THE AMERICAN BAR ASSN & ACLU ARE NOW WORKING WITH THE BIDEN REGIME AND THE MARXIST REVOLUTION
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The FBI raid on President Trump's Mar-A-Lago office is the latest in a long series of FBI outrages against President Trump and his family. Conservative attorney Kurt Olson joins host Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show to discuss the latest episode.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show.
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Welcome. And today, we're trying, like I suppose everyone else in the country,
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to understand just exactly what the federal government, in particular the Biden White House
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and the Merrick Garland Justice Department, think they can accomplish by blatantly and right out in
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the open violating the Constitution and the rights of a former president, Donald Trump.
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The FBI raid on President Trump's Mar-a-Lago offices, confiscating numerous boxes of documents.
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The FBI sent about 30 agents and they seized the president's property, apparently without opening
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the boxes. The raid is unprecedented. It's outrageous. And in that regard, it's just the
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latest in what has been an almost six-year-long series of FBI outrages against President Trump
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and his family. The FBI started their so-called investigations of Trump in the summer of 2016,
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pursuing what FBI officials knew at the time were false claims, all concocted by the Clinton campaign
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about Russian collusion. And those agents framed Trump's national security advisor, General Michael
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Flynn. They perpetrated fraud after fraud against President Trump from the moment he took office,
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ultimately creating a special counsel, which was a pack of lies piled on a pack of lies.
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But the president was exonerated after almost two years of persecution. The Marxist Dems, without shame
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or thought of honor or integrity, continued their assault against him and the nation, bringing two
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impeachments against President Trump. And they looked like the fools and knaves they are, again,
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without shame or accountability for their venality and betrayal of all that this country stands for.
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I truly believe there will be an accounting this time. This latest outrage is one enormity,
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one depravity, too many to take without rooting out the evil that this President Biden,
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this Attorney General, Merrick Garland, and these FBI agents have unleashed once again
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on President Trump, on this republic, on you and me. We must go to the polls in powerful numbers and
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bring this corrupt Marxist-dim party and deep state to account. We must return this country to the
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American people. With us today is conservative attorney Kurt Olson. He's represented President
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Trump and Mike Lindell. Kurt is a great American. And Kurt, it's great to have you back with us here
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on The Great America Show. I'd like to get your judgment first on what the FBI has done here.
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The legal bounds they've once again trampled, along with the President's constitutional
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rights. Well, Lou, I think you first have to step back and let's look at the framework of what is
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at issue here. And this is about the Presidential Records Act and specifically 15 boxes of documents
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that back in February of 2022, the National Archives claimed that the President shouldn't have taken
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some of, at least some of those documents back with him after he left office. And so, you know,
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it's been reported that there have been ongoing negotiations, you know, with the family members
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and others in terms of whether those documents are property of the National Archives and the
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Presidential Records Act or personal documents, such as birthday cards and things like that,
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that, you know, the President would, you know, normally receive in the course of his term in office.
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And so, this is not some high crime or anything like that or where there's been any allegation
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that there are some highly classified documents that were taken, you know, by the President
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within those 15 boxes. And so, to have an unannounced raid by the FBI, reportedly over 30 agents rummaging
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through Mar-a-Lago when, even as Alan Dershowitz said last night on Fox, a simple subpoena would have
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sufficed. I mean, there was no danger that these documents were going to be destroyed. The President
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was not at Mar-a-Lago when this raid was conducted. He's in New Jersey. So, there isn't the kind of,
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you know, exigent circumstances that would justify a raid of this type, both in terms of the circumstances
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or the issues that, that supposedly justified the warrant, which by the way, the warrant is under seal.
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So, nobody really knows right now what the probable cause that was laid out to justify this raid in the
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first place. And I think it's really important. Go ahead.
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No, I was going to say, as it stands right now, we have a sealed warrant. We have a question about why
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there's a warrant at all and no answers. We don't understand why. The FBI showed up with,
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as Eric Trump said, they were in 20 cars and 30 agents, and they would not permit, apparently,
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President Trump's attorneys to be present as they went through and confiscated boxes of documents and
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whatever else they took. And it is highly, it would seem to me, as a private citizen, I would be furious
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if they did that to me. And I can't even imagine what we're thinking of in this country to have this
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happen to a former President of the United States. Your thoughts about why we're allowing the FBI to
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operate like a Bureau of the Stasi or any Secret Service police state organization.
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This is just nonsense, what we're permitting here.
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Well, I mean, you're raising a, you have an assumption that we're permitting it.
