The Great America Show - June 01, 2024


The Great America Saturday Show： June 1st, 2024

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Harvey Risch Anthony Fauci Omicron Harvey Rice H5N1 Peter McCullough Francis Collins Don Henderson Jeremy Farrar Tom Inglesby Drew Pinsky Vaccines COVID-19 Mallard Obama Trump
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Harold Reich is the Chief Epidemiologist at The Wellness Company and a Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Scientist at the Yale School of Public Health. He's also the author of the book, "Vaccine Junkie: How to Survive the Next Pandemic," and co-host of the radio show, "The Great America Show." He joins us to talk about the new bird flu pandemic, H5N1, and why we should be worried about it.

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00:00:33.860 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:37.180 Great to have you with us.
00:00:38.940 We asked Dr. Harvey Reich to join us on today's show.
00:00:43.060 He is the chief epidemiologist at The Wellness Company.
00:00:46.040 He's also a professor emeritus and senior research scientist in epidemiology for the Yale School of Public Health.
00:00:53.000 And it is always great to see you.
00:00:54.760 Thanks for being with us, doctor.
00:00:56.420 Pleasure to be with you.
00:00:57.780 A lot of rhetoric now flying through media, at least, and, of course, the corridors of power in Washington, about bird flu, about what we can expect.
00:01:11.500 And all of it is dire, and it sounds like all too familiar, fear-mongering on the part of many of the agencies.
00:01:21.600 Your thoughts about right now, how big a deal, in your judgment, is bird flu?
00:01:28.080 Well, it's trying to tell the difference between zero and infinity.
00:01:33.620 It's somewhere in the middle.
00:01:35.120 But, you know, there's no way of saying anything that either makes you feel calm or feel, you know, very fearful.
00:01:43.560 Interestingly, today I discovered an article written by Tom Inglesby and Don Henderson,
00:01:49.160 who were, Don was instrumental in eradicating smallpox from the planet.
00:01:54.600 Inglesby is head of infectious diseases and institute at Johns Hopkins.
00:01:58.380 And they wrote this in 2012 saying that there should be no gain-of-function research on H5N1 bird flu,
00:02:05.260 that one does not need to have gain-of-function research to make it infectious.
00:02:09.860 In humans, in order to make a vaccine, in order to develop medications, in order to study it and learn about it,
00:02:16.380 you don't have to make it so that it can transmit between people and have such a really severe,
00:02:22.740 potentially severe virulence in this organism.
00:02:28.200 However, nobody seems to have been listening to them from that in 2012 because we have these grants,
00:02:35.240 I think, at the USDA laboratory facilities in Athens, Georgia, where they are doing exactly that.
00:02:42.040 They're studying the transmission of H5N1 bird flu in mallard ducks.
00:02:48.760 Mallard ducks are, you know, birds that fly all over the world.
00:02:53.120 And that means that if one of them were to get a strain, a mutation of this virus that could infect humans and human-to-human spread,
00:03:04.240 it would be all over the world in almost no time.
00:03:07.980 And so it's a dangerous thing to be doing.
00:03:10.140 It has no real medical, biological rationale.
00:03:13.180 And you wonder why our government is funding these two NIH-funded studies at that facility in coordination with Chinese researchers to look at H5N1.
00:03:27.620 You know, it's absurd that we're doing this and putting the country, if not the world, at risk.
00:03:32.080 Nevertheless, in the 12 years since Inglesby and Henderson wrote that editorial,
00:03:41.380 there hasn't been an escape from a lab of a virulent form of H5N1 that infects people.
00:03:47.880 It's encroaching on dairy herds and has infected one caretaker, one worker in managing those herds,
00:03:58.300 and with a very mild case of pink eye and nothing more severe.
00:04:03.840 So it's very difficult to know, you know, between zero and infinity what to think about this.
00:04:09.860 It is.
00:04:10.320 And at the same time that the NIH and the WHO are all pushing something called disease X
00:04:17.140 and talking about 20 times as much virulent in this, as yet, undiscovered, unengineered virus,
00:04:29.420 it makes you wonder what's up with all of this.
