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On today's show, The Great America Show, host John Rocha is joined by President Trump's poll numbers guru, Mark Mitchell, to discuss the latest in the Trump administration and what it means for the economy, the stock market, and the midterm elections.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have you with us. Happy
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Friday. We made it through another week in America, and boy, it was an eventful one.
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The chaos ensuing in Minneapolis, and it continues to unfold right now as we sit here
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and speak. Portland, Oregon, too, shot last night as they tried to continue this Democrat
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narrative of thinking it's okay to run over federal agents. It's not going to happen.
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The summer of love is not going to turn into the winter of love. It's just not going to happen,
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no matter how much the Democrats want to try to make it happen. We're expecting a big Supreme
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Court ruling today on Trump's tariffs. We're told it's not coming today, so I guess we'll have to
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wait another week to see if they're going to rule on those. Polly Market and Calci have been
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overwhelmingly showing that the Supreme Court is going to knock down President Trump's tariffs,
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which would be a great disjustice to this country, would be a great disjustice to the stock market.
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And we saw yesterday the number of our trade deficit absolutely cracked at because of these
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tariffs. So we have to sit and wait on that. I got a text early this morning. It was about
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three o'clock in the morning. Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Reports texting me, telling me he's got
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some news to break. President Trump is doing very well, so I want to bring him in right now.
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Mark Mitchell. Tell us, Mark, how's it going? How are the numbers for President Trump today?
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Well, something changed, and I don't know what. And everybody's calling me a black pillar. I'm
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afraid that Dan Bongino is going to come punch me in the face now because, you know, it's getting
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rough out there for us black pillars. And it's like, well, I look at data, you know, and I'm like,
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hey, I want this movement to succeed. And if the data is bad, I'm going to tell you that there's a
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problem. And I've been doing that for the last two months. And I kind of was actually like
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sort of blackpilling before Christmas because I looked at Trump and I'm like, man, he doesn't
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get it. Like he's not doing the things he needs to do. He's not talking about the problems America
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has in the way that I think he needs to. And to give you a too long didn't read, it's basically
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like it seems because he's an old guy or a billionaire or in a bubble or whatever, he
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doesn't understand how bad the economy is for Americans and isn't talking about it correctly
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and how to fix it the right way. And then the other one is it's just been a complete
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goose egg for government reform. And I think America would be OK with not getting the economy
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fully fixed in five years or whatever. I think we understand that this is going to take decades
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to reverse course on all of the wreckage the Uniparty did. But unfortunately, if we go into
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26 and nobody's been arrested, I don't think that there's a good path forward. I really don't.
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Republicans had a mandate. And if if the Republican sweeping all branches of government
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can't fix our problems, then what is the solution? What is the redress of the grievances for American
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people? But the last three days have been absolutely insane. It's like one win after another. And what
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like what happened? Something obviously happened. And they're putting out kind of the same type of
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energy that they were in the beginning of February last year. And that's when Trump was absolutely
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cruising. So his numbers haven't picked up yet, but I really do think they're going to.
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He's been kicking around at about negative nine net approval rating for the last month,
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got down to negative 12. And he's right about where he was in the first term at this point.
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And that was after a recovery from the Russia collusion hoax. And for the rest of his first
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term, Trump was in the 45 to 50 percent range job approval rating. We'll probably see that with
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this Trump as well. It all just comes down to the midterms.
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You mentioned what the two things, the midterms and truth, justice in the American way and
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accountability. And we saw we were talking before the show, James Comer did an interview with
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Catherine Herridge. And he pretty much said, I don't you know, I really don't know what to do
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at this point with Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi has issued nothing. We've given him everything on the auto pen.
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And it seems everything that's given to Pam Bondi, it just expires and expires and expires
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until the next thing comes out. And it's like, oh, well, here's the new shiny object.
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Look at this object. Here's the new shiny object. Look at this object.
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And nothing is getting done. I continue to say this every day, Mark.
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How can the Republican Party go to the voters and say, listen, it's been a year since we've been in
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office. We've done absolutely nothing. We've got the big, beautiful bill, which was President Trump
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by himself that he literally had to go to Capitol Hill to lobby for himself.
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Something very unprecedented for a president to have to do because you have people in place to
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do that for you. You're Speaker of the House. You're my majority leader in the Senate.
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OK, so we've done one thing. We passed the big, beautiful bill. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime.
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Once again, President Trump by himself. OK, arrests. We have absolutely nothing to show for it.
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We ran on getting the deep state. We ran on holding these scumbags accountable. You have nothing.
