SHOCKING Secrets： Who Else is Shielded by the DOJ？
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In this episode of The Great America Show, host Jesse Waters is joined by attorney Kevin Evans, who has been suing the Department of Justice for years to get access to documents related to the indictments of Joe and Joe Biden and the money they made. The documents have not been released.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have you with us. Thanks
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so much for spending your night with us here in America or wherever around the world that
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you're joining us from. Today, I want to do a deep breakdown, a deep dive into something
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that we've all been witnessing, something that we've all been wondering about since
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Donald Trump took office in January. And it's the Attorney General of the United States,
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Department of Justice, it's the FBI and what exactly they are doing. We're now months into
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this administration. We have no Epstein documents. We were promised Epstein documents. The RFK,
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the JFK files, not entirely released, still thousands of pages that are withheld. And we
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have a guest today, a very special guest. He's going to be joining us in just a few moments,
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Attorney Kevin Evans, who's been suing the Department of Justice since 2022 over documents
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that pertain to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and Jim Biden and money that they made overseas.
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It's going on now for almost four years. And he still doesn't have the documents that they confirmed
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that they had. Now, it's understandable before Donald Trump took office in January,
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why the Department of Justice would be covering for the Bidens, right? It's Joe Biden, it's Merrick
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Garland, it's the whole bureaucratic garbage, dumpster fire that's protected this man his entire
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career. But now Donald Trump is in office, Kash Patel is at the FBI, Pam Bondi is at the helm of
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the DOJ. You would think that these people would want the truth out about the 2020 election,
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things that happened, irregularities, things that the Bidens did, where the Bidens made their money.
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They're so excited. They were so excited to go after Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020,
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spied on him, tried to ruin his life, fingerprinted him, arrested him, mugshot at him.
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You would think that his administration, and I'm not saying him, but his administration
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would want to look into some of the things that happened, some of the miscarriages of justice
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that have went on in this country. But now months into this administration, seemingly,
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it doesn't seem like that's the case. Now, why? Back in February, I think the date was February 21st,
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Pam Bondi went on Fox News and broke some news. Take a listen.
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The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?
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It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm
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reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed,
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because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
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So have you seen anything that you said, oh my gosh?
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At the directive of the president, President Trump ordered her to release the documents.
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March, April, we're now into the first week of May. Okay. I understand. It takes a little bit
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of time to get those documents. Let's keep that date in mind. February 21st.
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Now, just days later, Pam Bondi went on Jesse Waters' show, also on Fox News,
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One of the things a lot of people are wondering, because you said last week that you have the
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Epstein files on your desk, is when can we see them and what's taking so long to release them?
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I do. Jesse, there are well over, this will make you sick, 200 victims. 200.
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So we have, well over, over 250, actually. So we have to make sure that their identity
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is protected and their personal information. But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know,
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the personal information of victims. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse,
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breaking news right now, you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office.
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Now, we all remember what happened on that tomorrow date. Pam Bondi invited a group of
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conservative influencers to the White House. She gave out binders that said Epstein files. It was
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200 or so pages. Now, you often hear me make fun of her about that because she says those are the
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documents. Now, any attorney, and I'm not an attorney, okay, by no stretch of the imagination.
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But I've read quite a few of court cases, quite a few briefings. And I know that something as simple
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as a DUI, a petty theft, there's going to be more than 200 documents in the case. So that didn't
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really make much sense. So what did Pam Bondi release on that day? She released Jeffrey Epstein's
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call logbook, which had, and by the way, it was redacted, but that had already been released
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years prior from civil lawsuits. Okay. So I was in possession of that two years ago,
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fully unredacted. She released some of Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs, redacted. Those also were
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previously released in 2023 from civil suits, unredacted. Those are the Epstein files. So now
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it was like Pam Bondi spit into the wind and it came back and hit her right in the face, but
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she showed no shame. So that's February 26th. Okay. Follow me on this timeline because it's
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important now that we were looking at January, February, March, April, May, five months. And we
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still have no clearer picture on anything Jeffrey Epstein, which really doesn't make much sense,
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right? Because we're told he's an individual citizen. He's a private citizen, not some government
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official, right? Wasn't a CIA agent to the best of our knowledge. What's taking so long to release
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the information? Now we're not asking for victims names. Those people deserve to be respected. And by
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law, they are respected. We're asking for simple things. Who was on Jeffrey Epstein's Island? Who was
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he in contact with? Who knew about his behaviors? Because if nobody knew about it, it was the best kept
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secret since, I guess, did he? But nobody seems to know, right? Nobody knew. He was in trouble a few
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times in Florida. Pam Bondi was, I believe, the attorney of Florida at the time overseeing that
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case. Now it didn't make sense. So now let's fast forward. That's February 26th. The beginning of March,
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some congressmen, members of Congress started speaking out about the situation because I think
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they were getting a little fed up. Congressman Tim Birchett, who's constantly on this show, he's a
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dear friend of mine. I know him personally, and I know him to be an extremely honorable guy. March 4th,
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President Trump addressed the nation to a joint session of Congress. You folks all remember that.
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And Tim Birchett sat down with Benny Johnson, my buddy Benny, for an interview and had this to say
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about the Epstein documents. What the hell's going on with this list, man? Epstein? What's going on?
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You know, you don't have to ask. I'm glad you did. It's probably the only guy I'm going to ask.
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Well, and I think, like, what's going on there? I was on with Geraldo last night and he says he
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doesn't think it exists. I don't think it exists anymore. I think they've doctored it and I don't
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think we shouldn't trust what comes out. I just think it's, it's, they've delayed it and there was
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no, and she was way over her skis when she said that it's, you know, it's sitting on my desk.
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Now, why the heck would she say that? Why would she say that? I mean, she's big dogging it
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and it, and it, it blew up in her face. That was a stupid move.
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So apparently a big dump truck full of evidence came into the DOJ after some key firings in the
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It's just like, just like the Kennedy files and everything, the UFO files and RFK and JFK.
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I mean, it's just, it's been too long and it's in all of a sudden, you know, we're going
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to look at the president. Trump starts raising cane about John F. Kennedy and all of a sudden
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they find 14,000 new files just out of the blue. I mean, it's like, what is this Raiders
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of the Lost Ark, you know, warehouse that they got this stuff in? I don't know. It's ridiculous.
