SOLOMON SAYS BIG GOVT IS A CONCERN FOR ALL AMERICANS, IT’S NOT TRUMP VS DEMS. IT’S ABOUT THE ESSENCE OF AMERICA, THE CONSTITUTION
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The FBI and Justice Department admit they over-collected and over-confiscated the property of a former president of the United States. What could be the reason for the massive amount of documents the FBI and DOJ collected from the former president's office?
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show, Truth, Justice,
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the American Way. That's the way we like it here. And the truth is emerging daily from the darkness
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imposed by this administration and its Marxist Dem masters. The truth is that the Dems and the
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deep state have managed to infiltrate every important government agency and over the years
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have taken possession of the federal bureaucracy and much, much more. Our federal government is
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fully corrupted and that political corruption is in full view of the American people. There is no
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doubt there is no debate. In full view, but not fully understood yet. The enormity of the Marxist
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Dems' public corruption isn't only hard to comprehend, but to even imagine such evil. No one does a better
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job of reporting the developing stories about the massive corruption that has overwhelmed our
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government than justthenews.com and its founder and chief editor, John Solomon. Welcome, John,
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and it's great to have you with us here on the Great America Show. Already, the FBI and Justice
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Department are backtracking. They've had to admit they over-collected when they seized boxes and took
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some 15 of them with them, over-confiscated the property of a former president of the United
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States. Your reaction, John? It's amazing. We all, as Americans, have a Fourth Amendment privilege,
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right? So we should, the rule for search warrants is they should be cast as narrowly as possible.
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Presidents have other privileges that we don't have, including executive privilege. And what we were told
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last night, and it has been confirmed by multiple government officials, is that the FBI collected
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lots of materials that were actually not responsive to the subpoenas. So when they spent nine hours going
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through the closets and the desk drawers and the lockers, they took a lot of things that actually
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weren't covered by the description of the search warrant. And let's give you some of those. We know for
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certain now that there were three passports, two expired, one current, that they took from the
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president's office. There's nothing in the search warrant that suggests that that is covered. And
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of course, it's not a presidential record. Everyone has a passport, even when you're not
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a president. So that one is a head scratcher. Why they would take that, no one knows. The second one,
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and this is one that's going to become more contentious, is that there are numerous documents
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that the government now acknowledges are covered by privilege. Now, that could be attorney-client privilege,
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because it could be communications between the president and his lawyers, or executive
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privilege, conversations about the advice the president got when he's present that's normally
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protected. How those could be scooped up and not be segregated immediately is certainly going to
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become an argument of fact and law, I think, in the near distant future. But there's another part to
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this which is kind of remarkable, which is the Justice Department has named their own person to decide
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what's privileged to not. I can't believe that's going to fly. I have to assume that President
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Trump's lawyers are going to go to court soon and say, hey, we want an independent special master
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named by the court to go through these and resolve these things. And then there's a third one that's
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just a head scratcher, because most of the search warrant returns that have been made public by the
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Justice Department through the court are very generic. Like, we found a box of documents. We found
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the documents marked top secret. This one was very specifically identified, a file related to the
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pardon of Roger Stone. For most of the people I've talked to, current and former FBI, current and
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former Justice Department officials, they're scratching their heads saying, why that? First off,
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the pardon's already publicly known. Two, there could be executive privilege in the documents
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surrounding why the president considered a pardon for Roger. Those three things are in the over
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collection bucket right now. And I went to one of the really great story executives of the FBI,
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someone who is universally respected, Democrats and Republicans both like him. He was the first
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intelligence chief after 9-11 for the FBI. His name is Kevin Brock. He was the former assistant director
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served under Bob Mueller. So he's, you know, someone that has a long history in the FBI.