00:04:34.100 And I have to say, when you said NIH, I think Dr. Fauci,
00:04:38.040 and I think of his many crimes during the pandemic,
00:04:46.760 why would the NIH find there be any reason, rationale, scientific basis
00:04:53.880 for actually gain-of-function research that could lead to the disaster that you suggest?
00:05:01.080 Well, there are two things to say.
00:05:03.420 The first is that there's a gigantic bioweapons research community that lives and breathes this research,
00:05:11.960 that its life force is getting money to do this research.
00:05:16.900 These are scientists who've been doing this research for 40 or 50 years,
00:05:20.700 since we promised in 1975 not to do it.
00:05:23.460 And then we've had this gigantic industry and billions of dollars a year in funding
00:05:27.520 from DOD and NIH to just do this very thing that we're not supposed to be doing
00:05:32.820 under the premise, supposed premise, that it's to make vaccines,
00:05:37.260 which is my reason why I think that the COVID vaccines were pushed out so much
00:05:42.460 because it had to be shown as the end result of the laboratory work
00:05:46.680 that either accidentally or intentionally released the COVID virus
00:05:50.760 into the general population based on biowarfare research that we did and the Chinese did.
00:05:56.720 So the main thing is to protect that community.
00:06:02.260 And of course, there's a huge amount of money involved.
00:06:04.400 But the other thing that comes to mind is in the Obama administration,
00:06:08.720 they put a halt, a so-called pause, on gain-of-function research.
00:06:14.300 Why was that ever rescinded?
00:06:15.600 Why is the general population comfortable with doing this research?
00:06:19.580 And why aren't we not repurposing this institution
00:06:22.840 into doing other medical infectious disease research?
00:06:25.900 You don't have to gain-of-function research in order to protect yourself against bioweapons.
00:06:32.020 If somebody launches a bioweapon against you, you don't have to launch a bioweapon back.
00:06:36.020 We've got plenty of other economic, conventional, and nuclear approaches
00:06:40.140 to deal with war attacks against us.
00:06:43.440 You don't need a bioweapon for that purpose.
00:06:45.320 So the plausibility is almost zero in this.
00:06:47.540 You know, I hadn't really thought about it the way you construct it,
00:06:51.760 but the very idea that you have to reply in kind in a war of any sort,
00:06:59.060 if they drop a, you know, there's nothing that suggests you have to drop a 155-millimeter
00:07:05.480 howitzer shell on somebody.
00:07:07.700 Because they fired one at you, you can do a number of other things.
00:07:12.180 But it is odd that there is this, what would you call it,
00:07:16.900 a mirror effect when it comes to biochemical warfare.
00:07:22.980 If they're going to use mustard gas, we'll use mustard gas.
00:07:26.240 If they're going to use the Wuhan virus, we'll try to find one.
00:07:32.320 Your thoughts?
00:07:33.180 Does that make it any more justifiable, tit for tat?
00:07:37.320 They did it so we can do it?
00:07:38.680 I mean, it's absurd.
00:07:40.800 It is.
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00:07:44.400 as we continue talking with Harvey Rice,
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00:07:54.080 why in the world would we be partnering with China 0.52
00:07:57.060 on such a dangerous potential weapon?
00:08:00.100 And it makes no sense, at least on the surface.
00:08:04.360 We're going to talk to Dr. Rice about what lies beneath the surface next.
00:08:09.140 Stay with us.
00:08:09.640 We'll be right back.
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00:09:44.600 We're back.
00:09:47.840 We're talking with Dr. Harvey Reich, the Chief Epidemiologist at The Wellness Company.
00:09:53.560 And, doctor, thanks for being with us.
00:09:55.920 I want to go to these emails that are showing NIH, an NIH advisor,
00:10:02.800 deleting records, using secret back channels,
00:10:07.000 trying to help Dr. Fauci evade COVID transparency,
00:10:11.880 and, by the way, succeeding in doing so.