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It's a cover up. It is. The sewer is groaning right now because of Donald J. Trump. I just pray
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he stays healthy. So that's a U.S. congressman, a man who sits on the House Oversight Committee.
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He's not just some BS congressman who's talking out his rear end. He knows what's going on
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in D.C. He's in the know. And on all the meetings on Congressman House Oversight Chairman
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James Comer's committee. Knows what's going on. Okay. So are we supposed to not believe him?
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Okay. You may say it's one man. What the heck does he know? Let's take a listen to a hit yesterday
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on Benny Johnson's show once again with House Oversight Chairman James Comer.
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What's next? I mean, we did a little bit of a preview on the Epstein files, obviously.
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That's like finding a unicorn in Washington, D.C. You have come on and talked about that on this
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program just for the sake of transparency, which is very big for you. And so in closing,
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any motion on that, any movement on that? We hear that there's a timeline now.
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I hope James has the Epstein files because I don't think the Department of Justice has them,
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or at least the Attorney General does not have them, or she would have turned them over.
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The President ordered them released. The Attorney General ordered them released.
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We all know they have not been released. And one of my biggest fears that I had,
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and I expressed this with, was Kash Patel and a lot of people, Stephen Miller, and a lot of people
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going into the new administration. I'm like, you know, I hope they're not shredding documents right now.
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This was a few weeks before the transition. I said, I hope they're not shredding documents.
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But you all need to go on that first day and try to get all this stuff released.
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Because, you know, my fear is, from what I've dealt with in investigations and in communication
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with this deep state apparatus, is they're probably in their shredding documents as we speak.
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So hopefully someone has a copy of that. And, you know, I hope we find out because
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our task force has done everything led by Anna Polina Luna. You had her on your show many times.
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I mean, she's relentless. She's persistent. She's pretty frustrated right now that these files
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haven't been released, even though the President and the Attorney General have ordered them released.
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But, you know, it's like I told Anna the same thing I told Patel and everybody else.
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You assume that somebody in the deep state said, OK, we'll just put these in a file back here,
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this incriminating evidence on everybody. And maybe the next administration can can do whatever
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they want to do with it. That's that's unfortunately the way it's supposed to work,
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but it hasn't worked with with this deep state.
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So there you go. Yet again, another congressman, House Oversight Chairman James Comer,
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another man that I personally know that I know to be an honorable human being.
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Are we not supposed to believe him? Doesn't make much sense, right?
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Pam Bondi was asked yesterday, she was at the White House, walking out of the White House
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about Comer's comments. Take a listen to what she had to say.
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James Comer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing.
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No, no, the FBI. Yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing. There are tens of thousands of videos
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of Epstein with children or child porn. And there are hundreds of victims. And no one victim
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will ever get released. It's just the volume. And that's what they're going through right now.
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The FBI is diligently going through that. I haven't seen that statement,
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Okay, so that was Pam Bondi yesterday in response to James Comer. Notice how she said,
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I'll call him. Well, there's nothing to call him about. Get us the damn documents. It's as simple
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as that. It's reported that about 10,000 people, FBI agents work at the at the headquarters in D.C.
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Let's assume a 10th of them are capable of viewing those documents, say a thousand people for easy
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math. How long have they been going through them? What's so long to go through? Release it in stages.
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Give the American people something to know that we're not just sitting here waiting for nothing
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to come out. I don't think that's too much to ask for. The American people have been more than
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patient. February 21st, you said they were coming out. February 26th, you said they would be out
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tomorrow. Give the American people something to trust you on. They voted overwhelmingly to put
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you there by voting for Donald Trump with an administration that was going to do the right
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thing. So it doesn't really make much sense who Pam Bondi is covering for and why. Now, a friend of
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mine, James O'Keefe with O'Keefe Media Group, formerly Project Veritas, is working on a big story that
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he's set to break either tonight or tomorrow. He hasn't said what it was, but he spoke with Alex
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Jones about what it might be. He says it's very secretive and his life could be at risk.
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Those are James O'Keefe's words. We don't know what it's about. Alex Jones went on his show today
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and went out on the whim on possibly who's involved and what it's about.
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James O'Keefe's, one of the two big stories he's breaking is about someone in the Trump
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administration covering up Epstein. And then he put out a little short trailer yesterday that
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shows an image or still shot of video of Pam Bondi. So he didn't tell me the specifics
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when he called me and me alone as a dead man switch. So I was, I guess, flattered by it. He's
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like, I think you might be the only person that I know has the integrity. I tell this in case
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something happens. And then when he told me, I was like, yeah, you are in danger, buddy.
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He told me the other stuff too, but he wouldn't even say who in the administration.
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I made some phone calls and I told the crew over the weekend, I said, it's, it's Pam Bondi
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according to my sources. And because the white house already knows about this.
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So I wouldn't even, uh, I wouldn't even tell the crew last week what the specifics were
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is I don't want to endanger them. And then there's two other big stories. And it looks
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like this little promo video that he put out, he's kind of putting the three together
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because it's a big Pfizer news. And then some more Epstein news connected to the Democrats,
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but I'm going to stop right there and wait and see what he puts out today. So we're going
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to be watching obviously his ex account. Keep me in a group very, very closely now.
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Sort of interesting and chilling. If you think about it, a big investigation he's been working
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on and we'll monitor it and bring it to you guys as soon as it comes out. But, uh, it's troubling to
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know that she may be complicit in something. What is she protecting? Who is she covering up? Was it
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have to something to do with her time as attorney for Florida, but how many more people need to go
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after the justice department? Tom Fitton, another good friend of mine of judicial watch, uh, one of the
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greatest foyer's on earth. I'm sure that's not a word, but a man who does foyers has been stymied
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and stifled by the justice department for Epstein documents. Tom Fitton, a friend, a good friend of
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Donald Trump has done great work for Donald Trump over the last 10 years. And the gross abuses of our
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government has been stifled and stymied by Pam Bondi and her department of justice. This is just,
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now there's going to be some of you guys who will be upset with this episode today, but, uh, I don't
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know anybody, anything, uh, I owe the, to you, the audience, the truth. Uh, when Lou and I started this
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show, the mantra was truth, justice, and the American way. And it doesn't matter, uh, um, who's on the
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wrong side or the right side. We bring you the news as it, as it lies. Um, I'm not in this business to
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protect anybody, Republicans or Democrats. I'm in this business to do the right thing, to be a good
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human being, to be a good journalist and bring you all the news. Everything I've said today is fact.
