The Best Of The Great America Show: December 31, 2024
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Roger Stone joins me on The Great America Show to talk about the Trump administration, the stock market, and much, much more! Roger Stone is a long time friend of mine and someone who has been with me since the early days of my political career. He is a great guy and I really enjoyed having him on the show.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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Our guest today is the great Roger Stone, weekly guest here on The Great America Show,
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great American, host of the Stone Zone podcast.
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You catch him each and every night on Rumble or thestonezone.com.
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It's great to have you back with us on The Great America Show.
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I sometimes often think that we're going to run out of things to talk about, but it
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President Trump yesterday at the New York Stock Exchange ringing in the bell.
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The thing that just keeps coming to my mind, and I tweeted this out because it's so, I
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The folks who called him Hitler, Roger, for the last nine years, for the last six years,
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the last four years, are now the same ones parading him as a hero.
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Do you think they really believed he was Hitler, or do you think they were just catering to
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a Marxist audience of people who wanted to hear that?
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Well, first of all, Zuckerberg is $449 million, because that's what he spent to heist the 2020
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And nobody should be fooled by these Silicon Valley corporate media frauds who are now sucking
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up to the man they tried desperately to destroy.
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When they put him back on Time magazine, the only previous president, and he opens the stock exchange,
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the only previous president having done so being the great Ronald Reagan, because he has
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He proved in his first term that he knew how to build what was up until that time the most
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And this has caused a new optimism in the country.
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I mean, what a great time to be alive, where you can actually see not only us destroy the
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Marxist left who just erased the U.S. Constitution, particularly our free speech, but to foment the
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ideas of freedom and the conservative values that will make America enter a golden age of peace
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and prosperity and security and justice under Donald Trump.
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You know, it's amazing to me, Roger, because if I hated somebody and I didn't like them,
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I would cover them as I cover them, but I wouldn't want to speak with them.
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But you see, I mean, we obviously saw Joe and Mika Brzezinski, but you look at now at the
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stock exchange, I say, Kramer, Jim Kramer, running up to Trump, trying to get an interview with him.
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He's bad for the markets, this, that, blah, blah, blah, all total bullshit.
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But these people now are trying to get into his inner circle.
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Do you think President Trump, and we constantly talk about this on the show, Roger, he's far
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too nice of a man, but don't take him for a fool.
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Do you think he's going to be fooled by the smoke and mirrors of people like Zuckerberg, like
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these TV talking heads who really hate him, but are just trying to save themselves now?
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And just because he says something nice to Kramer doesn't mean he's going to sit down and
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And if these people want to give millions of dollars to help Donald Trump beat them, I
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Trump is, you know, he's a pretty shrewd negotiator.
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And he does intend, of course, to be president of all the people.
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That includes the Marxist Dems who don't renounce their citizenship.
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By the way, Robert De Niro said he would leave the country if Trump was elected.
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I just want to remind him, if he needs a lift to the airport, I am available.
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I'm not sure he'd get in the car with Roger Stone.
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I see Rosie O'Donnell going out there every single day, and I don't know what she's got
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going on, but she's constantly got open wounds on her face and things.
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Can they go another four years of Trump derangement syndrome?
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I feel like, Roger, you know, at the beginning, I thought it was just like an act that these
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people hated Trump, but it seems like it's actually affecting their health.
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Can they go another four years with this hatred in their bones?
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Last week, I looked at the ratings, and Ari Melber, who is a great Roger Stone hater, had
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I did five times that on The Stone Zone, just on Rumble alone, never mind the other
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It's over, and I'm not a big fish in this podcast or this netcast world.
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But one thing is for sure, and that is power has shifted to the independent media.
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You see people like James Vander Hei, who was a founder of Politico, now owns Axios, grumbling
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Only we can be journalists, which is like, you know, is like an old man yelling at the
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But I think this new alliance of Trump and Kennedy is vitally important.
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I really think not only is Robert Kennedy going to focus on our health, including childhood
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disease, including the crap that they're putting into our foods to increase their profits, the
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process by which pharmaceutical drugs are approved to ensure that they're truly safe and effective.
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But he's also hopefully going to look at the question of the assassination of his uncle, his
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father, a presidential candidate, President Ronald Reagan, President Donald Trump.
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All of these assassinations need to be examined, I think, more closely.
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Robert Kennedy has been mentioned as potentially heading a commission to do that, declassifying
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all the documents on all those cases so we can find out what we what the American people
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Obviously, by trade, I'm not a journalist, but Lou Dobbs made me one.
