THE D.C. SWAMP RUNS DEEP, BUT THIS TIME IT MAY BE DRAINED!
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In this episode, we sit down with Rep. James Comer (D-VA) to discuss the Biden Autopan scandal, which involves a pen used by former Vice President Joe Biden to sign executive orders and pardons.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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We're live from the swamp, or as some call it, the nation's capital.
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Just a few moments ago, we sat down with House Oversight Chairman James Comer to talk about
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The Biden auto pen scandal, Elon Musk coming out against the big, beautiful bill, coming
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out against the GOP and President Trump, and Jasmine Crockett announcing she's looking
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to overtake chairmanship of that committee that Comer sits as the chairman of.
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They'd have to win back Congress first, which may be an uphill battle, considering all that
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the Democrats have done over the last four and a half years.
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Among many issues that Congress faces right now, and the Oversight Committee faces, is
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Joe Biden signed a massive amount of pardons before he left office, his son among them.
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But there was many other child predators, convicted felons for rape of children, and a slew
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of terrible, terrible crimes that were all signed with this auto pen that we're hearing
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Did Joe Biden even know his name was being signed on documents?
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We're going to take you now to that interview that we just did with House Oversight Chairman
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James Comer on his thoughts on where this investigation goes and what he has in store for the rest
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Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for sitting down with me.
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As I told you before we sat down, you were one of Lou Dobbs' favorites, so it really means
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I want to start with first what's surrounding the news, this Biden auto pen scandal and everything
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Where are you guys at right now in investigation, number one?
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Number two, how many people do you believe are complicit in this?
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Well, we're going to find out if Joe knew what was going on, because that's the basis
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If it will go back 10 days, that's when Tapper started talking about his book.
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Buttigieg gave an interview saying that he was blocked from access from Joe.
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People started talking within the old Biden White House that Joe wasn't on the top of
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his game, and they were trying to distance themselves from the auto pen when it came out
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that the auto pen was used to sign all the executive orders and all the pardons.
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These are the four low-level, no-name staffers that we believe were the ones in charge of
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manually placing the documents in the auto pen.
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Somebody had to put the documents in the auto pen.
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So we've identified the four employees who we believe did that.
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I sent them letters saying, we would like for you to come in voluntarily to answer questions
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You have to give them opportunity to hire lawyers if they want, which of course they
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did, and then their lawyers respond to our lawyers.
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I'm pleased to say that we should be announcing within a few hours, dates, that those four
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So now we've expanded the investigation to who we believe will be the ones who were instructing
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the employees to put the documents in the auto pen.
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So the reason for all this, obviously, is to determine who was running the White House
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was Joe Biden actually giving the authority to use his signature, and if not, are these
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executive orders, many of which were done in the last 100 days of the Biden administration,
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many of which were done to Trump-proof this administration, are these then valid executive
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And if not, that changes the course of history, to be honest.
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The difference in this investigation and other investigations that I've led with respect
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to Biden, the media thus far hasn't been weaponized.
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The media isn't saying there's no evidence that Joe Biden was, you know, wasn't completely
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So I think the media has some level of curiosity now, and I think they've moved on for the
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What kind of constitutional issue does this pose, right?
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You're the congressman here, so correct me if I'm wrong.
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To me, it seems, as a layman, it's probably illegal for an auto pen or somebody else to
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be signing your signature on documents that are signed into law.
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And I understand, I worked in Congress, some of the letters that circulate Congress are
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What's the constitutionality, the problem there, if this man didn't even know what was
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Well, my advisors think that if he gave the authority, then they might could have a leg
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The problem here is that no one believes that Joe Biden knew what was going on.
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There is an interview that has surfaced in the last two weeks where he was asked by a
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He had just signed that day, and he had no idea what that reporter was talking about.
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That's pretty damaging evidence that Joe Biden had no knowledge of who was using that
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And so, you know, I don't know that you can get the executive orders kicked out just because
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There's a precedent where presidents have used the auto pen sparingly before.
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I think Obama did when he was out of the country on something, but never to the degree that
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Joe Biden, and the general rule is you have to sign your own signature with anything pertaining
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So, you know, it's a little bit up to interpretation as to whether or not you can use the auto pen.
