🚨STUNNING ARRESTS Made in D.C & NJ l New Pope Takes Stage LIVE FROM VATICAN in First appearance!
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Rachel Maddow's ratings drop 53% in a single day, Ed Martin gets spit on by a Marxist protestor, and Dylan Mulvaney talks about the Versace Versace ad campaign, and much, much more!
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Great America Show. It's great to have you with us on this
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Friday night here in America or wherever you may be joining from abroad. We appreciate
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you spending part of your Friday night with us when we know there's so many other places
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you can be. We truly appreciate you being here, getting a head start to your weekend,
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Mother's Day weekend. I want to wish you a happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out
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there. You guys don't truly know how much we appreciate you, whether we show it or not.
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But we're not where we are today without you guys being mothers. So happy Mother's Day
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to all the wonderful mothers out there, even the not so wonderful mothers. You guys did a good
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service for this country, bringing children into it in a time where there's not too many children
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being brought into the country. That's a discussion for a different day. Let's get into some news of
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the day. Yesterday, we brought you the story about D.C. U.S. Attorney Ed Martin. He's going to be
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departing in the next few days. Judge Jeanine Pirro is going to be taking over. But that's not
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the story. Not the story about Tom Tillis being the single factor and why Ed Martin won't be the
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next D.C. U.S. Attorney, that rhino. That's not the story. The story is Ed Martin outside of his
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office getting spit on by a radical Marxist protester. Take a listen.
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Did she just call him a disgusting man as she hocked a loogie on him?
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What kind of woman does that? What kind of human being does that? Who teaches you to do that? That's
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reprehensible and disgusting. But we've got some good news because truth, justice, and the American way,
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in my opinion, always prevails among all things. She's been identified and she's been arrested by
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U.S. D.C. law enforcement. She's now in custody. The name and her details will be released shortly.
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We'll bring those to you as soon as we get them. But good on the D.C. police for doing probably the
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first good thing and arresting her since January 6th, you know, when they when they did a great job.
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Once again, a story for a different day. Bad news for the Marxist media, as we tell you often here.
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But we've got particularly bad news for Jen Psaki and MSDNC, as I like to call it.
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She's taken over a new show, a 9 p.m. show on MSDNC from Tuesday to Friday for Rachel Maddow,
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where she only does a Monday show. According to the Nielsen ratings, she shed a staggering 53 percent
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in its demo viewers compared to the first episode just one day prior. She lost almost 67 percent of
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viewers between the ages of 18 to 49. When she debuted her first episode on Tuesday, she debuted
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with 1.2 million viewers, 139,000 in the advertising. When they say demo, that's the
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the the number that advertisers use when they buy advertising. You tell them what your numbers are
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on your demo, and that's what they pay based on because that's what their their target audience is.
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So 139,000 in her demo of 25 to 54. Her second episode on Wednesday plummeted to just over a million
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viewers, 65,000 in the key demo. That is embarrassing, folks. That is embarrassing because
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that's like I said, that's how you you pay for your show. That's how you you make your money.
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That's how you sell advertising. So Jen Psaki doesn't look like she's going to have a very long career
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over at MSNBC unless they're in favor of bleeding money, which is also possible. So I won't speak
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too soon. Right. Dylan Mulvaney, you folks may remember that name. That's the gentleman who ran
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that Bud Light campaign that absolutely spiraled the company into the ground, destroying it.
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Absolutely destroying it. Well, Dylan Mulvaney, he's back. We'll play the video for you here.
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I think this is the best I've ever looked. Pretty sure. I'm pretty sure headed to a Versace event.
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And yeah, I think I think this is it. Right. OK. OK. Love you.
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For a second, I thought that was Caitlin Collins from CNN. Well, Versace is a new company that she's
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spokesman in and representing. So if you own any stock of Versace, you can know that that's the
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next company that's probably going to go down the tubes. Truly remarkable that these people didn't
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learn their lesson from Bud Light. But heck, maybe it works for Versace. Maybe the people who wear
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Versace are in favor of transgenders. Who knows? Very interesting. This week, Newark Airport,
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New Jersey facing its second total outage in just a week. Systems shutting down for 90 seconds.
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Radar and comms communications for the pilot to air traffic control tower. The Trump administration
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has been taking the blame or been getting blamed for every single incident that's happened over
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the last few months since he's taken office. The plane crash in D.C., of course, was his fault that
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the female crashed into that passenger American Airlines plane. Of course, Donald Trump's fault.
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The rest of them, all Donald Trump's fault. But the numbers show that aircraft incidences and
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crashes are down from the same point where we were last year. But that's besides the fact,
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because Donald Trump's in office. So we'll just blame him for everything. It's the easy thing to do.
