The Great America Show - THE END GOAL FOR THE J6 COMMITTEE IS TO INDICT DONALD TRUMP SAYS LEE SMITH

00:00:00.200 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is the Great America Show. Welcome to the show, and great to have you with us in these stirring times we Americans live in.

00:00:10.560 How times have changed and are changing still. We were once the envy of the world, and now I'm not so sure.

00:00:18.360 We've been faced with lots of fundamental choices over the past almost half century, and our leaders have often made poor choices.

00:00:26.060 Choices that made our nation poorer, and of course you and I can't escape our own responsibility in choosing such leaders over the decades.

00:00:35.660 And tolerating ineptitude and unprincipled leadership in the White House.

00:00:40.800 Two leaders stand out for their clarity of American values and vision and concrete achievements in the national interest.

00:00:48.920 President Ronald Reagan and President Donald Trump.

00:00:51.900 And while they both are historic figures and became heroes in the Republican Party, they both also excited the vicious enmity of the Democrat Party.

00:01:02.660 Both leaders were assailed and assaulted President Reagan by attempted assassination,

00:01:08.960 and President Trump by relentless political persecution on the part of the Marxist left and the deep state that goes on to this very day.

00:01:17.660 Our guest today is Lee Smith, columnist, investigative reporter, best-selling author.

00:01:24.540 Lee wrote the book, The Plot to Overthrow the President, which was the basis of the documentary of the same title.

00:01:31.220 Lee's latest book is The Permanent Coup, How Enemies, Foreign and Domestic, Targeted the American President.

00:01:38.640 I highly recommend both books to you.

00:01:41.200 Lee Smith, it is great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.

00:01:45.680 Welcome, my friend.

00:01:46.520 Lou Dobbs, thank you for inviting me back once again.

00:01:50.780 I'm glad I haven't worn out my welcome yet.

00:01:52.780 So thank you very much for bringing me on today.

00:01:56.200 So let me start with January 6th.

00:01:59.920 I know this is unusually timely for me, but the January 6th committee, 0.99

00:02:05.820 I cannot believe that these fools are going ahead with this sham, this charade, this farce. 0.99

00:02:14.420 But they don't realize yet, you know, they're the clowns centering in the circus. 1.00

00:02:20.380 I really think that's the issue here, a lack of self-knowledge.

00:02:25.480 What do you think?

00:02:26.900 Well, I mean, we're going to see what this circus looks like with their first, you know, first live hearings on Thursday.

00:02:36.420 And I have to say, I'm a little concerned about it.

00:02:40.520 I was speaking recently with our colleague and friend, the great Julie Kelly, whose work covering January 6th and his aftermath is absolutely invaluable.

00:02:50.420 And in our discussion, we came up with a very dark scenario.

00:02:57.420 And I think it's not unlikely that the ultimate aim here is for the January 6th committee to partner with Biden's fanatical DOJ and to move toward arresting Donald Trump.

00:03:10.560 And, you know, I think that that's where they want to go.

00:03:15.080 I mean, you know, they they they they tried to charge him with obstruction during the you know, during the Mueller charade.

00:03:22.880 They they impeached him.

00:03:24.560 They are they are determined to punish not only Donald Trump, but they are determined to punish the you know, that anyone who didn't vote for Joe Biden.

00:03:36.900 And that's what this will result in. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm actually concerned about that.

00:03:42.080 So while they are while everyone from Adam Schiff to Liz Cheney are vicious, sinister buffoons, they can do a lot of damage.

00:03:51.700 And I think their their plan is to do a lot of damage and it's to move.

00:03:56.140 You know, I mean, what they did to Peter Navarro, I mean, they put Peter Navarro in handcuffs.

00:04:00.200 I mean, what happens? And leg irons. Right.

00:04:03.220 Right. Leg irons. Right. What happens if they move to do the same to the former president of the United States?

00:04:10.040 But I think that's where I think that's where they would like it to go.

00:04:15.180 They would like that. That's very disturbing, obviously.

00:04:18.960 Yeah. To everyone and certainly this audience.

00:04:21.580 It's it's it's you know, it's just possible that this could happen because everything that has been impossible has happened.

00:04:32.800 So I'm with you considering this and with Julie considering this, I have to take it very seriously.

00:04:39.700 I I I hope that they don't go that far, because if they go that far, the the country will be in crisis immediately.

00:04:51.600 I agree. And I don't think that that crisis is one that would certainly benefit the Marxist Dems who are leading the Democrat Party.

00:05:03.640 As mad as these people are, as venal as these people are, they may have lost complete contact with their own vulnerability, their own limitations.

00:05:16.320 What do you think?

00:05:18.100 Oh, yeah. I mean, I think they're lunatics. 1.00

00:05:20.600 By which I mean that they're not just crazy, but that there really is something that happens in Washington. 0.99

00:05:28.760 They're all looking at each other. They're all speaking to each other.

00:05:31.980 They hear from the people. They hear from their donors.

00:05:35.640 They hear from like minded people.

00:05:37.580 And they have no sense of of how this will be received outside of their bubble.

00:05:45.180 But the other possibility, of course, is that they're they're they're planning to incite troubles inside the country.

00:05:52.020 I tend to think it's the first. I think that a lot of their grand schemes and a lot of their grand plans, for instance, you know, their climate change policies.

00:06:01.280 I think they're incapable of looking very far down the road and seeing how this will, you know, trying to game this out.

00:06:08.020 But I mean, I mean, if you look again at what they tried to do with Mueller, I mean, the big move was to move to an obstruction charge.

