The Great America Show - SOLOMON SAYS BIG GOVT IS A CONCERN FOR ALL AMERICANS, IT’S NOT TRUMP VS DEMS. IT’S ABOUT THE ESSENCE OF AMERICA, THE CONSTITUTION

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show, Truth, Justice,

00:00:05.340 the American Way. That's the way we like it here. And the truth is emerging daily from the darkness

00:00:11.260 imposed by this administration and its Marxist Dem masters. The truth is that the Dems and the

00:00:17.980 deep state have managed to infiltrate every important government agency and over the years

00:00:24.440 have taken possession of the federal bureaucracy and much, much more. Our federal government is

00:00:30.940 fully corrupted and that political corruption is in full view of the American people. There is no

00:00:37.280 doubt there is no debate. In full view, but not fully understood yet. The enormity of the Marxist

00:00:45.300 Dems' public corruption isn't only hard to comprehend, but to even imagine such evil. No one does a better

00:00:53.400 job of reporting the developing stories about the massive corruption that has overwhelmed our

00:00:58.460 government than justthenews.com and its founder and chief editor, John Solomon. Welcome, John,

00:01:05.640 and it's great to have you with us here on the Great America Show. Already, the FBI and Justice

00:01:10.540 Department are backtracking. They've had to admit they over-collected when they seized boxes and took

00:01:16.780 some 15 of them with them, over-confiscated the property of a former president of the United

00:01:23.760 States. Your reaction, John? It's amazing. We all, as Americans, have a Fourth Amendment privilege,

00:01:29.180 right? So we should, the rule for search warrants is they should be cast as narrowly as possible.

00:01:35.000 Presidents have other privileges that we don't have, including executive privilege. And what we were told

00:01:41.040 last night, and it has been confirmed by multiple government officials, is that the FBI collected

00:01:46.700 lots of materials that were actually not responsive to the subpoenas. So when they spent nine hours going

00:01:51.980 through the closets and the desk drawers and the lockers, they took a lot of things that actually

00:01:57.560 weren't covered by the description of the search warrant. And let's give you some of those. We know for

00:02:03.640 certain now that there were three passports, two expired, one current, that they took from the

00:02:09.280 president's office. There's nothing in the search warrant that suggests that that is covered. And

00:02:17.460 of course, it's not a presidential record. Everyone has a passport, even when you're not

00:02:20.780 a president. So that one is a head scratcher. Why they would take that, no one knows. The second one,

00:02:27.240 and this is one that's going to become more contentious, is that there are numerous documents

00:02:31.060 that the government now acknowledges are covered by privilege. Now, that could be attorney-client privilege,

00:02:35.740 because it could be communications between the president and his lawyers, or executive

00:02:40.420 privilege, conversations about the advice the president got when he's present that's normally

00:02:46.540 protected. How those could be scooped up and not be segregated immediately is certainly going to

00:02:52.940 become an argument of fact and law, I think, in the near distant future. But there's another part to

00:02:58.740 this which is kind of remarkable, which is the Justice Department has named their own person to decide

00:03:03.660 what's privileged to not. I can't believe that's going to fly. I have to assume that President

00:03:09.160 Trump's lawyers are going to go to court soon and say, hey, we want an independent special master

00:03:13.640 named by the court to go through these and resolve these things. And then there's a third one that's

00:03:18.260 just a head scratcher, because most of the search warrant returns that have been made public by the

00:03:23.420 Justice Department through the court are very generic. Like, we found a box of documents. We found

00:03:27.920 the documents marked top secret. This one was very specifically identified, a file related to the

00:03:35.200 pardon of Roger Stone. For most of the people I've talked to, current and former FBI, current and

00:03:42.260 former Justice Department officials, they're scratching their heads saying, why that? First off,

00:03:48.280 the pardon's already publicly known. Two, there could be executive privilege in the documents

00:03:52.440 surrounding why the president considered a pardon for Roger. Those three things are in the over

00:03:59.800 collection bucket right now. And I went to one of the really great story executives of the FBI,

00:04:06.740 someone who is universally respected, Democrats and Republicans both like him. He was the first

00:04:11.800 intelligence chief after 9-11 for the FBI. His name is Kevin Brock. He was the former assistant director

00:04:16.940 served under Bob Mueller. So he's, you know, someone that has a long history in the FBI.