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And I'm thankful that I didn't go to school to get a journalism degree because it would
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And he went around asking everybody what they went to school for.
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And Lou in front of everybody goes, John's the only one here with a real degree.
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You go to school for journalism, Roger, to learn what?
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And Lou taught me how to be an excellent writer.
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I learned what you learn in journalism school, same thing you learn in the mainstream media,
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which is Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward are two of the greatest investigative reporters that ever lived.
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Then you begin to look more closely at the great Bob Woodster, Bob Woodward, Robert Woodward of the formula of the Washington Post.
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And you realize he lies about the identity of Deep Throat and Watergate.
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He omits substantial facts about Watergate, including the fact that he himself is a naval intelligence officer who briefed General Alexander Haig in the Trump in the Nixon White House.
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We find that he lies in his book about former CIA director Bill Casey, claiming that Casey that he snuck into Casey's hotel hospital room when Casey was in the hospital for a for a brain tumor and that he spoke to Casey.
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He had appeared that Casey's doctor and his wife say the director had no capacity for speech and the CIA supplied security showed no breach of the room.
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The family of John Belushi, he did a hit job book on him.
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So the great Bob Woodward, who they tell you in the journalism schools is this great journalist, one who said that Donald Trump had been had multiple communications with Putin since leaving office,
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which turned out to be false, that Bob Woodward is who they lionize in the journalism schools.
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I haven't heard his name in a long time, but I'm on a plane in from Lisbon, Portugal two weeks ago.
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I see a guy reading a book and I was trying to see if this man was American or Spanish to see what he was reading.
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And he didn't have the cover on the book, Roger.
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So I look at the binding of the book and it was I think it's called War the War.
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Bob Woodward's latest book on Trump and I sit and I go, these people are even embarrassed to be reading it.
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You had to take the cover off the book because you don't want anyone to know what you were reading.
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They all belong in the fiction section of Barnes and Noble.
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I'm going to grab a book that deserves a little.
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But, you know, you have so many people now just able to write books, Roger, able to put out whatever the hell they want.
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And they're getting mad that Elon Musk gives us all a platform to be citizen journalists is what we are.
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You know, we're obviously not journalists by trade, but we have bigger audiences, Roger, than some of these folks.
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Paul Krugman, one of the great New York Times columnist, economist, announcing calling it quits after 25 years, putting out his last article this week, his last opinion piece titled Finding Hope in the Age of Resentment.
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So it's nice to see some of these people, Roger, are heading off into the sunset and hopefully we never see or hear from them again.
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But we're still going to have these numbskulls on CNN.
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I don't know if you saw, but two weeks ago, Caitlin Collins out to out to lunch with one of President Trump's lawyers, Todd Blanche.
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I'm not sure what Mr. Blanche thought could be gained from a meeting with a jackal like like Caitlin Collins.
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And Trump made very short work of her in that town hall was one of the great moments of American television where he didn't put up with any of her on air crap.
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Yeah. But look, it is a mistake to think that you can get any of these people to be reasonable.
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She's a knife artist and she tried to do a job on Trump and Trump ended up doing a job on her.
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I'm not sure what Todd Blanche thought was to be gained.
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I'm not sure if Todd Blanche knew he was having lunch with Caitlin.
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I often call Caitlin Collins Dylan Mulvaney because she looks just like the Bud Light transgender, but that's for a different story.
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I want to talk about Joe Biden last week or yesterday issuing the largest day of pardons in history, but he won't tell us who he pardoned.
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I also want to get his thoughts on Christopher Wray, a man who has done so much damage to an institution who Roger has also fallen victim to.
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You have these institutions that are supposed to be providing truth, justice and the American way.
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Instead, they've done nothing but the opposite and destroying democracy.
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We're coming right back with the great Roger Stone.
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We're talking with the great Roger Stone, our favorite weekly guest here on The Great America Show.
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Joe Biden yesterday issuing over 1,000 clemencies and 39 pardons, but the White House won't tell us who he's pardoning.
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Now, for someone who is chastised for receiving a pardon as yourself for doing absolutely nothing wrong, we spoke about this last week.
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Why is Joe Biden trying to hide who he's pardoning?
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Well, he won't ultimately be able to do that because there is a legal process under which documents have to be filed.
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I also, if you're given a pardon, must accept the pardon and in writing, and that'll all be a public document.
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Look, as you may recall, after January 6th, I wrote a letter to the president in which I said, prophetically, the left is going to claim anyone who questions the outcome of this election has committed a crime.
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When we all understand we have a First Amendment right to say that.
