Lee Smith, columnist, investigative reporter, best-selling author, and author of The Plot to Overthrow the President, joins host Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show to discuss the January 6th Committee hearings and what they could mean for the country.
00:00:00.200Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is the Great America Show. Welcome to the show, and great to have you with us in these stirring times we Americans live in.
00:00:10.560How times have changed and are changing still. We were once the envy of the world, and now I'm not so sure.
00:00:18.360We've been faced with lots of fundamental choices over the past almost half century, and our leaders have often made poor choices.
00:00:26.060Choices that made our nation poorer, and of course you and I can't escape our own responsibility in choosing such leaders over the decades.
00:00:35.660And tolerating ineptitude and unprincipled leadership in the White House.
00:00:40.800Two leaders stand out for their clarity of American values and vision and concrete achievements in the national interest.
00:00:48.920President Ronald Reagan and President Donald Trump.
00:00:51.900And while they both are historic figures and became heroes in the Republican Party, they both also excited the vicious enmity of the Democrat Party.
00:01:02.660Both leaders were assailed and assaulted President Reagan by attempted assassination,
00:01:08.960and President Trump by relentless political persecution on the part of the Marxist left and the deep state that goes on to this very day.
00:01:17.660Our guest today is Lee Smith, columnist, investigative reporter, best-selling author.
00:01:24.540Lee wrote the book, The Plot to Overthrow the President, which was the basis of the documentary of the same title.
00:01:31.220Lee's latest book is The Permanent Coup, How Enemies, Foreign and Domestic, Targeted the American President.
00:02:26.900Well, I mean, we're going to see what this circus looks like with their first, you know, first live hearings on Thursday.
00:02:36.420And I have to say, I'm a little concerned about it.
00:02:40.520I was speaking recently with our colleague and friend, the great Julie Kelly, whose work covering January 6th and his aftermath is absolutely invaluable.
00:02:50.420And in our discussion, we came up with a very dark scenario.
00:02:57.420And I think it's not unlikely that the ultimate aim here is for the January 6th committee to partner with Biden's fanatical DOJ and to move toward arresting Donald Trump.
00:03:10.560And, you know, I think that that's where they want to go.
00:03:15.080I mean, you know, they they they they tried to charge him with obstruction during the you know, during the Mueller charade.
00:03:24.560They are they are determined to punish not only Donald Trump, but they are determined to punish the you know, that anyone who didn't vote for Joe Biden.
00:03:36.900And that's what this will result in. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm actually concerned about that.
00:03:42.080So while they are while everyone from Adam Schiff to Liz Cheney are vicious, sinister buffoons, they can do a lot of damage.
00:03:51.700And I think their their plan is to do a lot of damage and it's to move.
00:03:56.140You know, I mean, what they did to Peter Navarro, I mean, they put Peter Navarro in handcuffs.
00:04:00.200I mean, what happens? And leg irons. Right.
00:04:03.220Right. Leg irons. Right. What happens if they move to do the same to the former president of the United States?
00:04:10.040But I think that's where I think that's where they would like it to go.
00:04:15.180They would like that. That's very disturbing, obviously.
00:04:18.960Yeah. To everyone and certainly this audience.
00:04:21.580It's it's it's you know, it's just possible that this could happen because everything that has been impossible has happened.
00:04:32.800So I'm with you considering this and with Julie considering this, I have to take it very seriously.
00:04:39.700I I I hope that they don't go that far, because if they go that far, the the country will be in crisis immediately.
00:04:51.600I agree. And I don't think that that crisis is one that would certainly benefit the Marxist Dems who are leading the Democrat Party.
00:05:03.640As mad as these people are, as venal as these people are, they may have lost complete contact with their own vulnerability, their own limitations.
00:05:37.580And they have no sense of of how this will be received outside of their bubble.
00:05:45.180But the other possibility, of course, is that they're they're they're planning to incite troubles inside the country.
00:05:52.020I tend to think it's the first. I think that a lot of their grand schemes and a lot of their grand plans, for instance, you know, their climate change policies.
00:06:01.280I think they're incapable of looking very far down the road and seeing how this will, you know, trying to game this out.
00:06:08.020But I mean, I mean, if you look again at what they tried to do with Mueller, I mean, the big move was to move to an obstruction charge.