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How do these politicians, Mark, if they're hiring you, if a politician is hiring you today,
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how do you tell that politician to go to his base, his audience, his his electorate and say,
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vote for me? I've done jack shit. Yeah, I mean, this is the crisis. I think Trump is a very good
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brand man. I think he intuitively understands what his customer needs. And in 2016, what the customer
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America needed was an outsider who was willing to just say, you know what? I'm not a racist. We need
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a wall and China screwing us over. We need to stop China from screwing us over. And now what did
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he run on this time? I think he pretty intelligently knew that America wanted things like
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retribution. And that's a very strong word and a very nonspecific promise. And so when you promise
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American people retribution and when Americans fundamentally know that the problem is the government
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and you don't deliver any of that stuff, I think you're going to see more of what we're seeing
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with Dan Bongino right now, which is somebody who was pretty beloved as an influencer, huge following
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massive show. And now everybody on the social media is just trolling this guy because he's coming out of
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the gate swinging. He's fighting his own movement on social media more than he fought within the FBI to
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actually fix these problems with not a shred of humility. And so I think that this is a very
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cautionary tale because people are fed up, obviously, with Pam Bondi. And one of the
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questions is, why hasn't Trump done anything? And now here's the other issue, too, is that we all
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know there's a deep state. We all know that the Department of Justice is probably full of a bunch
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of scumbags that haven't been fired. But at the end of the day, if Trump was unable to find those
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people and fire them and replace them with patriotic Americans, then what is the redress for the
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grievances of Americans? And the answer is, I don't think he was making those lists of lawyers
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that to come in and take over. And I don't think that stuff was done. And so if we look at this
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situation, which is if there's no accountability, we might be in a shooting civil war. Republicans
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might lose for generations. Donald Trump might have zero legacy. He might be a laughingstock
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because this is kind of a rug pull to promise retribution and give America Pam Bondi with no arrests
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is a bit of a rug pull. And Trump is sitting in the White House and watching this and not doing
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anything about it. And so if the if the system is so unaccountable and if Americans can never have
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an elected representative arrested, in my opinion, there's almost an ethical or moral obligation
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to burn down for the American people. If it's not going to work, don't say, well, we can't find
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somebody guilty in D.C. So we're going to try him in Florida. No, no, no. Try them in D.C. Get the
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evidence out and let the American people see them walk, arrest 10,000 people. They all walk and we
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all know what time it is. It's it's much worse than what you just said, by the way, Mark, you'd said
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if we can't find these people, we've found them, Mark, we found them and we promote them. It's known
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there's people on Twitter who do this work each and every day, Mark. I think it was the head of
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the FBI field office in Virginia, who's a January 6th. I think it was the FBI. It was the Virginia
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field office. These people are not being fired, Mark. They're being promoted. People under Christopher
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Ray, Cash Patel should have went in there with Dan Bongino and fired every single person. Now they
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say you can't do it. How do you know? You've never tried it. They told us Donald Trump couldn't win
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in 2016 because he wasn't a politician and we tried it. It worked out. It works. So it's
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exactly what America needed. Right. We can't do it. No, you can do it. You just don't want to do it
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because it breaks the status quo. Bongino wants to come out here and do this whole tough guy act
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like he's this big tough guy. He's this big gangster. Then you weren't a gangster. You were a
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secret service agent turned podcaster. OK, like let's cut out the tough guy act. Let's cut out the big
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gangster act like you're this big and just like let's stop it there. We're all professionals
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here. We're not we're not gangsters. OK, but he's out there crashing out Mark each and every day on
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Twitter. He's literally the new Mark Levin. Not that Mark Levin has gone gone by the wayside,
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but he's literally the new Mark Levin. As you said, crashing out against the very people who
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supported him. They're not speaking out against him. They're speaking out against the system that
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he went in there. And instead of Dan coming out and being honest with us about why he did
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absolutely nothing, he's coming out with this hatred and anger. Why would you ask about the
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Epstein files? You're a black pillar and I'm coming for you. I'm like, what? I even heard that he's
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calling up influencers behind the scenes and threatening them. Oh, I actually know somebody that that
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happened to. Can you tell us who? No, I won't. I'll tell you later. I know. Oh, God. But yeah,
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wild. And what's he going to what's he threatening? What's he going to do? Is he going to beat them
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up? He's going to shoot. What's he going to do? He's going to talk to talk tough, John. It is a
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crash out. He looked like he sounds like he sounds like an Israel first or who took a little bit too
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much pro hormones is what it sounds like. It sounds like we got a little bit of like, you know, maybe
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testosterone replacement roid rage going on or something like that. Or maybe he's just been
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chomping at the bit for 10 months. But I can tell you objectively, he failed at his job because I
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just retweeted. I found the tweet from February today and went back and looked and let's just like,
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let's just read this thing. Where is it? It's not that far back. Oh, this is bad TV. No,
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you could just read Dan Bongino has accepted the position of deputy director of the FBI as part of
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a broader effort to restore public trust and reinforce the integrity of one of America's
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most crucial institutions, February 24th. Well, we just pulled a few weeks ago and 83% of Trump voters
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say that major agencies like the FBI and the CIA still need massive reform. And so he failed.
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Like he objectively said he was going to restore trust, did some stuff. And now he's attacking
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influencers with zero self-awareness or humility.
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He's literally the new Mark Levin. And for people who aren't on Twitter, Mark Levin has been on this
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downward trajectory. And I mean, he's taunted by certain people. Mark is one of them. They go after
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this man, but he's out there calling, he called Megan Kelly, who for however old Megan Kelly is,
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I think she's somewhere in her fifties. He called her like this crap pot. Megan Kelly's beautiful for
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what she's like a 50 year old woman. Who's she's beautiful. She reads his early forties for sure.