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Therefore, I suggested a blanket pardon for every Republican member of Congress, every member of his staff, every one of his surrogates, every one of his strong supporters, and so on.
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The prosecutions in Georgia, the prosecutions in Arizona, the prosecutions in Washington, D.C.
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So, and clearly the idea has been floated on the left of a pardon for Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff and Jamie Raskin and the rest of the retinue, maybe even Dr. Fauci, perhaps James Comey or even John Brennan.
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I would not be shocked to see some sweeping blanket pardon.
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You do not have to be formally charged with a crime to be pardoned.
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If you think about it, Richard Nixon had not been charged with any crime when Gerald Ford issued his binding blanket pardon for, quote, any crime he may have committed.
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As long as it is past tense, that is perfectly legal.
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So I expect that you'll see a round of pardons, some of them political, some of them may be actually worthy people who have been discriminated against.
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Look, thanks to the bill that Joe Biden signed, pardon, Joe Biden wrote, the 1994 crime bill that Bill Clinton signed, hundreds of thousands of African-Americans have been unfairly incarcerated over the first-time nonviolent crime of small amounts of drugs for personal use.
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These people belong in drug treatment programs, not in taxpayer-financed incarceration.
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They're not a danger really to anyone but themselves.
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But thanks to those policies, there are people who have served an unfair prison sentence.
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They ought to be pardoned or their sentence is commuted.
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So until we actually see what Biden has done, we won't know.
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One thing that I am going to urge the president to do is to follow through on his commitment to pardon the January 6th detainees.
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If they want, in the end, to just pardon those convicted of nonviolent crimes and commute the sentences of those convicted but unduly, longly sentenced and horrifically punished for violent crimes,
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if they want to just commute those sentences, that, too, would be justice.
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You'll recall the president said that he would pardon Ross Albrecht, the inventor of the dark net, when he spoke to the National Libertarian Convention.
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So, but clearly, Biden will set the precedent for what the president has pledged just the other day again to do,
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which is a pardon for those involved in the January 6th fiasco.
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So, yeah, you know, I'd even quibble with you on the violent crimes because these people were so overcharged.
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You don't really know if it was a violent crime anyway.
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I thought, you know, for me, I would pardon all of them.
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But look, I'm not a lawyer and the president's lawyers will advise him he'll do the right thing.
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The key thing is to get people out of this mold infested, filthy, sewage, stinking gulag in D.C.
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that they're in that is far worse than the conditions in any British or Russian prison.
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So the key is to get them out of that horrific facility.
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You know, there's a reporting that the Justice Department has declared that January 6th,
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political prisoners who accept a pardon from Donald Trump are making a, quote,
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confession of guilt in a court filing on Wednesday, federal prosecutors argued that pardons do not erase convictions as historical facts,
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but rather necessitate an admission of guilt by the recipient.
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Is that going to stand true when he eventually pardons Jim Biden?
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In my case, we now know that my trial judge hid exculpatory evidence from my attorneys that absolutely proved my innocence.
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We know this because of a lawsuit by BuzzFeed who sued the Justice Department for the release of the documents that proved that.
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So it is I think each one of these things had to be asked to be viewed in vigil.
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I'm sick of reading Hunter Biden and Roger Stone, Roger Stone and his wife evaded two and a half million dollars in taxes,
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And Hunter Biden is false, not even apples and oranges.
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I reported every penny, my wife and I, that we ever made and accurately reported our assets.
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Hunter Biden failed to report tens of millions of dollars worth of income at all to the IRS.
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Three quarters of what I owe the IRS, two million dollars, John.
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Seventy five percent of it is interest and penalties.
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The actual amount of past due tax from 2006 is, I think, less than four hundred thousand dollars.
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I made payments on it for every year since 2006, 12 months a year.
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You know, we were someone we were talking about before the show, a friend of both of ours, Michael Grimm, former congressman.
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The first and only person, Roger, indicted it in New York City for hiring illegal immigrants at his business, hiring off the books, dishwashers and busboys.
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I don't think it was right what he did, but he was the only person ever indicted in New York City for it.
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A week prior to his indictment, Bill de Blasio came out and said everyone hiring everyone in New York hiring should hire illegals.
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Michael owed, I think, seventy five thousand or ninety thousand dollars in taxes on unreported payrolls.
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He wound up owing a half a million dollars in taxes and penalties and fees.
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What people don't realize is that when they hear two million dollars or how much money was Roger making.
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Going back to the January 6th party and Grimm was targeted because he was a conservative Republican congressman from New York City.
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And he went after John Boehner and he stepped on his toes and Boehner didn't like it.
