THE CORRUPT J6 COMMITTEE JUST GOT A BIT MORE CORRUPT
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Julie Kelly, an investigative reporter and host of the show The Great America Show, joins host John Rocha (Rocha is a former White House correspondent for the New York Times) to discuss the bombshell revelations coming out of the House Administration Committee investigation into the January 6th false lawsuit against President Trump.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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The 2024 election, I mean, it's fast approaching, faster than I think we've ever expected it
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It seems like just yesterday, President Trump announced he'd be running again in 2024.
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And then came all the lawsuits, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, the January 6th fake lawsuit,
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Fonny Willis, the New York criminal case, the Stormy Daniels case, the New York civil
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I mean, they piled on and they piled on and they piled on and they just kept on coming.
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But shortly thereafter, they started to fall apart.
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The case in Florida, the Mar-a-Lago's documents case dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon, Jack
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Another case Jack Smith is fighting for his life on is this January 6th sham case that
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President Trump had something to do with January 6th.
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Our guest today knows more about January 6th, perhaps than any of us, and has done deep
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dives into every single aspect of that day, including a timeline, a synchronized timeline
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of everything that happened with the Capitol Police requesting the National Guard, the military.
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She's an investigative reporter and she has a great sub stack.
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It's juliekelly.substack.com where you can read everything.
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Her Twitter, which you can see right here on the screen, follow her for all updates on
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I guess it makes sense to start with January 6th and something that you've been talking
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And this star witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, if you will tell the audience, Cassidy Hutchinson,
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her background and the role she's now playing in what seems to be a big lie.
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I know Lou is looking down and very proud and pleased that you are filling his very large
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And he was always so gracious to have me on and cover my work.
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So bombshell revelations coming out of the House Administrative Committee subcommittee
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that is led by Representative Barry Loudermilk from Georgia.
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And what he is doing is not just looking into, you know, some unanswered questions about January
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6th, the Pipe Bomb, National Guard deployment, et cetera, but also the January 6th Select Committee
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And this was the one that was formed by former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.
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So he has been looking into a lot of malfeasance surrounding that committee, missing videos, missing
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documents, destroyed videos, actually, of witness depositions.
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And what he has recently discovered is encrypted chats between Liz Cheney, the vice chairman of
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the committee, and her star witness, Cassidy Hutchinson.
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Now, everyone remembers Cassidy's dramatic testimony during the televised performances of
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This was June 28th of 2022, where she made these outlandish claims about Trump's behavior
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Well, it turns out, John, that through Alyssa Farah Griffin, who also worked in the Trump
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White House and now is on The View, she acted as an intermediary to connect Hutchinson with
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Cassidy was a target of the investigation, having been a close aide to then Chief of Staff
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Cassidy Hutchinson already was being represented by an attorney, Stefan Passantino, who also
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She gave what is now proven to be perjured testimony under oath about what happened in the
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Remember that Trump lunged at the steering wheel and then he tried to strangle his security
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But now we know that they have this back channel and that Liz Cheney was in communication
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with Cassidy Hutchinson before that explosive testimony.
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But this is pretty, this is bombshell revelations here, John, because it really speaks to the
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fact that Liz Cheney appears to have committed crimes of her own, including obstructing an
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official proceeding, tampering with a witness, perhaps suborning perjury, and maybe even dangling
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some sort of quid pro quo, but before Cassidy Hutchinson, who was 24 at the time, to get
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this outlandish incendiary testimony out of her that has now been completely discredited.
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You know, it's and for all you guys who are listening to if you want to read about what
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Julie's talking about, she talks about in her sub stack at Julie Kelly dot sub stack dot
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com and breaks down the events, has the text messages of Liz Cheney with Cassidy Hutchinson.
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And if you read some of these text messages, Julie, it's like ones you would have read.
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Hey, I don't want this to be put out in the public.
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Is there a certain time I can call you or nobody will, you know, see that you're around
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all types of nefarious behavior, Julie, that you wouldn't see if you were running a legitimate
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The other thing is Liz Cheney got up on that stand and brought Cassidy Hutchinson and like
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But, you know, she was ready for her testimony.
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That was, you know, what she already knew what it was.
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I always joked around with Lou that he pegged people spot on.
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He knew from the get go if they were good people or they were bad people.
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And during the Trump administration, he had her on his show one time and he had told us
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Now, I always called him Nostradamus because Lou predicted things that were going to happen.