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Right. She's in very good shape. She, she, and, and, and like you said, reads in her forties,
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Mark Levin, big, bald headed, big eared Mark Levin is out here for you. You know,
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say she's ugly and this and that. And you're like, this is, this is what it's come down to.
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Mark Levin, who was once this highly well-respected attorney turned a television commentator.
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I can never listen to the guy. The guy's voice was like, Oh, he's hostile to people too. It's so
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insulting and angry. And it's like boomer slop, man. My dad used to eat that stuff up. He loved it.
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Yeah. But that guy's like one missed angiogram away from like the widow maker. And here he is
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like calling out like Megan Kelly. I mean, you can't make this stuff up, but I don't know if
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you knew this, John, I'm up to 11 ratios of Mark Levin. And I want it to be said that I never came
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after this guy first. Why this happened is that he said that you can't be conservative and support
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Tucker Carlson. And I said, I support Tucker Carlson, an American exercising his first amendment
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protected right of free speech. And that was enough to make Mark Levin my enemy. He called
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all of a sudden he's using, he quoted five 38 John to try and attack Rasmussen reports,
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which is like literally quoting Satan to attack the Pope, but you're a Catholic. It's like
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unbelievable. And I ratioed him 11 times with 40 times less followers. It's to the point where
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we started calling him a lol cow. And what does Dan Bongino do in the first 24 hours of his new
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civilian life on Twitter? He retweets Mark Levin two times. I think he's up to four retweets now.
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And about one third of this guy's retweets are Israeli firsters. He's literally retweeting like
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Josh Hammer and fricking Ben Shapiro. And it's like Ben Shapiro is hemorrhaging a thousand YouTube
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subscribers a day. He is like, I'm sorry. And you can look at the straw poll that Rich Barris did.
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Like Israel is a losing issue in the conservative movement and they're shoving people out of the big
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tent. They're ejecting people. It's like Israel's got a bouncer at the doors of the America first
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big tent and they don't want these people there. And that's not how you win elections. You got to
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find common cause with these people. This is going to horrify some of your viewers, but Donald Trump
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and the MAGA movement needs Nick Fuentes voters. They need those people.
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Let's stop right there because that's actually what started and what provoked the Mark Levin,
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Megyn Kelly thing. And I want to pull it up here so we can listen to it together. This is what
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Megyn Kelly had to say about Nick Fuentes that absolutely drove Mark Levin berserk.
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He's very interesting and he's very smart. And on a lot of things, there is value to be derived
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from that guy's messaging. I'm sorry, but he actually has a lot of things he talks about that
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you're like, oh, this is not a bad point about our country.
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Which Megyn Kelly, and this was Ian Malish-Chung, who I don't even think is an American, to Mitch,
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Megyn Kelly replied, you're a pathetic misinformation whore. I was explaining why young white men are
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listening to Fuentes and made clear that while I believe he makes interesting points about the
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government, et cetera, I was not speaking about his thoughts on Jews, women's, blacks, et cetera,
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F you and your lies, to which Mark Levin crashes out and called her a nasty, aging crackpot.
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If she's a nasty, aging crackpot, what the F are you is what I had to say to Mark.
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I mean, you're absolutely right. I mean, do I agree with everything Nick Funtas says?
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No, but I don't agree with everything everyone says anyway. And I don't think you do either.
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Everyone makes, you know, imagine having to be accountability. Like, why do I have to be
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accountable for words? Some person I don't know says, you know what I mean? Right.
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Like I'm allowed to say, wow, he made a good idea and say, here's a good idea.
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But let's be adults here. Like, because he said something else doesn't invalidate the fact that
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this is a good idea or not. Are we freaking sheep or are we men with God given agency and independent
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free will? Like, seriously, like, are these not the liberal founding ideals of America?
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And obviously, for people who care about Israel more than America, they are having a hard time
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getting that. But it's turning up over and over again. I spoke to 120 Republicans in Colorado two days
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ago. Sure enough, there was a guy there who was like, well, what about Nick Fuentes? And where does
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that fit into things? And I refuse to condemn the guy. And, you know, I gave a longer answer, but
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more is it to do so. Yeah. Like, why is why is it my job? I don't keep track of everything
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everybody else has said. But here's what I specifically said to these people is that you
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need those voters and there needs to be room in the big tent for people who are not.
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So here's what folks don't understand anymore is that these boomer guys, they'll be like,
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oh, I grew up on El Rushbo. And they'll be like, OK, well, like 95 percent of their political views
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are formed by Rush Limbaugh. And that's not how this new generation operates, period, whatsoever.
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It's like they are parsing everything. And so Nick Fuentes probably has got about 100,000
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Groypers. He does. There are people that will call themselves Groypers. They will brigade comments.
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They will call you an old head, you know, and stuff like that. Right. I'm one of the
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Groypers call me one of the rare old heads that gets it. And then there's about five to 10 million
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humans, most of them young men who just happen to have watched Nick Fuentes content and agreed with
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it. And they don't call themselves Groypers. They're not Nick Fuentes followers. They watch Candace.