00:06:16.080 Once they found there was no room to, you know, there was no evidence of Russian collusion or, of course, conspiracy with the Russian Federation.

00:06:24.060 That would have been something like the charge they moved to obstruction.

00:06:27.920 And this is how a lot of January 6th defendants right now are being charged, obstruction of an official proceeding.

00:06:35.640 And I again, I think it's possible this is a terrible scenario, but I think it's possible that's what they're going to do to Donald Trump.

00:06:42.280 There is this obstruction, this obstruction charge hanging out there and they want to hang it on him for January 6th.

00:06:49.700 And they're going to tie him up with the with the Proud Boys and with the Oath Keepers.

00:06:55.040 You saw what happened recently that the leader of the Proud Boys, I believe the name is Enrique Enrique Terrio.

00:07:02.080 He was charged and a number of Proud Boys were charged with seditious conspiracy, which is absolutely nuts.

00:07:08.020 But again, I think that this is this is a possibility and it's extremely worrisome.

00:07:17.780 And and there you go. This is where these people have led us.

00:07:21.560 This is where they've led the country.

00:07:25.080 Well, you know what is immediately disturbing as we think about this considered and I haven't considered it before this.

00:07:32.980 But the Republican Party leadership is so weak, there wouldn't be a response from them.

00:07:40.320 That is it is the Democrats were gaming this out, strategizing.

00:07:46.100 I'm sure that was that played very large in their considerations.

00:07:51.020 And what do you think? I don't know what the Republican Party response would be.

00:07:57.800 What are your thoughts?

00:07:58.960 I I think they would have to respond to this.

00:08:04.080 Clearly, what's happened since January 6th is the Republican Party, aside from a few aside from a few members like Marjorie Taylor Greene, God bless her,

00:08:13.200 have have sat in the background because I imagine leadership's position is this.

00:08:17.360 It's like, hey, let's show Biden and the Dems run America into the ground and come November 20, 22.

00:08:24.180 Independents will have no choice but to lean our way in the elections.

00:08:28.260 The important thing is, everyone, keep your heads down.

00:08:31.060 Don't make a lot of noise.

00:08:32.620 And that's been especially true of January 6th.

00:08:34.980 Don't say anything about January 6th.

00:08:37.920 So what if they're letting our base get rolled up?

00:08:41.060 So what if the DOJ, Merrick Garland is redefining Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray and DHS are redefining our base as domestic terrorists?

00:08:52.560 Never mind. Let it go.

00:08:53.900 We'll see what happens on November, you know, November 2022.

00:08:58.620 I think if they were to make a move against, you know, against the former president of the United States, the still leader of the Republican Party, I would imagine that would I would have to force the hands of some of them.

00:09:10.240 They would they would have to get out there and make some noise at that point.

00:09:13.260 I imagine. I hope.

00:09:17.520 Including Mitch McConnell?

00:09:22.120 Probably. I don't know.

00:09:23.980 That's a very good question.

00:09:25.940 I'm not sure if he's one of them.

00:09:28.360 Kevin McCarthy?

00:09:29.360 I think I don't you know, I don't I don't know either of them personally well enough to know how they would think about these things.

00:09:40.400 But it strikes me that McCarthy would would would would have to speak out.

00:09:46.260 Yeah, well, speaking wouldn't do much, would it?

00:09:48.960 You're right.

00:09:49.480 I mean, if if this was to be right, just the response to this speaking out, if they're right, it's if they were to arrest the president of the United States, Donald J.

00:10:01.780 Trump. Right.

00:10:02.760 And the best we heard from the Republican Party was rhetoric and I'm sure passionate rhetoric, it would be a complete and history would be rewritten.

00:10:16.040 Yeah, because without leaders and by the way, the Republican Party has no leaders.

00:10:22.360 I've mentioned two of the people who have leadership roles, but they're not leaders.

00:10:26.960 Agreed.

00:10:27.660 And there is only one leader.

00:10:29.660 And that is Donald J.

00:10:31.260 Trump.

00:10:31.880 Right.

00:10:32.360 It's it is a party bereft of courage, principle, vision, because Donald Trump is the man.

00:10:43.320 And and by the way, there was the same situation before he arrived on the scene.

00:10:47.720 And in 2015 to to run for president of the United States, the party is no bigger, no better.

00:10:55.120 I mean, I'm listening to Paul Ryan the other day, Lee.

00:10:58.060 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:58.420 My Lord, what a vacuous, innocuous, awful, whining, wussy, wimp. 0.99

00:11:08.860 And he constitutes the intellectual firepower of the Republican establishment. 0.99

00:11:16.600 Yeah.

00:11:16.840 There's not much there.

00:11:17.860 Do you remember when they were calling him a wonk on the budget?

00:11:21.380 A wonk.

00:11:22.600 That was the big the man doesn't have the intellect to wonk, you know, a coloring book.

00:11:29.880 Right.

00:11:30.480 It is absurd.

00:11:31.700 What he knows about the budget could be is in a thimble somewhere.

00:11:36.220 Right.

00:11:37.560 I think the essential point is is the one you made about wonk who what American mothers raise 0.75

00:11:44.520 their children to be wonks.

00:11:46.160 Yeah.

00:11:46.580 Right.

00:11:46.880 What what kind of a role is that?

00:11:48.720 What kind of a life is that?

00:11:49.980 No, we need leaders.

00:11:51.220 That's what America is supposed to breed everywhere from the front from the from the football field 1.00

00:11:57.780 to debate clubs and elsewhere.