00:10:15.120 These emails that we know existed were managed in such a way
00:10:23.640 that the people who deleted them knew they were being nefarious.
00:10:27.980 They knew they were protecting an interest that wasn't the general public's interest.
00:10:32.060 It wasn't on the right side of history.
00:10:33.840 They knew they were doing something wrong,
00:10:35.060 and they felt compelled to do it to protect either themselves, their friends, their colleagues,
00:10:40.520 rather than the general public.
00:10:42.840 All of that transparency should have been out there from the beginning.
00:10:46.160 But as you know, the pandemic origin was covered up right at the start
00:10:51.300 when Jeremy Farrar in the UK and Francis Collins, head of NIH, and Tony Fauci,
00:10:58.540 organized a bunch of scientists to make a statement saying that the virus
00:11:03.060 was of natural origin from the wet market, originally from bats,
00:11:07.920 and that any other scenarios of lab research or bioengineering was a conspiracy theory.
00:11:14.760 And they put this out.
00:11:15.940 They published this and so on.
00:11:17.580 And when the evidence was exactly the opposite,
00:11:19.440 you have to ask why did they have this need to cover up so desperately.
00:11:24.820 And I think this goes back to what I was saying,
00:11:27.020 that this was a bio-warfare operation in the engineering of this virus.
00:11:31.620 And if the general public realized that all of this sickness
00:11:35.120 and economic and other damage, psychological damage,
00:11:40.120 from all of the management of the pandemic,
00:11:43.420 in addition to the infection itself,
00:11:45.140 was caused by an industry that was run amok
00:11:50.160 and shouldn't have been doing what it was doing in the first place,
00:11:52.700 the public would clamor to close it down.
00:11:54.640 So they had to cover up how they were responsible
00:11:57.340 for this pandemic in the first place.
00:11:59.920 So that is why I think that all of the cover-up occurred.
00:12:05.740 And as to why we were in bed with researchers in China,
00:12:09.360 because science is a pristine human knowledge thing.
00:12:13.180 And scientists can naively think that the whole rest of the world
00:12:17.100 is just interested in how nature works the same way they are.
00:12:20.260 Whereas, you know, various countries have government connections
00:12:24.700 to their science infrastructure
00:12:28.060 and look at the science as a technology
00:12:30.200 for maximizing their government's performance
00:12:33.400 in whatever system of government they have.
00:12:35.400 And that naivete in responding to the Chinese is just absurd. 0.98
00:12:41.140 It's a ridiculous globalist idea that has no foundation in reality. 0.98
00:12:45.740 No foundation at all, but persistent. 0.96
00:12:48.220 And persistent amongst those who seem to benefit monetarily
00:12:52.640 or in some fashion, even exorbitantly,
00:12:57.780 it's really troubling to see that this goes on.
00:13:02.220 I can say from my own experience in interviewing Dr. Fauci
00:13:05.500 in the early days of COVID,
00:13:08.200 by the way, it's one of the, I'm going to share this story.
00:13:12.240 Dr. Fauci maintaining that I was crazy to suggest
00:13:15.680 that that was the Wuhan virus, amongst other things.
00:13:20.800 Other doctors who I subsequently found out
00:13:23.320 who were dependent upon Dr. Fauci,
00:13:25.720 supporting his view as I talked with them
00:13:28.100 because their grants depended upon his favor.
00:13:32.240 It is really quite a web,
00:13:36.240 a network of interests that come together around the NIH.
00:13:41.680 Not all of it, of course, subversive or nefarious,
00:13:45.100 but much of it is.
00:13:46.560 And it made liars out of some very good doctors,
00:13:50.020 which I think is a deep shame.
00:13:53.880 Well, you have to ask,
00:13:55.900 why were they doing what they were doing?
00:13:58.740 In other words, for me,
00:14:00.420 I have no stake in anything
00:14:02.800 except trying to translate how nature works into English,
00:14:06.400 how science works into English
00:14:07.560 in my lay coverage of things.
