The Great America Show - The Great America Saturday Show： June 22nd, 2024

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00:00:33.840 Hello, everybody.

00:00:35.200 Welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:36.840 Great to have you with us.

00:00:38.020 Our guest today has a new report out at his watchdog group, the Government Accountability Institute.

00:00:44.220 Peter Swiser says Merrick Garland is allowing attorneys to take advantage of their clients in the long ongoing Camp Lejeune litigation.

00:00:54.740 And now here with us is Peter Swiser.

00:00:57.480 And, Peter, I want to start with this new report coming out from Merrick Garland about the Justice Department on these ads that we're all seeing.

00:01:09.180 And the exorbitant fees that some attorneys are charging.

00:01:16.040 What's behind all that?

00:01:19.540 Yeah.

00:01:20.080 So a lot of us have seen the Camp Lejeune ads.

00:01:22.220 And these are instances where, of course, U.S. military personnel and their families who were stationed there ended up being poisoned because of water there that was poisoned.

00:01:33.080 So they were certainly victimized.

00:01:35.220 And they're showing that they had medical problems that resulted from this.

00:01:41.120 There's a settlement that's been reached.

00:01:42.880 The problem is, is that these ads are being run by law firms and law groups, and they are taking 60 percent fees, lawyer fees, in some cases, on these settlements.

00:01:54.400 So these soldiers and these Marines and others are being victimized a second time.

00:02:00.900 So the question is, is how did this happen?

00:02:03.300 It happened on two levels.

00:02:04.920 First of all, there was an effort when this legislation was passed to put a cap on fees.

00:02:10.540 That was stripped from the legislation primarily by lobbyists, including the former chief of staff of Nancy Pelosi, who fought that restriction.

00:02:21.140 But more recently, Merrick Garland, the attorney general, could do something about this.

00:02:26.800 There's a Department of Justice guidance that says that in these particular cases, lawyers should not be taking fees more than 25 percent.

00:02:35.300 They are clearly doing so now.

00:02:37.960 But Merrick Garland has done nothing about it.

00:02:40.400 And the reason is, when you look at some of the law firms that are taking in the largest fees and making the largest amounts of money on this,

00:02:47.980 these were the actual lawyers who were pushing for him to be appointed attorney general and also pushed for him to be put on the Supreme Court back in 2016.

00:02:57.420 So it is absolutely backscratching, taking place between these trial attorneys and Merrick Garland.

00:03:04.060 And the victims, of course, are the men and women who serve their country and our family who are stationed at Camp Lejeune,

00:03:10.880 who are trying to get assemblies of justice.

00:03:13.400 And it's basically being taken away by these trial attorneys and their law firms.

00:03:17.640 Is there anything that you think will likely be done about this?

00:03:21.460 Because it's outrageous.

00:03:22.440 As you say, they're victimized twice.

00:03:25.100 It is. Well, certainly Congress can revisit this and pass legislation capping fees at 25 percent.

00:03:34.100 The second thing we're calling on is for the congressional committees, including House Oversight and the Senate Committee of Investigations.

00:03:42.360 I understand Republicans are in the minority.

00:03:44.280 But it's a call for subpoenas to DOJ to find out how this situation happened, who jerry-rigged it at DOJ and who did Merrick Garland meet with and when did he meet with them?

00:03:56.400 In terms of these law firms or others, they're involved in this legal heist that's taking place for these people that were victimized at Camp Lejeune.

00:04:05.960 Well, it's been a busy time for Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice.

00:04:10.940 They've declared that he is in point of fact above the law and cannot be held in contempt by the United States Congress.

00:04:18.260 They have also held that none of the prosecutors, whether federal or local, whether it's Alvin Bragg or Fannie Willis, and the special counsels have been working together, conspiring to go after and prosecute and persecute Donald Trump.

00:04:39.260 So they've wiped the slate clean here over the last two weeks.

00:04:44.800 Where in the world do you go in the Justice Department to find somebody who makes sense?

00:04:51.640 Yeah, it's very, very hard to find, Lou.

00:04:54.200 And look, here's the bottom line.