00:12:00.880 That's what the Republican Party needs.

00:12:02.560 That's what America needs.

00:12:03.640 And as you say, this is a party.

00:12:05.600 This is a country bereft of leadership.

00:12:08.420 The people who are leading the Democratic Party are not leading the country.

00:12:12.760 They're leading a very poisonous faction, political faction.

00:12:16.380 And let's let's turn to that, if we may, the leaders of the Democrat, the Marxist Democrat

00:12:24.660 Party.

00:12:25.380 Let's start with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:12:28.000 I don't think I've ever seen two weaker, less knowledgeable, less talented politicians

00:12:36.420 in any serious role whatsoever in any serious job, let alone the top two jobs in the federal

00:12:44.760 government.

00:12:45.440 Your thoughts?

00:12:47.200 Well, I mean, Biden has got to be the I mean, Harry Truman was famous.

00:12:52.160 I mean, you know, that buck stops here.

00:12:55.700 And what do we have?

00:12:56.860 We have Joe Biden is is is is exactly the opposite.

00:13:00.120 Hey, don't look at me.

00:13:01.100 We can't the whole administration.

00:13:02.760 We can't do anything about oil prices.

00:13:04.880 Hey, go go ask Vladimir Putin, you know, blame it on Putin.

00:13:08.840 And of course, we know we know what's really going on.

00:13:12.160 I mean, the whole thing is to transition because they're saying it now.

00:13:16.640 Transition to to green energy, which is which is a preposterous and extremely dangerous and

00:13:25.020 destructive project.

00:13:26.240 But yeah, I mean, these people, I mean, again, they're they're at the head of or they are

00:13:31.820 the avatars for the progressive political faction.

00:13:36.060 I mean, they're they're not they're not leaders.

00:13:38.040 They are out front and people people behind them, whether this is partly the donor class,

00:13:44.280 whether this is Barack Obama and others are very comfortable using Joe Biden as an avatar

00:13:49.780 so that they have no they that will never be forced to take responsibility for Joe Biden and his

00:13:56.220 transformation of his efforts to transform America.

00:14:01.560 Well, let me let me ask you, do we do you think we know now where why Barack Obama bought the mansion in Washington, D.C.

00:14:11.020 and it lives in D.C.

00:14:12.600 Yeah, the only president and in memory to do so.

00:14:17.760 It does make it handy, doesn't it?

00:14:20.800 Yeah. Yeah.

00:14:21.760 Wilson did it.

00:14:22.760 But Wilson, Woodrow Wilson stayed in Washington, but he'd had a stroke.

00:14:26.800 So that's why Wilson was in Washington.

00:14:29.520 Yeah.

00:14:29.760 I mean, that that's what that's what Barack Obama has has been doing, of course.

00:14:33.800 And during the you know, during parts of Russiagate, we saw him stick his head up and say, yeah, it's me.

00:14:40.760 Remember that leaked that that leaked tape of him informing Democratic Party associates saying, oh, yeah,

00:14:48.960 what Michael Flynn is doing is is terrible and they should charge they should charge him with lying.

00:14:56.800 And so, you know, Obama, Obama has voluntarily told people that he's running the show.

00:15:05.600 Barack Obama went around, went to two different college campuses, at least University of Chicago and Stanford was the other.

00:15:12.800 And to take ownership of America's censorship program.

00:15:16.660 Right.

00:15:17.220 The progressive regime censorship program, which, of course, he calls fighting disinformation.

00:15:21.920 But I mean, this is the but any man who's going to say, yeah, I'm going to take charge of censorship, the censorship regime.

00:15:29.280 I mean, that's that's who's running the show.

00:15:32.160 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:32.780 And how long did it take for the the idiot Biden administration to come up with the the disinformation governance board two weeks after he did that? 1.00

00:15:41.380 Well, perhaps less. 1.00

00:15:43.500 Right.

00:15:44.160 Exactly.

00:15:44.520 An idea whose time came and went, apparently, thanks to the reaction for once of the Republican Party.

00:15:52.700 Yeah.

00:15:54.580 So, well, because the person they chose was so absurd that I mean, that was so absurd.

00:16:00.920 Right.

00:16:01.360 Even even Republican quizlings had to object, you know.

00:16:05.280 And of course, I think we may have talked about this before, but of course, they objected, saying, wait a minute, she herself has put out disinformation.

00:16:11.820 How can she be head of the disinformation board? 0.98

00:16:13.840 Instead, they should have said, are you kidding me?

00:16:15.500 A disinformation board?

00:16:16.560 You mean censorship?

00:16:17.140 But they protested on the grounds that she herself was guilty of disinformation.

00:16:21.840 How preposterous.

00:16:22.900 This is it's un-American, a disinformation board, a censorship regime. 0.82

00:16:27.140 And can you imagine the level of intellect amongst the Republicans who did protest based on her persona, her disinformation, her checkered background with disinformation?

00:16:41.280 They didn't first say, well, wait a minute, this entire Biden White House perpetuates and is prolificate in disinformation every day, targeting the American people with the most severe and stormy disinformation campaigns ever known to man.

00:17:03.980 Every day.

00:17:05.360 Right.

00:17:05.700 It's stunning.

00:17:06.960 People talk about Chinese disinformation, Russian disinformation, Iranian disinformation.

00:17:12.860 It's child's play compared to what our own government is doing to us.

00:17:16.880 Right.

00:17:17.500 We've seen it since 2016.

00:17:20.000 Everyone want Russian disinformation.