00:14:10.520 I'm just driven to find out how nature works.
00:14:14.320 It's a curiosity that I've had since almost from birth.
00:14:17.560 And I'm not going to lie about how nature works.
00:14:20.140 I could be wrong,
00:14:21.160 but I'm not going to knowingly lie about it.
00:14:22.680 Why are all those other people lying
00:14:24.380 when they know they're lying?
00:14:26.680 Yeah.
00:14:26.860 And do you think they'll ever be held to account?
00:14:30.460 Do you think truly they'll ever be held to account?
00:14:34.580 I hope so.
00:14:36.100 There are plenty of people
00:14:37.380 who are continuing to try.
00:14:40.100 It is a slow process and may take a decade for all we know.
00:14:44.280 The courts are slow,
00:14:45.800 and that's where I think the approaches are going to be.
00:14:49.260 Well, we stand with you in your hopes.
00:14:52.900 A positive result, even if deferred,
00:14:56.700 is better than letting this persist.
00:14:59.960 I want to turn to another issue,
00:15:03.360 and that is the role of big pharma in all of this.
00:15:06.460 People don't understand the billions and billions of dollars
00:15:13.000 that are built around what is public health,
00:15:17.560 but it's such a private enterprise
00:15:20.680 and one of the wealthiest enterprises in the country.
00:15:25.260 Their influence is sometimes nefarious.
00:15:29.140 Their influence is pervasive.
00:15:31.280 And I look back on the pandemic,
00:15:36.240 and I think how in the world could we have gone so long
00:15:40.620 without talking about prevention,
00:15:44.300 dealing with treatments rather than simply vaccine?
00:15:48.440 Vaccines took up all of the public mind space
00:15:51.460 for a very long time
00:15:53.620 and to the detriment of millions of Americans, I believe.
00:15:59.660 Your thoughts?
00:16:01.920 Well, that was the propaganda space
00:16:04.440 for the first year of the pandemic.
00:16:07.200 If there had been a generally recognized
00:16:10.080 early outpatient treatment
00:16:12.220 that kept people out of the hospital
00:16:13.720 and kept them from dying,
00:16:15.080 what would be the need of the vaccines
00:16:17.000 except in a very small,
00:16:18.960 tiny fraction of the general population to use?
00:16:23.020 So that had to be suppressed at all costs.
00:16:25.720 And the network that you describe of nefariousness
00:16:28.080 that pervades NIH, Department of Defense,
00:16:31.440 going up to the National Security Council
00:16:33.220 and the administrative state
00:16:34.320 was working full-time
00:16:36.220 to smear the medications that work,
00:16:38.700 especially hydroxychloroquine,
00:16:40.240 which in the first two years of the pandemic
00:16:42.360 worked dramatically well
00:16:43.880 to keep people from dying.
00:16:45.420 It reduced the risk of dying about 75% or more,
00:16:48.940 which is astonishingly good
00:16:50.740 and would have saved, you know,
00:16:52.700 half a million or more lives
00:16:53.940 had it been applied in that time period
00:16:56.220 more widely than it was.
00:16:58.400 And so this had to be suppressed at all costs,
00:17:01.360 including organized smears against good research,
00:17:04.980 the promulgation of fake studies that,
00:17:07.280 you know, the Surgesphere paper
00:17:09.120 that was published in New England Journal
00:17:10.580 and Lancet that just totally fraudulent work,
00:17:14.320 the publication of bad studies
00:17:16.280 claiming to be good,
00:17:17.760 overdosing and underdosing subjects
00:17:19.740 and using the wrong subjects,
00:17:21.620 looking at hospital patients
00:17:23.140 when we're talking about outpatient treatment,
00:17:25.400 on and on and on.
00:17:26.360 This is how pharma has manipulated
00:17:28.400 the scientific evidence
00:17:29.380 for the last 40 or 50 years.
00:17:31.460 And it has the tobacco playbook
00:17:34.280 from the 1980s
00:17:35.700 that it uses, used as a guide.
