The Great America Show - February 06, 2023


SOME OF THE MOST OUTLANDISH GEORGE SOROS CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE AT LEAST DIRECTIONALLY CORRECT SAYS AUTHOR MATT PALUMBO

Topics
Chinese weather balloon incident
Hosted by
Lou Dobbs John Fawcett
Guests
Wes Allen
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Alexander Soros Obama White House Joe Biden George Soros Matt Palumbo George Floyd Glenn Beck Austin Scott Steve Croft Karl Popper Roswell Hillary Clinton Rupert Murdoch Tony Blinken Newt Gingrich Tom Perriello Robert Malone Barack Obama Buddha Bibaraj Chase Abudin and 10 more
BIDEN BROKE THE LAW WHEN HE STOLE OBAMA’S CLASSIFIED PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS THE WHOLE CHINA BALLOON THING LOOKS LIKE A CLUSTER FANDANGO, A CHARLIE FOXTROT SAYS FORMER INTEL ANALYST RUSS TICE

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After a Chinese spy balloon was spotted over the United States, President Joe Biden ordered the military to shoot it down. The problem is, the military had no idea what to do with it, and no one else would have done it either. So what did they do?

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:04.500 We've had ourselves some week, haven't we?
00:00:07.160 And all because of a big old Chinese balloon floating across the United States. 0.89
00:00:13.040 As you listen to those news reports, you had to be as surprised as I was.
00:00:18.080 A spy balloon? Really?
00:00:20.720 Who uses balloons in the 21st century?
00:00:23.760 Didn't they go out with World War II and the London Blitz?
00:00:27.560 Well, no, they didn't.
00:00:28.880 In fact, the U.S. military used them in Afghanistan and Iraq for surveillance and intelligence.
00:00:35.540 And there was a time when we actually policed our southern border with Mexico,
00:00:40.080 and part of that effort was to secure the border,
00:00:43.120 and it included flying surveillance balloons over the border,
00:00:47.000 fighting illegal immigration in the Mexican cartels,
00:00:50.580 smuggling fentanyl and other deadly drugs and sex trafficking into the United States.
00:00:55.660 Now, no problem.
00:00:57.560 There's no interference from this pro-cartel Biden regime.
00:01:02.020 Some folks may have been thinking back to 1947,
00:01:05.480 when space aliens landed in Roswell, New Mexico.
00:01:09.360 At least those were the so-called initial reports.
00:01:13.000 But it turned out that the crashed UFO was only a downed high-altitude weather balloon.
00:01:19.300 At least, that was the government's story.
00:01:22.840 So when I heard that it was a Chinese weather balloon,
00:01:25.640 I thought maybe the government was resurrecting the old Roswell disinformation stratagem,
00:01:31.980 trying out a variation on the Roswell incident.
00:01:34.900 It worked so well.
00:01:36.440 Claiming the UFO was a weather balloon again.
00:01:39.240 But really, what we had was, here come the aliens.
00:01:43.660 No, I'm just kidding, friends.
00:01:45.580 No aliens.
00:01:46.740 Just the Chinese testing U.S. defenses and the Pentagon's decision-making,
00:01:51.660 and in so doing, making laughing stocks out of the bunch of them,
00:01:55.460 along with the impaired commander-in-chief, of course.
00:01:59.120 Neither the generals nor China Joe Biden passed any of the tests.
00:02:03.560 Slow-witted, few options,
00:02:05.460 no ingenious and clever national defense response.
00:02:08.780 No.
00:02:09.980 Instead, along that week-long balloon passage over top-secret missile defense systems,
00:02:15.940 Air Force bases, and critical infrastructure,
00:02:19.120 General Milley and puppet President China Joe Biden
00:02:22.460 employed the old,
00:02:24.080 maybe-it'll-just-go-away-and-no-one-will-notice strategy.
00:02:27.920 That didn't work when everybody in Montana with an iPhone or whatever
00:02:32.040 started taking pictures of that balloon floating by at an altitude of about 11 miles up.
00:02:38.300 Some nice pictures, by the way.
00:02:41.120 But there went the Biden-Milley see-nothing-say-nothing strategy.
00:02:45.880 And the Biden-tough-guy act looked like an act.
00:02:49.420 First reports in the New York Times that Biden chose not to shoot it down,
00:02:53.940 then that he ordered the military to shoot it down,
00:02:56.860 but the generals decided, wait,
00:02:58.820 just wait a few days to execute the president's order,
00:03:01.520 and we'll shoot it down off the coast of South Carolina.
00:03:05.340 Some president, right?
00:03:07.240 First reports were they would use 20-millimeter cannon fire on the balloon.
00:03:11.840 That would make smaller holes.
00:03:13.960 That would let less helium out of the balloon.
00:03:17.320 And that made a lot of sense to keep the balloon more intact.