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I think the issue is, is that the DOJ and the FBI have been weaponized against the President and the
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American people. The people that are authorizing this are on the side of the DOJ and the FBI against
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the President and against the American people. And if they can do this to the President, I mean,
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this is a message being sent. We can do this to anybody. This is about control. It's about
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intimidation. And it's about putting fear in anyone who would support the President or who would
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contradict, you know, the official narrative that's coming out of Washington, D.C. on any
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number of issues. So right now you say, you know, why are we permitting this? And then the question
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Well, that's, that is the next question. And that is this. Why in the world aren't the
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President's attorneys right now appealing to the, to the Supreme Court in getting some sort of
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judicial judgment here that would stop this? Because this is unconstitutional on its face for
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crying out loud. Well, it would certainly seem so. And of course, things are moving very quickly. And I'm
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not sure exactly what the President's attorneys are or are not doing. But I don't believe that there
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is a remedy directly with the Supreme Court. I think this is, this is a situation. It's a naked abuse
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abuse of power. And it's an abuse of power by a system that has now been weaponized against the American
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people. So what are the American people to do? Yeah, I, I don't think that there is much that the
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President can do about this in a short timeframe. Could file a motion to quash, to retrieve the documents,
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but all of that would take time. I mean, this all has the imprimatur of legitimacy because it's a warrant
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that was signed by a magistrate. You know, they've checked the boxes, but it is the, it's a fact that
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those that are in power now are the ones that are orchestrating this. And they're not doing this
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under the, under the rubric of law. They're doing it under the rubric of power. That's what we've
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become. This, many people have said, you know, this is what you see in a banana republic, using the,
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using law enforcement and the judicial system to go after your political opponents. I think it's that,
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it's that obvious right now as to what's going on. Well, in banana republics,
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they don't have a tradition of 250 years of absolute freedom and liberty and demanding of their
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government consent of the governed. And we've got too many people, it seems to me, Kurt, talking about
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the American people as if we were some sort of mushrooms in a dark cellar somewhere. I am telling
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you, this is, when I said permitted, I'm saying, I, I mean the word permitted. We've done nothing.
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We are the only ones who can do anything here. And to just sit here and watch this like helpless babes
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as they trample the constitution. I don't give a damn how many guns they've got, how many agents they've
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got. What they're doing is ugly. It's obscene. It's a violation of law. And it is an absolute breach of
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tradition. There's, this has never happened to any president in history. It hasn't happened as far
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as I know to any high government official. This is sickening to watch. Well, it's not only sickening.
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I mean, I think as the president said, we're in a very dark period right now. And we're in uncharted
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waters as a country. When it is so obvious that the Department of Justice, the FBI,
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other intelligence agencies have been caught lying under oath, for example, with the FBI officials
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lying to Congress, lying to the FISA court, the Russia hoax, as you well know, the fact that you
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had the FBI include a portal in the law office of Perkins Coie where NSA tools were being used to spy
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on political opponents. If you recall, John Jordan mentioned that or brought that to light about
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three weeks ago, I believe. I mean, this is the weaponization
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of law enforcement and the intelligence agencies and the tools with which they bring
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against the American people or anybody who stands against this current administration.
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And it's scary. If we let this stand, Kurt, we have, we are no longer a republic. We are no longer a
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democracy. We are something entirely different than the United States of America. And it will be a
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judgment of the people. We had people standing outside Mar-a-Lago. I don't know what the American
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people have to do here. But I do know this, if we accept this, there's an old saying, you get what
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you accept and what we have accepted after six years of persecution, the political persecution
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of this president is an FBI that is encouraged now to trample his rights and those of every American.
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It's just outrageous. You're talking about a crossfire hurricane. The fact that the FBI,
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all we know about the FBI is that they're corrupt. They lie. They've done so through how many directors
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of the FBI have lied through their teeth to Congress, to the American people. How many crimes have been
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committed after two impeachments, two presidential impeachments of this president, after a special
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counsel, after more than, well, almost three years of investigation by the FBI. The only thing we know
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is that the FBI lied, they cheated and they stole. They were fraudulent in their activities and they
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knew, they knew the truth and kept it from the American people for the course of the entire presidency
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of Donald J. Trump and are doing so today. Why in hell should we put up with that kind of conduct from
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these kinds of people who make up the FBI? Well, the short answer is we shouldn't.