00:17:38.400 There's never enough evidence.
00:17:39.740 We need to study this more.
00:17:41.020 This study isn't representative.
00:17:42.420 Oh, it was a bad study.
00:17:43.800 It was, it was a low quality study
00:17:45.400 because it wasn't randomized
00:17:46.640 and on and on and on.
00:17:47.800 All of this scientific claptrap
00:17:50.220 to try to smear these medications
00:17:53.360 and ivermectin for that matter
00:17:55.400 that did well working as prevention
00:17:58.480 for outpatient early treatment
00:18:00.480 to keep people from being hospitalized and dying.
00:18:03.920 And that's, that is what we suffered
00:18:06.720 in the first year,
00:18:07.760 the first two years of the pandemic
00:18:10.140 that had that been out there,
00:18:11.900 it would have sufficiently damaged
00:18:13.980 the vaccine industry
00:18:15.500 to the tune of many hundreds
00:18:17.180 of billions of dollars, probably.
00:18:19.380 And it was an ideological
00:18:20.320 and partisan issue.
00:18:24.160 The left, the Democrats,
00:18:26.980 the Marxist Democrats,
00:18:28.760 mocking, whether that be
00:18:30.660 the President of the United States
00:18:31.920 or whomever,
00:18:33.860 hydroxychlorine, ivermectin,
00:18:38.400 all of them,
00:18:40.320 everyone that was using it
00:18:41.640 and fancying to support its use
00:18:45.540 and treatment was mocked
00:18:47.800 and assailed by the power structure
00:18:51.520 primarily of the left in the country.
00:18:53.520 It really was a remarkable moment.
00:18:55.940 But it turns out that it started
00:18:58.060 before President Trump
00:18:59.520 had actually said anything
00:19:00.520 in March of 2020,
00:19:02.440 that the French knew this was coming
00:19:03.920 in October, November of 2019
00:19:06.080 when they changed the status
00:19:07.500 of this medication
00:19:08.340 from over-the-counter
00:19:09.940 to prescription only.
00:19:11.440 They were in bed
00:19:12.300 with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:19:13.760 They built the BSL-4 labs
00:19:15.940 and so on.
00:19:16.380 They knew this was coming
00:19:17.360 and they had to head it off.
00:19:19.060 And so it proves
00:19:20.240 that this was pre-political,
00:19:22.520 so to speak.
00:19:23.740 Yeah.
00:19:24.120 And just as effective,
00:19:27.280 even more so in some cases.
00:19:29.000 We're talking with Dr. Harvey Reich
00:19:30.940 of the Wellness Company.
00:19:32.940 And I want to talk about
00:19:35.980 bird flu one more time
00:19:37.640 before we let you go
00:19:39.780 because I want to see,
00:19:41.620 I really want to examine
00:19:42.560 a couple of things
00:19:43.400 that are deeply disturbing to me.
00:19:45.960 We'll see what the audience
00:19:47.260 thinks about it.
00:19:48.100 We'll be right back
00:19:48.880 with Dr. Harvey Reich.
00:19:50.120 Stay with us.
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00:20:26.260 We're talking with Dr. Harvey Reich
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00:21:30.840 getting it filled.
00:21:31.880 The pharmacist may or may not
00:21:33.160 filling it open
00:21:33.780 and all of that.
00:21:34.840 It takes day,
00:21:36.220 two days,
00:21:37.120 three days
00:21:37.560 to do that.
00:21:38.720 And we wanted
00:21:39.460 to make available kits
00:21:41.140 with various
00:21:42.180 of these antibacterial,
00:21:44.380 antiviral,
00:21:45.140 antifungal
00:21:45.860 medications
00:21:47.600 that could be used
00:21:49.920 as necessary
00:21:51.160 when a time comes
00:21:53.140 where you'd actually
00:21:53.860 need them
00:21:54.480 for traveling,
00:21:56.020 for emergencies
00:21:57.100 around the house,
00:21:58.140 infections,
00:21:59.300 and so on.
