The Great America Show - June 18, 2024


THE BAR AND THE LAW GONE WRONG


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35 minutes

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166.49579

Word Count

5,846

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365

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

9


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00:00:34.120 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:37.280 Good to have you with us.
00:00:39.060 Two new polls out this week showing more good news for President Trump.
00:00:43.700 The first out from Marist polling.
00:00:46.480 It has the president beating Biden in Pennsylvania by two points.
00:00:52.440 The other poll out from McLaughlin and Associates.
00:00:55.520 It has President Trump beating Biden by four in deep blue Minnesota.
00:01:01.300 How's that for a shocker?
00:01:03.300 The Biden campaign know that they are in deep trouble announcing Monday a $50 million ad campaign through the end of June.
00:01:11.860 The campaign is targeting President Trump's suitability for office, if you can imagine that.
00:01:18.060 This is not a very smart play on their part.
00:01:20.840 Taking aim at his recent sham conviction in New York.
00:01:25.880 It's unbelievable.
00:01:27.660 Joe Biden should be the last one targeting anyone for morals.
00:01:31.520 The man lacks morals, he lacks ethics, and he has no class.
00:01:36.880 RNC co-chair Laura Trump over the weekend announced a major 2024 initiative.
00:01:43.580 Laura saying she's working to ready an army of 100,000 poll workers and over 500 attorneys for the upcoming election.
00:01:52.800 Our other top priority is election integrity.
00:01:56.540 Because, Charlie, let's face it, if we don't have free, fair, and transparent elections, nothing else matters.
00:02:01.680 And that is our goal at the RNC.
00:02:03.940 And by the way, every single person in this country, regardless of how you vote, should want free and fair elections.
00:02:10.680 So, right before I came here, I was about 30 minutes away with the chairman of the RNC, Michael Watley.
00:02:19.600 He and I started here in the state of Michigan, launching our election integrity program.
00:02:25.620 And what we want to do is train 100,000 people all across this country to be part of that team.
00:02:33.020 Now, what does that mean?
00:02:34.300 That means we want poll watchers, but not just that.
00:02:37.120 We want poll workers.
00:02:38.340 We have a unique opportunity right now that we have not had in 40 years as a party.
00:02:44.860 For 40 years, there was a consent decree placed upon the RNC that did not allow us to train people to work as poll workers.
00:02:53.500 Now, think about that for a second.
00:02:55.440 Who was training, Charlie?
00:02:56.720 All the people for the past 40 years, not the RNC.
00:03:00.720 Think about how many people the DNC got to train to work in these polling locations.
00:03:05.080 Yes.
00:03:05.320 So, now we have this amazing opportunity so we can train you to work in a polling location.
00:03:10.640 We can train you to work in a tabulation center where the mail-in ballots come in.
00:03:14.060 We also want attorneys to work in every major polling location so we are not reactive.
00:03:20.340 We are proactive.
00:03:21.360 The second you see an issue, we address it.
00:03:25.520 We're going to have war rooms set up all across this country and every state as well to deal with things as they happen, not days, weeks, or months later.
00:03:37.500 So, protectthevote.com is the website.
00:03:40.420 Again, protectthevote.com.
00:03:43.120 If you want to be part of our team, we will come to you and we will train you in your state, give you everything you need to know.
00:03:49.860 Any lawyers in the audience are listening.
00:03:52.280 If you are a lawyer, you do not have to be trained in election law.
00:03:56.880 We will train you on exactly what you need to be looking out for.
00:04:00.640 It will take a Herculean effort to fight back against all the nonsense and all the nefarious activities that we know happen out there.
00:04:09.560 But this year is the year we do it.
00:04:12.200 We are also sending a loud and clear message out there to anyone who thinks about cheating in an election.
00:04:18.100 If you cheat in an election, we will find you, we will track you down, and we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law.
00:04:24.220 If you're an attorney or a concerned voter, for that matter, head to protectthevote.com.
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00:04:42.780 Our guest today on the podcast is attorney Mark McCloskey.
00:04:46.720 In 2020, Mark and his wife were charged for defending their property in St. Louis against BLM rioters and agitators.
00:04:56.500 They've been fighting against the city to have their misdemeanor conviction expunged, demanding that they be given back their seized weapons.
00:05:05.240 And now, Mark McCloskey.
00:05:07.000 Mark, let me say, first of all, it's always fascinating to talk with you because you were always involved in some feature of politics in Missouri, if not the nation.
00:05:19.720 This business of an expungement, you know, I cheered you for that.
00:05:24.560 How did it come about?
00:05:26.720 Well, you know, we had once the governor of Parson pardoned us, I figured that that was going to be the end of it.
00:05:31.820 And they'd give me my possessions back, my guns back.
00:05:35.360 And by the way, I was on NBC Nightly News the other night, and they called it an AR-15 style rifle.
00:05:41.300 Well, they were insulting me because it's a genuine full AR-15.
00:05:45.180 It's no knockoff.
00:05:46.520 But anyway, but I figured that the governor's pardon would take care of that.
00:05:50.440 But the Court of Appeals in Missouri ruled that the governor's pardon obliterated my conviction, but not my guilt.
00:05:56.920 And without any case law to support it, they said that that was the reason why I couldn't get my property back.
00:06:02.540 Say that again.
00:06:03.980 Say that again.
00:06:04.780 The governor's pardon obliterated my conviction, but not my guilt.
00:06:10.100 Go figure, right?
00:06:11.340 You know, I don't know.
00:06:12.820 But anyway, I figured.
00:06:13.860 Who was it that made that statement?
00:06:16.460 The Court of Appeals for the Eastern District of Missouri.
00:06:20.480 Three judges.
00:06:21.640 A court actually said that?
00:06:24.820 Yeah.
00:06:25.760 In the United States of America?
00:06:27.860 Yeah, absolutely.
00:06:28.560 So the governor's pardon meant nothing.
00:06:30.200 In other words, you know, your elected governor, he gives me a full and complete pardon that restores me of any rights or disadvantages attendant to my plea and all this stuff.
00:06:40.420 Well, the Court of Appeals, of course, said no.
00:06:42.960 Bar Association, of course, said no.
