The Great America Show - The Great America Saturday Show： April 26, 2025

00:00:00.000 hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us on this fine

00:00:07.140 monday in america i hope you all had a wonderful easter with your family and your loved ones

00:00:11.840 now let's get back to work right supreme court over the weekend uh sending us into an eventful

00:00:19.300 easter sunday the supreme court on saturday blocked for now the deportation of any venezuelans

00:00:24.980 held in northern texas under the 18th century wartime law now in a brief order the court

00:00:30.580 dissented trump's administration not to remove any venezuelans that are held in the blue bonnet

00:00:36.020 detention center under further notice of this court order justice clarus thomas and samuel alito

00:00:41.760 dissenting to that opinion um it's unbelievable where the supreme court uh has gone alito in his

00:00:51.220 dissenting opinion wrote quote in a sum literally in the middle of the night the court issued

00:00:56.700 unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule

00:01:02.360 without hearing from the opposing party within eight hours of receiving this application with

00:01:08.560 the dubious factual support for its order without providing any explanation for its order i refuse to

00:01:15.220 join the court's order because we have no good reason to think that under the circumstances

00:01:19.240 issuing an order at midnight was necessary or appropriate now this is the the the court order from the aclu so

00:01:27.940 alito understands that the aclu is leapfrogging to lower courts to get a supreme court injunction it's what

00:01:36.560 they always do uh he believes that he and and justice clarence thomas uh two of the only uh true americans

00:01:45.760 i should say on that court on this order i mean a disgrace he understands that based on the wrong

00:01:51.400 application of existing law uh for this the aclu is notorious for doing this um he acknowledges that

00:01:59.360 there is uh no allowance of hearing from the opposition party which would be the trump administration

00:02:05.220 and he also acknowledges that it was done in the middle of the night with under eight hours notice

00:02:11.680 um all but acknowledging that this is how a banana republic uh is run it it's truly truly remarkable

00:02:20.700 now as i said uh the high court the supreme court um acting in emergency appeal from the aclu contending

00:02:27.640 that immigration authorities appear to be moving to restart removals under the alien enemies act of 1798

00:02:33.740 supreme court had said earlier in april that deportations could proceed only if those about to be removed

00:02:40.100 had the chance to argue their case in court were given a reasonable amount of time to contest

00:02:44.920 their pending removals now folks these aren't american citizens okay i can understand if the aclu was

00:02:53.360 fighting for american citizens they're not these are illegals who are being deported out of america

00:02:59.620 and we have supreme court justices i'm not saying amy coney barrett or i'm not saying john roberts

00:03:06.860 who tend to think um who tend to think that illegals have rights here in america

00:03:11.980 it's truly disgusting and truly a disgrace and uh it makes me sick to my stomach knowing that we're

00:03:18.880 going into the supreme court now to fight for uh birthright citizenship here uh doesn't give me a

00:03:24.780 very good feeling knowing that uh that we have uh these people on the court amy coney barrett has been

00:03:30.980 an absolute disgrace to the court uh disgrace to everybody and um i think totally fooled president

00:03:37.900 trump in the first administration uh by getting her way on the court um this is what we have to deal

00:03:44.140 with now uh folks for the foreseeable future uh as she teams up with john roberts and the rest of the 0.95

00:03:50.840 liberals on the court uh also happening on this fine monday in america house oversight committee

00:03:56.980 chairman james comer has referred andrew cuomo to the doj for criminal prosecution

00:04:02.600 comer writing in a brief memo to pam bondy quote on october 30th of 2024 the select subcommittee on

00:04:09.700 the coronavirus pandemic referred former governor andrew cuomo over the state of new york for making

00:04:15.400 criminally false statements in violation of 18 usc 1001 to our knowledge the biden administration

00:04:22.080 ignored the referral despite clear facts and evidence accordingly request that you review

00:04:26.640 this referral and take appropriate action we reference the referral is attached to this letter

00:04:32.460 great on james comer and that just happening um just a few hours ago uh not even out of the house

00:04:40.440 oversight committee folks there's infighting happening inside the marxist dem party democrats are

00:04:45.640 scrambling for a new identity congresswoman ocasio cortez alexandria or as tucker carlson likes to call her 1.00

00:04:53.360 sandy cortez is racing to fill that void in that vacuum with party rooted problems with bernie sanders 1.00

00:05:00.680 and and the left-wing populism there's going to be a real issue here coming and i'm not sure if it's

00:05:06.920 going to wait until the 2028 presidential race um sandy cortez out of new york may be looking at a primary 1.00

00:05:15.840 uh to chuck schumer not entirely sure um but it's looking as so because she's got no chance at

00:05:25.140 president um our good friend mark mitchell of rasmussen tells us and assures us by the way he was spot on

00:05:31.900 on the 2024 election with president trump's numbers uh he tells us that she's got no chance her polling is

00:05:37.580 absolutely terrible now this of course as sandy cortez and bernie sanders continue to travel around the