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But what a lot of people don't realize is the systems that are being used are ancient.
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Sean Duffy addressed it yesterday on Fox News. Take a listen.
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The systems were developed when Elvis was a star. Rolling Stones were a star. When Duran Duran was making
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music. I mean, we go back to the 60s and 70s. We laid out a lot of the infrastructure. It looks like
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it was from the movie War Games or Apollo 13. It looks like equipment from the movie sets for those
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movies. It looks like we got the the infrastructure from the Smithsonian. But it's not. It's the equipment
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that we use in American air traffic control towers. Really, really old. It all has to be brand new,
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state of the art. And, you know, with regard to air traffic controllers, we're 3,000 controllers short.
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They didn't stand up to school during covid. And as controllers were retiring, they didn't have a
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pipeline of new controllers coming in through the academy. So we've done two things. Air traffic
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controllers who can retire after 25 years of service, we're going to pay them a bonus. We're
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going to ask them to stay past their retirement date to serve their country. I think we get a lot
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of controllers to do that. But then we're going to expand the pipeline at our academy in Oklahoma City
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to get the best and the brightest air traffic controllers through that system and trained up.
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And then, you know, I think it's going to take us, you know, a year to three years to get fully
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staffed. Here's an example. I can take one of the most complicated air systems, say, like D.C.,
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the Potomac TRACON around Washington, D.C., take a controller from there and move them to New York.
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It takes them a year to get trained up on that airspace. So you just can't move controllers around.
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They have to be trained in the airspace in which they work. And that takes time. And so
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we're navigating the mess that was left to us. We're hiring more air traffic controllers.
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We're fixing the system. But again, it's going to take time.
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I think he was a little conservative there on that one year transition training period. It's not that
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long. Just a different airspace for the controllers to learn. Let me explain to you guys what happened,
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because it's not talked about very often. Back in around 2012, 2013, when I was in aeronautical
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school, back when President Barack Hussein Obama was president, the FAA decided to get rid of all
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regulations to become an air traffic controller. So now you had kids who were in school,
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kids that I went to school with, some of my fraternity brothers, who went to school to be air
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traffic controllers. And they were told as they were graduating or two years into a degree or three
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years into a degree, that they no longer needed their college degree. And in fact, they wouldn't
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be placed in preferential treatment or in front of the line because of already being qualified.
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They're going to have to get in the line like everybody else because they want to take people
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from all places, whether you worked at McDonald's or Apple, wherever you worked, everyone was in
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line. Just like if you were taking a police officer's test, everyone was in line regardless of what
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your qualifications were. So it was under Barack Hussein Obama that they decided to do it. So think
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about how many people that dissuaded from going to school to be air traffic controllers because
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they were told you're just going to get on the line like everyone else. It doesn't matter how
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qualified you are. It doesn't matter where you went to college. It doesn't matter how well you
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went to college because we're taking people off the street. So we could thank Barack Hussein Obama
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for that. It's a thing that a lot of people don't talk about, not covered anywhere in the
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mainstream media, anywhere in the news. Folks, we have some information also out of New Jersey
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tonight, not just that air traffic incident. The mayor of Newark, New Jersey, Ross Baraka has been
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arrested, being charged with committing trespassing, ignoring multiple warnings from
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Homeland Security investigators to remove himself from an ICE detention center in Newark, New Jersey
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this afternoon. He has willingly chose to disregard the law that will not be stood for in this state.
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He has been taken into custody. No one is above the law. That's from Alina Habba, the attorney for New
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Jersey, the U.S. attorney for New Jersey. Great on Alina. Truth, justice in the American way, folks.
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They said retribution was coming, but these Democrats do it to themselves. I don't believe that this is
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retribution by any stretch of the imagination. These Marxist Dems do it to themselves. Folks, today was the
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first day with the Pope, Pope Leo XIV on the new job, giving a homily to his fellow cardinals,
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instilling that there's lack of faith in the Catholic Church right now, and that we need to
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reinstill that into the Catholic Church. Robert Prevost, who's the new Pope, 267th Pope of the Church.
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So, how did the Catholic Church get to where they were, where they are today, where people are tuned
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out? Well, I think it has something to do with the last 10 years of Pope Francis allowing
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transgenders into the Church, drifting away from traditional marriage between a man and a woman,
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allowing all these woke policies to take over the Vatican, to take over the Catholic Church,
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deciding they were going to get involved in border situations, immigration crises,
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everything from A to Z, when the Catholic Church should have just been focused on recruiting,
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keeping pedophilia out of their churches, and all things regarding the Catholic Church. So,
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we wish Prevost, Pope Leo, the very best, and we hope that he decides to get the Catholic Church
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out of politics and get back to where it belongs, preaching the word of the Lord and in faith.