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He looked at this last night and said to me flatly, the president has an extraordinary
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legal challenge to be made here. This is an FBI man, a 30 year plus FBI man, that the search warrant is
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so broadly worded that it defies the guide that the FBI uses for its own agents to do it. And he pointed
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this out, which is, it basically says any record covered during the presidency of 2017 to 2021,
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so January 2017 to January 2021. It asked for that broader collection of documents that in fact,
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any president in the future should feel chilled about this. Basically, they can come at any time
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and gather anything they want from your home based on the description of this warrant. He was a big
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critic of the way the warrant is worded. And then the fact that even as broadly worded as that,
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that they would take something like privileged materials or passports made him scratch his head.
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This is a lot career lifelong G man for the FBI calling out in, in, in criticizing his own agency.
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I believe, John, that there are millions of Americans who would say,
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and I, I have to count myself among them. Why should any of us be surprised? FBI and DOJ have
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been acting like fascist thugs for at least six years that we know of. And now it makes me think
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we should be going back at least another two decades to find out actually what they were doing.
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But in that period, from, from 2016 to today, we are looking at two agencies that are absolutely
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an embarrassment to the very idea of public service, public servants, and the rule of law.
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Yeah, it's, this is overwhelming. Yeah. And listen, the warning signs for this were so many,
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all through Russia collusion, all through the Michigan cases, whether the Olympian sex case or
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the Whitmer kidnapping case, we kept seeing bright red flashing lights saying the FBI has a serious
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problem. It can't be truthful to the courts. It doesn't follow its own procedures to make sure
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FISA warrants or regular warrants are properly there. They have informants that seem to be way
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too integrated into the criminal plots. This has been going on for six years. And we have an FBI
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director that swears, I've got new rules. It's fixed. It doesn't, nothing has been fixed. The IG,
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the inspector general of the independent watchdog of the justice department just about six months ago
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said, Hey, I know you put all those rules in after the Russia collusion FISA warrants were deemed to be
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unlawful, misleading, inaccurate, containing egregious omissions. But guess what? We looked at a bunch more
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FISA warrants. You didn't comply with your new rules at all. And they still have the same problems
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like we saw in Russia. The red blinking lights are there. Chris Ray has not done enough to deter bad
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behavior or to create good behavior in compliance with his laws. I think that the buck stops at the
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top of this barrel. I think you're right. And I also think that you're reporting on this is very
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important because it shows right now that the FBI was willing to ignore the executive privilege of a
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former president of the United States, the attorney client privilege of a former president of the
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United States. What on earth are they doing with regular citizens like you and me and members of this
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audience? So important. So important to remind that if it could happen to the most powerful men in the
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world, then it almost certainly could happen to the rest of us. And we don't have the resources
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nor the spotlight to maybe fight that. And I think that's the problem. The FBI, the IRS with 87,000 new
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agents now being added to its ranks after going through a scandal just a decade ago for which there's
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no proof that the IRS has reformed itself. The concern that big government will in a big way intrude on
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our liberty, on our most important rights as humans, it's growing. It's not waning. There is this
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big, big, giant concern in America. For all of us, this isn't just a Trump versus the Democrats battle.
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This is about the essence of America, our civil liberties, our Bill of Rights, the Constitution.
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And when you hear a lifelong FBI guy who loves the Bureau, wants to do it right, raising his own red flag,
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saying, we got a problem here, America, that ought to be a wake-up call for all of us.
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Without question. And it raises the question about a constitutional crisis, frankly, because
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this is now at a level that there is no, in my judgment at least, there is no resolution that is
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obvious, near at hand, or that will be satisfactory, given the level of corruption in the federal
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government. How soon can President Trump make a case to the Supreme Court to rein in these actors
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in the Justice Department and the FBI? Because this can't stand, and it's not going to stand. And we need
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to reestablish rules and enforcement of rules by those who are hired and employed to do so. That is,
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namely, the very people who are plotting the law across the board, the DOJ and the FBI.