00:06:16.080Once they found there was no room to, you know, there was no evidence of Russian collusion or, of course, conspiracy with the Russian Federation.
00:06:24.060That would have been something like the charge they moved to obstruction.
00:06:27.920And this is how a lot of January 6th defendants right now are being charged, obstruction of an official proceeding.
00:06:35.640And I again, I think it's possible this is a terrible scenario, but I think it's possible that's what they're going to do to Donald Trump.
00:06:42.280There is this obstruction, this obstruction charge hanging out there and they want to hang it on him for January 6th.
00:06:49.700And they're going to tie him up with the with the Proud Boys and with the Oath Keepers.
00:06:55.040You saw what happened recently that the leader of the Proud Boys, I believe the name is Enrique Enrique Terrio.
00:07:02.080He was charged and a number of Proud Boys were charged with seditious conspiracy, which is absolutely nuts.
00:07:08.020But again, I think that this is this is a possibility and it's extremely worrisome.
00:07:17.780And and there you go. This is where these people have led us.
00:07:21.560This is where they've led the country.
00:07:25.080Well, you know what is immediately disturbing as we think about this considered and I haven't considered it before this.
00:07:32.980But the Republican Party leadership is so weak, there wouldn't be a response from them.
00:07:40.320That is it is the Democrats were gaming this out, strategizing.
00:07:46.100I'm sure that was that played very large in their considerations.
00:07:51.020And what do you think? I don't know what the Republican Party response would be.
00:07:58.960I I think they would have to respond to this.
00:08:04.080Clearly, what's happened since January 6th is the Republican Party, aside from a few aside from a few members like Marjorie Taylor Greene, God bless her,
00:08:13.200have have sat in the background because I imagine leadership's position is this.
00:08:17.360It's like, hey, let's show Biden and the Dems run America into the ground and come November 20, 22.
00:08:24.180Independents will have no choice but to lean our way in the elections.
00:08:28.260The important thing is, everyone, keep your heads down.
00:08:37.920So what if they're letting our base get rolled up?
00:08:41.060So what if the DOJ, Merrick Garland is redefining Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray and DHS are redefining our base as domestic terrorists?
00:08:53.900We'll see what happens on November, you know, November 2022.
00:08:58.620I think if they were to make a move against, you know, against the former president of the United States, the still leader of the Republican Party, I would imagine that would I would have to force the hands of some of them.
00:09:10.240They would they would have to get out there and make some noise at that point.
00:09:49.480I mean, if if this was to be right, just the response to this speaking out, if they're right, it's if they were to arrest the president of the United States, Donald J.
00:10:02.760And the best we heard from the Republican Party was rhetoric and I'm sure passionate rhetoric, it would be a complete and history would be rewritten.
00:10:16.040Yeah, because without leaders and by the way, the Republican Party has no leaders.
00:10:22.360I've mentioned two of the people who have leadership roles, but they're not leaders.
00:15:32.780And how long did it take for the the idiot Biden administration to come up with the the disinformation governance board two weeks after he did that?
00:16:01.360Even even Republican quizlings had to object, you know.
00:16:05.280And of course, I think we may have talked about this before, but of course, they objected, saying, wait a minute, she herself has put out disinformation.
00:16:11.820How can she be head of the disinformation board?
00:16:13.840Instead, they should have said, are you kidding me?
00:16:22.900This is it's un-American, a disinformation board, a censorship regime.
00:16:27.140And can you imagine the level of intellect amongst the Republicans who did protest based on her persona, her disinformation, her checkered background with disinformation?
00:16:41.280They didn't first say, well, wait a minute, this entire Biden White House perpetuates and is prolificate in disinformation every day, targeting the American people with the most severe and stormy disinformation campaigns ever known to man.
00:17:31.140And when we look at the, I have to say, we have to turn to Matthew McConaughey.
00:17:36.600You know Biden is in trouble when he has to turn to a ham-fisted, overacting thespian like Matthew McConaughey, who overacted every element.
00:17:58.020He was emoting in all the wrong places.
00:18:01.680His rhythm, his cadence, his connection was terrible.
00:18:05.780He was never in the moment, as they say in theater.
00:18:09.340I mean, McConaughey could have told a moving story.