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And I mean, for years, he did it for 25 years, at least in modern history, but always predictable.
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And Melissa Farah turned out to be one of these rat weasels who's just no good, who was in
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The other issue we had in there you'd mentioned was the note, which is perhaps, Julie, the
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A note from Cassidy Hutchinson, which she allegedly was transcribing President Trump,
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something President Trump said, it turned out to be that it wasn't exactly her handwriting.
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And when I saw that handwriting, Julie, on the note, I said, that does not look like the
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And then I saw on your Twitter you posted a Alyssa Farah love letter to her, one of her
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friends, and I looked at it and I said, yes, that's the handwriting of a woman, big bubbly
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It seems they all write in this bubbly type of handwriting, unless I guess they're not.
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Tell us a little bit about that and the conflict of that and who wrote that letter and the
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John, this is the most inexplicable lie of the many lies, not just by Cassidy Hutchinson
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I don't understand why she would lie about writing a sentence or taking a note from, it
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was actually from Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who she worked for, why she would lie about
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writing that sentence down and what it said, something along the lines of tomorrow, Cassidy
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Hutchinson's favorite phrase, you know, those who unlawfully or legally enter the Capitol
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She claimed, again, during her sworn public testimony, and Liz Cheney is the one who prompted
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And she said that she took that dictation from Mark Meadows, that that was her handwriting.
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Liz Cheney directly asked her, is that your handwriting?
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It was Eric Hirschman, who was another White House attorney, who had taken that dictation
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at the direction of Mark Meadows, as they were formulating a statement that the president
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could give at the time to try to ask the protesters to leave the Capitol.
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So what Loudervilk staff did, they hired a, to your point, really didn't need one, right?
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You could tell that handwriting was not of a young girl.
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Eric Hirschman gave over several writing samples.
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And it was determined, probably within two seconds, that no, Cassidy, you did not write that.
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You didn't use a little heart, you know, above the eye.
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And you didn't, you know, leave little smiley faces after signing your name.
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So at any rate, just, you know, I had people texting me this morning, John, asking me,
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So this is, but look, this helped destroy lives.
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More importantly, Stefan Passantino, who they then initiated this smear campaign against him,
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who was representing, representing Cassidy Hutchinson at the time.
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She fired him, apparently at the direction of Liz Cheney, who then offered two other attorneys
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to represent her pro bono, which is then when all of this false testimony took place.
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But they initiated a smear campaign against him, which resulted in two bar complaints against
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Stefan in Georgia and in Washington, both dismissed.
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And now he has two lawsuits, one filed against Congress, U.S. government, and one filed against
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Andrew Weissman, of course, the legendary former Fed Mueller, quote unquote, pit bull, who's
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actually like a little poodle, chihuahua, and a defamation suit against him.
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So this was not without serious consequences to people's lives.
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And there must be accountability for what the two of them, and even Alyssa Farah, did as
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Julie, the thing that comes to mind to me is, are people really this stupid?
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Now, I know we have this whole Trump derangement thing that's going on, and it's been going
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on now for some time, where people hate Trump so much that they're willing to believe anything.
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I mean, if you told people that Trump is Hitler reincarnated, if you told these Democrats, some
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of them would probably believe it because they're that sick in the head.
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When Cassie Hutchinson came out and said that President Trump pushed through the screen,
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well, it's not a screen, it's a barrier window in the motorcade, to get a hold of the car
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to drive him to the Capitol, and news organizations ran with it, Julie.
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Now, us Republicans on Twitter, we were making memes.
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Memes of President Trump with these big jacked arms.
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And I think President Trump saw them, and he was like, I wish I was that jacked, because
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When we come back, I want to go further into the timeline on January 6th, something you go
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into deep detail on your substack, julikelly.substack.com.
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And the timeline, that just really doesn't make sense.
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We're talking with brilliant investigative reporter, Julie Kelly.
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I don't think there's anybody who does a better job dedicating their time and their
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own resources and money into investigating the truth.
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Julie's not some person who's being paid millions of dollars to do this.
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She's actually becoming an enemy of the deep state by doing this and covering the truth.
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So Julie's doing a great service to this country, as we all try to do, and we pay the
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I read over yesterday on your sub stack, you have an excellent chronological events list
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of everything that happened after phone calls with Chief Stevenson.
