The Great America Show - July 05, 2023


SPY AGENCIES & DEEP STATE ARE IN CHARGE


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Former NSA analyst Russ Tice joins Lou Dobbs to discuss the growing problem of whistleblower protection in the intelligence community, and the need for reform of the surveillance programs used by the Deep State to spy on the American people.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and I hope you had a wonderful 4th of July Independence Day holiday.
00:00:09.400 We weren't without a distraction or two over the weekend from our celebrations of the founding of our republic.
00:00:16.080 President Biden spent the weekend at Camp David with his family, including, of course, son Hunter Biden,
00:00:22.480 who flew with the president from the White House to Camp David.
00:00:25.860 It is now feared in some quarters that Hunter Biden may have left something behind, as he sometimes does.
00:00:35.960 The Secret Service discovered what they describe as a suspicious white substance,
00:00:42.340 and they called in the fire department hazardous materials team, suspecting we know not what.
00:00:49.180 That team, as reported by the Washington Post, radioed their test results, saying,
00:00:55.220 we have a yellow bar saying cocaine hydrochloride, and it was confirmed to be cocaine.
00:01:04.980 And saying it's a yellow bar sounds like there's quite a bit of it, doesn't it?
00:01:09.440 And it was found in the White House.
00:01:12.340 And Hunter, who has famously left behind things like laptops and crack pipes,
00:01:18.080 was there before leaving for Camp David with his father.
00:01:21.360 And it's hard to imagine, isn't it, that if there were a list of names of anyone who might have left behind
00:01:28.660 a yellow bar of cocaine in the White House, Hunter Biden's name would be on that list, don't you think?
00:01:35.980 And fairly high up as well.
00:01:38.480 And as House investigations of the Biden crime family intensify,
00:01:43.280 President Biden is under greater scrutiny than ever,
00:01:45.980 and it appears, at least to me, that his political capital, his influence in the swamp, is now ebbing.
00:01:53.840 And what has been exposed is the great internal conflict of our time,
00:01:58.380 between Marxist Dems, the deep state who hate America and all we stand for,
00:02:04.160 and on the other side, Republicans, Independents, Patriots,
00:02:07.680 who believe in the Republic and our founding principles, the American way of life.
00:02:12.520 And our elected officials will have a very hard time deceiving the awakening American public.
00:02:19.040 Not all have awakened, certainly, but perhaps enough to demand the truth.
00:02:24.020 And that may be sufficient to win the war against the evil that controls our capital and our federal government.
00:02:31.560 And Republican congressional leaders like Jim Jordan and James Comer,
00:02:35.740 taking on the corrupt deep state as well as the corrupt Marxist Dems,
00:02:39.620 the Biden regime, Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan,
00:02:43.580 has promised reform of the surveillance tools of Section 702.
00:02:48.560 But I doubt that reform alone can protect the American people
00:02:52.380 from the politicized, weaponized deep state, especially the spy agencies.
00:02:58.380 Whistleblowers are courageously stepping forward,
00:03:01.400 talking with Jordan and Comer's committees,
00:03:03.940 and each has revealed the sordid corruption that permeates our government.
00:03:08.160 Our guest today is the former NSA senior intelligence analyst
00:03:12.640 and whistleblower Russ Tice, a great American.
00:03:16.740 Russ, thank you for being with us again,
00:03:18.940 particularly as renewal of Section 702 of the Foreign Surveillance Act
00:03:23.180 sends shivers up the backs of most Americans,
00:03:26.560 and as Congress desperately needs more whistleblowers from the intelligence community,
00:03:32.060 you say they don't have enough protection.
00:03:34.660 Why is that?
00:03:35.460 Well, a national security whistleblower,
00:03:38.340 and that involves people who work in the intelligence community,
00:03:43.440 and law enforcement, federal law enforcement, the FBI,
00:03:46.980 are exempt from the Whistleblower Protection Act,
00:03:51.040 and even the Intelligence Whistleblower Protection Act
00:03:54.420 only gives that person the right to bring it up to, like,
00:03:57.460 the director of their agency or the IG.
00:04:02.080 In my case, the IG was not even cleared for the information I wanted to talk to them with.
