on this time? I think he pretty intelligently knew that America wanted things like
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retribution. And that's a very strong word and a very nonspecific promise. And so when you promise
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American people retribution and when Americans fundamentally know that the problem is the government
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and you don't deliver any of that stuff, I think you're going to see more of what we're seeing
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with Dan Bongino right now, which is somebody who was pretty beloved as an influencer, huge following
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massive show. And now everybody on the social media is just trolling this guy because he's coming out of
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the gate swinging. He's fighting his own movement on social media more than he fought within the FBI to
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actually fix these problems with not a shred of humility. And so I think that this is a very
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cautionary tale because people are fed up, obviously, with Pam Bondi. And one of the
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questions is, why hasn't Trump done anything? And now here's the other issue, too, is that we all
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know there's a deep state. We all know that the Department of Justice is probably full of a bunch
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of scumbags that haven't been fired. But at the end of the day, if Trump was unable to find those
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people and fire them and replace them with patriotic Americans, then what is the redress for the
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grievances of Americans? And the answer is, I don't think he was making those lists of lawyers
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that to come in and take over. And I don't think that stuff was done. And so if we look at this
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situation, which is if there's no accountability, we might be in a shooting civil war. Republicans
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might lose for generations. Donald Trump might have zero legacy. He might be a laughingstock
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because this is kind of a rug pull to promise retribution and give America Pam Bondi with no arrests
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is a bit of a rug pull. And Trump is sitting in the White House and watching this and not doing
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anything about it. And so if the if the system is so unaccountable and if Americans can never have
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an elected representative arrested, in my opinion, there's almost an ethical or moral obligation
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to burn down for the American people. If it's not going to work, don't say, well, we can't find
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somebody guilty in D.C. So we're going to try him in Florida. No, no, no. Try them in D.C. Get the
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evidence out and let the American people see them walk, arrest 10,000 people. They all walk and we
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all know what time it is. It's it's much worse than what you just said, by the way, Mark, you'd said
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if we can't find these people, we've found them, Mark, we found them and we promote them. It's known
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there's people on Twitter who do this work each and every day, Mark. I think it was the head of
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the FBI field office in Virginia, who's a January 6th. I think it was the FBI. It was the Virginia
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field office. These people are not being fired, Mark. They're being promoted. People under Christopher
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Ray, Cash Patel should have went in there with Dan Bongino and fired every single person. Now they
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say you can't do it. How do you know? You've never tried it. They told us Donald Trump couldn't win
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in 2016 because he wasn't a politician and we tried it. It worked out. It works. So it's
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exactly what America needed. Right. We can't do it. No, you can do it. You just don't want to do it
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because it breaks the status quo. Bongino wants to come out here and do this whole tough guy act
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like he's this big tough guy. He's this big gangster. Then you weren't a gangster. You were a
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secret service agent turned podcaster. OK, like let's cut out the tough guy act. Let's cut out the big
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gangster act like you're this big and just like let's stop it there. We're all professionals
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here. We're not we're not gangsters. OK, but he's out there crashing out Mark each and every day on
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Twitter. He's literally the new Mark Levin. Not that Mark Levin has gone gone by the wayside,
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but he's literally the new Mark Levin. As you said, crashing out against the very people who
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supported him. They're not speaking out against him. They're speaking out against the system that
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he went in there. And instead of Dan coming out and being honest with us about why he did
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absolutely nothing, he's coming out with this hatred and anger. Why would you ask about the
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Epstein files? You're a black pillar and I'm coming for you. I'm like, what? I even heard that he's
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calling up influencers behind the scenes and threatening them. Oh, I actually know somebody that that
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happened to. Can you tell us who? No, I won't. I'll tell you later. I know. Oh, God. But yeah,
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wild. And what's he going to what's he threatening? What's he going to do? Is he going to beat them
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up? He's going to shoot. What's he going to do? He's going to talk to talk tough, John. It is a
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crash out. He looked like he sounds like he sounds like an Israel first or who took a little bit too
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much pro hormones is what it sounds like. It sounds like we got a little bit of like, you know, maybe
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testosterone replacement roid rage going on or something like that. Or maybe he's just been
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chomping at the bit for 10 months. But I can tell you objectively, he failed at his job because I
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just retweeted. I found the tweet from February today and went back and looked and let's just like,
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let's just read this thing. Where is it? It's not that far back. Oh, this is bad TV. No,
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you could just read Dan Bongino has accepted the position of deputy director of the FBI as part of
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a broader effort to restore public trust and reinforce the integrity of one of America's
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most crucial institutions, February 24th. Well, we just pulled a few weeks ago and 83% of Trump voters
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say that major agencies like the FBI and the CIA still need massive reform. And so he failed.
