The Great America Show - THE GREAT AMERICA SATURDAY SHOW - January 20th, 2024

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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Thanks for being with us here on the Great America Saturday

00:01:22.580 show. The corrupt Marxist jackals over at the Department of Justice issued a stern warning

00:01:28.380 this week to anyone who disobeys their orders. The DOJ announced they are seeking a prison 0.77

00:01:35.140 sentence for Trump aide Peter Navarro for refusing to comply with the J-6 committee subpoena from

00:01:42.760 Liz Cheney's sham J-6 committee, mind you. The corrupt DOJ says they want six months in prison, 1.00

00:01:49.500 a $200,000 fine for Navarro following his criminal conviction. Of course, making it all about Donald

00:01:56.900 Trump, the DOJ wrote, quote, the defendant chose allegiance to former President Donald Trump

00:02:03.240 over the rule of law, end quote. And he, quote, deserves severe punishment for it. Beware, folks,

00:02:10.760 these people at the DOJ mean to do harm, and they are not only corrupt, they're evil. It's a shame the 0.77

00:02:18.380 Republicans don't have the guts the Democrats have. Hunter Biden defied a subpoena earlier in

00:02:24.260 December doing exactly what Peter Navarro did, a contempt of Congress charge. He showed up at his

00:02:30.820 contempt hearing to make a joke of it all, mocking the Republicans to their face. And the Republicans

00:02:37.420 talked tough, but then did nothing. They said they'd hold him in contempt, but instead issued him another

00:02:42.620 subpoena, begging him to show up for this one. He did eventually oblige. Hunter, along with six of

00:02:49.440 his associates, will be sitting for closed-door depositions over the next month. The whole thing

00:02:55.080 is just a massive joke to the Marxist Dems, because the Republicans can't seem to get their act

00:03:00.800 together. Our first guest today is Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch. And Tom, great to

00:03:06.460 have you with us. It seems I always of late have to begin by congratulating you and Judicial Watch.

00:03:12.660 It's remarkable how much effort you put into it and the results you get, actually looking out for

00:03:17.960 the American people and watching this government very closely. So my thanks to you personally and

00:03:23.940 to Judicial Watch. Well, we're happy to do the work. And what's frustrating is it's not rocket science.

00:03:30.160 And we just wish more would do what we're doing, especially those in responsible positions of

00:03:37.000 government power. Well, right now, speaking truth to power is a very important thing, because

00:03:43.660 certainly the Congress is not succeeding in doing so, despite its, no question, historically low

00:03:50.300 margin of control of the House. But still, it seems the Republican Party in large measure has lost

00:04:00.240 its way when they should be at the party of the loyal opposition and doing far more than they are

00:04:04.780 doing, with the exception of the investigating committees of the of the judiciary, the oversight and

00:04:11.780 ways and means committees. It's you know, it's it's it's not it's not pleasant to watch a weak

00:04:18.360 leadership doing doing few things in my judgment correctly. Your thoughts on Mike Johnson, if I can

00:04:26.320 start there. You know, Speaker Johnson is the first conservative movement activists to be Speaker of the

00:04:32.400 House. You know, that's no small feat. So, you know, my my my instinct is to be.

00:04:40.860 You know, to give him a chance and breathing room. But, you know, as President Judicial Watch, I got to

00:04:47.960 call it as I see it. And what I see is what what in effect is a plan which has been consistent with

00:04:55.000 prior speakers to fully fund everything we hate, including the invasion of the United States, the 0.76

00:05:01.840 destruction of our Republican form of government rule of law with these targeting with these prosecutions of

00:05:10.500 President Trump and other innocents, the censorship of Americans, et cetera. And I'm not seeing any

00:05:16.320 willingness by Speaker Johnson to say I'm not going to fund X, Y or Z and pick one.

00:05:22.420 And and I understand the challenges of doing that. And maybe he doesn't succeed or not. But,

00:05:29.460 you know, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to vote for to fund Joe Biden moving millions of

00:05:36.400 legal aliens to every town in America. I just can't imagine why this has happened. And it's 0.89

00:05:41.900 consistently happened over the last year or two Republicans. The Republican controlled House has

00:05:47.080 complained. About all this illicit activity by Biden, while at the same time fully funding it now,

00:05:54.200 maybe they can square those two issues. I can't. And so I don't think they deserve an out on that.

