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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being here. Great

00:01:27.460 to have you with us. Accountability is on the horizon for Marxist-run colleges and universities 0.78

00:01:33.920 in this country at long last. University of Pennsylvania President Liz McGill resigned after

00:01:40.580 her failure to condemn anti-Semitism on the campus of UPenn. McGill faced pressure to resign after she

00:01:48.320 ducked and dodged questions for some reason about anti-Semitism on her campus during a hearing on

00:01:55.420 Capitol Hill last week. UPenn also hit by the withdrawal of a $100 million donation from

00:02:01.700 billionaire Ross Stephen. Take a listen to the exchange between now former President McGill

00:02:07.380 and Congressman Elise Stefanik that costs McGill and Penn.

00:02:12.620 Ms. McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct? Yes or no?

00:02:25.200 If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment. Yes. I am asking, specifically calling

00:02:31.720 for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment? If it is directed and severe

00:02:40.180 or pervasive, it is harassment. So the answer is yes. It is a context-dependent decision, Congresswoman.

00:02:46.720 It's a context-dependent decision. That's your testimony today. Calling for the genocide of Jews 0.99

00:02:51.620 is depending upon the context. That is not bullying or harassment. This is the easiest question to

00:02:58.400 answer. Yes, Ms. McGill. So is your testimony that you will not answer yes? If it is, if the speech

00:03:08.220 becomes conduct, it can be harassment. Yes. Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?

00:03:15.080 The speech is not harassment? This is unacceptable, Ms. McGill. I'm going to give you one more

00:03:21.100 opportunity for the world to see your answer. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's

00:03:29.280 code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment? Yes or no?

00:03:35.980 It can be harassment. The answer is yes. A development in the Biden scandal, the National

00:03:43.100 Archive set to divulge 62,000 Biden records to investigators, including alias emails that Joe

00:03:50.920 Biden used as vice president. The records could provide House investigators with additional evidence

00:03:57.040 of Biden's involvement in his family's influence-peddling operation. The release comes at a highly troubling

00:04:04.020 time for the Bidens. Joe Biden hitting all-time lows in the latest polling as cognitive decline

00:04:10.040 appears to be accelerating. And, of course, Hunter indicted on nine tax charges in California as part of

00:04:17.500 the special counsel investigation into the business dealings of the Bidens. Hunter now faces three

00:04:23.980 felonies, six misdemeanors. Those are in addition to federal firearms charges in Delaware. Hunter faces for

00:04:30.700 lying on a gun application about his drug usage. Ousted speaker and soon-to-be retired Kevin McCarthy made an

00:04:38.240 appearance Sunday on the talk shows ask if he supports President Trump. He finally gave an answer to the question

00:04:44.940 that he had refused to answer for two years. Will Donald Trump be the nominee? Yes. And the Republican Party? Yes.

00:04:52.360 And if Biden stays as the nominee for the Democrats, I believe Donald Trump will win.

00:04:58.400 I believe the Republicans will gain more seats in the House and the Republicans will win the Senate.

00:05:02.180 Can he count on your support? Yes.

00:05:03.820 That's an endorsement? I will support the president. I will support President Trump.

00:05:09.020 Would you be willing to serve in a Trump cabinet?

00:05:11.380 In the right position. Look, if I'm the best person for the job, yes. Look, I've worked with

00:05:17.440 President Trump on a lot of policies. We work together to win the majority. But we also have

00:05:23.220 a relationship where we're very honest with one another. Sounds like quid pro quo swamp style,

00:05:28.940 doesn't it? Our guest today is podcaster, bestselling author, political strategist,

00:05:35.380 and advisor to President Trump. In my opinion, one of the best GOP strategists. He's Roger Stone,

00:05:41.640 a great American, one of my favorite great Americans, in fact. Roger, welcome back to the show. And let's

00:05:47.000 start with Kevin McCarthy's sudden endorsement of President Trump as he is departing Congress. Your

00:05:54.380 thoughts? Well, you know, I've known Kevin McCarthy since the young Republican days. It is always clear

00:06:01.500 to me, it was always clear to me that his great interest was always more in power than in principle.