00:04:21.880 He looked at this last night and said to me flatly, the president has an extraordinary

00:04:26.900 legal challenge to be made here. This is an FBI man, a 30 year plus FBI man, that the search warrant is

00:04:34.500 so broadly worded that it defies the guide that the FBI uses for its own agents to do it. And he pointed

00:04:42.180 this out, which is, it basically says any record covered during the presidency of 2017 to 2021,

00:04:48.420 so January 2017 to January 2021. It asked for that broader collection of documents that in fact,

00:04:55.900 any president in the future should feel chilled about this. Basically, they can come at any time

00:05:00.360 and gather anything they want from your home based on the description of this warrant. He was a big

00:05:05.080 critic of the way the warrant is worded. And then the fact that even as broadly worded as that,

00:05:10.520 that they would take something like privileged materials or passports made him scratch his head.

00:05:15.600 This is a lot career lifelong G man for the FBI calling out in, in, in criticizing his own agency.

00:05:24.040 I believe, John, that there are millions of Americans who would say,

00:05:29.680 and I, I have to count myself among them. Why should any of us be surprised? FBI and DOJ have

00:05:39.100 been acting like fascist thugs for at least six years that we know of. And now it makes me think

00:05:45.520 we should be going back at least another two decades to find out actually what they were doing.

00:05:50.440 But in that period, from, from 2016 to today, we are looking at two agencies that are absolutely

00:06:00.080 an embarrassment to the very idea of public service, public servants, and the rule of law.

00:06:09.180 Yeah, it's, this is overwhelming. Yeah. And listen, the warning signs for this were so many,

00:06:16.900 all through Russia collusion, all through the Michigan cases, whether the Olympian sex case or

00:06:22.500 the Whitmer kidnapping case, we kept seeing bright red flashing lights saying the FBI has a serious

00:06:30.520 problem. It can't be truthful to the courts. It doesn't follow its own procedures to make sure

00:06:35.420 FISA warrants or regular warrants are properly there. They have informants that seem to be way

00:06:41.540 too integrated into the criminal plots. This has been going on for six years. And we have an FBI

00:06:47.140 director that swears, I've got new rules. It's fixed. It doesn't, nothing has been fixed. The IG,

00:06:53.040 the inspector general of the independent watchdog of the justice department just about six months ago

00:06:57.620 said, Hey, I know you put all those rules in after the Russia collusion FISA warrants were deemed to be

00:07:03.260 unlawful, misleading, inaccurate, containing egregious omissions. But guess what? We looked at a bunch more

00:07:09.980 FISA warrants. You didn't comply with your new rules at all. And they still have the same problems

00:07:14.240 like we saw in Russia. The red blinking lights are there. Chris Ray has not done enough to deter bad

00:07:21.380 behavior or to create good behavior in compliance with his laws. I think that the buck stops at the

00:07:27.320 top of this barrel. I think you're right. And I also think that you're reporting on this is very

00:07:36.240 important because it shows right now that the FBI was willing to ignore the executive privilege of a

00:07:44.500 former president of the United States, the attorney client privilege of a former president of the

00:07:51.680 United States. What on earth are they doing with regular citizens like you and me and members of this

00:07:58.940 audience? So important. So important to remind that if it could happen to the most powerful men in the

00:08:03.820 world, then it almost certainly could happen to the rest of us. And we don't have the resources

00:08:08.880 nor the spotlight to maybe fight that. And I think that's the problem. The FBI, the IRS with 87,000 new

00:08:16.700 agents now being added to its ranks after going through a scandal just a decade ago for which there's

00:08:22.260 no proof that the IRS has reformed itself. The concern that big government will in a big way intrude on

00:08:30.160 our liberty, on our most important rights as humans, it's growing. It's not waning. There is this

00:08:37.660 big, big, giant concern in America. For all of us, this isn't just a Trump versus the Democrats battle.

00:08:44.220 This is about the essence of America, our civil liberties, our Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

00:08:49.960 And when you hear a lifelong FBI guy who loves the Bureau, wants to do it right, raising his own red flag,

00:08:56.500 saying, we got a problem here, America, that ought to be a wake-up call for all of us.

00:09:02.860 Without question. And it raises the question about a constitutional crisis, frankly, because

00:09:12.160 this is now at a level that there is no, in my judgment at least, there is no resolution that is

00:09:21.600 obvious, near at hand, or that will be satisfactory, given the level of corruption in the federal

00:09:29.820 government. How soon can President Trump make a case to the Supreme Court to rein in these actors

00:09:41.340 in the Justice Department and the FBI? Because this can't stand, and it's not going to stand. And we need

00:09:49.500 to reestablish rules and enforcement of rules by those who are hired and employed to do so. That is,

00:09:58.040 namely, the very people who are plotting the law across the board, the DOJ and the FBI.

