SOTUS drops BOMBSHELL order as democrats are at war with themselves
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Supreme Court over the weekend blocked for now the deportation of any Venezuelan nationals held in northern Texas under the 18th century wartime law. Now in a brief order, the Supreme Court dissented President Trump's administration not to remove any venezuelans that are held in the Bluebonnet detention center under further notice of this court order, with Justice Clarence Thomas and Samueluel Alito dissenting to that opinion.
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hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us on this fine
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monday in america i hope you all had a wonderful easter with your family and your loved ones
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now let's get back to work right supreme court over the weekend uh sending us into an eventful
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easter sunday the supreme court on saturday blocked for now the deportation of any venezuelans
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held in northern texas under the 18th century wartime law now in a brief order the court
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dissented trump's administration not to remove any venezuelans that are held in the blue bonnet
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detention center under further notice of this court order justice clarus thomas and samuel alito
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dissenting to that opinion um it's unbelievable where the supreme court uh has gone alito in his
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dissenting opinion wrote quote in a sum literally in the middle of the night the court issued
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unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule
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without hearing from the opposing party within eight hours of receiving this application with
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the dubious factual support for its order without providing any explanation for its order i refuse to
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join the court's order because we have no good reason to think that under the circumstances
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issuing an order at midnight was necessary or appropriate now this is the the the court order from the aclu so
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alito understands that the aclu is leapfrogging to lower courts to get a supreme court injunction it's what
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they always do uh he believes that he and and justice clarence thomas uh two of the only uh true americans
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i should say on that court on this order i mean a disgrace he understands that based on the wrong
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application of existing law uh for this the aclu is notorious for doing this um he acknowledges that
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there is uh no allowance of hearing from the opposition party which would be the trump administration
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and he also acknowledges that it was done in the middle of the night with under eight hours notice
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um all but acknowledging that this is how a banana republic uh is run it it's truly truly remarkable
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now as i said uh the high court the supreme court um acting in emergency appeal from the aclu contending
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that immigration authorities appear to be moving to restart removals under the alien enemies act of 1798
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supreme court had said earlier in april that deportations could proceed only if those about to be removed
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had the chance to argue their case in court were given a reasonable amount of time to contest
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their pending removals now folks these aren't american citizens okay i can understand if the aclu was
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fighting for american citizens they're not these are illegals who are being deported out of america
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and we have supreme court justices i'm not saying amy coney barrett or i'm not saying john roberts
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who tend to think um who tend to think that illegals have rights here in america
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it's truly disgusting and truly a disgrace and uh it makes me sick to my stomach knowing that we're
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going into the supreme court now to fight for uh birthright citizenship here uh doesn't give me a
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very good feeling knowing that uh that we have uh these people on the court amy coney barrett has been
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an absolute disgrace to the court uh disgrace to everybody and um i think totally fooled president
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trump in the first administration uh by getting her way on the court um this is what we have to deal
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with now uh folks for the foreseeable future uh as she teams up with john roberts and the rest of the
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liberals on the court uh also happening on this fine monday in america house oversight committee
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chairman james comer has referred andrew cuomo to the doj for criminal prosecution
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comer writing in a brief memo to pam bondy quote on october 30th of 2024 the select subcommittee on
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the coronavirus pandemic referred former governor andrew cuomo over the state of new york for making
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criminally false statements in violation of 18 usc 1001 to our knowledge the biden administration
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ignored the referral despite clear facts and evidence accordingly request that you review
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this referral and take appropriate action we reference the referral is attached to this letter
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great on james comer and that just happening um just a few hours ago uh not even out of the house
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oversight committee folks there's infighting happening inside the marxist dem party democrats are
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scrambling for a new identity congresswoman ocasio cortez alexandria or as tucker carlson likes to call her
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sandy cortez is racing to fill that void in that vacuum with party rooted problems with bernie sanders
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and and the left-wing populism there's going to be a real issue here coming and i'm not sure if it's
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going to wait until the 2028 presidential race um sandy cortez out of new york may be looking at a primary