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I've provided you video with fact-based evidence, um, to support everything I've showed you. Our guest
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today is going to join the show in just a moment, uh, attorney Kevin Evans, and he is going to bring
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you fact. So whether you, you know, agree or disagree with it, everything is based on fact.
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And we want to lay out just how this department of justice has been operating for years. We went
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after Joe Biden and Merrick Garland for their corruption, just because it's a Republican in
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there right now, it doesn't mean that we should be protecting her. She's doing a great disservice
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if she's covering for people, she's doing a great disservice to her boss, Donald J. Trump,
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a man who instilled his confidence and trust in her. So, uh, I just wanted to end it with that.
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I want to bring in our guest today. Now, uh, he's attorney Kevin Evans. Kevin, it's great of
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you to join us today. Um, I want to get to something you've been working on 2020. You
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foiled the government on documents relating to Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Jim Biden for two years
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under their administration. They stifled you as well. You got it. You had enough. Two years later,
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you filed the lawsuit against the government 2022. We're now here today. You still have no documents.
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Give the audience a rundown first on what your FOIA included in 2020, what you were trying to get out
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and how it progressed. Thanks for having me on the show. I appreciate it. So yeah, the, the FOIA,
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the genesis of the FOIA was the Biden equivalent of a Clintonian finger wag when he got up and during the
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debate and said, Hey, I have no idea what my son does. I'm not involved in it. He's not making
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money. And that obviously was such a grand lie. And it, uh, insulted me so much that I served a
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FOIA request on the DOJ. And I requested, uh, records of gifts payments, uh, to both Hunter and
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James Biden from sources in three countries, because at the time, that's what I understood
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were the countries involved. And those were China, um, Ukraine and Russia. Now we've since
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have learned that Kazakhstan and Romania probably involved in this as well. But, um, and so it was
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served on, on DOJ in November of 2020. They acknowledged receipt. We did a song and dance
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for the better part of over a year and a half. Now FOIA, I mean, COVID rather was in the middle
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of that. So I, I was a little lenient in my extensions, et cetera. Um, all they produced during
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that entire 18, 20 month time period were diet, were letters between Congress, congressional members
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and bar. Um, you know, we all remember bar and, uh, he avoid his, uh, assistant and, um, and, and the
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Senate report, all of which were public already. That's all they produced. And so I had enough.
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Uh, eventually I, I sent him a draft complaint at the beginning of March of 2022, heard nothing.
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So I filed the complaint and that was filed in March of 2022. There's been a lot of stuff that's
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gone on in the case in the, in the interim that's been interesting, most of which happened under
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Biden, but what's happened now under Trump is Trump's DOJ is just insulting and disgusting.
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So, so bring us up to date on that. Now, obviously we don't expect, uh, Joe Biden pardon his son,
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right? So we don't expect Joe Biden, uh, to do anything, right. That anything that has to do
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with truth, justice, or the American way. Right. So the Trump administration comes in,
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we think we're getting a fresh look at this. Uh, we'll finally get the documents and it's not
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something that you're asking for documents that I think the American people should be privy to,
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especially because of what was done to Donald Trump. Now, if what was done to Donald Trump never
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happened, right? The, the indictment after indictment, after indictment, the bullshit,
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the paying for a porn star with a check, uh, the accountant work that they did to his CFO.
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I mean, you go through the litany of things that nobody would ever be charged with, right? The star
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witness being Michael Cohen, a serial liar, a man who got on the stand and said, I started lying and I
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just couldn't stop. Um, then I say, okay, maybe it's, uh, there it's a level playing field here,
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but we all witnessed Kevin what happened over the last few years while Donald Trump was mulling
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running for president again, where are we at right now, uh, with this fight against the department
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of justice? So to understand that, let me take one step back to March of 2022 in a statement to the
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magistrate in the case, the DOJ lawyer from Maine justice in DC said that they had uncovered
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about 400 pages of what he called potentially responsive documents. And that was, as we've
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come to find out, as I've come to find out was, that was just a, um, an incomplete search. They
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never even asked the office of special counsel for documents. And that's where the bulk of the
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documents are going to be. Um, they still haven't searched the office of special counsel,
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even under Trump's administration. They haven't done that. So Robert hurt, which special counsel is
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that. That was David Weiss, David Weiss. And so here we are in, and they, and by the way,
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after, after admitting that they had 400 pages of potentially responsive documents, this is how
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deceitful and dishonest this DOJ has been. They turn around a month later and they file what's
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called a Glomar. And I, and Lou and I talked about this at one time, they filed a Glomar motion for
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summary judgment, which says we neither admit nor deny the existence of any records. Okay. That's after
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admitting in court, there were 400 potentially responsive documents. Well, I called them out
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on that. There was briefing on that. Um, I threatened to, uh, take it a little bit more
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aggressive if they continued on that path and they withdrew their motion for summary judgment
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on Glomar. Okay. So fast forward, Trump gets, uh, is appointed, you know, here we are in the Trump
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administration. And, um, what happened last week is the height of, uh, of just look, look,
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something's going on here. Either one or five months into this administration and Bondi and Patel
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do not have control over their departments, or there's a participation in a coverup. It's the
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only explanation here because what happened last week was after admitting 400 pages of potentially
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responsive documents, DOJ produced eight pages. And they said there were three more, but they wouldn't
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even produce those in redacted form. They produced eight pages. Virtually every line was redacted.
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Okay. And now they're not just asserting the same exemptions that the Biden administration
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asserted. They're adding a laundry list of additional exemptions that they're asserting.
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And mind you, I mean, I've done, I'm not, I'm not fitting, but I've done a fair amount of FOIA cases.
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This department can, can say the public interest trumps, outweighs the interest of these exemptions
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and produce these documents unredacted. They could do that. They could do it yesterday. And yet not only
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are they not doing it, but they're continuing, they're just redacting line after line after line
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and refusing to produce anything. It's just the height of insultancy. So that's where we are.
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Yes. Last week they, they filed, they served me with these eight pages of documents,
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almost completely redacted, and then told the court they are going to be moving for summary judgment.
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So they're going to say, we're not obligated to search any other sources, including the office of
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special counsel. We're not all, we're not obligated to produce any more documents, redacted or otherwise.
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We're going to move for summary judgment. We're going to ask you to enter judgment, dismiss this case.