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They probably watch Ben Shapiro, too. They watch all kinds of people and they don't identify with
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this person. And they look at people attacking Nick Fuentes and they're like, what the hell are
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you doing? Like this isn't helpful. You're not talking to me. You're just raging. You're like
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the old man from The Simpsons yelling at the cloud. That's literally what they think about
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these people. And and then you also have to understand, too, that this is generational warfare
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and that Nick Fuentes and his anti-Semitism Holocaust denial stick is the equivalent of like
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your 1950s greaser. Like basically, it's the guy that is acting. It's a rebellion. It's purposeful
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rebellion. And if you hear Nick Fuentes talk, he actually doesn't really care about Israel that
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much at all. He's not anti-Semitic. He has said it's a shtick to get attention and it's worked
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gloriously. Now, is it the best thing for the conservative movement? I don't know, but it certainly
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has disrupted a certain foreign government's ability to maintain control over the influence
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that it's had over the party for decades. Right. So it's kind of glorious to see that
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like one guy just saying insane stuff on the Internet has caused this much damage.
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Now, Mark, he's a genius to look at the other side of this. Now, you've got someone like Laura
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Loomer who crashes out, Mark, just as much as Mark Levin and Dan Mangino, if not more,
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if anyone dare say anything about Israel or their government or anything like that,
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or go to any sort of country that's Muslim run or Muslim dominant religion or anything like that,
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taking on war with Tucker Carlson. I mean, it's gotten so pathetic to the fact of her
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commenting on Tucker Carlson being on Ozempic. I mean, could you look in the mirror at yourself
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first at a plastic surgery case gone? I mean, absolute rogue. But that's what it's come down to
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this weird, absolutely strange crash out. And it's like they monitor the Internet, Mark.
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Anything said or done, it's a crash out from Loomer or, you know, the her wing of the crazies.
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Well, I don't know if you saw this. I'm trying to find the tweet, but it was just revealed in a
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Times of Israel article within the last 24 hours, I think, that Bibi Netanyahu has been accused by
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his own people of actually operating a massive army of influencer bots and influencer bots.
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And it's kind of interesting because that's what they accuse Qatar of doing. And it turns out that
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it's probably the Likud party. And I think it's reasonable to believe based on that reporting by
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probably pretty good journalists over there that, you know, look, an investigation by Channel 12 found
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that about half of politically active Israeli social media accounts are bots, with many amplifying
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posts by PM Netanyahu and other members of his coalition. And so it is kind of interesting how
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rapidly Laura Loomer and Mark Levin and these other folks and the ones I've only blocked three people
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ever. But there's a bunch of these people that are basically just the frickin Hasbara accounts like
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Max Abrams and stuff like that. And they will glom onto you and stick with you almost as if they've
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been assigned. They really have. And it's peculiar behavior. And I don't want to get in trouble with
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Laura Loomer. I'm actually very afraid of her, to be honest with you, I think. But, you know,
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when I look at your wife and children, that's what she does. Yeah. You know, you know,
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the funny thing is, is Mark, is these same people are the are the same people who will scream America
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first. You know, like I'm America first. I am the definition of America first. It's me. If you
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Google America first, it's a picture of me as they're over here lobbying for every other country.
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Well, you know, what's weird, too, is that like she has done good journalism. She has done good work.
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She has been a member of the American movement. You're absolutely right. It's like, OK, 20 percent of the
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posts. You're like, what the hell? You're you're saying this? It doesn't make sense to lose credit.
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Yeah, that's right. So, oh, 100 percent. And my my litmus test is you can always go back to
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patriots.win, which is the second form of the original Reddit, the Donald, which was the largest
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online community of Trump supporters. And these people like moderated the community on purpose to
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be entirely pro Trump. And if Trump did something wrong, they would call it 40 chess. You know what
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I mean? Like they would literally be apologists for Trump. And so if you go to patriots.win
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and just compare what Laura Loomer saying versus what like the most Trumpy community on the Internet
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is saying, if she's to the right of that cheerleading a Trump thing, it's probably something that's
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beneficial for Israel. Like that's my litmus test. Yeah, you know, one hundred hit 50 percent. Right.
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Let's pivot from Israel now to another country. And let's get on that again, John. I committed myself
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to not bring this topic up because it's these influencers that, you know, they want to go at
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Nick Fuentes or X, Y and Z. But, you know, on the other side, it's you know, it's it's it's all crickets
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and it can't be like that. If you want to call out one side, that's fine. Call out the other side,
00:22:25.980
too. And let's let's make it fair and let's make it even. Let's turn to another one of your
00:22:30.020
favorite countries. And that's the good old Somalian folks. Scott Besson, who's very steadfast
00:22:35.620
in getting, I think, things done, announcing with Laura Ingram last night that he is investigating
00:22:43.300
the fraud and they're going to start looking into some of these people who are on government subsidies.
00:22:47.700
These Somalians are government subsidies and sending money outside of the country.
