The Great America Show - THE ELECTION SYSTEM IN ARIZONA FACES AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT SAYS MARK FINCHEM, AZ STATE REP

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show. Welcome, and good to have you with us as we celebrate truth, justice, and the American way.

00:00:10.540 Let's start with the Marxist-Dims' continued political persecution of America First and MAGA citizens, this time in the person of Steve Bannon, an icon of the MAGA right in this country and highly successful podcaster.

00:00:25.840 Steve was former chief strategist for President Trump, CEO of his campaign, and close advisor.

00:00:32.840 Bannon's Marxist-Dims persecutors include, of course, the January 6th committee, whose subpoena Bannon defied, and which Bannon, in the words of the court, attacked at every turn.

00:00:44.320 Good for you, Steve.

00:00:45.680 Also included are those Marxist-Dims who make up the DOJ prosecutors, the FBI agents who permit themselves to be used as nothing more than props,

00:00:55.840 and perform as no better than servile thugs of the Marxist-Dims who lead them.

00:01:01.400 And then there's federal district court judge Carl Nichols, who sentenced Bannon to four months in federal prison for contempt of Congress.

00:01:09.780 And, of course, he called out Bannon for mocking and attacking the Stalinist January 6th committee.

00:01:15.280 Now that committee has issued a subpoena for former President Trump, seeking a deposition from him on November 14th, and his records, of course, regarding his actions on January 6th, 2021.

00:01:29.280 Hardly a thunderbolt from the blue, the committee made it clear a week ago they would call on President Trump to testify.

00:01:36.020 And there is precedent on the side of the committee.

00:01:39.760 The committee, however, has a few other obstacles to overcome, and principal among them the very legitimacy or illegitimacy of the committee itself.

00:01:49.280 Think about how legitimate that committee really is, made up of seven mad Marxist-Dims and two mad Republicans in name only,

00:01:58.280 and not nominated by the GOP minority leader in the House, Kevin McCarthy.

00:02:02.560 In other words, the committee is a farce from beginning to end.

00:02:07.500 What a mess in Washington.

00:02:09.600 What a mess in this country.

00:02:11.780 And you'll be saddened to learn that Oprah Winfrey is frightened, scared that of all people, Stacey Abrams just might not be elected governor of Georgia.

00:02:22.220 Come on, Oprah.

00:02:23.640 If that's your biggest fear, you're doing pretty well.

00:02:26.780 Most folks in Georgia, I would think, worry more that she would become governor.

00:02:30.660 Abrams is running well behind Governor Brian Kemp, and Abrams' desperation is no better expressed than having to bring in a big celebrity like Oprah to bail her out, or at least try.

00:02:43.720 You may remember Stacey Abrams refused to concede her losing race against Kemp four years ago.

00:02:50.380 She admits that he won, but implies that it was stolen.

00:02:53.540 Abrams has been and still is, that's right, one of those election deniers the Marxist left is supposed to despise so much.

00:03:02.520 She's not alone.

00:03:03.600 There are tens of millions of Americans who believe Donald Trump was cheated out of the presidency in the election of 2020,

00:03:09.920 with one of the smallest margins of victory in history.

00:03:13.680 Our guest today is Mark Bencham.

00:03:16.000 He's running for Secretary of State in Arizona.

00:03:18.780 And Mark, it's great to have you with us here on The Great America Show.

00:03:22.160 Mark has an impressive background.

00:03:24.860 You should know he was a police officer and first responder, businessman, and rancher.

00:03:29.580 He's a stalwart in the Republican Party, very important to the prospects for the GOP in Arizona this year,

00:03:36.120 and for reform of the state's election system.

00:03:39.280 Mark, I want to start with the headline from a recent New York Times article, quote,

00:03:44.060 Mark Bencham says Biden didn't win in 2020, and he has big plans for elections in Arizona.

00:03:50.680 Why do you say Biden didn't win in 2020, and what are your big plans?

00:03:57.480 Thank you for having me on your show.