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And they didn't like the fact that Grimm could work both sides of the aisle.
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He was able to get New Yorkers a lot of money for Hurricane Sandy, which the Republicans weren't in favor of because they didn't care about New York.
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And it was why he won reelection so many times.
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It's why he won reelection under federal indictment.
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But going back to the January 6th pardons, the mainstream media, it seems like they'll do everything they can to try to push Trump away from this.
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Trump pardoning January 6th rioters would be unpopular, according to a poll.
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Where have these people been, Roger, for the last nine years?
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Do you think Donald Trump gives a damn what these people think in their Marxist left fake polls?
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President Trump won over 50 percent of the votes.
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He told us, Roger, on the stage of the debate that he was going to look at pardoning these people.
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Do you think they think Trump gives a damn what they say?
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The sad part is that despite everything we have learned since then and that we now know that the January 6th committee hearings were a kabuki theater,
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which utilized perjury, coaching witnesses, hiding videos, hiding some witnesses, ramping up the volume on audios, using AI to make audio and video tracks.
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All the evidence of that, of course, has been destroyed by Democrats.
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Most Americans understand that this was indeed a fed surrection, as Dr. Darren Beatty, I think, the brilliant reporting of the revolver, has proven.
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Most Americans don't buy that this was the most violent attack on America since Pearl Harbor.
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And they don't believe that a bunch of police officers died that day, because that's another lie, as you know.
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And most Americans don't know the full story of Ashley Babbitt, a decorated Air Force veteran, unarmed, harming no one, shot and killed without warning, for no reason whatsoever, for trespassing.
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Two other people I would love to see pardons, and I want to get your opinion on this, because it's either very popular or it's very unpopular.
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I don't think there's, like, really any in between.
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And it's two people that I think know a lot of information that I would like to know.
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And I'd like them to come to America and tell Congress what exactly they knew and what was happening behind the scenes.
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Julian Assange is a great crime as being a truth teller.
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He established the he embarrassed the American political establishment, both Republicans and Democrats.
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He embarrassed the deep state, he embarrassed the neocons, he showed us the falsity and the corruption of their wars, their conduct of government.
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The left loves Julian Assange when it was George W. Bush's hump he was busting.
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But when he started exposing the Clintons and the Obamas, his truth telling became too tough for them.
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Yes, he has been horrifically punished for practicing journalism.
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Maybe you've heard of the Pentagon Papers case with the Washington Post.
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Or maybe you're familiar with some of the publishings of the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.
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And, of course, Snowden proves to us that our own NSA director, General Clapper, is lying.
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There's no metadata collection program going on against U.S. citizens.
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So had Snowden not come forward, we would not know that.
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They prosecute me when I actually didn't say anything that hit any underlying crime.
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In other words, to violate the False Statements Act while testifying before Congress,
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what you say has to be not only willful but material.
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In my case, there is no underlying crime to hide.
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The government doesn't produce any proof at trial that there is.
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John Brennan lies to a Senate committee about spying on a Senate committee
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that is investigating his illegal use of torture.
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So when they say, oh, this is about retribution, no, it is about readjusting the scales of justice,
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And this stuff, Roger, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
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If I'm aware of a murder, Roger, we'll use that for example.
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If I'm aware of a friend of mine who committed a murder and I'm given evidence on it
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and I have this evidence that my friend committed a murder and I don't say a word about it
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and the government finds out after they catch him that I knew about it,
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I go to jail for aiding and abetting a murderer.
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When the federal government breaks the law, Roger, whether you're collecting metadata
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or whatever you want, you're all of a sudden, you're a criminal if you come out and speak
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I don't know if you're familiar with a man named Russ Ticey.
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He was the man who blew the whistle on the Patriot Act and told us he was a former NSA senior
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intel analyst, he's a good friend of this show and I would love to see him in the Trump
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He was the one who blew the whistle on the Patriot Act and they came out, Roger, and guess
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When it comes to the federal government, you're committing treason because you're speaking
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Isn't that a dictatorship that these Democrats all talk about that they say Donald Trump is
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trying to do, but it seems like it always is against our favor?
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There are certain individuals they set out to destroy.
