The Great America Show - THE D.C. SWAMP RUNS DEEP, BUT THIS TIME IT MAY BE DRAINED!

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:05.140 It's great to have you with us.

00:00:06.100 We're live from the swamp, or as some call it, the nation's capital.

00:00:09.420 Just a few moments ago, we sat down with House Oversight Chairman James Comer to talk about

00:00:13.560 a slew of issues.

00:00:14.680 What's going on in his committee?

00:00:16.240 The Biden auto pen scandal, Elon Musk coming out against the big, beautiful bill, coming

00:00:21.500 out against the GOP and President Trump, and Jasmine Crockett announcing she's looking

00:00:26.140 to overtake chairmanship of that committee that Comer sits as the chairman of.

00:00:30.960 They'd have to win back Congress first, which may be an uphill battle, considering all that

00:00:35.760 the Democrats have done over the last four and a half years.

00:00:38.880 Among many issues that Congress faces right now, and the Oversight Committee faces, is

00:00:43.380 that auto pen scandal.

00:00:45.640 Joe Biden signed a massive amount of pardons before he left office, his son among them.

00:00:50.840 But there was many other child predators, convicted felons for rape of children, and a slew

00:00:58.220 of terrible, terrible crimes that were all signed with this auto pen that we're hearing 0.82

00:01:02.840 about.

00:01:03.700 So who signed it?

00:01:05.040 Did Joe Biden even know his name was being signed on documents?

00:01:08.920 Who's responsible for it all?

00:01:10.740 We're going to take you now to that interview that we just did with House Oversight Chairman

00:01:13.900 James Comer on his thoughts on where this investigation goes and what he has in store for the rest

00:01:19.520 of this Congress.

00:01:20.840 Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for sitting down with me.

00:01:28.200 As I told you before we sat down, you were one of Lou Dobbs' favorites, so it really means

00:01:32.220 a lot that you've taken the time.

00:01:33.900 I want to start with first what's surrounding the news, this Biden auto pen scandal and everything

00:01:38.940 surrounding it.

00:01:40.160 Where are you guys at right now in investigation, number one?

00:01:43.220 Number two, how many people do you believe are complicit in this?

00:01:46.080 Was Hunter Biden complicit?

00:01:47.720 Did Joe even know what was going on?

00:01:49.480 Well, we're going to find out if Joe knew what was going on, because that's the basis

00:01:53.520 of the investigation.

00:01:54.760 We're moving really quickly.

00:01:56.740 We announced this investigation 10 days ago.

00:01:58.760 If it will go back 10 days, that's when Tapper started talking about his book.

00:02:04.320 Buttigieg gave an interview saying that he was blocked from access from Joe.

00:02:08.100 People started talking within the old Biden White House that Joe wasn't on the top of

00:02:15.120 his game, and they were trying to distance themselves from the auto pen when it came out

00:02:19.940 that the auto pen was used to sign all the executive orders and all the pardons.

00:02:24.700 So we announced the investigation.

00:02:27.180 We notified four staffers.

00:02:28.920 These are the four low-level, no-name staffers that we believe were the ones in charge of

00:02:33.180 manually placing the documents in the auto pen.

00:02:35.640 Somebody had to put the documents in the auto pen.

00:02:37.820 So we've identified the four employees who we believe did that.

00:02:41.860 I sent them letters saying, we would like for you to come in voluntarily to answer questions

00:02:46.460 from the House Oversight Committee.

00:02:47.760 That's all part of Duke's process.

00:02:49.200 You have to give them opportunity to hire lawyers if they want, which of course they

00:02:54.080 did, and then their lawyers respond to our lawyers.

00:02:57.260 I'm pleased to say that we should be announcing within a few hours, dates, that those four

00:03:03.220 employees are going to come in.

00:03:04.520 So now we've expanded the investigation to who we believe will be the ones who were instructing

00:03:10.800 the employees to put the documents in the auto pen.

00:03:13.780 So the reason for all this, obviously, is to determine who was running the White House

00:03:18.620 was Joe Biden actually giving the authority to use his signature, and if not, are these

00:03:25.880 executive orders, many of which were done in the last 100 days of the Biden administration,

00:03:30.360 many of which were done to Trump-proof this administration, are these then valid executive

00:03:38.140 orders?

00:03:38.580 And if not, that changes the course of history, to be honest.

00:03:41.960 So this is a significant investigation.

00:03:43.820 The difference in this investigation and other investigations that I've led with respect

00:03:49.080 to Biden, the media thus far hasn't been weaponized.

00:03:52.340 The media isn't saying there's no evidence that Joe Biden was, you know, wasn't completely

00:03:58.080 a mental invalid. 0.70

00:03:59.680 They know.

00:04:00.520 Yeah.

00:04:00.900 So I think the media has some level of curiosity now, and I think they've moved on for the

00:04:05.900 Biden.