00:03:20.740 It would make for a slower descent for the surveillance gear
00:03:23.660 and arrays that were the payload beneath the balloon.
00:03:26.700 So what did they do?
00:03:28.960 Somehow, what occurred was quite different.
00:03:32.220 It was almost as if the Pentagon decided they or someone else didn't want a slow descent,
00:03:38.180 didn't want to capture the payload as undamaged as possible for some reason.
00:03:43.180 And so, off the Carolina coast, an F-22 pilot fired a Sidewinder missile from 58,000 feet up
00:03:51.880 and hit his target, which thereby created a huge debris field,
00:03:56.820 a seven-mile area in water 47 feet deep, making for quite a search effort,
00:04:03.320 especially with Navy salvage ships still several days away from the recovery area.
00:04:10.460 You say this doesn't make sense.
00:04:12.140 To watch as the surveillance balloon traversed the United States for a full week.
00:04:17.280 That the military could have shot it down in lots of remote areas,
00:04:21.100 and with a week to react, didn't think to have salvage ships and crews on station.
00:04:26.880 And you're right.
00:04:28.160 It's clear to me, at least, that the military and the White House
00:04:31.260 would never have said a word if civilians hadn't spotted it.
00:04:35.340 That China Joe Biden didn't want to shoot it down, 0.99
00:04:38.120 and the military didn't have many options about what to do.
00:04:42.620 Shooting a balloon down with a missile, are you kidding me?
00:04:45.780 Was that really the best way to preserve surveillance gear
00:04:48.880 and to raise the best way for the gear to survive the downing?
00:04:53.600 And then there's the rest of the official narrative,
00:04:56.060 including the President's and the Pentagon's super hyperbolic kudos
00:04:59.720 to the pilot of the world's most advanced fighter jet, the F-22,
00:05:03.540 for firing a missile at what can only be described as a defenseless,
00:05:08.280 slow-moving, cargo-laden surveillance balloon.
00:05:11.700 Would the pilot be equally regaled if he had blown up a few semi-trucks
00:05:15.840 abandoned in the desert?
00:05:17.340 What's that all about?
00:05:18.560 Are they going to make him like an ace of surveillance balloons?
00:05:21.980 And what's the deal with General Pat Ryder,
00:05:25.380 a little Pentagon spokesman attitude from the General,
00:05:28.660 when he brushed aside a reporter's question on the public's right to know
00:05:32.100 where that China balloon was at the moment,
00:05:35.180 saying, quote,
00:05:35.940 The public certainly has the ability to look up in the sky
00:05:39.180 and see where the balloon is.
00:05:41.760 Whoa, General, you may not have noticed,
00:05:44.060 but most Americans aren't too thrilled with our government of late
00:05:46.980 lying to us day in and day out,
00:05:49.700 and just a little more arrogance from the Biden propaganda unit
00:05:53.680 isn't particularly helpful.
00:05:55.560 Or is it?
00:05:56.520 We'll see.
00:05:57.500 When it comes to disinformation and propaganda,
00:06:00.060 no one does it any better or in any greater volume than the Biden White House.
00:06:04.360 Running campaigns of misinformation and disinformation
00:06:08.020 and psychological operations against the American people almost nonstop,
00:06:13.900 not only trying to manage the news and create political outcomes of all sorts,
00:06:18.500 including elections, of course.
00:06:20.540 The dominant question is, who's really driving the White House agenda?
00:06:24.880 Most say it can't be the president himself.
00:06:27.340 He's often simply unintelligible.
00:06:29.960 He can't find his ways across a stage and can barely walk.
00:06:34.400 He's only at the White House a few days a week,
00:06:37.060 at his vacation homes more than half the week.
00:06:39.920 Some say a Marxist-dim cabal is actually running the Biden regime.
00:06:44.480 Some claim it's Barack Obama and his former top officials from his administration,
00:06:50.040 and many others truly believe that multi-billionaire George Soros
00:06:54.340 is the man pulling all the strings,
00:06:56.940 who has insinuated his radical Marxist policies
00:07:00.360 into not only the White House, but every part of the federal government.
00:07:03.860 Soros is, after all, the biggest donor to the Democrats.
00:07:08.060 He's the man whose influence has made him the Republicans' evil avatar
00:07:12.600 for the Marxist-dims and their mad anti-American policies.
00:07:17.720 Soros' billions have bought not only influence on Wall Street and corporate America,
00:07:22.640 but true power over our government.
00:07:25.520 Our guest today is author Matt Palumbo.
00:07:27.820 Matt has written the essential Soros book,
00:07:31.820 entitled The Man Behind the Curtain, Inside the Secret Network of George Soros.
00:07:37.900 Matt is not only a prolific writer, but also content director for the Bongino Report.