00:22:51.080
Let's take a look. Outrage. President Trump is outraged. I'm outraged. The whole administration
00:22:55.220
is outraged. And we are here to follow the money because that's what Treasury does.
00:23:00.160
We have done that for years. We did it with the mafia. We have done it with the cartels.
00:23:05.980
And now we are going to do it the with these Somali fraudsters. And Treasury has something
00:23:13.680
called FinCEN, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network. And we are coming in and we're coming
00:23:20.740
in. Tomorrow we are announcing that four investigations into money service businesses that we believe
00:23:28.820
may have wired money out of the country, a lot of the ill-gotten stolen money over to the
00:23:35.440
Middle East, over to Somalia. We'll see where that's going. So we're announcing investigations
00:23:39.940
into four of those money service businesses. We are going to put in what we call a geographical
00:23:46.920
targeting order. So there's something called Suspicious Activity Report. If a certain amount
00:23:54.080
of money gets wired anywhere. So we're lowering that to $3,000. And we're also targeting the two
00:24:02.080
counties here. And we're going to do enhanced surveillance. And from now on, anyone who wires
00:24:08.800
money out from one of these money service businesses has to check a box saying whether
00:24:14.260
they are on public assistance. And if you are on public assistance, we are going to.
00:24:20.580
That's great. He went on to say that they're going to pull that. And those monies transfer
00:24:25.800
services are, for example, for folks listening, like Western Union and MoneyGram and things like
00:24:30.760
that, where you can send money over as well as wiring through directly to a bank. That's excellent.
00:24:35.240
I think Scott Besson's doing a terrific job. But at the end of the day, Mark, should they find any
00:24:42.120
Yeah, I know. That's what I was going to say. It's like, this guy's doing the heavy lifting here.
00:24:45.880
And I feel bad for him. And I'd heard about that, but I hadn't seen the clip. I hadn't seen the
00:24:49.640
details. First, let's just step back and say that if Donald Trump had just stuck with Doge and just
00:24:55.520
said, you know what? Screw my legislative agenda. Let's just burn the federal government to the down
00:24:59.420
or down. Let's audit Fort Knox. Let's go into the DOD defenses. If he had just done that,
00:25:04.140
I think his administration would have been a lot more successful because it would have been
00:25:08.260
something permanent and tangible that he gave the American people that they needed, which is
00:25:11.840
draining the swamp. But unfortunately, the Republican Party, in my opinion, is the one
00:25:16.040
that got rid of Doge. And it was a huge blow to Trump. And I think we can all agree that his six
00:25:21.100
months kind of since the end of Doge has been substandard, not what people expected. And so
00:25:27.880
all of this Minnesota fraud is kind of rewinding it back to the Doge period, where I think why
00:25:35.340
everybody was freaking out with joy was because Trump got elected because people didn't trust the
00:25:41.080
federal government and Doge validated how bad it was. And so when you worry about the future of the
00:25:46.500
country and our finances and you say, well, how are we going to have Social Security? We can't even,
00:25:51.220
you know what I mean? When it instead looks like 10 to 20% of our finances is literally just being
00:25:58.200
stolen, there's a lot easier answer out. You just arrest everybody. And the problem is solved.
00:26:03.720
And Besson himself is implying that as much as $300 to $600 billion annually of our government
00:26:10.140
expenditures is literally just fraud and malfeasance, not even talking about inefficiency or waste.
00:26:15.160
Then all of a sudden you've handed the American people a light at the end of the tunnel again.
00:26:21.600
And I think that this is a gift for Trump because I don't think the Republicans can govern. I just
00:26:25.600
don't. We've tried it. They're not going to do it. They're stabbing America in the back.
00:26:29.400
And so Trump should literally just go whole hog. Then I've seen a lot of creative stuff over the last
00:26:34.080
two or three days. We have a new assistant attorney general for fraud just got announced. We have a lot
00:26:38.840
of other stuff going on. Besson came out with this and I feel sad for him because it's a great idea.