00:04:06.180 So that's going to help us as we move forward.

00:04:08.560 What kind of constitutional issue does this pose, right?

00:04:11.760 You're the congressman here, so correct me if I'm wrong.

00:04:14.500 To me, it seems, as a layman, it's probably illegal for an auto pen or somebody else to

00:04:20.060 be signing your signature on documents that are signed into law.

00:04:23.360 And I understand, I worked in Congress, some of the letters that circulate Congress are

00:04:27.060 with a stamp, but that's under your approval.

00:04:28.940 You know what's going on.

00:04:30.100 What's the constitutionality, the problem there, if this man didn't even know what was

00:04:34.400 being signed into law?

00:04:35.560 Well, my advisors think that if he gave the authority, then they might could have a leg

00:04:42.520 to stand on in court.

00:04:43.620 The problem here is that no one believes that Joe Biden knew what was going on.

00:04:47.940 There is an interview that has surfaced in the last two weeks where he was asked by a

00:04:52.440 reporter about an executive order.

00:04:53.720 He had just signed that day, and he had no idea what that reporter was talking about.

00:04:57.840 That's pretty damaging evidence that Joe Biden had no knowledge of who was using that

00:05:03.720 auto pen.

00:05:04.120 And so, you know, I don't know that you can get the executive orders kicked out just because

00:05:09.180 of the use of the auto pen.

00:05:10.320 There's a precedent where presidents have used the auto pen sparingly before.

00:05:14.880 I think Obama did when he was out of the country on something, but never to the degree that

00:05:19.240 Joe Biden, and the general rule is you have to sign your own signature with anything pertaining

00:05:23.640 to the law.

00:05:24.280 So, you know, it's a little bit up to interpretation as to whether or not you can use the auto pen.

00:05:29.900 And the question here is, did Joe Biden give the authority to use it?

00:05:34.300 Was he knowledgeable enough to know what he was giving the authority for?

00:05:40.500 And that's why we're bringing in Dr. O'Connor, who is the White House physician, to ask him

00:05:45.320 questions about Joe Biden's mental fitness.

00:05:47.780 So that's that's my next question is you mentioned Jake Tapper.

00:05:52.000 Everyone now all of a sudden is coming out.

00:05:53.820 What we knew, what you had been saying for years, that this man is not mentally fit.

00:05:58.780 He's not all there in the head.

00:06:00.140 He's demented in some way or another.

00:06:01.820 I don't know what.

00:06:02.420 I'm not a doctor, but apparently neither is Dr. O'Connell.

00:06:05.540 This is the man who's treating a man who now we find out has prostate cancer, which doctors

00:06:09.340 are saying probably was around for five to 10 years.

00:06:12.040 OK, we're men.

00:06:12.960 We all know what happens after 50.

00:06:14.300 You go every year to get your prostate checked to make sure that you're not getting prostate

00:06:17.480 cancer.

00:06:17.980 OK, you have that.

00:06:19.480 You have this man going in for a yearly physical under a doctor's order.

00:06:22.740 But it's not even that you have the mainstream media so complicit making you look like a 0.76

00:06:26.740 crazy man while you're investigating him, saying this man is out of his mind.

00:06:30.260 He's losing it.

00:06:31.320 But you're the crazy man and the media is right.

00:06:33.220 But now we've got Jake Tapper and all these other people who are coming around saying, well,

00:06:37.480 we didn't see it.

00:06:38.440 On 60 Minutes the other night, Bill Clinton, of all people, who I, in my opinion, is not

00:06:43.340 all there either.

00:06:44.320 It's what happens when you get older, right?

00:06:46.520 Saying that he never saw any sort of problem with his mental fitness, nothing whatsoever.

00:06:51.040 That's their token doctor is Bill Clinton.

00:06:54.100 I mean, what's going on here?

00:06:55.860 Yeah, well, obviously, the American people know that there was a cover up.

00:07:00.420 They saw on live TV during the debate that Joe Biden wasn't all there.

00:07:08.440 Now, the reports that are coming out are more and more damaging that Joe didn't know.

00:07:14.080 He got lost in the closet.

00:07:16.100 You know, he he he was shielded from staff.

00:07:19.640 You know, the cabinets are booty jegs claiming he didn't see him for a long time.

00:07:23.160 You know, anyone that wants to have a future in politics is going to come out and distance

00:07:28.660 himself from the Biden family.

00:07:30.960 So I think that the truth is is slowly emerging with respect to the fitness.

00:07:37.860 Now, the physician, if you'll remember, his name came out in the Biden influence peddling

00:07:42.960 schemes.

00:07:43.560 He was in on a deal, a domestic scheme with Jim Biden and Joe Biden.

00:07:48.600 It was ironically the one deal that we found where Joe Biden profited two hundred thousand

00:07:53.800 dollars.

00:07:54.280 This was the same scheme.