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And the question here is, did Joe Biden give the authority to use it?
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Was he knowledgeable enough to know what he was giving the authority for?
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And that's why we're bringing in Dr. O'Connor, who is the White House physician, to ask him
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So that's that's my next question is you mentioned Jake Tapper.
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What we knew, what you had been saying for years, that this man is not mentally fit.
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I'm not a doctor, but apparently neither is Dr. O'Connell.
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This is the man who's treating a man who now we find out has prostate cancer, which doctors
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are saying probably was around for five to 10 years.
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You go every year to get your prostate checked to make sure that you're not getting prostate
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You have this man going in for a yearly physical under a doctor's order.
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But it's not even that you have the mainstream media so complicit making you look like a
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crazy man while you're investigating him, saying this man is out of his mind.
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But you're the crazy man and the media is right.
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But now we've got Jake Tapper and all these other people who are coming around saying, well,
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On 60 Minutes the other night, Bill Clinton, of all people, who I, in my opinion, is not
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Saying that he never saw any sort of problem with his mental fitness, nothing whatsoever.
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Yeah, well, obviously, the American people know that there was a cover up.
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They saw on live TV during the debate that Joe Biden wasn't all there.
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Now, the reports that are coming out are more and more damaging that Joe didn't know.
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You know, the cabinets are booty jegs claiming he didn't see him for a long time.
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You know, anyone that wants to have a future in politics is going to come out and distance
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So I think that the truth is is slowly emerging with respect to the fitness.
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Now, the physician, if you'll remember, his name came out in the Biden influence peddling
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He was in on a deal, a domestic scheme with Jim Biden and Joe Biden.
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It was ironically the one deal that we found where Joe Biden profited two hundred thousand
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So this guy was was Joe Biden's physician when he was vice president, stayed as his physician
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when the four years when they were in the private sector, when Trump was president the first
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And then they brought him back as a civilian to be the physician.
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You know, he consistently issued reports saying Joe Biden was healthy.
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Now, everyone that knows anything about prostate cancer, my father, grandfather and great
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So I have really studied a lot about prostate cancer.
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So, you know, no one believes that he just found out he had stage four prostate cancer.
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You know, that's something that you have to have for a long time.
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No one believes what the physician said, that he didn't test his PSA for 10 years.
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Everyone gets their PSA tested, every man from probably 45 on.
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So, but if you will remember going back to old interviews that, you know, we're researching
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and others are researching, Joe Biden slipped up once and said he had cancer.
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And then the White House quickly issued a statement saying he misspoke.
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So if at that point he knew he had cancer, then Dr. O'Connor lied consistently to the American
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people and the White House lied to the American people and said he didn't.
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And remember, these same people tried to get Joe Biden to, they tried to keep him on the
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I mean, it's just unthinkable what was going on there.
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Sitting right across from me is the great Mark Mitchell of Rasmus.
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Mark, what were the numbers for the American people with Joe Biden's mental decline?
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Well, 66% of them wanted him to get a mental exam in February of 22.
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And 68% of them agreed that Joe Biden's mental decline had been apparent over time.
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So this is way before anybody in the media touched it.
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As a man who covered news every day, producing Lou Dobbs' shows, we lived it every day.
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The truth of the matter is, I don't think you have a mean bone in your body.
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You're probably one of the few people out here who does.
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I think it probably troubled you, and correct me if I'm wrong, to see this man tripping going
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up steps, tripping falling down steps, falling on stage.
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Yet the media sold it that this man was as healthy as can be.
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See, when Ronnie Jackson was out there saying, this man is healthy, you know, he's a little
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Do you think we ever get accountability out of the, maybe not the media, but these people?
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On the right over here, I had to look at, I know Ian Samms was one of your good friends
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over here, but who I looked at, he doesn't have a job right now.
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Is he a person you'd like to bring in and talk to?
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You know, we have so many clips of just him looking in with his ugly little bald head
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in the camera, lying, just lying to the American people about Joe Biden, lying about Joe Biden
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mental fitness, lying about Joe Biden and his family's influence peddling, lying about Joe
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Biden's knowledge and participation in his family's influence peddling.