00:06:44.820 They wanted to take my bar license and had us probated for a year.
00:06:48.360 But so we've got an expungement statute now in Missouri, which says that you can, if you've been in the case of misdemeanor claims, if you've been a good boy or girl for a year before you file it, no additional offenses, you get expunged, which means you're back as if the underlying event never occurred.
00:07:05.880 So I can now honestly say I've never been charged, I've never been arrested, I've never been convicted, and I've never pled guilty.
00:07:13.620 And so now I'd like to see how those sons of guns come up with a good excuse to keep from giving me my property.
00:07:19.080 What do you think?
00:07:19.960 Will they try hard to come up with that excuse?
00:07:23.700 You know, I think so, yeah.
00:07:25.240 I mean, as I say, I like a mantra, right?
00:07:28.160 The only unforgivable crime in America these days is standing up against the left.
00:07:32.400 And when you do that, they never forgive and they never forget.
00:07:34.860 And they can't take, I mean, we have been successful in our case in doing all those things that unfortunately Donald Trump was not able to do.
00:07:42.400 Our district attorney ran on a promise to get us, right?
00:07:46.020 And because of that, we were able to get her and the entire circuit attorney's office tossed off the case.
00:07:51.800 We managed to get the governor to pardon us, but, you know, thank God we've got a good conservative Republican governor.
00:08:00.160 And now we've got another judge in the city of St. Louis that expunged our, you know,
00:08:04.220 expungement is kind of a rubber stamp thing if you meet the statute.
00:08:08.560 They called, we had a four-hour hearing on expungement because the state brought in witnesses from June 28th of 2020,
00:08:17.240 the people that broke down my gate, stormed into my neighborhood, threatened me, threatened my wife,
00:08:21.900 threatened to burn down the house, threatened to burn down my office,
00:08:24.440 brought those people in to say how emotionally upset they were when I pointed guns at them,
00:08:30.220 which I didn't point a gun at them anyway.
00:08:32.140 But, I mean, you know, that was four years ago.
00:08:35.360 And, by the way, what am I supposed to do under those circumstances?
00:08:38.100 But be that as it may, it then took the judge 76 days to rule on the expungement.
00:08:43.780 But he did a very good order.
00:08:45.060 He explained the law, and he explained that the powers it wanted to keep from getting me expunged
00:08:51.000 were merely playing politics and not paying attention to the law.
00:08:53.880 And so he expunged the record, and I sent a note to the city councilor's office,
00:09:00.720 the lady on the other side of this, that same afternoon saying,
00:09:03.520 well, now I think it's a pretty good time to cough up my guns,
00:09:06.940 or do you want to spend another two years fighting about it?
00:09:09.320 Well, we'll see.
00:09:11.540 It's amazing to me.
00:09:14.040 Have you thought of maybe going for reparations against all the witnesses
00:09:17.840 who were lying about you and charged them with whatever?
00:09:23.820 I mean, that's outrageous.
00:09:26.040 It is.
00:09:26.540 And, you know, we thought about that.
00:09:28.420 You know, one of my neighbors suggested something,
00:09:30.540 which I can't after apologize for being too stupid or thought of myself.
00:09:35.200 We need to do a Freedom of Information Act request to the city
00:09:37.800 to see how much of our taxpayers' money they sent pursuing me over these two guns.
00:09:43.400 It's just outrageous.
00:09:44.320 Yeah.
00:09:44.960 By the way, that's a very interesting idea indeed.
00:09:48.400 So now none of it happened.
00:09:51.060 They still have your gun.
00:09:53.000 They're still spiteful.
00:09:54.920 And it sounds like the appellate court is filled with Marxists.
00:10:00.480 Have they descended to the level of going after thought yet,
00:10:04.820 or are they leaving it at where it is right now,
00:10:08.860 just ideological confrontation?
00:10:11.820 You know, right now in our Bar Association,
00:10:14.120 and by the way, this is the 80th anniversary of the Missouri Bar Association.
00:10:17.840 It was 80 years ago that the Missouri Supreme Court gave the Bar Association
00:10:21.940 the power over us that it now has.
00:10:24.800 The power of the Bar Association controls who gets to practice law,
00:10:28.480 how you get to practice it.
00:10:29.840 And now in order to keep your license,
00:10:31.540 part of our continuing legal education requirement is to take diversity,
00:10:35.780 equity, and inclusion classes, if you can believe that.
00:10:38.540 You no longer have the freedom in Missouri to practice law if you don't believe in DEI.
00:10:47.200 And you have to have it forced down your throat.
00:10:49.640 And so, and of course, the judges are lawyers.
00:10:53.400 They're members of the Bar just like I am,
00:10:55.820 and they're subject to the same requirements.
00:10:57.640 And so, the left infiltrates every aspect of our society.
00:11:03.360 It infiltrates law and medicine and education and, of course, politics.
00:11:08.000 And the people that tend to rise to the top in every organization
00:11:11.400 are the people that don't have real lives, right?
00:11:13.800 They're the people that spend their lives being busy bodies
00:11:17.580 and trying to push other people around.
00:11:19.580 And they're typically unhappy people
00:11:21.580 that have not achieved for themselves through merit
00:11:25.880 what they can achieve through intimidation.
00:11:28.380 So, it's like that in every aspect of the government.
00:11:31.280 And as you well know, and as you're an advocate for it too,
00:11:34.040 this is our last chance to change that,
00:11:36.840 to get Donald Trump elected and have a genuine house cleaning.
00:11:40.260 You know, just clear house at the Department of Justice,
00:11:43.180 clear house at the FBI,
00:11:45.820 and de-weaponize our judicial system.
00:11:48.160 So, I'd like to take up that business with the Bar Association.
00:11:53.320 The courts turned over power,
00:11:55.920 which they didn't possess, to a Bar Association.
00:11:59.620 Is that correct?
00:12:00.740 Yeah, I think that if my memory serves,
00:12:02.800 it was like 127 Missouri lawyers got together
00:12:05.720 at a country club in Kansas City 80 years ago
00:12:08.420 and formed the Missouri Bar Association,
00:12:10.740 which now has absolute life and death power
00:12:12.820 over a bar license.