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Folks, our guest today is our good friend, the host of The Stone Zone, the great Roger Stone.
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There's so much to talk about in the times of today, the political climate we're in,
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and all that's going on. Our weekly guest, the great Roger Stone.
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Roger, as always, it's great to talk to you, especially on a Friday. I want to start with,
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I'm going to get to this before you can beat me to it. The tariffs are working so well that we've got
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an American pope now. There's one problem, Roger. You, myself, and 47 are all out of contention,
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although it is an American. Your thoughts, as we've got a new leader of the Catholic Church,
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it's not URI. Yeah, I mean, it's a little early to say. He's described as a centrist. He is a registered
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Republican, but for all we know, he's a Bush Republican. What bothers me, given the previous
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pope, is when the pope is speaking, not in catheter, they're speaking on matters of public
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policy, like, for example, making an agreement with the communist Chinese that they should have
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veto power over who should be the bishops in China, or criticizing Donald Trump's policies
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on illegal immigrants. Well, I think the pope needs to mind his own business. These are not matters
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for him. These are not pastoral, spiritual matters. And in the case of Pope Francis, he was not only
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wrong, but his views were repugnant. Coddling up to communism, bringing those accused of pedophilia,
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like Bishop Cardinal McCarrick, backed into the Vatican as a key advisor, just picking up a few of
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the criticisms. So I think this pope will do great. Stay out of American politics. Why don't you speak
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to spiritual matters? Otherwise, we're really not interested in your views on illegal immigrants.
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You know, the funny, the funny thing, Roger, was during the whole gay marriage fight and Roe v. Wade,
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there was everyone's talking about the separation between church and state. But when it came time to
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talking about American borders, when it came time to talking about American domestic policy, when it
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came time to talking about anything that had to do with America and us keeping the land sovereign,
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Yeah, if it weren't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all.
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Hypocrisy is throughout their entire view. So I actually saw somebody on News Network the other day
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whining about Donald Trump weaponizing the judiciary. Franklin Roosevelt used the IRS to harass his
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political opponents. Jack and Bobby Kennedy were famous for it. Richard Nixon lost the presidency in
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1960 by a hair. It's funny, John. He had a random IRS audit in 1961, 1962, and 1963. It didn't stop until
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Kennedy was brutally murdered. And of course, we know how Barack Obama utilized the IRS to harass his
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political opponents, non-profits that might criticize his policies. And then you have the
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Russian collusion hoax, the greatest single dirty trick in American history, in which the president
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and the vice president, the FBI director, the CIA director engaged in treason, used two pieces of
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completely fraudulent evidence, the so-called Steele dossier, which they knew all the way back to the
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time that corrupt prosecutor Andrew Weissman was the general counsel of the FBI was a fraud.
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And the false claim that the Russians hacked the DNC, of which there is not an iota of evidence,
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because it didn't happen, to try to remove a duly elected president. Yet these people have the audacity
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to whine about Trump weaponizing the judiciary against his political enemies. I'd tell you the
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name of the guy on News Network who said it, but he was such a lightweight, such a non-entity,
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Sounds like Trump in the interview last week. He said, I picked you on CBS because I've never even
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heard of you before. Anyone who disputes what you'd said about Seth Rich and the DNC and WikiLeaks
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in Russia, it's very simple. Tell Pam Bondi and Cash Patel to finally give us that laptop that we've
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been waiting for for years, that a judge in Texas gave permission to attorney Ty Clevenger to turn over
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that years later we still do not have. Roger, why, real quickly, why would Cash Patel and Pam Bondi
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be in favor of protecting Seth Rich, his family, anything like that? Fox News paid out millions
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of dollars in a lawsuit over Seth Rich, yet we still can't get this guy's laptop after a court,
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which the Democrats now all of a sudden are in favor of courts, right, and law and order,
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It is exceedingly perplexing. It's very, very hard to understand why nothing has been done
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to address the greatest single abusive power in American political history. It is, on one hand,
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it's unfortunate that Ed Martin, who I do think has the courage and the integrity to pursue these
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matters, will not be able to do so as the U.S. Attorney for D.C., but he will be able to do so
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as the Associate Attorney General of the United States. And it's interesting, Tom Tillis, the soon
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to be former senator from North Carolina, said that he could support Martin for another job at the
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Justice Department. He just couldn't support him to be U.S. Attorney in D.C. because of Martin's view
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that the January 6th fiasco was a setup, which, of course, it was. Now, this is vitally important.