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You know, he seemed, he would, he, he loved to go in front of the TV camera and he loved
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So, you know, he seemed to be very knowledgeable when he was going in front of the TV camera.
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I think he would be a very good person to come in and explain what was going on in the
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Biden White House because he sure acted like he knew everything.
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And I'm, I'm shocked that he's not in high demand in the private sector.
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If you have an intern position, I'm sure he'd suit you well.
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You know, we always need somebody to clean the bathroom.
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In Sam's, if you're listening, I'm sure this will be out there somewhere where you'll be
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I want to turn to something that you hear all the time.
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And I get blowback, the audience, the listeners, we want to arrest Comer and Jordan.
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What your job is to do is to make the recommendation to the Department of Justice.
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And if they are not corrupt, Merrick Garland, they heed the warning and they heed the indictment
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If Congress could arrest anyone, Adam Schiff would have arrested everybody when he was
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chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, when he was leading the first Trump impeachment.
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Now, it was very difficult to subpoena documents in the Biden White House because they fought
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Merrick Garland fought us every step of the way.
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The FBI, the deep state, they fought us every step of the way.
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But we were successful in getting the bank records.
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I subpoenaed bank records from the private banks.
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The private banks turned over the bank records.
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Once the bank records emerged, then you saw you could follow the money.
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They were taking monies from our enemies around the world to the tune of tens of millions of
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And according to the Irish whistleblowers who came forward because of our investigation,
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Now, this scandal, we have a attorney general that I assume is going to be working with
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us on this that will, at the very least, not obstruct our investigation.
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We've got a media that at this point isn't as weaponized as it was because I think that
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they know the truth is going to eventually come out because people like Ian Sams are going
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to eventually get disgruntled and start talking.
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So I think that we'll be able to get information.
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And if there are criminal referrals, then we will issue to a what I hope to be a friendly
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Now, the basic role for Congress is to get information.
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And all the most we can do, the most we can do is issue criminal referrals.
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They would always say, why isn't Comer impeaching?
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I know the Democrats are going to say they're going to impeach Trump if they flip the House
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But at the end of the day, it takes 67 votes in the Senate to convict.
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No president in history has ever been removed from office because of impeachment.
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The damage is, number one, getting the truth to the American people, which we have been successful
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And number two, issuing criminal referrals, which we did for Hunter Biden and Jim Biden.
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Of course, Joe Biden and or the Audubon issued pardons at the last minute for the Biden family.
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The other problem is, is to correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Republican Party, it seems there's no unity in it.
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But you have Republicans on our side of the aisle who sit there and can sit there with a
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Whereas the Democrats, you can get every single one of those stooges to go out and eat yellow
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But the Republicans, you cannot get unanimous consent.
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They had to have, I won't even get to the story of what happened, but one member fell
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Why is it that the Republican Party cannot unite?
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And, you know, I always said when we were leading the Biden influence peddling investigation,
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No one denies anything in the book about the Biden corruption.
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So at the end of the day, you know, we did our job.
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But throughout the whole process, there were Republicans criticizing me all the time.
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There were Republicans that would go on the record, there were Republicans that wouldn't.
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There were staffers, leadership staffers, always taking shots at Jim Jordan and me.
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I said, I didn't mind fighting Jake Tapper and CNN and Rachel Maddow and MSNBC, but it would
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I'm not going to mention conservative commentators that are bloggers, not on TV shows or anything.
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But it hurts because if a Republican in Congress comes out and criticize it, the Democrats are
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Just like on the big, beautiful bill, you've got, you know, a few members of Congress, some
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from my home state that have been critical of the bill.
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Well, that's all that's on NBC and CBS and ABC.
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But I'll say this, there are 220 Republicans in the House and 53 Republicans in the Senate.
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But those 10 or 15 get a lot of press because if you're willing to criticize another Republican,
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especially Donald Trump, you're going to get on mainstream media and they're going to be nice to you.
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If you look at cable news, television, Jake Tapper's got his new book out.
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Now, Jake Tapper's managed to do something you never want to do in politics.
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You never want to alienate your base, number one.