00:12:13.960 Well, why doesn't somebody sue and nullify that decision
00:12:21.260 on the basis of, first of all,
00:12:23.180 I mean, it sounds to me absurd
00:12:24.720 that a court is turning over to an association
00:12:30.720 that has just spawned from the mire
00:12:34.780 and now has control over the legal profession
00:12:39.860 that has control over laws and their enforcement
00:12:43.700 and their adjudication.
00:12:45.400 That just sounds mad to me.
00:12:47.600 Well, and yet, in all 50 states,
00:12:49.420 there's a Bar Association that wields that power.
00:12:52.580 You know, when the Bar Association started
00:12:54.660 to take action against my license,
00:12:56.740 I started to wonder why it is that we,
00:12:58.920 as attorneys, have ceded the control
00:13:01.740 over our own practice
00:13:02.720 to, you know, basically bureaucrats.
00:13:06.440 I don't know how many people
00:13:08.300 and how many members of the Bar
00:13:09.400 actually vote for the Bar president,
00:13:12.600 vice president,
00:13:13.720 but our real ability to practice
00:13:15.540 is run by something called
00:13:17.220 the Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel,
00:13:19.600 which is an unelected bureaucrat
00:13:21.360 that wields absolute control
00:13:23.260 over your law license
00:13:24.460 and your ability to practice law.
00:13:26.460 And then the Chief Disciplinary Officer
00:13:29.500 told the Supreme Court
00:13:31.140 that what I did and what my wife did
00:13:33.400 in defending our home
00:13:34.360 against an Antifa mob
00:13:36.040 that was threatening to kill us,
00:13:37.580 but that what we did
00:13:38.380 was a crime of moral turpitude
00:13:40.880 that we lacked the moral standing
00:13:42.620 to be lawyers anymore
00:13:43.560 and asked the Supreme Court of Missouri
00:13:45.360 to suspend our bar license.
00:13:47.720 And that's the power that one guy
00:13:49.920 who'd been in that position for decades
00:13:52.380 was able to wield over his ordinary lawyer.
00:13:56.700 So we basically have a pretense
00:14:00.440 in terms of the Bar Association,
00:14:03.160 the legal profession,
00:14:04.360 the courts,
00:14:05.420 there is a power guiding all of it.
00:14:08.720 Sure is shooting.
00:14:10.100 Yeah, absolutely.
00:14:11.560 No pun intended, Mark.
00:14:13.080 No, I, you know,
00:14:15.100 I'll harken back to what you said
00:14:16.860 just a minute ago.
00:14:18.220 I think that there is a cause
00:14:20.160 to try to have there be
00:14:21.280 an attorney's revolt
00:14:23.340 against the power structure
00:14:25.120 that constrains us.
00:14:26.820 There ought to be a people's revolt,
00:14:28.380 in my opinion,
00:14:29.200 because this is just,
00:14:30.160 to me, unconscionable.
00:14:32.500 It's certainly not representative
00:14:34.040 and not the American way.
00:14:35.980 We're talking with Mark Baclosky.
00:14:37.860 We'll continue in just one moment.
00:14:39.800 Stay with us.
00:14:40.480 We'll be right back
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00:16:19.260 We're back.
00:16:20.400 We're talking
00:16:20.760 with Mark McCloskey
00:16:21.940 and we're talking
00:16:22.960 about the sad state
00:16:25.240 of the law profession
00:16:26.900 and the courts,
00:16:30.480 the prosecution,
00:16:31.900 the politics
00:16:33.340 of this country
00:16:34.080 right now.
00:16:35.380 It is just insidious,
00:16:38.160 the power of the Marxists
00:16:39.940 in every walk of life,
00:16:41.240 as you said, Mark.
00:16:42.600 And whether it's the law,
00:16:44.940 whether it's education,
00:16:46.100 whether it's higher education,
00:16:47.280 academia,
00:16:49.020 government,
00:16:50.740 political parties,
00:16:52.660 the Marxists
00:16:53.780 have made themselves
00:16:54.660 felt,
00:16:55.440 as they would say.
00:16:56.960 And I don't know
00:16:58.440 that there is
00:16:59.020 a ready
00:16:59.780 solution at hand
00:17:01.680 for when
00:17:02.720 President Trump
00:17:03.500 takes office
00:17:04.200 on January 20th
00:17:05.400 of 2025,
00:17:06.820 as it appears
00:17:07.420 he will do.
00:17:08.420 Your thoughts?
00:17:09.820 Well, you know,
00:17:10.200 right now,
00:17:11.060 what he needs to do
00:17:11.960 when he gets elected
00:17:12.640 is he needs to fire
00:17:13.720 every single person
00:17:14.820 in the Department of Justice.
00:17:16.240 When he got elected
00:17:17.700 in 2016,
00:17:18.680 I don't think he realized
00:17:19.820 how vicious
00:17:20.800 and how unsympathetic
00:17:23.400 the left is
00:17:24.220 that they will not
00:17:25.180 be reasonable.
00:17:26.180 You can't give them
00:17:26.940 an even break
00:17:27.660 and expect them
00:17:28.340 to return the favor.
00:17:29.660 If you give them an inch,
00:17:30.760 they just consider
00:17:31.480 a weakness
00:17:31.900 and they want to
00:17:32.400 pull that mile.
00:17:33.540 So what he needs to do
00:17:34.340 is just fire everybody down,
00:17:35.920 every state U.S. attorney,
00:17:38.800 every assistant U.S. attorney,
00:17:40.340 and fill those roles
00:17:41.740 with people
00:17:42.220 that will actually be
00:17:43.120 neutral arbiters
00:17:44.400 of the law,
00:17:44.860 neutral enforcers
00:17:46.220 of federal statutes.
00:17:47.600 And I do the same thing
00:17:48.520 with the FBI.
00:17:49.740 And by the way,
00:17:50.260 the FBI now
00:17:50.980 is involved in everything.
00:17:52.460 And by the way,
00:17:53.200 you have,
00:17:53.780 and I'll say my normal beef
00:17:55.580 about the current
00:17:56.200 Speaker of the House,
00:17:57.540 Mike Johnson
00:17:58.120 was a deciding vote
00:17:59.640 that did not require
00:18:01.140 the federal government
00:18:01.940 to have a warrant
00:18:02.700 to spy on its own citizens.