00:06:09.220 I was not happy about his becoming speaker, although I thought it was inevitable. I was fairly shocked

00:06:16.220 that he believed that he could violate everything he agreed to in order to get the votes to become

00:06:23.920 speaker and remain as speaker, as if people were just going to have immediate amnesia about the

00:06:31.760 release of the January 6th defendant tapes, the budgeting process, and the use of continuing resolutions,

00:06:41.060 billions more for Ukraine, slow rolling the Hunter Biden investigation. Once he got power,

00:06:52.020 he acted like a man who would never lose power. And, you know, frankly, I've said this,

00:06:59.140 hats off to Matt Gaetz, who I think stuck to principle at great personal cost to himself,

00:07:05.900 but stuck to what he had said from the beginning about the need for reform in the way the Republican

00:07:16.260 majority in the House works. So it's not surprising that Kevin McCarthy is leaving because he was always

00:07:25.340 interested in power rather than getting anything done. And now it has to be somewhat disheartening to be an

00:07:32.320 ex-speaker to say the least. Now, I'm sure that he is going to try to salve his wounds, many wounds as a result of his

00:07:40.160 experiences as speaker with money. It's it just seems to be the popular pathway for exiting leadership members of

00:07:49.880 either the Senate or the House. I expect that will happen. And I and I have to say, I'm not sorry to see him go.

00:07:58.260 As a matter of fact, I I couldn't imagine that a man could walk into a debt ceiling negotiation with the president of the United States

00:08:06.400 and come out but having negotiated himself out of a debt ceiling. It wasn't even a matter of arithmetic.

00:08:13.540 He just simply caved to the concept even of a debt ceiling. Have you ever seen anything like that?

00:08:20.900 I really haven't. I mean, he was a he just seemed to roll over to Biden on virtually everything.

00:08:28.400 It does point out, however, why we need to have laws that limit members of Congress from going back and retiring

00:08:38.580 and lobbying members of Congress. I mean, you do have that now in the executive branch, which is a good idea,

00:08:46.060 but it needs along with term limits. It needs to be imposed on the legislative branch as well, 0.68

00:08:53.920 because all of these congressmen of both parties, they leave, but they don't really leave.

00:08:59.620 They never go back to Pocatello, in all honesty. They they stay in Washington, D.C.

00:09:05.780 and they you know, and the and the heavy duty special interest grifting begins.

00:09:11.580 And it is it is amazing how much money is involved, how much is changing hands.

00:09:19.360 All of the groups that are combination lobbyists, strategists, and I think in many cases just outright grifters,

00:09:27.540 as you were discussing. I mean, it's a huge, huge industry without really.

00:09:35.300 You know, it's really a substitute for a knowledge base amongst the congressmen and senators.

00:09:40.280 As long as they have their favorite lobbyists and they're in some sort of conduit with them,

00:09:45.580 they'll never have a problem and they'll not have to think very hard about the subject matter of whatever the issue might be.

00:09:52.780 Am I wrong?

00:09:53.680 No, I think you're absolutely right.

00:09:55.040 They don't have to worry about it because the lobbyist has already gotten to their legislative assistant 0.99

00:09:59.680 with the talking points and the bulleted point memo so everybody can go right to show shorthand

00:10:06.240 all the way to the suggested vote.

00:10:10.720 It's I've seen this over many decades in American politics where good men and women go to Washington,

00:10:18.060 you know, as principal conservatives, go there to get something done,

00:10:23.420 but they immediately get caught in the money chase and they immediately understand in order to go to rise in the Congress

00:10:30.420 in terms of your committee assignments, your influence, your power, you have to play the leadership game.

00:10:37.480 So they end up trimming their sails.

00:10:39.840 I mean, I ended up not being a fan of John McCain, but I remember John McCain when he was in the House.

00:10:46.680 You know, he came back as a as a prisoner of war.

00:10:50.740 He did polling in Southern California, Nevada and Colorado to decide where to run for Congress,

00:10:58.280 ultimately landing in Nevada.

00:11:00.180 And in the House, he was a pretty principled Reagan conservative.

00:11:04.040 But over time, all the while claiming to be the guy who decried the role of money in politics,

00:11:11.520 he was the guy pocketing more special interest money for his political exploits than anyone.

00:11:18.220 He ended up being completely and totally swallowed by the swamp and signing on,

00:11:24.260 not with the peace through strength Reagan type conservatives, but signing on with the neocons.

00:11:31.660 It was I think it was a disappointing trajectory for his career.

00:11:36.980 I respect his service to the country.

00:11:38.800 It's not about that.

00:11:40.300 It's about what he became in Washington.

00:11:42.780 Yeah, I concur wholly about John McCain.

00:11:46.740 He could have been so much more.