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If Donald Trump does not demonstrate to every senator that he will take a scalp for those who
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betray him, then they will all feel it's open season. You can cross the most popular Republican
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president in our time. Tillis must be challenged. He must be taken out of public office. It's interesting,
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he has a Letitia James type problems regarding his personal mortgages. I think I see crimes there and
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I'm not even an experienced mortgage investigator, but there's multiple crimes there. Crimes that,
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John, if you or I had signed these documents, these fraudulent documents, we'd be prosecuted like
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I think Letitia James, the New York's Attorney General, is going to and like Senator Tillis should
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be prosecuted. Can you tell us, because I briefly saw that this morning about what's going on with
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Tillis. Obviously, yesterday reports that Big Tish is under federal investigation now by the FBI
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office in North Albany, although it's not clear why it wouldn't be in Virginia as well, because there's
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a mortgage that was taken out in 2023 in Virginia in which she said she lived down there. I'm not taking
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credit for this by any means, Roger. I don't do that. But what's going on with Tillis that he's now
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seems to be in the same racket that she's doing? Well, let's address the Letitia James matter first.
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I mean, for all we know, there are investigations in Virginia. A source told me yesterday that there's
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actually already a grand jury impaneled in Virginia. There were clearly crimes that were committed in
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Virginia. The left hates this idea that you might actually go to a court where the judge isn't in the
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tank and the jury isn't rigged. How about that? Boy, that'd be different. She has serious problems.
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If you want any further proof, she's hired Abby Lowell, considered by many to be the worst attorney
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in America. He did a great job for Hunter Biden. This guy will sign his name to anything. This could
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be actually the public scandal in which he finally gets disbarred once and for all. But this idea
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that he would write to the Justice Department preemptively with a series of falsehoods. No,
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there is no application for a mortgage in which she did not say she was going to owner-occupy the
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property she was buying in Virginia, which is the only way she qualified for the mortgage rate
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that she got. That's what's called a lie. The New York Times just writes it like it's a fact. Okay,
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New York Times, show us that notarized application. It doesn't exist. The application that does
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exist. And by the way, this is only signed after the mortgage has been approved. It's the
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final step before closing. Letitia James very clearly says that she and her niece will occupy
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the property in Virginia as their principal residence, thus making her ineligible to be
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the Attorney General of New York. So that means one of two things are true. She either moved to
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Virginia, which she is ineligible and that office is vacant today, or she lied under oath on that
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document. It's really that simple. But yeah, you're right, John, a Virginia grand jury could probe
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that matter. I suspect at this point, she's probably under investigation in multiple jurisdictions,
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because according to the fact pattern and all of these documents, by the way, all of which are
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public, you can go to whitecollarfraud.com and read it for yourself. It's not conjecture. These
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are not theories. It's all laid out there by a very interesting investigative researcher by the name of
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Sam Antar. I invite folks to check it out on their own. Yeah, I actually spoke to Sam yesterday. He's
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going to be on the show next week. Thank you for that connection. Rogers, by the way,
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like the number one booker for this show. I can't tell you how many people Roger makes come on this
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show. So we appreciate Roger, as always, for that. Tish James was on MSNBC last night. I'm not even
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going to play the clip because Lou used to say, don't carry the water for these Marxist Dems. And
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she's one of them. I refuse to do it. But she's on MSNBC yesterday, Roger, and she's telling
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another no-name host, we were ready on day one to file lawsuits against this administration.
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You would think, Roger, that there comes a certain point, we all, all of us, maybe with
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the exception of you and I, because we're hard-headed, hit a certain point, Roger, where
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we know we're so screwed that we just shut our mouths. This idiot just keeps rambling and
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rambling and rambling. She's got to know that she's down bad right now, but she's not. She's
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at a town hall yesterday, and finally Republicans are waking up and using the playbook of the Dems,
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and we get a heckler up there who tells us she needs to apologize to Donald Trump. Let's
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wrap up with the Tish James topic. Do you think we get an indictment in the next six months?
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Well, John, here's the point, I guess, and that is her vulnerabilities are not just limited
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to serial mortgage fraud. There are at least three women who were sexually harassed by her
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chief of staff. She knew about it. One of them filed a lawsuit. She went to the appeals court,
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all Democrats. They let the lawsuit go forward, but they dismissed the charges against Tish. Those
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charges will end up being reinstated. The other two women, I think, will also bring lawsuits.
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There's a fourth woman who claims that Letitia James herself assaulted her. That woman has now
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passed two polygraph tests. Wow. I suspect that she has much larger problems. Now, correct me if I'm
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wrong, but aren't those the issues under which she removed Andrew Cuomo? Sexual harassment?