00:03:59.480 Well, it's great to have you with us, and we wish you the very best of luck as Election Day approaches.

00:04:06.480 Mark, let's start with Biden didn't win in 2020.

00:04:10.180 Now, as you know, in left-wing urban areas, particularly in the east, that is heresy.

00:04:19.060 I mean, it's blasphemy to say that this president didn't win in 2020.

00:04:24.300 What are we to think, and what do you think?

00:04:27.060 Well, I think it's interesting that there are a number of polls out there that range from 63% to 67% of Americans

00:04:34.960 did not believe that we had a fair and successful election in 2020,

00:04:40.720 and that's something that the last has failed to come to grips with.

00:04:45.220 You know, they talk about the big lie.

00:04:46.680 The big lie goes all the way back to 2016, when Eric, sleeping with the enemy Swalwell, Kamala Harris,

00:04:55.840 Amy Klobuchar, in a hearing in Congress, berated the election in 2016,

00:05:03.500 that it wasn't secure, it wasn't free, it wasn't fair, that there were all kinds of problems.

00:05:08.560 But then four years later, with nothing changing in the election systems, suddenly everything is perfect.

00:05:17.680 It's not even credible.

00:05:19.260 So for the New York Times, actually, there's three parts to that story.

00:05:23.500 The fact that they used my name for the folks in Arizona, that ended up raising me campaign funds.

00:05:30.660 Thank you very much, New York Times.

00:05:32.140 Keep up the good work.

00:05:33.140 When it comes to the question of did Joe Biden win, okay, we're looking, my good friend, Captain Seth Keschel,

00:05:44.100 who is a statistical analyst amongst many, he's probably one of the most credible,

00:05:50.380 he's telling me, look, between voting irregularities and just good old-fashioned blocking and tackling cheating

00:05:55.920 of having fictitious people on the voter rolls, Joe Biden didn't win.

00:06:01.480 He might have had as many as 340,000 extra votes, but if you go into the system

00:06:07.580 and you start looking at all of the shenanigans in the background,

00:06:11.120 that's why I'm deaf against black box ballot tabulation equipment.

00:06:16.180 I believe in paper ballots hand counting, and I don't buy this argument,

00:06:19.960 well, you can't do it within 24 hours.

00:06:21.920 Well, France does, and they count a heck of a lot more ballots than we do.

00:06:25.320 So I think that there's so many people out there that really question the result that for the New York Times to say that I'm just that guy,

00:06:35.020 well, there's a lot of folks out there, including people who are members of the Democrat Party,

00:06:41.420 and I would call them, you know, moderate Democrats, just like the Republican Party has moderate Republicans.

00:06:46.200 I would say that there are a lot of Democrats out there who question the result.

00:06:50.260 In fact, so much so that, you know, the folks in Georgia, you've got Democrats in Georgia that are suing them over elections,

00:06:56.820 so apparently things were not perfect.

00:06:59.120 You've got Republicans and Democrats that are engaged in the same litigation behaviors.

00:07:04.520 And Pennsylvania, for example, Fulton County in Pennsylvania, is suing Dominion over issues with their participation,

00:07:16.860 their machines in the election of 2020.

00:07:20.760 And think about it.

00:07:21.620 It's taken almost two years for them to come to that judgment.

00:07:25.700 It is really a remarkable thing to me, Mark, how there can be so little transparency in our elections.

00:07:36.140 I talk with secretaries of state.

00:07:38.160 I talk with others who simply don't know what is happening with those black boxes, as you term them.

00:07:46.980 They don't really have knowledge.

00:07:48.760 County clerks don't seem to have the knowledge of what is in those boxes and how what is in those boxes counts votes.

00:07:56.720 As someone said to me the other day, he doesn't understand why there should be any computational, you know,

00:08:05.920 abracadabra about this because casinos count billions of dollars every day.

00:08:13.880 It's a simple calculation.

00:08:16.020 You count votes, you count money.