00:18:04.900 I mean,
00:18:05.420 the police department
00:18:06.120 needs to have a warrant
00:18:06.880 to search your car,
00:18:08.560 and yet here,
00:18:09.020 the federal government
00:18:09.740 can spy on your
00:18:10.700 telephone communications
00:18:11.740 and everything
00:18:12.340 without a warrant,
00:18:13.480 and it's the Republican
00:18:14.560 that casts
00:18:15.200 the deciding vote on that.
00:18:16.820 So you've got to clean house.
00:18:18.760 You've got to make sure
00:18:19.500 that everybody
00:18:20.440 in every position,
00:18:22.060 in every appointed job,
00:18:23.340 in every cabinet position,
00:18:24.800 every sub-cabinet post,
00:18:26.420 every local assistant
00:18:28.520 U.S. attorney
00:18:29.540 are people
00:18:30.360 that will actually
00:18:31.060 do their job
00:18:32.220 rather than imposing
00:18:33.120 their ideology.
00:18:34.820 I think that's
00:18:35.800 a terrific idea.
00:18:36.800 And when you mentioned
00:18:37.380 the Speaker,
00:18:38.520 I have to tell you
00:18:39.620 that the hairs
00:18:40.320 on the back
00:18:40.940 of my neck go up
00:18:41.880 because that man
00:18:43.480 has done more damage
00:18:44.940 than I think
00:18:45.980 the American people
00:18:47.240 are even aware of,
00:18:48.480 whether it be
00:18:48.900 a $1.5 trillion
00:18:49.900 omnibus
00:18:50.780 instead of
00:18:51.920 constraining spending,
00:18:54.280 he simply accelerated it
00:18:56.020 in league
00:18:56.820 with the President
00:18:57.680 and Schumer
00:18:59.500 and Hakeem Jeffries.
00:19:01.220 It is outrageous
00:19:02.280 what he's gotten away with
00:19:03.560 and the duplicity
00:19:05.100 with which he operates.
00:19:06.620 This man may not
00:19:07.680 be an effective leader,
00:19:09.000 but he is one slimy politician
00:19:11.760 as far as I'm concerned
00:19:13.000 and people really need
00:19:14.340 to call him out for it.
00:19:15.440 The President
00:19:15.980 is being nice about it
00:19:17.240 and I understand
00:19:18.560 whatever the influences
00:19:20.360 may be around him,
00:19:21.600 but I do not understand
00:19:23.300 any more toleration
00:19:24.880 of Marxist Dems
00:19:26.840 in the form
00:19:27.740 of rhino Republicans.
00:19:29.580 And either way,
00:19:30.700 that includes
00:19:31.860 Kevin McCarthy
00:19:32.720 who is seemingly
00:19:34.160 getting closer
00:19:35.000 to the President
00:19:35.740 as he campaigns
00:19:37.000 and I find that
00:19:39.440 noxious
00:19:40.060 and disappointing.
00:19:41.540 Your thoughts?
00:19:42.460 Well, you know,
00:19:43.400 one of my friends,
00:19:45.940 Eric Burleson,
00:19:46.780 got elected to Congress
00:19:47.740 as a freshman congressman
00:19:48.880 in the last cycle.
00:19:50.020 And after he'd been
00:19:50.820 in Washington
00:19:51.520 for a couple of months,
00:19:52.380 I called him up
00:19:53.000 and asked him,
00:19:54.200 you know,
00:19:54.760 is it what you anticipated?
00:19:56.500 And his basic response was,
00:19:58.500 you know,
00:19:58.720 it's very frustrating
00:19:59.640 because out of 435 congressmen,
00:20:02.020 there's maybe 20 or 30
00:20:03.580 that are real
00:20:04.480 constitutional conservatives.
00:20:05.960 And it's very difficult
00:20:07.460 that the vast majority
00:20:09.460 of them are there
00:20:10.020 to do one thing
00:20:11.680 and that's get reelected.
00:20:13.140 The rest of them
00:20:13.620 are there to answer
00:20:15.040 to their lobbyists.
00:20:16.380 And, you know,
00:20:17.740 getting along
00:20:18.540 is not necessarily
00:20:19.840 the best thing
00:20:20.440 in the world.
00:20:20.900 If getting along
00:20:21.680 means you have to
00:20:22.380 forfeit your
00:20:22.980 constitutional rights,
00:20:24.240 if meeting somebody
00:20:25.020 in the middle
00:20:25.460 means you have to,
00:20:26.420 if the middle
00:20:27.580 is just slightly
00:20:28.840 to the left
00:20:29.460 of Fidel Castro,
00:20:30.660 the meeting in the middle
00:20:31.520 should not be your goal.
00:20:33.440 Right now,
00:20:33.920 we're in a crisis point
00:20:34.880 in this country.
00:20:35.820 We're right at the edge
00:20:37.560 of not being able
00:20:38.740 to control
00:20:39.520 our liberties anymore
00:20:41.020 that we will cede
00:20:42.100 so much power
00:20:42.860 to the federal government
00:20:43.680 that we'll never
00:20:44.840 get it back.
00:20:45.820 If we lose
00:20:46.500 this election cycle,
00:20:47.340 well, by the way,
00:20:47.840 let me digress.
00:20:49.460 I think that Trump
00:20:50.680 has been suffering
00:20:51.700 from a lot
00:20:52.920 of bad advice
00:20:53.820 as to who he can trust
00:20:55.760 and who he can't trust
00:20:56.680 in other positions.
00:20:58.060 I mean,
00:20:58.600 and I will say this,
00:20:59.820 you know,
00:21:00.060 everybody's touting
00:21:00.880 J.D. Vance
00:21:02.000 is a potential
00:21:02.640 vice president.
00:21:03.760 Well, J.D. Vance
00:21:04.580 was a never-Trumper.
00:21:06.780 J.D. Vance
00:21:07.340 had said
00:21:08.240 that Trump
00:21:09.260 was a real danger
00:21:10.120 of the United States.