00:04:56.480 This is all about the power of the purse string.

00:04:59.400 I don't say this very often, but what would Democrats do?

00:05:02.840 If these roles were somehow reversed, what Democrats would do on Capitol Hill is say, guess what?

00:05:09.420 We are not going to fund the Department of Justice until you comply with the subpoenas that we submitted to you.

00:05:17.400 That's really the next step.

00:05:18.880 It's really, I think, up to Jim Jordan, the people on the Judiciary Committee.

00:05:23.280 That's, of course, where funding for the Department of Justice is approved to step up.

00:05:29.460 Because what you have is really a test of the branches of government.

00:05:34.660 None of the three branches are supreme.

00:05:36.660 The judicial branch is not supreme to the executor or the legislative.

00:05:41.220 They are all co-equals.

00:05:43.500 And if Congress is trying to exercise legitimate oversight, which they are, they have a right to ask these things from the Department of Justice.

00:05:51.680 The only reason the Department of Justice is not sharing this information, whether these are the Joe Biden tapes of his interview with the special prosecutor or whether it's correspondence related to their discussions potentially with Alvin Bragg or with Fannie Willis.

00:06:08.240 The only reason they're not turning it over is not because it's going to violate anybody's rights.

00:06:14.040 It's because it's potentially deeply embarrassing.

00:06:17.160 So they are engaging in a political exercise, and they shouldn't be doing that.

00:06:22.600 And Congress has to call them out for it.

00:06:24.840 I am one, Lou, that lots of times has called for congressional investigations.

00:06:29.960 We need those.

00:06:31.400 But when push comes to shove, sometimes you need to use the power of the person, go further and say, guess what?

00:06:37.600 We are not going to fund this department until you share this information that we have legitimately requested from you.

00:06:45.240 What do you suppose Speaker Johnson has refused to do so?

00:06:50.800 He's he's been a disappointment in many ways, but he had every opportunity to use the power of the purse to constrict that those budgets are to eliminate them in point of fact.

00:07:02.640 Yeah, I mean, look, I think that, you know, he is trying to walk this tightrope.

00:07:08.940 Obviously, he saw what happened to McCarthy and he's trying to balance a lot of things.

00:07:15.100 But, yeah, at the bottom line, when you have power, you have to use that power when it's necessary to accomplish legitimate goals and purposes.

00:07:23.880 And this is one of them.

00:07:25.120 It's it's ultimately not, Lou, about these tapes, although their importance with Joe Biden talking to her.

00:07:31.980 And it's not ultimately about Alvin Reck.

00:07:34.400 It's about the balance of power.

00:07:36.540 And the executive branch should not feel like it can just thumb its nose at Congress.

00:07:42.460 And again, if the roles were reversed, if this was a Democrat Congress doing this during the Trump administration or during the George W.

00:07:51.240 Bush administration, I would dare say they would push it until they got the results that they wanted.

00:07:57.200 So it's up to Johnson.

00:07:58.160 It's also up to these committee chairs to do the right thing and use the power of the purse.

00:08:05.420 That's the next phase, because otherwise this is only going to embolden them to continue to defy Congress on other legitimate requests that they've made.

00:08:15.000 So I think you've got to shoot a cannon across their bow and you need to correct this, because these are absolutely legitimate requests.

00:08:25.200 Absolutely.

00:08:26.200 We're talking with Peter Schweizer.

00:08:27.900 We're coming right back.

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00:10:05.000 We're back with Peter Swiser.

00:10:09.600 To me, it's interesting right now that the White House is playing games with the distinction between a pardon and commutation when it comes to Hunter Biden and his father.

00:10:22.620 Your thoughts?

00:10:23.320 Yeah, certainly they're playing word games, Lou.

00:10:27.600 But I would also add, I mean, everybody seems to be accepting Joe Biden's word when he issued this statement that he's not going to pardon Hunter Biden.

00:10:35.980 He has lied.

00:10:37.300 And I don't use that word loosely.

00:10:38.860 He has lied repeatedly when it comes to his son, Hunter Biden.