00:18:21.260He could have talked about the lives that were lost and the tragedy and just said, you know what, the first thing we as Americans need to do is mourn.
00:18:34.300I mean, this is a terrible thing that happened.
00:18:36.120But, right, instead it's a platform to push dangerous, to push unconstitutional means on Americans, right, which is exactly what Joe Biden has been doing, which is exactly what Barack Obama, you know, Barack Obama famously, instead of mourning the kids, you know, who were killed, you know, he pushes a reminiscence of George Floyd.
00:19:22.080And the Marxist laugh that drives the Biden White House had to be gleeful.
00:19:29.120Their mouths foaming in anticipation because they were going to reach into every household in America and take away nine millimeter handguns.
00:19:40.680They were going to take assault weapons, so-called AR-15s.
00:19:45.940They were going to do it all, brother.
00:19:59.640And it was just another craven effort to violate the Constitution of the United States and to really insult the intelligence of conservatives and independents and Republicans and all.
00:20:13.320And all who own guns, who own weapons to defend their homes, as well as sporting rifles and pistols, or simply shoot clays and, you know, plink.
00:20:26.720The fact of the matter is, right now, with this government, everything it's done, persecuting a president for seven, this is a seventh year of the persecution of Donald Trump.
00:20:39.140They've not found one thing that he did.
00:20:41.420He's not been found guilty of a single, single accusation.
00:20:46.140And it goes on and on through the lies and the deceit and the contempt of the Marxist left Democratic Party.
00:20:55.400And if you think Americans are going to let go of their last line of defense against the madness and the anarchy of the left, I think everybody in Washington, D.C. is sorely, sorely mistaken.
00:21:11.700And we'll find out to their, it will be worse than sugar in.
00:21:16.440I think there may be no time since the, since the drafting of the Second Amendment that Americans have understood the real significance of the Second Amendment, which of course isn't about militias.
00:21:37.200The Second Amendment, it's important to understand, you know, for people to understand the context.
00:21:41.940And now we do, again, maybe more than any time since 1791 when it was ratified.
00:21:47.040And that is, it was written in the context of fighting tyranny, defending against tyranny.
00:21:51.860And when we consider what has happened in this country, as you say, over the last seven years to Donald Trump, his supporters, Donald Trump and his aides and supporters, people understand very clearly that tyranny is one, is absolutely upon us.
00:22:10.680And the way I tend to see it is, we are not the last line of defense, we are actually the first line of defense, it's the police that are supposed to be auxiliaries to all of us taking care of our neighborhoods and communities, we're on the front lines, and responsible for protecting our families and communities.
00:22:29.680And it is the police who are there to give help when we need it.
00:22:36.160And if the police aren't going to help, if the police of law enforcement are instead going to turn on Americans, well, that's another arrangement that no one bargained for, but we'll figure that out as we go along.
00:22:47.260But yeah, I think Americans now have a very, very clear sense of the importance of the Second Amendment, the importance of the right to bear arms.
00:22:58.660Maybe you saw an article written by Naomi Wolf.
00:23:03.120She put it on her substack a few days ago.
00:23:06.080And it's really impressive, because she comes from a very liberal milieu.
00:23:10.260I mean, her parents, she was raised in California, very liberal left-wing parents.
00:23:15.120She, you know, for most of her career, you know, I mean, she was an advisor to Al Gore, advisor to Bill Clinton.
00:23:19.880So she comes from a very left-wing milieu.
00:23:21.700This was not just an impassioned defense of the Second Amendment.
00:23:27.320It was a story of her education, right?
00:23:32.040It was almost like a 19th century novel, The Buildings Roman, explaining how she came to understand, respect, and admire the Second Amendment.
00:23:42.000So I think that it really captures the energies of the country right now, that Americans understand how important it is and what it is we're up against.
00:23:54.500Naomi Wolf is a brilliant writer and author.
00:23:59.480And even though I disagree with much of her politics, it sounds like we've reached agreement on something, the Second Amendment.
00:27:10.700Biden, not even Biden, is that far gone.
00:27:15.240So, like, huh, who can I pick for my vice president?
00:27:18.100How about the woman who accused me of a racist, accused me of being a racist in front of a national TV audience?
00:27:24.140No, Barack Obama has loved her for years.