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You know, in the last 24 hours, I just tried to put a list together for myself of just all of the
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incidents. You say, why are Republicans that's upset? I mean, obviously, it's a white hot moment
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in American politics. Do they have a reason to be upset? And just listen to this list, because this
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is a real list of real things that happened. Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, his home was raided. He's
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never been charged. Steve Bannon, he was indicted and convicted. James O'Keefe, someone who should
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have had journalism privilege, handcuffed and his home raided for trying to report on the Ashley
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Biden diary. Peter Navarro shackled in leg irons for a misdemeanor, a federal misdemeanor. Most times
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people get a notice to appear in those sort of things. You got Jeffrey Clark, the former deputy
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attorney general of the United States, his home raided, put it on the side of the street while FBI
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just remember, she was home. Scott Perry, congressman, his phone taken while his family's
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on vacation. Victoria Tenzing and Joe DeGeneva, who used to be my lawyers, their home was raided
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two years ago. Not a single criminal charge brought against him. Mike Flynn pleads guilty to a charge
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that the FBI said he actually didn't commit. Carter Page targeted for a FISA warrant, even though
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everything in that warrant suggested he had no culpability. They listened to his conversations,
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intruded his home for a year. That list is why Americans are so concerned, because there's not
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an equal list on the Democratic side. There's no raid of Hunter Biden's home. The Democratic lobbyists
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that were working alongside Paul Manafort in Ukraine, they didn't get the same charges as Paul
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Manafort. Again and again and again and again, people see one system for Republicans in the most
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extreme fashion, leg irons, handcuffs on the side of the road, just to have your home raided. And then
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the other side, walking scot-free. That's why we have a crisis of trust in America right now.
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It is. And we could have gone on from there. That was a short list.
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I was just about to say, if only the list ended there. But it does. It goes on and on. And at the top
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of that list, of course, is Donald Trump. Do you believe there is an avenue for him to appeal to
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the Supreme Court for some relief from what has been six years? And ladies and gentlemen, I'm not
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making this about approximating. He has been politically persecuted by the FBI and the Department
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of Justice for six years. That doesn't include individual jurisdictions like New York State or the
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Manhattan District Attorneys or Fulton County's DA. This is, it's outrageous.
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Yeah. Listen, there is an avenue. I've been surprised that the president's lawyers haven't
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been more aggressive in court. Eight days, nine days have passed. The ability to protect privileged
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documents wanes with each day. Even if the Justice Department is told later now, you can't look at
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them anymore. They've had nine days to go through them. A lot of people that I've talked to wonder,
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why didn't they do a show cause order immediately? Why didn't they ask for segregation of documents and
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get a special master appointed by the court, not by just asking DOJ to do it? There's been a lot of
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great television appearance lawyering going on, but not a lot of specific legal strikes. I'm going to
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mention a couple of things that I think are relevant, and it's only because I've interviewed lots of
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government officials. I think the first one is they have to, and most of the lawyers I've talked to
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believe they have to get the affidavit and find out what the allegation is. For instance, if the
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allegation that they needed to do this raid is based on some journalism article, let's suppose
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the article, and I don't have any reason to know one way or the other, but it's hypothetically
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possible because we saw the exact same thing in Russia. What if Maggie Haberman's article that the
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president flushed articles down the toilet was the genesis for this raid or used to support the raid
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that the president might engage in criminal behavior? That would be really shocking, and you
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say, oh, there's no chance of that, except that it was Michael Isikoff's article that's in Yahoo News
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planted by Christopher Steele that was used to justify the FISA warrant for Carter Page. So what is the
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basis for it? Is news media any complaints by liberals, any referrals from the January 6th committee
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infusing that? Then finding out the basis and whether that evidentiary promise to the judge is
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faulty, that's the first thing. I think there's a second interesting area that, and I've raised this
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issue, and the president gave me a statement last week saying this. The claim is that they're looking
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for a lot of classified documents. The president said originally, I declassified them all, but he didn't
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explain how. I really pressed him and his lawyers. Friday night, they gave me a very important
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statement that any time the president removed documents from a national security officer,
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took him out of the Oval Office where they normally are kept, and moved him to the residence,
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he had a declassification order, a standing declassification order. So the normal practice
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is they bring in a classified document, the president reads it in the Oval Office or on Air Force One or in
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his hotel on a foreign trip. As soon as that document's done, the process is that the security officer,
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the intelligence official, the person with the security clearance, is supposed to take that document
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back, secret it, give it to the staff secretary of the White House, put it back in a secure location.