00:04:08.580 And then it's the director that determines whether they're a legitimate whistleblower or not.
00:04:12.860 So do you think the director of the FBI is allowing these people
00:04:16.420 and determining them to be legitimate whistleblowers and say,
00:04:19.340 yes, go ahead to Congress and tell them whatever you know?
00:04:21.780 And your point is that they are not protected under the whistleblower law.
00:04:28.560 That is correct.
00:04:29.560 And I hear all these politicians saying that we are going to protect them under the law,
00:04:38.340 and they're obviously ignorant that the law does not protect them.
00:04:41.420 I hear it over and over again.
00:04:42.640 It beguiles me to no end.
00:04:45.120 And, you know, under President Trump,
00:04:47.760 we had these supposed whistleblowers that are going after him
00:04:51.280 and ultimately wanted to impeach him and did over this silly phone call to Ukraine.
00:04:58.780 And did President Trump go and retaliate against them?
00:05:01.980 No, he did not.
00:05:02.860 And he could have, but he did not.
00:05:04.900 And that shows the restraint that President Trump,
00:05:07.380 who's supposed to be the most evil man in the world,
00:05:09.420 showed against people that they were throwing hash at him,
00:05:14.160 and it was total nonsense.
00:05:16.200 But, no, we have, you know, we call ourselves spooks in our world.
00:05:20.280 We have no whistleblower protection.
00:05:22.020 That's the very first thing that NSA threw in my face
00:05:25.180 when I tried to bring this up to the Merit System Protection Board.
00:05:28.480 And the only reason I could go to the Merit System Protection Board
00:05:31.540 was because I was a head of military service.
00:05:36.080 And the Office of Special Counsel is also exempt
00:05:40.160 from people going to the Office of Special Counsel with a complaint.
00:05:43.500 Now, even when I went to the Merit System Protection Board,
00:05:46.080 the judge said, you know, this involves a security clearance,
00:05:49.180 and I'm not going to look at that.
00:05:50.800 And so he basically put a knife in my back.
00:05:52.880 And he said, oh, by the way, you did a really good defense.
00:05:55.000 You ought to consider being a lawyer
00:05:56.080 as I'm walking away with a knife in my back.
00:05:59.460 So, yes, there is no protection.
00:06:03.380 None.
00:06:03.680 Let me ask you this.
00:06:05.200 Is there an informal group of whistleblowers
00:06:09.320 who've stepped forward over the years?
00:06:11.720 Well, there's a few organizations.
00:06:14.060 One is called POGO, and I forget what POGO stands for.
00:06:18.220 Another one is the Whistleblower Coalition,
00:06:22.160 which I'm actually a member of.
00:06:24.320 Another one is called, starts with a G.
00:06:27.520 I can't remember what that one is.
00:06:28.760 But in 2000, and these organizations push for enhancements.
00:06:34.620 As a matter of fact, they push for the enhancements
00:06:36.460 of the Whistleblower Protection Act that took place in 2008,
00:06:42.560 or was it 2012?
00:06:44.140 No, it was 2012, I guess it was.
00:06:46.160 And they did get more people covered by the Whistleblower Protection Act.
00:06:55.560 But on the sly, this was when President Obama was in office.
00:06:59.800 On the sly, they were going to include intelligence folks and FBI folks.
00:07:05.460 But in the sly, a certain senator from Maine went and talked to the president
00:07:10.940 and arranged to make sure in the wee hours that that was all thrown out of the bill.
00:07:18.180 And I do believe her name is Collins from Maine.
00:07:22.920 So thanks, Senator Collins, for putting the knife in her back on that one.
00:07:27.320 So after taking that Dirk, so they passed.
00:07:31.280 They passed.
00:07:31.780 They included some more folks.
00:07:33.520 Once again, the intel folks and the federal law enforcement were excluded.
00:07:39.680 Well, this is deeply troubling because what we are witnessing,
00:07:43.500 and I have said one of the reasons I have thought of the FBI in particular
00:07:49.720 as corrupt through and through is that not a single whistleblower had stepped forward.