00:08:18.760 Why should there be any sort of extraordinary, esoteric, and arcane, and little understood calculation in those voting machines

00:08:28.720 that seemingly no one in authority, almost no one in authority in any part of the country really knows what's happening?

00:08:35.060 Lou, that is exactly the crux of the problem, that you have a vendor that has a higher level of authority over the elections

00:08:44.500 than the elected officials, the representatives of the people who are charged with responsibility of election oversight.

00:08:52.020 I think it's just incomprehensible to me that you would have a vendor that does not have open source software

00:08:58.320 that you can inspect and make sure that there are no executable files, no nefarious code anywhere in that system.

00:09:04.700 Yet, that is the very fig leaf that the calculation companies stand behind.

00:09:14.160 Now, I agree with you.

00:09:15.880 What we're doing is we're counting dots.

00:09:18.620 It's a math problem, and it's a simple count problem.

00:09:21.800 There is no need for a calculation.

00:09:23.280 But that's been some of the source of my suspicion for quite some time.

00:09:27.720 And understand, as a legislator, I'm stepping out of the legislative branch now,

00:09:32.560 have served Arizona for eight years in the House of Representatives, and moving into the executive branch.

00:09:37.040 So I have a very keen appreciation of what the legislature is supposed to do.

00:09:42.200 I was hired by the taxpayers to ask questions, to be a truth seeker.

00:09:47.940 And now, suddenly, because I found evidence, and sometimes the evidence pans out, sometimes it's not.

00:09:55.980 But we've delivered so much evidence to our attorney general that there are unexplainable irregularities,

00:10:02.760 to the point where I made a motion that we set aside the Maricopa County election.

00:10:07.920 Now, of course, people, they don't like that because, well, you're going to disenfranchise people.

00:10:11.660 Well, what if there's code in there that we can't verify, and that code flips votes?

00:10:19.600 We don't know.

00:10:21.300 So I agree with you.

00:10:23.920 There are so many people out there who are supposed to be in charge of elections that don't actually know what is in the code.

00:10:31.020 That's one of the reasons why Carrie Lake and I filed suit in U.S. District Court to block the use of the equipment

00:10:36.760 until such time as we are able to inspect the code and certify that it is clean.

00:10:40.720 And if the companies are not willing to do that, then I'm fine with prohibiting their use and going to hand count of paper ballots,

00:10:48.380 and we begin to start on Election Day, and we don't stop until we're done.

00:10:52.980 How long do you think it would take doing paper ballots if you started on Election Day?

00:10:58.560 Well, it's a throughput question.

00:11:00.660 I'm a Six Sigma process engineer, so I tend to look at things in a map format.

00:11:05.220 If you've got a set number of ballots, a set number of races, if you design the ballot counting system properly,

00:11:14.020 which is basically a set of tables with people counting individual races so that you can have rapid throughput,

00:11:20.820 then you just need to identify the number of people that you hire.

00:11:24.320 Now, for the millions of dollars that they're paying for this ballot tabulation equipment,

00:11:31.740 we could be hiring taxpayers at a decent rate, $20 an hour, paid volunteers, if you will, for a day.

00:11:39.980 Come in and count ballots.

00:11:41.400 Come in and do a shift for three or four hours, and then you start cycling people through.

00:11:45.740 It's a simple throughput problem.

00:11:47.540 So can we do it in 24 hours?

00:11:48.860 Yeah, I do believe we can, especially if we begin counting early ballots first thing in the morning.

00:11:54.700 And then, of course, you don't stop counting.

00:11:56.800 None of this, oh, we're going to take a break between midnight and 2.

00:11:59.840 You don't stop counting until you're done.

00:12:02.520 Right.

00:12:03.240 And you lock the door once the ballots are reportedly all there,

00:12:07.620 because if they're not there by a specific time, technically, there are votes outside of the law.

00:12:14.140 And that's one of the things that the Secretary of State needs to have a watchful eye on.

00:12:18.860 Well, what you say makes great sense.

00:12:21.840 And the fact that our election system doesn't make great sense, not just in Arizona, but across the country,

00:12:27.860 whether it's Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, the list goes on.