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Well, you've got one out of two, right, Roger? The second issue is the issue she tried to remove
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Donald Trump under. So it literally goes to the saying, Roger, do not throw stones when you live
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in Glass House. And Big Tish was living in this big glass house. Now, it seems to me like it's an
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insecurity to her that, you know, you deflect and throw the rocks and duck for cover. But she's
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not exactly a small person to miss. So I want to turn to another Marxist demo Capitol Hill yesterday.
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One final point we have to make is, I'm sure you saw this. So the Democrats in the New York State
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legislature have decided that Big Tish shouldn't have to pay the legal fees to fight over all these
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things that she did on a personal level. These aren't state mortgages that she did that she
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fraudulently dealt with. These are personal mortgages. And but they have now passing legislation
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so that the state taxpayers pick up the bill for her legal fees because Abby Lowell may be
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incompetent, but he's very expensive and corrupt as hell. Another Marxist Demme, Ohio Congresswoman,
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Joyce Betty, was on Capitol Hill this week with Scott Besson. That poor man sat before a committee
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where they had to testify about the budget coming forward. And she was asked about Harriet Tubman
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going on the U.S. currency. Scott Besson didn't know the answer to the question. He's a single person,
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doesn't know the answer to everything. He said, I'll get back to you. I don't know what the hell
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they're putting in the water there, Roger. But this woman went absolutely berserk. Let's take a
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listen to what exactly is going on on Capitol Hill right now, because these Marxists are in shambles.
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In 2016, former Secretary Jack Lew announced that Harriet Tubman was to be the new face
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of the $20 bill. Can you tell me what's the current status of this project?
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No, ma'am, I can't. But my staff will get back to you.
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No, I want you to get back to me. Because, see, there seems to be an issue when it comes
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to things that affect people of color or people who live in poverty, whether it is what you're
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doing with Social Security, what you are doing with restricting funds, the program.
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I'm not a staff person. I'm not asking him to have his staff report to me. So, Mr. Chairman,
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I'm addressing it to you to ask him to respect me. Mr. Chairman, I'm talking to you. I need him
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to address if he will answer me. No, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to stop until you direct him
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The gentlewoman's time has expired. The gentlewoman's time has expired. The gentlewoman
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has offered that she can submit questions for the record. Mr. Chairman, point of order
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to you. I will not stop. I will not be silenced until you direct him to answer.
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The gentlewoman is not offering an appropriate parliamentary inquiry. Does the gentlewoman
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As a member of the United States Congress addressing the secretary, I am asking you to
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rule on asking this hostile witness to direct his response to me versus having him tell me
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that his staff will respond to me. My staff person didn't.
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In all honesty, had I been the chairman, had I been the chairman, I would have had the sergeant
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of arms, remove her, quite simply, which he has the authority to do. He asked her nicely
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four times to stop. Her time was over. But she's grandstanding because she's got to get reelected.
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And she somehow thought that this was going to help her do that. It's a good thing for her
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that there is no IQ test involved as a requirement to be a member of Congress. That's just political
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grandstanding. The congresswoman's from a district in which I'm sure that about 80 percent of her
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constituencies look and sound like her. That's why she gets elected and reelected. And maybe that clip
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will get her reelected. But in the greater scheme of things, that kind of behavior, you know, doesn't
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It's crazy how far we've stooped down. It started with AOC and we thought that was bad.
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Had this piece of garbage from the Bronx. And then we went to Jasmine Crockett, who's got no
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respect for the rule of law or any human being who's not of her skin color. And now we've got
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this woman. It seems that you'd mentioned an IQ test. It seems that there's not a person walking
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in that place as a Democrat who's got over 100 IQ. It's it's truly embarrassing. They want to talk
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about Donald Trump being an embarrassment on the world stage. These people are embarrassments,
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Roger. I don't understand how they get and how the constituents go and vote for them.
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What does it tell you about someone who's going to vote for something like that?
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Well, as you know, John, part of the problem in the country is that about 80 percent of the
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districts are either solidly Republican or solidly Democrat. There is no political opportunity,
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not only for the other party. There's also not even any opportunity for insurgents within the
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parties. So you get stuck with members of Congress like that. You saw Maxine Waters off to the left.
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You see, she can use her authority to pressure a bank to bail out her husband and the Justice
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Department won't come knocking on her door. But if Donald Trump spits on the sidewalk, well,
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Letitia James is right there with the handcuffs. It's a two tiered justice system and it has to end.