00:07:54.580 And with the understanding that there is no protection for them other than that,
00:08:00.360 that can be brought to bear through the U.S. Congress, that's deeply troubling.
00:08:08.060 And why would we make such an exemption, as you put it?
00:08:12.060 Why would we not want every federal employee, especially those in the military,
00:08:17.840 on the front lines in intelligence, on the front lines in a different way?
00:08:25.700 Why wouldn't we want them protected?
00:08:28.180 Well, I don't think it's – the answer is not why we.
00:08:31.060 The answer is why the people in power don't want that to happen,
00:08:33.900 because ultimately these people, the whistleblowers, are going to drop the dime
00:08:38.080 on illegal and unconstitutional and nefarious activities that are happening
00:08:43.820 at the tops of their own agencies and within the government.
00:08:48.300 And these people at the top of the government make the rules.
00:08:51.960 So, yes, we as citizens would certainly like to have that happen.
00:08:56.080 Unfortunately, the people we put on Capitol Hill make sure that that doesn't happen.
00:09:00.700 Another thing that's involved here is NSA has been spying on Congress and the chief executive.
00:09:10.000 As a matter of fact, they had President Obama's number,
00:09:12.760 and they were spying on him even before he became president.
00:09:15.680 So my question is what kind of dirt does NSA have against these politicians
00:09:21.400 and the executives that are in power that they can force the issue and say,
00:09:26.120 hey, you better make sure that our own people can't come back at us
00:09:31.960 for our illegal activity, or else we're going to lay down the dirt on you.
00:09:38.560 So I think Congress and even the – I'm pretty sure Obama, they were all being blackmailed.
00:09:45.000 Interestingly enough, NSA and the IC has been swimming in money since 9-11.
00:09:51.680 They have never had one of their budgets questioned.
00:09:54.080 They have money for everything you can think of.
00:09:57.860 NSA is expanding to over 45 different buildings.
00:10:02.380 People just think of the campus at NSA, but there's little subsections of buildings
00:10:07.940 all over the central Maryland area that are all NSA facilities.
00:10:14.320 It's humongous, and people have – where's the accountability for what's going on here?
00:10:20.800 And why do they need so many buildings?
00:10:23.000 Well, ultimately, if you're literally spying on foreign entities and you want to increase
00:10:32.320 that capability, you're going to need to expand somewhat.
00:10:35.080 I mean, there's buildings for admin.
00:10:36.960 There's buildings for logistics.
00:10:38.200 There's buildings for the different services.
00:10:40.360 There's buildings for the contractors that do a lot of the work.
00:10:44.480 But here's – like the big building, the big data center they built out in Bluffdale, Utah.
00:10:52.160 The reason is they've included domestic spying on our own citizens.
00:10:57.160 So now you have to increase the capability because now we are spying on every communication
00:11:03.100 made by every citizen word for word in the United States.
00:11:06.680 So you ultimately have to expand on that, don't you?
00:11:11.000 Well, I would think not.
00:11:13.180 I think that would be up to those folks in power, as you pointed out earlier.
00:11:17.480 Russ Tice, we're talking with the former National Security Senior Intelligence Analyst and
00:11:24.000 Whistleblower.
00:11:25.040 We're going to come right back with Russ Tice right after these messages.
00:11:29.240 Stay with us.
00:11:35.840 We're talking with Russ Tice, former NSA Senior Intelligence Analyst, and we're delighted to have you with us, Russ.
00:11:44.880 Let's get to a couple of these points here because it's – forgive the pun – it is enticing to contemplate all of that space
00:11:56.840 that they've built up, all of the storage that they must have, and all of the recordings.
00:12:02.260 And I wonder how far back they keep that material and whether or not, for example, if we want to know just exactly what
00:12:12.540 President Obama was doing when he was in Cairo, when he gave that famous speech denigrating the United States
00:12:21.620 overseas, why couldn't we just go back and find a little bit out there?
00:12:31.380 Who knows what and who was recording them and what did they learn?
00:12:37.160 You know, it gets to be fascinating.
00:12:39.260 Well, remember, it's everything.
00:12:40.800 So NSA has everything.