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And in terms of the power that the American people have, you know, their power lies at the ballot box,
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which has some questions, but as demonstrated by the election in Arizona, where Carrie Lake defeated
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the establishment candidate for governor, Mark Fincham won his race for secretary of state. That,
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I think, reverberated through the establishment Republican Party, who do not want Carrie Lake,
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for example, to become governor because she will take out the McCain, the McCain Power Center there.
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The, in terms of what the people can do about it, I would say, where are our elected representatives,
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whether Republicans for sure, but even you would hope some freedom loving Democrats as well. So,
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you know, when Andrew McCarthy, excuse me, Kevin McCarthy, you know, announces that Merrick Garland
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preserves your documents, you know, if and when we get in power in, you know, in January of 2023,
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well, you know, big deal. What are you doing now? Why isn't every Republican senator, and I haven't
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heard any Republican senators come out and denounce what happened, only a few Republican representatives,
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but why isn't a block, the entire Republican Party in the Senate and in the House, marching on the FBI
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to right now protest, not to do it for the camera on TV, but, you know, a block, every single one of
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them marching down from the Capitol to the FBI and to protest what they're doing. You know, again, this is,
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this is unprecedented what happened. And so the response should be unprecedented as well.
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But the Republican senators, and even you would hope for some, as I said, freedom loving Democrats
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who realize it used to be the Democrats that were always against the authority, you know, the man,
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but now they embrace authority. And it's really disturbing. And it's a dangerous point in our
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It's a dangerous point. It's, it's so dangerous that when you talk about the Democrats as being
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liberal, you have to go back 50 years to find those Democrats. Would you say a freedom loving
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Democrat? Can you name one? Name one? I just like to think, I don't know of one. Could you help me out?
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Lou, I rack my brain. Sometimes, ironically enough, there are glimpses from,
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oh, forgive me. Who's, who's the, the senator that, that ran against Hillary Clinton?
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The older gentleman whose name escapes me right now. Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders. Sometimes
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there's, there's a glimpse. And then he's quick, then he quickly goes back to his, into the fold.
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He's a Marxist and a fraud, by the way. It's all together.
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Okay, I'll grant you the glimpse with one Marxist senator by the name of Bernie Sanders.
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I can't think of another. This is absolutely a time, as you said, of great danger and requiring
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unprecedented action. And I fear, I fear that when it passes for a response for the minority
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leader of the House of Representatives saying to keep your documents and clear your calendar,
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if that is bold stuff and a response to this iniquity, this obscenity on the part of the FBI,
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the Department of Justice, and the Biden White House, then we are lost. We, we have to do more
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as a people. We have to do more, our leadership. My Lord, this, Mitch McConnell, we haven't even heard
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from him. And this is just fine with this pitiful excuse for a Republican.
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That would make him a P, P, R, a PR. Pitiful excuse for a Republican.
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Well, it's been, you know, reported, you know, of course, in 2010, when you had the, you know,
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the Tea Party movement that, that swept a number of candidates into the Senate and the House. I mean,
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it was reported that, you know, that McConnell had helped, you know, weaponize the IRS or look the
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other way while the IRS started investigating various Tea Party groups, for example. And, you know,
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the same thing I think is true with, with the Make America Great Movement. The grassroots are
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antithetical to Senator McConnell's desire to maintain the establishment control of the Republican
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Senate. And I've got to be honest with you. I could care less what McConnell's reaction is to
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anything. He's more aligned with the CCP than he is the Republican Party. He is certainly not aligned
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with MAGA or America First. Again, his stewardship, if you can call it that of the Republican Senate,
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it is abysmal. He is a non-entity and a force for the opposition, certainly not for the Republican
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Party or the American people. I agree completely. But I think his reaction needs to be noted by the
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American people so they see what's going on. So while he hides in the background and doesn't say anything,
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that needs to be brought to light because it's only by exposing people like McConnell and the other
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feckless Republicans who are doing nothing while this is going on. What would be, what would be,
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in your opinion, the reason that we haven't heard anything from the American Bar Association,
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the American Civil Liberties Union? Why haven't we heard from attorneys within the Republican Party
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standing up and talking about what an affront to the Constitution and to tradition and to a former
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president's rights and expectations, if you will? Why are attorneys across this country so left-wing
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and those who are seemingly Republican so feckless?