00:06:01.140 Yeah. And I agree with you. And he goes down to the border with 60, apparently 60 representatives

00:06:06.680 in tow with him and acts as if it's the first time that he's understood that there is a crisis in the

00:06:12.080 country, even though we've had 10 to 12 million illegal immigrants brought into this country in

00:06:17.260 the course of three years from the day that Joe Biden took over. And they keep talking about two and a

00:06:22.800 half million, three million. We all know the numbers are vastly larger than that. And we also know

00:06:29.060 that this speaker then subsequently subsequent to that visit says the border is an issue we'll die on.

00:06:39.180 That isn't the way to that's I hate the rhetoric. I do, I guess, like the sentiment, but he put it in

00:06:46.460 the most negative terms possible. And by the way, every time he said anything approaching that he has

00:06:52.540 relented and withdrawn from the issue rather than going up to take that hill. So I don't know what

00:07:00.320 to make of it.

00:07:01.260 Yeah. You know, and it's not like we're getting any fiscal benefits for giving up on these policy

00:07:05.820 issues. Not that they say that they don't say they're giving up, but they're essentially setting

00:07:09.440 up a situation where it's impossible for our policy desires to pass, mainly address these crises.

00:07:17.320 I mean, it'd be one thing to say, well, we don't have the votes for a border. But I tell you,

00:07:22.060 we're cutting the budget by 20 percent because inflation is destroying the land.

00:07:26.940 So it's like I'm trying to see where the winds are here for those of us who have a conservative

00:07:32.540 outlook and are concerned about the future of the republic. And to me, we don't have any time to

00:07:37.520 waste. This is not like, oh, we can get to the border next year or we can get to the jailing of Trump

00:07:44.140 next year. Well, if you don't deal with it now, there may not be a next year, practically speaking,

00:07:50.000 in terms of being able to deal with any of this in terms of having a functioning republic.

00:07:56.480 And you couldn't be more right. And this time it is not there's just no element here of

00:08:04.400 figurative speech. With this election on November 5th, 2024, we're going to decide whether or not we

00:08:11.880 have a republic or not. I truly believe that, Tom. If Donald Trump is not reelected and in charge of

00:08:19.380 this government on January 20, 2025, this country is it will be in deep, deep and I'm afraid mortal

00:08:29.220 crisis because this is a takeover of the federal government by the Marxists. It is a takeover

00:08:35.820 following their having taken over the Democrat Party. There is nothing happening in Washington,

00:08:42.280 D.C. right now in the executive branch that is remotely positive and in the national interest

00:08:47.500 or the interest of the American people, do you think?

00:08:50.840 I mean, we've got this corruption and this abuse of power, right, which is troubling as it is.

00:08:55.800 And then you've got this collapse of the national command structure of the United States military

00:09:02.740 with Defense Secretary Austin being AWOL effectively for a week without his colleagues knowing about it,

00:09:13.980 the ones who are responsible, namely the president, the national security advisor, and his top deputy.

00:09:19.900 I mean, that that's downright scary. Well, it is scary and it's going to get scarier, folks, because

00:09:27.880 Tom Fenton, the president of Judicial Watch and are going to be talking about what Judicial Watch is

00:09:33.860 doing in addition to filing a $30 million wrongful death and negligence lawsuit against the U.S.

00:09:41.200 government on behalf of Ashley Babbitt, her estate and her and her husband.

00:09:49.180 We're going to take up all the other initiatives undertaken by Judicial Watch to try to save this

00:09:56.180 republic. Stay with us. We're coming right back.

00:09:58.920 Lou Dobbs here. I'm delighted to let you all know that the program Lou Dobbs Tonight has returned to the air.

00:10:09.900 That's right. Lou Dobbs Tonight is back.

00:10:12.900 We're live each and every weeknight at 7 p.m. Eastern and 6 p.m. Central on Rumble.com slash Lou Dobbs.