00:05:43.660 country on private jets and first class flights um preaching out against elon musk for being a

00:05:50.060 billionaire go figure i didn't know only billionaires flew first class apparently not because sandy and

00:05:56.040 bernie are going private and first class uh folks our guest today is the founder for priest for life

00:06:01.820 father frank pavone i asked him to join us today in light of all the information and news

00:06:06.820 um breaking today inside the catholic church and the passing of pope francis father it's great to

00:06:14.260 have you back with us here on the great america show i guess under you know not so good circumstances

00:06:18.740 anytime a life is lost in in this world in this country it's not something you know we celebrate of

00:06:24.060 course we celebrate the sanctity of life but um you know when they head off into their next phases of

00:06:29.220 life um you know it's uh it's out of time big loss in the church today um i want to get your

00:06:36.500 thoughts first uh on on pope francis this is a man who defrocked you of of your job and the great

00:06:44.680 work you were doing in the catholic church let's get a let a sense of that first before we go a

00:06:49.760 little bit further into the catholic church and where it's going to head yes well like you said it

00:06:54.560 is a day of mourning and we'll continue to uh as a church uh mourn the passing of the the earthly uh father

00:07:01.720 although of course jesus christ is the head of the church but the pope has a very important

00:07:06.040 responsibility right at the center of all that and like you say he you know he made some bad decisions

00:07:11.180 uh in regarding to me as is one of them although before he dismissed me from the priesthood he did

00:07:16.620 praise my work and i met with him like five times and he liked the work we were doing so there were

00:07:21.740 other forces at work there you know other people influencing him uh especially among the american

00:07:27.680 hierarchy who are sometimes more control more concerned about controlling god's work than doing god's

00:07:34.040 work and when we as a as an autonomous ministry began growing and became quite influential some

00:07:41.280 of them got nervous so you know i don't blame it all on pope francis but the but the fact of the

00:07:45.980 matter is that this you know my story is um an indication of part of the problem we've experienced in the

00:07:54.120 church over these last 12 years of pope francis and that is that there is some serious division

00:08:00.200 uh there are those within the church who are saying uh look we've got to take the faith and really fight

00:08:07.340 for it in the public square starting with pro-life but also confront the culture of the woke transgender

00:08:13.960 ideology and be firm about that no matter who's going to be offended in the process now pope francis

00:08:20.760 was coming from the point of view of saying well you know we went we have to care for everybody and let

00:08:25.420 them know that the church is about more than our message on abortion and sexuality well of course it

00:08:32.240 is but if you contradict or or neglect those messages you're also not being true to who you

00:08:38.200 are as the church so there's a delicate balance here but in trying to make others feel welcomed

00:08:44.180 he also made those of us who are holding on to the faith and teaching it and professing it at the cost

00:08:50.600 sometimes a great sacrifice he made us feel that we were not being affirmed or or even acknowledged

00:08:56.940 at times so that's where that's the dilemma that we we've lived through and you know there have been

00:09:01.700 certain movements within the church like the traditional latin mass movement that pope francis

00:09:07.140 has just basically pushed to the side and it's been very hurtful uh many others you know what like when he did

00:09:14.460 what he did not just to me but bishop strickland archbishop vigano it's like what is this i mean

00:09:20.600 after a while it was so so transparent that there was an agenda here against what people might call

00:09:28.340 the more conservative elements of the church that is a wound that is a series of decisions he made

00:09:34.920 that now have to be reversed and that is a wound that needs to be healed yeah and and he's gone on to

00:09:41.460 meet his creators and uh you know i i um you know i say he'll be judged by them you know um uh by the

00:09:50.060 almighty on how he he governed and ruled here and you know in our eyes it wasn't um exactly

00:09:56.760 ideal um you know i'm a practicing catholic father i grew up catholic schools went to one of the catholic

00:10:03.640 schools that you were a father at um and you know throughout the years i've sort of um diverted from

00:10:10.520 the catholic faith not so much the faith but from from the actual religion itself there's just so much

00:10:17.560 that has disgusted me and and and i think a lot of people uh over the last 12 or so years but dating

00:10:24.240 back even longer whether it be the cover-ups in the catholic church whether it be in embracing

00:10:30.680 transgender ideologies or train or a mass migrations of countries that don't even belong to you 0.88

00:10:37.080 um you know i visited the vatican many times and it's such a spiritual place and once you're in that

00:10:42.380 place it's like everything else on the outside doesn't matter to you and it's it's the same

00:10:47.140 feeling i get when i go to church but the catholic church has left me and i think so many other people

00:10:52.300 who don't i think the last time i had you on i had just lost my uncle to 9 11 cancer and we're sitting

00:10:58.040 in the church and this man is talking politics about loving one each other and this and yes of

00:11:03.300 course we're gonna love one each other but then goes into no matter where you come from no matter what

00:11:08.040 you believe and we're like you know we just lost our uncle we lost a brother we lost a father we lost