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uh to chuck schumer not entirely sure um but it's looking as so because she's got no chance at
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president um our good friend mark mitchell of rasmussen tells us and assures us by the way he was spot on
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on the 2024 election with president trump's numbers uh he tells us that she's got no chance her polling is
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absolutely terrible now this of course as sandy cortez and bernie sanders continue to travel around the
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country on private jets and first class flights um preaching out against elon musk for being a
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billionaire go figure i didn't know only billionaires flew first class apparently not because sandy and
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bernie are going private and first class uh folks our guest today is the founder for priest for life
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father frank pavone i asked him to join us today in light of all the information and news
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um breaking today inside the catholic church and the passing of pope francis father it's great to
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have you back with us here on the great america show i guess under you know not so good circumstances
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anytime a life is lost in in this world in this country it's not something you know we celebrate of
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course we celebrate the sanctity of life but um you know when they head off into their next phases of
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life um you know it's uh it's out of time big loss in the church today um i want to get your
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thoughts first uh on on pope francis this is a man who defrocked you of of your job and the great
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work you were doing in the catholic church let's get a let a sense of that first before we go a
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little bit further into the catholic church and where it's going to head yes well like you said it
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is a day of mourning and we'll continue to uh as a church uh mourn the passing of the the earthly uh father
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although of course jesus christ is the head of the church but the pope has a very important
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responsibility right at the center of all that and like you say he you know he made some bad decisions
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uh in regarding to me as is one of them although before he dismissed me from the priesthood he did
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praise my work and i met with him like five times and he liked the work we were doing so there were
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other forces at work there you know other people influencing him uh especially among the american
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hierarchy who are sometimes more control more concerned about controlling god's work than doing god's
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work and when we as a as an autonomous ministry began growing and became quite influential some
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of them got nervous so you know i don't blame it all on pope francis but the but the fact of the
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matter is that this you know my story is um an indication of part of the problem we've experienced in the
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church over these last 12 years of pope francis and that is that there is some serious division
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uh there are those within the church who are saying uh look we've got to take the faith and really fight
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for it in the public square starting with pro-life but also confront the culture of the woke transgender
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ideology and be firm about that no matter who's going to be offended in the process now pope francis
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was coming from the point of view of saying well you know we went we have to care for everybody and let
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them know that the church is about more than our message on abortion and sexuality well of course it
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is but if you contradict or or neglect those messages you're also not being true to who you
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are as the church so there's a delicate balance here but in trying to make others feel welcomed
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he also made those of us who are holding on to the faith and teaching it and professing it at the cost
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sometimes a great sacrifice he made us feel that we were not being affirmed or or even acknowledged
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at times so that's where that's the dilemma that we we've lived through and you know there have been
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certain movements within the church like the traditional latin mass movement that pope francis
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has just basically pushed to the side and it's been very hurtful uh many others you know what like when he did
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what he did not just to me but bishop strickland archbishop vigano it's like what is this i mean
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after a while it was so so transparent that there was an agenda here against what people might call
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the more conservative elements of the church that is a wound that is a series of decisions he made
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that now have to be reversed and that is a wound that needs to be healed yeah and and he's gone on to
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meet his creators and uh you know i i um you know i say he'll be judged by them you know um uh by the
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almighty on how he he governed and ruled here and you know in our eyes it wasn't um exactly
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ideal um you know i'm a practicing catholic father i grew up catholic schools went to one of the catholic
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schools that you were a father at um and you know throughout the years i've sort of um diverted from
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the catholic faith not so much the faith but from from the actual religion itself there's just so much
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that has disgusted me and and and i think a lot of people uh over the last 12 or so years but dating
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back even longer whether it be the cover-ups in the catholic church whether it be in embracing