00:12:34.540 And lots of places that aren't under scrutiny right now, but the battleground states in particular,

00:12:40.200 these are unnecessary questions that we, many of us, if not most of us, have about the election of 2020.

00:12:46.580 There are too many anomalies, too many irregularities, too much questionable conduct in full view of television cameras during the 2020 election.

00:12:56.840 It's remarkable.

00:12:58.660 And we know that, for example, the Attorney General did not speak truth when he said,

00:13:04.140 we have looked at the election, and this was about four weeks after that election.

00:13:09.460 And William Barr said, we found no significant evidence of electoral fraud, which is preposterous, because it was too soon.

00:13:20.300 That's actually a pretty pathetic statement.

00:13:22.620 When you don't look, of course you're not going to find anything.

00:13:26.180 Right.

00:13:26.440 But we've got two different things that are at work here.

00:13:29.220 One is the systems and the policies around those systems, and the other is the people.

00:13:36.680 So, for example, the fellow that I'm running against here in Arizona, I mean, the Arizona Supreme Court has rebuked Adrian Fontes for instructing voters to, quote,

00:13:45.800 cross off ballot mistakes.

00:13:47.760 These are instructions that are not in law.

00:13:51.940 And the difference between the Secretary of State and a lawmaker is you just follow the law.

00:13:59.040 Unfortunately, he was the Maricopa County reporter for 2020.

00:14:04.680 And this guy, this is the same guy that the Arizona Republic's writers, Abe Kwok, not exactly a conservative writer.

00:14:14.920 In fact, that paper has gone pretty far left.

00:14:17.740 On September 13th, he wrote, Adrian Fontes had some, quote, dramatically bad moments during his term where he was recklessly and irresponsibly deserving of the boot.

00:14:30.800 In other words, the taxpayers fired him when they replaced him with Republican Stephen Richard.

00:14:36.240 But even more so, you've got another writer by the name of Lori Roberts, who's, she really hates me.

00:14:43.300 But she comes out and says, Fontes is making up election law as he is going along.

00:14:49.840 It's a frightening thought that the guy in charge of elections can do as he pleases as long as there's no prohibition in the law.

00:14:56.760 So what you're hearing here now is the third part of this problem.

00:15:02.260 You've got process, you've got equipment, then you've got people.

00:15:04.700 Adrian Fontes has been lawless for his entire time in public service.

00:15:10.880 I mean, this is a guy who actually represented individuals from the cartels who were involved in the Fast and Furious gun running episode.

00:15:20.940 So, I mean, how do you reconcile that with somebody who is going to be the senior elections official in the state of Arizona overseeing 15 counties if he can't even get one county right?

00:15:32.960 I have a hard time reconciling that.

00:15:37.520 Well, Maricopa County has a history of trouble with the law and propriety and transparency when it comes to elections, don't they?

00:15:52.580 They have their struggles.

00:15:53.580 So, I'm trying to be kind.

00:15:57.660 I understand.

00:15:59.140 But it's really important in a state like Arizona for everyone to get a sense, and I love what you're doing, talking about transparency, talking about following the law.

00:16:10.660 Those two initiatives alone should resolve most of the uncertainties, the questions, and the charges in our election system.

00:16:24.960 Why not just simply follow the law?

00:16:28.520 Why not be transparent about it all and be done with it?

00:16:32.340 Instead, we've got an electoral system nationally where three electronic voting firms, they are Dominion, they are Hart, ES&S, they count 92% of the votes in the election as of 2020.

00:16:51.760 That's remarkable, and nobody knows what's going on.

00:16:54.980 And why are these companies all private, not public?

00:16:57.440 And why in the world I have so many secretaries of state, and by the way, this makes me less than popular with a number of those electronic voting companies because I'm asking for transparency, total transparency, and if they can't deliver it, let's get rid of the voting, those electronic voting machines.

00:17:17.500 It doesn't make sense for the American people to put up with us.