00:11:13.860 a son and you're sitting here talking politics uh i was talking with mark simone the other day a great

00:11:20.120 new york city radio host and i said there's very few places where you should be able to go where you

00:11:24.200 don't have to worry about politics a sporting event and church are among two that you know hit off the

00:11:30.820 top of my head where everyone can love each other agree on something and not have to deal with it but

00:11:35.940 i think we've we've veered so far past that that it scares me can we ever come back to the true

00:11:41.680 message of god and i think that the blame for this rests with the left and and i say that because

00:11:48.420 you know the positions they've taken have been not just this not just disagreements about policy

00:11:56.400 but disagreements about principle underneath all the policies there are certain principles that

00:12:03.540 we should not disagree on the sanctity of life the meaning of freedom the fact that if we're here

00:12:10.980 in america america is good and and the fact that a man is a man a woman is a woman and these are truths

00:12:17.540 that people can't change by their own choice and i would add to that a baby in the womb is a baby

00:12:21.900 you can't change that by your own choice now these are principles the left has gone so far

00:12:28.320 in attacking systematically and they don't even hide the fact that they attack faith freedom family

00:12:36.460 marriage god pro-life america itself that's why even these places that should be neutral on politics

00:12:46.660 have very often lost that neutrality because it's like even when we get together for purely

00:12:53.680 non-political events we're all aware yeah well we're all aware that there are certain things that

00:13:00.160 we do all agree on and we all take for granted the left no longer takes them for granted and that's why

00:13:05.840 the split i mean we saw it in this election and i think this was a reason why we had so much success

00:13:10.760 in this last election because i'm i'm sure you heard what i heard all over the country people were

00:13:15.600 saying hey this is just a choice now between good and evil yeah it's not so much even this candidate

00:13:20.500 that candidate this party that party it's a choice between common sense and insanity so when a party

00:13:27.740 goes off into the land of insanity and into the land of evil that division cuts through everything

00:13:33.820 we've got to get back to common sense politics president trump is bringing us back to that praise

00:13:39.080 god but i think that's part of what's happening yeah you heard in this election father what they tried

00:13:44.780 to do is the democrats tried to demonize the right against the voters they tried to make abortion the

00:13:51.080 number one issue now for some people it is the number one issue but it's for more so the people

00:13:56.720 on the right who uh appreciate the sanctity of life and less for the democrats on the left but they tried

00:14:03.480 to make it they got donald trump on a debate stage and they tried to make it donald trump is coming after

00:14:08.460 your contraceptive he's coming after condoms he's coming after everything under the sun to ensure that 0.94

00:14:13.320 you can never have abortion again but it was so simple the the reversal of roe v wade was so simple

00:14:19.900 and it was so simply explained to the fact of if you live in liberal new york you can still go be a

00:14:25.820 demon and have your abortions if you're in a more conservative state they cherish the sanctity of life

00:14:31.200 and they're going to uh show that through the state laws it's very simple nobody's telling you can't

00:14:37.000 have an abortion so they tried to demonize the right and it did not work every single

00:14:43.080 poll after poll it was constantly roe v wade is the number one thing on the ballot well if that

00:14:47.840 were the number one thing on the ballot donald trump would have lost right because he is pro-life so if

00:14:53.600 it did come down to that donald trump would have lost it was a lie it was something the media ran with

00:14:58.360 and it was something the media uh tried to use against us they lost they lost this election uh and

00:15:04.080 they lost uh the abortion battle you had mentioned something there's some things that are just

00:15:09.840 fundamentally black and white right right and left whatever you want to call it okay and uh abortion

00:15:16.680 is one of them right you're either pro-abortion or anti-abortion there's no way that you're somehow

00:15:21.540 in between you cannot be a practicing catholic or a practicing man of faith and somehow agree with

00:15:28.200 abortion they just do not mix that's right are we on the same page of that somehow we see these democrats

00:15:34.060 we saw joe biden going to church i don't understand what's even the point of going to church

00:15:38.340 if you believe that you can pull a baby out of the womb yeah well the only way they can get away 1.00

00:15:44.300 with that in the eyes of many americans is that they fail to say the last phrase that you just said

00:15:49.180 they'll they'll bring abortion front and center they'll use the word but then they'll talk about

00:15:53.940 everything but abortion have you ever heard biden or kamala harris or any of these democrats describe

00:16:00.580 an abortion how it's done you know they talk about oh i'm gonna exercise my choice they never describe

00:16:04.900 what the choice is oh we're gonna have the abortion procedure not only available but paid for by

00:16:09.520 taxpayers but they never describe how the procedure works or what it is that the doctor takes out of

00:16:14.240 the woman on the other end of that plastic tube or those forceps and that's why uh what you're saying 0.96

00:16:19.740 is true we who put abortion first in the sense of hey if we can't defend the right to life we can't

00:16:25.160 defend any other right either we're actually talking about the issue that we're bringing forward

00:16:29.800 they bring forward the issue and then they don't talk about it at all that just shows that