00:11:48.660 He had he had mentors who could have set him on a better path.

00:11:53.340 And no matter what, you know, it's just a shame that it is the way it ended,

00:11:58.700 particularly with his relationship to the to the national security apparatus that became,

00:12:05.740 I think, a feeding ground for them.

00:12:07.900 And he was part of the menu.

00:12:10.860 Let's let's take a quick break here, if we may, Roger.

00:12:14.180 I want to talk about what happens now.

00:12:18.100 Gavin Newsom gets to hold a special election because McCarthy is the ousted speaker is outed.

00:12:24.280 And away we go.

00:12:26.500 And we have a president who is still under the most intense political persecution that we have ever witnessed in this country.

00:12:34.580 We're coming right back with a great Roger Stone.

00:12:37.200 Stay with us.

00:12:43.500 We're back.

00:12:44.380 We're talking with Roger Stone.

00:12:45.620 And Roger, I'd like to turn to what these latest moves are getting rid of George Santos.

00:12:53.000 And I want to talk to you about the propriety of that and the and the politics of that as well.

00:12:59.160 Now, Kevin McCarthy leaving at the end of the year.

00:13:01.840 The arithmetic is getting, well, more elemental, isn't it?

00:13:06.040 Yeah.

00:13:06.320 And the Republicans only had a five seat majority to begin with.

00:13:10.000 Now, with Mr. Santos leaving and my guest in a special election, particularly former congressman Tom Swasey, who previously held most of that seat, the area that now composes that seat would have to be considered the favorite.

00:13:26.180 Despite the political atmosphere, that would bring your majority to four.

00:13:30.480 I think McCarthy's district, which is basically the Bakersfield area, is pretty reliably Republican.

00:13:38.580 But, you know, one never knows.

00:13:41.080 Your majority could quickly become three.

00:13:44.140 In the case of Santos, I really think I'm not a fan of his, but I do think he's been denied due process.

00:13:50.720 They didn't kick Adam Clayton Powell out of the House until he was convicted of a crime.

00:13:55.160 I think Santos was due his day in court, should not have been expelled until he was convicted.

00:14:02.860 I think his conviction is pretty much of a foregone conclusion based on what I've read.

00:14:08.380 But I still think we rushed him out of the door unnecessarily until he was proven guilty.

00:14:16.440 Yeah, I'm not a person who, well, I didn't pay a lot of attention to him.

00:14:21.580 But I think that he got a he got a bum deal and was treated badly because I thought his votes and his stand with the party while he was there certainly earned him the right to due process.

00:14:34.500 If it's going to be ignored, it shouldn't have been ignored for somebody who was at least trying to be faithful to the party that he was a member of.

00:14:42.340 The Republicans seem to be manic in their desire to to get rid of him.

00:14:47.520 It's really not clear to me why, because, as I mentioned, they don't enjoy a broad majority.

00:14:54.560 I think they may come back to regret this.

00:14:58.340 Recognize now that we'll have a special election for his seat, but the seat will also be up again for contest next November.

00:15:08.100 And those two results are not necessarily the same.

00:15:12.820 New York has a very much of a top down Republican Party, and therefore, essentially, the Republican County Chairman will make this decision, at least in the short term, in terms of who the party nominates for this special election.

00:15:28.160 And we'll have disproportionate influence in who the party nominates for the next November election.

00:15:35.520 When this same seat will be up for a contest yet again, that will not necessarily be the same candidate unless, of course, the Republican wins the special.

00:15:46.780 And all of this, of course, in the hands of a new speaker, Mike Johnson, you're reading how well he's done to this point.

00:15:54.820 Early days, certainly.

00:15:55.740 More mixed than I would have thought. 1.00

00:15:59.620 I initially hailed his elevation because he had been one of the defenders of Donald Trump on the defense team in the Senate, as a member of the House in the impeachment of Trump, which was greatly unjust and unnecessary.

00:16:16.980 And I think clearly a man who is very serious about his faith, which I liked, said that he would release the January 6th government tapes, appears to have at least begun to do that, needs to finish it.

00:16:34.500 We still seem to continue to continue to go back to the same way we do our budgeting, which is disappointing.

00:16:41.820 And he seems to me, although he's I think he's going to, unlike McCarthy, he's going to hold the Democrats up for border funding in return, but seems to be committed to millions, if not billions more for Ukraine.

00:16:55.640 And I'm a little mixed on this because I think he first said we didn't have enough to impeach Joe Biden.