00:17:20.360 Yeah, I guess going back to the New York Times comment about I have big plans.

00:17:25.880 Well, the big plan is just follow the law.

00:17:29.200 If folks want to go out to votefincham.com, they can see every interview that I've ever done.

00:17:33.820 I've been consistent in my message.

00:17:36.020 And perhaps that's one of the reasons that from November 30th on of 2020, somehow I've been elevated to the position of champion for voters, I guess,

00:17:46.580 just because I've dared to ask questions that the establishment, both Republican and Democrat, they don't want me to ask those questions because they don't have answers for them.

00:17:56.840 I agree with you.

00:17:58.120 When you've got electronic voting equipment that has closed code, but they're not, well, it's proprietary.

00:18:06.800 Really?

00:18:07.340 All you're doing is counting bubbles.

00:18:09.420 If there's anything else in that, why is it there?

00:18:13.140 And so far we haven't gotten an answer to that question, and you make a very good point, Lou.

00:18:18.460 If you've got elections officials who are supposed to be minding the store, if you will, that don't even understand or know about what's in the code,

00:18:28.720 that means you have a private concern with a greater level of authority over elections than the people who are supposed to be safeguarding the process for the people.

00:18:39.700 Elections belong to the people.

00:18:40.860 They don't belong to the government.

00:18:41.700 We cannot lose sight of that fact, and they are a system that is people-dependent.

00:18:48.140 But if you've got machines that everybody's, and I know one of the reasons, because it's easy.

00:18:56.700 It's the easy thing to do.

00:18:58.420 Instead of organizing people to count ballots and use paper ballots, it's the easy thing to do.

00:19:04.320 Well, we can just feed them into a machine, it's going to count everything, and it's going to spit out a result at the end.

00:19:09.620 Well, that's not worked out so well for us.

00:19:11.180 In fact, I'll hold up the case of Tina Peters, a very good friend of mine, running for Secretary of State in the state of Colorado.

00:19:17.760 She knew something was wrong because she was leading by 15 points.

00:19:21.580 She lost by 15 points.

00:19:23.160 Okay, that's a 30-point swing.

00:19:25.460 Statistically, that's just not possible.

00:19:27.200 So, she went to El Paso County.

00:19:30.700 Somebody kind of gave her a little bit of a tip that you might want to take a look at the ballots there.

00:19:35.440 And she posted, I think it was $285,000 bond.

00:19:38.840 They went through and they compared the paper ballot.

00:19:42.540 They went through and counted the actual paper ballots against the tabulation equipment.

00:19:48.460 That would be Dominion.

00:19:50.060 They found a 62% error rate.

00:19:52.620 Now, under federal law, the acceptable error rate is 0.000026%.

00:20:00.900 62% in a Secretary of State race in just one county of Colorado.

00:20:09.140 Now, that tells me, between that and all of the information that we had in our lawsuit here in Arizona, the U.S. District Court case, that's enough for us to say no mas.

00:20:21.000 We've got to go back.

00:20:22.580 First of all, we've got to reset the world and go to hand counting of paper ballots.

00:20:27.820 Now, if somebody can come up with a simple tabulation piece of equipment, like the kind of, they call it a dumb scanner.

00:20:35.620 It's the kind of scanner that they count ACT and SAT scores with, you know, the little bubble sheets.

00:20:42.420 Right.

00:20:43.000 That's all we need.

00:20:44.140 We don't need to have this massive architecture to transmit data.

00:20:49.420 Okay, what data?

00:20:51.880 So, let's go to Tina Peters.

00:20:54.580 So, she won the election, and everything is happiness, joy, little rabbits and rainbows around that, right?

00:21:04.860 No, she lost the election.

00:21:06.840 How could she lose an election when she found all those votes?

00:21:11.120 Well, she had to challenge the election in El Paso County.

00:21:15.980 And in doing that, that's where she found a 62% error rate.

00:21:19.520 Now, it's my understanding, I don't know for sure whether or not that will trigger a statewide paper ballot comparison for all of the counties.