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Well, I think every one of those institutions has been co-opted. And that would be the American Bar
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Association. That would be the ACLU. You know, all of them have basically been co-opted and are now
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working with the regime, if you will. The left-wing Marxist revolution that is attempted to be,
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that they're attempting to impose on the country right now. I mean, you, you ask yourself
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those questions, but if you look, you know, everywhere you look, the institutions that used to,
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we used to look to, to guard, you know, our republic and the freedoms that we have, they're no longer
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there. And it's because they're made up of people. And those people that are now running those
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institutions are on board with what is being imposed right now. This really is a, I think
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it's a war on the American people by the current government and the institutions around it that
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support it, such as the ACLU that used to be averse to power. You don't really see, I mean,
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even Alan Dershowitz has come out and said, you know, where's the ACLU that, you know, I used to
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know. And, you know, Alan Dershowitz, you know, and I are not aligned on many things in politics,
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but, you know, he has stayed true to his belief system in terms of, you know, being against abuses
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of power and to, to make sure that the government lives within the constraints of the constitution.
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Well, a lot of people who, whatever their charge and Dershowitz has been a smart man,
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a smart lawyer and professor for a very long time, but I have to say his influence on the legal system
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of this country is de minimis. His influence on the institutions, whether it be the FBI,
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the executive for the presidency has been de minimis. We haven't had a significant influence
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whatsoever in Washington, D.C. or the swamp, if you prefer. Trump for four years and he was, and he was
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forced out. He was a victim of a, of a, an attempted coup that while it didn't succeed,
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it certainly did end the prospects at the ballot box that he would return for at least four years.
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We are, we have been watching Donald Trump be persecuted since the, the second half of 2016
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to the present day. And no one stands up for the van. No one actually does much, uh, a handful of
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people, but this man has had to fight. He and his family have had to fight this basically on their
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own from, from jump street. And isn't that remarkable that we haven't had more people step forward
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and step into the system and say, we're going to, we're going to fight this. We've got a handful of
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candidates across the country, thanks to Trump's interest and efforts, but man, do we need patriots now.
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We do, but it also shows you the power of the forces that are arrayed against not only President Trump,
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but of the people that support him. And so all of these actions are designed to keep him from running in
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2024, whether it's the January 6th committee, whether it is, you know, was the impeachments
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before, you know, their goal is to keep him from running in 2024 because they know he'll win.
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You and let me, for example, look at the policies that are, that are being, uh, imposed now by the
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current administration, whether it's on immigration, energy, critical race theory, the weaponization of
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the Department of Justice, for example, they're not changing those policies, even though this
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administration knows they're deeply unpopular and are going to likely result in a red wave in the
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upcoming midterms. They're not changing course. And that tells you something because they think they
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can win or get what they want done beforehand. And there are real questions about, I think, whether we're going to see
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a midterm election that is conducted, you know, normally, for example, they just declared or Biden
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just declared a national emergency for monkeypox. But why? And this is a repeat of the China virus,
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imposing a national emergency and all of a sudden mail-in voting is what's required. You know,
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we can't show up at the, at the polls to vote in person. So you have mail-in voting,
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which is quite frankly, wife, wife, but fraud. The fact is there are about 7,500 cases in the entire
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United States. It affects mail-to-mail homosexuals, uh, sexual contact. Don't do that. And we will bring
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the, the, you know, this thing to a conclusion, uh, for those who are at risk. This is madness.
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And the fact that the national corporate media doesn't point out what a fool this president is,
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this impaired, incapable, incoherent fool, uh, is treated as if he were the, uh, a legitimate
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president of the United States. He is an oath. His wife is a caretaker, uh, and a tender. I, I mean,
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this is madness. What we are witnessing. This is a country gone mad. Uh, I, in, in every,
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you look at every corner, we've got a, a military that wants to send troops to the eastern flank of
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Europe to contend with Vladimir Putin instead of letting the Europeans defend themselves,
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let them make decisions about NATO. Uh, why must, uh, this, this leader of the free world,
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who's just the same fellow that I just described, uh, impaired, a fool. And, uh, it just goes on and
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on. This is in irrational. This is madness. And I can't think of a single policy being pursued by
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this administration. And I will, again, I'll turn to you, name one policy that is rational and in the
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national interest and in the interest of the American people that this president has pursued,
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uh, or ordered through executive order or administrative action.
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No, I don't think there's a single action that has been for the benefit of the American people.