00:10:22.680 That's Rumble.com slash Lou Dobbs.

00:10:25.800 I hope you'll be joining us for Lou Dobbs Tonight as our fight to save this country has only begun.

00:10:38.520 We're back now. We're talking with Judicial Watch's Tom Fenton.

00:10:42.760 And Tom, the lawsuit that you filed against the U.S. government on behalf of Ashley Babbitt,

00:10:48.740 it is stunning to me that not a single legislator, representative of the House or Senate,

00:10:57.080 anyone has taken up her cause over this time since January 6th.

00:11:03.460 And thank you for doing so. And the information that you've already developed and revealed in your the papers and filings that you've made,

00:11:13.280 I think, will astonish most Americans, don't you?

00:11:16.600 Yeah, I think it's troubling. You know, I think it's troubling not only as president of Judicial Watch,

00:11:21.180 but as a citizen who's obviously watched this, as other Americans have.

00:11:25.580 It's a $30 million wrongful death lawsuit for Aaron Babbitt, her widower and her state.

00:11:32.340 And it shows that Lieutenant Michael Byrd, the U.S. Capitol Police officer who worked for Congress,

00:11:37.660 that the defendant is the federal government. You know, he's a federal employee in the end.

00:11:42.000 And, you know, shot her without justification. And I've talked to you about this before, Lewis.

00:11:50.300 I've watched the video repeatedly for obvious reasons. And forget about the lawsuit and all that.

00:11:56.640 Just personally watching it time and time again. The first thing I think is, I can't believe he shot her.

00:12:03.140 I can't believe he shot her. I just can't believe it.

00:12:07.280 And certainly any police officer or honest law enforcement official or, frankly, you know, alert citizen would see that's not a right, correct shooting.

00:12:20.500 So we know the rules were all broken that the U.S. Capitol Police had by Byrd in that shooting.

00:12:26.340 We know separately that after he shot her, he issued a call on the radio, shots fired, shots fired, and suggested shots were being fired at him,

00:12:38.520 when in fact he was the only person who shot. So what was he doing then?

00:12:42.280 Was he trying to create a cover or just further highlights the impropriety of what he had done?

00:12:48.820 And then, of course, he had a record suggesting he should have been nowhere near that situation.

00:12:52.340 By the way, he was incident commander there.

00:12:56.680 So he was one of the top security officials in the House that day.

00:13:02.160 And he had left his loaded weapon in a bathroom in the Capitol Visitor Center,

00:13:07.280 which is the major way visitors and tourists and such enter the U.S. Capitol complex.

00:13:13.740 I don't know how long you lost a gun for, but it was found by someone else.

00:13:16.980 And then, secondly, he shot at his own car because it looks like some juveniles were trying to steal it.

00:13:23.340 And, you know, that was a crazy shoot, too.

00:13:25.520 Bullets went all over by the account we understand happened.

00:13:31.560 So it was a horrible situation.

00:13:35.720 And Ashley Babbitt was needlessly killed.

00:13:37.820 And because her death and the reality of it was harmful to the last January 6th narrative,

00:13:48.000 Lieutenant Byrd wasn't held accountable.

00:13:50.360 He wasn't criminally prosecuted.

00:13:52.740 I don't know whether, you know, whether he should have been or not.

00:13:55.460 We can't trust the Justice Department to have considered it fairly.

00:13:58.280 That's for sure.

00:13:59.280 Under Joe Biden.

00:14:00.180 And then separately, the U.S. Capitol Police, you know, the Pelosi operation there had no interest in holding him accountable either administratively.

00:14:10.220 So it's up to us to do this through this lawsuit.

00:14:12.880 And, you know, Ashley deserves justice. 0.99

00:14:14.920 And so that's what we're trying to achieve here.

00:14:17.020 And good for you.

00:14:18.420 And I think you're exactly right.

00:14:20.960 There's more at work here, though, than simply a tragic shooting and a misunderstanding about various aspects of it.

00:14:31.160 You know, I did not realize he had sent out that radio call until I read your filings that it had occurred.

00:14:38.220 That within one minute of that shooting, he is coming up with a fictional cover saying shots fired and he's prepared to to fire in return.