00:21:30.120 I haven't talked to Tina in several days.

00:21:33.100 But you can tell that she's over the target because the legal apparatus, the Secretary of State there, the Attorney General, the courts are going after.

00:21:43.500 This gold star mom, her son is a Navy SEAL that died on duty, a gold star mom who just wanted to make sure that she was doing her job.

00:21:55.700 Originally, as the Mesa County clerk, she knew something was wrong with the so-called trusted build that Jenna Griswold wanted to do for the entire state.

00:22:07.460 So she had a forensic image made of the equipment in her office, Dominion Equipment.

00:22:12.800 They came in, they did the build.

00:22:14.380 After they were done, she had another forensic image done.

00:22:17.160 And lo and behold, discovered that in conflict with 52 CFR 20701, which is the law, the federal law that requires document retention,

00:22:27.660 they destroyed all of the election records that Tina was required to keep and curate for 22 months.

00:22:39.620 Who did that?

00:22:41.640 The Secretary of State of the state of Colorado.

00:22:44.740 And is that person in jail today?

00:22:47.720 No.

00:22:48.220 And by the way, each one of those records is a separate federal crime that carries a one year in jail, one year in prison, and a $1,000 fine.

00:22:59.620 Every one of those records is a unique instance.

00:23:02.700 So why isn't that person in jail?

00:23:04.600 Well, first of all, we have an attorney general in the United States who is more interested in pursuing parents who stand up for their rights in public school board meetings or going after this.

00:23:21.680 Apparently, they're just scared to death of people like me because we ask questions.

00:23:25.660 They're busy going after Donald Trump and Roger Stone and Steve Bannon.

00:23:29.820 I mean, they're not engaged in any law enforcement.

00:23:35.880 They're actually quite lawless.

00:23:38.160 I find these days the FBI is utterly disgusting.

00:23:42.480 Many of the agents that are carrying out some of these search warrants, they should be saying, I can't do this.

00:23:47.660 I'm going to have to quit.

00:23:49.520 Well, they should be.

00:23:51.740 Their bosses should be.

00:23:53.020 But the FBI and the Department of Justice, let's be straightforward here, are the most corrupt elements of a corrupt federal government.

00:24:02.320 People think that's hyperbole.

00:24:05.160 But my audience understands where I'm coming from.

00:24:10.680 This is right now a government that is Marxist-dominated.

00:24:15.240 It is – this is a puppet president who is being led by the Marxist Dems and a Democrat party led by the Dems as well.

00:24:25.400 There is – this is a time for people to talk absolutely straight about what's going on.

00:24:30.180 And I want to, by the way, say something here.

00:24:33.500 Dominion is one of those companies that is suing Fox.

00:24:39.980 I have been a witness in that case, and I harbor absolutely no ill will toward Dominion, and I don't know if they've cheated or not.

00:24:50.540 But I do know people who I respect who say that they have.

00:24:54.740 And there has to be a public accounting for all of this.

00:24:59.940 This is not a matter for a debate or a court decision.

00:25:03.560 We've left it up to district court judges, state court judges, and, yes, we did get to the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court, and we watched them, again, not have standing.

00:25:15.300 I love these legal terms for I don't want to get involved, and that's what it really means.

00:25:21.480 That's exactly it.

00:25:22.540 And the U.S. Supreme Court did the same thing in 2020, where they had an opportunity to assure that all of the issues were resolved and that the interest of the voting public was preserved.

00:25:36.900 Everyone wants to talk about voter rights, except when it comes to all voter rights.

00:25:43.460 No one wants to give the American people at large voter rights.

00:25:50.080 Otherwise, they would have a more, I think, more of a demand than imaginable for more transparency, for following the law and making certain that the attorney general, as you said, in this case, Merrick Garland.

00:26:04.240 But before him, Bill Barr, he was a disaster, and we know for a fact he changed history in October in the final presidential debate when Joe Biden, he said and acknowledged that he lied.

00:26:21.020 He lied about Hunter Biden, his son's laptop, and didn't say a word.