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Like he objectively said he was going to restore trust, did some stuff. And now he's attacking
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influencers with zero self-awareness or humility.
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He's literally the new Mark Levin. And for people who aren't on Twitter, Mark Levin has been on this
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downward trajectory. And I mean, he's taunted by certain people. Mark is one of them. They go after
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this man, but he's out there calling, he called Megan Kelly, who for however old Megan Kelly is,
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I think she's somewhere in her fifties. He called her like this crap pot. Megan Kelly's beautiful for
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what she's like a 50 year old woman. Who's she's beautiful. She reads his early forties for sure.
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Right. She's in very good shape. She, she, and, and, and like you said, reads in her forties,
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Mark Levin, big, bald headed, big eared Mark Levin is out here for you. You know,
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say she's ugly and this and that. And you're like, this is, this is what it's come down to.
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Mark Levin, who was once this highly well-respected attorney turned a television commentator.
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I can never listen to the guy. The guy's voice was like, Oh, he's hostile to people too. It's so
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insulting and angry. And it's like boomer slop, man. My dad used to eat that stuff up. He loved it.
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Yeah. But that guy's like one missed angiogram away from like the widow maker. And here he is
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like calling out like Megan Kelly. I mean, you can't make this stuff up, but I don't know if
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you knew this, John, I'm up to 11 ratios of Mark Levin. And I want it to be said that I never came
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after this guy first. Why this happened is that he said that you can't be conservative and support
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Tucker Carlson. And I said, I support Tucker Carlson, an American exercising his first amendment
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protected right of free speech. And that was enough to make Mark Levin my enemy. He called
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all of a sudden he's using, he quoted five 38 John to try and attack Rasmussen reports,
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which is like literally quoting Satan to attack the Pope, but you're a Catholic. It's like
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unbelievable. And I ratioed him 11 times with 40 times less followers. It's to the point where
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we started calling him a lol cow. And what does Dan Bongino do in the first 24 hours of his new
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civilian life on Twitter? He retweets Mark Levin two times. I think he's up to four retweets now.
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And about one third of this guy's retweets are Israeli firsters. He's literally retweeting like
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Josh Hammer and fricking Ben Shapiro. And it's like Ben Shapiro is hemorrhaging a thousand YouTube
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subscribers a day. He is like, I'm sorry. And you can look at the straw poll that Rich Barris did.
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Like Israel is a losing issue in the conservative movement and they're shoving people out of the big
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tent. They're ejecting people. It's like Israel's got a bouncer at the doors of the America first
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big tent and they don't want these people there. And that's not how you win elections. You got to
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find common cause with these people. This is going to horrify some of your viewers, but Donald Trump
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and the MAGA movement needs Nick Fuentes voters. They need those people.
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Let's stop right there because that's actually what started and what provoked the Mark Levin,
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Megyn Kelly thing. And I want to pull it up here so we can listen to it together. This is what
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Megyn Kelly had to say about Nick Fuentes that absolutely drove Mark Levin berserk.
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He's very interesting and he's very smart. And on a lot of things, there is value to be derived
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from that guy's messaging. I'm sorry, but he actually has a lot of things he talks about that
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you're like, oh, this is not a bad point about our country.
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Which Megyn Kelly, and this was Ian Malish-Chung, who I don't even think is an American, to Mitch,
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Megyn Kelly replied, you're a pathetic misinformation whore. I was explaining why young white men are
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listening to Fuentes and made clear that while I believe he makes interesting points about the
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government, et cetera, I was not speaking about his thoughts on Jews, women's, blacks, et cetera,
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F you and your lies, to which Mark Levin crashes out and called her a nasty, aging crackpot.
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That's I didn't see that tweet. Wow.
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If she's a nasty, aging crackpot, what the F are you is what I had to say to Mark.
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I mean, you're absolutely right. I mean, do I agree with everything Nick Funtas says?
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No, but I don't agree with everything everyone says anyway. And I don't think you do either.
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Everyone makes, you know, imagine having to be accountability. Like, why do I have to be
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accountable for words? Some person I don't know says, you know what I mean? Right.
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Like I'm allowed to say, wow, he made a good idea and say, here's a good idea.
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But let's be adults here. Like, because he said something else doesn't invalidate the fact that
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this is a good idea or not. Are we freaking sheep or are we men with God given agency and independent
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free will? Like, seriously, like, are these not the liberal founding ideals of America?