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First, I want to get to Stevenson because days leading up to January 6th, I believe January
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3rd or 2nd, he had reached out because he was nervous and he wanted the National Guard
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He ran it up the chain of command, up and down.
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January 6th finally comes, Julie, at 1258, Stevenson called the House Sergeant at Arms,
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telling him we're getting overrun by protesters on the West Front.
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I need approval to request the National Guard immediately.
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Irving replied, let me run it up the chain and I'll call you back.
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Now, this seemed like a normal occurrence in this chronological events list.
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President Trump was still speaking at that point.
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So, the Capitol's being overrun, Julie, while President Trump is still speaking.
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Now, anyone who's been to D.C., Julie, and knows you can't walk from the ellipse to the
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It wouldn't even be 12 minutes because the speech didn't end.
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So, it would be more like, you know, 24, 30 minutes.
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And there were, you know, hundreds of thousands of people in the city.
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So, people who walked from the ellipse to the Capitol said they really didn't get there
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until 2 o'clock because of the crowds and the street closures.
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In your thought, I mean, we spoke to Steven Sund on this show many times before.
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To me, he seems like a very genuine and good guy.
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What are your thoughts on former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund?
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You know, I communicate with Chief Sund, and I went through his book.
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We have serious disagreements about our analysis of that day, especially related to instances
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of police brutality, excessive force, and even lethal force.
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So, we have deep disagreements about police conduct that day.
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But Steve Sund is a very loyal, you know, he's a cop's cop.
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And, you know, anyone who knows cops knows what that means.
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And so, but he's very devoted to the Capitol Police, very devoted to his men and women.
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He was absolutely heart sick and heartbroken to see, you know, attacks on police.
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And, but despite that, I think what he has come to terms with is that he was intentionally
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kept in the dark, that he was not privy to some of the intelligence that these other agencies
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Now, Paul Irving, the name you just raised, that's Paul Irving, Nancy Pelosi's sergeant-at-arms.
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The other individual he was in contact with was a man named Michael Stenger, who was Mitch McConnell's sergeant-at-arms.
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Capitol Police are primarily responsible for securing congressional buildings and Capitol grounds.
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So, he had to get authorization from the Capitol Police Board, Stenger and Irving, to get National Guard.
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They repeatedly denied that and foot-dragged on it and slow-walked it and expressed concerns about so-called optics
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Well, then here he was, the initial exterior breach happening at 1253.
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He then goes into panic mode, is calling everyone he could possibly think of to get the National Guard there.
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At the same time, there's other foot-dragging by, say, people in the Trump administration.
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And Ryan McCarthy, who is the Army Secretary, changing the chain of command, the authority,
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on January 5th as to the deployment of Quick Reaction Force.
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As you said, John, this is the most exhaustive timeline about the deployment
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or delays in the deployment of the National Guard that exists anywhere.
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It literally took us months to put this together.
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So, people can see for themselves, you know, was this just an intentional mess-up,
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So, the events of January 6th could unfold and then resulting in what happened, which was senators backing away from their plans to object to the certification of the vote in those contested states.
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And then, ultimately, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris being certified about 3.20 a.m. on the 7th.
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So, that would be the most, to your chronological, it's almost minute by minute of what unfolded on January 6th.
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So, I want to talk about another minute that happens on January 6th at 2.40 p.m.
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En route in an SUV to Fort McNair, Nancy Pelosi saying, quote,
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Why weren't the National Guard there to begin with?
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And I take responsibility for not having the air there just to prepare for war.
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Pelosi, again, raising the deployment, the prospect of the deployment of the National Guard.
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Later on, we're going to stay here all day for the rest of our lives until the National Guard decides to come get rid of these people.
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Julie, it seemed like we knew what was going to happen on that day.
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Well, we didn't know, but these people in the government knew that there was going to be an issue.
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Now, this was something I was thinking about the other day.
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Do you think it's possible they didn't deploy the National Guard because they obviously knew government informants were going to be there,
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government informants were going to cause corruption?
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And the National Guard wasn't going to be able to disseminate which one of these people who were, you know,
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causing arson and things like that, breaking windows for government informants versus who were not.
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Yes, I think that there's so much behind the scenes that confirms the fact that you had various characters from Mark Milley,
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James Rosen, the acting attorney general, other figures, you know, as Lou would say,
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Marxist Dems, the deep staters, with their invisible hand behind the scenes, who, yes,
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knew that there would be not just FBI informants, but undercover agents from numerous offices,
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including DHS, including Capitol Police, which they had plainclothes.