00:10:43.140 And let's remember, I mean, he told the American people Hunter had not received the dime from China when, in fact, he had received millions from China.

00:10:51.860 He said that he had had no contact with Hunter Biden's business associates.

00:10:56.220 That ended up being a lie.

00:10:58.040 He actually met with them.

00:10:59.340 He was on the phone with them, et cetera.

00:11:01.300 He said that he personally had not profited from any of these deals.

00:11:05.340 We now know, of course, from the House Oversight Committee that he received hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:11:10.940 So I don't take it face value that he's not going to pardon Hunter Biden.

00:11:14.860 I think after the November election, whether he wins or loses, I would not be surprised if he decides in the name of, you know, fatherly or paternal love that he's going to pardon Hunter Biden.

00:11:28.420 I think that's absolutely something that we should expect him to do.

00:11:32.040 And again, you know, the Democrats have said repeatedly, you know, Trump does not accept the, you know, the edicts of the judicial system on these sort of trumped up charges that have been brought against him.

00:11:47.440 What the Biden campaign has done is sort of passively, aggressively say that they accept what the court has done.

00:11:55.880 But clearly there are murmurings that they don't accept it, that, you know, reports from Politico that Joe Biden thinks Hunter Biden is a victim here.

00:12:06.380 So they don't accept these verdicts.

00:12:09.000 I think they're doing things for PR spin on the public surface level.

00:12:13.120 But I would fully expect him after the election, win or lose, that he is going to pardon Hunter Biden.

00:12:19.320 And the problem is the criticism of the press probably will be muted.

00:12:23.640 They haven't called him out on the other things that he has lied about regarding Hunter Biden, his personal profiting, et cetera.

00:12:30.860 So I would expect him to believe that he's going to get away with it with minor criticism from the mainstream media.

00:12:37.960 Yeah, minor, if any.

00:12:41.420 The absurdity of all of this is frankly overwhelming because Joe Biden has gamed everything he's ever touched.

00:12:51.020 There's nothing about him that isn't circuitous, that isn't deceitful, you name it.

00:12:58.100 He comes out and he says, well, you know, the reason my son got convicted is it's a weaponized justice system.

00:13:04.060 I mean, scratch your head over that one.

00:13:06.480 I mean, it's they have no shame and they play every game that they can imagine and they conjure pretty well.

00:13:13.220 They do. And look, they don't get called out on it anymore.

00:13:17.640 I actually saw an old video clip online from I think it was ABC News calling out Joe Biden, then Senator Joe Biden during the 88 presidential campaign, calling him out for his repeated lies.

00:13:31.260 And it was a brutal, hard hitting investigative report by ABC News.

00:13:36.100 Well, where is that kind of reporting now?

00:13:38.460 I don't see it anywhere.

00:13:39.520 I mean, the lies haven't stopped. In a sense, the lies are worse.

00:13:43.820 The lies that we associate with Joe Biden in his past relate to, you know, padding his resume, claims about law school and, you know, his great academic successes, which weren't actually there.

00:13:55.520 What he's now lying about is these massive conflicts of interest, these massive efforts of influence peddling and the flow of tens of millions of dollars to his family.

00:14:06.000 And yet the media doesn't call them out on it. It's it's really, really remarkable.

00:14:10.820 When I look at the shaky state of the American republic, certainly you look at what's going on in government.

00:14:17.340 But the biggest concern is we don't have a mainstream media that will do anything other than report on scandals, faked and imagined on one side and ignore real scandals on the other side.

00:14:32.520 And if you don't if that's the media that you have, that is the bulk of the mainstream media that most people listen to, you do not have an independent watchdog on our government officials anymore.

00:14:44.500 And when you don't have that, they are going to push push the envelope of what they can get away with.

00:14:49.620 And that is certainly what Joe Biden is doing.

00:14:52.640 Joe Biden, the entire I mean, they're no longer simply a crime family.

00:14:56.620 These are such lowlifes. They're a slime family as well. 0.94

00:15:00.880 It is the perversion. All of it documented. 0.95

00:15:05.100 Not all of it, but at least what we know has been documented.