00:07:43.380 Matt, great to have you with us.
00:07:44.880 Congratulations on the resurgence of your book a year after publication,
00:07:49.940 atop the Amazon charts once again.
00:07:52.980 A rare feat.
00:07:54.440 How does it feel?
00:07:55.920 Yeah, it's been a very pleasant surprise.
00:07:57.740 You know, the book, you know, if you have some tears already,
00:08:00.800 The Man Behind the Curtain, Inside the Secret Network of George Soros,
00:08:04.220 came out back in 20, geez, 2022.
00:08:07.840 So it's been just over a full year.
00:08:09.820 And, you know, it did well the first, you know, two to three months.
00:08:12.900 And that's how most books go.
00:08:14.440 You get a month of life and then it treads water.
00:08:17.340 And we were just sort of, you know, treading water for the past couple of months
00:08:20.980 or, you know, actually, unfortunately, a better half of a year.
00:08:23.840 And then out of nowhere, the Epoch Times publishes a full interview they did with me
00:08:29.120 about a year ago.
00:08:30.960 And that starts blowing up.
00:08:32.160 And then I get a call from the New York Post.
00:08:34.060 And they kind of wanted a five-part series based on the book.
00:08:37.420 So I was just sort of taking the best parts of every chapter and making it article format.
00:08:42.020 And, you know, I woke up to a very pleasant surprise after submitting them.
00:08:46.240 They didn't tell me they were going to make it the cover story and advertise then that,
00:08:50.540 you know, stay tuned the whole week.
00:08:51.800 But I wake up to all these text messages of, oh, my God,
00:08:54.580 I can't believe you're on the cover of the Post from people I didn't even know read the Post.
00:08:58.220 So it was a very nice surprise.
00:09:00.100 And then Fox started having me on.
00:09:02.000 And, you know, as you recall on Fox, even I think it was post-election,
00:09:06.420 Newt Gingrich brought up some of the Soros DAs and got shut down.
00:09:10.700 And they just had me on, I think, five or six times to talk about them.
00:09:13.680 So there was some change there, which is obviously for the better.
00:09:16.540 And I'm glad it's finally getting the attention that I think it deserves.
00:09:19.580 Yeah, there's been obviously a sea change at Fox on the issue of George Soros
00:09:25.760 and on the part of Rupert Murdoch, obviously.
00:09:29.540 The Murdochs owning, of course, the New York Post as well as Fox.
00:09:33.020 I noticed, actually, it's funny.
00:09:34.620 If you go on the videos on YouTube of my recent appearances and I was just there,
00:09:38.800 there are a bunch of bring back Lou Dobbs comments that are all thumbed up.
00:09:42.120 So we've got a lot of supporters there.
00:09:44.640 Well, I appreciate that.
00:09:46.480 Thanks, everybody, for those thumbs up.
00:09:49.060 And I want to turn to George Soros.
00:09:52.180 It's strange to even be laughing when his name is mentioned.
00:09:55.900 And to the point, there was a time at Fox where people were blackballed as guests or contributors
00:10:04.520 for even mentioning his name.
00:10:07.580 That's how serious it was.
00:10:10.000 And I think the fact that you're reporting on this extensively, written your book,
00:10:16.220 it is really a question that I have at the forefront of my mind is, is this really the ebb tide for George Soros?
00:10:28.160 Because there was a time when literally whispering his name on air created convulsions throughout news organizations.
00:10:37.160 That's obviously dissipated.
00:10:39.760 Your thoughts?
00:10:40.580 I mean, it's weird because I feel like it actually is happening.
00:10:44.200 But the question of why is unanswered.
00:10:47.080 Because, I mean, there was on Fox, there was different eras where I think Glenn Beck back in 2010 very extensively covered him
00:10:54.040 and even went through that.
00:10:55.620 We'll probably talk about it in the interview, the infamous Nazi 60 Minutes interview.
00:10:59.580 Beck covered all of that and didn't really have any problems.
00:11:02.300 I mean, I know Soros attacked him.
00:11:04.020 Actually, Beck told me Soros went after him and sent, you know, had people make harassing phone calls.
00:11:08.180 But Fox was all right with that.
00:11:09.620 And I guess there was that period with, you know, the aforementioned Faulkner-Gingrich thing.
00:11:13.600 And now we're coming back.
00:11:14.760 So I'm not really sure what the change is.
00:11:18.220 But the one thing we should keep in mind is, you know, Soros is 92 years old.
00:11:22.020 So he, I mean, I look at the stats, he's probably statistically got three or four years of life left.
00:11:27.380 So it's going to be, the tide is finally turning.
00:11:30.100 But now we've got to look at the next guy, and that's Alexander Soros.
00:11:32.900 And he's sort of, you know, a Soros ambassador for Soros.