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Almost every law enforcement agency, including DHS, Park Police, later confirmed that they had plainclothes or undercover.
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D.C. Metro, we see D.C. Metro undercover agents on video acting like Trump supporters,
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encouraging people to go to the Capitol, saying the same sort of things that the Trump supporters were saying.
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But do you think I'm sorry, go ahead, John, just imagine if only a few hundred National Guardsmen
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had been around the perimeter of the Capitol building starting at 11 o'clock that day.
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Instead, you had three or four Capitol Police behind not unsecure bike racks on the west side.
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You had basically no protection on the east side.
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And, of course, this enabled everything to happen that day.
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They weren't the ones shooting tears of balls of tear gas at people.
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The January 6th insurrectionists weren't the ones who shot Ashley Babbitt in her neck.
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The notion that these people and I mean, it just continues to say in the back of my mind,
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the reason I believe the National Guard wasn't there is because it would have caused a divide
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and an issue with the government informants who were there to cause.
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Because I think there's no doubt, Julie, that there were government informants that were there,
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were some of the ones causing disruption, some of the ones who were breaking things,
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you know, doing all types of harm to the grounds that these January 6thers
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who just went there to peacefully protest are getting the rap for now.
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The reason Michael Horowitz hasn't released his report before the election,
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because I think we're going to find out there was probably hundreds there.
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So you're referring to Inspector General for the Department of Justice, Michael Horowitz,
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who this is the last remaining internal investigation that we're waiting to see from the federal government.
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Every other agency conducted internal inquiry into that agency or department's role in January 6th preparation, et cetera, et cetera.
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DOJ, the one we want to see the most, has still not been released.
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And Michael Horowitz told Congress last month he has submitted a draft.
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Apparently it's on the desk of Attorney General Merrick Garland, where it is going to sit until who knows when.
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For sure, after the election, which Horowitz said was true, he was hoping it would be released before Inauguration Day.
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But to your point, yes, it will reveal, and Michael Horowitz has said as much,
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the number of FBI informants or confidential human sources involved before and on January 6th,
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possibly in addition to that, John, the existence and participation of FBI undercover employees,
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which is a different category of undercovers than informants,
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and, you know, other things that the DOJ and FBI did, not find the pipe bomber, for example.
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It will include probably the most damaging information, damaging to the official J-6 narrative of anything else.
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And it's really criminal that the DOJ is holding on to this,
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while at the same time Kamala Harris and the Democrats continue to make January 6th,
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blaming Trump for what happened that day, making January 6th a key campaign issue,
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while at the same time withholding exculpatory information evidence that will be in that report.
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I want you to think about something for a second, right before we go to break here,
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We were told by SISA, just days after the 2020 election,
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it was the most secure election in this nation's history, just days, Julie.
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Over 150 million votes cast, we were told, days.
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Now, almost four years later, we can't get this report out from the Inspector General Horowitz.
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When we come back, I want to go into Mike Pence and the role he played in all of this.
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I also want to take a trip down to Georgia and uncover and talk about something we just found out about this week,
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We're coming right back with Julie Kelly, brilliant investigative reporter.
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Remember, if you don't read Julie's Substack, I really highly recommend it to you.
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Julie, I want to turn to Mike Pence and the role he played.
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Jack Smith filing his latest newly unsealed indictment against President Trump,
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Most of it's redacted, but this was the classified information
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And they allege that Mike Pence's book played a big role in it.
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This was like, this was a big lead up to kind of nothing.
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So Jack Smith got to file his quote-unquote immunity motion,
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165 pages of a lot of already retread information
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Then he said, okay, we're going to file this big appendix
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that's going to have grand jury testimony and FBI 302s, et cetera, et cetera.
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Well, a lot of it were transcripts that have already been posted,
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part of the J-6 select committee investigation as well.
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But look, this is only the DOJ, along with Obama appointee,
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Judge Tanya Chutkin, using this as an opportunity
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to seed more damaging stories against Donald Trump about January 6th.
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They know it because between the immunity ruling
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and the Fisher ruling, which overturned 1512C2,
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half of Jack Smith's, two of his four-count indictment,
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So I call it their paper trial of Donald Trump.