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Speaking of spitting, I don't know if you saw the video yesterday of Ed Martin, the acting
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U.S. attorney for D.C. right now. Someone walks by him and hocks a loogie right on this guy's coat.
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I mean, this is the intolerant left, Roger. These are the same people who said that Republicans,
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you and I tried to overthrow the Capitol. Mark Wayne Mullen, another one who I can't leave his name
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out. You know, comforting Michael Bursey shot down Ashley Babbitt, now holier than thou,
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biggest Republican in the Senate because he's up for reelection in 2026. But these are the same
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people, Roger, who said you guys tried to destroy our country. You tried to, Tom Tillis, another one
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that we ruined democracy on that day. Right. As we watch security guards and Capitol police officers
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open doors for people and welcome them through the hallways of Congress. Yet where they're the
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where the intolerant ones and they're holier than thou allowed to go and spit on people.
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Yeah. Fortunately, Ed Martin was wearing a raincoat. By the way, Senator Tillis actually told someone I
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know that Ashley Babbitt had it coming. Oh, that needs to that needs to be in a 30 second TV commercial
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in North Carolina so we can be rid of this rhino piece of crap as soon as humanly possible.
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Let's talk about another piece of human debris over in the Senate. Bernie Sanders, he was on Fox
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News the other day with Brett Baer, who is not a journalist by any stretch of the imagination. He's
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not a Republican. Anyone who watches him, do not be fooled. Let's take a listen. You know, Alyssa Slotkin,
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senator from Michigan, she said you shouldn't be using oligarch. It's over people's head.
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You've gotten criticized from other people. Free Beacon says Bernie Sanders spent $221,000 on private
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jets fighting the oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders. That you've spent millions of
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dollars in campaign funds on private jet travel over the years. How do you push back on both of
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those things? When's the last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign mode at National Airport?
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No, no, no. It doesn't. But he's also not fighting the oligarchy.
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No. When you run a campaign and you do three or four or five rallies in a week, the only way you
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can get around to talk to 30,000 people. Think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting line at United
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waiting, you know, while 30,000 people are waiting? That's the only way you can get around. No
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apologies for that. That's what campaign travel is about. We've done it in the past. We're going to do
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it in the future. And you think that this is hitting a mark? You think it's scratching the
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itch that voters want to hear from? I think at a time when the people on top are doing phenomenally
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well, when seniors, working class people are struggling, people want to hear action to stand
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up to the people who have the wealth and the power and create an economy that works for all of us,
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not just the. Unapologetic, Roger, oligarchs. They said that don't use oligarchs because the
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Democratic base is too dumb to understand what that word means. Two hundred twenty one thousand
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dollars spent in these things. There's one difference. He mentions Trump flying on his
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private jet. First of all, in 2016, Roger, Trump started his campaign self-funding. OK,
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flew around on his own dime on his private jet. Number one, Trump is a billionaire. He's never
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denied. As a matter of fact, he you know, he wants to be as rich as possible and he tells you he
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let's be as rich as possible. He's never denied that. This man is another one in a glass house.
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But Bret Baier, of course, doesn't press him on the issues because he's not a real journalist.
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Well, a couple of problems. First of all, big difference between Bernie Sanders and Donald
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Trump. Bernie Sanders is running around constantly talking about climate change
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and the carbon footprint. But it's OK for him to fly in a private jet. Second of all,
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Bernie and his wife skimmed millions of dollars in media placement commissions from his two
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presidential campaigns. So he is a millionaire. He is the rich person he's talking about. The man
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is a honking pain in the ass. He's a loud mouth and he's a hypocrite. So it's why shouldn't he wait
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online at the airport like working people? He's right. He's too important. That means never had a job
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that wasn't on the public payroll. He's just a complete hypocrite. I mean, if you care so much
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about the carbon footprint, why are you taking all these private jets? It's it really is a joke.
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He is a joke. He's the face of the Democrat Party. Wow. Yeah, it's remarkable. I want to turn to some
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foreign policy before we wrap up here, Roger. And I always appreciate you joining us. It's always an
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insightful, fun conversation. Donald Trump is supposed to be heading over to the Middle East in the coming
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weeks, meeting with some nations, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Israel, not on one of them. I was reading
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on Twitter this morning from a journalist who spoke to a general who was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday.
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Quote, he said that AIPAC is getting shut out of the Trump administration. He confirmed that Waltz was
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trying to undermine Trump by working with Netanyahu. And he said he's hopeful that the U.S. will decouple
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from Assad and MI6. Now, this is now the third or fourth report that I've heard that Mike Waltz
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was reportedly fired. Now, people are saying he was fired. He wasn't fired. Initially, he was fired
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and then rehired. I'm not sure what the entire terminology is. I heard Laura Loomer got him fired.