00:07:56.440 So this guy was was Joe Biden's physician when he was vice president, stayed as his physician

00:08:01.880 when the four years when they were in the private sector, when Trump was president the first

00:08:06.440 time.

00:08:06.880 And then they brought him back as a civilian to be the physician.

00:08:11.200 You know, he consistently issued reports saying Joe Biden was healthy.

00:08:15.000 Now, everyone that knows anything about prostate cancer, my father, grandfather and great

00:08:18.620 grandfather all had prostate cancer.

00:08:20.020 So I have really studied a lot about prostate cancer.

00:08:23.020 I get my PSA check twice a year and all that.

00:08:26.100 So, you know, no one believes that he just found out he had stage four prostate cancer.

00:08:33.460 You know, that's something that you have to have for a long time.

00:08:35.940 No one believes what the physician said, that he didn't test his PSA for 10 years.

00:08:39.920 Yeah.

00:08:39.960 Everyone gets their PSA tested, every man from probably 45 on.

00:08:44.880 So, but if you will remember going back to old interviews that, you know, we're researching

00:08:51.600 and others are researching, Joe Biden slipped up once and said he had cancer.

00:08:55.520 And then the White House quickly issued a statement saying he misspoke.

00:08:58.720 How do you misspeak about having cancer?

00:09:02.340 So if at that point he knew he had cancer, then Dr. O'Connor lied consistently to the American

00:09:08.600 people and the White House lied to the American people and said he didn't.

00:09:12.580 And remember, these same people tried to get Joe Biden to, they tried to keep him on the

00:09:18.000 ballot for another four years as president.

00:09:21.660 I mean, it's just unthinkable what was going on there.

00:09:24.780 It makes you wonder who's running the show.

00:09:26.460 Sitting right across from me is the great Mark Mitchell of Rasmus.

00:09:28.940 Mark, what were the numbers for the American people with Joe Biden's mental decline?

00:09:34.180 That's one of the sickest things.

00:09:35.920 Americans knew that he was gone.

00:09:37.600 Well, 66% of them wanted him to get a mental exam in February of 22.

00:09:42.540 And 68% of them agreed that Joe Biden's mental decline had been apparent over time.

00:09:47.560 So this is way before anybody in the media touched it.

00:09:49.640 They'd seen all the videos.

00:09:50.740 They made up their minds.

00:09:51.740 And then, of course, nobody's addressing it.

00:09:53.660 Yeah.

00:09:54.440 The American people saw it.

00:09:55.760 We saw it.

00:09:56.920 As a man who covered news every day, producing Lou Dobbs' shows, we lived it every day.

00:10:02.180 And you know what?

00:10:02.680 The truth of the matter is, I don't think you have a mean bone in your body.

00:10:05.420 You're probably one of the few people out here who does.

00:10:07.080 I think it probably troubled you, and correct me if I'm wrong, to see this man tripping going

00:10:10.840 up steps, tripping falling down steps, falling on stage.

00:10:13.500 It's just an embarrassment to the country.

00:10:14.780 It's an embarrassment to his family.

00:10:16.200 It's an embarrassment to just about everybody.

00:10:18.020 We didn't want to see that happening.

00:10:19.600 Yet the media sold it that this man was as healthy as can be.

00:10:23.180 But Donald Trump's the one with dementia.

00:10:25.220 He closes his eyes for a second.

00:10:26.620 He blinks.

00:10:27.060 They catch him on camera with his eyes closed.

00:10:28.840 He's falling asleep.

00:10:29.860 See, when Ronnie Jackson was out there saying, this man is healthy, you know, he's a little

00:10:33.900 heavy, he eats McDonald's, but who is it?

00:10:36.740 But Donald Trump is the one who's not healthy.

00:10:40.060 Do you think we ever get accountability out of the, maybe not the media, but these people?

00:10:44.720 On the right over here, I had to look at, I know Ian Samms was one of your good friends

00:10:47.980 over here, but who I looked at, he doesn't have a job right now.

00:10:50.540 He's politically consulting.

00:10:52.140 Oh, yeah.

00:10:53.000 Is he a person you'd like to bring in and talk to?

00:10:55.280 I would, I would love to talk to Ian Samms.

00:10:58.520 You know, we have so many clips of just him looking in with his ugly little bald head

00:11:03.320 in the camera, lying, just lying to the American people about Joe Biden, lying about Joe Biden

00:11:09.520 mental fitness, lying about Joe Biden and his family's influence peddling, lying about Joe

00:11:15.640 Biden's knowledge and participation in his family's influence peddling.

00:11:19.620 So he's a person of interest.

00:11:21.400 You know, he seemed, he would, he, he loved to go in front of the TV camera and he loved

00:11:26.580 to attack me and Jim Jordan.

00:11:29.500 So, you know, he seemed to be very knowledgeable when he was going in front of the TV camera.