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One of the inventors of cryptocurrency, Roger Ver, they're trying to extradite to this country
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to prosecute for failure to pay taxes that he doesn't really owe, and they hate him because
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he's a longtime supporter of libertarian and free-thinking ideas, as well as cryptocurrency
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So, yeah, people get targeted the way they targeted Ross Albrecht, the inventor of the
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So, yes, unfortunately, this is why we have to end this weaponization of our criminal justice
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The idea that Kash Patel, who I think is uniquely qualified to clean up a troubled agency with
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a history of violating people's civil liberties and rights, the FBI, to say that Kash Patel
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Andrew McCabe, a man who never even served as a station chief, who became deputy director,
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says Kash Patel, a veteran federal prosecutor of intelligence crimes, a former member of
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the NSA staff, a former chief of staff of the Defense Department, that's a pretty big
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management job, is not qualified to be the head of the, or the chief counsel to the House
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Intelligence Committee is not qualified to head the agency, is laughable.
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And when he says we'll take it back, it would take the agency back to its pre-Watergate days.
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This is, this is, just to point out, this is the FBI of James Comey, who launched an off-the-books
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operation to infiltrate Donald Trump's campaign with two good-looking women in a honeypot operation.
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He preceded the opening of a crossfire hurricane, for which there is no legal predicate, because
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They know that the Russians did not hack the DNC.
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So they, this is the greatest dirty trick in American political history.
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This is nothing less than an abusive power in which Obama and Biden, who's in the room,
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along with, along with Susan Rice and John Brennan and James Comey and others, use the full authority
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of the United States government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence agencies to use
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what they know is falsified evidence in an illegal effort to remove a duly elected president.
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It's the great, it makes Watergate look like small potatoes.
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And now they argue no one should pay any penalty for these, for these treasonous crimes.
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I've certainly read enough evidence on the public record of egregious treasonous crimes.
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Yeah, my favorite thing, by the way, you're referring to George Papadopoulos falling for the
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I'm glad I wasn't in that position because I would have probably fell for it too.
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But the funniest thing about this whole thing is Liz Cheney comes out and says, oh, if you
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lawyers think you're going to come after us on the January 6th committee, just know there'll
00:30:12.740
Liz Cheney went to one of the witnesses for the committee behind that witness's lawyer's
00:30:26.060
When someone is represented, you cannot go directly to them.
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So speaking of sanctions, there's somebody who should be sanctioned.
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So in this colloquy between Liz Cheney and witness Cassidy Hutchison for the January 6th
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committee, former, I think, assistant to Mark Meadows, the White House staff, Hutchison
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says the president ordered Mark Meadows to call Roger Stone and General Flynn on January
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And those final words are helpfully supplied by Liz Cheney.
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In other words, to find out what was going to happen on the 6th.
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I've never talked to Mark Meadows on the telephone or I don't think in any medium at all.
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Hutchison says that Meadows, the president's chief of staff, was headed to a war room in
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the Willard Hotel to game plan the electoral college certification, I guess, and that she
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But he later called Stone and Flynn for a download.
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If there is one in the Willard, I was never there and unaware of it.
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No download could take place for a meeting we didn't attend and know nothing about.
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Both, I would argue, at the behest of Liz Cheney.
00:32:02.260
You can take an AI detection software and run all of their videos through it.
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You'll see that everything has been manipulated.
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They have people, including me, saying things that we literally never said.
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It's the playbook of the left, and we see it all the time.
00:32:19.840
Speaking of perjury, I can't wait to see someone who's going to perjure himself, because I don't
00:32:23.180
think we're going to see the end of former, soon to be former FBI director Christopher
00:32:30.840
When we come back, we're going to take up Christopher Wray.
00:32:33.240
He's leaving the FBI, but he's trying to leave some friends in place before he leaves.
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Does he have the final votes to become the head of the Pentagon?
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And we're also going to take up Tulsi Gabbard, a person of the right who the Democrats say
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I want to get Roger's take on that when we return.
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While we were in break, I had something pop up on my Twitter.
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One of the folks that Joe Biden reportedly glanted clemency to is a CCP agent who had 47,000
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And so I'm looking forward to this list of other folks that we're going to find out
00:34:21.680
But 47,000 files of child pornography in some countries, that gets you the death sentence,
00:34:31.560
Roger, I want to turn to Christopher Wray, a man who's no friend of you or this country.
00:34:36.460
Sources within the FBI say that Christopher Wray has begun promoting employees among senior
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executive service, those who serve within the Bureau's leadership.
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So the people who are the rot, the fish, the rot, the rots at the head.
00:34:49.280
These sources describe this as an effort to burrow establishment figures deep within the FBI.
00:34:54.400
Sources said a plan is being formulated to delay new FBI director's entry into the agency
00:35:00.200
So that being Cash Patel, with the acting director being one of Christopher Wray's good
00:35:10.060
Do you think we see the end of Christopher Wray?
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Or do you think the Republicans will actually do something for a change this time and hold
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This depends entirely on the Senate confirming Cash Patel.