00:11:36.520 You go on the guy's Instagram page, and it is a who's who of famous Democrats, pundits, etc.
00:11:43.380 And it seems like he is really being primed to take over the empire.
00:11:47.120 In fact, he's already on the board of the Open Society Foundations.
00:11:50.140 He's on the board of Central European University, which is a college that his father started.
00:11:53.960 So he's really the most ingrained in his father's network, and is just really all over the world in these little places like, you know, the Balkans meddling and stuff out of nowhere. 0.57
00:12:03.140 So I think a lot of the Soros' work has sort of been outsourced to his children at this point, though it's obviously impossible for me to prove.
00:12:11.520 But it does seem like, or actually, I'll just step back a second, too.
00:12:15.900 Another point I make in the book is Soros was responsible for what is, I mean, it is technically the greatest charitable contribution of all time.
00:12:24.620 But there's obviously quotation marks among charitable.
00:12:27.480 Basically, he just took billions of dollars of his own money.
00:12:30.160 I think it was, I have the exact number in the book, around $20 billion, donated it to his own foundation.
00:12:34.680 So he paid no capital gains tax on the stock he donated, then gets to write off, you know, the donation against his personal income.
00:12:42.480 But then also his foundation has all these billions.
00:12:45.220 And the amount he donated, I found it was comparable to what it spent since its inception, which only tells you if you're donating that much money this late in life, well, clearly you think it's going to live on beyond you.
00:12:56.900 He's very much positioning his organization to do that.
00:12:59.280 Yeah, I wouldn't count him out here, because I get an image of him as, you know, the cinematic evil multi-billionaire.
00:13:10.560 He's probably putting together the secrets to 200 years and wiring himself up to every tube and electrode there is to gain another 50, 60 years.
00:13:22.980 Who knows?
00:13:23.500 Yeah, from beyond the grave.
00:13:24.400 And the thing too about his influence that I make, a point that I make is like, I mean, yes, he has direct influence and they can call and email politicians and get what he wants.
00:13:33.920 But there's also sort of the implied contract in that when you give an organization billions of dollars or millions of dollars even, especially if it's a media organization, Soros doesn't have to tell them, hey, FYI, you know, don't cover anything negative about me.
00:13:49.360 You know, they already, well, they already know that.
00:13:52.740 And all these groups he's funding now while he's alive, presumably are going to still get funded after his death and are going to have the same from beyond the grave influence he had beforehand.
00:14:02.760 Well, let me ask you this.
00:14:06.360 Is there anything that was so volatile, so dark that you decided not to include that in your book and your reporting?
00:14:17.460 No, no, no, I put everything I could.
00:14:20.400 The only thing I would exclude was if I just thought it was like esoteric and boring.
00:14:25.700 But that's really it.
00:14:27.240 No, I mean, I think the most damning story I put and part of the motivation to write the book was, you know, sort of as a peripheral figure, I knew he was a bad guy.
00:14:38.160 I knew he was funding liberal, you know, policies.
00:14:40.580 And really, in any comment section, you see someone blaming whatever liberal thing going on on Soros.
00:14:45.980 And I had come across things I knew were true.
00:14:49.040 I had come across things that I thought were hyperbole.
00:14:51.140 And I kind of started to realize, like, even the most outlandish sounding conspiracy theories were sort of directionally correct.
00:15:00.820 So when someone says, you know, in the comment section, Soros was a Nazi who worked for Hitler, that's not literally true.
00:15:07.540 But it is true when he was a teenager, the Nazis occupied Hungary.
00:15:12.020 He was given a job by them to hand out deportation notices and summons to Jewish families.
00:15:16.980 And he went along happily with it.
00:15:18.620 And, you know, if you and I were put in that situation, obviously, there's the whole gun to your head element.
00:15:24.420 But Soros was very famously or infamously asked about this during a 60-minute interview with Steve Croft.
00:15:30.000 And Croft tries to give him the exact out I just said of the, OK, but obviously, there's a gun to your head. 0.94
00:15:36.100 These are evil people.
00:15:37.160 You do what you have to do.
00:15:38.520 And rather than say, well, of course, and I feel horrible, Soros' response was, well, no, I did it because I had to.
00:15:45.140 And if I didn't, someone else would have.
00:15:47.020 There was no remorse at all. 0.56
00:15:48.400 Now, in the book, I document all these cases from Soros' writing where he sort of is self-aware that he is narcissistic and sociopathic.
00:15:57.400 But this is one of those cases where the, you know, crack in the facade has been revealed.
00:16:02.640 And he actually has tried to walk it back.
00:16:04.760 And if you look for sort of a mainstream media, like outside of conservative media, opinion on this interview, they try to spin it in his favor.
00:16:12.520 And they'll say it's misquoted.
00:16:14.260 And so, you know, of course, in the book, I have to disprove that.