00:17:22.140 That was Clinton disinformation.

00:17:24.460 It was Democratic Party disinformation and FBI disinformation. 0.96

00:17:29.340 It is ridiculous. 0.86

00:17:31.140 And when we look at the, I have to say, we have to turn to Matthew McConaughey. 0.98

00:17:36.600 You know Biden is in trouble when he has to turn to a ham-fisted, overacting thespian like Matthew McConaughey, who overacted every element. 0.99

00:17:58.020 He was emoting in all the wrong places.

00:18:01.680 His rhythm, his cadence, his connection was terrible.

00:18:05.780 He was never in the moment, as they say in theater.

00:18:09.340 I mean, McConaughey could have told a moving story.

00:18:15.300 He's a Texan.

00:18:16.360 I believe he was raised in Uvalde or close to there.

00:18:19.120 He could have said a prayer.

00:18:21.260 He could have talked about the lives that were lost and the tragedy and just said, you know what, the first thing we as Americans need to do is mourn.

00:18:31.200 It's a sad thing.

00:18:32.380 And look at these beautiful children.

00:18:34.300 I mean, this is a terrible thing that happened.

00:18:36.120 But, right, instead it's a platform to push dangerous, to push unconstitutional means on Americans, right, which is exactly what Joe Biden has been doing, which is exactly what Barack Obama, you know, Barack Obama famously, instead of mourning the kids, you know, who were killed, you know, he pushes a reminiscence of George Floyd.

00:19:04.500 All right, it's obscene.

00:19:05.840 They can't leave it alone.

00:19:08.020 They can't leave it alone.

00:19:09.780 Right.

00:19:10.120 And the fact that these are Biden's surrogates.

00:19:13.320 The biggest obscenity of all is he actually said what he was doing.

00:19:17.640 He said, this is a window of opportunity.

00:19:21.920 Right.

00:19:22.080 And the Marxist laugh that drives the Biden White House had to be gleeful.

00:19:29.120 Their mouths foaming in anticipation because they were going to reach into every household in America and take away nine millimeter handguns.

00:19:40.680 They were going to take assault weapons, so-called AR-15s.

00:19:45.940 They were going to do it all, brother.

00:19:48.220 They're going to have red flags.

00:19:49.760 They were going to have background checks.

00:19:52.200 See something.

00:19:53.040 Say something.

00:19:53.720 And by golly, you know what we'll do with that, brothers and sisters of the left.

00:19:58.540 And we do know.

00:19:59.640 And it was just another craven effort to violate the Constitution of the United States and to really insult the intelligence of conservatives and independents and Republicans and all.

00:20:13.320 And all who own guns, who own weapons to defend their homes, as well as sporting rifles and pistols, or simply shoot clays and, you know, plink. 0.74

00:20:26.720 The fact of the matter is, right now, with this government, everything it's done, persecuting a president for seven, this is a seventh year of the persecution of Donald Trump.

00:20:39.140 They've not found one thing that he did.

00:20:41.420 He's not been found guilty of a single, single accusation.

00:20:46.140 And it goes on and on through the lies and the deceit and the contempt of the Marxist left Democratic Party.

00:20:55.400 And if you think Americans are going to let go of their last line of defense against the madness and the anarchy of the left, I think everybody in Washington, D.C. is sorely, sorely mistaken.

00:21:11.700 And we'll find out to their, it will be worse than sugar in.

00:21:16.440 I think there may be no time since the, since the drafting of the Second Amendment that Americans have understood the real significance of the Second Amendment, which of course isn't about militias.

00:21:35.080 And it's not about hunting.

00:21:37.200 The Second Amendment, it's important to understand, you know, for people to understand the context.

00:21:41.940 And now we do, again, maybe more than any time since 1791 when it was ratified.

00:21:47.040 And that is, it was written in the context of fighting tyranny, defending against tyranny.

00:21:51.860 And when we consider what has happened in this country, as you say, over the last seven years to Donald Trump, his supporters, Donald Trump and his aides and supporters, people understand very clearly that tyranny is one, is absolutely upon us.

00:22:10.680 And the way I tend to see it is, we are not the last line of defense, we are actually the first line of defense, it's the police that are supposed to be auxiliaries to all of us taking care of our neighborhoods and communities, we're on the front lines, and responsible for protecting our families and communities.

00:22:29.680 And it is the police who are there to give help when we need it.

00:22:36.160 And if the police aren't going to help, if the police of law enforcement are instead going to turn on Americans, well, that's another arrangement that no one bargained for, but we'll figure that out as we go along.

00:22:47.260 But yeah, I think Americans now have a very, very clear sense of the importance of the Second Amendment, the importance of the right to bear arms.

00:22:58.660 Maybe you saw an article written by Naomi Wolf.

00:23:03.120 She put it on her substack a few days ago.

00:23:06.080 And it's really impressive, because she comes from a very liberal milieu. 0.98

00:23:10.260 I mean, her parents, she was raised in California, very liberal left-wing parents.

00:23:15.120 She, you know, for most of her career, you know, I mean, she was an advisor to Al Gore, advisor to Bill Clinton.

00:23:19.880 So she comes from a very left-wing milieu.

00:23:21.700 This was not just an impassioned defense of the Second Amendment.

00:23:27.320 It was a story of her education, right?

00:23:32.040 It was almost like a 19th century novel, The Buildings Roman, explaining how she came to understand, respect, and admire the Second Amendment.

00:23:42.000 So I think that it really captures the energies of the country right now, that Americans understand how important it is and what it is we're up against.