00:24:32.420
And no, you know, there's nothing here for you to see public go away. That's their,
00:24:41.020
You know, you'd mentioned the public's right to know it was a public's right to know,
00:24:44.920
apparently about Trump's tax returns, right? They had no problem going to the Supreme Court to get
00:24:48.920
Trump's tax returns. Like it made a difference. Like, like somehow now the prerequisite to run for
00:24:54.560
president, you have to show your tax returns. Like it's someone's business on how much money you're
00:24:58.860
making. If you're Joe Biden, I think it's probably a good idea to show your tax returns because nobody
00:25:03.580
really knows where you made your money. Donald Trump, you can go to any big city skyline across
00:25:07.840
this country and see Trump on a damn building anywhere, you know, where he made his money.
00:25:13.240
So which one do you think it is? I mean, do you think it's a coverup by this justice department?
00:25:18.100
You'd heard Tim Burchett say these people are in over their skis, or is it, is it a, like Comer said,
00:25:24.200
what a deep state conspiracy coup to do whatever the hell they want?
00:25:30.060
You know, I'd be speculating, but I will tell you this. I actually sent a letter two months ago
00:25:36.520
to Pam Bondi, addressed to her with the file, with some of the pertinent filings in this case,
00:25:42.280
and said, this is what your DOJ, this is what your people are doing. You know, please get involved
00:25:48.580
and rectify this situation. I heard crickets. I have reached out to Emile Bove. I've heard crickets.
00:25:57.000
You know, no one from this administration is getting back to me, is offering to do the right
00:26:03.360
thing. So what am I supposed to think, especially after what they did last week? I mean, that was
00:26:08.720
just insulting and outrageous. And they're going to continue on this path unless they have a change
00:26:14.400
of heart. Now, what do you suspect the hundreds of pages of documents? It's got to be something
00:26:21.060
in it. If there was nothing in it, Kevin, they would just say, here's the documents, or they
00:26:24.820
redact the heck out of it and say, you know, have at it, have some fun. What do you suspect is in these
00:26:29.340
documents that the DOJ is covering for the Biden crime family on? Well, first of all, understand that
00:26:35.600
you can redact, and I wouldn't push back on this, you can redact addresses, you can redact
00:26:40.080
confidential sources, you can redact email addresses, I don't care about any of that.
00:26:45.580
But one of the exemptions, one of the new exemptions that the Trump DOJ just asserted
00:26:52.180
was exemption three. And also in connection with that statute called 31 USC 5319. And what
00:27:00.860
that, without getting too geeky on you, what that means is there are records related to monetary
00:27:07.500
transactions, money laundering, and the statute is clear on this, money laundering or other
00:27:12.780
criminal activity relating to the receipt of money. And there's an exemption for that, believe it or
00:27:19.500
not. And so they asserted that exemption for the first time. So what's in there? Well, what's in
00:27:25.320
there is evidence of what everybody suspected all along, what he got his pardon for, which is,
00:27:31.660
you know, the improper receipt of funds from overseas, the failure to register as a FARA
00:27:38.720
lobbyist, and we all know the people that have gotten in trouble for that. I suspect there's
00:27:44.240
evidence you can, you know, follow the dots, there's probably nice evidence in there of a
00:27:49.060
RICO conspiracy and RICO violations. But and they're refusing to produce any of that. So I suspect to answer
00:27:56.280
your question, that's what you would find if they produce these in unredacted fashion.
00:28:05.340
Well, let me let me put it this way. I mean, I've been doing white collar work a long, long time.
00:28:09.940
And there's something called a PROS memo, a prosecution memo that has to go up and be approved
00:28:15.660
before anybody can recommend criminal charges. OK, not to get not just against Hunter Biden,
00:28:22.300
but against anybody in the federal system. And there had to have been a PROS memo that went up
00:28:28.140
because there were charges, as Mr. Schapler, Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler said, there were
00:28:33.500
recommendations made to indict this guy. Right. And so, yes, to answer your question bluntly,
00:28:39.920
those documents exist to the extent they haven't been destroyed. Those documents exist. And that's
00:28:44.680
what they would show. I'm quite confident of that. Tell me something, Kevin, because I'm not an
00:28:48.420
attorney, maybe some of the audience members or attorneys. Why in almost six years, we'll call it
00:28:56.060
three years, whatever you want to put it, from the exception of the FOIA, 2025 years from the
00:29:02.300
exception of the lawsuit, three years. Why hasn't a judge in that three year period demanded the DOJ
00:29:11.820
turn over those documents or say you can't get those documents? What's taken that long for a yes or no
00:29:18.380
answer? Well, I will tell you that in my experience, and maybe Tom Fitton will tell you
00:29:24.900
the same thing. FOIA has become toothless and judges, whatever DOJ or whatever the government
00:29:32.280
agent, because I haven't done FOIAs just against DOJ. I've done FOIAs against the SEC and other
00:29:36.800
agencies in the past. Whatever those agencies assert in the by way of exemptions, the government,
00:29:43.620
the judges tend to just, you know, rubber stamp. Okay, that's been my experience. And it's unfortunate
00:29:49.480
because FOIA has become almost a toothless vehicle. And so the delays were asked, delays are the result
00:29:58.700
of requests by the DOJ here, repeated delays in this case. And to me, I was fine with extensions
00:30:06.140
because I was going to go nowhere with this, with the Biden DOJ. And who knows what the next
00:30:12.680
administration would be, and maybe I would get some traction there. So I wasn't pushing too hard
00:30:16.760
in opposition of those extensions. And then when Trump won, I thought, oh, great, my strategy played
00:30:23.760
out well. Well, and then here we are. But how long as an attorney, Kevin, are you supposed to sit back
00:30:30.320
and say, okay, you kicked the can one time, you kicked the can two times, you've kicked it three
00:30:35.000
times? You know, how long are you supposed to sit back and say, this is acceptable or like enough is
00:30:41.360
enough? You know, as an attorney, two years, three years, four years, how long are you supposed to sit
00:30:48.020
and wait? Well, if this had been a different administration, you know, before, I would not
00:30:52.560
have been so amenable to these extensions, and I would have pushed much harder. But like I said,
00:30:58.780
I thought the extensions played in my favor, to play out this four year period of time. I will
00:31:03.700
tell you this, in keeping with how deceitful and dishonest this DOJ has been, when Hunter Biden was
00:31:11.820
indicted, last go around, they came to me, the assistant who was handling the case from DC came
00:31:18.680
to me and said, look, some of this may be mooted by what happens in the criminal trial and in the
00:31:24.020
ultimate, if he's convicted, in the ultimate sentencing. So can we put this case on hold?