00:17:05.740 Now he seems to have changed his mind, said, well, there is enough to impeach Joe Biden, but we're going to do this, you know, very slowly and deliberately.

00:17:13.680 I'm a little confused by all of that. There's more than enough evidence.

00:17:18.520 There's far more evidence to justify articles of impeachment against Joe Biden today than there ever was to justify articles of impeachment against Donald Trump.

00:17:28.360 Yet Nancy Pelosi and company got that done in five days flat. 0.71

00:17:33.380 Yeah, I just I'm not really clear. I think Comer's doing a good job.

00:17:37.580 He's been very dogged. He keeps digging up more and more bombshells.

00:17:41.920 But Joe Biden's claim that he knew nothing about his son's business and he never profited from it is now quite obviously an enormous lie.

00:17:52.120 And there's more than enough evidence of foreign payments to justify a vote of impeachment.

00:17:57.940 Now, it is conceivable and we would know this.

00:18:01.340 The Speaker Johnson doesn't have the votes in a vote count because of some of your weak need, lily levered, white wine, swilling, country club belonging establishment Republicans who just don't have the guts for this.

00:18:19.640 And the Speaker can only do things for which he can corral the votes.

00:18:24.400 So there's no question that there is a more robust radical caucus that favors impeachment.

00:18:31.840 But I don't know that the Speaker can get the votes.

00:18:34.860 Funny, Nancy Pelosi never had this problem. 1.00

00:18:38.080 It is funny and it is amazing.

00:18:40.420 I think, well, I completely agree with what you're saying about the the appropriators, the what would you what would you call them?

00:18:49.980 The the recalcitrance, the 25 who stood against Jim Jordan and his third round at Speaker.

00:18:58.060 He could have well been the Speaker had it not been for the pettiness of that group.

00:19:01.840 And and what I suspect is also a craven corruption on the part of many of them.

00:19:08.480 And I'm talking about the appropriators, not all of them, but some of them.

00:19:12.960 And so there there is that he has to contend with as well.

00:19:18.060 And like you, I heard the man say we don't have the evidence at this moment, but we will.

00:19:24.520 But we haven't.

00:19:25.800 And now we're talking about what will be talking with Jim Jordan, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

00:19:31.960 He says that this will they vote on formalizing the inquiry will come next week.

00:19:37.180 I can't imagine anyone, any reasonable man or woman not understanding what the evidence is.

00:19:43.800 It is it's in your face.

00:19:46.180 It is weighty.

00:19:47.720 It is more than sufficient to bring impeachment.

00:19:51.420 And I don't know what standard these Republicans that I'm talking about, Brie Johnson, as well as now.

00:19:58.820 What standard do they repair to?

00:20:01.000 Do they want to be holiest of holy or do they want to just simply represent the American people?

00:20:07.160 And do the right thing.

00:20:08.580 I think it's a straightforward choice.

00:20:10.800 They seem to think not.

00:20:11.960 Your thoughts.

00:20:13.240 Well, first of all, this there was no intermediary step for Nancy Pelosi.

00:20:17.860 They didn't open an inquiry and then vote articles of impeachment.

00:20:20.940 They just voted articles of impeachment.

00:20:23.520 I don't understand why House Republicans can't do this.

00:20:25.780 Now, I think you and I have an advantage in that we read The New York Post and The New York Post

00:20:31.240 has done a particularly good job of covering the Hunter Biden exploits and what the House committee have uncovered.

00:20:39.620 That's not true of the national media.

00:20:41.660 So I can see how there is an impression in the country that there's much less on the table than there has been.

00:20:49.480 Well, that's, again, an absolute concurrence.

00:20:54.640 We're talking with Roger Stone.

00:20:56.340 We're going to take a quick break.

00:20:57.560 We'll be right back.

00:20:59.160 And we're going to take up, well, our favorite president, President Donald Trump.

00:21:04.960 You know, he's actually, frankly, I think I've decided he's also my very favorite candidate.

00:21:12.660 We'll be talking with Roger Stone as we continue.

00:21:15.200 Stay with us.

00:21:19.480 We're back now with Roger Stone, and we're going to take up President Trump and the man's remarkable strength

00:21:29.540 and perseverance and righteousness as he contends with the worst political persecution in history.

00:21:37.120 I do want to just take a moment here, Roger, to ask your views on the 702, Section 702 of the FISA

00:21:44.860 and its reauthorization, which seems to be a foregone conclusion.