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And obviously, for people who care about Israel more than America, they are having a hard time
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getting that. But it's turning up over and over again. I spoke to 120 Republicans in Colorado two days
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ago. Sure enough, there was a guy there who was like, well, what about Nick Fuentes? And where does
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that fit into things? And I refuse to condemn the guy. And, you know, I gave a longer answer, but
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more is it to do so. Yeah. Like, why is why is it my job? I don't keep track of everything
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everybody else has said. But here's what I specifically said to these people is that you
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need those voters and there needs to be room in the big tent for people who are not.
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So here's what folks don't understand anymore is that these boomer guys, they'll be like,
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oh, I grew up on El Rushbo. And they'll be like, OK, well, like 95 percent of their political views
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are formed by Rush Limbaugh. And that's not how this new generation operates, period, whatsoever.
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It's like they are parsing everything. And so Nick Fuentes probably has got about 100,000
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Groypers. He does. There are people that will call themselves Groypers. They will brigade comments.
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They will call you an old head, you know, and stuff like that. Right. I'm one of the
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Groypers call me one of the rare old heads that gets it. And then there's about five to 10 million
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humans, most of them young men who just happen to have watched Nick Fuentes content and agreed with
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it. And they don't call themselves Groypers. They're not Nick Fuentes followers. They watch Candace.
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They probably watch Ben Shapiro, too. They watch all kinds of people and they don't identify with
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this person. And they look at people attacking Nick Fuentes and they're like, what the hell are
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you doing? Like this isn't helpful. You're not talking to me. You're just raging. You're like
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the old man from The Simpsons yelling at the cloud. That's literally what they think about
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these people. And and then you also have to understand, too, that this is generational warfare
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and that Nick Fuentes and his anti-Semitism Holocaust denial stick is the equivalent of like
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your 1950s greaser. Like basically, it's the guy that is acting. It's a rebellion. It's purposeful
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rebellion. And if you hear Nick Fuentes talk, he actually doesn't really care about Israel that
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much at all. He's not anti-Semitic. He has said it's a shtick to get attention and it's worked
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gloriously. Now, is it the best thing for the conservative movement? I don't know, but it certainly
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has disrupted a certain foreign government's ability to maintain control over the influence
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that it's had over the party for decades. Right. So it's kind of glorious to see that
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like one guy just saying insane stuff on the Internet has caused this much damage.
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Now, Mark, he's a genius to look at the other side of this. Now, you've got someone like Laura
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Loomer who crashes out, Mark, just as much as Mark Levin and Dan Mangino, if not more,
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if anyone dare say anything about Israel or their government or anything like that,
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or go to any sort of country that's Muslim run or Muslim dominant religion or anything like that,
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taking on war with Tucker Carlson. I mean, it's gotten so pathetic to the fact of her
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commenting on Tucker Carlson being on Ozempic. I mean, could you look in the mirror at yourself
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first at a plastic surgery case gone? I mean, absolute rogue. But that's what it's come down to
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this weird, absolutely strange crash out. And it's like they monitor the Internet, Mark.
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Anything said or done, it's a crash out from Loomer or, you know, the her wing of the crazies.
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Well, I don't know if you saw this. I'm trying to find the tweet, but it was just revealed in a
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Times of Israel article within the last 24 hours, I think, that Bibi Netanyahu has been accused by
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his own people of actually operating a massive army of influencer bots and influencer bots.
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And it's kind of interesting because that's what they accuse Qatar of doing. And it turns out that
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it's probably the Likud party. And I think it's reasonable to believe based on that reporting by
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probably pretty good journalists over there that, you know, look, an investigation by Channel 12 found
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that about half of politically active Israeli social media accounts are bots, with many amplifying
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posts by PM Netanyahu and other members of his coalition. And so it is kind of interesting how
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rapidly Laura Loomer and Mark Levin and these other folks and the ones I've only blocked three people
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ever. But there's a bunch of these people that are basically just the frickin Hasbara accounts like
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Max Abrams and stuff like that. And they will glom onto you and stick with you almost as if they've
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been assigned. They really have. And it's peculiar behavior. And I don't want to get in trouble with
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Laura Loomer. I'm actually very afraid of her, to be honest with you, I think. But, you know,
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when I look at your wife and children, that's what she does. Yeah. You know, you know,
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the funny thing is, is Mark, is these same people are the are the same people who will scream America
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first. You know, like I'm America first. I am the definition of America first. It's me. If you
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Google America first, it's a picture of me as they're over here lobbying for every other country.