00:10:06.560 You know, in the last 24 hours, I just tried to put a list together for myself of just all of the

00:10:14.380 incidents. You say, why are Republicans that's upset? I mean, obviously, it's a white hot moment

00:10:18.480 in American politics. Do they have a reason to be upset? And just listen to this list, because this

00:10:24.920 is a real list of real things that happened. Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, his home was raided. He's

00:10:30.680 never been charged. Steve Bannon, he was indicted and convicted. James O'Keefe, someone who should

00:10:36.580 have had journalism privilege, handcuffed and his home raided for trying to report on the Ashley

00:10:43.400 Biden diary. Peter Navarro shackled in leg irons for a misdemeanor, a federal misdemeanor. Most times

00:10:50.100 people get a notice to appear in those sort of things. You got Jeffrey Clark, the former deputy

00:10:54.820 attorney general of the United States, his home raided, put it on the side of the street while FBI

00:10:59.620 just remember, she was home. Scott Perry, congressman, his phone taken while his family's

00:11:03.760 on vacation. Victoria Tenzing and Joe DeGeneva, who used to be my lawyers, their home was raided

00:11:09.340 two years ago. Not a single criminal charge brought against him. Mike Flynn pleads guilty to a charge

00:11:14.820 that the FBI said he actually didn't commit. Carter Page targeted for a FISA warrant, even though

00:11:20.940 everything in that warrant suggested he had no culpability. They listened to his conversations,

00:11:26.100 intruded his home for a year. That list is why Americans are so concerned, because there's not

00:11:32.740 an equal list on the Democratic side. There's no raid of Hunter Biden's home. The Democratic lobbyists

00:11:39.740 that were working alongside Paul Manafort in Ukraine, they didn't get the same charges as Paul

00:11:44.140 Manafort. Again and again and again and again, people see one system for Republicans in the most

00:11:50.400 extreme fashion, leg irons, handcuffs on the side of the road, just to have your home raided. And then

00:11:56.380 the other side, walking scot-free. That's why we have a crisis of trust in America right now.

00:12:02.300 It's an imposing list, isn't it?

00:12:04.560 It is. And we could have gone on from there. That was a short list.

00:12:08.060 I was just about to say, if only the list ended there. But it does. It goes on and on. And at the top

00:12:15.760 of that list, of course, is Donald Trump. Do you believe there is an avenue for him to appeal to

00:12:23.360 the Supreme Court for some relief from what has been six years? And ladies and gentlemen, I'm not

00:12:29.660 making this about approximating. He has been politically persecuted by the FBI and the Department

00:12:36.460 of Justice for six years. That doesn't include individual jurisdictions like New York State or the

00:12:43.600 Manhattan District Attorneys or Fulton County's DA. This is, it's outrageous.

00:12:51.040 Yeah. Listen, there is an avenue. I've been surprised that the president's lawyers haven't

00:12:55.020 been more aggressive in court. Eight days, nine days have passed. The ability to protect privileged

00:13:00.500 documents wanes with each day. Even if the Justice Department is told later now, you can't look at

00:13:06.740 them anymore. They've had nine days to go through them. A lot of people that I've talked to wonder,

00:13:10.560 why didn't they do a show cause order immediately? Why didn't they ask for segregation of documents and

00:13:15.940 get a special master appointed by the court, not by just asking DOJ to do it? There's been a lot of

00:13:21.640 great television appearance lawyering going on, but not a lot of specific legal strikes. I'm going to

00:13:27.300 mention a couple of things that I think are relevant, and it's only because I've interviewed lots of

00:13:30.920 government officials. I think the first one is they have to, and most of the lawyers I've talked to

00:13:36.520 believe they have to get the affidavit and find out what the allegation is. For instance, if the

00:13:42.300 allegation that they needed to do this raid is based on some journalism article, let's suppose

00:13:47.920 the article, and I don't have any reason to know one way or the other, but it's hypothetically

00:13:52.020 possible because we saw the exact same thing in Russia. What if Maggie Haberman's article that the

00:13:57.460 president flushed articles down the toilet was the genesis for this raid or used to support the raid

00:14:03.820 that the president might engage in criminal behavior? That would be really shocking, and you

00:14:08.060 say, oh, there's no chance of that, except that it was Michael Isikoff's article that's in Yahoo News

00:14:13.360 planted by Christopher Steele that was used to justify the FISA warrant for Carter Page. So what is the

00:14:21.000 basis for it? Is news media any complaints by liberals, any referrals from the January 6th committee

00:14:27.120 infusing that? Then finding out the basis and whether that evidentiary promise to the judge is

00:14:34.520 faulty, that's the first thing. I think there's a second interesting area that, and I've raised this

00:14:40.180 issue, and the president gave me a statement last week saying this. The claim is that they're looking