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And that is those who understand the institution and the government and its rules,
00:35:27.600
in the early days, if whoever has authority over them doesn't understand the system, they
00:35:34.540
can be thwarted, they can be stalled, the agenda can be delayed, derailed, demolished.
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He understands exactly who the bad guys are and he knows what they did.
00:35:50.000
Because he ran, with John Ratcliffe, he ran the Russia collusion investigation.
00:35:55.240
So you have the CIA director and the FBI director completely aware of what the FBI has done,
00:36:02.120
including the illegal raid on Mar-a-Lago, the 6 a.m.
00:36:06.560
raid on my home for a first-time nonviolent white-collar crime when I could have simply turned
00:36:14.980
CNN was conveniently just 25 people in the front door.
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No, no, it was, they got an award for their intuitive investigative reporting.
00:36:31.120
At 6.11, a CNN producer texts my lawyer and says, your client has been arrested.
00:36:44.360
It has no court stampings or time markings on it.
00:36:46.960
But it does, when you go to the metadata tags, have the initials of the man who wrote it,
00:36:51.160
Andrew Weissman, the most important prosecutor, who obviously, therefore, is the leaker.
00:36:55.880
Leaking an arrest warrant or a search warrant is a felony.
00:37:00.440
But only the left is held, only those on the right are held responsible for things they
00:37:07.640
But on the left, we have a two-tier justice system.
00:37:11.800
And I'm not sure what Christopher Wray thinks he's going to do with hiding these people.
00:37:16.380
You can look up any federal employee in some states, even state employee, and see where
00:37:20.140
they're at, where their ranks are, how much they're getting paid.
00:37:28.120
He's got plenty of energy to go through with these folks.
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And I know some of the people Cash is in tune with work-wise.
00:37:36.280
And they're all smart people, triple-digit IQs, not double-digit IQs like these folks who
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I mean, I really want to see Christopher Wray before a House committee and something done
00:37:48.040
Because things like the raid on your house, you know, Christian Walker asked President
00:37:52.220
Trump in that interview on deface the nation, or meet the press, it was rather, meet the
00:37:56.420
press, meet the depressed is what it should be, or meet the Marxist, whatever you want
00:38:02.720
And she said, why are you going to fire Christopher Wray?
00:38:06.360
And Trump answered so simply, the man broke into my home and raided my home and approved
00:38:13.760
They were a former U.S. president, a leading candidate, and what we all knew, or at least
00:38:17.700
you and I knew, to be the next president of the United States.
00:38:20.520
How does someone, like, get away with something like that, Roger?
00:38:24.020
I mean, look, President Trump said that he hired Christopher Wray because he looked the
00:38:30.300
I think the guy looks like he ought to be, you know, at the craps tables in Atlantic City
00:38:34.960
as a dealer, to be honest with you, or maybe 21 if it's illegal there now.
00:38:40.400
This is a man who harassed parents for going to school board meetings to express their concerns
00:38:48.180
about the curriculum being taught to their children.
00:38:50.680
This is a man who harassed people for peacefully protesting the crime of abortion, the outrage
00:39:01.920
This is a man who called those who choose to attend the Latin mass domestic terrorists.
00:39:09.100
So the abuses in this agency, to say that the agency would go back to its pre-Watergate
00:39:17.860
days, I say it's much worse than its post-Watergate days.
00:39:22.860
The entire launch of Crossfire Hurricane, James Comey trying to entrap the President of the
00:39:30.460
United States, Rod Rosentine agreeing to wear a wire to entrap the President of the United
00:39:45.360
And the President has nominated precisely the right guy to clean it up.
00:39:50.400
And this is why Ray and his colleagues and so many others on the hard left who know they
00:39:55.880
have broken the law and thought that they would escape consequence forever, beginning to worry
00:40:06.920
And we were all sitting there worried when President Trump was maybe thinking about that
00:40:11.040
rhino from Michigan, the guy who wears the wig, Mike Rogers.
00:40:19.540
I'm hoping these stories about Ron DeSantis possibly, first of all, I don't think it's
00:40:34.840
They're trying to do the full Kavanaugh on him.
00:40:40.040
But if Pete should have to withdraw, which I don't foresee, as someone said, well, the
00:40:57.200
I mean, Ron DeSantis would never have been governor but for Donald Trump.
00:41:01.420
And at 42 years old, he could have waited to run for president.
00:41:04.240
Instead, he challenged the man who graciously made him and raised millions for him and dragged
00:41:10.160
him over the finish line and secured him the Republican nomination.