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transgender ideologies or train or a mass migrations of countries that don't even belong to you
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um you know i visited the vatican many times and it's such a spiritual place and once you're in that
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place it's like everything else on the outside doesn't matter to you and it's it's the same
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feeling i get when i go to church but the catholic church has left me and i think so many other people
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who don't i think the last time i had you on i had just lost my uncle to 9 11 cancer and we're sitting
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in the church and this man is talking politics about loving one each other and this and yes of
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course we're gonna love one each other but then goes into no matter where you come from no matter what
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you believe and we're like you know we just lost our uncle we lost a brother we lost a father we lost
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a son and you're sitting here talking politics uh i was talking with mark simone the other day a great
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new york city radio host and i said there's very few places where you should be able to go where you
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don't have to worry about politics a sporting event and church are among two that you know hit off the
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top of my head where everyone can love each other agree on something and not have to deal with it but
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i think we've we've veered so far past that that it scares me can we ever come back to the true
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message of god and i think that the blame for this rests with the left and and i say that because
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you know the positions they've taken have been not just this not just disagreements about policy
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but disagreements about principle underneath all the policies there are certain principles that
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we should not disagree on the sanctity of life the meaning of freedom the fact that if we're here
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in america america is good and and the fact that a man is a man a woman is a woman and these are truths
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that people can't change by their own choice and i would add to that a baby in the womb is a baby
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you can't change that by your own choice now these are principles the left has gone so far
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in attacking systematically and they don't even hide the fact that they attack faith freedom family
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marriage god pro-life america itself that's why even these places that should be neutral on politics
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have very often lost that neutrality because it's like even when we get together for purely
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non-political events we're all aware yeah well we're all aware that there are certain things that
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we do all agree on and we all take for granted the left no longer takes them for granted and that's why
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the split i mean we saw it in this election and i think this was a reason why we had so much success
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in this last election because i'm i'm sure you heard what i heard all over the country people were
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saying hey this is just a choice now between good and evil yeah it's not so much even this candidate
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that candidate this party that party it's a choice between common sense and insanity so when a party
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goes off into the land of insanity and into the land of evil that division cuts through everything
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we've got to get back to common sense politics president trump is bringing us back to that praise
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god but i think that's part of what's happening yeah you heard in this election father what they tried
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to do is the democrats tried to demonize the right against the voters they tried to make abortion the
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number one issue now for some people it is the number one issue but it's for more so the people
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on the right who uh appreciate the sanctity of life and less for the democrats on the left but they tried
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to make it they got donald trump on a debate stage and they tried to make it donald trump is coming after
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your contraceptive he's coming after condoms he's coming after everything under the sun to ensure that
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you can never have abortion again but it was so simple the the reversal of roe v wade was so simple
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and it was so simply explained to the fact of if you live in liberal new york you can still go be a
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demon and have your abortions if you're in a more conservative state they cherish the sanctity of life
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and they're going to uh show that through the state laws it's very simple nobody's telling you can't
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have an abortion so they tried to demonize the right and it did not work every single
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poll after poll it was constantly roe v wade is the number one thing on the ballot well if that
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were the number one thing on the ballot donald trump would have lost right because he is pro-life so if
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it did come down to that donald trump would have lost it was a lie it was something the media ran with
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and it was something the media uh tried to use against us they lost they lost this election uh and
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they lost uh the abortion battle you had mentioned something there's some things that are just
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fundamentally black and white right right and left whatever you want to call it okay and uh abortion
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is one of them right you're either pro-abortion or anti-abortion there's no way that you're somehow
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in between you cannot be a practicing catholic or a practicing man of faith and somehow agree with
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abortion they just do not mix that's right are we on the same page of that somehow we see these democrats