00:16:33.920 they're on the wrong side of it they're afraid to describe what they defend so um very accurate

00:16:39.300 what you're saying they did lose on this they tried to energize their base because after all it was the

00:16:43.840 only issue that they felt they could talk about they needed to distract the american people from what

00:16:48.540 was going on on the border uh from the the economy uh the failures on the international stage so

00:16:54.480 embarrassing i mean biden uh uh just did so much damage and not just biden the whole democrat party

00:17:00.660 uh so they tried to put their eggs in the abortion basket and like you said it did not work

00:17:06.340 no pun intended i mean it's uh it's truly sickening to even look at these people i don't understand how

00:17:12.920 they wake up every morning father and they look themselves in the mirror i don't think any of them

00:17:17.240 own mirrors because if they did they would be sick to their stomachs looking at what they look like

00:17:21.860 these you've probably spoken to a lot of politicians and whenever i talk to a politician which i don't

00:17:26.920 have as many politicians on this show as i used to i maybe have three or four that i reach out to who

00:17:31.560 i truly cherish one of them congressman tim birch of the great state of tennessee has become a really

00:17:36.020 good friend of mine but there's very few of them i don't think these people wake up in the morning

00:17:40.180 father and look at themselves in the in the eyes and look at themselves in the face because they

00:17:44.060 wouldn't like what they see these people are pure programmatic and it's not just people on the left

00:17:48.400 it's people on the right as well programmatic and and they're like bots they they you know they they

00:17:54.920 they're like barely alive you know they're owned and bought a lot of them all owned and bought by

00:18:00.380 you know major corporations uh going to the abortion battle i mean look at how much big pharma

00:18:06.420 and these companies that perform abortions and contraceptives look at how much they donate to

00:18:11.440 these politicians can you imagine if we got that out of politics and and we stuck to the issue maybe

00:18:17.900 these people would say what they truly believe on the inside what do you think well you know you bring up

00:18:23.360 a point that is uh more profound than probably a lot of our listeners are realizing right now when

00:18:29.100 you talk about that mirror because i work with a lot of psychologists and psychiatrists as we uh carry

00:18:36.380 out our ministry of healing people from the wounds of abortion right so now what does this have to do

00:18:41.320 with politics the folks on the left that we're talking about who are pushing abortion but not just that

00:18:47.380 they're pushing open borders now you think you know how people often ask when these among you know 0.94

00:18:52.220 like us commentators on these issues they say well what's the problem here is are they so ignorant or 0.79

00:18:57.760 are they evil or is it both because there's no third alternative you're either so just excuse the term 1.00

00:19:05.040 just so stupid or you will really know what you're doing and you're and you're just plain evil and i think 0.99

00:19:11.040 it's a combination of the two but when you're like that you know deep down okay unless you're 1.00

00:19:17.320 completely crazy you know deep down that what you're choosing what you're advocating is evil

00:19:22.800 and destructive so what does that mean that means now that you are angry and ashamed of yourself

00:19:30.280 but these people can't afford to be angry at themselves because then they'll just collapse and

00:19:37.460 you know despair and whatnot so they have to displace their anger they got to be angry at someone else

00:19:43.060 they need a bad guy and guess who who who they've chosen donald j trump that's why we say you know

00:19:49.100 trump derangement syndrome this is not just a a funny way of us criticizing them although it is kind

00:19:55.700 of fun and you know i like those little uh you know those memes of the you know the the anti-trump

00:20:01.180 derangement syndrome drugs and you know it has the symptoms and the dosages and the side effects

00:20:06.140 and it's a lot of fun to talk about this but the reason it's funny and fun is that it's true and

00:20:12.920 there really is a trump derangement syndrome and it has a lot to do with what you just said it's true

00:20:17.620 they literally cannot look themselves in the mirror because then they would be too angry with themselves

00:20:22.020 so they got to displace that anger onto someone else and that explains how these people continue to

00:20:28.340 behave the way they behave hate the way they hate and at the same time press on issues that are so

00:20:35.560 radically disconnected from the american voters that it's just putting them in deeper and deeper

00:20:39.520 into a hole where they're not going to be able to win any more elections at all and as far as we're

00:20:44.540 concerned that's just fine with us right yeah and the only way to win them is steal them now politics

00:20:48.940 but we'll just go with that no there is a mental health crisis in america and the democrats are

00:20:54.720 massively uh to blame for it and and a massive part of it

00:20:58.320 i want to go back to uh pope francis yeah got you on here uh you had mentioned um archbishop uh vegano

00:21:12.440 and he had put out a statement today where he says quote he will have to account for the crimes

00:21:18.640 he has committed that's a very powerful statement from archbishop carlo vegano who a man who was

00:21:24.680 um persecuted against like you what do you think he means by that he has been very very um clear

00:21:32.780 first of all about the the the pope's duty to teach the faith and the fact that he hasn't done so pope