00:11:33.620 I think he would be a very good person to come in and explain what was going on in the

00:11:38.980 Biden White House because he sure acted like he knew everything.

00:11:41.640 And I hate it that he is unemployed now.

00:11:43.940 And I'm, I'm shocked that he's not in high demand in the private sector.

00:11:47.680 Maybe we can check with your staff.

00:11:49.100 If you have an intern position, I'm sure he'd suit you well.

00:11:52.640 You know, we always need somebody to clean the bathroom. 0.97

00:11:57.640 Well, you know what?

00:11:58.540 In Sam's, if you're listening, I'm sure this will be out there somewhere where you'll be

00:12:01.040 able to, to come apply for a job.

00:12:02.800 I want to turn to something that you hear all the time.

00:12:05.700 And I get blowback, the audience, the listeners, we want to arrest Comer and Jordan.

00:12:09.820 They're not doing anything.

00:12:10.960 They're not arresting anybody.

00:12:13.000 First of all, you're not a cop.

00:12:14.320 You don't have the power to arrest anybody.

00:12:16.700 What your job is to do is to make the recommendation to the Department of Justice.

00:12:20.960 And if they are not corrupt, Merrick Garland, they heed the warning and they heed the indictment

00:12:27.240 and they either follow up or they don't.

00:12:29.640 Tell the audience, if you will, how it works.

00:12:33.480 Congress cannot arrest anyone.

00:12:35.060 If Congress could arrest anyone, Adam Schiff would have arrested everybody when he was

00:12:40.060 chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, when he was leading the first Trump impeachment.

00:12:44.720 All Congress can do is investigate.

00:12:46.740 We have subpoena power.

00:12:48.440 We can subpoena documents.

00:12:50.620 Now, it was very difficult to subpoena documents in the Biden White House because they fought

00:12:56.140 us.

00:12:56.380 Merrick Garland fought us every step of the way.

00:12:58.920 The FBI, the deep state, they fought us every step of the way.

00:13:02.560 But we were successful in getting the bank records.

00:13:05.640 I subpoenaed bank records from the private banks.

00:13:07.980 The private banks turned over the bank records.

00:13:10.420 Once the bank records emerged, then you saw you could follow the money.

00:13:15.000 And it was obvious what the Bidens were doing.

00:13:16.820 They were taking monies from our enemies around the world to the tune of tens of millions of

00:13:20.720 dollars.

00:13:20.960 And according to the Irish whistleblowers who came forward because of our investigation,

00:13:25.980 the Bidens never paid a penny of taxes on it.

00:13:27.840 So that was a huge scandal.

00:13:29.600 Now, this scandal, we have a attorney general that I assume is going to be working with

00:13:36.280 us on this that will, at the very least, not obstruct our investigation.

00:13:40.200 We've got a media that at this point isn't as weaponized as it was because I think that

00:13:46.380 they know the truth is going to eventually come out because people like Ian Sams are going

00:13:52.140 to eventually get disgruntled and start talking.

00:13:54.600 So I think that we'll be able to get information.

00:14:00.900 And if there are criminal referrals, then we will issue to a what I hope to be a friendly

00:14:07.120 attorney general in Pan Bondi.

00:14:09.160 Now, the basic role for Congress is to get information.

00:14:15.060 And all the most we can do, the most we can do is issue criminal referrals.

00:14:20.420 Now, you can impeach, but not my committee.

00:14:22.960 They would always say, why isn't Comer impeaching?

00:14:24.560 It's the Judiciary Committee that impeaches.

00:14:27.080 And let's be realistic about impeachment.

00:14:30.140 I know the Democrats are going to say they're going to impeach Trump if they flip the House

00:14:33.960 and all that.

00:14:34.540 But at the end of the day, it takes 67 votes in the Senate to convict.

00:14:39.320 No president in history has ever been removed from office because of impeachment.

00:14:43.280 None.

00:14:43.700 Zero.

00:14:44.060 People forget about that.

00:14:44.900 So impeachment is really nothing.

00:14:48.540 The Democrats have cheapened it.

00:14:50.960 The Republicans impeached Clinton.

00:14:52.600 He's still around.

00:14:53.640 He never left office.

00:14:54.840 The Democrats impeached Trump.

00:14:56.520 It really doesn't mean anything.

00:14:58.860 The damage is, number one, getting the truth to the American people, which we have been successful

00:15:03.300 at.

00:15:04.040 And number two, issuing criminal referrals, which we did for Hunter Biden and Jim Biden.

00:15:08.620 Of course, Joe Biden and or the Audubon issued pardons at the last minute for the Biden family.

00:15:16.220 The other problem is, is to correct me if I'm wrong.

00:15:18.900 The Republican Party, it seems there's no unity in it.

00:15:22.480 You do all this good work.

00:15:24.200 You show the receipts.

00:15:25.740 They call you a liar.