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Well, you know, what's weird, too, is that like she has done good journalism. She has done good work.
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She has been a member of the American movement. You're absolutely right. It's like, OK, 20 percent of the
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posts. You're like, what the hell? You're you're saying this? It doesn't make sense to lose credit.
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Yeah, that's right. So, oh, 100 percent. And my my litmus test is you can always go back to
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patriots.win, which is the second form of the original Reddit, the Donald, which was the largest
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online community of Trump supporters. And these people like moderated the community on purpose to
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be entirely pro Trump. And if Trump did something wrong, they would call it 40 chess. You know what
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I mean? Like they would literally be apologists for Trump. And so if you go to patriots.win
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and just compare what Laura Loomer saying versus what like the most Trumpy community on the Internet
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is saying, if she's to the right of that cheerleading a Trump thing, it's probably something that's
00:21:56.080
beneficial for Israel. Like that's my litmus test. Yeah, you know, one hundred hit 50 percent. Right.
00:22:04.540
Let's pivot from Israel now to another country. And let's get on that again, John. I committed myself
00:22:10.220
to not bring this topic up because it's these influencers that, you know, they want to go at
00:22:15.080
Nick Fuentes or X, Y and Z. But, you know, on the other side, it's you know, it's it's it's all crickets
00:22:21.400
and it can't be like that. If you want to call out one side, that's fine. Call out the other side,
00:22:25.980
too. And let's let's make it fair and let's make it even. Let's turn to another one of your
00:22:30.020
favorite countries. And that's the good old Somalian folks. Scott Besson, who's very steadfast
00:22:35.620
in getting, I think, things done, announcing with Laura Ingram last night that he is investigating
00:22:43.300
the fraud and they're going to start looking into some of these people who are on government subsidies.
00:22:47.700
These Somalians are government subsidies and sending money outside of the country.
00:22:51.080
Let's take a look. Outrage. President Trump is outraged. I'm outraged. The whole administration
00:22:55.220
is outraged. And we are here to follow the money because that's what Treasury does.
00:23:00.160
We have done that for years. We did it with the mafia. We have done it with the cartels.
00:23:05.980
And now we are going to do it the with these Somali fraudsters. And Treasury has something
00:23:13.680
called FinCEN, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network. And we are coming in and we're coming
00:23:20.740
in. Tomorrow we are announcing that four investigations into money service businesses that we believe
00:23:28.820
may have wired money out of the country, a lot of the ill-gotten stolen money over to the
00:23:35.440
Middle East, over to Somalia. We'll see where that's going. So we're announcing investigations
00:23:39.940
into four of those money service businesses. We are going to put in what we call a geographical
00:23:46.920
targeting order. So there's something called Suspicious Activity Report. If a certain amount
00:23:54.080
of money gets wired anywhere. So we're lowering that to $3,000. And we're also targeting the two
00:24:02.080
counties here. And we're going to do enhanced surveillance. And from now on, anyone who wires
00:24:08.800
money out from one of these money service businesses has to check a box saying whether
00:24:14.260
they are on public assistance. And if you are on public assistance, we are going to.
00:24:20.580
That's great. He went on to say that they're going to pull that. And those monies transfer
00:24:25.800
services are, for example, for folks listening, like Western Union and MoneyGram and things like
00:24:30.760
that, where you can send money over as well as wiring through directly to a bank. That's excellent.
00:24:35.240
I think Scott Besson's doing a terrific job. But at the end of the day, Mark, should they find any
00:24:39.440
fraud? It all leads back to who?
00:24:42.120
Yeah, I know. That's what I was going to say. It's like, this guy's doing the heavy lifting here.
00:24:45.880
And I feel bad for him. And I'd heard about that, but I hadn't seen the clip. I hadn't seen the
00:24:49.640
details. First, let's just step back and say that if Donald Trump had just stuck with Doge and just
00:24:55.520
said, you know what? Screw my legislative agenda. Let's just burn the federal government to the down
00:24:59.420
or down. Let's audit Fort Knox. Let's go into the DOD defenses. If he had just done that,
00:25:04.140
I think his administration would have been a lot more successful because it would have been
00:25:08.260
something permanent and tangible that he gave the American people that they needed, which is
00:25:11.840
draining the swamp. But unfortunately, the Republican Party, in my opinion, is the one
00:25:16.040
that got rid of Doge. And it was a huge blow to Trump. And I think we can all agree that his six
00:25:21.100
months kind of since the end of Doge has been substandard, not what people expected. And so
00:25:27.880
all of this Minnesota fraud is kind of rewinding it back to the Doge period, where I think why
00:25:35.340
everybody was freaking out with joy was because Trump got elected because people didn't trust the
00:25:41.080
federal government and Doge validated how bad it was. And so when you worry about the future of the
00:25:46.500
country and our finances and you say, well, how are we going to have Social Security? We can't even,
00:25:51.220
you know what I mean? When it instead looks like 10 to 20% of our finances is literally just being
00:25:58.200
stolen, there's a lot easier answer out. You just arrest everybody. And the problem is solved.