00:23:54.500 Naomi Wolf is a brilliant writer and author.

00:23:59.480 And even though I disagree with much of her politics, it sounds like we've reached agreement on something, the Second Amendment.

00:24:09.640 Oh, I said her politics have changed.

00:24:12.380 Her politics have changed dramatically. 0.85

00:24:14.940 I mean, you know, again, she used to be a consultant, advisor to Gore and Clinton.

00:24:19.420 And now, I mean, her new book, I mean, she's out there going after Fauci, going after the COVID regime. 0.58

00:24:27.260 So, yeah, she's really great and really impressive.

00:24:32.600 Well, enlightenment is a wonderful thing, and I'm delighted I'll have to take a look at this new book as well.

00:24:41.700 I mean, you've got me reading here a lot.

00:24:44.340 All right.

00:24:44.700 I've got a stack here that's building.

00:24:49.400 But I want to turn as well to Biden.

00:24:55.600 And the great mystery to me, of the many mysteries, but the great mystery is, as I watch the corporate-owned media,

00:25:05.680 as I watch the Democrat, the Marxist Democrats drive the Democrat Party farther and farther to the left, 0.94

00:25:12.540 everyone is pretending that Kamala Harris is still some sort of noteworthy historical figure who has talent and depth and knowledge

00:25:25.380 and is an extraordinarily charismatic figure upon whom great, bright, illuminating fortune awaits.

00:25:36.580 I just don't see it.

00:25:38.460 Biden is impaired.

00:25:40.480 He has cognitive dissonance as a matter of his daily activities.

00:25:46.480 There's nothing he can do that is coherent.

00:25:51.760 And why do we pretend this?

00:25:54.420 Why do we pretend all is okay when we have poll after poll?

00:25:58.600 Three-fourths of the country say we're headed in the wrong direction.

00:26:01.900 Over half of us say that the man is not mentally fit to be president of the United States.

00:26:07.540 No president has ever taken as much vacation as he has.

00:26:12.080 And no president, at least to my knowledge, has ever, ever given the press less access than this president.

00:26:20.800 What are we doing?

00:26:24.660 I mean, you know, I have a friend who calls it, you know, who calls it the regime of make-believe.

00:26:33.120 Things they believe about Kamala Harris.

00:26:34.720 I mean, who knows, maybe they know something more about Biden's well-being than we do.

00:26:43.240 I would love to see that effort made, because even the left-wing-owned media in this country

00:26:50.120 will not be able to keep a straight face as she bumbles her way through a campaign. 1.00

00:26:56.320 She received fewer votes than any other Democratic presidential candidate in the primary.

00:27:02.500 Right.

00:27:03.220 She was the least-liked candidate, let's be honest.

00:27:07.540 Oh, yeah, no way.

00:27:08.420 Obama chose her.

00:27:09.380 Right.

00:27:09.860 No way.

00:27:10.700 Biden, not even Biden, is that far gone.

00:27:15.240 So, like, huh, who can I pick for my vice president?

00:27:18.100 How about the woman who accused me of a racist, accused me of being a racist in front of a national TV audience?

00:27:24.140 No, Barack Obama has loved her for years.

00:27:27.360 Barack Obama directed all of the, you know, all of his donors in 2020 to, you know, go for Kamala, and she was a disaster. 0.82

00:27:33.800 In a sense, Kamala Harris is Obama's revenge, another phase of Obama's revenge against America.

00:27:39.560 Here, I'm going to stick them with that.

00:27:40.940 So, yeah, that's, I mean, that's all she has going for her.

00:27:44.620 And insofar as he can convince the press to push for Kamala Harris, he will, and the press will go along, as they have with every other Barack Obama initiative since 2008.

00:27:57.400 The January 6th Democrats reach out to a former ABC News president slash producer to direct the January 6th hearings.

00:28:14.700 This is a man whose principal achievements as a producer and executive at ABC was to bury the story of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:28:24.940 And so his greatest contribution is to actually bury news, not cover it.

00:28:35.820 This is hilarious what they've done.

00:28:37.780 He is going to draw more attention than any one of the witnesses that they can bring before that committee.

00:28:44.380 Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, it'll be fantastic, though, to see Adam Schiff and a top hat and tails.

00:28:50.940 I mean, we'll see what this production looks like.

00:28:52.900 Liz Cheney will be out there in a ball gown or something like that. 1.00

00:28:56.040 I don't know which way it's going to go, but you and I and your audience, we have either the blessing or the curse to now be living through living through an age in which the Democrats are processing or turning every every B movie about Washington and Washington stagecraft into reality.

00:29:16.960 So that's that's that's that's that's what we're seeing with them hiring hiring this ABC producer.

00:29:22.740 This is a total takeover of the two storied well, storied department and agency.

00:29:32.460 This is as ugly a moment as I ever imagined in American history.

00:29:38.680 The FBI would be publicly known to be politically corrupt to the core that there may be a decent person or two working in it.

00:29:51.240 But if you're carrying an FBI credential or as a Department of Justice credential, the likelihood is great that you are politically corrupt and working and working for the Marxist Dems against American citizens.

00:30:06.600 That's what we're witnessing right now, your thoughts.

00:30:11.100 Yeah, I absolutely.

00:30:13.380 I mean, this is this has been my thoughts since I saw, you know, since I started reporting on the Russiagate stuff that the FBI has has essentially become now nothing more than a secret police force serving the interest of the national security state, which is represented, represented mostly by the Democratic Party, though it has allies among Republicans as well.