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And number two, you never want to alienate the middle.
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He's managed to piss off the Marxist Dems and he's managed to piss off the Republicans because
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It's the reason why people tune into this podcast.
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It's the reason why people are tuning into all independent, you know, conservative and
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mainstream media news outlets far surpassing the ratings of CNN.
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And I do shows that get better ratings than CNN.
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Looking forward to 2026, this is where I see a massive problem.
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But to me, it seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Mike Johnson doesn't really care
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about holding the majority in the House right now just based on what's happening.
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Well, I think, I haven't talked to Mike Johnson specifically, but I would assume that his
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So the Trump agenda is the budget reconciliation bill or what Trump calls the big, beautiful
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And when Republicans criticize the spending, what they're calling spending are tax cuts.
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Spending is going out, buying the Pentagon, wasting money, buying unnecessary military
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equipment, having people draw welfare that are ineligible for welfare.
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So the big, beautiful bill also has border security in there.
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Uh, also the rescissions package and, and they're Trump's starting to send them over.
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Just sent one over in the last 24 hours, which are the doge cuts, right?
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I think once those are passed, I think the, the path to be reelected and to keep the majority
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becomes easier because it doesn't matter what we do, uh, how much money we raise, what our
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message is in the midterm elections, if we don't pass the Trump agenda, then, then we're
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So I think all the King's horses and all the King's men are in on passing this big, beautiful
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bill and the rescissions packages and the doge cuts and things like that.
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Mark Mitchell does this polling on every day and people are just very resentful.
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I mean, you look at, you said, mentioned Pam Bonney before, you know, the Epstein files,
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they're on the desk, they're on the desk, they're coming out next week and it's an influencer
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It's, I mean, just so idiotic on how they're doing things.
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When you did your investigation, you'd let out one thing, you'd let out the next thing
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Everything Donald Trump has done so far was just with the power of his own pen.
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And I think the number is the least amount of bills sent to the president's desk in like
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And it kills me to know that you have worked so hard.
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Donald Trump has worked so hard to get reelected, breaking all odds, winning an election three
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And just to throw it all away at the end of the day, it breaks my heart.
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I know it breaks Lou Dobbs's heart knowing everything that you guys have went through to
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Well, hopefully we'll be effective at the end of the day.
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You know, the Republicans must whomever that comes out and critical of the big, beautiful
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Future election hopes and dreams depend on passing the president's agenda.
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And it is frustrating when there are Republicans that are opposing it because there are things
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you look at a bill that's a thousand pages long.
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You're going to find things that you don't like.
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All part of getting to 218 in the House and 50 in the Senate involves giving and taking
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If you don't want to do that, if you're a member of Congress and say, I don't want to
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Then you really don't need to be in Congress because unfortunately, our founding father
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set it up to where you have to get a majority in the House.
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And normally you have to get 60 out of 100 votes in the Senate, which means you would
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But because the budget reconciliation bill, you only have to get a majority.
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And hopefully we'll be able to do it on our own.
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And if we don't, no one to blame but the Republicans.
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And the Senate, you already have problems because off the bat, you start with Murkowski, Susan
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And you've got Tom Tillis now is just acting like a total fool with what he did to Ed Martin.
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And, you know, I broke, I did a show and I broke it down and I looked at where the money
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And Tom Tillis took massive amounts of money from the Medicare lobby, from the medical fields.
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In my opinion, we've got to get this money out of politics.
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Walking in this building this morning, I couldn't even get into the building because it's just
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I think we should pass a law here in Congress where everyone who takes money should wear a
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NASCAR jacket and say, I am sponsored by X, Y, because then at least the American people
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To me, it's these people buy the power, they buy the influence that they need, and they
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You probably had death threat after death threat.
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You probably had to worry about looking behind your back when you went home with your wife
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Whereas these people get a phone call from any lobbying industry and says, I want this
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There is a direct correlation with special interest money and members of Congress who
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And that's a good thing I'll brag on the Oversight Committee.
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You look at our members on the Oversight Committee, not a lot of special interest love
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But then you look at the Ways and Means Committee and the Energy and Commerce Committee and the
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There's a lot of love from special interest in K Street for those committees.