00:31:28.780
While that plays out, and then we can see if there are documents produced in the sentencing
00:31:32.800
hearing or whatever that we could produce, we won't fight over those. And again, in keeping with
00:31:37.820
my position, I said, fine. But at the end of that process, after that unprecedented, unconditional
00:31:46.380
pardon, and I went back to this assistant, and I said, okay, you said your position might change. And
00:31:53.800
he said, well, our position was always going to be we weren't going to produce.
00:31:58.380
Right? I mean, after telling me as an officer of the court and a lawyer telling me that and then
00:32:03.340
coming back to me and basically saying, well, we were never going to change our position anyway. So
00:32:08.060
we were, in essence, we were just buying time. That's what this DOJ has done. And it's Trump DOJ
00:32:17.500
The problem is, Kevin, is I don't think Donald Trump knows about any of this stuff. And it's a
00:32:22.860
problem because we rely on him to do everything, right? Because it's what he always does. He
00:32:30.620
negotiates his own deals. He's a one-man team in the sense where he can do everything. But the problem
00:32:36.520
is, is he trusts some of these people around him. And he, I often say this on the show, Kevin, for
00:32:43.740
the people who have never met him, he's actually like a very regular guy. He's a very personable
00:32:50.240
guy. And he's very, like a caring person in person that, you know, every time I see him,
00:32:55.480
how are you doing? How's the family? You know, very personable, very nice guy. And he relies on his
00:33:01.060
people to do the right thing. And, you know, by putting him in there, I think he thinks they are
00:33:06.800
doing the right thing. So things like this, I don't think he'd know about because, you know,
00:33:11.100
if that were the case, he'd sit there and he'd say, what are we doing here? Get this guy the
00:33:15.840
documents. Let's figure out what happened. I mean, Joe Biden directed Merrick Garland to go after him.
00:33:20.820
We're getting plenty of those documents now. We had documents that came out today obtained by Just
00:33:25.800
the News that shows Merrick Garland directed his DOJ to go after anyone who's talking about
00:33:31.880
conservatives who are talking about guns or anything, free speech online. We're getting
00:33:37.140
those documents. I think if Donald Trump knew about this, he would say, what are we doing here?
00:33:42.620
Get these documents out. Well, let me just also share with you. I mean, I don't doubt that,
00:33:48.100
but let me just also share with you the one document. Actually, there were two, but this one in
00:33:53.240
particular that was not redacted, the one email in these eight pages, right? And they had no problem
00:33:58.980
not redacting this email. And that email said, it was a guy from the tax department at DOJ. And it
00:34:06.160
said, quote, less ominous than I was originally told. I saw that. Right. Okay. And I'd love to get
00:34:14.120
Mr. Shapley, Mr. Ziegler's response to that, to their, that comment by their colleague in the tax
00:34:18.920
department about a less ominous bid, no problem not redacting that. We know that was a farce. We
00:34:24.540
know that's false. Otherwise you wouldn't now be asserting exemption three of FOIA, money laundering,
00:34:32.160
other criminal activities related to money. So clearly there was ominous behavior there.
00:34:37.240
And, but, but again, look, this is Trump's DOJ who's doing this. This isn't Biden's DOJ. This is
00:34:43.800
Trump's DOJ. And he put her in charge. So whether he knows about it or not,
00:34:51.580
he put this woman in charge of the department of justice, and she's either doesn't have the
00:34:56.100
competence to understand what's going on or isn't curious enough to instruct her underlings to give
00:35:02.900
her full reports on what's going on in each district, in each jurisdiction, what cases do I need to know
00:35:07.880
about? Because if she had done that, that's the first thing I would have done, by the way,
00:35:11.500
as an attorney general, I would have said, I want to, I want to report a memo in each jurisdiction
00:35:16.240
on things I need to know about. Okay. Apparently she hasn't done that or isn't curious enough to do
00:35:21.360
it, but, um, be that as it may, this is her department and she's responsible for it. And she
00:35:28.800
is doing this. And in a sense, what she is doing is more egregious than what the Biden DOJ did because
00:35:36.380
they were taking positions that not even the Biden DOJ took.
00:35:45.120
The other problem too, I think we have here, Kevin, is, is these holdovers. It was the same
00:35:49.460
thing that happened to him the first time. He's got these assistant attorneys. I don't,
00:35:53.120
what level attorney, I'm not sure what a level attorney handles case like this, I guess,
00:35:57.020
assistant attorney for whatever. He's got all these holdovers from the Biden administration.
00:36:01.040
What they should have done from day one is go in there and level the place, pull people out of
00:36:06.400
private practice as he did with email, pull people out of private practice as he did with his other
00:36:11.600
attorney who represented him up in New York. His name is slipping my mind. It's Todd Blanchett.
00:36:18.020
Todd Blanch. I think the gentleman, John Sauer from Florida, another one, pull these people out of
00:36:24.660
Hermit Dillon, pull them out of private practice and appoint one person for each division, as you said,
00:36:30.600
and say, look at this, look at the cases they're running, look at the work they've been doing,
00:36:35.620
look at what they did for the last four years, look if there's any been any sort of
00:36:39.420
suspicious behavior and get them the hell out. If cases got to sit and wait, you've waited two and
00:36:44.480
a half years, three years to get absolutely nothing. What difference does it make if you're
00:36:48.860
short attorneys in this place, if you're going to maybe possibly get people of good quality, Kevin?