00:21:50.920 I can't understand for the life of me why this corrupt government, this corrupt administration,

00:21:58.060 these corrupt agencies and the deep state are getting exactly what they asked for to be further corrupt

00:22:05.720 and act against the interests of the Republicans, conservatives and American citizens.

00:22:10.340 Look, we saw the abuse and the political use of the FISA warrants against Donald Trump.

00:22:17.320 The day that Donald Trump was sworn in as president, there was a front page story in the New York Times

00:22:23.860 that said I was among four people under government surveillance for my contacts with the Russians.

00:22:30.980 There's only one problem, Lou.

00:22:32.660 I never had any contacts with any Russians.

00:22:34.640 The New York Times reporter to this day refuses to retract that story.

00:22:40.560 They insist that they had multiple sources that said that Carter Page, Paul Manafort, myself were under surveillance.

00:22:50.340 And when I went to trial, when I was framed for lying under oath about Russian collusion,

00:22:57.840 it never actually happened, the government insisted that there was no evidence that I had been under surveillance,

00:23:05.520 despite the fact that the Times insisted that it was.

00:23:08.700 Here's the point.

00:23:09.480 If it can happen to me, it can happen to you.

00:23:12.640 And in fact, the FBI has admitted that there were as many as 278,000 warrantless surveillances of American citizens.

00:23:23.620 This is part and parcel of a government that is seeking to jail its principal political opponent, Donald Trump, and his supporters,

00:23:34.760 that is subpoenaing social media records so they can see who follows and who retweets and who reposts

00:23:43.040 and who comments on their chief political opponents on social media.

00:23:47.400 This is a government that is leaning on social media companies to censor the political opinions of anyone they don't agree with.

00:23:56.380 This is an administration that is now going to the FCC to pass regulations that allow them to regulate the Internet at its source.

00:24:07.340 So if we can no longer lean on the social media companies because we've been outed over what we did at Twitter,

00:24:13.860 we'll now just go above them so that through the FCC we can censor what's on the Internet.

00:24:21.760 The same people classifying parents who attend school board meetings because they're concerned about the content of the curriculum

00:24:28.900 being taught to their children as domestic terrorists,

00:24:32.180 harassing those who support the right to life while turning a blind eye to those who burned down half the country in BLM or Antifa. 0.54

00:24:42.280 I mean, they want to talk.

00:24:43.560 They say Trump is going to be a dictator.

00:24:45.540 Trump is going to be an authoritarian.

00:24:47.480 This is Alinskyism.

00:24:49.840 They're accusing Donald Trump of potentially doing in the future that that they are exactly doing precisely today.

00:24:58.340 It's shocking.

00:24:59.420 It is shocking.

00:25:01.040 It's and it's institutionalized this level of opposition projection.

00:25:08.980 It's become a laughable tactic and the go to a go to gambit on their part every time.

00:25:17.140 Well, let's talk about quickly.

00:25:18.980 President Trump talked with him.

00:25:21.840 I guess it was a week, week and a half ago.

00:25:25.160 The man is is charged up.

00:25:27.520 He I know you speak with him regularly.

00:25:30.100 He strikes me as a man with not a trouble in the world.

00:25:34.160 He's a man with great cares because he cares greatly about this country.

00:25:38.040 And it's in the future of all Americans.

00:25:41.780 Your sense right now of how well the left have organized their their persecution of him.

00:25:49.900 I see Fannie Willis with all sorts of troubles in Fulton County. 1.00

00:25:54.200 I New York looks like it's just a complete joke.

00:25:57.780 It's going to whatever they do.

00:25:59.320 It is to be mindless.

00:26:01.860 And I cannot understand why there isn't some sort of a pellet relief available to the president, whether it be his business interest case or whether it be the Letitia James nonsense.

00:26:15.620 I think the president, first of all, you're right about his mood and his and his attitude.

00:26:22.140 I saw him last Friday night and he's he's lost a little weight.

00:26:26.040 He looks great.

00:26:27.140 He's in a superb mood.

00:26:28.600 He's optimistic.

00:26:29.420 He's upbeat.

00:26:30.680 He's a little angry, but I think he has every right to be angry.

00:26:34.040 But this, you know, he's he's resolute.

00:26:37.340 He's determined.

00:26:38.480 And above all, Lou, he's exceedingly confident about ultimate victory.

00:26:42.640 It's it is really inspiring.