00:12:43.480 There's 30-some emails, 30,000-some emails that Ms. Hillary Clinton just happened to disappear at the hands of hammers and grinders or however they destroyed them. 1.00
00:12:57.540 NSA has all those emails.
00:12:59.360 So all the communications, like in the debacle that happened in Libya where we lost an ambassador and a few of our other folks.
00:13:08.880 You mean to tell me – Benghazi, you mean to tell me there's not a whole lot of communications in between the president and Hillary and a whole lot of other folks that supposedly don't exist?
00:13:20.000 Now, of course they do.
00:13:20.920 And NSA has all that.
00:13:21.960 So they have the dirt on everybody.
00:13:25.120 And as far as how – initially, I think, with one of the older provisions, they said they were going to keep the information for five years.
00:13:31.720 And that, I think, has been done away with.
00:13:33.540 So it's basically now in perpetuity that they're going to keep this forever.
00:13:39.780 And that's what that huge facility is out there in Bluffdale, Utah, is for.
00:13:43.800 With the ability – over a million square feet of data storage with the ability to expand.
00:13:50.900 And think about that.
00:13:52.200 You know, with a little chip the size of your pinky fingernail, you can put almost a half of – what, 500 gigs on that, which is incredible.
00:14:04.300 Think about what you can – how much storage – data storage you can put when you have 100 million-plus square feet of storage capability.
00:14:15.020 I have a hard time putting 500 gigabytes, given my technological – I'm technologically disadvantaged.
00:14:24.680 But I can compare it to analog.
00:14:27.060 And every one of those big distribution centers and warehouses that you see across the country where our semi-trucks are going in to load and the logistics are set forth and they're moving tons of goods every day.
00:14:44.180 Each one of those distribution centers is roughly a million square feet, the largest ones.
00:14:50.300 So that's about the same – that's about proximate to the Utah facility, isn't it?
00:14:57.060 Well, it is.
00:14:57.540 But you've got to understand what's happened over the last several years.
00:15:00.620 The intelligence – the communications world has moved from analog to all digital, which is much easier to manipulate when you have it all digital.
00:15:11.400 Before, when you had analog, you'd have to convert it to digital, and there was a whole lot of machinations in the middle of doing all that, which took time and money and space.
00:15:20.520 But now everything is digital.
00:15:23.160 So it makes it so much easier to manipulate and to put it through algorithms and other kind of filters when you have this – and to store it, ultimately.
00:15:34.460 The intelligence community and the deep state, they're really in charge of the government, aren't they?
00:15:39.380 They're in charge of us.
00:15:41.340 I think the answer is yes, Lou.
00:15:42.960 I'm pretty sure the answer is yes.
00:15:44.420 I don't see any other conclusion based on what you're saying.
00:15:49.940 If NSA has all of that history and all of the concurrent conversations, communications between and among government officials, private citizens, other nations, they have – information is power.
00:16:10.300 They are the ultimate power, it would seem to be.
00:16:14.660 You know, we've discussed a little bit of that before.
00:16:17.560 When you have omniscience, you ultimately have omnipotence and NSA.
00:16:24.220 And the system they have is very – you know, it's basically fine-tuned.
00:16:28.420 It's very sentient.
00:16:29.180 They're very proficient at taking this information, filtering it, and placing it in the right pockets so that it can be in databases that are easily accessible, you know, into the future.
00:16:41.640 So it's all very mechanized and it's all ready for use.
00:16:46.180 What we're hearing about the FBI and the information that they're using on people that were even anywhere near the Capitol on January 6th or going to Catholic masses where they speak Latin or going to schoolhouse, you know, the Board of Education schoolhouse meetings and protesting, you know, the fact that they're teaching to have our children mutilated.
00:17:14.400 And, you know, and taught that they're a different sex and that sort of thing.
00:17:21.040 All that information that they're getting on these people domestically, mind you, is coming from NSA.
00:17:26.620 And that's where the FBI gets this information.
00:17:30.340 And NSA is, if you will, the umbrella source for all kinds of surveillance.
00:17:37.000 I guess every kind of surveillance imaginable.
00:17:39.960 But I understand that the CIA is also competitive, now seeking to have its own sources within the CIA.