00:26:03.720
And Besson himself is implying that as much as $300 to $600 billion annually of our government
00:26:10.140
expenditures is literally just fraud and malfeasance, not even talking about inefficiency or waste.
00:26:15.160
Then all of a sudden you've handed the American people a light at the end of the tunnel again.
00:26:21.600
And I think that this is a gift for Trump because I don't think the Republicans can govern. I just
00:26:25.600
don't. We've tried it. They're not going to do it. They're stabbing America in the back.
00:26:29.400
And so Trump should literally just go whole hog. Then I've seen a lot of creative stuff over the last
00:26:34.080
two or three days. We have a new assistant attorney general for fraud just got announced. We have a lot
00:26:38.840
of other stuff going on. Besson came out with this and I feel sad for him because it's a great idea.
00:26:45.160
Let's take everybody on government assistance and not allow them to do any remittances. That's
00:26:50.180
unbelievable. That's beautiful. That's like a work of Mozart, right? The problem is that the only way
00:26:56.020
he has to do it is they have to self ID with a freaking checkbox. And so where is the rest of
00:27:01.480
the government? What should we be doing? We should be declaring martial law in Minnesota and the entire
00:27:06.980
all those 80,000 IRS agents with guns that we didn't fire should be there. Like everybody should be
00:27:12.960
there. We should literally occupy Minnesota and there should be freaking public show trials of
00:27:19.580
the people who stole. This is not petty theft. This is not grand larceny. I even think we should
00:27:26.960
have. I was promised military tribunals, John, like quite frankly. And if stealing a hundred billion
00:27:32.920
dollars doesn't get you there and and if saying if threatening to bring a national guard troops
00:27:39.980
to attack federal agents doesn't get you there like we America has been worried about a revolution
00:27:48.020
civil war increasingly the number got up to 43 percent Democrats are begging for it like give them
00:27:55.000
brutal accountability and the under 40 voters specifically even the leftists they will eat
00:28:01.420
this up. They want the system fixed. They want these people to cry salty tears. The process is the
00:28:07.400
punishment. The tears are the reward for the American people that have been screwed. And you know,
00:28:14.080
Scott Besson, poor guys like out there. It's it's him. It's JD. Like who else is really doing the
00:28:21.440
heavy lifting here? Well, it depends. The department RFK is doing a hell of a job. You know, there's a few
00:28:27.020
of them who are, you know, Besson's one not to mess with as far as I'm we were talking about
00:28:30.920
gangsters before and Dan Bongino. I'm concerned the only person I've ever heard actually throw
00:28:35.820
hands up was Scott Besson. So he's not what someone actually told me a story as a as young
00:28:41.780
kid. I would pay to watch that fight, John. Well, listen, so someone was very close to him
00:28:45.960
growing up being a gay guy in the Carolinas was not easy for him. So he took up boxing and you know,
00:28:56.600
very seriously and used to put beatdowns on people. So he's the only person I've ever heard
00:29:01.760
of confirmed from people that he's tried to fight Elon Musk, Bill Pulte. And I think there's one
00:29:09.060
other person, Bill Pulte from FHFA. I guess it's Elon a shiner. I don't know. I think they said that
00:29:16.800
he was the one who gave you on the black eye. I'm not sure if that's true, but I've heard that
00:29:21.900
from multiple. I kind of appreciate that, to be honest with you. I mean, you know, I believe the best
00:29:25.580
in people and even somebody who works in politics and I'm really naive, but I look at Scott Besson
00:29:31.020
talk and every time I hear him talk, he feels just principled. You know what I mean? Like I just
00:29:37.100
innately get that from him. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's common soothing. And but I think it's hysterical.