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If that didn't happen, which we now know it didn't, that means something occurred. Either the
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intelligence officer abandoned his responsibility, left the document behind when he shouldn't,
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or there was a standing order by the president that if I move this to the residence for the
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convenience of my presidency, it's automatically declared classified. I think the president has now
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said that on the record. He's dug down and given us something on the record. We haven't heard
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justice's response. That could become a major avenue. And then I'm going to throw a really fun
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one in because I actually think it could be very relevant to this. Some evidence that was kept in
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Bill Clinton's sock drawer a decade ago when this case was made, actually it was three decades ago,
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but the case was made a decade ago, has incredible relevance today to the ability of the FBI agents
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to go in and raid Melania's closet. Let's just think about this for a second. In 2012, Judicial
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Watch sued the National Archives saying Bill Clinton had 90 tapes, approximately 90 tapes,
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of interviews he did with a historian while he was president capturing contemporaneous events of
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things he was doing as president. The Judicial Watch argued those were presidential records and they
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ordered, they filed a lawsuit trying to compel the National Archives to go get those tapes and put
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them into the body of collection of government documents that were there. The Justice Department
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under Barack Obama and eventually a federal judge ruled that the president's ability to decide what
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documents from his presidency are personal, not subject to disclosure, and government, meaning they
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should go to the archives, is basically absolute, unchallengeable, the president gets the discretion.
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Those things, like the classification and the personal documents thing, have not been out in the public
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at all. I think they become the basis for some very important court discussions that probably, as you
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That's fascinating, and I was unaware of that, that case, and that reasoning, but it makes perfect sense.
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These cases, as you know, don't always make perfect sense.
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Or the outcome, but that one does, and it makes perfect sense.
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The highest government official can always decide what is classified and what is not.
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That makes absolute sense. The commander-in-chief should have that. It's also a responsibility as
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Yeah, yeah, I think that that's exactly right. And if we are a nation where justice is blind,
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whether you agree with the court ruling in 2012 about Bill Clinton or not, you would expect both
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presidents to be treated the same. And we already have a significant record that the Clintons got
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treated far different than Donald Trump. When Hillary Clinton was under subpoena for two years,
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they find her law firm billing records hiding in the residence. You never see any FBI agents storm
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the residence like they did at Mar-a-Lago. We know that the government has used a different approach
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to people in similar circumstances and similar power circumstances. Donald Trump seems to get
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treated differently, and I think that's at this root of distrust between our government agencies
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You know, just a side note, Perkins-Coy, we're seeing this very tight relationship. It's an
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interdependent relationship, it appears to have grown up over the years, between the Marxist Dems
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and the FBI and Department of Justice, to the point that they had a portal in a direct
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And all of that classified material, all of that communication was within the scope of a client,
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almost an attorney-client privilege. But no one has ever answered this question. Were there other
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Democratic law firms also with portals? And does anybody know of one in a Republican law firm,
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Yeah. Well, listen, that is a great question. It takes on even more significance in the last few
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days when you read the letter that Senator Chuck Grassley sent Christopher Wray and Attorney General
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Merrick Garland about a week ago, where he says multiple FBI whistleblowers have approached the
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Judiciary Committee, sought whistleblower protection. They've now been referred to the Inspector General of the
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Justice Department. And one of the claims they made was that the FBI was wrongly relying on information coming from
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partisan liberals to open up criminal investigations of Republicans. So we know that happened in Russia
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collusion. He's not talking about Russia collusion, but let's remind people that the two primary sources of Russia
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collusion allegations that came in that led to the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and Carter Page and Donald Trump,
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they both came from Democratic sources. The first was Christopher Steele hired by Perkins Coie,
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the very law firm he did on behalf of the Clinton campaign. He drops the dossier in the FBI starting on July 5th,
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2016. And then a month or so later, Michael Sussman, a lawyer at Perkins Coie, again employed by the Clinton
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administration and working both for the Clinton campaign and a researcher who supported Hillary Clinton,
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he brings in the second half of the allegation, the bogus allegation of
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collusion or the false story of a server in Moscow where the two sides were talking.