00:15:26.920 But you have Republicans on our side of the aisle who sit there and can sit there with a

00:15:32.340 straight face and say, we can't impeach him.

00:15:34.600 This isn't good enough evidence.

00:15:35.820 I mean, what is the problem with these people?

00:15:38.220 Whereas the Democrats, you can get every single one of those stooges to go out and eat yellow 1.00

00:15:42.920 snow if their leader tells them to do so.

00:15:45.100 But the Republicans, you cannot get unanimous consent.

00:15:48.480 I mean, you look at the big, beautiful bill.

00:15:50.040 They had to have, I won't even get to the story of what happened, but one member fell

00:15:53.940 asleep in the back of the room.

00:15:54.840 So, you know, he didn't make the vote.

00:15:56.800 Why is it that the Republican Party cannot unite?

00:15:59.840 Well, it's a frustration for me.

00:16:01.340 And, you know, I always said when we were leading the Biden influence peddling investigation,

00:16:05.620 which everyone now agrees was very effective.

00:16:09.640 Everyone now agrees we got the truth.

00:16:12.160 No one denies anything in our final report.

00:16:14.440 I wrote a book.

00:16:15.260 No one denies anything in the book about the Biden corruption.

00:16:18.980 So at the end of the day, you know, we did our job.

00:16:23.360 But throughout the whole process, there were Republicans criticizing me all the time.

00:16:27.160 There were Republicans that would go on the record, there were Republicans that wouldn't.

00:16:29.820 There were staffers, leadership staffers, always taking shots at Jim Jordan and me.

00:16:35.420 And it's very frustrating.

00:16:37.940 I said, I didn't mind fighting Jake Tapper and CNN and Rachel Maddow and MSNBC, but it would

00:16:43.560 get, you know, it was frustrating fighting.

00:16:46.120 I'm not going to mention conservative commentators that are bloggers, not on TV shows or anything.

00:16:53.480 But it hurts because if a Republican in Congress comes out and criticize it, the Democrats are

00:16:59.580 going to take it and run with it.

00:17:00.780 Just like on the big, beautiful bill, you've got, you know, a few members of Congress, some

00:17:05.120 from my home state that have been critical of the bill.

00:17:08.640 Well, that's all that's on NBC and CBS and ABC.

00:17:12.800 And it hurts the momentum.

00:17:14.520 You never hear Democrats doing that.

00:17:16.180 So it's frustrating.

00:17:17.640 But I'll say this, there are 220 Republicans in the House and 53 Republicans in the Senate.

00:17:25.980 They're only about 10 or 15.

00:17:28.140 But those 10 or 15 get a lot of press because if you're willing to criticize another Republican,

00:17:32.800 especially Donald Trump, you're going to get on mainstream media and they're going to be nice to you.

00:17:38.720 The only problem is nobody's watching.

00:17:40.260 If you look at cable news, television, Jake Tapper's got his new book out.

00:17:43.240 Now, Jake Tapper's managed to do something you never want to do in politics.

00:17:46.760 You never want to alienate your base, number one.

00:17:49.100 And number two, you never want to alienate the middle.

00:17:51.680 He's managed to piss off the Marxist Dems and he's managed to piss off the Republicans because

00:17:56.140 of what he's done for the last four years.

00:17:57.520 And his ratings are at all time low.

00:17:58.980 It's the reason why people tune into this podcast.

00:18:00.820 It's the reason why people are tuning into all independent, you know, conservative and

00:18:05.060 mainstream media news outlets far surpassing the ratings of CNN.

00:18:09.360 And I do shows that get better ratings than CNN.

00:18:11.540 I mean, it's pathetic.

00:18:12.780 It's truly pathetic.

00:18:13.580 But I think the American people have woken up.

00:18:15.800 Looking forward to 2026, this is where I see a massive problem.

00:18:19.980 And it may be a leadership problem.

00:18:21.260 I'm not entirely sure.

00:18:22.880 But to me, it seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Mike Johnson doesn't really care

00:18:27.100 about holding the majority in the House right now just based on what's happening.

00:18:31.640 To me, it seems almost like a Paul Ryan 2.0.

00:18:34.380 Well, I think, I haven't talked to Mike Johnson specifically, but I would assume that his

00:18:40.940 objective is to pass the Trump agenda.

00:18:43.360 So the Trump agenda is the budget reconciliation bill or what Trump calls the big, beautiful

00:18:49.920 bill.

00:18:50.240 That is the Trump agenda.

00:18:51.240 It's the tax cuts.

00:18:52.700 And when Republicans criticize the spending, what they're calling spending are tax cuts.

00:19:00.740 I don't consider that spending.

00:19:02.140 Spending is going out, buying the Pentagon, wasting money, buying unnecessary military

00:19:08.780 equipment, having people draw welfare that are ineligible for welfare.

00:19:13.740 That's spending.