00:29:43.960
So all of this leads now, Mark, to actually before we get to that, let's talk about another one of
00:29:54.520
your favorite foreign countries. And that's India. Maybe looking at a 500 percent tariff on the
00:29:59.920
Belgeets. What says you, Mark? I know it's one of your favorite countries and I know that you admire
00:30:05.420
these people greatly and I know, you know, they do a really good job. By the way, I got invited to
00:30:10.400
somebody, but by somebody to take a trip over to India to look at some opportunities over there,
00:30:16.060
business opportunities. And I respectfully declined. But what says you?
00:30:23.760
The background here is that I had to teach John about the UNICEF poo in the loo.
00:30:30.180
From 2013 that actually exists where they literally paid pollsters, I guess, or whoever to gather this
00:30:42.180
statistic to determine that as of like 1995 or whenever, over 50 percent of all world open
00:30:49.580
defecation instances per capita happened in the country of India. It's real data, folks.
00:30:57.840
So, oh, man. Well, OK, for people who don't know the lore, I worked in tech and H-1Bs is way worse
00:31:06.600
than anybody knows. And the H-1B program from an economic perspective is what's hurting the younger
00:31:13.480
people who should be getting white collar salary jobs by far the most out of anything. I would put
00:31:18.580
them in order H-1B, then offshoring and then finally illegal immigration. And so to me, the H-1B has
00:31:25.280
always been the low hanging fruit of we just need to get rid of this. And obviously, it was legislated
00:31:30.320
by George H.W. Bush in the 1990 Immigration Act. And it actually still polls well, but it's being
00:31:35.520
abused by corporations. And so to me, this was always the sticking point, which is if Trump isn't
00:31:40.360
talking negatively about the H-1B program, it means that these big corporations have his ear.
00:31:46.480
And India specifically is over 72 percent of all of our temporary visas. And there are almost all of
00:31:54.320
the high paying jobs. So literally, India has taken the future of the American people. They can't buy
00:31:59.780
houses. They can't form families because the Indians are doing it instead. And it would be really easy
00:32:05.660
to fix because Trump levied a new social media requirement in the interview process for H-1Bs in
00:32:12.180
Chennai. And it costs holy hell. There are people that couldn't get these interviews scheduled for
00:32:17.060
months and months and freaking out and getting fired from their jobs. So there's a lot of stuff
00:32:20.520
they could do. And even the H-1B fee that he put in place is not perfect. It exempts students.
00:32:26.280
And so all it's doing is making the Indians take a BS eight-month master's program in order to
00:32:31.260
still steal the jobs. But where we're at now is that pretty much every Fortune 100 company at least
00:32:37.280
has a significant foothold of Indian engineering. And it's all kickbacks and nepotism.
00:32:43.540
And so what I'm afraid about, John, we haven't really talked about this,
00:32:46.580
is that with Venezuela, I think there's an aspect of election integrity. I think that's one of the
00:32:51.400
reasons that Trump went there. But I also think it's a lot to do with China and oil. And if you see
00:32:56.980
Trump's out there increasing, calling for the increase of the Department of Defense from $1 trillion to $1.5
00:33:03.720
trillion, which would be a major investment in the US military at a time when NATO is also talking
00:33:10.440
about putting troops in Ukraine for safety guarantees and putting... Basically, NATO troops
00:33:16.800
are going to be put in a situation where we're going to be in contact with Russian troops.
00:33:20.580
And so what I'm afraid of is that I feel like there's this situation where we get in,
00:33:27.400
where the world all realizes that everything's gotten screwed up and that the only way out is a
00:33:32.200
massive shooting war. And I think we're getting pretty close because I think we're finding out
00:33:38.200
increasingly that Iran, Russia, and China in a coordinated manner are behind some of these
00:33:44.460
things like the Somali fraud ring. It was implicated that Iran is receiving some of the money that's
00:33:48.880
getting sent to Somalia. I think we're going to find that they've all been coordinated against
00:33:52.660
America. Well, they're members of the competing currency block, the BRICS.
00:33:56.960
So is India. And India is in a position to sabotage the engineering of every corporation
00:34:04.920
basically in America that counts. 90% of our stock market value has a significant foothold of Indians
00:34:11.620
in engineering where they could sabotage. Not even engineering leadership as well.
00:34:15.540
Yeah. They make them the VPs. They make them the C-level. C-level. C-level. Yeah.
00:34:21.000
So yes. Microsoft. Google. Google. Yeah. It's an overwhelming majority of them.
00:34:28.640
Yeah. Like what happens if we get in a war with China and Russia and India has to decide
00:34:33.220
and it looks better to, you know, stick with the people who are literally adjacent to you.