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Two liberals walk in in the middle of an election year with partisan tainted allegations that are both
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turned out to be false and the FBI opens up on them. Chuck Grassley is saying that in the last year
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that's happened again, meaning someone with liberal ties is feeding information.
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And that information manifested itself in at least two ways. Now he suggests many ways, but
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Chuck Grassley says emphatically, the Washington field office, the one that conducted the raid on
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President Trump's compound this past week, the state, they in 2020 opened up a case against President
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Trump based on liberal information that didn't meet the standard for opening a predicate for a
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criminal case. So Donald Trump gets investigated again by liberal allegations that don't seem to
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meet the standard for what they call the predicate for opening an investigation. The same year that
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that's going on, according to Chuck Grassley, another thing happens, which is unsolicited,
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a intelligence analyst in New York by the name of Brian Naughton, who, by the way, worked on the
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FISA warrants that were so flawed in the Russia collusion case, he sends an unsolicited memo to
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the Washington field office saying, Hey guys, I think the, some of this evidence that we've been
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investigating about Hunter Biden's, the FBI evidence is Russian disinformation. No one asked
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him to do it. It comes in according to Chuck Grassley, according to whistleblowers, that evidence
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was actually legitimate and real, but the, the unsolicited intelligence analysis comes in. It actually
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causes a part of the Hunter Biden investigation to be shut down. Donald Trump gets started on false
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evidence. Hunter Biden gets blacked or blocked an investigation on good evidence. That's why the, the,
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the, what you're mentioning that was so relevant. There are current allegations saying this is going on
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And, you know, it points to another thing, John, and I really think we need to, and no one's talking
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about this or as far as I know, examining the importance of a very important architecture in
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the FBI. Unlike, for example, the CIA, which has only foreign responsibilities against foreign
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assets and enemies. The FBI has a dual role and they are exploiting that dual role for illegitimate
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purposes of all kinds. But certainly it also begs the question of how well they can do their primary
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job, which is law enforcement and their national security division. In my opinion, John, should be
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absolutely abolished forthwith. Uh, and I mean, every stitch of it and all of those agents, the apparatus
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removed and never permitted to exist again in any form in any agency or department. What do you think?
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Listen, I've talked to a lot of people that say the last six years, last seven years of drama that
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we've had overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing where intelligence matters, counterintelligence
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matters ultimately became criminal matters. Uh, it has raised so much troubling. And by the way,
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this divide has been a concern for 30 to 40 years. In 9-11, we learned that the divide between the
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FBI's counterintelligence, uh, side and its criminal side prevented the FBI from putting together the
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dots that, uh, uh, connected dots that showed that there was a plot underway, even though they had all
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the pieces of it, they didn't put it together that a plot was underway, uh, to attack America. And of