00:26:45.160
Let's take everybody on government assistance and not allow them to do any remittances. That's
00:26:50.180
unbelievable. That's beautiful. That's like a work of Mozart, right? The problem is that the only way
00:26:56.020
he has to do it is they have to self ID with a freaking checkbox. And so where is the rest of
00:27:01.480
the government? What should we be doing? We should be declaring martial law in Minnesota and the entire
00:27:06.980
all those 80,000 IRS agents with guns that we didn't fire should be there. Like everybody should be
00:27:12.960
there. We should literally occupy Minnesota and there should be freaking public show trials of
00:27:19.580
the people who stole. This is not petty theft. This is not grand larceny. I even think we should
00:27:26.960
have. I was promised military tribunals, John, like quite frankly. And if stealing a hundred billion
00:27:32.920
dollars doesn't get you there and and if saying if threatening to bring a national guard troops
00:27:39.980
to attack federal agents doesn't get you there like we America has been worried about a revolution
00:27:48.020
civil war increasingly the number got up to 43 percent Democrats are begging for it like give them
00:27:55.000
brutal accountability and the under 40 voters specifically even the leftists they will eat
00:28:01.420
this up. They want the system fixed. They want these people to cry salty tears. The process is the
00:28:07.400
punishment. The tears are the reward for the American people that have been screwed. And you know,
00:28:14.080
Scott Besson, poor guys like out there. It's it's him. It's JD. Like who else is really doing the
00:28:21.440
heavy lifting here? Well, it depends. The department RFK is doing a hell of a job. You know, there's a few
00:28:27.020
of them who are, you know, Besson's one not to mess with as far as I'm we were talking about
00:28:30.920
gangsters before and Dan Bongino. I'm concerned the only person I've ever heard actually throw
00:28:35.820
hands up was Scott Besson. So he's not what someone actually told me a story as a as young
00:28:41.780
kid. I would pay to watch that fight, John. Well, listen, so someone was very close to him
00:28:45.960
growing up being a gay guy in the Carolinas was not easy for him. So he took up boxing and you know,
00:28:56.600
very seriously and used to put beatdowns on people. So he's the only person I've ever heard
00:29:01.760
of confirmed from people that he's tried to fight Elon Musk, Bill Pulte. And I think there's one
00:29:09.060
other person, Bill Pulte from FHFA. I guess it's Elon a shiner. I don't know. I think they said that
00:29:16.800
he was the one who gave you on the black eye. I'm not sure if that's true, but I've heard that
00:29:21.900
from multiple. I kind of appreciate that, to be honest with you. I mean, you know, I believe the best
00:29:25.580
in people and even somebody who works in politics and I'm really naive, but I look at Scott Besson
00:29:31.020
talk and every time I hear him talk, he feels just principled. You know what I mean? Like I just
00:29:37.100
innately get that from him. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's common soothing. And but I think it's hysterical.
00:29:43.960
So all of this leads now, Mark, to actually before we get to that, let's talk about another one of
00:29:54.520
your favorite foreign countries. And that's India. Maybe looking at a 500 percent tariff on the
00:29:59.920
Belgeets. What says you, Mark? I know it's one of your favorite countries and I know that you admire
00:30:05.420
these people greatly and I know, you know, they do a really good job. By the way, I got invited to
00:30:10.400
somebody, but by somebody to take a trip over to India to look at some opportunities over there,
00:30:16.060
business opportunities. And I respectfully declined. But what says you?
00:30:23.760
The background here is that I had to teach John about the UNICEF poo in the loo.
00:30:30.180
From 2013 that actually exists where they literally paid pollsters, I guess, or whoever to gather this
00:30:42.180
statistic to determine that as of like 1995 or whenever, over 50 percent of all world open
00:30:49.580
defecation instances per capita happened in the country of India. It's real data, folks.
00:30:57.840
So, oh, man. Well, OK, for people who don't know the lore, I worked in tech and H-1Bs is way worse
00:31:06.600
than anybody knows. And the H-1B program from an economic perspective is what's hurting the younger
00:31:13.480
people who should be getting white collar salary jobs by far the most out of anything. I would put
00:31:18.580
them in order H-1B, then offshoring and then finally illegal immigration. And so to me, the H-1B has
00:31:25.280
always been the low hanging fruit of we just need to get rid of this. And obviously, it was legislated
00:31:30.320
by George H.W. Bush in the 1990 Immigration Act. And it actually still polls well, but it's being
00:31:35.520
abused by corporations. And so to me, this was always the sticking point, which is if Trump isn't
00:31:40.360
talking negatively about the H-1B program, it means that these big corporations have his ear.
00:31:46.480
And India specifically is over 72 percent of all of our temporary visas. And there are almost all of
00:31:54.320
the high paying jobs. So literally, India has taken the future of the American people. They can't buy
00:31:59.780
houses. They can't form families because the Indians are doing it instead. And it would be really easy
00:32:05.660
to fix because Trump levied a new social media requirement in the interview process for H-1Bs in
00:32:12.180
Chennai. And it costs holy hell. There are people that couldn't get these interviews scheduled for
00:32:17.060
months and months and freaking out and getting fired from their jobs. So there's a lot of stuff
00:32:20.520
they could do. And even the H-1B fee that he put in place is not perfect. It exempts students.
00:32:26.280
And so all it's doing is making the Indians take a BS eight-month master's program in order to
00:32:31.260
still steal the jobs. But where we're at now is that pretty much every Fortune 100 company at least
00:32:37.280
has a significant foothold of Indian engineering. And it's all kickbacks and nepotism.
00:32:43.540
And so what I'm afraid about, John, we haven't really talked about this,
00:32:46.580
is that with Venezuela, I think there's an aspect of election integrity. I think that's one of the
00:32:51.400
reasons that Trump went there. But I also think it's a lot to do with China and oil. And if you see
00:32:56.980
Trump's out there increasing, calling for the increase of the Department of Defense from $1 trillion to $1.5
00:33:03.720
trillion, which would be a major investment in the US military at a time when NATO is also talking
00:33:10.440
about putting troops in Ukraine for safety guarantees and putting... Basically, NATO troops
00:33:16.800
are going to be put in a situation where we're going to be in contact with Russian troops.