00:14:54.040 I mean, that's a bizarre thing to have happened.

00:14:56.760 But it is also you don't have to be, you know, to me, you don't have to be a very diligent or brilliant detective to say, you know, that looks like somebody's trying to cover something up.

00:15:12.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:13.240 And then you go through, as you said, and as you go through this, he's put in a the distinguished visitors suite at Andrew's Air Force Base.

00:15:25.480 I mean, this is designed for military, high military officers, and he's there not for a night, not for two nights, and not for any ostensible reason other than to keep him out of public view.

00:15:38.220 And he's there for six months for crying out loud.

00:15:42.080 Is there any explanation for that other than they wanted to keep him out of the public view and hide him from the media?

00:15:50.420 Yeah, it's it's incredible.

00:15:52.760 I remember we didn't even know what his name was, what his identity was, you know, what his name was until months after the shooting.

00:16:02.360 I mean, some folks had guessed who he was, but that was an official, you know, so you didn't know.

00:16:06.440 And and it was clear his identity was they tried to hide because if his identity became known, this other background information we were able to uncover.

00:16:18.040 And certainly there is a story well known about him leaving the gun behind wouldn't have been helpful.

00:16:23.540 So they tried to stall as long as they could.

00:16:27.240 And, you know, again, you don't have to be a detective, as you say, you don't have to be a police officer or a law enforcement official.

00:16:35.680 We've all seen how we handle police shootings in this day and age, right?

00:16:40.480 Whether they're justified or seemingly unjustified, you don't want to be, you know, if you holster, if you unholster your gun and fire it and your police officer, you can you can expect significant investigation that did not occur for Lieutenant Byrd.

00:16:55.580 It simply did not occur.

00:16:57.840 And he was given a kid gloves treatment in a way no other officer would have been.

00:17:05.320 And, you know, given the obvious circumstances of the shooting, he should have faced a severe sanction.

00:17:13.280 Coming next, the Federal Aviation Administration wants to hire disabled people to work at the agency.

00:17:18.980 Nothing off the table, says the FAA.

00:17:21.120 They're recruiting blind and deaf people, people with mental disabilities, psychological disabilities.

00:17:27.600 Conservative author and scholar Heather McDonald joins us here next.

00:17:31.340 Stay with us right here on The Great America Show.

00:17:39.800 Joining us now is Heather McDonald.

00:17:41.700 Her latest book is When Race Trumps Merit, How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens Lives.

00:17:50.300 Heather, great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.

00:17:53.460 I appreciate you so much.

00:17:55.120 Everything that you do, your voice is critically important to this country.

00:17:59.460 I just want to know what you think of what is happening right now, the Marxist left, the Marxist Dems, outdoing themselves, using diversity as an excuse to put in the FAA people with serious psychiatric problems, mental disabilities.

00:18:14.340 This is deeply disturbing.

00:18:16.080 Your thoughts?

00:18:16.640 Well, people have to be, summon the courage to say that standards are not racist, they're not sexist, they're not classist, they're not, you know, anti-disabilist.

00:18:31.480 Colorblind, neutral standards are the way that a civilization saves itself, improves itself, saves people from premature death through poverty and squalor.

00:18:43.640 And yet, we are so terrified to speak about the, in the case of race diversity, to speak about the massive academic skills gaps that prevent the facile attainment of diversity under neutral colorblind standards,

00:19:05.640 Americans turn their eyes away because they are so well-meaning, they believe in racial etiquette, and they don't want to take, bring attention to the pathological inner city culture that is resulting in massive academic skills gaps. 0.64

00:19:33.200 And instead, they're willing to put their own lives at risk through things like telling the FAA that it's more important that they get diverse flight controllers than ones who have the skills, the academic skills, the IQ, the motor coordination to handle keeping planes safe in the air rather than crashing into each other.

00:19:57.800 In the name of diversity, in the name of diversity, for crying out loud, it's, it boggles the mind, it is, it's just impossible to understand how we've gotten to this position in our society, in our culture, in our politics.