00:21:39.760 francis has said things which confuse the faithful which depart from the you know what what what the

00:21:46.940 normal person in the pews i'm not talking about all these theological nuances you know he can write

00:21:51.220 chapter after chapter oh what i meant was this and it's technically that but people in the pews that's

00:21:57.100 not what you're how you're called to lead them you speak the truth clearly so that as soon as they hear

00:22:01.500 it it resonates with them they know that it's the truth and he's done just the opposite so archbishop

00:22:06.060 vegano is is very concerned about that he's very concerned about uh how the pope was uh being you know

00:22:12.520 buying into this world uh globalism ethic uh movements like climate change it's no it's not by

00:22:19.140 accident that someone like a pope is going to stand up and say oh how important the climate

00:22:23.900 change issue is and i think you know archbishop vegano is saying what do you mean the climate

00:22:27.960 change it's a myth this is this is this is insane but there's an underlying reason uh it goes back to 0.92

00:22:34.920 the question before you know are you ignorant or are you evil there is a world coalition of those who 0.82

00:22:41.100 are pressing on issues like this because they want to reshape the world they don't want self-governing 0.98

00:22:45.900 uh republics like we see you know uh movements springing up not only in america but around the

00:22:51.780 world in different nations uh they they don't like nationalism they don't like national boundaries

00:22:56.500 national identity tradition the constitution and so vegano looks at pope francis and says he's part of

00:23:04.040 that whole very deliberate conspiracy and then of course when he says crimes i i believe he's also

00:23:10.980 talking about and i've i've had the privilege to to talk to the archbishop about these things uh we've

00:23:16.400 known each other for years um he talks about how the weaponization of government is not just something

00:23:23.300 that's been conducted by the deep state in american politics it's being conducted by what the archbishop

00:23:29.360 calls the deep church and the weaponization of church government is what we see in examples like

00:23:36.120 what the pope did to him to our to bishop strickland and to me uh so it is using procedures that

00:23:44.100 otherwise they have a legitimate purpose but inventing you know crimes that you never committed

00:23:50.020 you know inventing complaints that that have no substance and it's like the old communist line you know

00:23:56.380 show me the man and i'll show you the crime oh we need to sideline this guy so let's make up some

00:24:01.500 excuse and then use the processes of church government to sideline them this this all of

00:24:07.580 these things together uh are what i believe the archbishop is uh is talking about he'd also put

00:24:13.020 out this message i'm not sure if you saw on twitter uh in 2018 eugenio slafari who was an italian

00:24:18.320 journalist uh reported that the words of bergoglio's pope francis supposedly confided in him about the

00:24:24.460 vision of afterlife quote sinful souls are not punished those who repent to pay god forgiveness and join the

00:24:30.900 ranks of souls who contemplate him but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear

00:24:36.800 there is no hell sinful souls simply disappear now go against the exact teaching of the catholic

00:24:45.980 faith yes it does it goes against the very words of jesus i mean jesus spoke about hell not just as a

00:24:52.640 possibility but as a future reality there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth he will say to those

00:24:58.800 those on his left depart from me you wicked go to the eternal fire that's been prepared for you

00:25:04.340 jesus didn't speak about hell just as a theoretical possibility but an actual reality that some people

00:25:10.760 sad to say will experience not because god rejects them but because they reject god so um where somebody

00:25:17.960 comes up with something like that see it it's sort of like this this desire to oh let's just be pleasing

00:25:24.800 to everybody let's not give everyone anything to worry about because when you take a position like

00:25:30.960 that it's like okay then what do people have to repent of and exactly why do they have to repent

00:25:37.260 and this was another big concern during the papacy of pope francis that some theologians and other church

00:25:43.340 leaders raised this is you know you're talking about god's forgiveness yes we have to talk more and more

00:25:48.420 and more about god's forgiveness but you you don't get forgiveness unless you repent if you're still

00:25:53.940 holding on to your sin what you're saying by holding on to it is that you don't want forgiveness

00:25:59.100 you want to keep sinning those two things are incompatible and so many would say myself included

00:26:04.940 that while we applaud his his his emphasis on god's mercy we question you know why aren't you saying more

00:26:13.300 about what's necessary to to obtain that mercy the repentance of our sins and he doesn't want to say

00:26:20.060 he doesn't want to say that to the gay uh and lesbian uh uh people who are living that lifestyle

00:26:25.340 and the transgender people and i i mean and this is where again without judging the the pope uh it's

00:26:33.960 like you look at the effects and and say you know people are just they're scratching their heads and

00:26:38.600 they're saying what you just said that doesn't sound like the teachings of the church or of the

00:26:42.140 scriptures yeah it definitely leaves a stain on the catholic church i was reading this article maybe

00:26:46.840 i do my daily morning read i read for about four hours a morning and i read the daily mail every

00:26:52.240 day and maybe a few months ago i came across an article about a man who had died and came back to

00:26:57.500 life three times and he talks about in this article i'll send it to you after this uh he went to heaven