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we saw joe biden going to church i don't understand what's even the point of going to church
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if you believe that you can pull a baby out of the womb yeah well the only way they can get away
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with that in the eyes of many americans is that they fail to say the last phrase that you just said
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they'll they'll bring abortion front and center they'll use the word but then they'll talk about
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everything but abortion have you ever heard biden or kamala harris or any of these democrats describe
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an abortion how it's done you know they talk about oh i'm gonna exercise my choice they never describe
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what the choice is oh we're gonna have the abortion procedure not only available but paid for by
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taxpayers but they never describe how the procedure works or what it is that the doctor takes out of
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the woman on the other end of that plastic tube or those forceps and that's why uh what you're saying
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is true we who put abortion first in the sense of hey if we can't defend the right to life we can't
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defend any other right either we're actually talking about the issue that we're bringing forward
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they bring forward the issue and then they don't talk about it at all that just shows that
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they're on the wrong side of it they're afraid to describe what they defend so um very accurate
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what you're saying they did lose on this they tried to energize their base because after all it was the
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only issue that they felt they could talk about they needed to distract the american people from what
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was going on on the border uh from the the economy uh the failures on the international stage so
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embarrassing i mean biden uh uh just did so much damage and not just biden the whole democrat party
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uh so they tried to put their eggs in the abortion basket and like you said it did not work
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no pun intended i mean it's uh it's truly sickening to even look at these people i don't understand how
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they wake up every morning father and they look themselves in the mirror i don't think any of them
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own mirrors because if they did they would be sick to their stomachs looking at what they look like
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these you've probably spoken to a lot of politicians and whenever i talk to a politician which i don't
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have as many politicians on this show as i used to i maybe have three or four that i reach out to who
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i truly cherish one of them congressman tim birch of the great state of tennessee has become a really
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good friend of mine but there's very few of them i don't think these people wake up in the morning
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father and look at themselves in the in the eyes and look at themselves in the face because they
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wouldn't like what they see these people are pure programmatic and it's not just people on the left
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it's people on the right as well programmatic and and they're like bots they they you know they they
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they're like barely alive you know they're owned and bought a lot of them all owned and bought by
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you know major corporations uh going to the abortion battle i mean look at how much big pharma
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and these companies that perform abortions and contraceptives look at how much they donate to
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these politicians can you imagine if we got that out of politics and and we stuck to the issue maybe
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these people would say what they truly believe on the inside what do you think well you know you bring up
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a point that is uh more profound than probably a lot of our listeners are realizing right now when
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you talk about that mirror because i work with a lot of psychologists and psychiatrists as we uh carry
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out our ministry of healing people from the wounds of abortion right so now what does this have to do
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with politics the folks on the left that we're talking about who are pushing abortion but not just that
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they're pushing open borders now you think you know how people often ask when these among you know
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like us commentators on these issues they say well what's the problem here is are they so ignorant or
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are they evil or is it both because there's no third alternative you're either so just excuse the term
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just so stupid or you will really know what you're doing and you're and you're just plain evil and i think
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it's a combination of the two but when you're like that you know deep down okay unless you're
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completely crazy you know deep down that what you're choosing what you're advocating is evil
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and destructive so what does that mean that means now that you are angry and ashamed of yourself
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but these people can't afford to be angry at themselves because then they'll just collapse and
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you know despair and whatnot so they have to displace their anger they got to be angry at someone else
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they need a bad guy and guess who who who they've chosen donald j trump that's why we say you know
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trump derangement syndrome this is not just a a funny way of us criticizing them although it is kind
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of fun and you know i like those little uh you know those memes of the you know the the anti-trump
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derangement syndrome drugs and you know it has the symptoms and the dosages and the side effects
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and it's a lot of fun to talk about this but the reason it's funny and fun is that it's true and