00:27:27.360Barack Obama directed all of the, you know, all of his donors in 2020 to, you know, go for Kamala, and she was a disaster.
00:27:33.800In a sense, Kamala Harris is Obama's revenge, another phase of Obama's revenge against America.
00:27:39.560Here, I'm going to stick them with that.
00:27:40.940So, yeah, that's, I mean, that's all she has going for her.
00:27:44.620And insofar as he can convince the press to push for Kamala Harris, he will, and the press will go along, as they have with every other Barack Obama initiative since 2008.
00:27:57.400The January 6th Democrats reach out to a former ABC News president slash producer to direct the January 6th hearings.
00:28:14.700This is a man whose principal achievements as a producer and executive at ABC was to bury the story of Jeffrey Epstein.
00:28:24.940And so his greatest contribution is to actually bury news, not cover it.
00:28:37.780He is going to draw more attention than any one of the witnesses that they can bring before that committee.
00:28:44.380Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, it'll be fantastic, though, to see Adam Schiff and a top hat and tails.
00:28:50.940I mean, we'll see what this production looks like.
00:28:52.900Liz Cheney will be out there in a ball gown or something like that.
00:28:56.040I don't know which way it's going to go, but you and I and your audience, we have either the blessing or the curse to now be living through living through an age in which the Democrats are processing or turning every every B movie about Washington and Washington stagecraft into reality.
00:29:16.960So that's that's that's that's that's what we're seeing with them hiring hiring this ABC producer.
00:29:22.740This is a total takeover of the two storied well, storied department and agency.
00:29:32.460This is as ugly a moment as I ever imagined in American history.
00:29:38.680The FBI would be publicly known to be politically corrupt to the core that there may be a decent person or two working in it.
00:29:51.240But if you're carrying an FBI credential or as a Department of Justice credential, the likelihood is great that you are politically corrupt and working and working for the Marxist Dems against American citizens.
00:30:06.600That's what we're witnessing right now, your thoughts.
00:30:13.380I mean, this is this has been my thoughts since I saw, you know, since I started reporting on the Russiagate stuff that the FBI has has essentially become now nothing more than a secret police force serving the interest of the national security state, which is represented, represented mostly by the Democratic Party, though it has allies among Republicans as well.
00:30:35.940And it's it's it's it's a it's a terrifying moment.
00:30:39.140We saw what happened with, you know, again, we've talked about it before, but Peter Navarro, I mean, I mean, putting putting putting putting an advisor to a former president and handcuffs and leg irons.
00:30:52.680I mean, this is this is of course, they did the same to, you know, they broke down Roger Stone's door.
00:31:01.940And, you know, the really amazing thing, I think, for, you know, for for us and your audiences, we are the people of law and order.
00:31:11.760You know, we respect or, you know, respect law enforcement authorities.
00:31:18.920And now we have a very different picture of our of our storied FBI, a very different picture of the Department of Justice.
00:31:28.140And, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm of the belief that there is really no way to restore the integrity of these institutions.
00:31:37.820But I mean, I'm I'm also the belief that these same people have laid waste to our constitutional order and what comes after will be decided by will be decided by the victors in a very serious domestic conflict right now, which I certainly hope doesn't go hot.
00:31:58.480But there are a number of, you know, there are a number of dangerous points ahead.
00:32:06.160And as as we started by talking about, I mean, if they go after Donald Trump, if they try to arrest Donald Trump, which is it's been their ambition for for several years.
00:32:15.260So that that's why I say it's shocking as it is. It doesn't surprise me if this is their goal.
00:32:19.980So we have we have some tough, tough times to look forward to.
00:32:26.940But again, I'm I'm I'm I'm confident I'm confident in the future of of the American people.
00:32:35.380Well, I'm I'm confident in the in the American people.
00:32:49.700I mean, what I say. And I don't go to the country club and and we and Donald Trump has made this the party of working men and women because and that suits me just to a T because I'm a populist.
00:33:02.180I want the Republicans always representing working men and women, their families, the middle class.
00:33:07.540I've been writing about it for 20 years.
00:33:09.700Yeah. And I have to say to you, Lee, right now, I think it's even money which way that the leadership of the Republican Party breaks.
00:33:18.800I don't know that they've got the sense or the judgment to stay quiet because suddenly you've got Mitch McConnell out bragging that he's knocking off candidates who are America first.