00:34:40.020
And all of a sudden, Google, who probably has like, what, 60% market share on everybody's
00:34:47.020
operating systems for their phones, has all that data that's in everybody's Gmail accounts,
00:34:53.360
has all these photos, has that, are they going to use that information? Like, where does that go?
00:35:01.120
And I think that that's very, very, very possible future. And so now Trump has gone out and
00:35:07.440
literally because of skirting the sanctions. And of course, I guess, Western Europe is skirting
00:35:12.440
the Russian sanctions as well, but he's threatened a 500% tariff on India. And that's profoundly high.
00:35:21.780
And we're, so we're dealing with them in a very hostile manner when they own every single one of
00:35:26.220
our fortune 100s. It's really weird. And yet he didn't talk about tariffing offshores, you know,
00:35:30.360
like a 50% tariff on offshore labor would be a bigger hit probably than the 500% increase.
00:35:37.540
So I don't know where it goes, but I know that India hates me and they write articles about me
00:35:41.120
because they, they're such gangsters and people are so afraid in corporate America that they will
00:35:48.460
be unemployable by talking bad about the H1B program. There's really only about 10 of us that did it.
00:35:53.420
And so I'm not, that's not even my thing. I'm a pollster and the H1B program's popular because
00:35:59.140
Americans like the idea of taking talented people from, but if the, what little I've said is enough
00:36:04.440
for at least three mainstream organizations, like the times of India to write articles about things
00:36:09.700
that I've said on the internet, that's weird. It's really weird. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:36:14.840
Then you have MAGA people shilling for India. You got Jason Miller getting millions of dollars,
00:36:20.040
you know, there you go. There's another, there's another aspect of, of these America first or
00:36:26.240
somehow, you know, hucking for other countries before we wrap Mark, let's take it back here home
00:36:33.260
to America. You know, we spoke a little bit about it and you mentioned the C word, the civil war word
00:36:38.940
where we're at right now. Wanted to make sure we were talking about the same C word
00:36:43.360
where we're at right now. Um, with, with what we're seeing in Portland, what we're seeing in,
00:36:50.380
uh, uh, Minneapolis, and we're going to probably see across other, you know, parts of the country
00:36:56.120
right here in New York. Um, do you think we're heading on that trajectory towards a civil war here
00:37:04.160
in America? Do we get to that point? Uh, do, do we nip it in the bud before we get there? And how does
00:37:09.520
it play out? Uh, well, so the question we ask is how likely is it that a civil war or revolution
00:37:16.260
is coming in the next few years? And the number has been going up. It used to be low thirties,
00:37:20.600
10 years ago. It's in the forties now, 43% last time we said it, it's actually a higher number among
00:37:26.320
the youth close to half and under, under 30 Christians. It was like 56% of them. Like,
00:37:33.160
so the people understands what civil war is Mark. Uh, well, I think, no, I don't think they do
00:37:40.960
because I would objectively say that we're in a cold civil war right now. Yeah. And not a lot of
00:37:45.880
people are talking about that, but a lot of people like, you know, this isn't like, this is a topic
00:37:50.440
people talk about. Tim pool talks about all the time and he's got a huge reach and they just put a
00:37:55.680
movie out like not that long ago envisioning what a modern civil war might look like. I don't think
00:38:00.960
obviously that it's going to be lines of troops standing across cornfield, taking pot shots at
00:38:06.140
each other. I think it'll probably things. I think what we're seeing and what I talked about
00:38:12.400
on Tim pool show is that it will be conflict between state and federal law enforcement is
00:38:18.240
where it will start. And when that's what we're seeing now, and he had some convoluted scenario where
00:38:22.700
it's like, Oh, you got a parent in Texas and the mom takes the kid over to a state where she can get
00:38:28.640
the kid trans and there's a fight over it, blah, blah, blah. No, it's like, we're going to try to
00:38:33.340
arrest somebody like Phil Murphy for harboring illegal aliens. We send in the ice and the state
00:38:39.200
troopers say no. And then what do you do? And this comes down to, and I think the pendulum swings back
00:38:45.380
and forth, right? So it's like when Democrats are in power, it comes down to how intent are they to
00:38:52.820
play out the world economic forum, George Soros color revolution. And the harder they push at a
00:39:00.560
certain point, the right will get mad and take action. And it will look like J six, except they're
00:39:06.680
going to blow up bridges into a blue city or something like that, right? Like that's probably
00:39:10.260
the kind of thing that would happen if the Democrats were in charge. But when the Republicans are in
00:39:14.720
charge, there's a lot less risk of that happening because the government's not going to overreach as
00:39:18.860
much. And so then in my opinion, the ball goes into the Democrat court, which is like, okay,
00:39:23.180
you have these blue States, which as we're finding out are completely, completely hopelessly corrupt
00:39:28.220
and stealing our federal dollars. So there is a moral obligation for a Republican leadership to
00:39:33.120
stop this and take action against these people. And so then you, it all is in their court. Like how
00:39:38.520
aggressive is Gavin Newsom going to be? He wants to be president. His state sucks. We're going to go
00:39:43.380
after the fraud there. And the balls in his court to pull a Fort Sumter is basically what it comes down
00:39:48.680
to. And the second that that thing happens, then people are going to pick their battle lines.