00:17:49.460 But the point here is, we're looking at the, you know, once again, re-approving the 702s that make possible spying on American citizens.
00:18:08.060 What we're really saying is there's no way in hell that Congress will not approve that because they're owned by the NSA.
00:18:15.740 Is that right?
00:18:17.020 That's correct.
00:18:17.520 That's correct.
00:18:18.800 You know, I mean, the 702, if you, I think I sent you something on the 702.
00:18:23.100 It's designed for foreign. 0.99
00:18:24.800 It's designed for foreign communications related to terrorists and saboteurs and people conducting intelligence against the United States and counterintelligence issues.
00:18:35.640 It's foreign. 1.00
00:18:37.060 That's what, you know, FISA, that first F in FISA is foreign.
00:18:40.900 It's not, it's not DISA, domestic.
00:18:44.660 It's foreign. 1.00
00:18:46.160 So, but it's been turned against the American people and they're lying.
00:18:52.340 They said, you know, they have a, oh, I don't know, that supposedly the 278,000 abuses they've come across.
00:18:59.860 Well, that's nonsense too.
00:19:01.460 That first of all, they're doing it on everyone.
00:19:03.900 And those numbers are probably the targeted numbers that they're pulling out of databases.
00:19:09.020 And I'll bet there are 10 to 100 times more in that abuse arena because there's no pushback.
00:19:16.720 The intelligence community has to report on themselves.
00:19:20.300 So why would they tell the truth?
00:19:22.960 Yeah, why would they tell the truth?
00:19:25.340 Because they're in service to the nation, but no longer.
00:19:29.660 The nation is actually subservient to our intelligence agencies, and no one wants to acknowledge that reality.
00:19:37.840 And it makes liars out of everyone who say that, you know, the U.S. government was unaware that the Chinese government was buying farmland
00:19:48.380 and taking up positions strategically close and proximate to our most sensitive Air Force base, missile bases around the country.
00:19:59.740 Everything is known by the intelligence agencies.
00:20:06.200 And therefore, you have to wonder, is it because they can't bring discrete judgment to all of that data and information?
00:20:14.860 Or is it because what is happening is precisely what they want to happen?
00:20:20.700 Your best guess.
00:20:21.680 That's a good question.
00:20:22.740 My best guess, it's a bit of both.
00:20:25.600 In some cases, you know, if, for instance, a foreign nation were to, like, make a whole lot of, like, political campaign contributions
00:20:34.200 and or to enrich a politician who becomes very prominent and make their family worth tens of millions of dollars,
00:20:40.380 and that politician becomes in a prominent position of power to be able to turn a blind eye to what communist China is doing domestically in our country,
00:20:49.300 then you have to wonder if that's intentional.
00:20:52.160 Then other aspects of that question are, are we collecting so much data that we've created a Mount Everest of, basically, a straw?
00:21:02.820 Well, and ultimately, there's a few needles in there, but it's going to be impossible to find it.
00:21:08.920 So I think the question, the answer is a little bit of both.
00:21:11.720 Not that they could possibly have a chief executive be bought off by a foreign nation, of course.
00:21:19.060 And we don't even need NSA to know that.
00:21:21.520 It seems clumsy enough.
00:21:24.020 What we really need is ineptitude on the part of the perpetrators so that we can actually see what's happening.
00:21:30.640 We're deeply reliant on limited intellects in the perp class.
00:21:37.500 You know, as I sit here, Russ, thinking about all of this, it's appalling to think that there is a great lie in the country,
00:21:46.880 and that lie is that we are a nation requiring in our government the consent of the governed.
00:21:53.260 There is no way in the world that that's what's occurring in this country right now.
00:21:58.720 We're going to take up that issue as we continue our conversation with Russ Tice.
00:22:02.820 Stay with us.
00:22:03.380 We'll be right back.
00:22:09.880 We're back now with Russ Tice.
00:22:12.220 Russ, let's go to that issue.
00:22:14.720 Just how free is America?
00:22:18.120 Just how much liberty do we truly have?
00:22:21.080 And how much of what is a federal government that is run by the deep state and the Marxist dems right now,
00:22:29.000 how much of it is just simply a mirage, simply hallucination on the part of the governed?