00:26:28.300 But meanwhile, had FBI agents telling news organizations and big tech and social media, don't you touch that story, broken by the New York Post, because it's Russian disinformation.

00:26:39.940 51 intel veterans signed a letter to that effect, and they knew that it was an absolute fraud.

00:26:48.420 Yeah, it's pretty pathetic.

00:26:50.040 All designed to protect Joe Biden.

00:26:52.740 Well, it's designed to protect the status quo, Lou.

00:26:55.140 No, this was very specific, to protect Joe Biden.

00:27:02.580 They changed the outcome of the 2020 election in that one instance.

00:27:08.420 Subsequent polling showed that 13% of people who voted for Joe Biden would have changed their votes had they known the truth about the laptop.

00:27:18.200 Now, the status quo, the status quo refers, I assume, to an establishment that is bipartisan.

00:27:26.400 This is not bipartisan.

00:27:28.140 This is not simple economics and the wealthy and the globalists.

00:27:34.200 This is the Democrat.

00:27:35.480 No, but this is the Democrat Party.

00:27:39.100 This is about Democrats.

00:27:41.960 Their leadership, their control of this government.

00:27:45.980 Think about this.

00:27:46.700 They've been in control of our entire federal government for almost two years, and the result has been breathtaking, devastating corruption.

00:27:57.520 In instance after instance, whether it's in the Justice Department, the judiciary, you name it, there isn't a single policy enunciated and put into place by Joe Biden.

00:28:08.060 And I don't know how anybody could vote Democrat ever again.

00:28:12.060 This man is absolutely a puppet of the Marxist Dems and absolutely trying to send this country to hell in a handbasket.

00:28:23.580 Well, the point that I was trying to make about the status quo is Joe Biden was installed to protect the status quo.

00:28:30.840 They don't want to see any change.

00:28:32.440 They want to see everything just the way it is, because that's how they're able to build a country just like Venezuela.

00:28:39.360 You know, one of the things that Rush Limbaugh said a number of times, in fact, it really made an imprint on me.

00:28:45.900 Every time somebody would say, well, the failed state of Venezuela, and he's like, no, no, stop a second.

00:28:50.780 Venezuela is socialism operating exactly as it was designed to operate.

00:28:56.460 And that's your point is well taken on the whole Marxist thing.

00:29:00.660 I mean, that's why there are so many Democrats who are now fleeing the Democrat Party and becoming independents.

00:29:06.200 That's why we have so many independents in the state of Arizona.

00:29:08.740 Fully a third of the voters in Arizona classify themselves either as party not declared or independent.

00:29:16.320 That means that voting bloc carries an incredible amount of power.

00:29:20.320 Well, you should be feeling very good about that, because we are looking at independents in poll after poll,

00:29:28.260 those that I respect, and I'm talking about the McLaughlin poll, I'm talking about the Trafalgar group.

00:29:39.040 Highly respected and accurate polls, a history of it.

00:29:43.960 We know President Trump won 38% of the Hispanic vote in 2016.

00:29:49.000 We know more Hispanics are pouring into the Republican Party for this midterm election,

00:29:54.340 because they're no different than anyone.

00:29:56.920 There's no monolithic group in this country.

00:29:59.320 You can argue that the black voting bloc is a solid bloc, and it has been.

00:30:05.580 But we are seeing that absolutely dissolve in the face of these destructive policies of the Marxist Dems in the Democrat Party.

00:30:15.280 There's no place for a moderate in the Democratic Party.

00:30:18.660 You show me a moderate Dem, and I'll show you somebody who really should be voting Republican every time.

00:30:24.240 There's no room for them.

00:30:25.540 Yeah, your point's well taken.

00:30:27.600 I think, you know, the whole mission of the Marxist dialectic is deconstruction of the family.

00:30:33.620 Create chaos.

00:30:36.660 Create that uncertainty.

00:30:40.820 Pull the families apart so that the state ultimately is in control.

00:30:44.260 And that's what they're attempting to do.