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there really is a trump derangement syndrome and it has a lot to do with what you just said it's true
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they literally cannot look themselves in the mirror because then they would be too angry with themselves
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so they got to displace that anger onto someone else and that explains how these people continue to
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behave the way they behave hate the way they hate and at the same time press on issues that are so
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radically disconnected from the american voters that it's just putting them in deeper and deeper
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into a hole where they're not going to be able to win any more elections at all and as far as we're
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concerned that's just fine with us right yeah and the only way to win them is steal them now politics
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but we'll just go with that no there is a mental health crisis in america and the democrats are
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massively uh to blame for it and and a massive part of it
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i want to go back to uh pope francis yeah got you on here uh you had mentioned um archbishop uh vegano
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and he had put out a statement today where he says quote he will have to account for the crimes
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he has committed that's a very powerful statement from archbishop carlo vegano who a man who was
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um persecuted against like you what do you think he means by that he has been very very um clear
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first of all about the the the pope's duty to teach the faith and the fact that he hasn't done so pope
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francis has said things which confuse the faithful which depart from the you know what what what the
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normal person in the pews i'm not talking about all these theological nuances you know he can write
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chapter after chapter oh what i meant was this and it's technically that but people in the pews that's
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not what you're how you're called to lead them you speak the truth clearly so that as soon as they hear
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it it resonates with them they know that it's the truth and he's done just the opposite so archbishop
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vegano is is very concerned about that he's very concerned about uh how the pope was uh being you know
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buying into this world uh globalism ethic uh movements like climate change it's no it's not by
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accident that someone like a pope is going to stand up and say oh how important the climate
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change issue is and i think you know archbishop vegano is saying what do you mean the climate
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change it's a myth this is this is this is insane but there's an underlying reason uh it goes back to
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the question before you know are you ignorant or are you evil there is a world coalition of those who
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are pressing on issues like this because they want to reshape the world they don't want self-governing
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uh republics like we see you know uh movements springing up not only in america but around the
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world in different nations uh they they don't like nationalism they don't like national boundaries
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national identity tradition the constitution and so vegano looks at pope francis and says he's part of
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that whole very deliberate conspiracy and then of course when he says crimes i i believe he's also
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talking about and i've i've had the privilege to to talk to the archbishop about these things uh we've
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known each other for years um he talks about how the weaponization of government is not just something
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that's been conducted by the deep state in american politics it's being conducted by what the archbishop
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calls the deep church and the weaponization of church government is what we see in examples like
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what the pope did to him to our to bishop strickland and to me uh so it is using procedures that
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otherwise they have a legitimate purpose but inventing you know crimes that you never committed
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you know inventing complaints that that have no substance and it's like the old communist line you know
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show me the man and i'll show you the crime oh we need to sideline this guy so let's make up some
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excuse and then use the processes of church government to sideline them this this all of
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these things together uh are what i believe the archbishop is uh is talking about he'd also put
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out this message i'm not sure if you saw on twitter uh in 2018 eugenio slafari who was an italian
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journalist uh reported that the words of bergoglio's pope francis supposedly confided in him about the
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vision of afterlife quote sinful souls are not punished those who repent to pay god forgiveness and join the
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ranks of souls who contemplate him but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear
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there is no hell sinful souls simply disappear now go against the exact teaching of the catholic
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faith yes it does it goes against the very words of jesus i mean jesus spoke about hell not just as a
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possibility but as a future reality there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth he will say to those
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those on his left depart from me you wicked go to the eternal fire that's been prepared for you
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jesus didn't speak about hell just as a theoretical possibility but an actual reality that some people
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sad to say will experience not because god rejects them but because they reject god so um where somebody
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comes up with something like that see it it's sort of like this this desire to oh let's just be pleasing