00:21:11.360 And, you know,
00:21:11.720 when you see people
00:21:12.800 change their color
00:21:15.020 based on the direction
00:21:16.660 that the wind blows,
00:21:18.240 you can't trust those people.
00:21:20.120 You can't.
00:21:21.320 You and I can't.
00:21:22.740 I think most Americans can't.
00:21:25.060 But for whatever reason,
00:21:26.240 once in office,
00:21:28.080 a man or woman
00:21:29.560 makes some peculiar decisions
00:21:31.760 that are not immediately obvious
00:21:34.400 to those of us
00:21:36.460 who are mere citizens.
00:21:39.060 And, you know,
00:21:40.180 let's be honest.
00:21:41.180 I mean, you mentioned it.
00:21:42.720 But the reality,
00:21:43.600 we are not only far
00:21:44.560 from being able
00:21:45.300 to control our government
00:21:46.380 and our liberties
00:21:47.560 as a result,
00:21:48.900 we are getting more distant
00:21:50.540 by the day
00:21:51.420 as this Biden regime
00:21:53.460 continues,
00:21:54.380 unabated,
00:21:55.320 without any hesitation
00:21:58.920 driving the same policies
00:22:01.580 that got us
00:22:02.260 into this mess
00:22:02.920 that we're in economically
00:22:03.980 in terms of foreign policy
00:22:05.880 and certainly in terms
00:22:07.440 of domestic policy.
00:22:09.100 And we're sitting back
00:22:09.780 right now
00:22:10.240 in the middle of a coup.
00:22:12.180 I called it
00:22:12.680 when I was running
00:22:13.120 for the Senate,
00:22:13.980 I called it a coup
00:22:14.660 by subpoena.
00:22:15.580 But it's worse than that now.
00:22:16.720 It's actually a coup
00:22:17.540 by actual prosecution
00:22:18.820 and imprisonment.
00:22:20.360 They want to send
00:22:21.140 Donald Trump to prison.
00:22:23.380 Steve Bannon
00:22:24.160 is going to start
00:22:24.720 a prison term
00:22:25.340 here pretty shortly.
00:22:26.200 And guess what?
00:22:26.920 Four months
00:22:27.520 from the beginning
00:22:28.120 of his prison sentence
00:22:29.560 will take him
00:22:30.380 up to the election
00:22:31.100 to disarm that.
00:22:33.240 Peter Navarro
00:22:34.040 is sitting in prison.
00:22:35.300 Rudy Giuliani,
00:22:36.520 John Eastman,
00:22:37.380 all these people
00:22:38.180 are subject
00:22:39.540 to criminal prosecution
00:22:40.640 now for merely
00:22:41.340 doing their job
00:22:42.340 as lawyers
00:22:43.220 and as appointees
00:22:44.900 of the president.
00:22:46.020 And when you've got
00:22:47.340 a Justice Department
00:22:48.760 and an FBI
00:22:49.580 and a federal bureaucracy,
00:22:51.360 which is literally
00:22:52.360 decapitating
00:22:53.320 the Republican Party,
00:22:55.180 then that's no different
00:22:56.580 than any third-rate
00:22:57.760 banana republic.
00:22:59.240 And the American people
00:23:00.160 are just sitting back
00:23:00.880 and kind of saying,
00:23:01.580 oh, you know,
00:23:02.720 you better watch that stuff.
00:23:04.360 But this is a revolution
00:23:05.760 going on right now.
00:23:06.560 This is a coup
00:23:07.320 happening right before our eyes.
00:23:09.620 And, you know,
00:23:10.360 we just have to not tolerate it.
00:23:12.700 You hate to think of this
00:23:14.020 as being the end,
00:23:15.680 but this is the end.
00:23:16.880 Once the power is at be,
00:23:18.780 once the deep state
00:23:19.740 starts actually imprisoning
00:23:21.880 their political opponents
00:23:23.280 on complete BS,
00:23:24.920 I mean,
00:23:25.260 fabricated charges,
00:23:26.800 then that's the end of it.
00:23:28.640 You cannot recover from that.
00:23:30.780 We're talking with
00:23:31.760 Mark McCloskey,
00:23:32.720 and when we continue,
00:23:33.760 we're going to be talking about,
00:23:35.340 well,
00:23:35.760 we know what's happening to us.
00:23:37.940 What can we do to them?
00:23:39.740 And how should we proceed?
00:23:41.680 And in what way
00:23:42.960 can we regain influence
00:23:45.360 over our government,
00:23:46.760 perhaps even demand
00:23:48.780 and insist
00:23:49.980 on the consent of the governed?
00:23:52.300 And by the way,
00:23:53.620 is there anything we can do
00:23:55.300 to put up a large,
00:23:57.500 large wall
00:23:58.960 around our rights
00:24:00.540 and preserve
00:24:01.580 our prerogatives
00:24:02.620 as Americans?
00:24:03.820 We'll be right back.
00:24:04.820 We're talking with Mark McCloskey.
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00:24:40.840 We're back.
00:24:41.720 We're talking with
00:24:42.360 Mark McCloskey.
00:24:43.380 And Mark,
00:24:43.740 I want to get
00:24:44.360 to the point
00:24:44.860 you were making,
00:24:45.520 and that is
00:24:46.480 the frustration
00:24:47.140 of the American people.
00:24:48.980 A CBS News poll
00:24:51.820 over the weekend
00:24:53.140 showing 62%
00:24:54.900 of Americans,
00:24:55.860 62%,
00:24:57.520 want every illegal alien
00:25:00.460 brought into this country
00:25:01.560 since Joe Biden
00:25:02.400 took office
00:25:03.120 deported.
00:25:04.720 I've never seen
00:25:05.820 that number
00:25:06.440 that high
00:25:07.240 at anything
00:25:08.140 close to that.
00:25:09.460 that's a really
00:25:10.760 remarkable number.
00:25:13.080 It also shows
00:25:14.280 the frustration
00:25:14.940 with both
00:25:15.580 this idiotic regime,
00:25:18.220 the preposterous
00:25:19.660 policies they're pushing,
00:25:21.820 and the helplessness
00:25:24.260 of the American people
00:25:25.320 to change the direction
00:25:26.900 of the country
00:25:27.460 right now.