00:30:35.940 And it's it's it's it's a it's a terrifying moment.

00:30:39.140 We saw what happened with, you know, again, we've talked about it before, but Peter Navarro, I mean, I mean, putting putting putting putting an advisor to a former president and handcuffs and leg irons.

00:30:52.680 I mean, this is this is of course, they did the same to, you know, they broke down Roger Stone's door.

00:30:58.280 So, yeah, there can be no doubt now.

00:31:01.940 And, you know, the really amazing thing, I think, for, you know, for for us and your audiences, we are the people of law and order.

00:31:11.760 You know, we respect or, you know, respect law enforcement authorities.

00:31:18.920 And now we have a very different picture of our of our storied FBI, a very different picture of the Department of Justice.

00:31:28.140 And, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm of the belief that there is really no way to restore the integrity of these institutions.

00:31:37.820 But I mean, I'm I'm also the belief that these same people have laid waste to our constitutional order and what comes after will be decided by will be decided by the victors in a very serious domestic conflict right now, which I certainly hope doesn't go hot.

00:31:58.480 But there are a number of, you know, there are a number of dangerous points ahead.

00:32:06.160 And as as we started by talking about, I mean, if they go after Donald Trump, if they try to arrest Donald Trump, which is it's been their ambition for for several years.

00:32:15.260 So that that's why I say it's shocking as it is. It doesn't surprise me if this is their goal.

00:32:19.980 So we have we have some tough, tough times to look forward to.

00:32:26.940 But again, I'm I'm I'm I'm confident I'm confident in the future of of the American people.

00:32:35.380 Well, I'm I'm confident in the in the American people.

00:32:39.200 I'm a populist. I'm a conservative.

00:32:41.740 I'm I am a old fashioned Republican.

00:32:46.720 By that, I mean, I say what I mean.

00:32:49.700 I mean, what I say. And I don't go to the country club and and we and Donald Trump has made this the party of working men and women because and that suits me just to a T because I'm a populist.

00:33:02.180 I want the Republicans always representing working men and women, their families, the middle class.

00:33:07.540 I've been writing about it for 20 years.

00:33:09.700 Yeah. And I have to say to you, Lee, right now, I think it's even money which way that the leadership of the Republican Party breaks.

00:33:18.800 I don't know that they've got the sense or the judgment to stay quiet because suddenly you've got Mitch McConnell out bragging that he's knocking off candidates who are America first.

00:33:31.420 Right. In some few instances, Trump, by the way, is 100 wins for his endorsements and six losses.

00:33:41.400 That's a pretty good record for anyone.

00:33:43.060 But McCarthy wanted to get into the playoffs anywhere.

00:33:46.520 Yeah. But McCarthy wanted to blame Trump for January 6th.

00:33:53.240 He's apparently gone through some sort of salvation process here because now Trump has endorsed him.

00:34:00.160 I think that that is a terrible mistake.

00:34:02.420 But there it is.

00:34:03.860 We all make mistakes. 0.98

00:34:05.700 But I can't even imagine having these weak-kneed, lily-livered cowards running the Senate and the House. 0.97

00:34:15.880 No, I agree. 0.93

00:34:17.480 But I think we're going to see some good people in November.

00:34:25.340 We're going to see people like J.D. Vance and Joe – J.D. Vance in the Senate, Blake Masters, Joe Kent in the House.

00:34:35.940 So I'm very optimistic about some of the rising leadership in the Republican Party.

00:34:41.480 But I hope I'm not, you know, I hope I'm not boring you with this.

00:34:47.580 But, I mean, my real optimism resides in the American public and how we, you know, we are all – it's up to us to take responsibility and to become leaders ourselves and our families and communities.

00:35:01.580 That's the core of our strength right there, our blessed families and our great communities.

00:35:07.420 So that's, you know –

00:35:09.920 And by the way, you're not boring me, but you are scaring me because for this reason, the Republicans, like the Democrats, have done so much to destroy the American family.

00:35:24.080 They've gone along with outrageous, outrageous tolerances and permissiveness, whether it be the open border.

00:35:34.640 You know, famously, George W. Bush saying jobs that Americans won't do. 0.99

00:35:39.220 Well, damn it, George. 0.99

00:35:40.980 You know what? 1.00

00:35:41.900 You elitist president.

00:35:44.580 I just can't even tell you what I think of having said that.

00:35:48.680 No American should ever think there is a job that anyone won't do.

00:35:54.120 We were raised as Americans to respect any work.

00:35:58.900 That is really so well put.

00:36:01.220 That's really beautiful.

00:36:02.000 And I can't stand the fact that he said that because it's just sickening.

00:36:06.900 It was a rationalization.

00:36:08.220 It wasn't American value.

00:36:09.800 It wasn't an analysis of our economy or our society.

00:36:15.800 Right.

00:36:16.020 It was a rationalization of a pro-open border president who has done more damage to this country in so many ways, whether it's the Iraq war, whether –

00:36:25.620 Oh, yeah.

00:36:25.960 You know, the list goes on. 1.00

00:36:27.300 And then to see this fatuous fool be revered by the left is just sickening. 1.00

00:36:34.200 But, of course, he would be. 1.00

00:36:36.160 So, I'm sorry.

00:36:37.040 That's when you scared me.

00:36:38.200 Because the American family is precious, and they have had more shovels with them than anybody.

00:36:44.440 I just can't stand what we've done to the American family.

00:36:48.220 We have a society right now that's in decline because we've got evangelicals who are now second-guessing themselves, and they're scared to talk politics.