00:16:16.780 So I have the full transcript.
00:16:18.580 But sort of the smoking gun in that encounter or in proving that the narrative he gave in 60 minutes of feeling no remorse is true is Soros' father penned an autobiography.
00:16:28.640 And in it, he talks about his son George's upbringing and talks about that exact incident and recalls it as a job his son enjoyed doing.
00:16:36.540 Another thing about Soros, too, during the Nazi occupation, his father, he had what he called his protector.
00:16:44.080 His father assigned someone with him for George to live with.
00:16:48.020 Soros has never in his life named who this person was, who presumably saved his life by saving him from the Nazis.
00:16:54.220 And we didn't even find out his name until the Daily Mail revealed it many years after his death.
00:16:59.140 So that's just the kind of guy Soros is.
00:17:01.460 And you can take a hyperbolic claim of Soros as a Nazi and a fat cooker could say it's objectively true.
00:17:07.800 But you go through the rabbit hole and it's really not much better.
00:17:11.740 So that's just kind of a point I make is even the hyperbole, you go down that and it's a rabbit hole that leads you to something not equally disturbing, but pretty disturbing, I'd say.
00:17:20.460 There's a lot about George Soros that is disturbing in his politics, his ideology, and his capacity, his awesome capacity through his billions of dollars to influence change on one level or to manipulate the entire political system, it seems, with all of that vast wealth that he possesses.
00:17:44.280 As you say, the Open Society Foundation, $18 billion there, he's been funding it for years, they are involved in everything from illegal immigration to the election, as you document so terrifically.
00:18:04.060 D.A.'s that are progressive beyond Marxist in terms of their approach to law enforcement, law and, if you will, punishment.
00:18:16.560 Your thoughts on that part of his character and his enterprise and his motivation?
00:18:24.480 Right.
00:18:24.740 So when it comes to the motives, you know, I think that's just what proves it's evil.
00:18:29.020 Because, you know, there's a lot of political discussion.
00:18:32.280 Like, if we were to debate an issue like, I don't know, should we fund a local library more?
00:18:37.780 You know, it's not really a moral issue.
00:18:39.920 It's a question of, okay, here's the pros and cons, and we can have an honest and open debate.
00:18:43.860 When it comes to things like the, you know, the DAs, there's just, there's no counterargument.
00:18:49.340 You know, I've gone through all the data, and in every single one of these cities that is a Soros-backed DA, crime goes up.
00:18:55.540 And even if it's in a year where crime went up nationally, it goes up more in those cities.
00:19:00.840 And they will try to spin it by saying, if they try to spin it at all by saying, like, well, we're focusing too much on, you know, enforcing laws against graffiti and parking tickets.
00:19:11.120 Why aren't we fighting murder and rape?
00:19:13.040 And, you know, if that was a legal theory of, hey, we'll stop enforcing lower-level things to focus on higher-level things, that's not happening.
00:19:20.760 Because there's not one of these cities, one of these DAs who says they're going to do that that actually does it.
00:19:25.340 What they do is they stop enforcing lower-level crimes and higher-level crimes.
00:19:29.620 In fact, one of the women who I talked about in one of the Post articles, Buda Bibaraj, she's the Commonwealth attorney for Luton County. 0.59
00:19:38.100 And she recently came out with these various policies she wasn't going to enforce and used the exact line of, you know, why enforce speeding tickets when we can go after, you know, sexual assault victims. 1.00
00:19:48.620 And the irony is she, under her tenure, her first year in office, dismissed 92% of sexual assault cases.
00:19:55.600 And her office actually got reduced funding because she wasn't doing enough to fight them.
00:19:59.660 So, you know, she had the funding and lost it because she wasn't enforcing the law and then is going to enforce the law less to claim she's going to enforce the law that she just lost funding for not enforcing, which is, I know, a mouthful.
00:20:11.900 But these are the people we're dealing with.
00:20:13.500 And in the chapter in the book, it's – I just sort of give a rundown of here's who they are, here's how much – you know, here's the public statements that they were making, which I think are relevant because it shows what attracts Soros.
00:20:24.260 And they are people who are clearly so insane that Soros wouldn't even have to tell them what to do.
00:20:29.580 You can just tell by their philosophy that, you know, they talk about criminals in a way where criminals are the only true victims, that if you commit a crime, certainly there must have been something in your life where something went wrong or society in some way failed you.
00:20:42.900 And it is a philosophy that just generates more criminals over and over and over, and we're seeing that in quite literally every Soros-backed city.
00:20:49.960 The only data point in their favor is – and this is sort of another irony – is there are some Soros-backed – cities where there are Soros-backed DAs where crimes like shoplifting are going down.
00:21:02.300 Yet we – you know, on paper, yet we see a record number of stores closing doing the shoplifting.