00:25:28.020 And, you know,
00:25:29.900 so what does Congress
00:25:31.020 do?
00:25:31.340 And I like Jim Jordan,
00:25:32.380 I like Jamie Coleman,
00:25:33.300 but I mean,
00:25:33.640 they hold hearings
00:25:34.340 and they send out
00:25:35.360 strongly worded letters
00:25:36.460 and they do criminal
00:25:37.660 referrals,
00:25:38.180 but who are you going
00:25:39.140 to refer Merrick Garland
00:25:40.180 to, right?
00:25:40.600 Is he going to go out
00:25:41.240 and arrest himself?
00:25:42.680 What the American people,
00:25:44.140 why we're frustrated
00:25:45.020 is we don't see
00:25:46.100 any real change.
00:25:47.960 If Donald Trump
00:25:48.880 gets reelected,
00:25:49.680 and I believe he will,
00:25:51.000 I think what needs
00:25:51.720 to happen is we need
00:25:52.640 to get real investigations.
00:25:54.160 For example,
00:25:55.740 investigate all the
00:25:56.760 relationships between
00:25:57.840 the Biden White House
00:25:59.140 and Alvin Bragg
00:26:00.100 and Letitia James
00:26:01.100 and Fannie Willis
00:26:02.340 and fill in the blank,
00:26:03.220 all these other
00:26:03.800 Soros prosecutors
00:26:05.080 under,
00:26:07.360 determine the conspiracy
00:26:09.580 that they engaged in
00:26:10.860 to undermine
00:26:11.480 our civil rights,
00:26:12.720 to undermine Donald Trump,
00:26:14.900 to interfere with the election,
00:26:17.100 and then charge them
00:26:18.200 criminally
00:26:18.720 with that conspiracy,
00:26:20.420 charge them criminally
00:26:21.260 with attempting
00:26:22.220 to influence the election,
00:26:23.440 and have them
00:26:24.620 actually go to jail.
00:26:26.100 The thing that people
00:26:26.920 get frustrated about
00:26:27.920 is that, you know,
00:26:28.880 if an ordinary citizen
00:26:29.860 goes to the 7-Eleven
00:26:31.300 in the old days
00:26:31.980 and steals a six-pack of beer,
00:26:33.880 they'll go to jail.
00:26:34.760 But if you're in Congress,
00:26:36.160 you can do whatever
00:26:36.880 your darn world please.
00:26:37.740 You can be Adam Schiff
00:26:38.720 and just lie your,
00:26:40.260 you know what,
00:26:40.860 off to the American people
00:26:41.840 with absolute impunity.
00:26:43.580 You can steal
00:26:44.340 hundreds of millions
00:26:45.740 of dollars
00:26:46.260 if you're in the,
00:26:47.440 you know,
00:26:47.620 a defense contractor
00:26:48.640 of billions
00:26:49.280 without going to jail.
00:26:50.940 And if you're
00:26:51.360 President of the United States,
00:26:52.580 you can persecute
00:26:55.340 your political opponents
00:26:56.360 through the exercise
00:26:57.160 of your power
00:26:58.320 and influence
00:26:58.960 over the Justice Department
00:27:00.160 and the FBI,
00:27:01.500 and nothing ever
00:27:03.260 really happens.
00:27:04.260 So that's what frustrates
00:27:05.160 everybody.
00:27:05.860 So I think we need
00:27:06.360 to have real investigations
00:27:07.480 that end in actual
00:27:09.860 criminal conspiracies.
00:27:11.460 And, you know,
00:27:12.020 AOC is worried
00:27:12.820 that she's going to go
00:27:13.480 to jail if Trump
00:27:14.160 gets elected.
00:27:15.140 Well, I'd like to know
00:27:15.900 what she's afraid of
00:27:17.520 is going to be found out.
00:27:18.740 But I know
00:27:19.700 that we're going
00:27:20.640 to find out
00:27:21.260 that Alvin Bragg
00:27:22.740 and Fannie Willis
00:27:23.820 and Letitia James
00:27:24.660 in fact inspired
00:27:25.700 to the White House
00:27:26.360 to get Donald Trump.
00:27:28.120 And that's illegal.
00:27:29.700 That's a felony.
00:27:30.920 And they ought to be,
00:27:31.720 they ought to actually
00:27:32.260 have to go to jail for it.
00:27:33.520 If there were
00:27:34.020 some real results,
00:27:35.560 people would be less
00:27:36.360 willing to engage
00:27:37.040 in that kind of criminal
00:27:37.800 life too.
00:27:38.640 Yeah,
00:27:39.260 accountability
00:27:40.180 is absolutely essential.
00:27:42.660 And the Republicans
00:27:44.180 have just played
00:27:45.080 the game.
00:27:45.580 and the RINOs
00:27:47.160 particularly,
00:27:48.060 the majority
00:27:48.540 of the conference
00:27:49.380 in point of fact
00:27:50.020 in the House.
00:27:51.280 And I think
00:27:52.620 certainly in the Senate
00:27:53.740 we don't find,
00:27:56.240 as you pointed out,
00:27:57.540 some conservative Republicans,
00:27:59.560 constitutional conservatives
00:28:00.900 who would lead the party.
00:28:04.440 I really am very worried
00:28:06.920 for the future
00:28:08.540 of the country.
00:28:09.660 And we've got to do
00:28:11.140 something about it.
00:28:12.280 And to that end,
00:28:13.540 what do we do?
00:28:15.000 Because November 5th,
00:28:17.060 that's coming at us
00:28:18.060 like a freight train.
00:28:19.160 And I hope that we get
00:28:20.580 enough votes.
00:28:21.160 And I hope we have
00:28:22.100 so many votes
00:28:23.300 that there is no question
00:28:24.320 about it.
00:28:25.180 But if we fail
00:28:27.500 in that moment,
00:28:28.900 we are,
00:28:30.160 we deserve
00:28:30.780 whatever we get.
00:28:32.200 I absolutely agree, Lou.
00:28:34.080 You know,
00:28:34.280 I always quote that part
00:28:35.280 of the Declaration
00:28:35.900 of Independence
00:28:36.600 after talking about
00:28:38.280 life, liberty,
00:28:39.020 and the pursuit
00:28:39.420 of happiness.