00:19:14.760 Yeah.

00:19:15.380 OK, a bridge to nowhere.

00:19:16.500 That's spending.

00:19:17.860 Tax cuts are not spending.

00:19:19.880 So the big, beautiful bill also has border security in there.

00:19:23.680 It has a lot of policy in there.

00:19:25.660 So it's a pretty substantial bill.

00:19:27.780 Uh, also the rescissions package and, and they're Trump's starting to send them over.

00:19:33.240 Just sent one over in the last 24 hours, which are the doge cuts, right?

00:19:38.140 We'll, we'll pass that out.

00:19:39.260 I think once those are passed, I think the, the path to be reelected and to keep the majority

00:19:46.320 becomes easier because it doesn't matter what we do, uh, how much money we raise, what our

00:19:52.260 message is in the midterm elections, if we don't pass the Trump agenda, then, then we're

00:19:58.640 probably not going to maintain the majority.

00:20:00.860 So I think all the King's horses and all the King's men are in on passing this big, beautiful

00:20:05.740 bill and the rescissions packages and the doge cuts and things like that.

00:20:10.680 Yeah.

00:20:11.040 I, they, I, they really got to get together.

00:20:12.820 Mark Mitchell does this polling on every day and people are just very resentful.

00:20:17.260 I mean, you look at, you said, mentioned Pam Bonney before, you know, the Epstein files,

00:20:21.500 they're on the desk, they're on the desk, they're coming out next week and it's an influencer

00:20:24.920 thing.

00:20:25.320 It's, I mean, just so idiotic on how they're doing things.

00:20:29.920 There's a way that you can message things.

00:20:31.780 Don't give everything all at once.

00:20:33.280 Let a little bit out.

00:20:34.200 When you did your investigation, you'd let out one thing, you'd let out the next thing

00:20:37.340 and you built this entire case.

00:20:39.400 Everything Donald Trump has done so far was just with the power of his own pen.

00:20:42.760 And I think the number is the least amount of bills sent to the president's desk in like

00:20:46.500 70 years from a Congress.

00:20:48.360 The American people see that.

00:20:49.800 And it kills me to know that you have worked so hard.

00:20:52.920 Donald Trump has worked so hard to get reelected, breaking all odds, winning an election three

00:20:56.540 times, never been done before.

00:20:58.340 And just to throw it all away at the end of the day, it breaks my heart.

00:21:03.100 I know it breaks Lou Dobbs's heart knowing everything that you guys have went through to

00:21:07.120 just throw it all away.

00:21:08.300 Yeah.

00:21:08.560 Well, hopefully we'll be effective at the end of the day.

00:21:10.800 It takes a long time to pass legislation.

00:21:13.120 Lots of egos in Congress.

00:21:16.480 You know, the Republicans must whomever that comes out and critical of the big, beautiful

00:21:21.720 bill that that, you know, complicates things.

00:21:24.060 Yes.

00:21:24.400 But it's not supposed to be easy.

00:21:26.000 And hopefully we will.

00:21:27.400 But I think that our.

00:21:31.080 Future election hopes and dreams depend on passing the president's agenda.

00:21:37.460 Yeah.

00:21:37.620 And it is frustrating when there are Republicans that are opposing it because there are things

00:21:42.180 you look at a bill that's a thousand pages long.

00:21:44.960 You're going to find things that you don't like.

00:21:46.800 I'm going to find things I don't like.

00:21:47.820 All part of getting to 218 in the House and 50 in the Senate involves giving and taking

00:21:55.320 and negotiating.

00:21:56.200 If you don't want to do that, if you're a member of Congress and say, I don't want to

00:21:58.820 do that.

00:21:59.200 I want it my way or no way.

00:22:00.560 Then you really don't need to be in Congress because unfortunately, our founding father

00:22:04.660 set it up to where you have to get a majority in the House.

00:22:07.600 And normally you have to get 60 out of 100 votes in the Senate, which means you would

00:22:12.000 have to get Democrats.

00:22:12.780 But because the budget reconciliation bill, you only have to get a majority.

00:22:16.380 So we don't have to fool with any Democrats.

00:22:19.220 And hopefully we'll be able to do it on our own.

00:22:22.020 And if we don't, no one to blame but the Republicans.

00:22:24.880 Yeah.

00:22:25.080 And the Senate, you already have problems because off the bat, you start with Murkowski, Susan

00:22:28.880 Collins.

00:22:29.240 And you've got Tom Tillis now is just acting like a total fool with what he did to Ed Martin.

00:22:34.040 And, you know, I broke, I did a show and I broke it down and I looked at where the money

00:22:38.020 is coming from.

00:22:39.300 And Tom Tillis took massive amounts of money from the Medicare lobby, from the medical fields.

00:22:44.320 In my opinion, we've got to get this money out of politics.