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He was upbraided by the Supreme Court three times this year alone.
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Of course, he had already lost 8-0 at the Supreme Court
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in the Bob McDonald conviction that was overturned by the Supreme Court,
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And look, this investigation is going to cost upwards of,
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one in Florida that was dismissed by Judge Cannon in July,
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This will easily double what Robert Mueller reportedly spent
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This is going to reach, total, between Jack Smith and DOJ,
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$100 million loan on criminal investigations into Donald Trump
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Republicans, and especially if Donald Trump wins,
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there must be consequences for the complete deception
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of the American people about Donald Trump's alleged criminality
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Yeah, you know what, Julie, you're absolutely right.
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yes, I agree with him completely and wholeheartedly,
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but he cannot let these people get away with what they've done to him.
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he's the kind of guy, Julie, for anyone who doesn't know him,
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And you sit here and you watch this man be shot at eight times at a rally
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and he comes out and he says, you know, it's business as usual
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because he's that kind of person who just wants to move on and get –
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and the people around him have to make him realize,
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that what these people have done to this country
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and our justice system can never be done again to any other people, Julie,
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sits there and parades behind a podium like he's this big, tough guy,
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armed with security and all these people around him,
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telling anyone if you dare challenge the 2024 election,
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you go look at those January 6thers that I've got there locked up,
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He's got these people, Julie, locked up and stored in prisons,
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It's been almost four years, still sitting in the gulag.
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Her name is Cindy Young, a 67-year-old grandmother, Julie,
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who entered the Capitol, walked around, was welcomed in by police officers,
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did a little walk around, walked out of the building.
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If she goes to jail, she tells me she'll lose everything, her business,
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her Social Security, then become a convicted felon.
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It's sick what they've done to these people, Julie.
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I want to turn to Merrick Garland and what's next for him.
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Hopefully he's got less than a month left on the job.
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Do you think he's ever held accountable for being, if not the mastermind,
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Well, I want to go back to two words that you just said that resonate in my head
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Because you know that these weak rhinos, as we would call them,
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these weak Republicans are going to say we need to move on.
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We need to move on from the prosecution and Jack Smith and everything.
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The reason how we got here is because there has been no accountability.
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No one paid a price for Russia collusion, which was the biggest fraud perpetrated on the American
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And it completely disabled Trump's first two years of his presidency.
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No one held accountable for the made-up Ukrainian quid pro quo impeachment.
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And so that's my worry, not just with weak Republicans, but Donald Trump himself.
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And I really feel that that will not be the case.
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Merrick Garland, for his point, I'm not really sure what the retribution can be.
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But he shouldn't be the only one, because we have so many corrupt actors in the DOJ and
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especially the FBI, and it needs to be fully investigated.
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And I believe conspiracy to defraud charges, which is one of Jack Smith's charges against
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Donald Trump, that needs to be used against not just bad actors in the DOJ and FBI, but
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also J-6 select committee members who did what they did behind the scenes, then destroyed
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evidence, trying to cover up their own malfeasance and criminality, all in service of betraying
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and deceiving the American people about January 6th.
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Often, I don't know if it's Jeffrey Clark, a former acting agent, or Mike Davis, but it's
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President Trump needs to come in and instill acting positions.
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Because they don't have to be confirmed, because what he did in 2016 was, and he took the high
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He listened to Reince Priebus, he listened to John Kelly, and he put in these people who
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Jeff Sessions, probably a nice guy, guy's got no courage, he's got no gut, you know, they
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come after President Trump and Russia, and he goes, I gotta go, I gotta go, and runs.
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I mean, he's got to put in these people, he's got to bring in a Mike Davis AG, even if it's
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for six months to get this ball rolling, he cannot continue to put in these bureaucrats
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who are gonna sit there and do absolutely nothing.
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Probably not, because it's just another go-along to get along.
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These people always are looking for what's next, what's next on the totem pole, what's
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He needs to put someone in who doesn't care about anything.
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And I'm not saying break the law, because that's what these Democrats do, they break
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I'm saying follow the law and prosecute these people.
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And enforce the law that has been weaponized by this DOJ.
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I was posting today, the DC Appellate Court, two judges who upheld the wrongful interpretation
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of a common, with the most common misdemeanor in J6 cases.
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These judges know that DOJ is intentionally misinterpreting statutes to criminalize political
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And then you have Democrat judges on the DC Appellate Court who uphold that.