00:28:39.940 It says that
00:28:40.960 to secure these rights,
00:28:42.160 governments are instituted
00:28:43.260 among men
00:28:43.880 deriving their just powers
00:28:45.580 from the consent
00:28:46.320 of the governed.
00:28:47.300 And this is a government
00:28:48.280 by the consent
00:28:49.020 of the governed.
00:28:49.960 We just are consenting
00:28:51.340 to everything bad
00:28:52.380 that's happening.
00:28:53.340 When we see
00:28:54.040 the Justice Department
00:28:56.000 being weaponized,
00:28:56.940 we know that the FBI
00:28:58.760 is listening to our phone calls.
00:29:00.260 When we know that the NSA
00:29:01.420 listens to everything
00:29:02.320 we're saying.
00:29:03.200 When we know that they
00:29:04.060 will fake up evidence
00:29:05.100 against you
00:29:05.760 that puts you in jail.
00:29:06.920 I always use
00:29:07.640 Mike Lindell
00:29:08.680 as an analogy.
00:29:11.240 Here's Mike.
00:29:11.780 He's at a drive-thru
00:29:12.500 restaurant at 2 o'clock
00:29:13.560 in the morning
00:29:14.000 and the FBI pulls up
00:29:15.540 ahead of him
00:29:16.240 and behind him
00:29:16.820 and blocks him in.
00:29:17.920 And they want his cell phone.
00:29:19.840 And now you've got a quandary,
00:29:21.420 right?
00:29:21.900 Because you know
00:29:22.600 that if you give them
00:29:23.380 your cell phone,
00:29:24.720 they're likely to place
00:29:26.060 fake information on it
00:29:27.600 to cause you trouble
00:29:28.720 and prosecute you.
00:29:29.800 If you don't cough up
00:29:30.940 your cell phone,
00:29:31.800 they're going to charge you
00:29:32.640 with obstruction of justice.
00:29:34.180 It's heads they win,
00:29:35.080 tails you lose.
00:29:35.800 And that's really
00:29:36.700 the environment
00:29:37.280 we're in right now.
00:29:38.100 So I have been toying
00:29:42.080 with this idea.
00:29:43.420 Let's say on July the 11th,
00:29:46.360 four days before
00:29:47.080 the Republican Convention,
00:29:48.800 Juan Machan wants
00:29:49.860 to have Donald Trump
00:29:51.280 put in jail
00:29:52.180 until the convention is over
00:29:54.520 or maybe until
00:29:55.400 the election is over.
00:29:56.760 What if 100,000
00:29:57.940 American citizens
00:29:58.900 ring Donald Trump
00:30:00.800 and refuse to let
00:30:01.900 the federal government
00:30:02.620 come in and arrest him?
00:30:03.980 You know,
00:30:04.360 that would be
00:30:05.060 an indication
00:30:05.880 that the American people
00:30:07.220 are withdrawing
00:30:07.880 that consent
00:30:08.400 because there's got
00:30:09.560 to be something
00:30:10.080 we can do.
00:30:11.160 I have,
00:30:12.060 I start every speech
00:30:12.980 these days
00:30:13.520 with this question
00:30:14.220 to the audience,
00:30:14.820 whether it's 100 people
00:30:16.000 or 1,000 people.
00:30:17.080 And that is,
00:30:17.860 how many people here
00:30:18.620 believe that there's
00:30:19.820 a political solution
00:30:20.820 to our current crisis?
00:30:22.580 And 37 times
00:30:23.940 now that I've made
00:30:24.560 that speech,
00:30:25.340 three hands have gone up
00:30:26.520 and two of them
00:30:27.300 didn't understand
00:30:27.900 the question.
00:30:28.940 And I think that's
00:30:29.620 a very,
00:30:30.380 very dangerous sign,
00:30:31.740 but a realistic one.
00:30:34.200 I think you're right.
00:30:35.300 And that's what
00:30:36.120 I'm getting at here
00:30:37.080 is I don't see,
00:30:39.680 I don't see
00:30:40.420 a political solution
00:30:41.580 in point of fact
00:30:42.820 that Trump is not elected.
00:30:45.160 I don't see
00:30:45.900 a political solution
00:30:46.920 if Kevin McCarthy
00:30:48.440 is his chief of staff.
00:30:49.740 I don't see
00:30:50.620 a political solution
00:30:51.680 if Mike Johnson
00:30:53.400 remains Speaker
00:30:54.140 of the House.
00:30:54.960 I don't see
00:30:55.760 a political solution
00:30:57.220 unless he has
00:30:58.920 complete support
00:31:00.020 from the moneyed class
00:31:02.200 in this country,
00:31:02.940 the oligarchs,
00:31:04.120 the billionaires.
00:31:05.300 And what I see him doing
00:31:06.580 that really disturbs me
00:31:08.080 is he is moving
00:31:09.480 toward them
00:31:10.360 when he is associating
00:31:12.000 with Kevin McCarthy.
00:31:13.160 He's moving toward them
00:31:15.020 when he is supporting
00:31:16.400 Mike Johnson
00:31:17.140 instead of the very people
00:31:18.920 who made him president
00:31:20.020 in 2016.
00:31:21.960 And by the way,
00:31:22.840 I believe in 2020 as well.
00:31:24.920 But the reality is
00:31:26.680 that he has
00:31:29.340 an opportunity here
00:31:30.380 to change the direction
00:31:32.160 of the country,
00:31:32.780 but not if he decides
00:31:34.980 that compromise
00:31:36.260 is the path forward
00:31:37.840 against a
00:31:39.120 Marxist
00:31:40.200 Democrat party,
00:31:42.140 which is
00:31:42.780 farther left
00:31:44.100 than anything
00:31:44.440 we've ever witnessed
00:31:45.180 in this country,
00:31:45.940 and a Republican party,
00:31:48.980 half of which
00:31:49.960 at least
00:31:50.600 want to be Democrats.
00:31:53.280 He has to have
00:31:54.740 a very smart
00:31:55.880 group of counselors
00:31:57.000 and policy direction.
