Kurt Olson is an attorney representing Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham in Arizona. They have new evidence pertaining to elections in both 2020 and 2022, and they believe the Supreme Court has a duty to act on it. This episode is sponsored by The Wellness Company.
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00:00:33.540Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:40.420Kurt is an attorney representing Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham in Arizona.
00:00:48.980A writ has been filed with the Supreme Court, as a matter of fact, just a couple of days ago.
00:00:55.480And it suggests that, more than suggests, it states categorically that there have been misrepresentations by law firms, attorneys representing the state of Arizona, and election officials as well,
00:01:14.240going to the very heart of the integrity of our electoral system, particularly in the state of Arizona.
00:01:22.900Again, Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham, they are the petitioners represented by Kurt Olson.
00:01:30.760And with us today to take up what is happening.
00:01:33.560Now, you haven't probably heard about any of this in your local media, the national media, because it's just happening.
00:01:41.700And there is an aversion to dealing with the, let's call it the inconvenient truths of this case.
00:01:47.760And the inconvenient truths are that there have been manipulations in the elections of both 2020 and 2022.
00:01:56.960And these filings before the Supreme Court go to that very issue.
00:02:01.800And to guide us through all of this, a man no one knows more about this issue than attorney Kurt Olson.
00:02:09.120Now we're going to turn to a story that you haven't heard about or read about in the national left-wing media.
00:02:18.000It's a story that is about voter fraud.
00:02:22.200It is a story about electoral fraud on a vast scale.
00:02:27.140A filing yesterday before the Supreme Court attorney, Kurt Olson, representing Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham in the state of Arizona,
00:02:36.560bringing forward brand new evidence into their case and seeking redress before the Supreme Court.
00:02:43.500And doing so, requesting an expedited resolution of these issues and these claims that Kurt Olson has put forward in his filings for the petitioners,
00:02:57.840Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham in the state of Arizona, pertaining to the elections of 2020, by the way, and 2022.
00:03:05.960Kurt, here you are, filing before the Supreme Court, petitioning in behalf of Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham,
00:03:14.600because you have new evidence pertaining to elections in both 2020 and 2022.
00:03:22.880And you believe the Supreme Court has a responsibility to act here. Why?
00:03:28.440Well, Lou, how we got this new evidence in front of the Supreme Court is because the original case was dismissed on standing.
00:03:35.960And the standing determination was that there was no injury because the injury was too speculative.
00:03:41.820And so that wound its way through the district court, the Ninth Circuit, and up to the Supreme Court.
00:03:47.460But we have uncovered new evidence, which we're allowed to introduce, because under the federal code 28 U.S.C. 1653,
00:03:56.680you can introduce jurisdictional or evidence that shows jurisdiction at any point in the proceeding.
00:04:06.460So in dismissing this case, which went to whether or not voting machines can constitutionally provide a secure and accurate vote, we challenge that.
00:04:17.680We have the courts relied on some representations by the defendants.
00:04:22.420One, that the election software that was used had been certified and approved by the Secretary of State,
00:04:30.700and also that they perform pre-election logic and accuracy testing to make sure that the machines are actually reading and tabulating the votes
00:04:38.760to give the public confidence when they go into the election that their ballot will be accurately counted.
00:04:44.220The Secretary of State is the one that did the logic and the approval of the machines. Is that correct?
00:04:55.500The Secretary of State has a three-member panel under Arizona law that approves the software along with the EAC.
00:05:04.040It must be tested by a certified voting system testing labs.
00:05:08.440And so there's quite a process to go through to make sure that the software that is used is certified and approved.
00:05:16.080And that's exactly what the defendants represented when they told the courts,
00:05:32.680And actually, the Ninth Circuit, in its opinion, affirming dismissal, that's before the Supreme Court,
00:05:38.340cited those two issues as a primary basis, that the software was certified and that the defendants perform pre-election logic and accuracy testing.
00:05:50.020We have new evidence that shows that that software was altered before the 2020 election and used in the 2020 election and used in the 2020 election.
00:06:00.240And it was altered with respect to the configuration file that governs how ballots are read and tabulated.
00:06:07.640It goes precisely, this altered software goes precisely to the issue of whether or not these machines are accurately reading ballots.
00:06:16.220And secondly, we show that they don't even perform logic and accuracy testing as required on the voting system, on the tabulators that are used at Maricopa County's vote centers.
00:06:41.180Five spares that aren't even used during the election.
00:06:44.640And you combine that with the fact that they're using altered software and they falsely represented to the courts that this software is certified.
00:07:08.060So what you're saying is that every assertion that the electronic voting machines were reliable, were secure, and that had gone through, as you put it, the logic and for whatever reason, accuracy testing.
00:07:27.720None of that happened across 400 machines.
00:08:06.500The fact that defendants misrepresented to the courts, that they were using the EAC and Arizona Secretary of State approved software, that was false.
00:08:19.520The fact that they represented to the courts, that they performed logic and accuracy testing, pre-election logic and accuracy testing.
00:08:27.520And that's another reason why telling the court that the claims were meritless.
00:08:47.260Well, Pima County uses different voting systems.
00:08:52.280So this new evidence applies only to Maricopa County, which is not insignificant because Maricopa County is the fourth largest county in the country.