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course that became the 9-11 plot. So it was a concern that then they took down the walls, uh,
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these prohibitions and the two sides began walking in by a decade later, we're now talking about there
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being abusive. Someone starts on a counterintelligence side, unmasks the conversation
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and refers it to the criminal side and trying to do a criminal side. A lot of people that I'm
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talking about, including retired members of the FBI, believe that we ought to borrow the British
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model. There's not a lot of things I'd say we ought to borrow the British model for, but these people
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think this is important. You've got MI5 and MI6 that do internal and external, uh, domestic spying,
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domestic and foreign spying. And then you have Scotland Yard separate that does the criminal
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investigations. I think a lot of people, including some in Congress now that are looking at what's
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the right reform to fix the FBI, believe that maybe the FBI should become Scotland Yard and we
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create a new domestic, um, intelligence agency for which there's a good firewall. And, and we don't
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have the temptation to use spies to make political criminal cases against our enemies, which is really
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at the heart of the allegations of the last seven years. Would you agree with me that we should
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abolish them forthwith? I, I don't care what the, uh, the British do or anybody else does, but we've
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learned one thing. This doesn't work. And the temptation for corruption has been longstanding
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by decades. Uh, and we are watching, uh, the country's destiny hang in the balance because of
00:26:10.480
the corruption of the department of justice, the FBI and the white house. Yeah. I always try not to
00:26:17.940
express opinions because I have to cover this stuff. I can tell you a lot of smart people
00:26:21.340
share your belief and concern really strongly. And, uh, and I think it's gaining momentum. I think
00:26:27.360
there are two things that are gaining momentum right now in Congress among the Republicans and
00:26:31.800
quite frankly, among some of the, uh, libertarians or libertarians. I think when you listen, uh, to the
00:26:38.260
former Congresswoman from Ohio ran for president a couple of years ago, Tulsi Gabbard, she's talking this
00:26:43.740
way too. Um, I think there are two things we're going to see a growing momentum for, uh, shrinking
00:26:50.300
the FBI, reforming it, changing it, closing it down, starting something new. I don't know where it
00:26:55.120
falls there, but there's momentum there. And the second thing is I think people are starting to get
00:26:58.920
really in love with the flat tax, the fair tax and get rid of the IRS. If everyone has to just know
00:27:03.860
what they pay out of the gate, forget everything else about it. The rich don't get to get rid of all of
00:27:08.120
their tax liabilities, the porter and the middle class and the working class know what they owe right out of the
00:27:12.480
that. Uh, and then you don't need an IRS with 87,000 agents, $80 billion in new revenue, millions
00:27:18.860
of audits. And of course the ammunition, I think a lot of people concerned about that. Those two
00:27:24.440
legislative ideas are gaining steam. I just talked to a Congressman literally just about 30, 40 minutes
00:27:29.800
ago who said, you know what? I wasn't for the fair tax. I am now. Uh, we've got too much abuse going
00:27:36.580
on in this country. So I think Lou, you're onto something. I think what you're thinking is what a lot of
00:27:40.840
people in Congress are now beginning to rally around. And next year, if there's a change of
00:27:45.500
power in Congress, you might see the first execution on those ideas. Well, if, if this Republican party,
00:27:52.800
this Congress permits 87,000 pistol toting IRS agents to be hired, uh, then we are doomed because
00:28:01.900
that means that our Congress, our senators, just as stupid as, uh, some of us have imagined them to be.
00:28:07.960
Uh, I, I don't need any more, uh, evidence, any more proof. Uh, please rest yourselves and fight
00:28:15.100
like hell against this Biden nightmare. Uh, so John, I want to turn to another thing. The,
00:28:21.020
the issue of the mole, this president has been plagued with, uh, human spies, apparently planted
00:28:27.820
at various points, or at least so the FBI has made us think. Is this a mole within his post