00:22:38.660 Well, I believe that they have a frame of information that you're allowed to see and things that you're allowed to believe.
00:22:48.160 And within that framework, you're fine.
00:22:50.500 But once you broaden out beyond that and you start to think for yourself and become a free thinker, then you're in trouble.
00:22:57.680 You know, now we're in the Orwellian world where, you know, if you're not talking, you know, the new speak and the proles are getting out of control,
00:23:07.540 then ultimately you've got some issues and you've got somebody there to, you know, to ultimately, I mean,
00:23:17.380 they just put someone in jail for like 18 years for basically, you know, thinking that the United States government is out of control.
00:23:27.960 And then we have people that go around, you know, trying to kill people in metro stations and they get slaps on the wrist.
00:23:37.840 What the hell is going on in this country?
00:23:39.600 I mean, the people that are running the show are profligates and the politicians, I think, are obsequious to the police state
00:23:52.660 and the intelligence community that's truly running the show and telling us, you know,
00:23:57.260 they'll tell us how much freedom we're allowed to have, basically.
00:23:59.540 Well, Jack Dorsey coming out with a tweet last week talking about he agrees with JFK that we should just simply get rid of the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA
00:24:19.440 and put up a picture of JFK with his what appeared to be a random tweet,
00:24:25.400 but not so random because that is a very deep issue right now confronting this nation,
00:24:31.560 and no one is speaking straightforwardly about it.
00:24:36.860 Well, there are a few.
00:24:39.080 Besides Robert F. Kennedy Jr., which was the premise for that seemingly random tweet from Dorsey.
00:24:50.060 Well, I think President Trump has said, look, you know, if I get back in there, I'm going to shake the treat like nobody's ever shaken it.
00:24:59.960 I think he's been a little bit, you know, vague on exactly, but I think he's kind of insinuating that it's the same sort of response.
00:25:09.980 After the Bay of Pigs, President Kennedy, you know, who was pretty ticked off at the CIA,
00:25:17.740 that basically said he was going to tear the CIA into a thousand pieces and throw it to the wind,
00:25:23.560 and now this is not right to say the same thing.
00:25:29.020 And, you know, not that I'm going to say that there was a conspiracy what happened in Dallas to President Kennedy,
00:25:37.520 but we know what happened to President Kennedy.
00:25:40.280 So it's the police, the deep state, I believe, will do anything in their power to make sure that they exist.
00:25:53.880 And they consider it, I think they consider President Trump a huge existential threat.
00:25:58.960 Yeah, I think you're right.
00:26:00.180 He also had ordered a lot to do with the Russia collusion hoax, the crossfire hurricane, all of the frame up.
00:26:11.280 He ordered the deep state to do that, and he was blocked.
00:26:15.840 They simply ignored his direct order to do that.
00:26:19.900 So to temper that, there is both his reluctance, for whatever reason at that time, to release the JFK files,
00:26:31.000 but there is also sufficient power within the deep state, the point being that they can block a presidential executive order.
00:26:40.140 Well, I believe part of the problem there was President Trump was naive when he first came into office,
00:26:44.520 and he didn't understand how deep this threat came, and he started putting people in the power that smiled and said how wonderful he was,
00:26:55.340 and these people were vipers at his feet waiting to pounce.
00:27:00.360 You know, the director of CIA, I mean, she was involved in making sure that that information towards the –
00:27:08.520 you know, when he made that order, they made sure it didn't come out, and so was the director of the FBI.
00:27:15.400 So – and then, I mean, you had people like Brenner in there, and –
00:27:19.520 I mean, not Brenner, the –
00:27:21.020 Brennan.
00:27:21.760 The mustache guy.
00:27:23.780 John Bolton.
00:27:24.900 And it's just –
00:27:27.300 In my opinion, I would love to see President Clinton –
00:27:30.340 I mean, President Trump back in power,
00:27:33.400 but he's got to find the right people and make sure that he doesn't have, you know,
00:27:40.100 the vipers waiting to pounce and put their fangs into him when the right time comes,
00:27:45.780 and that's what – that's the kind of people he had.