00:41:14.280
It's a stunning and disappointing act of disloyalty.
00:41:17.420
And I don't think it should be forgiven when there are people like Senator Phil Haggerty could
00:41:26.420
But I think the good news is Hegseth is going to make it because he is a fighter, which is
00:41:41.880
You know, when they post him, when Kinzinger, that little midget, her, you know, in Stalinistic
00:41:49.940
garb, trying to claim she's not a loyal American, that she's not a patriotic American, simply
00:41:55.620
because she doesn't want to continue to ship billions of dollars to Ukraine.
00:42:00.020
This is a woman who served her country in combat in Iraq, in Kuwait, putting her life
00:42:07.520
This is someone who today is a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve, who she's an accomplished
00:42:13.640
athlete, surfer, shooter, and she completely understands the surveillance state, because
00:42:23.440
when she criticized Kamala Harris, she found herself on a secret domestic terrorist TSA watch
00:42:31.240
list, and she was under surveillance whenever she traveled, which was pretty much every day.
00:42:36.180
How do you rationalize this for a four-term member of Congress who served on the House
00:42:42.480
Foreign Affairs Committee and the Armed Services Committee, and who's still serving their country
00:42:50.280
This is absolutely outrageous, as is any questioning of her patriotism.
00:42:56.880
You mentioned the terror, it's called the SSS, what they put you on, the second service.
00:43:01.780
You know, it's sort of interesting, because when I found out Tulsi was on that, I thought
00:43:06.100
back some years ago, while I was working at Fox, where I got on a flight, and I've worked
00:43:10.120
in the airline industry before, so I've passed background checks.
00:43:14.660
I have FAA certification, so I've passed background checks federally.
00:43:19.580
And one day, I go to get on a flight, and I've got SSS on the bottom of it.
00:43:22.760
And it boiled down to they told me that it was because me and my father have the same name,
00:43:27.580
which I knew not to be true, because I have the fourth after my name.
00:43:35.740
And how many people in America have the same name as their father and son?
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I later find out that my phones were maybe tapped as well.
00:43:46.300
I don't know what they thought they were getting out of me.
00:43:47.740
I'm a pretty law-abiding citizen, aside from maybe speeding every now and then.
00:43:52.500
You know, I'm not sure what they were wasting their time on me with.
00:43:54.780
But Tulsi Gabbard, you know, it seems to be the one that they've moved on to now
00:44:00.740
We saw last week, Roger, they said, you were never accepted into West Point.
00:44:05.520
They gave him a problem about saying he was accepted into West Point.
00:44:10.340
They never gave Richard Dick Blumenthal any issues when he made up this whole story
00:44:17.440
I mean, the double standard, Roger, is just laughable at this point.
00:44:21.440
You're talking about people with stolen valor as compared to a guy,
00:44:25.880
even if he did say, Roger, he was accepted in there and he wasn't.
00:44:32.680
You have people pretending to be in combat war, Roger, and it's okay.
00:44:37.580
Like, I can't think of anybody other than say, oh, I don't know, Tim Walz.
00:44:44.420
There's a famous saying, never send a letter and never throw one away.
00:44:47.580
And I think this is a perfect example of Pete Hegseth quickly producing proof
00:44:53.440
that he not only applied to go to West Point, but he was accepted.
00:44:57.140
So the great smear machine, paid for by our taxpayers, by the way,
00:45:02.040
which is where this particular smear comes from, comes through public broadcasting,
00:45:13.080
Now, because Tulsi Yabbar has expressed extreme concern about the safety of hundreds
00:45:19.980
of thousands of Christians in Syria, where we saw the mass slaughter of Christians,
00:45:27.280
including the crucifixion of five-year-old schoolgirls, the last time Islamic extremists
00:45:33.160
controlled Syria, that does not make her not a patriotic American.
00:45:41.180
The president is entitled to his cabinet positions.
00:45:43.860
She is highly qualified for this position based on her assignments in Congress
00:45:51.420
And at the end, I'm confident that she will be confirmed.
00:45:55.280
I read a story, I'm not sure this is accurate, that Bernie Sanders,
00:45:59.380
who is considering supporting her nomination, she supported Sanders over Hillary Clinton
00:46:06.840
She didn't agree with Bernie Sanders about everything, but when it came to the most important issue
00:46:12.120
in their party at the time, Hillary Clinton was the neo-Khan candidate who took out Gaddafi.
00:46:20.620
Now the same forces, the CIA and extremist elements with our funding, have taken out the government in Syria.