00:28:34.960
presidency, uh, cadre, uh, or is this the, uh, the information sharing between the secret service
00:28:43.100
and the FBI? What is your, your thinking? To be determined, I think, but, uh, when the first
00:28:48.640
report came about out of Newsweek, it said two things. One that, um, Attorney General Merrick Garland
00:28:55.660
was out of the loop. That did not seem possible to me at all, given how the Justice Department works
00:29:00.840
and that there are specific rules that say the Attorney General personally must approve it. So I
00:29:05.120
was suspect of the story, but the second angle in that story was there was a confidential human
00:29:09.680
source. That means someone like a Christopher Steele or, uh, uh, Stefan Halper, who we know from
00:29:15.060
Russia fame, was on the dole or under the control of the FBI informing for that. When I started to ask
00:29:20.840
about that, the first thing I was told is, well, the first part is definitely wrong. Uh, uh,
00:29:25.840
Merrick Garland approved this and that's a false story. And of course, Merrick Garland himself came
00:29:30.540
out a couple of days, but we were ahead of that by a couple of days. The second thing I was told
00:29:34.200
is, I think the term confidential human source is the wrong term. There might be a cooperating
00:29:39.500
witness who might've been available and helping. And let's just give one possible innocuous scenario
00:29:45.700
that takes it out of the drama thing. Uh, there was a woman that used to, uh, work for the
00:29:51.000
president, both in the white house and in, uh, the, uh, Mar-a-Lago. And she would be the sort of
00:29:56.320
person almost certainly based on her job description that the president said, you know, I'd love to get
00:30:01.380
those newspaper clips I had down in my storage locker about my speech in Europe. She would go
00:30:07.100
down almost certainly would be her job to go down, open up the locker, get the box that has the speech
00:30:11.760
documents in it and bring it back to the president. I think that's the sort of, and then, you know,
00:30:16.360
if she was hauled before the grand jury, which is entirely possible, that's the sort of question
00:30:20.360
that doesn't mean she was spying on the president just means that in a grand jury to the president
00:30:24.060
after ask you, I think it's far more innocuous. That's what I've been led to believe a secret
00:30:29.380
service agent could have made the same testimony. I don't get a sense that there's somebody that's
00:30:33.300
been with a listening glass on president Trump's door trying to figure out what he's doing, but
00:30:37.360
we'll have to wait and see what that affidavit. That's why that affidavit is so important to get
00:30:41.780
unsealed for America. I had, I have exactly the same impression you do. Uh, I even think I know who that
00:30:50.360
person might be sure. Uh, and I'm sure everyone else thinks they know exactly all of this, but
00:30:57.280
you know, Mike, I have my private and, uh, yeah, I think you're probably right. It's probably
00:31:01.800
something a lot less nefarious than what the media, one of the great things the media has done time
00:31:05.900
and again, it's irrefutable. They always, uh, uh, exaggerate about Donald Trump. And then how many
00:31:11.860
months later do we find out? Oh, that wasn't true. Lafayette park, a Russian, um, bounties on American
00:31:17.900
heads. All those things, which sounded great at the time, none of them turned out to be true. I
00:31:22.800
think we really have to take the mainstream media with far greater, uh, scrutiny and distrust than
00:31:28.460
we did 20 years ago. Yeah. I think we should be applying to the corporate media, all media in
00:31:34.000
point of fact, uh, the same skepticism that we should be applying to this government corrupt, uh, and,
00:31:41.680
and, uh, toxic as it has become, uh, there should be, they have a burden of proof to prove they have
00:31:48.920
any vestige of integrity. I have to say the fact that there are, uh, at least 14 whistleblowers who've
00:31:55.100
stepped forward from the justice department and the FBI, uh, it is sunshine, uh, in my being for it to
00:32:02.760
have occurred because at this point, after six years, I had given up that there would be, uh, this much
00:32:08.600
integrity left that people, that men and women in the FBI would step forward. Thank God some did,
00:32:13.940
uh, there's a vestige of faith, uh, in, in those two departments that I still, you know, still resides
00:32:20.860
within me. Uh, I, you know, at various points, I, I asked myself why, but, uh, it does, uh, let, let's,
00:32:29.500
I'd also like to get your sense, uh, on, uh, this, the idea that this president has lost his executive
00:32:39.600
privilege, his client attorney privilege, uh, is there any, any, anything that can bring him back
00:32:49.140
into balance, uh, restore the fourth amendment to the president, the former president of the United
00:32:55.080
States? Uh, what is, is there a cure here? It's a great question. And I think just like with Roe v.