00:33:20.580
And so what I'm afraid of is that I feel like there's this situation where we get in,
00:33:27.400
where the world all realizes that everything's gotten screwed up and that the only way out is a
00:33:32.200
massive shooting war. And I think we're getting pretty close because I think we're finding out
00:33:38.200
increasingly that Iran, Russia, and China in a coordinated manner are behind some of these
00:33:44.460
things like the Somali fraud ring. It was implicated that Iran is receiving some of the money that's
00:33:48.880
getting sent to Somalia. I think we're going to find that they've all been coordinated against
00:33:52.660
America. Well, they're members of the competing currency block, the BRICS.
00:33:56.960
So is India. And India is in a position to sabotage the engineering of every corporation
00:34:04.920
basically in America that counts. 90% of our stock market value has a significant foothold of Indians
00:34:11.620
in engineering where they could sabotage. Not even engineering leadership as well.
00:34:15.540
Yeah. They make them the VPs. They make them the C-level. C-level. C-level. Yeah.
00:34:21.000
So yes. Microsoft. Google. Google. Yeah. It's an overwhelming majority of them.
00:34:28.640
Yeah. Like what happens if we get in a war with China and Russia and India has to decide
00:34:33.220
and it looks better to, you know, stick with the people who are literally adjacent to you.
00:34:40.020
And all of a sudden, Google, who probably has like, what, 60% market share on everybody's
00:34:47.020
operating systems for their phones, has all that data that's in everybody's Gmail accounts,
00:34:53.360
has all these photos, has that, are they going to use that information? Like, where does that go?
00:35:01.120
And I think that that's very, very, very possible future. And so now Trump has gone out and
00:35:07.440
literally because of skirting the sanctions. And of course, I guess, Western Europe is skirting
00:35:12.440
the Russian sanctions as well, but he's threatened a 500% tariff on India. And that's profoundly high.
00:35:21.780
And we're, so we're dealing with them in a very hostile manner when they own every single one of
00:35:26.220
our fortune 100s. It's really weird. And yet he didn't talk about tariffing offshores, you know,
00:35:30.360
like a 50% tariff on offshore labor would be a bigger hit probably than the 500% increase.
00:35:37.540
So I don't know where it goes, but I know that India hates me and they write articles about me
00:35:41.120
because they, they're such gangsters and people are so afraid in corporate America that they will
00:35:48.460
be unemployable by talking bad about the H1B program. There's really only about 10 of us that did it.
00:35:53.420
And so I'm not, that's not even my thing. I'm a pollster and the H1B program's popular because
00:35:59.140
Americans like the idea of taking talented people from, but if the, what little I've said is enough
00:36:04.440
for at least three mainstream organizations, like the times of India to write articles about things
00:36:09.700
that I've said on the internet, that's weird. It's really weird. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:36:14.840
Then you have MAGA people shilling for India. You got Jason Miller getting millions of dollars,
00:36:20.040
you know, there you go. There's another, there's another aspect of, of these America first or
00:36:26.240
somehow, you know, hucking for other countries before we wrap Mark, let's take it back here home
00:36:33.260
to America. You know, we spoke a little bit about it and you mentioned the C word, the civil war word
00:36:38.940
where we're at right now. Wanted to make sure we were talking about the same C word
00:36:43.360
where we're at right now. Um, with, with what we're seeing in Portland, what we're seeing in,
00:36:50.380
uh, uh, Minneapolis, and we're going to probably see across other, you know, parts of the country
00:36:56.120
right here in New York. Um, do you think we're heading on that trajectory towards a civil war here
00:37:04.160
in America? Do we get to that point? Uh, do, do we nip it in the bud before we get there? And how does
00:37:09.520
it play out? Uh, well, so the question we ask is how likely is it that a civil war or revolution
00:37:16.260
is coming in the next few years? And the number has been going up. It used to be low thirties,
00:37:20.600
10 years ago. It's in the forties now, 43% last time we said it, it's actually a higher number among
00:37:26.320
the youth close to half and under, under 30 Christians. It was like 56% of them. Like,
00:37:33.160
so the people understands what civil war is Mark. Uh, well, I think, no, I don't think they do
00:37:40.960
because I would objectively say that we're in a cold civil war right now. Yeah. And not a lot of
00:37:45.880
people are talking about that, but a lot of people like, you know, this isn't like, this is a topic
00:37:50.440
people talk about. Tim pool talks about all the time and he's got a huge reach and they just put a
00:37:55.680
movie out like not that long ago envisioning what a modern civil war might look like. I don't think
00:38:00.960
obviously that it's going to be lines of troops standing across cornfield, taking pot shots at
00:38:06.140
each other. I think it'll probably things. I think what we're seeing and what I talked about
00:38:12.400
on Tim pool show is that it will be conflict between state and federal law enforcement is
00:38:18.240
where it will start. And when that's what we're seeing now, and he had some convoluted scenario where
00:38:22.700
it's like, Oh, you got a parent in Texas and the mom takes the kid over to a state where she can get
00:38:28.640
the kid trans and there's a fight over it, blah, blah, blah. No, it's like, we're going to try to
00:38:33.340
arrest somebody like Phil Murphy for harboring illegal aliens. We send in the ice and the state
00:38:39.200
troopers say no. And then what do you do? And this comes down to, and I think the pendulum swings back
00:38:45.380
and forth, right? So it's like when Democrats are in power, it comes down to how intent are they to
00:38:52.820
play out the world economic forum, George Soros color revolution. And the harder they push at a
00:39:00.560
certain point, the right will get mad and take action. And it will look like J six, except they're
00:39:06.680
going to blow up bridges into a blue city or something like that, right? Like that's probably
00:39:10.260
the kind of thing that would happen if the Democrats were in charge. But when the Republicans are in
00:39:14.720
charge, there's a lot less risk of that happening because the government's not going to overreach as
00:39:18.860
much. And so then in my opinion, the ball goes into the Democrat court, which is like, okay,
00:39:23.180
you have these blue States, which as we're finding out are completely, completely hopelessly corrupt
00:39:28.220
and stealing our federal dollars. So there is a moral obligation for a Republican leadership to
00:39:33.120
stop this and take action against these people. And so then you, it all is in their court. Like how
00:39:38.520
aggressive is Gavin Newsom going to be? He wants to be president. His state sucks. We're going to go
00:39:43.380
after the fraud there. And the balls in his court to pull a Fort Sumter is basically what it comes down
00:39:48.680
to. And the second that that thing happens, then people are going to pick their battle lines.