00:20:14.860 And I have to say, right now, as we're watching the caucuses unfold in Iowa, and a selection of a president, I hope it's an election of a president, I should say, an election of a president.

00:20:31.800 And we have a group of people, the Democrat Party is now the Marxist Party in this country.

00:20:39.120 And we have people who just don't want to acknowledge that.

00:20:42.180 They don't want to acknowledge that everything we saw over the course of the past couple of months at MIT, UPenn, at Harvard, Cornell, we're watching a, these are indoctrination factories.

00:20:58.800 In matter of fact, I mean, they're a left wing scam.

00:21:02.520 They're, they're a program to subsidize left wing Marxist professors and give them an assured income and sinecure that will keep them sustained.

00:21:17.100 It has nothing to do really with education.

00:21:19.520 It's about student loans.

00:21:20.720 It's about these, these ridiculous demands of D, I, C, R, T, you name it.

00:21:27.080 But I really think that higher education right now is a, is a scam for the left.

00:21:33.520 It absolutely is.

00:21:34.800 It's a combination of deliberate mediocrity and deliberate propaganda.

00:21:42.520 You know, there's another aspect of universities that the right doesn't really talk enough about,

00:21:47.600 which is that they have grown so bloated.

00:21:50.620 They are, they are simply machines to try and get as many warm bodies on, you know, first year seats who then are going to mostly drop out because, because these students who've been recruited through this incredibly obsessive effort on the part of university bureaucrats.

00:22:10.520 They've got, they've got, they're, they're like these capitalist machines.

00:22:13.200 They've got yield specialists and, and retention specialists, uh, all trying to just be like hucksters selling snake oil to get these students in.

00:22:24.740 They don't care whether they're capable or not.

00:22:27.000 All they want is that first year deposit, uh, to, so they can have a, a bigger budget in order to hire more bureaucrats. 0.89

00:22:37.020 Um, and the degree of bureaucracy that is all dedicated to the fact that students are not prepared.

00:22:44.560 We have far too many people going to college, far too many.

00:22:47.620 But the, the, the liberal assumption, and sometimes also, I'm sad to say, the conservative assumption is that unless you have a college degree, your life is basically over.

00:22:59.420 You will live a life of, of, you know, thwarted ambition, thwarted capacity.

00:23:06.220 You will never be able to develop yourself to your full potential.

00:23:09.880 That's completely wrong.

00:23:11.200 There are so many professions, occupations, skills that have nothing to do with what has become, in most cases, totally bogus degrees.

00:23:23.760 I mean, a, a degree in marketing, you should not go to college for a degree in marketing.

00:23:29.160 You should go to college if you want to study the classics.

00:23:32.980 If you want to read Aeschylus and Euripides and, and Sophocles and the great works of philosophy, of, of Western literature, of art, if you want to study very demanding science, you should not be doing, you know, some pseudo, uh, communications degree.

00:23:53.100 But this is simply so that these colleges can continue expanding their student body.

00:23:59.280 And the right has to start speaking very clearly, Lou, about the dignity and beauty of, of crafts.

00:24:07.880 And part of the reason why we don't talk about, uh, hands-on skills is because males are more inclined to, to figure things out, to want to work with machines, to tinker, to develop.

00:24:21.920 And we are living in an anti-male culture right now.

00:24:25.280 Now, females are much more obedient, docile, you know, they're taking over the universities, uh, both in student body and faculty and in administration. 1.00

00:24:34.340 And so we want to perpetuate something that, that females, up to a certain point, do better than males. 0.76

00:24:41.100 Now, at the absolute top end of math skills, of STEM skills, uh, males still trounce females. 0.96

00:24:49.080 But, uh, at the average level, females are better at sitting in seats and, you know, writing their, their, their mostly empty verbiage papers. 1.00

00:24:59.280 Um, but, but colleges are, are absolutely, uh, a betrayal of what they should be at this point.

00:25:06.820 And, and, and again, I'm not even getting to the ideology that made the pro-Hamas mass collective outbreak of psychosis, of supporting terrorists, an absolute inevitability, Lou.

00:25:20.780 Yeah, I, I think you're exactly right.

00:25:23.040 I really do.