00:33:31.420Right. In some few instances, Trump, by the way, is 100 wins for his endorsements and six losses.
00:33:41.400That's a pretty good record for anyone.
00:33:43.060But McCarthy wanted to get into the playoffs anywhere.
00:33:46.520Yeah. But McCarthy wanted to blame Trump for January 6th.
00:33:53.240He's apparently gone through some sort of salvation process here because now Trump has endorsed him.
00:34:00.160I think that that is a terrible mistake.
00:34:17.480But I think we're going to see some good people in November.
00:34:25.340We're going to see people like J.D. Vance and Joe – J.D. Vance in the Senate, Blake Masters, Joe Kent in the House.
00:34:35.940So I'm very optimistic about some of the rising leadership in the Republican Party.
00:34:41.480But I hope I'm not, you know, I hope I'm not boring you with this.
00:34:47.580But, I mean, my real optimism resides in the American public and how we, you know, we are all – it's up to us to take responsibility and to become leaders ourselves and our families and communities.
00:35:01.580That's the core of our strength right there, our blessed families and our great communities.
00:35:09.920And by the way, you're not boring me, but you are scaring me because for this reason, the Republicans, like the Democrats, have done so much to destroy the American family.
00:35:24.080They've gone along with outrageous, outrageous tolerances and permissiveness, whether it be the open border.
00:35:34.640You know, famously, George W. Bush saying jobs that Americans won't do.
00:36:16.020It was a rationalization of a pro-open border president who has done more damage to this country in so many ways, whether it's the Iraq war, whether –
00:36:38.200Because the American family is precious, and they have had more shovels with them than anybody.
00:36:44.440I just can't stand what we've done to the American family.
00:36:48.220We have a society right now that's in decline because we've got evangelicals who are now second-guessing themselves, and they're scared to talk politics.
00:36:58.980No one says anything about the black churches who talk politics.
00:37:02.260That's their right, and the evangelicals can suddenly be told to kowtow to some sort of Marxist-left nonsense and not stand up for life, not stand up for a country that makes these churches possible.
00:37:21.360This country made these churches possible, and I know that these are supposed to be universal rights people talk about, but let me just disabuse everybody of that.
00:37:36.960They were won by Americans in the Revolutionary War, and they have been secured in blood in the centuries since.
00:37:46.160These are American rights, and God Almighty has been kind and gracious enough to let us get through to this point, but we have a responsibility to preserve those churches,
00:38:00.040and these churches have a responsibility to preserve the country that makes them possible, and only fools.
00:38:05.640If anybody wants to argue with that, how many churches are in China?
00:38:20.280This country made this society possible, this great republic, and these damn fools who want to talk nonsense just keep it up and keep living in a pretend world.
00:38:32.140But the real world is crashing upon us quickly.
00:38:34.960You saw how fearful how many priests and preachers were during the COVID lockdowns.
00:38:45.740I mean, they just rolled over and said, yeah, whatever the government's going to say.
00:38:49.560At a time when American families most needed shepherds, most needed guidance, most needed affection, most needed community, most needed witness, right?
00:39:07.780They all backed down, and not all, but so many of them backed down and did nothing.
00:39:13.760But, again, the way I see it is, what did this do?
00:39:18.920In many ways, it pushed us back on the reliance of the American family.
00:39:23.540I guess we'll have to take care of ourselves.
00:39:25.540If no one else is going to take care of us, we'll take care of ourselves.
00:39:29.340And that, to me, is our real strength.
00:39:33.720The American family now is at risk, though, to that point, because I've been talking about this.
00:39:39.420I mean, we're watching generation after generation, testosterone levels are falling every 20 years significantly.
00:39:49.340We are reaching a point where it is a crisis.
00:39:53.600We are having fewer children in this country.
00:39:57.280And we are not expressing our – but across that border come illegal immigrants who will have children, not as many as before, but they have children.
00:40:08.120And the truth of the matter is that they have more faith in the future than do Americans.
00:40:13.560American working men and women don't have faith in the future because they're not having children, and that is the surest statement.
00:40:19.140How much faith in the future do you have?
00:42:18.860Because people need to hear that message.
00:42:22.220And then I'm going to point out the 20 top cities and biggest metropolitan areas in the country, democratically controlled.