00:22:00.800 These things do happen
00:22:01.980 in life.
00:22:03.460 They're not all that common,
00:22:04.820 but it's better
00:22:05.380 to be prepared
00:22:06.300 than have to scramble,
00:22:08.420 you know,
00:22:08.780 when you don't want
00:22:09.440 to do that.
00:22:10.740 With regard
00:22:11.500 to the bird flu,
00:22:12.380 the question
00:22:12.840 that we as
00:22:13.980 a wellness company
00:22:14.720 have been deliberating on
00:22:17.200 is how to treat flu
00:22:19.180 with a medication.
00:22:21.340 And Tamiflu
00:22:22.280 is the only one
00:22:23.400 that we are aware of.
00:22:24.980 And this has
00:22:25.640 a somewhat
00:22:26.020 controversial history.
00:22:27.760 There are people
00:22:28.220 who feel very strongly
00:22:29.260 for it
00:22:29.780 and other people
00:22:30.360 who feel very strongly
00:22:31.340 against it.
00:22:32.260 Nevertheless,
00:22:32.860 we've decided
00:22:33.420 to put Tamiflu in
00:22:34.620 because if people
00:22:36.060 can take Tamiflu
00:22:37.160 on a flu episode
00:22:39.360 starting the first day
00:22:40.980 that they have symptoms,
00:22:42.180 there's more of a chance
00:22:43.280 that it will help.
00:22:44.320 We don't know for sure
00:22:45.160 that it will help,
00:22:45.880 but there's more of a chance.
00:22:46.720 So in general,
00:22:48.260 Tamiflu only has
00:22:49.580 48 hours of time
00:22:51.440 that it would work
00:22:52.320 and we're hoping
00:22:53.420 that this could be
00:22:54.220 cut in half
00:22:54.800 by having these kits
00:22:55.660 available.
00:22:56.780 And there's other
00:22:57.580 medications in them too
00:22:58.680 for other kinds
00:22:59.400 of infections
00:22:59.980 that could be useful,
00:23:01.740 including COVID
00:23:02.340 for that matter.
00:23:03.940 And COVID,
00:23:05.880 apparently,
00:23:06.440 there are variants,
00:23:07.860 I don't understand
00:23:09.240 how they came up
00:23:10.020 with this,
00:23:10.420 but FLIRT variants
00:23:11.580 from COVID-19
00:23:13.120 that are making
00:23:14.500 itself known.
00:23:16.220 How significant
00:23:17.020 is that?
00:23:19.220 Well, fortunately,
00:23:20.600 when we got hit
00:23:21.640 with the Omicron strain
00:23:23.240 at the end of 2021,
00:23:25.100 beginning of 2022,
00:23:26.940 the game was over
00:23:28.160 for the pandemic propagandists.
00:23:32.180 The Omicron is
00:23:33.380 a much milder form
00:23:35.040 of illness.
00:23:35.940 That doesn't mean
00:23:36.860 it's harmless.
00:23:37.720 That doesn't mean
00:23:38.440 that people aren't hospitalized
00:23:39.520 and rarely some people
00:23:40.900 have died from Omicron.
00:23:42.440 But by and large,
00:23:43.700 Omicron is an annoying,
00:23:45.360 uncomfortable,
00:23:46.760 aggravating
00:23:47.340 outpatient illness.
00:23:49.100 And that there are
00:23:50.500 medications that can help
00:23:51.720 to make the illness milder
00:23:53.280 is what we want
00:23:55.220 to aim for.
00:23:56.360 Of course,
00:23:56.680 we want to keep people
00:23:57.340 out of the hospital.
00:23:58.880 And hydroxychloroquine
00:24:00.440 and ivermectin
00:24:01.440 may work for that.
00:24:03.060 But we also want
00:24:04.580 to help people
00:24:05.120 to shorten the time
00:24:06.000 that they have
00:24:06.440 these uncomfortable symptoms.