00:21:08.440 We see the cost to insure these businesses going up.
00:21:11.460 So how is that possible?
00:21:12.600 Well, it was the case under Chase Abudin.
00:21:14.880 If you steal less than I think it was $1,000 or so, you don't get charged.
00:21:18.900 So if you're a business owner and someone takes $500, if you call the police to report it, you're just costing yourself a half hour of time because nothing's going to happen.
00:21:28.000 So there are certain crimes that have effectively been legalized, and now that they're effectively legalized, they're not getting reported as crimes.
00:21:35.220 And that appears to be a data point in their favor, but it's just a statistical illusion, and every other data point is going in the other direction.
00:21:41.520 And I guess one last point on this.
00:21:43.580 You know, the lack of enforcement, especially in the post-George Floyd era, it even goes to things like speeding tickets and pulling people over for speeding.
00:21:52.240 And there's been a statistically significant rise in auto fatalities for African-Americans relative to the rest of the population because cops actually stopped going after them as much in the wake of the George Floyd death.
00:22:04.980 So we're just all across the board in every conceivable way you can imagine seeing a decline in enforcement.
00:22:11.380 And the biggest victims are the people that progressives claim those policies will help.
00:22:14.860 And you write about the fact he is the most dangerous – you write about him being the most dangerous man in America.
00:22:27.720 How do you think that's expressed?
00:22:31.440 Well, it's just what – you know, what are America's interests?
00:22:34.640 What are our founding interests?
00:22:35.920 What is it that makes this country great?
00:22:38.060 And what is it that Soros funds?
00:22:39.540 It is everything to the exact opposite.
00:22:41.440 It is – you know, it's hard to articulate, but it is just every single thing he funds seems to have the goal of fracturing society.
00:22:48.980 And, you know, we see it in promoting illegal immigration.
00:22:52.020 I mean, we always – we know that there are – you know, the costs of illegal immigration fiscally is in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:22:58.820 But, you know, if that were the only cost, you know, at least, you know, it's in the context of a $30 trillion economy.
00:23:04.440 I mean, the other big cost is, A, you know, we can't keep track of them when it comes to crime and disease.
00:23:11.400 But then, in my opinion, the biggest problem is it fractures society.
00:23:15.220 If you have these clusters within our cities or wherever, people don't speak the language.
00:23:19.900 They don't know anything about our history.
00:23:21.620 They have nothing in common culturally.
00:23:23.740 And society is just sort of naturally fractured then.
00:23:26.020 You know, people are far less likely to participate in their communities when they become diverse in that specific way. 0.99
00:23:30.960 They're less likely to get to charity or even just do little niceties.
00:23:35.140 So it is – Soros is funding every possible thing that could break down society in that regard.
00:23:39.460 Well, one of the things that he funds is Arabella, the dark money group, connected as well to the 1630 fund to the – I mean – and the web just goes from there.
00:23:52.000 As you talk about – and the man behind the curtain inside the secret network of George Soros, that is the heart of the secret network.
00:24:03.580 Let's turn to that issue.
00:24:06.260 Tom Perriello, for example, going to the Obama White House, the Biden White House, he has been – he should have frequent visitor miles for his visits to the Biden White House.
00:24:20.880 His influence, his impact.
00:24:24.460 Yeah, well, he's just one of many people.
00:24:26.720 And, you know, this news broke recently, but there's been – it's been sort of a long time – or, you know, this is the latest edition, I should say.
00:24:33.280 You know, in the book, I documented that even in the days following the presidential election, when he set up his transition team, and, you know, you have one transition team for each government agency or department,
00:24:43.660 there were 17 people who worked for or headed those transition teams that were linked to Soros in some way, either working for a Soros-back group or one that he founded.
00:24:53.660 And then even you go into the White House, we have Antony Blinken, whose parents have worked with Soros.
00:24:58.840 There's actually an archive at Central European University named after his parents.
00:25:03.500 You have Ron Klain, the outgoing chief of staff, and you have Neera Tanden as well, another higher up.
00:25:08.320 And those two were connected through the Center for American Progress, which is also connected to the Clintons.
00:25:13.340 But it is – you know, I can't prove these two things are linked, but a point I've sort of been making recently is it is interesting to see that Biden,
00:25:23.180 who's obviously always been a man of the left, has pivoted so much further to the left in just the past five years, where I think he was to the right of Obama slightly.
00:25:32.480 I mean, I don't know how I'd prove that, but my impression was that he was slightly to the right of Obama, which isn't very right-wing at all.
00:25:39.400 But is now – I mean, whatever a fashionable progressive idea is to a 22-year-old is something that Biden will adopt.