00:39:54.180
You're going to have Chicago and San Francisco basically like, you know, linking arms in order
00:40:00.760
to do whatever they can do. You know, probably most of it will be peaceful, but to resist the federal
00:40:07.100
government in very overt ways, obviously George Soros will have his hands in everything. China will be
00:40:12.440
there. And I don't know it at a certain point, then it just goes hot. And we like, we are seeing this
00:40:18.620
literally right now. Tim Waltz has criminal referrals to the Department of Justice for him.
00:40:27.540
They want to arrest Tim Waltz. He's the governor of Minnesota and he's called for the use of the
00:40:33.360
National Guard to remove ICE agents. And I quite personally think with the level of fraud involved
00:40:40.000
that the federal government has a mandate to go in there and bring this guy to justice.
00:40:44.500
And so the ball's in Tim Waltz's court. He can go peacefully or he can start a civil war.
00:40:53.460
That's right. And that mayor that looks like he has a tapeworm from eating Somali food.
00:41:00.220
Did you see the video of him eating the Somali food? I talked about it yesterday with Steve
00:41:03.420
Gardner. It was so funny. It's like eating and holding his nose, getting ready for the cameras
00:41:07.240
to stop so I can spit it out into a napkin. He's got a beautiful photo of him, which is where
00:41:12.600
it's like from that clip where you can see the second his soul dies like eating it. And
00:41:20.760
he's like, it's beautiful. I'm more of an. Yeah. Every time I see him speaking now, he's
00:41:26.920
like really like pale and sweaty. And obviously he contracted something or the fear of him having
00:41:34.740
to sit down and eat it again is probably in the back. That's right. Oh boy. Mark, we can
00:41:41.300
go for another hour or two hours or three hours, but we'll, we'll cut it here and we'll pick
00:41:47.840
up on it again next week. Mark Mitchell, you get the last word. Yeah. Great to be here.
00:41:53.940
I hadn't done a lot of media in the last few weeks. I love your audience. Hope I didn't
00:41:57.420
piss off too many. I'm not an ageist. I'm not a racist. I just care about America and I don't
00:42:03.620
really care about any other countries. And it looks like we're going to start throwing
00:42:06.880
some elbows, elbows now. We're probably going to roll up, probably going to roll up the
00:42:11.020
Columbia leader. We're probably going to put military bases in Greenland. We might as well
00:42:16.040
just take Canada while we're talking about it. And by the way, Mark, for these people who
00:42:22.940
call it blackpilling to them, I say it's reality, which they're not living in. It's, it's, it's
00:42:28.740
very simple. We're not blackpilling because we hate this country or because we hate Donald Trump
00:42:33.440
or, or, or MAGA or blackpilling because we love all of those things above Mark Mitchell. You can
00:42:38.460
follow him folks on Twitter at honest pollster, uh, Rasmussen reports, uh, on YouTube and you
00:42:44.520
catch Mark each and every time he does a stream over there. Mark Mitchell, we'll talk to you soon,
00:42:48.820
my friend. Yeah. One point. I think that's an important point. I'm just a guy in the basement
00:42:53.600
with some spreadsheets and I ask people questions and I think I had more influence on the Trump
00:42:58.980
administration and the government than Dan Bongino did. You get to those sheets, Mark,
00:43:05.420
Mark Mitchell, a freak in the sheets. We'll talk to you soon, my friend.
00:43:11.820
Later. Thanks to Mark Mitchell folks. And thank you all for being with us today here on the Great
00:43:15.660
America show. We hope to see you back here Monday for the Great America show, truth, justice,
00:43:18.680
and the American way until then may God bless you. May God bless America and may God bless the
00:43:23.400
great who dobs. Have a great weekend. Everybody will see you Monday.