00:27:03.760 and hell and he explains meeting jesus in heaven uh i mean it's a true story from his account meeting jesus

00:27:13.140 and jesus told him you know go be a good man and go back to earth and he says it's happened to him

00:27:18.100 three times uh to me i mean that's just crazy but you know i mean are we not to believe a man who tells

00:27:24.620 a story it's um a truly remarkable um how do you go go ahead and god can give people if you choose so

00:27:32.060 chooses those experiences precisely so that they can strengthen the faith of the rest of us i think that

00:27:38.920 would terrify the heck out of me yeah um uh you know you know what it it if you're at peace you

00:27:46.760 know you're at peace um i want to talk about the catholic church and how uh before we get to how we

00:27:52.900 can save the catholic church your role in the catholic church right now will you personally seek to re

00:27:59.120 now i'm not suggesting by any way you've lost your faith because obviously you haven't but will you

00:28:04.400 seek to maybe reintegrate back into the catholic church and and the teachings on on the you know

00:28:11.380 a broad scale yes in other words what you're referring to is whether i can function as a priest

00:28:16.940 again wear the collar right instead of just this shirt uh say the mass publicly i'm allowed to say it

00:28:23.180 privately but uh to publicly minister as a priest that's what pope francis uh took away from me and yes

00:28:30.020 it certainly is something that can be done and it's something that i will request once the new pope

00:28:34.980 is in place in a few weeks uh and to do that i simply have to it's simply a request it's not like

00:28:40.880 some long drawn out process uh we had the long drawn out process already it led pope francis to uh to say

00:28:48.420 you know of course now i'm still a part of the catholic church i'm still you know a catholic in good

00:28:53.260 standing i can you know receive the sacraments and i do but uh we're and and and as you also know

00:29:00.420 i'm still continuing my public pro-life work just like i've been doing for the last 32 years except

00:29:04.960 without the without you know the saying of mass or things like that so um so so so a lot has remained

00:29:12.420 the same for me but of course it's a big deal if a priest is told he can't be a priest so yes that is

00:29:18.440 something i will ask to be re uh reinstated and i believe that that's what will happen because i

00:29:23.720 think that any pope who has uh you know any measure of objectivity and looking at what was done to me

00:29:29.800 it really was the weaponization of church government and i've told the story publicly many times it's out

00:29:35.320 on my website but uh you know i was lied to i was lied about i was you know it was one of those things

00:29:41.400 where you know just like you see what they did to president trump and his his followers you know

00:29:46.220 where you say oh you have to do a b and c but it's they don't make clear what their concern is

00:29:51.180 and then when you try to do a b and c they move the goal post and it it's just a game you know you

00:29:56.720 you can't you can't negotiate with these people um but now with new leadership we'll see what happens

00:30:02.460 i'll certainly knock on the door and make the request to me it's totally asinine the fact that

00:30:07.400 you've had and this is in conjecture this is fact you've had and one of them passed away

00:30:12.140 recently cardinal mccarrick i believe is his name yeah man who has been accused back to the 80s

00:30:17.120 and i've done a lot of research on this man and i've had people on the show talking about this man

00:30:21.240 this is a man you go back to the 80s has been accused of pedophilia in the catholic church

00:30:25.180 and has been swept under the rug and under the rug and he's become a friend of joe biden he just

00:30:29.680 passed away i believe a month ago an evil evil man who was allowed to practice under the catholic

00:30:36.680 church was allowed to go off into the sunset under his own uh being yeah you have a man like father

00:30:42.180 frank pavone who was uh persecuted for literally uh uh going out and preaching the word of god i mean

00:30:49.920 make that make sense please please please i would love to hear the explanation because

00:30:56.060 even though i've lived this for for the last few decades i don't know i really don't know that

00:31:02.040 well you know why i don't know because there is no reason there's there's no like you say it's

00:31:06.020 insanity it really is

00:31:07.260 let's turn to the future of the catholic church and where we go from here um about a billion and

00:31:20.600 a half people are uh quote unquote practicing catholics um the catholic church as we we said

00:31:28.060 in the first segment here uh it has left in my opinion has left so many people um scratching their

00:31:34.100 head looking for new religion i mean people have branched off into christianity and to methodists

00:31:39.340 and and all the different uh teachings of god uh to leave the catholic faith because of of of how

00:31:46.400 uh left and how wrong you know they've led they've led all of us first of all who is your pick now if you

00:31:55.560 without getting political i guess if we can who would you like to see run the vatican next

00:32:01.600 you know i would love to see an african pope i think there are a lot of african cardinals

00:32:06.940 cardinal robert sarah is one of them who you know they're very very uh clear and direct in their

00:32:13.280 teaching but in in a very loving way they're so effective and you know they're less affected by the

00:32:19.240 politics of you know europe and america and and some of these things that have affected the church in

00:32:24.940 a negative way so that would be wonderful i mean i have no inside uh knowledge of who's in favor who's