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I don't know if that's true or not. But working behind the scenes with Netanyahu, do you know
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anything about this? I do. I've heard those same reports, but I've also heard them contradicted.
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So, in all honesty, I'm uncertain. Isn't this the president who moved the capital of Israel?
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As I recall, I don't think that Israel has ever had a better friend in the White House.
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On the other hand, I agree with Tucker Carlson. American foreign policy put America first,
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not Israel first, but America first. Yes, Israel is a trusted ally, but so are the Saudis,
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in all honesty. So, an even-handed approach to the Middle East makes sense. I think that's what
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President Trump is pursuing. There's an alternative. First of all, Mike Waltz wasn't fired. He was sent
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to the United Nations, which isn't too shabby a job, in all honesty. And secondarily, there were
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additional reports that Waltz may have been given this lateral transfer because the president
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was unhappy with him over some conversation pertaining to Russia. That's another unconfirmed
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report. Yet, another report might be based on his involvement in whole signal gate. One thing you're
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doing about Donald Trump, sometimes he doesn't move immediately because he hates to make it look
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like he's been pushed or forced into doing something. But it's conceivable that Waltz's
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number was up after the whole signal gate thing. He was, after all, the guy who either inadvertently,
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I believe, or inadvertently, unlikely, added Jeffrey Goldberg, the non-journalist over at the Atlantic,
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to the thread. So it's possible that Waltz was going to get this lateral transfer that way back
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then. Again, this is a parlor game in Washington. But anyway, you look at it, Waltz is still in an
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important position in the administration. The real question is, who will be the next national security
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advisor? If that person is not a neocon, as Mike Waltz was, at least prior to joining this
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administration, that would be a very, very good sign. Yeah. Like you said, it's very unclear.
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The way I look at it, Roger, is we shouldn't be fighting anybody's wars. We shouldn't have American
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troops on the ground anywhere. We shouldn't be using anything. Fighting a proxy war with Iran,
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I mean, is the dumbest thing to do right now when Donald Trump's trying to handle it diplomatically.
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And the reports are that Israel wanted America to bomb the heck out of them, which I don't think,
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you know, five years ago, Roger, 10 years ago, I would have said, that sounds like a terrific idea.
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But I think Donald Trump has really opened a lot of our eyes to realize that it's not necessarily
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always the greatest thing. We look at what we've done to Afghanistan. We create these funnels.
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We look at what we did to Iraq. We look at what we did to Syria. You go in these places. Yeah,
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you blow the hell out of them and you maybe get the job done. But the end result isn't necessarily
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something that you want. Look, Trump was elected as a peace candidate. He was elected to bring peace
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both in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. He was elected to bring peace in the Middle East.
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I think that's what he's going to do. I agree with you, Tucker Carlson and others, that a unilateral
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attack on Iran right now would in the end be counterproductive. And I'm opposed to that.
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I think the president views it only as a last resort. He's a smart enough negotiator that he
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never takes anything off the table. One of the things I remember he would complain about
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before running for president was the way our leaders kept negotiating in public. You don't
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negotiate in public. You don't tell your adversaries what you will and will not do. You need to keep
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them guessing. The unpredictability of Donald Trump is one of his greatest assets on the world stage.
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Do you think that the Chinese, for example, would be highly confident that if they tried to grab
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Taiwan, that Trump would do nothing? I don't think so. They knew that had they tried it under Joe Biden,
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they would have gotten a strong letter of protest. That's about it. But whether it is whether it is
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the Ukrainians, pardon me, the Russians, who I don't think ever would have invaded Ukraine had Trump
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been in the White House or the Chinese who still have designs on Taiwan, Trump's unpredictability
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on the world stage is a great, great asset. Negotiating in public, Roger, is like the health
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department telling you they're coming to your restaurant at 10 p.m. tomorrow, 10 a.m. tomorrow
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to give you your health inspection, clean out all the rats, make sure the food temperatures are good,
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and make sure everyone's wearing gloves in the kitchen. Tulsi Gabbard is one of your most sought
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after people. I mean, you've been high on her from the beginning, and I think rightfully so. She's one of
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the very few people in that cabinet, I think, who's really got her eye on the ball right now
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as it sits. There's a few of them, but then there's ones who are kind of a little bit lost
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right now running around with no heads, like chickens. Confirming yesterday that she's actively
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pursuing 11 separate internal investigations into classified intelligence leaks meant to sabotage the
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Trump administration from within. This is something we didn't have in 2016, Roger. We had Alexander
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Vindman running around, his brother running around, all these people. Your thoughts on Tulsi?