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to everybody let's not give everyone anything to worry about because when you take a position like
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that it's like okay then what do people have to repent of and exactly why do they have to repent
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and this was another big concern during the papacy of pope francis that some theologians and other church
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leaders raised this is you know you're talking about god's forgiveness yes we have to talk more and more
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and more about god's forgiveness but you you don't get forgiveness unless you repent if you're still
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holding on to your sin what you're saying by holding on to it is that you don't want forgiveness
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you want to keep sinning those two things are incompatible and so many would say myself included
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that while we applaud his his his emphasis on god's mercy we question you know why aren't you saying more
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about what's necessary to to obtain that mercy the repentance of our sins and he doesn't want to say
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he doesn't want to say that to the gay uh and lesbian uh uh people who are living that lifestyle
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and the transgender people and i i mean and this is where again without judging the the pope uh it's
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like you look at the effects and and say you know people are just they're scratching their heads and
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they're saying what you just said that doesn't sound like the teachings of the church or of the
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scriptures yeah it definitely leaves a stain on the catholic church i was reading this article maybe
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i do my daily morning read i read for about four hours a morning and i read the daily mail every
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day and maybe a few months ago i came across an article about a man who had died and came back to
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life three times and he talks about in this article i'll send it to you after this uh he went to heaven
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and hell and he explains meeting jesus in heaven uh i mean it's a true story from his account meeting jesus
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and jesus told him you know go be a good man and go back to earth and he says it's happened to him
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three times uh to me i mean that's just crazy but you know i mean are we not to believe a man who tells
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a story it's um a truly remarkable um how do you go go ahead and god can give people if you choose so
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chooses those experiences precisely so that they can strengthen the faith of the rest of us i think that
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would terrify the heck out of me yeah um uh you know you know what it it if you're at peace you
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know you're at peace um i want to talk about the catholic church and how uh before we get to how we
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can save the catholic church your role in the catholic church right now will you personally seek to re
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now i'm not suggesting by any way you've lost your faith because obviously you haven't but will you
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seek to maybe reintegrate back into the catholic church and and the teachings on on the you know
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a broad scale yes in other words what you're referring to is whether i can function as a priest
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again wear the collar right instead of just this shirt uh say the mass publicly i'm allowed to say it
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privately but uh to publicly minister as a priest that's what pope francis uh took away from me and yes
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it certainly is something that can be done and it's something that i will request once the new pope
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is in place in a few weeks uh and to do that i simply have to it's simply a request it's not like
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some long drawn out process uh we had the long drawn out process already it led pope francis to uh to say
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you know of course now i'm still a part of the catholic church i'm still you know a catholic in good
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standing i can you know receive the sacraments and i do but uh we're and and and as you also know
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i'm still continuing my public pro-life work just like i've been doing for the last 32 years except
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without the without you know the saying of mass or things like that so um so so so a lot has remained
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the same for me but of course it's a big deal if a priest is told he can't be a priest so yes that is
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something i will ask to be re uh reinstated and i believe that that's what will happen because i
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think that any pope who has uh you know any measure of objectivity and looking at what was done to me
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it really was the weaponization of church government and i've told the story publicly many times it's out
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on my website but uh you know i was lied to i was lied about i was you know it was one of those things
00:29:41.400
where you know just like you see what they did to president trump and his his followers you know
00:29:46.220
where you say oh you have to do a b and c but it's they don't make clear what their concern is
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and then when you try to do a b and c they move the goal post and it it's just a game you know you
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you can't you can't negotiate with these people um but now with new leadership we'll see what happens
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i'll certainly knock on the door and make the request to me it's totally asinine the fact that
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you've had and this is in conjecture this is fact you've had and one of them passed away
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recently cardinal mccarrick i believe is his name yeah man who has been accused back to the 80s
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and i've done a lot of research on this man and i've had people on the show talking about this man
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this is a man you go back to the 80s has been accused of pedophilia in the catholic church