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Now, this, again, we'll get to the Supreme Court, just like 1512c2 obstruction of an official
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proceeding, which was overturned by the Supreme Court, concluding that DOJ wrongfully prosecuted
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hundreds of J6ers under that post-Enron felony.
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The same will happen with this misdemeanor, but they don't care, because they're all in
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They are bastardizing nebulous statutes to criminalize political dissent.
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And to your point, throw 67-year-old women in prison for a year.
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She probably was convicted of this very same misdemeanor that the DC Appellate Court just
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Then a Trump DOJ is going to do the very same thing.
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And these judges who will put their imprimatur on the weaponization of the DOJ in these statutes
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And Lou always used to tell me, keep them off the show as much as possible.
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The ones we have to bring on, we'll bring them on.
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I mean, I talked to some of these people and I questioned how they got to where they got
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and what the hell is the bar that they pass to become what they've become?
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Because a lot of them I talk, they're not bright people, Julie.
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You explain things far better than perhaps any of these people and are probably far smarter
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in terms of IQ points than maybe 95% of them because it's a group of deceptive people, Julie.
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They're taught to lie and they're taught to defend liars and bad people.
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So whatever kind of profession that is, I want to wrap up with Nathan Wade, speaking of a dirty lawyer
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We find out that Wade was in for a deposition with Jim Jordan's Judiciary Committee on October 15th
00:36:51.520
So I'm not sure if they're still lover boy and lover girl, but Nathan Wade admitted that
00:36:58.320
he went to the White House before Fonnie Willis brought her case against President Trump.
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I'm not sure that it's unethical, but it is certainly contrary to what we have been told
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by the Biden White House and DOJ, that these are separate investigations,
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that the White House and the Biden regime had no influence in what Fonnie Willis decided to do.
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So Nathan Wade, and this reporting came out after the Nathan Wade, Fonnie Willis love affair
00:37:31.440
was exposed by one of the defendants in that case, which is sweet irony.
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But look, I also reported on this related to the classified documents case.
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There is clear evidence of collaboration between the Biden White House, including his general counsel,
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the National Archives, then other people at the DOJ to concoct this documents case against Donald Trump.
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This dated back to the summer of 2021, before Donald Trump turned over any records to NARA
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So they were already working behind the scenes.
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It looked, appeared to be a document destruction case that the Democrats at the National Archives,
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the Democrats in the White House and Democrats at DOJ were trying to concoct against Trump.
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And then that's how they ended up with the other indictment.
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But anyway, the Biden White House fingerprints are all over this.
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And of course, in the Georgia case, moving Matthew Colangelo from a top office at the DOJ down to Fulton County D.A.
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No one does that unless you are following the marching orders from people at the top of the DOJ,
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which it appears that that's what Matthew Colangelo was doing.
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I know you're not an attorney, as we discussed.
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Well, doesn't this, I mean, amount to selective prosecution, which is highly illegal?
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I mean, we see that in the classified documents case.
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Donald Trump, the only individual to face those sort of charges for withholding national security information,
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while people like Joe Biden and Mike Pence and the others who did the same, no charges at all.
00:39:21.720
So that's another example, John, of something that has to be fully vetted, investigated and people held accountable for that collaboration.
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And the lies that Joe Biden, Merrick Garland and others said, which was that all of these indictments were operating,
00:39:37.520
all of these prosecutors were operating independently when we know for a fact that they were not.
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For a second, Julie, I started to like Joe Biden because he, you know, he's turned on Kamala.
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He can't stand her, in my opinion, and the opinion of a lot of smart people.
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But then in the back of my mind, all I think about is what he's done to President Trump for absolutely no reason.
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And President Trump is the only the only man who's been thrown, thrown under the carpet and thrown under the rug here,
00:40:09.100
who is actually a good man, who's actually a clean man, who's got a track record of just doing good for people.
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You know, it just goes to show you, you know, don't run for president if you're if you're a good person.
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Look, I'll have more reporting on real clear investigations.
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I also right there, my sub stack declassified with Julie Kelly.
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But I will say my focus now is going to be the post-election period.
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Donald Trump wins what the left, the Democrats and the media are prepared to do to keep him from taking office in January.
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We truly appreciate your reporting and all you do for this great country.
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Please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show as our quest for truth, justice and the American way continues.