00:22:47.120 Walking in this building this morning, I couldn't even get into the building because it's just

00:22:50.620 lobbyist after lobbyist after lobbyist after.

00:22:53.820 I think we should pass a law here in Congress where everyone who takes money should wear a

00:22:58.660 NASCAR jacket and say, I am sponsored by X, Y, because then at least the American people

00:23:02.920 know what's going on.

00:23:04.340 To me, it's these people buy the power, they buy the influence that they need, and they

00:23:08.600 do what they have to do.

00:23:09.880 In your investigation, nothing stopped you.

00:23:11.640 You probably had death threat after death threat.

00:23:13.700 I did.

00:23:13.980 You probably had to worry about looking behind your back when you went home with your wife

00:23:17.260 and your kids.

00:23:17.940 But it didn't stop you.

00:23:19.220 Right.

00:23:19.500 Nothing could stop you.

00:23:20.700 Whereas these people get a phone call from any lobbying industry and says, I want this

00:23:27.640 done.

00:23:28.700 Done.

00:23:29.420 It's amazing.

00:23:30.220 There is a direct correlation with special interest money and members of Congress who

00:23:34.060 really want to disrupt the system.

00:23:37.140 And that's a good thing I'll brag on the Oversight Committee.

00:23:39.380 You look at our members on the Oversight Committee, not a lot of special interest love

00:23:44.540 for the Oversight Committee.

00:23:46.240 But then you look at the Ways and Means Committee and the Energy and Commerce Committee and the

00:23:50.620 Appropriations Committee.

00:23:51.440 Those are your policy committees.

00:23:53.800 There's a lot of love from special interest in K Street for those committees.

00:23:57.660 So I think the biggest problem that exists in Congress is the amount of time people stay

00:24:05.680 in Congress.

00:24:06.500 So I think one of the biggest solutions, long-term solutions to fixing a broken Congress is term

00:24:12.120 limits.

00:24:13.080 And it's not, you know, term limits isn't as big a problem in the House as it is the

00:24:16.920 Senate.

00:24:17.340 The Senate, my God.

00:24:19.700 But you need to do it, I think, 12 years in the House and 12 years in the Senate is

00:24:24.400 plenty of time.

00:24:25.020 You know, people say, oh, you need seniority, seniority.

00:24:27.800 I use it myself as an example.

00:24:30.460 Seniority doesn't mean anything in the House.

00:24:31.820 It does in the Senate.

00:24:33.420 Chairmanships are determined in the Senate by seniority.

00:24:35.440 In the House, you run for...

00:24:36.800 But you've got a good parking spot outside, too.

00:24:38.620 Yeah, well, I don't drive.

00:24:41.020 I've never...

00:24:42.140 I'm too small a town.

00:24:43.660 I couldn't navigate the roads very well.

00:24:45.600 Good for you.

00:24:45.800 But, you know, at the end of the day, you run for chairmanship and you run for leadership

00:24:53.240 in the House.

00:24:54.440 I became the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee after just three and a half years

00:24:59.300 in Congress.

00:25:00.460 So, you know, everyone who I ran against had more seniority than I did.

00:25:05.040 Seniority doesn't mean anything in the House.

00:25:07.240 So, you know, one of the biggest arguments against term limits is, oh, you've got to

00:25:11.440 have seniority.

00:25:12.200 That's not a thing.

00:25:13.400 Yeah.

00:25:13.680 That's not a thing.

00:25:14.620 Yeah.

00:25:15.260 I would even be in favor, if they didn't want to go to term limits, make the senators 0.86

00:25:18.820 run every two years, too.

00:25:20.300 Yeah.

00:25:20.640 Make them run every two years to figure out so that people can see what's going on with

00:25:23.920 them.

00:25:24.360 Yeah.

00:25:24.620 Before we wrap up, I know you're strapped on time and I appreciate you really sitting

00:25:27.080 down with us today.

00:25:28.560 What's your outlook look like for this Congress as for your investigations?

00:25:33.300 Well, we've got a lot of...

00:25:34.420 It's not just the auto pin.

00:25:35.600 And obviously, that's become front and center because so much has come out in the last little

00:25:39.120 bit.

00:25:39.580 And if you think about what's the biggest thing holding Trump back now are a lot of

00:25:44.880 these executive orders that were used to Trump proof it.

00:25:47.600 A lot of his problems in court stem from some of these executive orders that Joe Biden signed.

00:25:52.600 If this investigation proves Joe Biden had no knowledge of that, then there's a good case

00:25:59.320 to get those executive orders declared null.

00:26:03.220 So, you know, I think that that's a major investigation.

00:26:09.200 We're bringing in 21 and we've got a lot of different investigations that we think pertain

00:26:16.020 to potential data breaches, not just with government entities, but private sector entities that could

00:26:21.780 create national security risk from China. 0.81

00:26:25.180 We're focused on, you know, some mysterious, suspicious contracts that the government's

00:26:31.480 issued.