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and has been swept under the rug and under the rug and he's become a friend of joe biden he just
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passed away i believe a month ago an evil evil man who was allowed to practice under the catholic
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church was allowed to go off into the sunset under his own uh being yeah you have a man like father
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frank pavone who was uh persecuted for literally uh uh going out and preaching the word of god i mean
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make that make sense please please please i would love to hear the explanation because
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even though i've lived this for for the last few decades i don't know i really don't know that
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well you know why i don't know because there is no reason there's there's no like you say it's
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let's turn to the future of the catholic church and where we go from here um about a billion and
00:31:20.600
a half people are uh quote unquote practicing catholics um the catholic church as we we said
00:31:28.060
in the first segment here uh it has left in my opinion has left so many people um scratching their
00:31:34.100
head looking for new religion i mean people have branched off into christianity and to methodists
00:31:39.340
and and all the different uh teachings of god uh to leave the catholic faith because of of of how
00:31:46.400
uh left and how wrong you know they've led they've led all of us first of all who is your pick now if you
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without getting political i guess if we can who would you like to see run the vatican next
00:32:01.600
you know i would love to see an african pope i think there are a lot of african cardinals
00:32:06.940
cardinal robert sarah is one of them who you know they're very very uh clear and direct in their
00:32:13.280
teaching but in in a very loving way they're so effective and you know they're less affected by the
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politics of you know europe and america and and some of these things that have affected the church in
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a negative way so that would be wonderful i mean i have no inside uh knowledge of who's in favor who's
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not i mean the cardinals themselves i don't think they know they're going to have to do a lot of
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talking with each other over these coming days and figure out who what you know how the consensus is
00:32:40.740
going to emerge but uh an african cardinal i think would be good for the church for everyone who's not
00:32:46.080
familiar with the process i mean it's been 12 years a little over i guess a little over 12 since the
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process started last time it's truly a fascinating you don't have to be a catholic or you know you
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could be a muslim you could be the whole process is just so fascinating and the way that it's gone
00:33:00.760
about and the old school ritual are you are you familiar with the process that you could tell the
00:33:05.540
audience because i am fascinated by it but you can probably explain it better than i well of course now
00:33:10.940
we're in a period of of mourning there are there are nine days uh and sometimes it goes longer than
00:33:16.740
that uh that are set aside to simply make the transition to bid bid farewell uh to pope francis
00:33:23.520
and have all the ceremonies that go with that and then the funeral and the burial then the cardinals
00:33:28.520
so the cardinals of the church a couple of hundred of them uh are specially appointed to be close advisors
00:33:34.900
to the pope and one of their key responsibilities is to elect a new pope and normally they elect the pope
00:33:43.000
from among their own number so one of the existing cardinals will be chosen as the next pope they gather
00:33:49.400
together for a secret meeting called a conclave and they do it right there in the vatican in fact
00:33:54.960
they meet in the in the sistine chapel which i'm sure many of our viewers have seen and um and they will
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take as many days as they need to take sometimes it only takes a day and a half sometimes it might go
00:34:06.700
a little bit longer but they'll have these deliberations and they'll take these votes
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and they'll decide on a new pope uh the process is not um the same as uh i mean there are political
00:34:18.840
elements to it obviously it's not quite the same as american politics they don't like run for office
00:34:24.960
you know in fact they're forbidden you know i'm sure some of them do it anyway but they're forbidden
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from you know what we would call campaigning or electioneering hey vote for me and if i become pope
00:34:35.220
i'm gonna do this for you you know that's forbidden uh and they can be punished if that if in fact they
00:34:40.560
they get caught doing that but um uh no they'll they'll they'll gather together and they'll have
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those deliberations and then they'll announce to the world who their choice is and you know the
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meeting is so secret you know that there's no like communication into the room or out from the room
00:34:55.900
uh they communicate in a very old-fashioned way with smoke coming out of the smokestack
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of the sistine chapel and if the smoke is is gray it means they haven't decided yet
00:35:06.400
or if it's black i should say they haven't decided if it's white that means we've decided
00:35:11.940
and in a little while we're going to come out on the balcony and we're going to tell you who we chose
00:35:15.520
and and my understanding is uh that smoke is the burned ballots right yes yes and and and one year
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i forget what pope it was that was being elected but the news the news came on and they showed the
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smoke coming out of the the sistine uh chapel there and they're looking at it and they said well
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ladies and gentlemen the smoke is definitely gray some of the residue i guess were left in there from
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the black so it was definitely gray but uh no it's it's funny you know there's something uh charming
00:35:48.100
about the way they do this you know it takes these very very ancient i mean this has been going on for
00:35:53.320
two thousand years and uh i think certain details of it change as as time goes on but the catholic
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church is one of the oldest uh living vibrant institutions uh in the world and um it's intriguing
00:36:06.840
it really is i'm sure the election's very secure it's done via paper ballot and i'm sure there's no
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rigging and machines used to uh to to cast their votes to make sure it works and it's not a secret