00:25:48.660 You know, even something like the – you know, someone like him adopting this sort of transgender platform would have been unthinkable five years ago. 1.00
00:25:55.400 So, and I think it's – and it's not just Soros, but it's – he's clearly surrounded by people in his sphere and a lot of hyper-progressives,
00:26:02.260 and he seems to be sort of losing it mentally, to put it mildly.
00:26:05.280 And naturally speaking, they're going to have disproportionate influence on him.
00:26:09.420 The – you know, I think I said in the New York Post piece, you know, it's finally a White House he can control because, you know,
00:26:16.060 he's been known to donate to our elections, whether it be tens of millions of Hillary Clinton or John Kerry.
00:26:21.760 But for us, fortunately, he just kind of lit that money on fire.
00:26:25.340 With Biden, he really does seem to be getting results.
00:26:28.600 And if not even policy-wise, he clearly – Biden's ideology has clearly shifted far to the left.
00:26:35.040 As far to the left as one could have – farther left than anyone could have imagined just years ago.
00:26:42.120 And the relationship with Obama, because Obama, it is generally felt, I believe, by many politicos, has a significant influence on this administration as well.
00:26:56.580 What is the relationship between Obama and George Soros?
00:27:01.180 So it was – and I don't mean to – I don't know if this portrays Obama in a sympathetic light or not.
00:27:08.180 It can go either way.
00:27:09.480 Basically, Obama took a bunch of money from him and then cut off contact with him.
00:27:14.960 So that's sort of the short version.
00:27:16.920 Soros has been in Obama's sphere I think it was since 2004, back in his Senate days.
00:27:21.820 Had donated millions over the years.
00:27:23.680 Soros, and I mean, to be fair, we only have Soros' account of this, but there was a New Yorker interview where he very much complains that he gave Obama all this money and then was shut out.
00:27:33.700 And I think he said, like, I had a phone call with Obama that I wanted to last three minutes, but it lasted – I was able to stretch it to eight.
00:27:40.960 Now, I don't mean to portray Obama in a positive light as someone who got one over on Soros.
00:27:46.440 Obviously, he still took the guy's money.
00:27:47.840 I was mildly amused by the story.
00:27:50.520 But, of course, Soros – or Obama is – his agenda is still in line with Soros.
00:27:54.780 He's a man of the left, and I can't think of particularly a good thing the guy has done.
00:27:59.020 So that was sort of their relationship, or last year maybe.
00:28:02.700 I found the vignette, if you will, fascinating because of what it did say.
00:28:07.400 And it's the only self-effacing comment I recall ever reading by George Soros.
00:28:18.580 And I thought it was almost – I've got to be careful here – but almost charming for him to acknowledge it.
00:28:25.780 That's the thing.
00:28:26.440 Basically, what he's saying is I tried to buy influence, and he said no, which it's almost – you know, you've got to hand it to Obama.
00:28:34.160 But from Obama's perspective, it's just I'm going to take a bunch of money and push liberal policies even if it's not exactly what Soros wants.
00:28:40.580 So it's not that redeeming, although it is mildly amusing.
00:28:43.320 Yeah, exactly, exactly.
00:28:45.840 And what isn't amusing is the impact that he's had on prosecutors with his NGOs and not-for-profits.
00:28:54.960 It really spells out.
00:28:58.700 George Soros is a classic case that everyone should study, in my opinion, in political science because it shows the real danger of what we have done in this country with not-for-profits, non-governmental organizations who have outsized power.
00:29:18.040 They are competing against government, certainly local and state government, and winning whenever they come up against them.
00:29:26.780 They've also had significant impact on law itself, whether it's – on the conservative side, it's United Citizens.
00:29:35.420 Without that non-profit, there would have not been that decision by, in my opinion, the Supreme Court.
00:29:44.680 These NGOs and non-profits are very dangerous to this republic and our government, in my opinion.
00:29:53.560 And they're especially toxic or dangerous in the third world because, you know, when there are countries that have unstable governments, the NGOs become the de facto government.
00:30:04.900 They provide social services, education, et cetera.
00:30:07.360 And in countries like the Balkan countries, that was – I spoke to some politicians there in researching the book, and, you know, I call it sort of the Pablo Escobar model where, you know, he was a famous drug lord but also would curry favor by building schools and hospitals to escape public opinion.
00:30:23.240 Soros sort of does the same thing in poorer countries where, you know, from their perspective, if you're a poor person, the only thing you know about Soros is he's given me free stuff and no one else is.
00:30:34.040 So they don't know all the back story, and the politicians there who can't provide for their citizens are at least grateful that someone's able to fill the gap.
00:30:43.860 So they're very susceptible to corruption from Soros.
00:30:46.620 So that's how he's able to buy influence, especially in those countries, though as we see in America, it's, you know, more through direct lobbying.
00:30:53.480 But he's – I guess it's easier in those countries for him.
00:30:57.480 How would you describe his politics?
00:31:00.500 We know he's a Democrat.