00:27:49.680 But I think he's learned his lesson now.
00:27:53.860 He knows what he's up against now.
00:27:55.340 I don't know how you break through the corruption and the monster that we have created in our federal government.
00:28:05.800 Well, the first thing you need to do is delete some of these agencies that are problems.
00:28:11.240 Some of them need to be destroyed and rebuilt like a phoenix from the ashes.
00:28:15.620 I certainly believe the FBI is one of those agencies that has to be destroyed and rebuilt,
00:28:19.720 and or the necessary functions of that agency be put with the federal marshal service or something like that.
00:28:27.820 NSA needs to be decapitated and ultimately focused, once again, only on their mission of foreign intelligence.
00:28:37.460 And as far as finding the right people, he needs to find those that are talking out now,
00:28:42.500 and he needs to, you know, find those willing to help him.
00:28:46.520 And then he needs to ask those, you know, who are the people that are like-minded like you,
00:28:51.180 that believe in liberty and the Constitution?
00:28:53.900 And then hire as many of those folks as he can that are, you know, the establishment.
00:29:01.800 Oh, look, I have a degree from Yale and, you know, this and that.
00:29:06.040 But, you know, it's a swamp dweller that those people, like all the SCSs in all of these agencies, 0.95
00:29:14.360 all the senior executive service people, they need to be fired on day one, as far as I'm concerned.
00:29:20.800 Every single one of them.
00:29:23.680 And, yes, he's going to have a task to find the right people to help him out.
00:29:28.880 That's going to be a tough chore.
00:29:30.720 And particularly a tough chore when his own party doesn't support him and the rhinos don't support him. 0.89
00:29:38.980 We have a classic fascist structure in this country now that is business aligning with government.
00:29:45.060 The Marxist Dems aligned with academia, with our universities and colleges, our public schools, K through 12,
00:29:56.280 indoctrinating and indoctrinating and indoctrinating while parents and families are their targets day in and day out.
00:30:04.740 The American people right now are under assault as they've never been before.
00:30:09.540 Our culture, our heritage, and our constitutional republic itself.
00:30:16.960 And I thank you for bringing some considerable light to the reality of what does exist within not only the intelligence agencies,
00:30:24.580 but the deep state itself within our federal government and all that we have to overcome to really, truly restore liberty to the American way.
00:30:36.120 We always give you the last word, Russ, so take it away.
00:30:39.740 Your concluding thoughts.
00:30:41.860 Well, it's a bit depressing what you put it, Lou.
00:30:44.840 So, but, you know, and some of us, some of us have stood in the past, like Ligonitis, and we've fallen at Thermopylae.
00:30:54.440 But, and you think this may be a Sisyphusian, you know, task to get that boulder up on top of that ridge,
00:31:01.820 and we keep pushing and it keeps falling back down.
00:31:04.640 But I believe that we can still save this.
00:31:08.660 I believe we need the right guy at the helm.
00:31:11.680 And I think that guy exists.
00:31:15.440 And we need to just keep pushing.
00:31:19.140 And ultimately, the people themselves are starting to see what's happening here.
00:31:24.860 Even with the deep state establishment and corporate press that tries to keep people ignorant,
00:31:31.900 people are starting to wake up.
00:31:33.360 And I think we're going to ultimately succeed and bring our constitutional republic back in order.
00:31:40.080 Thank you, Russ Tice.
00:31:41.400 Russ Tice, a great American.
00:31:43.240 A regular contributor to the show as well.
00:31:45.760 Thanks, everybody.
00:31:46.620 Here tomorrow, Attorney Kevin Evans.
00:31:48.940 He's been seeking the truth about Biden corruption since the election of 2020.
00:31:54.620 And in that time, he's learned the FBI has hundreds of documents that he's been seeking.
00:32:00.620 But they're fighting him every step of the way.
00:32:03.160 A judge this month decides if Evans and the American people win or will it be the deep state and the family they protect.
00:32:12.940 Please join us here tomorrow.
00:32:14.780 Till then, God bless you and God bless America.
00:32:17.880 Let's go.
00:32:33.720 Mm.