00:14:44.740 for a lot of classified documents. The president said originally, I declassified them all, but he didn't

00:14:50.180 explain how. I really pressed him and his lawyers. Friday night, they gave me a very important

00:14:54.460 statement that any time the president removed documents from a national security officer,

00:14:59.740 took him out of the Oval Office where they normally are kept, and moved him to the residence,

00:15:04.240 he had a declassification order, a standing declassification order. So the normal practice

00:15:09.540 is they bring in a classified document, the president reads it in the Oval Office or on Air Force One or in

00:15:14.620 his hotel on a foreign trip. As soon as that document's done, the process is that the security officer,

00:15:19.640 the intelligence official, the person with the security clearance, is supposed to take that document

00:15:23.500 back, secret it, give it to the staff secretary of the White House, put it back in a secure location.

00:15:28.380 If that didn't happen, which we now know it didn't, that means something occurred. Either the

00:15:33.480 intelligence officer abandoned his responsibility, left the document behind when he shouldn't,

00:15:38.320 or there was a standing order by the president that if I move this to the residence for the

00:15:42.220 convenience of my presidency, it's automatically declared classified. I think the president has now

00:15:47.680 said that on the record. He's dug down and given us something on the record. We haven't heard

00:15:52.560 justice's response. That could become a major avenue. And then I'm going to throw a really fun

00:15:57.120 one in because I actually think it could be very relevant to this. Some evidence that was kept in

00:16:03.060 Bill Clinton's sock drawer a decade ago when this case was made, actually it was three decades ago,

00:16:10.260 but the case was made a decade ago, has incredible relevance today to the ability of the FBI agents

00:16:16.080 to go in and raid Melania's closet. Let's just think about this for a second. In 2012, Judicial

00:16:22.000 Watch sued the National Archives saying Bill Clinton had 90 tapes, approximately 90 tapes,

00:16:28.860 of interviews he did with a historian while he was president capturing contemporaneous events of

00:16:34.100 things he was doing as president. The Judicial Watch argued those were presidential records and they

00:16:38.780 ordered, they filed a lawsuit trying to compel the National Archives to go get those tapes and put

00:16:44.020 them into the body of collection of government documents that were there. The Justice Department

00:16:50.240 under Barack Obama and eventually a federal judge ruled that the president's ability to decide what

00:16:56.840 documents from his presidency are personal, not subject to disclosure, and government, meaning they

00:17:04.240 should go to the archives, is basically absolute, unchallengeable, the president gets the discretion.

00:17:10.080 Those things, like the classification and the personal documents thing, have not been out in the public

00:17:18.140 at all. I think they become the basis for some very important court discussions that probably, as you

00:17:23.040 suggest, make it to the Supreme Court.

00:17:25.040 That's fascinating, and I was unaware of that, that case, and that reasoning, but it makes perfect sense.

00:17:36.200 These cases, as you know, don't always make perfect sense.

00:17:39.560 No, that's right.

00:17:40.340 Or the outcome, but that one does, and it makes perfect sense.

00:17:44.540 The highest government official can always decide what is classified and what is not.

00:17:50.880 That makes absolute sense. The commander-in-chief should have that. It's also a responsibility as

00:17:57.020 well as prerogative.

00:17:58.300 Yeah, yeah, I think that that's exactly right. And if we are a nation where justice is blind,

00:18:05.200 whether you agree with the court ruling in 2012 about Bill Clinton or not, you would expect both

00:18:10.640 presidents to be treated the same. And we already have a significant record that the Clintons got 0.79

00:18:15.800 treated far different than Donald Trump. When Hillary Clinton was under subpoena for two years,

00:18:21.100 they find her law firm billing records hiding in the residence. You never see any FBI agents storm

00:18:27.220 the residence like they did at Mar-a-Lago. We know that the government has used a different approach

00:18:33.400 to people in similar circumstances and similar power circumstances. Donald Trump seems to get

00:18:39.380 treated differently, and I think that's at this root of distrust between our government agencies

00:18:44.320 and the American public.

00:18:45.400 You know, just a side note, Perkins-Coy, we're seeing this very tight relationship. It's an

00:18:53.660 interdependent relationship, it appears to have grown up over the years, between the Marxist Dems

00:18:59.660 and the FBI and Department of Justice, to the point that they had a portal in a direct

00:19:06.720 connection into the heart of the FBI system.

00:19:14.320 And all of that classified material, all of that communication was within the scope of a client,

00:19:23.740 almost an attorney-client privilege. But no one has ever answered this question. Were there other

00:19:29.340 Democratic law firms also with portals? And does anybody know of one in a Republican law firm,

00:19:37.540 if there is such a thing in this country?