00:36:54.880
Yeah, you got to be a little careful about that. You can certainly replace U.S. attorneys. You can
00:36:58.460
certainly replace people in administrative, you know, high level administrative positions at DOJ,
00:37:03.380
line assistants and, you know, career attorneys. You got to be careful about just going in and
00:37:09.420
making wholesale changes. But you're right. He could have done exactly what you said and put those people
00:37:14.240
in a position of authority and they could have done this. Again, it's the first thing I would have
00:37:19.680
done. Give me, let me know the important cases and jurisdictions and what I need to, what I need to be
00:37:24.820
aware of. And I'll tell you this, I said this to somebody yesterday in a similar interview,
00:37:30.880
you're either helping to expose what happened here or you're part of the cover up. You're
00:37:35.500
participating in the cover up. And the only thing I can say based upon my experience with Trump's DOJ
00:37:41.660
is the latter. This is, there has been a participation in the cover up. Maybe it doesn't
00:37:46.820
go all the way to the top, but the incompetence may be. But clearly they're participating in the cover
00:37:53.600
up. It's ongoing. And now they're trying to whitewash this by getting rid of the case in
00:37:57.940
its entirety. Yeah, it's truly remarkable. And I don't think there's any love lost for
00:38:03.040
or any love between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. There was a clip of Barron Trump,
00:38:09.280
President Trump's youngest son, going up to Joe Biden at the inauguration and telling him
00:38:13.280
like, game on, you're not safe now or something like that for a 17, 60 year old kid to go up to,
00:38:19.660
you know, for a, for a family's house, they rated armed. That's the thing like that. Just
00:38:24.280
that I can't seem to get past Kevin is everything that went on with this man to assassination
00:38:30.120
attempts, one, almost killing him, his house rated his wife's underwear drawer rated his personal
00:38:36.060
place rated everything they did to him. And you would think that the people that he's surrounding
00:38:42.800
himself with would have his back. And I just don't see it. And Pam Bondi, I hope I'm wrong. But
00:38:48.560
I've said from day one, Kevin, it's four years, it may seem like a long time. But it comes by
00:38:55.700
really, really quick. I felt like it was yesterday that I was in college. And I look back, it's been
00:38:59.620
over 10 years, Kevin, four years goes by very, very fast. And it's really only the first two years
00:39:05.840
that you have because mark my words, I've been saying this every day on the show, if they lose that
00:39:10.620
Congress, day one, he's getting impeached again. There's no other way to put it. The masks are off.
00:39:17.140
These people do not care. They will impeach him again, and they will impeach him again and everything
00:39:21.300
he does. And for the next two years, they'll be lame duck. They will have him in impeachment
00:39:25.820
proceedings and this and that, and they will ruin his administration. That's what he has to look forward
00:39:30.960
to while these people sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing. If we do get documents like this,
00:39:36.700
if we do get some of these Epstein documents, maybe these people will think twice and say,
00:39:40.620
you know what? We should stop playing dirty because they're going to do the same thing to us.
00:39:46.680
Well, look, I'm not a political animal, never have been. But the thing here is,
00:39:54.300
if I were a political animal and I were in that position, I would say, hey, these documents might
00:39:59.260
be useful to me. There's beyond the fact that the public has a right to know and a clear right to
00:40:05.880
know and an important right to know this. They might be helpful to me. And in showing that,
00:40:10.980
you know, the shenanigans that were going on before, maybe I should, maybe I should press harder
00:40:16.300
to get these. So I'm just imploring. I mean, look, if Bonnie doesn't want to respond to my letter,
00:40:23.860
Todd Blanche, Emile Bove, call me. I mean, it's not hard to find me. I'm in Denver. Okay.
00:40:29.100
So on the pleadings, my telephone number, you can reach out to me, email me, call me. But let's talk
00:40:36.000
about this because if you don't get involved, I guarantee you two months, three months from now,
00:40:43.720
this case is going to be gone. And it's going to be so unfortunate because we are in the right
00:40:49.880
position here. But the FOIA and this judge, you know, they're just going to rubber stamp whatever
00:40:56.500
the government has to say. I guarantee you not. Yeah. When we get off here, I'm going to give my
00:41:01.480
attorney call again. Ty Clevenger, I mentioned, is working on the Seth Rich case. And I'm going to
00:41:05.460
give a home and Tom fit in a call and see if he's aware of what's going on here, because I mean,
00:41:12.900
it's a travesty of justice. How long are we supposed to sit back and just wait and wait? I want
00:41:19.600
to get your take. And if you listen to my monologue on the top of the show about Pam and the Epstein
00:41:24.260
documents, we can't get something as simple as a few hundred pages of Hunter Biden doing business
00:41:31.640
overseas. I mean, are we supposed to have confidence that we're ever going to see any sort of Epstein
00:41:37.000
document, Kevin? I watched your monologue. I watched her statements. It's not the first time
00:41:42.620
I've seen her statements, by the way. And it's not the first time I'm going to say this. Her comments
00:41:46.740
are a farce. OK, it's probably not going to help me with the Department of Justice in my case by saying
00:41:51.540
that. But her comments are a farce, because if you really want it to produce those documents,
00:41:57.640
get those documents reviewed and produce them, you put people on it to get it done in a week.
00:42:01.760
Right. I don't care how many documents you're talking about. This can be done in a week.
00:42:05.280
If I were in her shoes, it would have been done long before now, far sooner than now and far more
00:42:10.580
complete than now. But so what she's suggesting is nonsensical. It makes no sense. And there's more to
00:42:19.460
this than what she wants us as gullible citizens to believe. So, I mean, we're to the best of our
00:42:28.060
knowledge, and I'm being a little facetious on this because I've done a little bit more research
00:42:31.360
probably than you on this case to, you know, no credit to myself. I've been forced to entrench
00:42:37.980
myself on what happened with Epstein and everything that went on. We were told, Kevin, that he's a private
00:42:44.380
citizen, right? Now, speculation that he may have worked at Mossad, there's speculation he may have
00:42:49.800
worked on behalf of the United States government with the CIA. There's a lot of evidence to point
00:42:53.940
on how that case was handled in Florida, that original case where he got off scot-free, right,
00:43:00.820
for years after that case, by the way, where Pam Bondi was working down in Florida. Is it the U.S.
00:43:06.180
Attorney or the Solicitor General for Florida? I think she was the AG, Florida AG. Okay, so the AG of
00:43:12.680
Florida. You know, there's no way that, in my opinion, Kevin, someone like this, it's like the
00:43:19.800
Diddy thing. It's like, how could something go under the radar for so long with nobody knowing about it,
00:43:24.820
and then all of a sudden it come out and everyone's like, oh yeah, you know, we knew about that. It's
00:43:29.000
the same thing with Epstein. We knew there was a three or four year period, maybe a little less,
00:43:33.580
from his time he got in trouble in Florida to the time where the FBI and the federal government got
00:43:38.520
involved. How do you have such a lapse like that when this was this bad of a human being? Like,
00:43:44.920
the stuff he was doing was just atrocious, apparently. Yeah, that plea deal in Florida,
00:43:51.460
I mean, when I heard about it several years ago, I just, I mean, my eyes rolled back. I just,
00:43:56.600
I thought at the time, the fix is in, something's going on here. But in terms of the production of
00:44:02.000
these FOIA, these Epstein documents now, look, these, these exemptions, they're not set in stone.