00:30:46.140 Right now, we are facing an existential threat to the election system in the state of Arizona, and I think more broadly to the United States.

00:30:55.380 We need to elect secretaries of state who are focused on one singular mission, and that is making everybody follow the law.

00:31:02.380 Just follow the law.

00:31:04.240 So if people want to know more about me, they can go to votefincham.com.

00:31:08.760 That's V-O-T-E-F-I-N-C-H-E, like Edward, M, like Mark, dot com.

00:31:14.240 They can click on the news tab, and if you'll be so kind as to give me the link to this show, once it has aired, I'll be happy to post it out on our website.

00:31:23.440 Because I really do want to be the most transparent candidate, actually transparent nominee, in the state of Arizona for any office.

00:31:31.780 I want people to know full well what they're getting when they vote for Mark Fincham.

00:31:36.900 Well, that's transparency at its best, and we salute you for that.

00:31:41.900 It's one of the reasons that we believe you're the right man for the job in the great state of Arizona.

00:31:47.660 And I would urge Republicans, Democrats, independents to stand up and vote your real interest, which is to preserve our rights as a constitutional republic, our security, including that border with Mexico,

00:32:06.120 and get rid of the people who think that 100,000 overdose deaths from fentanyl are an acceptable level of collateral damage in a democracy like ours.

00:32:19.060 It's time for change.

00:32:22.520 I'm sorry, go ahead, you get the last word.

00:32:24.920 That's pouring across our border, Lou, and I'm glad that you brought that up.

00:32:28.800 In Arizona, the Secretary of State is the de facto lieutenant governor.

00:32:33.380 Kerry Lake, who is the gubernatorial candidate for the Republican Party, and I both are in absolute agreement, that is another threat to the youth of our state.

00:32:45.380 In fact, that is the thing that makes every state a border state, because this poison is flowing into their schools, onto their streets, into their homes.

00:32:55.280 It is now the number one cause of death amongst young adults.

00:32:58.900 That is absolutely unacceptable, and those deaths are on the hands of Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:33:06.300 They are lying to the American people when they tell us we have a secure border.

00:33:11.620 The cartels have operational control of our southern borders.

00:33:16.960 Why are we hiring 87,000 IRS agents when we need to have 87,000 Border Patrol agents?

00:33:23.380 Unacceptable performance, and, you know, if people want to make sure that we secure our election system, especially here in Arizona, you know, Adrian Fontes has got several million dollars to work with.

00:33:36.360 I don't.

00:33:38.600 We've got a lot of donor fatigue, but I would ask folks, you know, go to my website, and if you would, please push the button to make a donation.

00:33:45.660 Every dollar, we are very, very frugal when it comes to spending, but we're putting our money in the right places.

00:33:50.860 So, thank you very much, Lou.

00:33:53.380 It's been a pleasure talking to you.

00:33:54.960 I appreciate all that you do in getting real news out and fighting back against the fake news cartel.

00:34:01.360 Mark, thanks so much.

00:34:02.480 Enjoyed talking with you and look forward to talking to you in the weeks ahead as we approach Election Day.

00:34:08.820 Mark Fincham, running for Secretary of State of the great state of Arizona.

00:34:14.220 Thanks so much.

00:34:15.140 God bless you.

00:34:15.680 Mark, thanks for being with us, and good luck in your campaign for Secretary of State in Arizona, a great American.

00:34:23.500 And thank you, everybody, for being with us.

00:34:25.700 Here tomorrow, our guest is Mike Davis.

00:34:27.700 He worked for Senator Chuck Grassley as Chief Counsel for Nominations.

00:34:31.720 He founded and leads the Article III Project.

00:34:34.960 We'll be talking about what in the world is going on with the Supreme Court and more.

00:34:40.200 Please join us here tomorrow.

00:34:41.400 Until then, God bless you, and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - October 23, 2022

THE ELECTION SYSTEM IN ARIZONA FACES AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT SAYS MARK FINCHEM, AZ STATE REP

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