00:36:58.980 No one says anything about the black churches who talk politics.

00:37:02.260 That's their right, and the evangelicals can suddenly be told to kowtow to some sort of Marxist-left nonsense and not stand up for life, not stand up for a country that makes these churches possible.

00:37:19.020 Let me repeat that again.

00:37:21.360 This country made these churches possible, and I know that these are supposed to be universal rights people talk about, but let me just disabuse everybody of that.

00:37:31.560 These rights are American rights.

00:37:35.360 They were fought for.

00:37:36.960 They were won by Americans in the Revolutionary War, and they have been secured in blood in the centuries since.

00:37:46.160 These are American rights, and God Almighty has been kind and gracious enough to let us get through to this point, but we have a responsibility to preserve those churches, 0.96

00:38:00.040 and these churches have a responsibility to preserve the country that makes them possible, and only fools.

00:38:05.640 If anybody wants to argue with that, how many churches are in China? 0.96

00:38:09.740 How many are in Russia?

00:38:12.960 How about give us another example?

00:38:15.040 How many in Africa, South America?

00:38:18.840 I don't want to hear the nonsense. 1.00

00:38:20.280 This country made this society possible, this great republic, and these damn fools who want to talk nonsense just keep it up and keep living in a pretend world. 1.00

00:38:32.140 But the real world is crashing upon us quickly. 0.99

00:38:34.960 You saw how fearful how many priests and preachers were during the COVID lockdowns.

00:38:45.740 I mean, they just rolled over and said, yeah, whatever the government's going to say.

00:38:49.560 At a time when American families most needed shepherds, most needed guidance, most needed affection, most needed community, most needed witness, right?

00:39:07.780 They all backed down, and not all, but so many of them backed down and did nothing.

00:39:13.760 But, again, the way I see it is, what did this do?

00:39:18.920 In many ways, it pushed us back on the reliance of the American family.

00:39:23.540 I guess we'll have to take care of ourselves.

00:39:25.540 If no one else is going to take care of us, we'll take care of ourselves.

00:39:29.340 And that, to me, is our real strength.

00:39:33.720 The American family now is at risk, though, to that point, because I've been talking about this.

00:39:39.420 I mean, we're watching generation after generation, testosterone levels are falling every 20 years significantly.

00:39:49.340 We are reaching a point where it is a crisis.

00:39:53.600 We are having fewer children in this country.

00:39:57.280 And we are not expressing our – but across that border come illegal immigrants who will have children, not as many as before, but they have children.

00:40:08.120 And the truth of the matter is that they have more faith in the future than do Americans.

00:40:13.560 American working men and women don't have faith in the future because they're not having children, and that is the surest statement. 1.00

00:40:19.140 How much faith in the future do you have?

00:40:21.220 That requires marriage. 0.97

00:40:22.920 It requires a traditional family. 0.73

00:40:25.100 And it requires having children.

00:40:27.140 And more than replacement.

00:40:28.760 More than two children.

00:40:31.540 This is a country that's not even looking honestly at what is happening to us and why.

00:40:36.900 Yeah, and the replacement rate's a very, very good point.

00:40:42.360 And you're right.

00:40:44.600 So much has been stacked against the American family.

00:40:48.260 And excuse me, because I don't mean to sound Pollyanna-ish, but I was speaking – but I'm going to give you another book here.

00:40:54.280 I was speaking to a guy the other day, a veteran, an Iraq veteran who was terribly wounded in Iraq by a suicide bomb attack.

00:41:08.080 And I spoke to him the other day, and he lives out in the West, not the West Coast, but the West.

00:41:14.440 Big West with big mountains.

00:41:16.000 And he said, oh, no, what I believe is –

00:41:18.920 That sounds like my country.

00:41:20.560 Well, he said, that's the real spirit of America, the plain spirit.

00:41:25.260 And I said, well, does that spirit still exist?

00:41:27.480 Because there's a lot of people who think it may not.

00:41:31.380 And he said, oh, no, it still exists.

00:41:35.520 We have – there are cowboys out here. 0.89

00:41:38.540 There are strong people.

00:41:39.820 And he said, and by the way, it's not just kids in the rural areas.

00:41:43.280 This guy named Braxton McCoy, his book is called The Glass Factory.

00:41:48.860 Great book about his story, about his injuries, about his recovery and redemption.

00:41:56.300 And he said, look, I coach wrestling, and I see – I go all around, and it's not just the rural kids.

00:42:03.220 It's city kids too.

00:42:04.900 That plain spirit, that pioneering spirit, that strong spirit still exists in this country, and it is the backbone of this country.

00:42:15.820 And I said, well, God bless you, man.

00:42:17.660 That is great.

00:42:18.860 Because people need to hear that message.

00:42:22.220 And then I'm going to point out the 20 top cities and biggest metropolitan areas in the country, democratically controlled.

00:42:30.820 They're raging with everything from the highest crime rates in memory, if not history, murder rates that are going through the roof, poverty in the inner cities once again.

00:42:46.520 We are looking at corrupt cities, corrupt governments, efforts to defund police.

00:42:52.900 And by the way, that's where most people live, not in the Wild West, not out in the rural areas or even metropolitan areas in the West.

00:43:01.340 They live in those top 20 areas.

00:43:04.680 We're a country, right now, in my judgment, we are at judgment day in this country, and either we start showing some judgment or we're going to be in deep, deep trouble.

00:43:16.180 I know you're concerned about John Allen, the Marine General, running into trouble over Qatar.