00:39:54.180
You're going to have Chicago and San Francisco basically like, you know, linking arms in order
00:40:00.760
to do whatever they can do. You know, probably most of it will be peaceful, but to resist the federal
00:40:07.100
government in very overt ways, obviously George Soros will have his hands in everything. China will be
00:40:12.440
there. And I don't know it at a certain point, then it just goes hot. And we like, we are seeing this
00:40:18.620
literally right now. Tim Waltz has criminal referrals to the Department of Justice for him.
00:40:27.540
They want to arrest Tim Waltz. He's the governor of Minnesota and he's called for the use of the
00:40:33.360
National Guard to remove ICE agents. And I quite personally think with the level of fraud involved
00:40:40.000
that the federal government has a mandate to go in there and bring this guy to justice.
00:40:44.500
And so the ball's in Tim Waltz's court. He can go peacefully or he can start a civil war.
00:40:50.580
Him and Keith Ellison, both, I guess.
00:40:53.100
Yeah, right.
00:40:53.460
That's right. And that mayor that looks like he has a tapeworm from eating Somali food.
00:41:00.220
Did you see the video of him eating the Somali food? I talked about it yesterday with Steve
00:41:03.420
Gardner. It was so funny. It's like eating and holding his nose, getting ready for the cameras
00:41:07.240
to stop so I can spit it out into a napkin. He's got a beautiful photo of him, which is where
00:41:12.600
it's like from that clip where you can see the second his soul dies like eating it. And
00:41:20.760
he's like, it's beautiful. I'm more of an. Yeah. Every time I see him speaking now, he's
00:41:26.920
like really like pale and sweaty. And obviously he contracted something or the fear of him having
00:41:34.740
to sit down and eat it again is probably in the back. That's right. Oh boy. Mark, we can
00:41:41.300
go for another hour or two hours or three hours, but we'll, we'll cut it here and we'll pick
00:41:47.840
up on it again next week. Mark Mitchell, you get the last word. Yeah. Great to be here.
00:41:53.940
I hadn't done a lot of media in the last few weeks. I love your audience. Hope I didn't
00:41:57.420
piss off too many. I'm not an ageist. I'm not a racist. I just care about America and I don't
00:42:03.620
really care about any other countries. And it looks like we're going to start throwing
00:42:06.880
some elbows, elbows now. We're probably going to roll up, probably going to roll up the
00:42:11.020
Columbia leader. We're probably going to put military bases in Greenland. We might as well
00:42:16.040
just take Canada while we're talking about it. And by the way, Mark, for these people who
00:42:22.940
call it blackpilling to them, I say it's reality, which they're not living in. It's, it's, it's
00:42:28.740
very simple. We're not blackpilling because we hate this country or because we hate Donald Trump
00:42:33.440
or, or, or MAGA or blackpilling because we love all of those things above Mark Mitchell. You can
00:42:38.460
follow him folks on Twitter at honest pollster, uh, Rasmussen reports, uh, on YouTube and you
00:42:44.520
catch Mark each and every time he does a stream over there. Mark Mitchell, we'll talk to you soon,
00:42:48.820
my friend. Yeah. One point. I think that's an important point. I'm just a guy in the basement
00:42:53.600
with some spreadsheets and I ask people questions and I think I had more influence on the Trump
00:42:58.980
administration and the government than Dan Bongino did. You get to those sheets, Mark,
00:43:05.420
Mark Mitchell, a freak in the sheets. We'll talk to you soon, my friend.
00:43:11.820
Later. Thanks to Mark Mitchell folks. And thank you all for being with us today here on the Great
00:43:15.660
America show. We hope to see you back here Monday for the Great America show, truth, justice,
00:43:18.680
and the American way until then may God bless you. May God bless America and may God bless the
00:43:23.400
great who dobs. Have a great weekend. Everybody will see you Monday.
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