00:15:09.820 It's it is really ugly to watch this and to see the acceptance, as you point out, in the in the national corporate media.

00:15:18.660 And the only thing that one can imagine is their corporate masters of those news organizations are laying out the agenda.

00:15:27.180 And it's not an agenda that is in any way pro-America, pro-Americans, pro-American family.

00:15:35.600 It's it's just disgraceful what we're witnessing is and and the watchdogs who seem to be, with your notable exception, absolutely, absolutely silent.

00:15:50.580 Yeah, you're right, Lou. I mean, here's the good news, although it's not news that that any any of us think is ultimately healthy is.

00:15:58.220 The good news is these mainstream media outlets are paying a massive price for the bidding that they are doing.

00:16:06.300 Their ratings are way down. Their credibility is way down.

00:16:09.700 I saw a survey done by a legitimate pollster that faith in the mainstream media is actually lower than Congress.

00:16:17.100 I mean, you know, Congress is like an 18, 19 percent and that's left, right and center.

00:16:23.140 So by doing this, by kind of carrying water for certain political figures or for the political establishment, these news outlets are totally trashing their brands.

00:16:35.140 I guess they don't seem to mind it because they keep doing it, but they are bearing a price for it.

00:16:40.240 And I do think the rise of independent media, again, left, right and center.

00:16:45.320 I mean, there are some left wing news websites out there that I don't agree with everything they do, but they also actually do some good reporting that you're not going to see in the mainstream media.

00:16:55.300 So that's where the future of media is.

00:16:57.520 If we can get past the issue of a big tech censoring of these independent news outlets, which, of course, is a big challenge.

00:17:04.780 There is a future and there are alternative sources of information out there as these mainstream media outlets continue to see a decline in their ratings and in their reputations.

00:17:16.620 It's truly a crisis, cord cutting, streaming, all of these pressures.

00:17:22.960 And then the political, socio-political influences right now, as you say, depressing their ratings and their circulation as well.

00:17:33.080 Well, we're talking with Peter Schweizer and we are coming right back.

00:17:37.680 Stay with us and we'll find out what what is next in this great country, because we haven't checked in.

00:17:45.300 At least we don't know that we've checked in with the Chinese yet. 1.00

00:17:49.400 And we do know where the president gets many of his ideas.

00:17:53.540 We'll be right back.

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00:18:19.640 We're back talking with Peter Schweizer.

00:18:31.060 And, Peter, it seems to me that the corporate America right now is in a dramatic shift.

00:18:39.120 We're the president of the United States meeting with some of the top CEOs in banking, in business, and they are coming to him.

00:18:47.460 He's not going to them.

00:18:49.160 And I think that's an important symbol.

00:18:51.860 I don't know if it's a contrived symbol on their part, a strategic decision, so that they won't be accused of impressing him too much.

00:19:01.780 But we're really seeing a change on the part of a lot of corporate America here, aren't we, in regard to the upcoming likely Trump presidency?

00:19:12.700 Yeah, I think that corporate America is trying to hedge their bets.

00:19:18.000 And as always, there are very few profiles in courage among these corporate executives.

00:19:24.280 I mean, they're worried about the relationship with China, not in the way that you and I and the majority of the American people are.

00:19:30.680 They're worried about it disrupting these intricate relationships that they have established that are part of their corporate profit network.

00:19:40.220 You know, look at what Larry Fink, you know, head of BlackRock, said in 2011, where he candidly announced in an interview what many other CEOs would not quite so publicly say when he literally said he actually prefers to do business with, in his words, totalitarian regimes because they're more predictable.

00:20:01.660 That goes for most of corporate America, whether it's certainly Wall Street, the financial sector or big tech.

00:20:08.700 They want to maintain a stable relationship with China and they don't really worry about the cost of that stability, whether it's rising China, whether it's a threat to our civil liberties, whether it's a threat to our national security. 0.84

00:20:22.160 They ultimately place less emphasis on that and they're more focused on maintaining stable relationships because it's good for their quarterly profits.

00:20:32.080 But the American people have shifted on China.