00:32:32.580 not i mean the cardinals themselves i don't think they know they're going to have to do a lot of

00:32:35.940 talking with each other over these coming days and figure out who what you know how the consensus is

00:32:40.740 going to emerge but uh an african cardinal i think would be good for the church for everyone who's not

00:32:46.080 familiar with the process i mean it's been 12 years a little over i guess a little over 12 since the

00:32:50.140 process started last time it's truly a fascinating you don't have to be a catholic or you know you

00:32:55.220 could be a muslim you could be the whole process is just so fascinating and the way that it's gone 0.98

00:33:00.760 about and the old school ritual are you are you familiar with the process that you could tell the

00:33:05.540 audience because i am fascinated by it but you can probably explain it better than i well of course now

00:33:10.940 we're in a period of of mourning there are there are nine days uh and sometimes it goes longer than

00:33:16.740 that uh that are set aside to simply make the transition to bid bid farewell uh to pope francis

00:33:23.520 and have all the ceremonies that go with that and then the funeral and the burial then the cardinals

00:33:28.520 so the cardinals of the church a couple of hundred of them uh are specially appointed to be close advisors

00:33:34.900 to the pope and one of their key responsibilities is to elect a new pope and normally they elect the pope

00:33:43.000 from among their own number so one of the existing cardinals will be chosen as the next pope they gather

00:33:49.400 together for a secret meeting called a conclave and they do it right there in the vatican in fact

00:33:54.960 they meet in the in the sistine chapel which i'm sure many of our viewers have seen and um and they will

00:34:01.320 take as many days as they need to take sometimes it only takes a day and a half sometimes it might go

00:34:06.700 a little bit longer but they'll have these deliberations and they'll take these votes

00:34:11.400 and they'll decide on a new pope uh the process is not um the same as uh i mean there are political

00:34:18.840 elements to it obviously it's not quite the same as american politics they don't like run for office

00:34:24.960 you know in fact they're forbidden you know i'm sure some of them do it anyway but they're forbidden

00:34:29.680 from you know what we would call campaigning or electioneering hey vote for me and if i become pope

00:34:35.220 i'm gonna do this for you you know that's forbidden uh and they can be punished if that if in fact they

00:34:40.560 they get caught doing that but um uh no they'll they'll they'll gather together and they'll have

00:34:45.840 those deliberations and then they'll announce to the world who their choice is and you know the

00:34:50.060 meeting is so secret you know that there's no like communication into the room or out from the room

00:34:55.900 uh they communicate in a very old-fashioned way with smoke coming out of the smokestack

00:35:01.360 of the sistine chapel and if the smoke is is gray it means they haven't decided yet

00:35:06.400 or if it's black i should say they haven't decided if it's white that means we've decided

00:35:11.940 and in a little while we're going to come out on the balcony and we're going to tell you who we chose

00:35:15.520 and and my understanding is uh that smoke is the burned ballots right yes yes and and and one year

00:35:22.380 i forget what pope it was that was being elected but the news the news came on and they showed the

00:35:27.240 smoke coming out of the the sistine uh chapel there and they're looking at it and they said well

00:35:33.120 ladies and gentlemen the smoke is definitely gray some of the residue i guess were left in there from

00:35:42.180 the black so it was definitely gray but uh no it's it's funny you know there's something uh charming

00:35:48.100 about the way they do this you know it takes these very very ancient i mean this has been going on for

00:35:53.320 two thousand years and uh i think certain details of it change as as time goes on but the catholic

00:35:58.560 church is one of the oldest uh living vibrant institutions uh in the world and um it's intriguing

00:36:06.840 it really is i'm sure the election's very secure it's done via paper ballot and i'm sure there's no

00:36:12.160 rigging and machines used to uh to to cast their votes to make sure it works and it's not a secret

00:36:18.880 ballot either these men have to announce it in front of all the other cardinals i am i hear and

00:36:24.500 it's a solemn formula by the way they stand up and they say in the presence of god and and you know

00:36:30.320 it's like a solemn oath i declare that i truly believe that the best choice for pope is so and so

00:36:37.900 and they say the name and then they put the ballot in the box uh and it's uh yeah it's it's an

00:36:43.220 interesting system now how many people is it among about 140 or so that you can't as i said before

00:36:51.120 there's a couple of hundred cardinals but a lot of them are over 80 years old so if you're over 80 you

00:36:57.300 can't participate in the conclave but you have lost the right to actually vote in the process they cut

00:37:03.380 it off at age 80 so among those who are voting i think it's something like 130 140 uh that'll that'll

00:37:10.840 that'll vote and like i say they choose someone from among their own ranks so it can be one of the

00:37:16.080 130 that that they they nominate yep very big very big pool of people uh like i said the process is so

00:37:23.420 so uh fascinating to me not even just as a catholic but uh you know as a she has a human being um i want

00:37:30.580 to turn to once this person this man is is uh elected i pray to god it's it's someone who's either