00:25:24.220 Because you, you, I mean, there are a host of issues contributing factors to all of this.

00:25:29.120 But the reality is that you've got so many of these young people on college and university campuses who really don't have a, a, a, a study path, uh, a concentration, a major, uh, there, and there, what's, what better to do than to tear down all of the institutions of society and, uh, cheer on, uh, the Iranian-backed terrorists, uh, whether they're Hamas or Hezbollah, the Houthis, you name it.

00:25:57.680 But, uh, we're going to take all of that up with Heather MacDonald. 1.00

00:26:02.340 Stay with us.

00:26:03.060 We're coming right back.

00:26:07.740 Lou Dobbs here.

00:26:08.920 I'm delighted to let you all know that the program Lou Dobbs Tonight has returned to the air.

00:26:15.320 That's right.

00:26:16.200 Lou Dobbs Tonight is back.

00:26:18.280 We're live each and every weeknight at 7 p.m. Eastern and 6 p.m. Central on Rumble.com slash Lou Dobbs.

00:26:28.060 That's Rumble.com slash Lou Dobbs.

00:26:31.500 I hope you'll be joining us for Lou Dobbs Tonight as our fight to save this country has only begun.

00:26:38.500 We're back now with Heather MacDonald.

00:26:46.340 And, Heather, we hear lots of people, and I'm, I'm shocked by some of the people who use the word progressive because they're in opposition both politically and ideologically to Democrats.

00:26:55.960 But they refuse to use the word Marxist when describing a Barack Obama or the Biden administration or regime's policies or, you know, they're anti-America.

00:27:08.680 They're pro.

00:27:09.460 They're absolutely embedded in Marxism.

00:27:12.960 Marxism, and they refuse to call the Democrats Marxist when I think that's precisely what they are, without exception.

00:27:21.640 Well, I actually would preserve Marxism for something that is much more focused on destroying free markets and capitalism.

00:27:30.260 Now, you can say that, well, the over-regulation that Biden is doing, the insanity of the green energy mission, the insanity of believing that you can make everybody drive electrical vehicles without impoverishing us, all of us, by bringing down the electrical grids, that that is anti-capitalist.

00:27:52.500 But it is not, I don't think, that is in service of a absolutely unreachable environmental goal.

00:28:03.860 I don't think it's driven by the same hatred and belief in class revolution that drives Marxism.

00:28:10.580 I think it's something worse and less interesting because Marxism at least had some interesting things to say about what was going on in the 19th century with the development of this new form of capitalism and workers, proletarian workers in factories that is very different than how human beings had organized their economies in previous centuries.

00:28:37.460 And so we can disagree with Marxist conclusions, but some of his observations, I think, were not fanciful.

00:28:48.000 What's going on, I think, is even worse, which is a hatred for all of Western civilization.

00:28:54.760 It's a civilization deemed too white and too male, and for that reason, it has to come down. 0.96

00:29:01.900 So this is beyond something much more than economics.

00:29:06.400 It's about the very possibility of people striving for excellence without being told that by virtue of being white, male and heterosexual, they are going to be at the absolute bottom of the heap when it comes to getting jobs, when it comes to college admissions, admissions to law school, medical school, advancement in medical school, becoming a doctor.

00:29:32.340 If you have a son or a son or a grandson who is white and heterosexual, he's going to have a very difficult time competing on his merits for the rest of his life.

00:29:44.660 He's going to be handicapped by hatred. 0.99

00:29:47.160 Handicapped by hatred.

00:29:49.160 And I want to just take a moment to explain why I think that that Marxist template works in this instance.

00:30:00.960 And that is because we saw in the 60s and the 70s a shift in this country away from the Marxists who were following the usual prescription, that is, talking about class warfare, talking about the proletariat and the revolution that they expected.

00:30:18.340 They were disappointed in every at every turn nearly in the United States, the unique American experience.

00:30:26.640 So what they did was, in my judgment, they shifted to education.

00:30:30.820 They shifted to professionals, professions.

00:30:34.380 They shifted to politics.

00:30:37.240 And they and they flew under false flags for the longest time.