00:31:01.940 He's the largest donor to the Democrat Party.
00:31:06.080 But his – there's no articulation that I have been able to find of his philosophy, his ideology, anything expansive to understand better his motivation in all of this, his societal and political motivation.
00:31:24.740 So admittedly, it's confusing to me because he describes it as being for what he calls an open society.
00:31:32.300 It's a concept from a philosopher called Karl Popper who he studied under at the London School of Economics.
00:31:37.080 And when you read what it purports to believe on paper about freedom and liberty, it appears to be a libertarian, which clearly is not what he believes.
00:31:46.400 So I don't know if it's a window dressing or what.
00:31:49.760 But he views America, and he has written that he views America as sort of the antithesis of one or at least needs great reforms.
00:31:56.480 Meanwhile, his mentor, Karl Popper, said he believes America to be the embodiment of what an open society is.
00:32:03.260 So even his mentor who created this concept seems to view our country as being exactly what he wants.
00:32:09.500 Soros seems to interpret it differently.
00:32:11.380 So I don't know what explains that gap if Soros is either misinterpreting it or misrepresenting it.
00:32:17.200 But I would just say it's hyper-progressivism.
00:32:20.020 It is much like with Biden.
00:32:21.880 Whatever the fashionable views of a college-age progressive is pretty much what Soros is in line with, which is just very odd for some of his age in particular.
00:32:32.960 And one thing I noticed is when it comes to the type of propaganda he funds, if you were to go back in history and look at Soviet propaganda against America back in the 60s, 50s,
00:32:45.140 it's very common to leftist propaganda today.
00:32:48.740 So it's focusing on things like health care costing too much or being unfair that you have to pay for it, gun violence, and exaggerating racism.
00:32:56.740 And state-funded outlets like Al Jazeera, which is by Qatar, today focus on those exact same issues to attack America.
00:33:04.300 And clearly the reason they focus on those issues is because they think advertising those issues in America will fracture our society, will hurt us.
00:33:12.380 They're not telling us these things to help us.
00:33:14.140 Why do I bring that up?
00:33:15.700 Because that's exactly the type of narratives that Soros is providing.
00:33:19.480 And it is, again, it is never with the purpose of, and here's what we need to do to get better.
00:33:24.500 It's just to demonize the country and push it towards some sort of progressive idea.
00:33:28.780 Yeah, it's almost the work of an anarchist because it doesn't have at its bedrock a philosophy and ideology that makes any sense at all.
00:33:39.560 The closest I think I come to understanding the man's motivation is he grows up under Nazi totalitarianism.
00:33:52.760 He is exposed to Soviet totalitarianism, and he has made a choice.
00:34:00.000 He chose the Soviet totalitarianism, communism.
00:34:04.220 That is the inferred ideology because the evidence of what he supports, what he seems motivated to create in this society is anti-American.
00:34:19.500 It's anti-capitalist.
00:34:21.040 And here is one of the most successful capitalists in all the world.
00:34:25.420 He's a man of conflicts and some perversity, I think.
00:34:29.200 I was going to say, in the book, I point out that if you compare hedge fund returns, in terms of what a dollar investor from inception would be worth today, I think he's second in world history after Ray Dalio.
00:34:41.720 So he's made a lot of money.
00:34:42.900 But the thing with Soros is there are the questions of how much of that is illegitimate.
00:34:47.580 There was only two insider trading cases I can link to him in the book.
00:34:50.920 But, you know, and I should probably do a follow-up trying to dig into that because, you know, I would imagine if we really digged through every single trade he's ever made, you could probably correlate it with politics.
00:35:01.760 Maybe that will be the next project I work on.
00:35:04.400 Well, there is a cynical saw that goes, behind every great fortune is a great crime.
00:35:13.320 So you could use that as your working starting point.
00:35:18.140 The book is fascinating.
00:35:21.560 You're terrific.
00:35:23.220 I enjoy talking with you.
00:35:24.780 Invite you back any time you want.
00:35:27.320 We will.
00:35:27.620 Excellent.
00:35:29.220 We love everything that you've unearthed here about Mr. Soros.
00:35:33.740 And we'll remind you all the book is The Man Behind the Curtain Inside the Secret Network of George Soros.
00:35:41.260 Matt Palumbo, I recommend his book to you, The Man Behind the Curtain.
00:35:44.920 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today.
00:35:46.720 Tomorrow here on The Great America Show, we'll have one of the Republican Party's standouts and leaders in the House, Congressman Austin Scott, on the path forward for the Republican-led 118th Congress, the Biden investigation, and how long has Biden been taking classified material from Senate and vice presidential offices.
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00:36:24.840 We'll also be joined by Wes Allen, Alabama's secretary of state, who has withdrawn Alabama from the controversial voter registration database, Eric.
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