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So I think the biggest problem that exists in Congress is the amount of time people stay
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So I think one of the biggest solutions, long-term solutions to fixing a broken Congress is term
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And it's not, you know, term limits isn't as big a problem in the House as it is the
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But you need to do it, I think, 12 years in the House and 12 years in the Senate is
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You know, people say, oh, you need seniority, seniority.
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Chairmanships are determined in the Senate by seniority.
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But you've got a good parking spot outside, too.
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But, you know, at the end of the day, you run for chairmanship and you run for leadership
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I became the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee after just three and a half years
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So, you know, everyone who I ran against had more seniority than I did.
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So, you know, one of the biggest arguments against term limits is, oh, you've got to
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I would even be in favor, if they didn't want to go to term limits, make the senators
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Make them run every two years to figure out so that people can see what's going on with
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Before we wrap up, I know you're strapped on time and I appreciate you really sitting
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What's your outlook look like for this Congress as for your investigations?
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And obviously, that's become front and center because so much has come out in the last little
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And if you think about what's the biggest thing holding Trump back now are a lot of
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these executive orders that were used to Trump proof it.
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A lot of his problems in court stem from some of these executive orders that Joe Biden signed.
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If this investigation proves Joe Biden had no knowledge of that, then there's a good case
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So, you know, I think that that's a major investigation.
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We're bringing in 21 and we've got a lot of different investigations that we think pertain
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to potential data breaches, not just with government entities, but private sector entities that could
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We're focused on, you know, some mysterious, suspicious contracts that the government's
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We're working closely with Doge and some of the recommendations they recommended on, you
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So now that the White House has got the rescission thing down, I think they understand that we're
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going to be working with them and having hearings ahead of rescission package bills that come
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We did the NPR and public television hearing that I think is going to be the first rescission
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That was in the Oversight Committee in Marjorie Taylor Greene's subcommittee.
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So we're going to play a role in trying to do what the committee is supposed to do, and
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that's eliminate waste, fraud, abuse, and mismanagement in the federal government.
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I think we've got a lot of opportunity, and I think having a friendly administration will
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help an administration willing to cut waste, fraud, and abuse.
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They just needed some time to get their people in the door to get confirmed, and I think now
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we're in a position where hopefully with Pam Bondi, hopefully with, you know, all the other
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cabinet secretaries that we can move forward at a fast pace and try to drain the swamp.
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And disrupt this Washington that's out of control.
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Do you have the full faith and confidence in Pam Bondi?
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I mean, in my opinion, we've seen nothing so far.
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We've heard a lot of talk, as Lou Dobbs used to call a blather, but we've got nothing to
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I understand the Epstein files are long, and there's a lot into them, and they're very
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Yeah, I think that it's taken her time to get her people in to understand the process.
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Donald Trump brought in outsiders, and we wanted outsiders, and the American people wanted
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outsiders, but it takes those outsiders a little time to understand the mechanism.
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I think Musk was effective for the most part at Doge, but a lot of stuff that he recommended
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he didn't really understand because he had never worked in government, like terminating
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It's very difficult to terminate federal employees.
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I don't know that he did it the right way, and I don't know how many of those that he
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So we've got to work with these cabinet secretaries and the people in the Trump administration.
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We've expressed our willingness, and our assistance is available.
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It's taken her a while to just get settled in, and I think you're going to see more performance
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I don't know her, but I believe that she's going to get some things done.
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It's just taken her a while to get her people in place.
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I mean, that's ground zero for the deep state and people.
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She walked into an agency that's not her friend, and she's not going to get much cooperation
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Yeah, and we still have a lot of these holdovers who are hidden, buried deep down that we can't
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But in my opinion, Pam Bondi's got to crap or get off the toilet.
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Get the job done or pass a little torch to somebody who can get it done.
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Thanks for all the work that you're doing, and we appreciate you sitting down with us,
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Thanks, everybody, for being with us tonight here on The Great America Show.
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Tomorrow, we're back with House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan and Nancy Mace.
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We take up all these issues that are facing Congress right now, and what they're going
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to do to stop these Marxist ends, these rogue judges who mean to destroy this country, and
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