00:44:09.580
You can, you can find that the public interest outweigh the exemptions. And regardless of whether
00:44:16.240
this guy was affiliated with any law enforcement or whatever, you can redact that. You don't need
00:44:21.720
to produce that. You know, certainly they're not going to produce the names of the victims.
00:44:26.240
There's a whole lot of stuff here that relates to Epstein that you can produce and partially redact,
00:44:35.200
do a selective redaction of the rest and have those documents out months ago. There's no reason that
00:44:40.440
could not have been done. And if you, if you're looking, if you take the DOJ's position on both
00:44:45.900
the Epstein case and my case to its logical conclusion, the only result you can draw is the,
00:44:52.600
the DOJ considers itself exempt from FOIA because they can, they can make these wholesale,
00:44:58.240
you know, redactions, these wholesale exemption assertions, and no one's going to call them to
00:45:03.220
task for it. And they get, and they get away with not producing anything. So they're exempt in their
00:45:07.780
mind. I'm going to tell you the issues that I see. And you tell me if you disagree as a,
00:45:12.040
an officer of the court, Bondi's come out on multiple occasions, confirming that she has the
00:45:17.280
documents. She came out this afternoon or yesterday afternoon and confirm that they have video evidence
00:45:25.320
of grotesque things. Okay. So, so if she's going to come out here and lie to us, she made many
00:45:30.720
mistakes all in the way, but the one today is perhaps the biggest because she's confirmed what
00:45:36.380
they have. How did she get herself out of this? If we don't ever get the documents, if we don't ever
00:45:42.300
get the tapes or whatever, or confirmation of what was on the tapes, I mean, I don't assume,
00:45:47.020
and I don't want to see tapes of what went on at Jeffrey Epstein's home, but I want to know what
00:45:53.820
happened. I want to know who was complicit in it. I want to know who was taking part in pedophilia.
00:45:59.340
It seems to be a big problem here in America now, Kevin, it's like the rich and elites. It's no longer
00:46:05.040
good enough to date a movie star or date a really pretty woman who's your age. It's, it all boils down
00:46:11.220
now to pedophilia. Okay. That, which is what I say on this show all the time, Kevin, I have no
00:46:17.140
tolerance for that stuff at all. I don't care who's involved in it. I said on this show, if Donald
00:46:22.300
Trump was involved in it and Donald Trump was on Epstein Island, I don't care. I want to know.
00:46:27.020
I want to know every single person who took part in what he was doing because there's no tolerance for
00:46:33.040
that in America, taking advantage of minors, sex trafficking of minors, raping minors, nobody should
00:46:40.680
put up with this. Nobody should stand for this. So if she does eventually never give us these
00:46:46.920
documents, she's confirmed what she has. How does she get her way out of this? Does she resign? Does
00:46:53.000
she give us like a nothing burger? How does she get herself out? I don't know how she gets herself
00:46:59.840
out, but I know what I would do if I were in Trump's position. And, you know, so I would, I would be
00:47:05.720
thinking about that if I were her. But, but, you know, somebody ought to be asking Trump these
00:47:09.960
questions, right? During these news conferences. I mean, well, what about this? What, what about
00:47:15.160
this, these Epstein documents? What about these other documents that people are asking for that,
00:47:18.860
that your department of justice is throwing up roadblocks left and right to for, you know,
00:47:24.040
what about that? Why don't you get involved? Why don't you have somebody in your administration
00:47:27.580
uh, take a look at this? Why, why don't you have your, your, um, chief of staff start asking some
00:47:33.360
questions? Um, you can do that. I mean, it used to happen all the time and, and, and then maybe he
00:47:41.200
will engage, but I don't think until he does, we're, we're going to, we're going to get squat.
00:47:48.500
Well, I, I think to your point, we've gotten a little bit of something because, uh, she, you know,
00:47:54.080
she came out and you know, the thing is, these members of Congress, I kind of like to see this
00:47:58.140
a little bit, the, the, the pressure that they put on, uh, I had Tim Birch on my show last week
00:48:03.320
and he said the same exact thing is she's in over her skis. She's done this. She's done that.
00:48:07.700
It's nice to see that these people are on the side of truth, justice in the American way,
00:48:11.680
regardless of who it is, that they don't care about protecting this woman because of, of what she's
00:48:17.260
protecting. And so I like to see that there are Republicans out there who, you know, who care about,
00:48:22.880
uh, the truth and I care about it coming out. But, uh, to your point, I think we are seeing a
00:48:27.480
little bit of it because we had Pam Bondi come out this morning and, and say that they're reviewing
00:48:31.400
these documents and they're going, that's more than we've gotten Kevin since, uh, since February.
00:48:36.140
Well, maybe more than you've gotten, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
00:48:38.660
No, I'm not by any stretch of the imagination, but, uh, it takes all of us to put the pressure on.
00:48:44.260
It takes, you know, the journalists, it takes the people in the room, as you said, to ask the hard
00:48:48.460
questions and to, to keep the pressure on, to let her know that we're not going to
00:48:52.740
rest. And there are people who are, or are relentless in this fight who will not rest,
00:48:56.200
uh, until she gets, I know the great Lou Dobbs is rolling over in his grave right now
00:49:01.160
with, with what she's doing. If he were still alive today, mark my words, he would be going
00:49:06.360
scorched earth. And, uh, uh, it didn't usually work out well for people who, uh, weren't on the
00:49:13.520
good side of Lou Dobbs. I'll leave it at that. Uh, how does this end, Kevin? How does this play
00:49:18.800
out? Do we ever get the documents? I will tell you the only way we're going to get these
00:49:23.500
documents is if, um, Bondi and Patel have a change of heart or, or if they, if they don't
00:49:31.360
know about this case, they act, somebody brings it to their attention, they get involved in
00:49:34.740
it, uh, and change the direction this case is taking. Uh, or if Trump hears about this
00:49:40.820
and, and starts putting pressure on them to, uh, to figure out what the heck is going
00:49:45.740
on. Uh, otherwise this case is going to die, uh, a death of a thousand cuts. And, and, and
00:49:53.600
what we're going to get are eight redacted full, almost fully redacted pages of documents,
00:49:58.980
uh, related to Hunter and James Biden. That's how it's going to, that's how it's going to
00:50:03.180
end up. So somebody has got to get involved in this, uh, from higher up at DOJ.