00:33:03.220
Wade, the question that lingered for a half a century, we now know, I think at the end of the
00:33:07.400
day, these issues are going to probably end up back in the Supreme court, which case it is at what
00:33:11.980
moment does it come unclear? Uh, but I think you have to assume that the justice is looking on down
00:33:18.380
on America from the ivory tower. That is the Supreme court have to see fourth amendment issues,
00:33:24.480
have to see executive privilege issues. And the more we learn about, uh, the quality of the claims,
00:33:32.700
the quality of the assertions, the omissions from the warrant, the more likely it is that we're going
00:33:37.160
to see this get to the Supreme court. I'm actually surprised that some of the Russia collusion, um,
00:33:42.760
issues didn't get to the Supreme court. I think that was a missed opportunity for the president and
00:33:47.680
his defenders, but, um, certainly this search, which by the way, has consequences for all future
00:33:54.040
presidents. This isn't just about Donald Trump. I think something from this case eventually will
00:33:59.480
get into the court system and work its way to the Supreme court. We need to resolve, uh, the fourth
00:34:05.000
amendment executive privilege and attorney client privileges of the president so that those of us
00:34:09.800
who are mere mortals down below a president, uh, can know the protections that we still are supposed to
00:34:14.920
enjoy. And I think this becomes, uh, an epic case to, to really debate the state of the, uh, the, uh,
00:34:21.800
bill of rights in America. Well, and the sooner, the better. And in my opinion, uh, I want to
00:34:29.800
conclude on the news week reporting and how it, uh, was obviously the publication of choice here is a
00:34:38.360
little red, little known, uh, and, uh, publication with a horrific, uh, checkered, uh, background.
00:34:48.440
I'll put it that way. How is it? Does it make you suspicious that the FBI made that choice?
00:34:54.760
How is it that that choice seems almost the, the media, uh, analog to the legal choice of Bruce
00:35:02.600
Reinhardt, a magistrate instead of a, an article three judge, right? Being selected for a search
00:35:10.280
warrant and who now holds the power to, uh, to declassify, to reveal the warrant, uh, affidavit
00:35:21.640
that made the search possible. Those are great questions, Lou. And I don't know the answer again.
00:35:26.760
I often wonder when I, after doing interviews with legal experts, why the president hasn't already gone
00:35:32.680
in and asked for that judge to be removed. Now, why we, why could he do that? Because one year before
00:35:37.960
he became a judge in 2018 and 2017, he posted on social media, a clearly biased statement against
00:35:44.040
the president calling into question, uh, the president's moral character and saying it wasn't
00:35:48.920
nearly as equivalent as that of John Lewis, the late congressman and civil rights leader.
00:35:54.520
I'm surprised he hasn't been knocked out. I'm surprised they're letting him rule on these
00:35:58.040
decisions. Now they could easily have appealed to the district court saying, we think there's a bias
00:36:03.160
problem here. I wrote about this procedure. Again, I, uh, if as a journalist, just looking
00:36:08.520
neutrally at this, I think the president's legal team has been slow in plotting and there are many
00:36:13.320
things that could have already happened that lawyers are saying, I don't know why they haven't
00:36:16.120
done it yet. At some point, these issues have to get into a higher court than an appointed magistrate
00:36:22.120
with a long history of colorful and politically biased, uh, social media posting. I think that, uh,
00:36:28.200
I'm shocked and many of the people I talked to are shocked that that issue hasn't become more germane
00:36:34.040
to the legal battle right now. So I assume at some point it will be. John Solomon, we have run the
00:36:41.160
gamut and I appreciate your patience and your insight and as always your knowledge and wisdom.
00:36:48.040
Yeah. Honored to be on the show, Lou. You're a good friend and also one of the greatest journalists
00:36:52.280
in this country. So it's always an honor to have a conversation with you. Thanks so much,
00:36:56.280
John. And, uh, and same right back at you. I appreciate it. Thank you. John Solomon, uh,
00:37:02.360
the CEO, the founder, uh, the executive editor, and the, uh, the spirit, uh, that animates just
00:37:10.280
the news.com. God bless you. You as well, sir. Thank you. Thank you everybody for being with us as we
00:37:16.840
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00:37:29.240
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00:37:36.200
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00:37:42.200
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