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I think she's doing great. She's the one cabinet member of which there's been no controversy
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whatsoever in terms of the job that she's doing. I think she's doing her very best to ensure
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that in the end we release everything regarding the John Kennedy assassination, the Robert Kennedy
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assassination, and the assassination of Dr. King. That job is not finished, in my opinion. We could do a
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whole show on that. But I think she's very serious about these leaks, some of whom are obviously deep
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within our own administration. So, look, I think that she is a thoroughbred. I think she's got a great
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political future. I've predicted it on this show and elsewhere. I still believe she will be your first
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woman president. Maybe not in 2028, maybe in 2028, but maybe not in 2028. But she has it. It is that rare
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combination of devout commitment to principle, as well as great communication skills and charisma.
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Yeah. And you see that only once, you know, every every set, every several decades. Reagan had it,
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for example. Trump has it. She has it. Yep. You often hear and I get a lot of heat for this on the
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show, but it's just the truth of the matter, Roger. And as you, a longtime political strategist, one of
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the most brilliant out there, everyone's saying J.D. Vance will do eight years. And then this person
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will they remember what we what everyone was saying back in 2016. It will be Trump for eight
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years and then Pence will come in. And then we found out Pence was not exactly a good man.
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We all just need to sort. I'm not saying I don't like J.D. Vance. I like J.D. Vance. I think he's
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doing a terrific job. I think he needs to buy pants that are a little bit longer to cover his socks. But
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I do like the man. I think he's doing a terrific job very honorably. And he's a very smart man. But
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let's hold out reserve judgment. Marco Rubio is also doing a hell of a job who I think has come
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such a long way that I'm I'm so happy for the man, because from 2016 to now, the man has come
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such a long way, Roger. Well, the president, I think, said this himself in that meet the press
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interview. Yes, it's true that in our party, a sitting vice president has a great leg up in J.D.
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Vance is doing a great job. He would certainly be the front runner. But I think you're going to have a
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you're still going to have a large field in 2028. The president has finally put this idea that
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he's interested in running for reelection to bed. It was a great troll. But even the president
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understands it's constitutionally not permittable. Yeah. And competition in the party is a healthy
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thing. Besides that, whoever does win this nomination is going to need a vice presidential
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nominee. So I don't I think there's a there has to be a presumption, particularly in the Republican
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Party for a sitting vice president. We have a great respect for hegemony. We we nominated George
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Bush after eight years of Ronald Reagan. We nominated Richard Nixon after eight eyes, years,
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years under Dwight Eisenhower. But in the television age and with Donald Trump becoming president,
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which kind of changed all the rules, because before Trump was president, all of our presidents
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were either governors, senators, congressmen or generals. It's the first business person we've
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had as president. So, look, the president said it best. Let's have a great four years. We'll let
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the future take care of itself. Right. And we may have an outsider on someone like perhaps Tucker
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Carlson. You never know what's coming. Folks, before we wrap up, you guys all get to see Roger
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Stone here as a very serious political operative. But Roger's got a fun side to him as well.
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I want to share this video. I want to share this video of Roger.
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Hey, Roger, I need I need some moves like that. We got down in Florida. We need to set up a session
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because those are pretty impressive moves. Well, you know, I can still shake a tail feather.
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What can I say? Roger, you got the last word here as we wrap up, brother.
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Look, John, I'm just as optimistic as I was just months ago that America is on the brink,
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on the verge of an unprecedented golden age, an age of peace, prosperity, security, justice
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and law and order. God bless you, John. Have a great weekend.
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Thank you. Thanks to Roger Stone, folks. And thank you all for being with us here on the
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Great America Show. We hope you enjoy our conversation. I get so much feedback on having
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Roger on and Roger had asked me maybe a year ago. He said, you know, let's let's do a segment
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every week. And I said, you know, I don't really have people on every single week, but let's do it.
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And, you know, it's been a great joy and a great deal of fun. And it's informational. I mean,
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Roger is a brain that if anyone had the opportunity to pick, you absolutely should. He's been around
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everywhere. He's seen absolutely everything in the political sphere. So we always appreciate
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his insights. And we'll be seeing him again in Florida next week. Maybe we'll have a new story
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to break for you. Last time we were down in Florida, Roger, we broke the Tish James mortgage fraud.
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So we'll see what Roger's got cooking up for us next week, folks. We hope to see you back here
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on Monday for the Great America Show, where our quest for truth, justice and the American way
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continues. See you back here Monday, folks. But until then, may God bless you. May God bless America
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and may God bless the great Lou Dobbs, folks. Have a great weekend. We'll see you Monday.