00:24:07.560 And so that's kind of
00:24:09.800 what we've aimed for
00:24:10.860 in the contagion kit.
00:24:13.280 And the wellness company
00:24:14.280 supports, obviously,
00:24:16.900 ivermectin
00:24:17.660 and hydroxychlorine.
00:24:20.900 I've been trying
00:24:21.640 to pronounce that correctly
00:24:22.760 for, what, now five years.
00:24:25.900 And I'm going to get it right someday.
00:24:29.820 It really has proved
00:24:32.160 the lie
00:24:34.320 that was
00:24:36.060 exhaustive
00:24:37.500 in its
00:24:37.880 reach
00:24:39.140 for a long time.
00:24:41.580 And it really
00:24:42.620 turns out
00:24:43.340 those drugs
00:24:44.520 are effective,
00:24:45.360 right?
00:24:46.440 Yes.
00:24:46.940 In fact,
00:24:48.000 well,
00:24:48.260 the studies were done
00:24:49.880 through 2022.
00:24:52.060 So we don't really know
00:24:53.240 as much
00:24:54.120 about these drugs
00:24:55.160 in the Omicron period.
00:24:57.420 We know that
00:24:58.020 they were very effective
00:24:59.080 before Omicron
00:25:00.320 and likely
00:25:01.560 to be effective
00:25:02.220 during Omicron
00:25:03.500 as well,
00:25:03.980 because the organism
00:25:05.500 uses more or less
00:25:06.760 the same approach
00:25:08.140 to invading
00:25:08.720 the human tissues,
00:25:10.060 human body.
00:25:11.140 The one thing
00:25:11.580 about Omicron
00:25:12.080 is it doesn't invade
00:25:12.940 the lungs
00:25:13.380 anywhere near as deeply
00:25:14.800 as the Delta
00:25:16.300 and pre-Omicron strains,
00:25:17.460 which is why
00:25:18.060 it's so much less virulent
00:25:19.200 and why way fewer people
00:25:21.400 have been dying from it.
00:25:23.060 So that's what's
00:25:24.440 made it tolerable
00:25:25.280 and what's made it endemic.
00:25:27.340 And that the CDC
00:25:29.240 has now said
00:25:30.080 from its empirical
00:25:31.400 survey data
00:25:32.600 that close to 90%
00:25:34.380 of the American public
00:25:35.240 has had COVID already
00:25:36.180 and we all have
00:25:37.540 natural immunity
00:25:38.300 one way or another
00:25:39.420 to this infection also.
00:25:41.800 So there's a,
00:25:42.920 you know,
00:25:43.320 it's endemic
00:25:44.020 but not a worry anymore
00:25:45.280 by and large.
00:25:47.160 Well,
00:25:47.440 and it's wonderful
00:25:49.320 that the medical community
00:25:51.640 got the messages out
00:25:53.260 through dissent
00:25:54.860 and overcoming
00:25:56.780 massive resistance
00:25:58.660 from,
00:25:59.620 I guess we could call it
00:26:00.680 the establishment
00:26:01.440 whether it be
00:26:01.880 the medical establishment,
00:26:03.180 big pharma,
00:26:03.780 whatever.
00:26:05.320 And we're
00:26:06.140 at a much better footing
00:26:07.380 right now
00:26:07.960 and I think all of us
00:26:08.940 more receptive
00:26:09.620 to those opposing voices
00:26:12.340 than in the midst
00:26:14.320 of the pandemic
00:26:15.640 in large measure
00:26:17.560 because of people
00:26:18.960 like Dr. Harvey Reich.
00:26:20.740 We appreciate you
00:26:21.820 or your voice
00:26:22.780 and your thoughts
00:26:23.560 and hydroxychloroquine.
00:26:26.900 I just said it real quick
00:26:27.900 to show you
00:26:28.580 that I could do it
00:26:29.480 randomly,
00:26:30.880 not frequently
00:26:32.140 but occasionally.
00:26:34.420 It's great to have you here.
00:26:36.120 I've got one other question
00:26:37.420 that I have to ask.