00:43:24.080 Give us your sense about what's wrong there.

00:43:28.540 Well, I think it's a very strange story.

00:43:32.220 You know, this just broke about how they're going.

00:43:34.760 The FBI, the Department of Justice, is now going after John Allen, you know, retired Marine General.

00:43:40.620 And they're getting him for lobbying on behalf of the Gulf Emirate of Qatar.

00:43:48.400 What struck me as strange about this story is the way that the FBI is playing this is that Allen changed.

00:43:55.620 Allen helped influence policy toward Qatar.

00:43:58.520 And that makes no sense.

00:44:00.260 This is affected the Trump administration's policy toward Qatar.

00:44:04.720 And this makes no sense to me because there were two people in the administration in the cabinet that was Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who both knew Qatar very well and who would have been making the case for Qatar inside the administration.

00:44:22.340 So the idea that somehow Allen was responsible for changing this policy struck me as very strange.

00:44:29.240 And then I started reading the the court documents and I noticed a very interesting exchange where they were interviewing former Trump.

00:44:39.100 The FBI was interviewing former Trump National Security Advisor, a general H.R. McMaster, who said he had no idea that Allen was representing Qatar.

00:44:48.300 And this makes this makes no sense, because when Allen when Allen contacted McMaster, given the way that Washington works, when Allen stuck his hand up and said, hey, I want to talk to you about Qatar.

00:45:01.200 Obviously, McMaster would know something is going on.

00:45:04.820 Right. It felt a lot like the Michael Sussman case where, you know, where James Baker said, oh, yeah, I had no idea that Sussman was representing the Clinton team.

00:45:14.700 Yeah. So even though he was the campaign, I'm afraid that this looks like a right.

00:45:21.840 Absolutely. This looks like another strange FBI case.

00:45:25.820 And it wouldn't surprise me, given that given that the timing is about the Trump administration, it wouldn't surprise me.

00:45:34.040 This is another instrument to go after Donald Trump, as well as family members like Jared Kushner.

00:45:39.800 So I hope your audience will will will will will look out and see how this story develops.

00:45:47.280 There's a lot more to it, I think, than has been reported.

00:45:50.360 I'm just afraid the FBI is so obsessed.

00:45:53.220 Well, especially this FBI under the Biden administration is obsessed with going after Donald Trump, Donald Trump aides and Donald Trump supporters.

00:46:00.760 So it wouldn't surprise me if this is going to be another instrument to target to target half of the country, but target people who didn't vote for Joe Biden.

00:46:10.000 And John Allen, of course, was an advisor to Hillary Clinton.

00:46:13.240 So, yeah, it gets it gets complicated.

00:46:16.640 Lee Smith, as always, it's great talking with you.

00:46:19.920 We always give our guests the last word, if you will.

00:46:22.980 You're concluding thoughts here on our on our marathon session.

00:46:26.240 Well, first of all, I just want to say thank you so much for bringing me on today to have a great conversation with you, as always.

00:46:35.180 And it's always great to be speaking, you know, speaking with your with your great audience, too.

00:46:40.060 And again, I know that things that our country is going through a hard time, but I hope that I hope that they share my optimism because it's not about it's not about events from day to day.

00:46:55.460 It's about carrying on and and having faith and confidence in our great country and in our neighbors and in our fellow citizens.

00:47:04.480 I think there's lots of evidence out there showing, you know, again, with all with with all of the terrible trials we're going through there.

00:47:13.160 Our forefathers went through a harder time and they left us a lot of help and a lot of information among them is the Second Amendment.

00:47:22.600 They saw really bad things are seeing really bad things.

00:47:26.820 But we have guidance, too, and we have the we have their wisdom to be thankful for to get us through this time and to understand this moment.

00:47:37.340 So God bless America and God bless you.

00:47:39.880 Thanks so much again for bringing me on today.

00:47:42.560 God bless you.

00:47:43.140 Thank you so much, Lee.

00:47:44.320 And I do want to just say in conclusion here today, there's a big billboard with the Bible right next to it.

00:47:53.220 And beside it, these words, when all else fails, read the instructions.

00:47:59.240 And I love that.

00:48:00.760 And I just want to leave that with everybody to consider or as you wish.

00:48:06.120 Anyway, that's great.

00:48:08.300 I've been reading.

00:48:09.180 I've been reading the Psalms for the last couple of months every night.

00:48:12.260 And it's not just it's not just reassurance and wisdom.

00:48:17.960 It's it's guidance as well.

00:48:19.600 A way to understand a way to understand things that arise in history all the time.

00:48:25.240 Tyranny, brutality, and also our resilience, our perseverance.

00:48:32.800 And we will prevail.

00:48:34.960 Period.

00:48:36.060 Yep.

00:48:37.420 Exactly.

00:48:37.800 Come hell or high water.

00:48:39.380 We will prevail.

00:48:41.140 Lee Smith, thanks so much.

00:48:42.240 Thank you, sir.

00:48:43.460 Thanks, everybody, for being with us.

00:48:45.260 Here tomorrow, we'll be talking with conservative commentator and comedian Tim Young.

00:48:49.900 We'll be talking politics from the perspective of comedian Tim Young here tomorrow.

00:48:55.500 Please join us on The Great America Show.

00:48:58.740 Till tomorrow, God bless you and God bless America.

The Great America Show - June 16, 2022

THE END GOAL FOR THE J6 COMMITTEE IS TO INDICT DONALD TRUMP SAYS LEE SMITH

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