00:26:45.620 I think that that he's winning.

00:26:49.720 The war in terms of the public relations and public attitudes surrounding his various prosecutions, but that's because they are all so ridiculously transparent, whether he will win in court at the end of the day in very stacked.

00:27:06.640 And I think biased proceedings, particularly in D.C., I have a little experience in that particular meat grinder. 0.95

00:27:12.320 Yes, you know, that's a different question.

00:27:15.140 But the fact that he's leading Biden now in all of the swing states and continuing to lead him nationally shows that everything they're doing to him is transparent to the American people.

00:27:27.160 People are seeing through it.

00:27:29.520 What's his crime?

00:27:30.640 What did he steal?

00:27:31.560 He didn't steal anything.

00:27:33.080 He questioned the outcome of an election.

00:27:35.600 If that were a crime, well, then Hillary Clinton should be in prison. 1.00

00:27:38.880 John Podesta should be in prison.

00:27:40.720 Howard Dean should be in prison.

00:27:41.980 Stacey Abrams would be in prison.

00:27:44.040 It's not a crime.

00:27:45.160 He's a right to do that.

00:27:46.800 But they've criminalized, you know, constitutionally protected political activity and tried to make it a crime.

00:27:54.800 Here's the fundamental question.

00:27:56.300 In all of these trials where the election is the principal issue, will he be allowed by the judges to enter in his defense proof that he won the election?

00:28:08.160 Because it undermines the underlying premise of the cases against him.

00:28:13.660 If he is, then it will be the first time in any court where the merits of that argument will be heard. 0.83

00:28:21.780 I watched this great interview with Bill Maher, who's kind of a pompous ass, and Oliver Stone.

00:28:29.500 And Maher, who's very funny when he's working with a phalanx of comedy writers, but not so funny when he's on his own two feet, 0.89

00:28:37.620 he repeats this canard that 63 courts rejected the claim that the election was stolen.

00:28:44.360 No, sorry, Bill.

00:28:46.140 63 courts refused to hear the merits for purposes of standing.

00:28:50.980 No court has weighed the actual evidence of fraud or discrepancies or inconsistencies and ruled on it.

00:29:00.840 So the real question is, will the judges, particularly in Atlanta and in D.C., allow Trump to enter as a part of his defense proof that the election was, in fact, not on the up and up?

00:29:13.160 If they do, then I think that he comes out OK at the end of the day, even if he is ultimately convicted.

00:29:22.040 Finally, he will get his day in court on the question of the election.

00:29:25.380 On the other hand, since I was not allowed at my trial to use expert witnesses and forensic evidence to prove that no one ever hacked the DNC, never mind the Russians,

00:29:36.440 I don't have a high degree of of confidence that Trump will be able to will be allowed to introduce in his defense the very best possible defense,

00:29:48.920 which undermines their entire case, i.e. proving that the last election was indeed stolen.

00:29:55.320 And and to that point, there is, I think, a very hopeful sign in full.

00:30:01.660 Well, I and I won't get carried away with what I would would prefer not become mass optimism about this.

00:30:08.460 But Amy Totenberg, the federal judge there on a separate case, will be hearing evidence against electronic voting machines.

00:30:19.660 And they have found serious irregularities.

00:30:23.400 And there will be a ruling in January, says a federal judge.

00:30:27.580 That could be that could be a moment of extraordinary reversals for the for the left, because it would be it might be the thread that would pull all of this, unwind all of this.

00:30:43.740 But as I said, I'm I'm hopeful, but not optimistic.

00:30:48.040 Roger Stone, thanks for being with us.

00:30:49.660 You are a great American, a great friend and and a great supporter of the president.

00:30:55.860 All good things to me.

00:30:57.440 And thank you for being with us here today.

00:30:59.540 God bless you.

00:31:00.700 Thank you, Lou.

00:31:01.280 And God bless you.

00:31:02.800 Thanks, everybody, for being with us here today.

00:31:04.740 Our guests tomorrow on The Great America Show, Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:31:08.120 We'll be talking about why in the world the Congress would renew the FISA 702 spy on your favorite American renewal.

00:31:17.360 What in the world is the GOP doing?

00:31:20.580 We'll be taking that up.

00:31:21.760 Please join us.

00:31:22.540 Please join us each and every day on The Great America Show.

00:31:25.480 Thank you, everybody.

00:31:26.520 God bless you.

00:31:27.600 And may God bless America.

The Great America Show - December 11, 2023

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