00:26:32.020 We're working closely with Doge and some of the recommendations they recommended on, you

00:26:40.640 know, policy changes and things like that.

00:26:42.480 So now that the White House has got the rescission thing down, I think they understand that we're

00:26:48.460 going to be working with them and having hearings ahead of rescission package bills that come

00:26:54.000 in to save money.

00:26:55.300 We did the NPR and public television hearing that I think is going to be the first rescission

00:27:00.700 package that we do.

00:27:01.720 That was in the Oversight Committee in Marjorie Taylor Greene's subcommittee.

00:27:05.120 So we're going to play a role in trying to do what the committee is supposed to do, and

00:27:08.840 that's eliminate waste, fraud, abuse, and mismanagement in the federal government.

00:27:11.540 I think we've got a lot of opportunity, and I think having a friendly administration will

00:27:16.980 help an administration willing to cut waste, fraud, and abuse.

00:27:22.060 They just needed some time to get their people in the door to get confirmed, and I think now

00:27:27.400 we're in a position where hopefully with Pam Bondi, hopefully with, you know, all the other

00:27:32.260 cabinet secretaries that we can move forward at a fast pace and try to drain the swamp.

00:27:38.840 And disrupt this Washington that's out of control.

00:27:44.440 Last question.

00:27:45.600 Do you have the full faith and confidence in Pam Bondi?

00:27:48.460 I mean, in my opinion, we've seen nothing so far.

00:27:52.280 We've heard a lot of talk, as Lou Dobbs used to call a blather, but we've got nothing to

00:27:57.220 show for it.

00:27:57.980 I understand the Epstein files are long, and there's a lot into them, and they're very

00:28:01.660 complex, but give the people something.

00:28:03.840 Yeah.

00:28:04.380 Break it down.

00:28:05.060 Yeah, I think that it's taken her time to get her people in to understand the process.

00:28:12.700 Donald Trump brought in outsiders, and we wanted outsiders, and the American people wanted

00:28:19.380 outsiders, but it takes those outsiders a little time to understand the mechanism.

00:28:23.920 I think Musk was effective for the most part at Doge, but a lot of stuff that he recommended

00:28:29.480 he didn't really understand because he had never worked in government, like terminating

00:28:33.560 the federal employees.

00:28:34.560 It's very difficult to terminate federal employees.

00:28:36.620 There's a way to do it.

00:28:37.940 I don't know that he did it the right way, and I don't know how many of those that he

00:28:41.920 terminated are really terminated right now.

00:28:43.960 So we've got to work with these cabinet secretaries and the people in the Trump administration.

00:28:50.560 We've expressed our willingness, and our assistance is available.

00:28:57.520 We are now communicating with Pam Bondi.

00:28:59.980 It's taken her a while to just get settled in, and I think you're going to see more performance

00:29:08.440 out of her moving forward.

00:29:09.880 She certainly has the ability.

00:29:11.760 President Trump had confidence in her.

00:29:13.320 I don't know her, but I believe that she's going to get some things done.

00:29:18.000 It's just taken her a while to get her people in place.

00:29:20.640 And remember, she's fighting the deep state.

00:29:22.280 I mean, that's ground zero for the deep state and people.

00:29:26.220 She walked into an agency that's not her friend, and she's not going to get much cooperation

00:29:31.620 from the career staff at the Justice Cabinet.

00:29:35.060 Yeah, and we still have a lot of these holdovers who are hidden, buried deep down that we can't

00:29:38.760 seem to get rid of.

00:29:39.440 I mean, that's the root of the problem.

00:29:41.820 You've got them.

00:29:42.540 But in my opinion, Pam Bondi's got to crap or get off the toilet. 1.00

00:29:46.260 I think that's the saying.

00:29:47.500 Get the job done or pass a little torch to somebody who can get it done.

00:29:51.500 Thanks for all the work that you're doing, and we appreciate you sitting down with us,

00:29:53.840 Congressman.

00:29:54.320 Thanks for having me.

00:29:55.240 Thanks, everybody, for being with us tonight here on The Great America Show.

00:29:57.500 Tomorrow, we're back with House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan and Nancy Mace.

00:30:02.580 We take up all these issues that are facing Congress right now, and what they're going

00:30:07.020 to do to stop these Marxist ends, these rogue judges who mean to destroy this country, and

00:30:12.200 they're doing just that.

00:30:13.720 We'll see you back here tomorrow for The Great America Show.

00:30:15.400 Until then, may God bless you.

00:30:16.980 May God bless America.

00:30:17.900 And may God bless the great Lou Dobbs.

00:30:19.820 Have a wonderful night, everybody.

00:30:21.140 Have a wonderful night, everybody.

The Great America Show - June 05, 2025

THE D.C. SWAMP RUNS DEEP, BUT THIS TIME IT MAY BE DRAINED!

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