00:19:39.740 Yeah. Well, listen, that is a great question. It takes on even more significance in the last few

00:19:45.480 days when you read the letter that Senator Chuck Grassley sent Christopher Wray and Attorney General

00:19:51.940 Merrick Garland about a week ago, where he says multiple FBI whistleblowers have approached the

00:19:57.700 Judiciary Committee, sought whistleblower protection. They've now been referred to the Inspector General of the

00:20:02.480 Justice Department. And one of the claims they made was that the FBI was wrongly relying on information coming from

00:20:10.040 partisan liberals to open up criminal investigations of Republicans. So we know that happened in Russia

00:20:17.680 collusion. He's not talking about Russia collusion, but let's remind people that the two primary sources of Russia

00:20:23.480 collusion allegations that came in that led to the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and Carter Page and Donald Trump,

00:20:30.280 they both came from Democratic sources. The first was Christopher Steele hired by Perkins Coie,

00:20:36.860 the very law firm he did on behalf of the Clinton campaign. He drops the dossier in the FBI starting on July 5th,

00:20:42.740 2016. And then a month or so later, Michael Sussman, a lawyer at Perkins Coie, again employed by the Clinton

00:20:49.020 administration and working both for the Clinton campaign and a researcher who supported Hillary Clinton,

00:20:56.520 he brings in the second half of the allegation, the bogus allegation of

00:21:01.220 collusion or the false story of a server in Moscow where the two sides were talking.

00:21:09.840 Two liberals walk in in the middle of an election year with partisan tainted allegations that are both

00:21:16.040 turned out to be false and the FBI opens up on them. Chuck Grassley is saying that in the last year

00:21:23.060 that's happened again, meaning someone with liberal ties is feeding information.

00:21:27.880 And that information manifested itself in at least two ways. Now he suggests many ways, but

00:21:32.180 Chuck Grassley says emphatically, the Washington field office, the one that conducted the raid on

00:21:38.040 President Trump's compound this past week, the state, they in 2020 opened up a case against President

00:21:47.380 Trump based on liberal information that didn't meet the standard for opening a predicate for a

00:21:53.080 criminal case. So Donald Trump gets investigated again by liberal allegations that don't seem to

00:21:58.660 meet the standard for what they call the predicate for opening an investigation. The same year that

00:22:03.100 that's going on, according to Chuck Grassley, another thing happens, which is unsolicited,

00:22:09.120 a intelligence analyst in New York by the name of Brian Naughton, who, by the way, worked on the

00:22:14.280 FISA warrants that were so flawed in the Russia collusion case, he sends an unsolicited memo to

00:22:20.340 the Washington field office saying, Hey guys, I think the, some of this evidence that we've been

00:22:25.200 investigating about Hunter Biden's, the FBI evidence is Russian disinformation. No one asked

00:22:30.200 him to do it. It comes in according to Chuck Grassley, according to whistleblowers, that evidence

00:22:34.840 was actually legitimate and real, but the, the unsolicited intelligence analysis comes in. It actually

00:22:41.020 causes a part of the Hunter Biden investigation to be shut down. Donald Trump gets started on false

00:22:46.560 evidence. Hunter Biden gets blacked or blocked an investigation on good evidence. That's why the, the,

00:22:55.380 the, what you're mentioning that was so relevant. There are current allegations saying this is going on

00:23:00.100 right now.

00:23:01.800 And, you know, it points to another thing, John, and I really think we need to, and no one's talking

00:23:07.540 about this or as far as I know, examining the importance of a very important architecture in

00:23:16.280 the FBI. Unlike, for example, the CIA, which has only foreign responsibilities against foreign

00:23:24.140 assets and enemies. The FBI has a dual role and they are exploiting that dual role for illegitimate

00:23:35.760 purposes of all kinds. But certainly it also begs the question of how well they can do their primary

00:23:42.380 job, which is law enforcement and their national security division. In my opinion, John, should be

00:23:48.840 absolutely abolished forthwith. Uh, and I mean, every stitch of it and all of those agents, the apparatus

00:23:57.840 removed and never permitted to exist again in any form in any agency or department. What do you think?