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ballot either these men have to announce it in front of all the other cardinals i am i hear and
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it's a solemn formula by the way they stand up and they say in the presence of god and and you know
00:36:30.320
it's like a solemn oath i declare that i truly believe that the best choice for pope is so and so
00:36:37.900
and they say the name and then they put the ballot in the box uh and it's uh yeah it's it's an
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interesting system now how many people is it among about 140 or so that you can't as i said before
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there's a couple of hundred cardinals but a lot of them are over 80 years old so if you're over 80 you
00:36:57.300
can't participate in the conclave but you have lost the right to actually vote in the process they cut
00:37:03.380
it off at age 80 so among those who are voting i think it's something like 130 140 uh that'll that'll
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that'll vote and like i say they choose someone from among their own ranks so it can be one of the
00:37:16.080
130 that that they they nominate yep very big very big pool of people uh like i said the process is so
00:37:23.420
so uh fascinating to me not even just as a catholic but uh you know as a she has a human being um i want
00:37:30.580
to turn to once this person this man is is uh elected i pray to god it's it's someone who's either
00:37:40.720
apolitical or someone who doesn't believe in everything that pope francis believed in
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no no climate change people we don't want right right no no border warriors no immigration warriors
00:37:53.740
none of these do you think we can get the catholic church back on track to where it was you know 20
00:38:00.920
years ago but reformed of course because it definitely uh needs some reforming uh as for some of the things
00:38:06.780
we've spoken about can we get it back on track yes i think so and there are two levels uh to think
00:38:12.420
about this on one from a supernatural level and we we are we are both again believers in the catholic
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faith we truly believe that the church was established by jesus and is guided by the holy
00:38:23.440
spirit now that doesn't mean that that there aren't really bad leaders who do really bad things we've been
00:38:28.360
talking about that uh but it does mean that at its core that jesus and the holy spirit will never
00:38:34.040
allow the entire church to go completely off the track you know where we were to no longer believe
00:38:40.420
in the gospel for example um the church is is is secure in that even if a lot of the people that
00:38:48.120
doesn't mean that even a lot of the people won't fall away from the faith or you know but we do see
00:38:53.440
also a vibrancy within the church uh these days of people rediscovering the faith young people coming
00:38:59.000
back to the faith and so forth so on a supernatural level uh we're confident that god keeps the church
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on the track but just on a human political level i'm hopeful that the change we've seen in america
00:39:14.160
this was a drastic uh change in this this last election people are sick and tired of the uh the woke
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agenda we've seen this haven't we in other countries too that have had elections that have brought forth
00:39:27.800
wonderful conservative leaders i think this is a sign of the times i think this is a sign of something
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that's bubbling up within humanity all across the globe and because the same people who are going
00:39:42.100
into these voting booths in america and and elsewhere are also in large measure the people who are sitting
00:39:49.300
in the pews in the churches i think we're going to also see this this this great wave go get get
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manifested in the church including in this election to take place in a couple of weeks for for pope
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i'm i'm i think there's reason to to think that that will happen i'm i'm confident and hopeful that
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it will happen and it will be a glorious victory that that in 20 just think of it we could look back
00:40:14.880
and say in 2025 we elected a a president of the united states that literally initiated a golden era
00:40:22.940
for america and the catholic church elected a pope who's going to initiate a golden era for the church
00:40:29.980
because again we're living in the same moment of history we're living in the same the same winds that
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are blowing are blowing over church believers as well as voters and and and many of us are the same
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so we'll see we'll see but i'm hopeful these are my words not yours uh we can say we've defeated
00:40:48.100
marxism both in the catholic church and both in america politics uh and yes you know it i believe
00:40:55.360
we've saved america by electing donald trump and i you know i pray to god and i hope to god that we
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can save the catholic church by electing somebody um worthy of the job and someone wanting to do the
00:41:05.900
job to follow the word of god and not the word of whatever european leader is talking in your ear
00:41:12.800
father frank frank mavone it's always uh insightful and and relaxing to talk to you i have to be
00:41:18.220
totally honest um you get the last word here the floor is yours whatever you want to sell whatever
00:41:22.860
you want to pitch whatever you want to say this is uh i want to i want to say to our viewers let's
00:41:29.060
join hands together and create a new era for the whole world uh embracing what the change that we've
00:41:36.700
seen in america we've got to put our feet on the gas and keep on pressing forward and let's do the
00:41:41.940
same among believers it's we cannot let our church fall to the woke culture let's all work together i
00:41:48.040
want to invite people to connect with me and with my ministry of priests for life connect with me on
00:41:53.340
social media at fr frank pavone on all the major platforms that's fr frank pavone and let's do this
00:42:00.060
work together because everyone listening to us right now has an irreplaceable role god wants to speak
00:42:06.140
through you he wants to act through you he wants to change things through you and everything we've
00:42:10.720
talked about today is is really geared towards that we want to encourage our audience uh to really
00:42:15.580
step up to the plate and do the unique role that god has called you to do so let's all do it together
00:42:20.820
let's do it with joy and let's do it with a prayerful spirit as we enter into really a new age for america
00:42:27.520
and for the church and i pray next time you you're out here in staten island you're at a church uh giving a
00:42:33.960
mass and i will be there in attendance and we'll get you back into the catholic church
00:42:38.140
that'll be a joy that'll be a joy thank you father pavone as always a pleasure to have you thank you
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so much god bless you thanks to father frank pavone and thank you all folks for being with us today here
00:42:49.220
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