00:42:30.820They're raging with everything from the highest crime rates in memory, if not history, murder rates that are going through the roof, poverty in the inner cities once again.
00:42:46.520We are looking at corrupt cities, corrupt governments, efforts to defund police.
00:42:52.900And by the way, that's where most people live, not in the Wild West, not out in the rural areas or even metropolitan areas in the West.
00:43:04.680We're a country, right now, in my judgment, we are at judgment day in this country, and either we start showing some judgment or we're going to be in deep, deep trouble.
00:43:16.180I know you're concerned about John Allen, the Marine General, running into trouble over Qatar.
00:43:24.080Give us your sense about what's wrong there.
00:43:28.540Well, I think it's a very strange story.
00:43:32.220You know, this just broke about how they're going.
00:43:34.760The FBI, the Department of Justice, is now going after John Allen, you know, retired Marine General.
00:43:40.620And they're getting him for lobbying on behalf of the Gulf Emirate of Qatar.
00:43:48.400What struck me as strange about this story is the way that the FBI is playing this is that Allen changed.
00:44:00.260This is affected the Trump administration's policy toward Qatar.
00:44:04.720And this makes no sense to me because there were two people in the administration in the cabinet that was Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who both knew Qatar very well and who would have been making the case for Qatar inside the administration.
00:44:22.340So the idea that somehow Allen was responsible for changing this policy struck me as very strange.
00:44:29.240And then I started reading the the court documents and I noticed a very interesting exchange where they were interviewing former Trump.
00:44:39.100The FBI was interviewing former Trump National Security Advisor, a general H.R. McMaster, who said he had no idea that Allen was representing Qatar.
00:44:48.300And this makes this makes no sense, because when Allen when Allen contacted McMaster, given the way that Washington works, when Allen stuck his hand up and said, hey, I want to talk to you about Qatar.
00:45:01.200Obviously, McMaster would know something is going on.
00:45:04.820Right. It felt a lot like the Michael Sussman case where, you know, where James Baker said, oh, yeah, I had no idea that Sussman was representing the Clinton team.
00:45:14.700Yeah. So even though he was the campaign, I'm afraid that this looks like a right.
00:45:21.840Absolutely. This looks like another strange FBI case.
00:45:25.820And it wouldn't surprise me, given that given that the timing is about the Trump administration, it wouldn't surprise me.
00:45:34.040This is another instrument to go after Donald Trump, as well as family members like Jared Kushner.
00:45:39.800So I hope your audience will will will will will look out and see how this story develops.
00:45:47.280There's a lot more to it, I think, than has been reported.
00:45:50.360I'm just afraid the FBI is so obsessed.
00:45:53.220Well, especially this FBI under the Biden administration is obsessed with going after Donald Trump, Donald Trump aides and Donald Trump supporters.
00:46:00.760So it wouldn't surprise me if this is going to be another instrument to target to target half of the country, but target people who didn't vote for Joe Biden.
00:46:10.000And John Allen, of course, was an advisor to Hillary Clinton.
00:46:13.240So, yeah, it gets it gets complicated.
00:46:16.640Lee Smith, as always, it's great talking with you.
00:46:19.920We always give our guests the last word, if you will.
00:46:22.980You're concluding thoughts here on our on our marathon session.
00:46:26.240Well, first of all, I just want to say thank you so much for bringing me on today to have a great conversation with you, as always.
00:46:35.180And it's always great to be speaking, you know, speaking with your with your great audience, too.
00:46:40.060And again, I know that things that our country is going through a hard time, but I hope that I hope that they share my optimism because it's not about it's not about events from day to day.
00:46:55.460It's about carrying on and and having faith and confidence in our great country and in our neighbors and in our fellow citizens.
00:47:04.480I think there's lots of evidence out there showing, you know, again, with all with with all of the terrible trials we're going through there.
00:47:13.160Our forefathers went through a harder time and they left us a lot of help and a lot of information among them is the Second Amendment.
00:47:22.600They saw really bad things are seeing really bad things.
00:47:26.820But we have guidance, too, and we have the we have their wisdom to be thankful for to get us through this time and to understand this moment.
00:47:37.340So God bless America and God bless you.
00:47:39.880Thanks so much again for bringing me on today.