00:31:59.460 But the problem,
00:32:00.820 of course,
00:32:01.100 is you can't
00:32:01.740 bargain with
00:32:03.100 or negotiate
00:32:03.700 with the people
00:32:04.380 on the left.
00:32:05.240 You have to accept
00:32:05.980 the fact that
00:32:07.020 evil is real
00:32:08.940 and these people
00:32:09.680 are evil.
00:32:10.160 They're not misguided.
00:32:11.360 They're not stupid.
00:32:12.060 Every time I hear
00:32:12.660 somebody on Fox
00:32:13.480 or Newsmax
00:32:14.040 talk about
00:32:15.120 some liberal Democrat
00:32:16.760 as being stupid
00:32:18.100 or confused,
00:32:19.040 they're not stupid
00:32:19.800 or confused.
00:32:20.520 They know exactly
00:32:21.300 what they're doing.
00:32:22.300 They're doing
00:32:22.760 everything they can
00:32:23.740 to undermine
00:32:24.280 Western civilization,
00:32:25.920 undermine individual liberty,
00:32:27.160 and create that goal
00:32:28.860 that's been theirs
00:32:29.520 for a very long time now,
00:32:31.220 which is a single world
00:32:32.260 socialist government
00:32:33.100 run by the elites.
00:32:35.120 You can't negotiate
00:32:36.240 with them
00:32:36.640 because they have
00:32:37.340 no desire whatsoever
00:32:38.620 to meet you halfway.
00:32:40.260 You come towards them
00:32:41.280 and they'll accept you.
00:32:42.720 And that's a real,
00:32:44.400 real problem.
00:32:44.920 That has been
00:32:46.060 the source
00:32:46.940 of this progression
00:32:48.200 of the left
00:32:48.680 for as long
00:32:49.140 as I've been alive.
00:32:50.420 And the only way
00:32:51.340 to stop it
00:32:51.920 is to have
00:32:52.420 a genuine revolution
00:32:54.200 on the part
00:32:54.760 of the people
00:32:55.240 and whether that
00:32:56.060 revolution comes
00:32:57.000 from a massive vote.
00:32:58.760 I mean,
00:32:58.980 as you may know,
00:33:00.760 my wife and I
00:33:01.360 campaigned for President Trump
00:33:02.660 extensively in Pennsylvania
00:33:04.020 in the 2020 cycle.
00:33:06.240 And we had
00:33:07.900 tremendous turnouts.
00:33:09.440 You'd drive into town
00:33:10.260 on the Team Trump bus
00:33:11.220 and the streets
00:33:12.120 would be lined
00:33:12.640 with cheering fans
00:33:13.580 and you'd get off
00:33:14.220 and they'd be cheering
00:33:15.460 and you'd make
00:33:15.880 your presentation,
00:33:17.600 sign autographs,
00:33:18.880 shake hands,
00:33:19.520 get back on the bus
00:33:20.260 and go to the next one.
00:33:21.480 No Biden signs
00:33:22.440 anywhere we'd see.
00:33:23.500 The last big thing
00:33:24.480 we did was a rally
00:33:26.160 in eastern Pennsylvania
00:33:27.040 where we drew
00:33:28.560 so many people
00:33:29.260 that the leftist governor,
00:33:30.480 Tom Wolfe,
00:33:30.940 shut us down.
00:33:32.040 We did a pop-up rally
00:33:33.120 one county away
00:33:34.020 with no lead,
00:33:35.380 no publicity,
00:33:36.880 no nothing.
00:33:37.700 We drove through
00:33:38.480 450 people.
00:33:40.460 Three weeks later,
00:33:41.500 Joe Biden's
00:33:42.060 on that same stage.
00:33:43.340 After three weeks
00:33:44.120 of publicity,
00:33:45.100 three weeks of promo,
00:33:46.380 he had eight,
00:33:47.320 count them,
00:33:47.800 eight people.
00:33:48.880 And we're supposed
00:33:49.780 to believe we lost
00:33:50.580 Pennsylvania.
00:33:51.120 And how do you
00:33:52.260 get past that?
00:33:53.520 And how would you
00:33:54.100 ever restore
00:33:56.100 the American people's
00:33:57.080 faith in the electoral
00:33:57.880 process if that happens
00:33:59.420 a second time?
00:34:01.940 I think the answer
00:34:03.380 to that,
00:34:03.920 Mark,
00:34:04.160 straightforwardly,
00:34:05.220 is that no longer
00:34:07.500 will their frustrations
00:34:10.400 or discontent matter.
00:34:12.860 The Marxist dams
00:34:13.920 will be in control
00:34:14.760 of our government
00:34:15.400 and our future
00:34:16.480 as a nation.
00:34:17.900 Mark McCloskey,
00:34:19.000 thanks so much
00:34:19.660 for being with us.
00:34:20.380 As always,
00:34:20.980 we appreciate you
00:34:22.100 joining us
00:34:22.640 and enjoy always
00:34:24.180 the conversation.
00:34:25.180 Thanks, Mark.
00:34:25.560 I appreciate it.
00:34:26.700 I'm always a bluebird
00:34:27.620 of happiness,
00:34:28.260 aren't I?
00:34:28.880 You are indeed,
00:34:30.060 and we're proud
00:34:31.800 of you for that.
00:34:33.320 Happiness should be
00:34:34.260 genuine and real,
00:34:35.460 and yours is all that
00:34:36.980 and very realistic.
00:34:38.820 Thanks so much.
00:34:39.720 Thank you, Lou.
00:34:40.360 Take care.
00:34:41.160 Thanks to Mark McCloskey.
00:34:42.580 Thank you, everybody,
00:34:43.400 for being with us today.
00:34:45.180 And be sure to join us
00:34:46.620 tomorrow for
00:34:47.240 The Great America Show.
00:34:48.440 Our guest will be
00:34:50.000 cybersecurity expert
00:34:51.560 Mike Benz.
00:34:53.600 And be sure to join us
00:34:54.680 tonight for Lou Dobbs
00:34:55.800 tonight,
00:34:56.760 7 Eastern,
00:34:57.560 6 Central,
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00:35:02.580 Thanks, everybody.
00:35:03.840 God bless you,
00:35:04.900 and may God bless America.