00:26:39.520 Is there any tie
00:26:41.120 between vulnerability
00:26:43.720 to quote unquote
00:26:45.220 H5N1, 1.00
00:26:46.760 bird flu,
00:26:48.000 and any of the other viruses
00:26:51.580 including COVID?
00:26:53.020 Is there any relationship
00:26:55.640 in vulnerability
00:26:57.040 in likelihood
00:26:59.100 of contagion?
00:27:01.640 Well,
00:27:02.060 I don't think
00:27:02.760 that there is much.
00:27:04.300 One thing
00:27:04.980 that may turn out
00:27:06.040 is that people
00:27:06.680 who've had multiple doses
00:27:08.220 of the COVID vaccines,
00:27:09.800 so now we're talking
00:27:10.560 about four or five
00:27:12.000 or more doses,
00:27:13.040 may have trained
00:27:14.100 their immune systems
00:27:15.240 to respond
00:27:16.580 to the original
00:27:18.740 COVID virus
00:27:20.820 when they get hit
00:27:22.920 with other viruses.
00:27:24.640 Now,
00:27:24.980 we know this is true
00:27:25.860 for later versions
00:27:27.460 of the COVID virus,
00:27:29.540 the Omicron one
00:27:30.460 and so on now,
00:27:31.780 but this may carry over
00:27:33.540 to flu
00:27:36.220 and other viruses
00:27:37.620 and it remains
00:27:38.280 to be seen.
00:27:39.460 I would urge everybody
00:27:40.520 to take daily vitamin D
00:27:41.820 to protect
00:27:42.380 against all infectious diseases.
00:27:45.220 Standard amount
00:27:46.060 of 5,000 units per day
00:27:47.280 is a good amount
00:27:47.980 and you can adjust
00:27:48.660 up or down
00:27:49.120 depending on body weight,
00:27:50.080 but everybody needs
00:27:51.360 to be sure
00:27:51.860 that they have
00:27:52.320 enough vitamin D
00:27:53.120 on board
00:27:53.520 to protect them
00:27:54.200 from flu,
00:27:55.920 COVID,
00:27:56.720 respiratory syncytial virus,
00:27:58.000 everything that's out there,
00:27:59.200 vitamin D is useful.
00:28:00.960 And how much vitamin D
00:28:02.760 do you recommend per day?
00:28:04.720 For adults,
00:28:05.740 5,000 units per day
00:28:07.240 is a good amount
00:28:08.640 to start with.
00:28:09.940 If you get
00:28:10.900 an annual physical exam,
00:28:12.100 you could ask the doctor
00:28:13.020 to do vitamin D levels
00:28:14.760 to see whether
00:28:15.460 you're taking too much
00:28:17.000 or too little,
00:28:17.680 but it's not a critical thing.
00:28:19.480 5,000 units per day
00:28:21.200 is safe
00:28:22.260 and useful.
00:28:23.700 Good.
00:28:24.740 Dr. Harvey Reich
00:28:25.760 of the Wellness Company,
00:28:27.460 we thank you
00:28:28.140 for being with us.
00:28:29.260 I want to remind everybody
00:28:30.540 to get your
00:28:31.300 wellness kit.
00:28:33.180 As Dr. Reich said,
00:28:34.340 four of them.
00:28:35.940 Choose,
00:28:36.400 you know,
00:28:37.720 the one best for you
00:28:39.680 or the two best for you,
00:28:41.400 whatever it may be.
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00:28:59.320 And we're delighted
00:29:00.760 that you can be
00:29:02.100 with this doctor
00:29:02.760 as always.
00:29:03.460 Come back soon.
00:29:05.300 Very,
00:29:05.900 very educational.
00:29:07.920 We thank you so much.
00:29:09.420 Thank you.
00:29:09.740 My pleasure.
00:29:10.140 Thanks, everybody,
00:29:11.200 for being with us today.
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00:29:20.320 God bless you
00:29:21.000 and may God bless America.