00:46:29.900
I'm not arguing that Assad was a great civil libertarian, but I'm arguing that there are now
00:46:35.900
hundreds of thousands of Christians whose lives are in danger at this moment, and that does concern me.
00:46:43.040
I hear they're also starting an airline in Syria now, too, which scares the hell out of me if you think about it.
00:46:49.560
You know, you go down the list of things that are really bad.
00:46:52.540
I think the foreign policy, neither of us are foreign policy experts.
00:46:55.400
You're probably a little bit better than I am, but I think the world stage is going to be a lot different.
00:47:02.280
He's saying, Tyran, you know, I think peace is coming a lot sooner than you all expect.
00:47:08.480
I think we will maybe see peace in the Middle East for the first time in my lifetime, at least.
00:47:14.660
You know, I want to turn back to politics real quickly as we wrap up here as it comes to these appointments.
00:47:24.180
If these senators and I ask each and every one of you watching the show today to go look at how many Democrats voted against any of Biden's nominees.
00:47:33.220
If you could find one, shoot us an email at infoludobbs.com because I'd love to see it because I haven't found one yet.
00:47:40.020
If any of these damn Republicans who are in the Senate, who are up for reelection in 2026, think they're going to vote against this or use it as some sort of bargaining chip, we need to hold them accountable because they can't get away with this any longer.
00:47:51.820
Roger, I want to get your opinion on Mitch McConnell as he takes another fall this week in the Capitol.
00:48:00.660
First of all, when Biden became president, Democrats had 50 votes in the Senate.
00:48:06.140
Republicans voted overwhelmingly to give Biden his cabinet, despite the fact that many nominees had blemishes, to say the least.
00:48:14.360
But they will not afford Donald Trump the same courtesy.
00:48:21.500
But there are deluded Republicans out there, maybe three, four, it's all it takes, who somehow think that they can thwart the will of the people in the last election.
00:48:34.900
I think that that is an enormous error on their part.
00:48:39.580
And if a senator from, I don't know, let's take a state, South Dakota, doesn't vote for one of the president's nominees, Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, Robert Kennedy, whoever it may be, well, then they will face a stiff primary in 2026 when they come up for reelection.
00:48:57.100
This is the new Republican Party of the middle class, of middle America, of the taxpayer, of the party of peace, of the party of prosperity, the party of security, border security particularly, and the party of justice.
00:49:19.980
And even the shit that Joni Ernst is pulling, it's like a it's like a it's a it's a negotiating tactic.
00:49:30.020
These senators have a very inflated importance.
00:49:36.340
Otherwise, she's been in a national headline in a long time.
00:49:40.200
I think she'll be committing political suicide if she doesn't support the president's nominees.
00:49:45.220
So, look, I've always had respect for Susan Collins.
00:49:48.740
She does a lot of things that I disagree with, but I've always found her to be open minded.
00:49:53.860
And I would hope that she would give all these nominees a good look.
00:50:10.440
You can have a knee jerk reaction, but I would hope that she will examine the nominations.
00:50:17.920
I think in the end, the president will win, but only through grassroots activism.
00:50:22.160
So when Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, a state where Donald Trump carried 77 of 77 counties, said that he may not vote for, I believe it was Cash Patel.
00:50:35.700
He was flooded with e-mails and text messages and phone calls.
00:50:47.700
Their phone numbers for their district offices, their home state offices, which is why I suggest you register your opinion.
00:50:56.900
Do not yell politely, but firmly tell these senators that you expect them to support the will of the people and support the president's nominees.
00:51:06.040
And if they don't, that they'll be held accountable at the polls in our system.
00:51:10.780
I think that kind of grassroots activism is Mark Wayne Mullen now says he's voting for Cash Patel.
00:51:19.220
So I think those kind of things are very important.
00:51:29.200
Those are those are the hottest nominations out there.
00:51:32.960
Hopefully some of the president's better appointments.
00:51:36.540
At least Stefanik, who's a bulldog when it comes to fairness and exposing corruption of the FBI going to the U.N.
00:51:51.520
And for everyone who doesn't want to go online, we'll make it easier for you.
00:52:03.620
And if you're in that state, it makes a difference because the senator's offices see where the calls are coming in from.
00:52:08.340
So, in other words, if you're in South Dakota and you're calling, they see that you're calling from South Dakota, it makes a difference.
00:52:13.860
And it does, I think, move the needle a little bit.
00:52:16.540
You look at these rhinos like Mark Wayne Mullen.
00:52:19.440
I think the guy's got a conservative record of like 51 percent.
00:52:25.580
But it's a conversation for our show next week.
00:52:30.440
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