00:37:40.720 apolitical or someone who doesn't believe in everything that pope francis believed in

00:37:45.860 no no climate change people we don't want right right no no border warriors no immigration warriors

00:37:53.740 none of these do you think we can get the catholic church back on track to where it was you know 20

00:38:00.920 years ago but reformed of course because it definitely uh needs some reforming uh as for some of the things

00:38:06.780 we've spoken about can we get it back on track yes i think so and there are two levels uh to think

00:38:12.420 about this on one from a supernatural level and we we are we are both again believers in the catholic

00:38:18.840 faith we truly believe that the church was established by jesus and is guided by the holy

00:38:23.440 spirit now that doesn't mean that that there aren't really bad leaders who do really bad things we've been

00:38:28.360 talking about that uh but it does mean that at its core that jesus and the holy spirit will never

00:38:34.040 allow the entire church to go completely off the track you know where we were to no longer believe

00:38:40.420 in the gospel for example um the church is is is secure in that even if a lot of the people that

00:38:48.120 doesn't mean that even a lot of the people won't fall away from the faith or you know but we do see

00:38:53.440 also a vibrancy within the church uh these days of people rediscovering the faith young people coming

00:38:59.000 back to the faith and so forth so on a supernatural level uh we're confident that god keeps the church

00:39:05.860 on the track but just on a human political level i'm hopeful that the change we've seen in america

00:39:14.160 this was a drastic uh change in this this last election people are sick and tired of the uh the woke

00:39:21.480 agenda we've seen this haven't we in other countries too that have had elections that have brought forth

00:39:27.800 wonderful conservative leaders i think this is a sign of the times i think this is a sign of something

00:39:34.880 that's bubbling up within humanity all across the globe and because the same people who are going

00:39:42.100 into these voting booths in america and and elsewhere are also in large measure the people who are sitting

00:39:49.300 in the pews in the churches i think we're going to also see this this this great wave go get get

00:39:57.300 manifested in the church including in this election to take place in a couple of weeks for for pope

00:40:02.400 i'm i'm i think there's reason to to think that that will happen i'm i'm confident and hopeful that

00:40:09.340 it will happen and it will be a glorious victory that that in 20 just think of it we could look back

00:40:14.880 and say in 2025 we elected a a president of the united states that literally initiated a golden era

00:40:22.940 for america and the catholic church elected a pope who's going to initiate a golden era for the church

00:40:29.980 because again we're living in the same moment of history we're living in the same the same winds that

00:40:35.560 are blowing are blowing over church believers as well as voters and and and many of us are the same

00:40:41.640 so we'll see we'll see but i'm hopeful these are my words not yours uh we can say we've defeated

00:40:48.100 marxism both in the catholic church and both in america politics uh and yes you know it i believe

00:40:55.360 we've saved america by electing donald trump and i you know i pray to god and i hope to god that we

00:40:59.780 can save the catholic church by electing somebody um worthy of the job and someone wanting to do the

00:41:05.900 job to follow the word of god and not the word of whatever european leader is talking in your ear

00:41:12.800 father frank frank mavone it's always uh insightful and and relaxing to talk to you i have to be

00:41:18.220 totally honest um you get the last word here the floor is yours whatever you want to sell whatever

00:41:22.860 you want to pitch whatever you want to say this is uh i want to i want to say to our viewers let's

00:41:29.060 join hands together and create a new era for the whole world uh embracing what the change that we've

00:41:36.700 seen in america we've got to put our feet on the gas and keep on pressing forward and let's do the

00:41:41.940 same among believers it's we cannot let our church fall to the woke culture let's all work together i

00:41:48.040 want to invite people to connect with me and with my ministry of priests for life connect with me on

00:41:53.340 social media at fr frank pavone on all the major platforms that's fr frank pavone and let's do this

00:42:00.060 work together because everyone listening to us right now has an irreplaceable role god wants to speak

00:42:06.140 through you he wants to act through you he wants to change things through you and everything we've

00:42:10.720 talked about today is is really geared towards that we want to encourage our audience uh to really

00:42:15.580 step up to the plate and do the unique role that god has called you to do so let's all do it together

00:42:20.820 let's do it with joy and let's do it with a prayerful spirit as we enter into really a new age for america

00:42:27.520 and for the church and i pray next time you you're out here in staten island you're at a church uh giving a

00:42:33.960 mass and i will be there in attendance and we'll get you back into the catholic church

00:42:38.140 that'll be a joy that'll be a joy thank you father pavone as always a pleasure to have you thank you

00:42:44.160 so much god bless you thanks to father frank pavone and thank you all folks for being with us today here

00:42:49.220 on the great america show please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for the great america show where

00:42:53.500 our quest for truth justice and the american way continues we'll see you back here tomorrow same time

00:42:58.500 same place until then may god bless you may god bless america and may god bless the great

00:43:04.020 blue dobs we'll see you tomorrow folks

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The Great America Show - April 26, 2025

The Great America Saturday Show： April 26, 2025

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