00:24:04.940 Listen, I've talked to a lot of people that say the last six years, last seven years of drama that

00:24:10.880 we've had overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing where intelligence matters, counterintelligence

00:24:16.440 matters ultimately became criminal matters. Uh, it has raised so much troubling. And by the way,

00:24:22.880 this divide has been a concern for 30 to 40 years. In 9-11, we learned that the divide between the

00:24:30.120 FBI's counterintelligence, uh, side and its criminal side prevented the FBI from putting together the

00:24:36.680 dots that, uh, uh, connected dots that showed that there was a plot underway, even though they had all

00:24:41.120 the pieces of it, they didn't put it together that a plot was underway, uh, to attack America. And of

00:24:45.840 course that became the 9-11 plot. So it was a concern that then they took down the walls, uh,

00:24:50.760 these prohibitions and the two sides began walking in by a decade later, we're now talking about there

00:24:56.140 being abusive. Someone starts on a counterintelligence side, unmasks the conversation

00:24:59.840 and refers it to the criminal side and trying to do a criminal side. A lot of people that I'm

00:25:04.280 talking about, including retired members of the FBI, believe that we ought to borrow the British

00:25:09.760 model. There's not a lot of things I'd say we ought to borrow the British model for, but these people

00:25:13.240 think this is important. You've got MI5 and MI6 that do internal and external, uh, domestic spying,

00:25:19.900 domestic and foreign spying. And then you have Scotland Yard separate that does the criminal

00:25:23.980 investigations. I think a lot of people, including some in Congress now that are looking at what's

00:25:28.680 the right reform to fix the FBI, believe that maybe the FBI should become Scotland Yard and we

00:25:34.060 create a new domestic, um, intelligence agency for which there's a good firewall. And, and we don't

00:25:40.220 have the temptation to use spies to make political criminal cases against our enemies, which is really

00:25:46.200 at the heart of the allegations of the last seven years. Would you agree with me that we should

00:25:51.760 abolish them forthwith? I, I don't care what the, uh, the British do or anybody else does, but we've 1.00

00:25:57.800 learned one thing. This doesn't work. And the temptation for corruption has been longstanding

00:26:02.780 by decades. Uh, and we are watching, uh, the country's destiny hang in the balance because of

00:26:10.480 the corruption of the department of justice, the FBI and the white house. Yeah. I always try not to

00:26:17.940 express opinions because I have to cover this stuff. I can tell you a lot of smart people

00:26:21.340 share your belief and concern really strongly. And, uh, and I think it's gaining momentum. I think

00:26:27.360 there are two things that are gaining momentum right now in Congress among the Republicans and

00:26:31.800 quite frankly, among some of the, uh, libertarians or libertarians. I think when you listen, uh, to the

00:26:38.260 former Congresswoman from Ohio ran for president a couple of years ago, Tulsi Gabbard, she's talking this

00:26:43.740 way too. Um, I think there are two things we're going to see a growing momentum for, uh, shrinking

00:26:50.300 the FBI, reforming it, changing it, closing it down, starting something new. I don't know where it

00:26:55.120 falls there, but there's momentum there. And the second thing is I think people are starting to get

00:26:58.920 really in love with the flat tax, the fair tax and get rid of the IRS. If everyone has to just know

00:27:03.860 what they pay out of the gate, forget everything else about it. The rich don't get to get rid of all of

00:27:08.120 their tax liabilities, the porter and the middle class and the working class know what they owe right out of the 0.97

00:27:12.480 that. Uh, and then you don't need an IRS with 87,000 agents, $80 billion in new revenue, millions

00:27:18.860 of audits. And of course the ammunition, I think a lot of people concerned about that. Those two

00:27:24.440 legislative ideas are gaining steam. I just talked to a Congressman literally just about 30, 40 minutes

00:27:29.800 ago who said, you know what? I wasn't for the fair tax. I am now. Uh, we've got too much abuse going

00:27:36.580 on in this country. So I think Lou, you're onto something. I think what you're thinking is what a lot of

00:27:40.840 people in Congress are now beginning to rally around. And next year, if there's a change of

00:27:45.500 power in Congress, you might see the first execution on those ideas. Well, if, if this Republican party,

00:27:52.800 this Congress permits 87,000 pistol toting IRS agents to be hired, uh, then we are doomed because

00:28:01.900 that means that our Congress, our senators, just as stupid as, uh, some of us have imagined them to be.

00:28:07.960 Uh, I, I don't need any more, uh, evidence, any more proof. Uh, please rest yourselves and fight

00:28:15.100 like hell against this Biden nightmare. Uh, so John, I want to turn to another thing. The,

00:28:21.020 the issue of the mole, this president has been plagued with, uh, human spies, apparently planted

00:28:27.820 at various points, or at least so the FBI has made us think. Is this a mole within his post

00:28:34.960 presidency, uh, cadre, uh, or is this the, uh, the information sharing between the secret service

00:28:43.100 and the FBI? What is your, your thinking? To be determined, I think, but, uh, when the first

00:28:48.640 report came about out of Newsweek, it said two things. One that, um, Attorney General Merrick Garland