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Everything is being, is designed to take the country down. This is part of, you know,
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we've talked before about the world economic forum and Klaus Schwab, the build back better agenda,
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the green new deal, which doesn't apply just to the United States, but every Western leader is repeating
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build back better, whether it was Boris Johnson, uh, Justin Trudeau, Macron. And you have to ask
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yourself, why are all these Western leaders repeating the same agenda? Which by the way,
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every Western European country is now under the same, you know, inflationary pressures,
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the illegal immigration pressures, everything is being done to tear down the nation state system of
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governance and to usher in globalism. And so we are in uncharted territory as a country and for the
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Western world in this, this is an agenda by the world economic forum to impose globalism. And to do that,
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they need to destroy the fabric of each nation state. You may not be aware because it wasn't really
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reported much, but on March 29th and March 30th in Dubai, there was a meeting of over 4,000 members
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of the global governance association, many from the United States. This all arises out of the world
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economic forum and you can look it up. There are two primary topics were mandating a digital ID for
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everyone and digital currency. And that is how you impose social control. So you asked earlier about
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where are the institutions, American bar association, the ACLU, the media, they are all under the control
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of the world economic forum. It's a, this, this is like an octopus that through the years has grown into
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this behind the scenes behemoth that is controlling governments. I mean, even David Gergen, you know,
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the CNN supposed Republican, you can see if you Google him, his interviews with Klaus Schwab,
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Klaus Schwab, and this is like 10 years ago, admits that they control the cabinets in France, Argentina,
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and Canada. And he probably named a few other countries. This is something that has been silently
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creeping through the Western world. And we are now at the apex of what the World Economic Forum's goal
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is, which is to take down the United States and President Trump, because he stood in the way of
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globalism and Marxism. But this is where we are as a country now. It is where we are. And the threats
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are very real. And I have to say, we, this is an entirely uncharted territory. I spent some time
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in Russia following the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the collapse of the Soviet Union. And you would
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talk with, with Russians. And they didn't know what had hit them. They honestly didn't know what happened.
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They didn't know why their country had collapsed, their government had folded. And they were looking
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at the time toward the United States for help, help. But by the way, frankly, through Democrat and
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Republican administrations didn't come that that help was all being sent to communist China, for goodness
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sake. But this is it is chartered territory, because a superpower can be reduced to a memory within a matter
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of months. And I believe that is exactly what's happening to the United States, because we have a
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corrupt system, a system that was once the envy of the world is now rancid with corruption in both
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parties, and across our business structure, our economy. It's a very difficult time. But no one
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should think that this has not, we haven't seen this before. We are going the way of the Soviet Union
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right now, and make no mistake about it. There's one important difference here, though, Kurt. There are
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two other powers that are ready to sweep in when we fail. This will not be a moment like for Russia,
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where it can gather and bring itself up out of the out of the ashes of once one at one time a
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superpower, the Soviet Union. We won't have that opportunity, because the Chinese and the Russians
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will be here within within days of that collapse. We don't have that opportunity to rise like Phoenix,
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because there will be a there will be attacks and assaults from from the east and the west,
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most surely. We don't, we don't have that opportunity. And I'd love to hear what your your response is.
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I think we have an opportunity if enough people wake up to what is going on. Because this really,
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this will take the American people themselves to take back their country. They can no longer outsource
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their, the job of protecting freedom, the job of protecting rights, and to others to maintain.
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People need to step up. And it can be as simple as educating friends and neighbors to what's going on,
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to writing op-eds, to running for local office, to any number of things. But many people have just
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been asleep and let others, you know, do the job of, you know, supposedly protecting our freedoms,
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whether it's, you know, the government, the ACLU, the American Bar Association, the media. And those are
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now corrupt institutions that have been weaponized against the American people. And so this really is,
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it's an opportunity. And the choice is going to be whether the people, enough people wake up. I mean,
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I saw a great speech by the, the woman running against Liz Cheney. I think her name is Hegman.
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And it's, we are, she goes on and on. We are fed up. We are fed up with illegal immigration. We are fed up
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with critical race theory. We are fed up with men competing in women's sports, you know, and so forth,
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and so forth. It was just terrific. And that's what it's going to take when General Flynn, General
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Mike Flynn, who was persecuted by this corrupt government, when he says local action equals
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national impact, he's exactly right. People need to step up. And that's the only way that we're going
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to take back our country. Yeah. Well, if people aren't awake now, they will slumber forever.
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It's that simple. And if, and, and that would be a shame to, to let this great republic simply slip
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away because we just were so apathetic and passive and so, so precious. It makes my blood boil.
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Kurt Olson, we thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. You're a great American and let's
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talk soon. We appreciate it. God bless you. Thank you, Lou. Likewise.
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Thanks everybody for being with us. Our guest tomorrow on the Great America Show will be
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Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton. Please join us. Till then, God bless you. God bless America.