00:09:01.420And where Maricopa County goes, generally Arizona goes as well because of that.
00:10:17.660Well, I never predict what a court is going to do.
00:10:20.820What I want them to do is obviously to take the petition and reverse and remand back to the district court at a minimum and say, hey, the plaintiffs have standing.
00:10:31.640We're not asking the court to rule on the merits of the case, per se.
00:10:41.040The dismissal of these claims based on on the notion that the claims were too speculative was wrong.
00:10:47.320And Carrie Lake and Mark Bencham should have their day in court, particularly before the 2024 election,
00:10:53.080because this new evidence that we have shows they're using altered software and they're not performing the required logic and accuracy testing before the election.
00:11:07.060And so this is a very serious matter going into 2024.
00:11:10.260To what degree is the voting machine company culpable in this for the fact that the logic and accuracy testing was not carried out despite certification from the secretary of state and other parties?
00:11:25.660To what degree is the secretary of state himself responsible?
00:11:31.400Well, under Arizona law, with respect to logic and accuracy testing for the county, the secretary of state is allowed to test a sampling of voting equipment.
00:11:42.880But the Arizona law expressly requires counties to test all deployable voting equipment.
00:11:50.100So the county is the responsible party here for the logic and accuracy testing.
00:11:54.420When it comes to the software that's been altered, you know, right now, what we know is that that software has been altered and there is no debate about that.
00:12:04.000We can see that in the tabulator system log files.
00:12:07.700We can see and we have looked at this in data, which is dispositive on this issue.
00:12:18.020But it is a felony, I would note, under Arizona law to alter software knowingly without the permission of the secretary of state is a felony.
00:12:28.840We're talking with Kurt Olson, attorney for Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham petitioning the Supreme Court.
00:12:35.160We're going to take up next with Kurt Olson.
00:12:38.700What else is going on in the state of Arizona that has to be considered in this case?
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00:14:32.780There obviously is a huge problem that there has been certifications that did things that didn't happen.
00:14:40.920Failures to abide by the standards and the requirements of the integrity of these machines.
00:14:51.200What else is going on that deserves some considerable examination?
00:14:57.440Well, Lou, there's a third discovery, and it's quite stunning because it just doesn't apply to Arizona.
00:15:04.080It applies to every Dominion system that we have inspected.
00:15:07.960And that's from Arizona to Colorado to Georgia to Pennsylvania to Michigan.
00:15:12.040And it appears to be in all of their systems.
00:15:14.440And that is the election data is supposed to be encrypted.
00:15:21.600Dominion represents that they, quote, protect the data with a AES-level 256-bit encryption.
00:15:29.360What we have found is that the master cryptographic encryption keys are left open and unprotected on the election database, except for the Windows login, which is easily bypassed, in plain text.
00:15:46.440The short answer is this is like the Enigma machine from World War II, if you remember that, where the Allies were able to break the cipher code of the Germans' Enigma machine and could read all their messages.
00:15:59.560Well, here, the Dominion machines, they leave the master cryptographic encryption keys in plain text, unprotected on the election database.
00:16:08.320And that allows total control over the machines.
00:16:13.020That means any malicious actor can take control of this system, decrypt the data, decrypt the passwords, take control of the tabulators, insert whatever results they want.
00:16:24.940They can make it look like they're the official results without detection.
00:16:30.020And so this is a stunning breach of security.
00:16:33.200And it appears to apply to every Dominion machine in the country.
00:16:38.560What does the company itself say about this?
00:16:40.620I've only seen one statement where they have come out and had a generic, oh, it's implausible.
00:16:49.560And in fact, when you look at the election database, which is there's actually screenshots of an election database right before the Supreme Court now.
00:16:58.260And we redacted it because we wanted to be mindful that that was sensitive data.
00:17:03.860But some of this information has been produced, for example, in Georgia.
00:17:09.560Four counties produced the election databases pursuant to public records requests.
00:17:15.060And these master cryptographic keys are right there on the election database if you know where to look.
00:17:25.840But you mentioned Georgia, the curling case there as well.
00:17:32.140Is there any correlation to what has transpired before Judge Amy Totenberg in Georgia and what was actually a dramatic moment in the case where they took a machine and actually flipped the machine within a matter of seconds?
00:18:07.060And if it had, I think that would have been an even more stunning moment.
00:18:12.000Because with these keys, you have complete control that renders it nearly undetectable because you are essentially, these are like God keys.
00:18:22.320And so it's a master administrative level password, keys, whatever you need that provides access and control over the tabulators, over the election management system.
00:18:34.500And it allows anybody to manipulate the votes without detection.
00:18:44.460Not that I'm interested in doing so, but I want to get a sense of how easy it is.
00:18:49.440Well, you just, because these are, matter of fact, in Georgia, as I said, public records, if you go to the election database and you look for a table called an event table, and right there, these are called, it's called a Reindel key and X509 security certificate and HMAC key.
00:19:07.720And it's right there on the table, just any standard table, you would look at it, and there's the script with all the, with the, with the keys.
00:19:18.840And, and Dominion represents that the encryption they provide is FIPS, which stands for Federal Information Processing Standards, AES level 256-bit encryption.
00:19:30.820Well, FIPS expressly prohibits storing the keys in this manner.