00:30:41.340 They the great society under Johnson, for example, moved government just lavishly across the the the the the entire scope of governance.

00:30:55.800 And what we have now is a government that is inculcated into government.

00:31:02.020 And in my judgment, a state ownership of property and control.

00:31:08.680 It's inculcated throughout our government.

00:31:10.780 The Marxists are in charge of the Democrat Party.

00:31:13.780 They are in charge of the permanent bureaucracy.

00:31:16.100 They are in charge of every agency and every department of the federal government.

00:31:20.660 And by the way, they are now coexisting with the corporatist, the corporate globalist.

00:31:27.460 And it's to me, straightforwardly, we are moving so far from capitalism that it's getting very, very tricky when we talk about markets,

00:31:37.180 because these markets are regulated to a point that's remarkable.

00:31:42.400 And by the way, being international markets now, not simply domestic markets, we are connected as we've never been to the other civilizations, if you will, and the other countries around the world.

00:31:57.400 We're an international nation now, I think, without doubt.

00:32:02.400 Well, that's definitely true.

00:32:04.180 I mean, we certainly believe that we have no right to insist on our own inherent culture, that we must be, have our immigration policy determined by people living outside the country based on their whim to get here, 0.99

00:32:17.320 not based on what people within the country believe in, there's no question.

00:32:22.540 I was talking to a guy in Middle Eastern Studies in University of Pennsylvania, and he explicitly said,

00:32:29.700 we in universities are supposed to go beyond nationalists, we're supposed to be post-nationalists.

00:32:36.180 He actually said that.

00:32:37.360 And therefore, he thought that, why do the Jews get away with believing in Zionism?

00:32:42.960 He thought this was unfair on a college campus, and that people that believe in Israel were violating what should be now the dominant academic ideology.

00:32:53.080 But I'm just going to push back again, Lou, for the sake of an interesting discussion.

00:32:58.940 You know, I don't think there's a theory out there among conservatives that this was all a deliberate plan,

00:33:06.380 the long march through the institutions, to quote Marcuse, I just don't believe it.

00:33:11.500 I think it was incremental.

00:33:12.940 I don't think there was anybody like some sort of communist five-year plan that set out to take things over.

00:33:21.840 I think there was pressure to expand government welfare.

00:33:26.520 There was a race ideology that we had to atone for, our centuries of racial abuse.

00:33:35.200 And hatred and cruelty, so we're going to expand the welfare state.

00:33:40.640 But we are not, as much as we are in many instances, destroying a lot of freedom of entrepreneurs to make decisions

00:33:50.900 and respond to market signals, we are not close to destroying free markets.

00:33:57.420 Nobody, the Hollywood moguls and the tech moguls that are the big supporters of the Democratic Party really do not fear that they're going to have to give up their industrial enterprises for a national takeover.

00:34:16.480 You know, we're not going to nationalize Google or Amazon.

00:34:21.320 You know, some of these people, Jeff Bezos, he is a capitalist par excellence.

00:34:25.820 So, again, I don't think it was a plan.

00:34:31.280 And the only thing, you know, the other thing that conservatives who say, oh, cultural Marxism, they say, well, Marxism has hierarchies.

00:34:39.260 It says there's good people and bad people categorically.

00:34:42.380 Cultural Marxism does the same thing. 0.98

00:34:44.620 You're bad if you're white. 0.99

00:34:46.080 You're good if you're an underrepresented minority. 1.00

00:34:47.920 Therefore, the same. 0.74

00:34:48.560 I think that obscures more than it clarifies because, again, this is driven by an identity ideology, not a hatred for the free market. 0.99

00:35:04.900 I would love if I thought that all of these idiot young people were really at risk of losing their access to their Starbucks and their smartphones. 1.00

00:35:19.060 But, you know, the free market is going to continue pumping out these goodies, even as these idiots don't deserve them for an instant. 0.99

00:35:27.480 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today. 0.99

00:35:29.400 Our guests here tomorrow on the Great America Sunday Show will be Congressman Andy Biggs and America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

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The Great America Show - January 20, 2024

THE GREAT AMERICA SATURDAY SHOW - January 20th, 2024

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