00:28:55.660 was out of the loop. That did not seem possible to me at all, given how the Justice Department works

00:29:00.840 and that there are specific rules that say the Attorney General personally must approve it. So I

00:29:05.120 was suspect of the story, but the second angle in that story was there was a confidential human

00:29:09.680 source. That means someone like a Christopher Steele or, uh, uh, Stefan Halper, who we know from

00:29:15.060 Russia fame, was on the dole or under the control of the FBI informing for that. When I started to ask

00:29:20.840 about that, the first thing I was told is, well, the first part is definitely wrong. Uh, uh,

00:29:25.840 Merrick Garland approved this and that's a false story. And of course, Merrick Garland himself came

00:29:30.540 out a couple of days, but we were ahead of that by a couple of days. The second thing I was told

00:29:34.200 is, I think the term confidential human source is the wrong term. There might be a cooperating

00:29:39.500 witness who might've been available and helping. And let's just give one possible innocuous scenario

00:29:45.700 that takes it out of the drama thing. Uh, there was a woman that used to, uh, work for the 1.00

00:29:51.000 president, both in the white house and in, uh, the, uh, Mar-a-Lago. And she would be the sort of

00:29:56.320 person almost certainly based on her job description that the president said, you know, I'd love to get

00:30:01.380 those newspaper clips I had down in my storage locker about my speech in Europe. She would go

00:30:07.100 down almost certainly would be her job to go down, open up the locker, get the box that has the speech

00:30:11.760 documents in it and bring it back to the president. I think that's the sort of, and then, you know,

00:30:16.360 if she was hauled before the grand jury, which is entirely possible, that's the sort of question

00:30:20.360 that doesn't mean she was spying on the president just means that in a grand jury to the president

00:30:24.060 after ask you, I think it's far more innocuous. That's what I've been led to believe a secret

00:30:29.380 service agent could have made the same testimony. I don't get a sense that there's somebody that's

00:30:33.300 been with a listening glass on president Trump's door trying to figure out what he's doing, but

00:30:37.360 we'll have to wait and see what that affidavit. That's why that affidavit is so important to get

00:30:41.780 unsealed for America. I had, I have exactly the same impression you do. Uh, I even think I know who that

00:30:50.360 person might be sure. Uh, and I'm sure everyone else thinks they know exactly all of this, but

00:30:57.280 you know, Mike, I have my private and, uh, yeah, I think you're probably right. It's probably

00:31:01.800 something a lot less nefarious than what the media, one of the great things the media has done time

00:31:05.900 and again, it's irrefutable. They always, uh, uh, exaggerate about Donald Trump. And then how many

00:31:11.860 months later do we find out? Oh, that wasn't true. Lafayette park, a Russian, um, bounties on American 0.96

00:31:17.900 heads. All those things, which sounded great at the time, none of them turned out to be true. I

00:31:22.800 think we really have to take the mainstream media with far greater, uh, scrutiny and distrust than

00:31:28.460 we did 20 years ago. Yeah. I think we should be applying to the corporate media, all media in

00:31:34.000 point of fact, uh, the same skepticism that we should be applying to this government corrupt, uh, and,

00:31:41.680 and, uh, toxic as it has become, uh, there should be, they have a burden of proof to prove they have

00:31:48.920 any vestige of integrity. I have to say the fact that there are, uh, at least 14 whistleblowers who've

00:31:55.100 stepped forward from the justice department and the FBI, uh, it is sunshine, uh, in my being for it to

00:32:02.760 have occurred because at this point, after six years, I had given up that there would be, uh, this much

00:32:08.600 integrity left that people, that men and women in the FBI would step forward. Thank God some did,

00:32:13.940 uh, there's a vestige of faith, uh, in, in those two departments that I still, you know, still resides

00:32:20.860 within me. Uh, I, you know, at various points, I, I asked myself why, but, uh, it does, uh, let, let's,

00:32:29.500 I'd also like to get your sense, uh, on, uh, this, the idea that this president has lost his executive

00:32:39.600 privilege, his client attorney privilege, uh, is there any, any, anything that can bring him back

00:32:49.140 into balance, uh, restore the fourth amendment to the president, the former president of the United

00:32:55.080 States? Uh, what is, is there a cure here? It's a great question. And I think just like with Roe v.