00:50:09.160
Sure. Well, that was, you know, that was in May of 2022. They said there were four,
00:50:13.180
over 400 pages and that did not include, as we've come to find out, uh, a search or
00:50:19.520
request from the office of special counsel for their documents. And that's where the
00:50:23.820
treasure trove is going to be. Um, because the office of special counsel was David Weiss,
00:50:28.580
who's the guy from Delaware, who, you know, was going to do the sweetheart deal with him
00:50:32.980
after, you know, um, you know, indicting him on a slap of the wrist. So, um,
00:50:39.160
you know, that's where, that's where the real meat is going to be here. And, and I don't know
00:50:45.980
Is there anything Congress can do to expedite this?
00:50:48.260
Um, you know, I hear the, I hear Burchett and others, you know, trying to put pressure on,
00:50:55.300
but I don't think there's anything Congress can do. The one thing I've been imploring Congress to do
00:50:59.200
for, for several years is strengthen FOIA. You know, um, take a look at these decisions that have
00:51:06.020
come out over the years in FOIA and give it its teeth back. Uh, that is something Congress could do.
00:51:11.340
It's not going to help us in the short term. It's not going to help us with these cases,
00:51:14.080
um, short of an act of God or the, you know, the higher ups and the administration. Um, you know,
00:51:20.340
we're never going to see these documents, but that clearly needs to be done.
00:51:24.280
Yeah. They've decided instead of, uh, strengthening FOIA to strengthen another, uh, acronym FISA,
00:51:31.080
spying and abuses on American people, another travesty of justice, which they have the opportunity
00:51:36.660
to fix in this Congress. We'll see if they do it. Um, you know, it's, it's, I get like sick to my
00:51:44.320
stomach just thinking about this, that we're in this situation. I'm going to wrap up with asking
00:51:49.200
you this. Do you feel that because Biden's gone off into the sunset, Hunter Biden can never run for
00:51:56.520
office. No Biden will ever seek office again. Their business dealings are probably presumably all
00:52:01.600
done. USAID is ending in a lot of these places where they, they, I've been told they used, uh,
00:52:08.200
contracts to, to, to make some money there. Do you feel that the department of justice and the FBI
00:52:13.580
are maybe just saying, you know, we don't care about this anymore because the Biden crime family
00:52:18.060
is out of office forever? Well, that would be an absurd and absolutely astounding position to me
00:52:25.840
after what, look, I, I, I've told people in the past, I, my, my, probably going to kill myself here,
00:52:32.380
but my, uh, my choice was Bob Kennedy, Robert Kennedy. Um, that's who I was supporting. I'm
00:52:38.340
not, I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I'm apolitical. Right. Um, but, um, and so I don't,
00:52:46.440
I don't understand why they're doing this. Their, their boss is the president of the United States,
00:52:50.940
the president, right. You would think that after everything that he was put through right, wrong,
00:52:56.020
indifferent, whatever, uh, after everything he was put through, you would think that they would
00:53:01.580
at least show a modicum of interest in this thing, uh, and, and do the right thing and expose this
00:53:08.340
information, regardless of whether, you know, these guys are ever going to raise their head again.
00:53:13.580
Uh, that's the point. The point is the American public has a right to know.
00:53:16.800
Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Kevin, I appreciate you joining us today. And, uh,
00:53:21.940
like I said, I'm going to try to push this up the totem pole as far as I possibly could
00:53:25.560
to see if we can get a little movement on it, uh, because I'm with you on this. I don't care
00:53:29.700
if they ever see the light of day again. That, I mean, that was just my only thinking as to why
00:53:34.100
they'd be delaying this for so long. Uh, I don't care if they ever come up to see the light of day
00:53:37.900
again. I, Americans deserve to know, um, where are these politicians sold out for however many years we see
00:53:45.900
it all across the board, selling out our country, selling out our infrastructure, selling out our
00:53:50.480
jobs, selling out our national security. I mean, this is way deeper than just finding out that
00:53:55.720
Hunter Biden made a few million dollars and that his brother made a few million dollars and that
00:53:59.700
Joe Biden made a few million dollars. It's way deeper than that. It's national security. It's
00:54:03.760
corruption. It's public corruption. Um, and we all have a right to know, um, you get the last word
00:54:09.100
here, Kevin. Well, I, I, last word is what I've said to others who have asked me. Um, I'm just
00:54:15.480
imploring those higher up in the department of justice, get involved in this. I'm, I'm a phone
00:54:21.280
call away. I'm an email away. Contact me. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about what you can do.
00:54:26.360
Let's talk about doing the right thing here. Uh, because otherwise this case is going away and it's
00:54:31.280
not going away with a favorable outcome. Yeah. Attorney Kevin Evans, thanks so much for joining us today.
00:54:37.040
And, uh, like I said, we're going to try to push this thing up the totem pole to, uh,
00:54:42.240
to expose truth, justice, and the American way. We'll talk to you soon, Kevin.
00:54:45.980
I appreciate it. Thanks, John. Thanks to attorney Kevin Evans, folks. And thank you all for being
00:54:49.300
with us today here on the great America show. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it was
00:54:53.320
informational, uh, cause that's what I try to do here every day is, is, uh, bring information that
00:54:58.420
you're not getting on the mainstream that you're not getting from Fox news and, and other mainstream
00:55:03.460
outlets, uh, to take a different perspective and a different look at things.
00:55:07.040
And take a broader view, uh, before now narrowing in on what really matters. So I hope you enjoyed
00:55:13.520
it as much as I did. Uh, Kevin, uh, Kevin Evans, uh, a great man, a great American, uh, for putting
00:55:18.580
a target on his back, uh, to just expose the truth, right? Not too much to ask for. We just
00:55:24.920
want the truth, truth, justice, and the American way folks. We'll hope to see you back here tomorrow
00:55:29.580
for the great America show where our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues
00:55:33.860
against all odds against all enemies against it all. We'll see you back here tomorrow,
00:55:38.340
folks. Same time, same place until then, may God bless you. May God bless America and may God bless