00:20:35.120 The latest polling shows that that, you know, the vast majority of them see China not as a friendly rival, but actually as an enemy, as in a threat to the United States.

00:20:45.680 So corporate America is going to have to pick and choose where they are going forward.

00:20:51.620 I understand they've got to straddle certain relationships.

00:20:54.620 They may have to reorient supply lines, supply chains.

00:20:58.540 But the American people are shifting on many of these issues, many of these important issues.

00:21:04.300 And if corporate America doesn't get on board, they're going to get left behind.

00:21:08.000 And I think that the American people's patience, you know, for elites in the financial sector who are sort of jettisoning the interests of the American people for their own personal benefit, patience is waning.

00:21:23.580 And I think Americans are really waking up on this issue.

00:21:27.160 And corporate America is trying to figure out how to straddle these new realities.

00:21:32.780 And there are some building conflicts, whether it be China's direct threats to Taiwan, of course, and their insistence on dominion over the South China Sea.

00:21:45.020 But we also, and I don't know if you imagined this when you wrote Blood Money, but suddenly the head of the select committee on the CCP, Mike Gallagher, Congressman Gallagher,

00:21:57.380 the first major move was for him to retire from Congress.

00:22:03.500 It's astounding to see what's happening.

00:22:06.760 Next, the big strategic partner, of course, with China.

00:22:11.760 Russia now has four warships in the Caribbean at one point, 30 miles off the U.S. coast.

00:22:18.220 I think that a lot of people in corporate America are going to have a lot of trouble getting realigned, given the rising aggression of their expansionary aims.

00:22:34.440 Yeah, no, I think you're exactly right, Lou.

00:22:37.320 You nailed it.

00:22:38.120 And all you need to do is look at the divide, the way that Wall Street talks about Russia, as opposed to the way they talk about China.

00:22:45.860 Russia, of course, is a threat, but it's a waning, declining power.

00:22:50.840 They have big demographic problems.

00:22:52.940 Their economy is not doing well.

00:22:54.900 They are a waning threat.

00:22:56.460 But, of course, corporate America is all on board with the Russian threat.

00:23:01.420 And the reason is, is that a lot of them don't have deep commercial ties in Russia.

00:23:05.340 Other than the energy sector, most sectors of corporate America don't have deep commercial interests in Russia.

00:23:12.660 They have massive interests in China.

00:23:15.680 For some of these big investment funds, a third or more of their profits are actually coming from mainland China.

00:23:22.920 That's where their biggest growth is coming from.

00:23:25.380 So it's a lot harder for them to talk about the Chinese threat because they are so conflicted.

00:23:32.440 You know, who becomes president in November and is inaugurated in January is going to make a huge difference on this issue.

00:23:40.800 We saw what President Trump's posture was towards China, especially when the administration was really sort of set in place, which was really challenging China, calling out China on on many of the threats that they posed.

00:23:55.660 You know, Trump was the first president to call out China on their involvement with the fentanyl trade.

00:24:01.320 And of course, President Xi made promises to Trump, which he never kept.

00:24:05.780 But Joe Biden has been silent on fentanyl.

00:24:09.100 He does not call China out on it.

00:24:11.000 So a lot is at stake in this 2024 election, not just as it relates to the lives of individual Americans, as it relates to taxes and civil liberties, but our very national security.

00:24:24.520 How we deal with China, there is a stark contrast between Biden's soft posture, essentially giving China what they want and what Donald Trump says he's going to do in his second term.

00:24:38.480 We we appreciate you being with us here today, Peter.

00:24:41.920 And as always, a great conversation.

00:24:44.220 Thanks for thanks for joining us and all the very best, my friend.

00:24:48.700 Always great to be with you, Lou.

00:24:49.920 Thanks for having me.

00:24:51.200 Thanks to Peter Schweizer.

00:24:52.240 Thank you for being with us today and be sure to join us tomorrow for The Great America Show.

00:24:58.200 Thanks, everybody.

00:24:59.100 God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - June 22, 2024

The Great America Saturday Show： June 22nd, 2024

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