00:33:03.220 Wade, the question that lingered for a half a century, we now know, I think at the end of the

00:33:07.400 day, these issues are going to probably end up back in the Supreme court, which case it is at what

00:33:11.980 moment does it come unclear? Uh, but I think you have to assume that the justice is looking on down

00:33:18.380 on America from the ivory tower. That is the Supreme court have to see fourth amendment issues, 0.95

00:33:24.480 have to see executive privilege issues. And the more we learn about, uh, the quality of the claims,

00:33:32.700 the quality of the assertions, the omissions from the warrant, the more likely it is that we're going

00:33:37.160 to see this get to the Supreme court. I'm actually surprised that some of the Russia collusion, um,

00:33:42.760 issues didn't get to the Supreme court. I think that was a missed opportunity for the president and

00:33:47.680 his defenders, but, um, certainly this search, which by the way, has consequences for all future

00:33:54.040 presidents. This isn't just about Donald Trump. I think something from this case eventually will

00:33:59.480 get into the court system and work its way to the Supreme court. We need to resolve, uh, the fourth

00:34:05.000 amendment executive privilege and attorney client privileges of the president so that those of us

00:34:09.800 who are mere mortals down below a president, uh, can know the protections that we still are supposed to

00:34:14.920 enjoy. And I think this becomes, uh, an epic case to, to really debate the state of the, uh, the, uh,

00:34:21.800 bill of rights in America. Well, and the sooner, the better. And in my opinion, uh, I want to

00:34:29.800 conclude on the news week reporting and how it, uh, was obviously the publication of choice here is a

00:34:38.360 little red, little known, uh, and, uh, publication with a horrific, uh, checkered, uh, background.

00:34:48.440 I'll put it that way. How is it? Does it make you suspicious that the FBI made that choice?

00:34:54.760 How is it that that choice seems almost the, the media, uh, analog to the legal choice of Bruce

00:35:02.600 Reinhardt, a magistrate instead of a, an article three judge, right? Being selected for a search

00:35:10.280 warrant and who now holds the power to, uh, to declassify, to reveal the warrant, uh, affidavit

00:35:21.640 that made the search possible. Those are great questions, Lou. And I don't know the answer again.

00:35:26.760 I often wonder when I, after doing interviews with legal experts, why the president hasn't already gone

00:35:32.680 in and asked for that judge to be removed. Now, why we, why could he do that? Because one year before

00:35:37.960 he became a judge in 2018 and 2017, he posted on social media, a clearly biased statement against

00:35:44.040 the president calling into question, uh, the president's moral character and saying it wasn't

00:35:48.920 nearly as equivalent as that of John Lewis, the late congressman and civil rights leader.

00:35:54.520 I'm surprised he hasn't been knocked out. I'm surprised they're letting him rule on these

00:35:58.040 decisions. Now they could easily have appealed to the district court saying, we think there's a bias

00:36:03.160 problem here. I wrote about this procedure. Again, I, uh, if as a journalist, just looking

00:36:08.520 neutrally at this, I think the president's legal team has been slow in plotting and there are many

00:36:13.320 things that could have already happened that lawyers are saying, I don't know why they haven't

00:36:16.120 done it yet. At some point, these issues have to get into a higher court than an appointed magistrate

00:36:22.120 with a long history of colorful and politically biased, uh, social media posting. I think that, uh,

00:36:28.200 I'm shocked and many of the people I talked to are shocked that that issue hasn't become more germane

00:36:34.040 to the legal battle right now. So I assume at some point it will be. John Solomon, we have run the

00:36:41.160 gamut and I appreciate your patience and your insight and as always your knowledge and wisdom.

00:36:48.040 Yeah. Honored to be on the show, Lou. You're a good friend and also one of the greatest journalists

00:36:52.280 in this country. So it's always an honor to have a conversation with you. Thanks so much,

00:36:56.280 John. And, uh, and same right back at you. I appreciate it. Thank you. John Solomon, uh,

00:37:02.360 the CEO, the founder, uh, the executive editor, and the, uh, the spirit, uh, that animates just

00:37:10.280 the news.com. God bless you. You as well, sir. Thank you. Thank you everybody for being with us as we

00:37:16.840 all live history in these incredibly challenging times, truth, justice, and the American way will

00:37:23.000 prevail. And all of us must do our part, including being at the polls on November 8th to vote,

00:37:29.240 to volunteer, to watch, to do our part. Thanks again. And here on the great America show tomorrow,

00:37:36.200 we'll be leading Republican pollster and strategist, John McLaughlin, to give us insights into the mood

00:37:42.200 of the American people. And in particular, how the November vote will go. Please join us here tomorrow.

00:37:48.920 Till then, God bless you, and God bless America.

The Great America Show - August 18, 2022

SOLOMON SAYS BIG GOVT IS A CONCERN FOR ALL AMERICANS, IT’S NOT TRUMP VS DEMS. IT’S ABOUT THE ESSENCE OF AMERICA, THE CONSTITUTION

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