The Great America Show - June 08, 2024


The Great America Saturday Show： June 8th, 2024


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Harry Horry has been investigating election fraud for years. He says our election machine error rates violate federal law, and says Bill Barr is partly responsible for fulfilling the Marxist Democrats' aspirations. This episode is sponsored by The Wellness Company.

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00:00:33.700 Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:36.560 Great to have you with us.
00:00:38.040 Our guest today, a man who's been investigating election fraud for many years.
00:00:42.140 He says our election machine error rates violate federal law and says Bill Barr is partly responsible for fulfilling the Marxist Dems' aspirations.
00:00:55.160 And now with us, I am pleased to say Harry Horry, and we're going to talk elections.
00:01:00.860 We're going to talk about why we're having this conversation so near the upcoming presidential election and so far away from 2020.
00:01:10.280 Harry, let's start with that.
00:01:12.780 We're now talking about electoral integrity in this country.
00:01:16.980 I haven't seen a lot done to assure that in this upcoming election.
00:01:24.040 Yeah, there's several reasons for that.
00:01:26.380 I mean, obviously, I was part of the effort to try to explore and understand what happened in 2020.
00:01:32.860 Specifically, I was mostly working with Phil Klein and the Amistad Project, but as an advisor on cybersecurity matters and election conduct and operations, both of which I have a fair amount of experience in.
00:01:50.020 So during that period of time, we discovered that there were, you know, many things not being done correctly.
00:01:57.540 And the difficulty, though, is that many in the excitement and the frustration that people were feeling, we saw most of the election investigations and efforts concentrated on who won the election.
00:02:13.660 And, in fact, the predicate for challenging outcome is very difficult.
00:02:19.980 The bar is very high.
00:02:23.020 And you almost have to have proof ahead of time before they'll give you standing.
00:02:28.260 So I'm not excusing what the courts did, but within the context of what they believe standing means and what precedence means, I understand what they did.
00:02:38.920 And the issue really should have gone back to Bush v. Gore in 2000 when the challenge was about misconduct.
00:02:48.560 Most people realize, of course, that Bush ends up winning the election, but it didn't start that way.
00:02:55.260 It was a challenge of misconduct, a challenge of incorrect signature verification and incorrect counting of hanging chads and dimpled ballots with regard to the principal right, which is to have elections measure the intent of the electorate.
00:03:12.680 And so what happens, though, is when the Supreme Court realizes or defines in their preliminary injunctions that the result of a different method of counting results in a different winner, they're in the box because now they have materiality proven.
00:03:29.880 And because of this, they issue an equity decision that reverses the Florida certification or forces the Florida certification to George Bush in that particular contest.
00:03:45.440 So and he becomes our president.
00:03:47.360 But this doesn't excuse the situation that we have a totally broken election mess and the fact that, you know, for whatever reasons, our DOJ and state officials seem to be loathe to investigate and explore what really happened in detail, which is, you know, essentially I've dedicated my life for the last four years.
00:04:11.680 Having founded United Sovereign Americans with Marley Hornick to try to deal with the fact that we can prove rampant and massive misconduct.
00:04:25.020 I've been testifying about a lot of things.
00:04:28.080 I testified for Jeffrey Clark's disbarmentary trial.
00:04:33.780 And I also was involved in the arrest of Eugene Yu in East Lansing, Michigan.
00:04:39.940 And I was one of the first parties involved in trying to figure out how to determine what happened in Bethpage, New York.
00:04:48.160 I'm sorry, Harry, where?
00:04:50.560 Yeah.
00:04:51.540 In Bethpage, New York in 2020 with Jesse, the truck driver.
00:04:55.980 So let's talk about that.
00:05:00.940 And Eugene Yu is a mystery still.
00:05:06.780 How were you tested?
00:05:08.000 Let me ask you this.
00:05:10.100 How were you testifying?
00:05:12.960 On what side were you?
00:05:14.760 And what was the outcome of the court action that you were part of?
00:05:19.320 So the history on Connick is that True the Vote's investigators found a disturbing connection between the Connick software and a company that is a sponsored entity in China, in Zhengzhou province.
00:05:41.600 And the fact of the matter is that they brought me in, True the Vote brought me in as a cyber forensics expert to look at the data they found and determine whether or not it raised a reasonable suspicion that there was a connection to the CCP in Connick.
00:05:58.740 And anyway, we were called several, you know, a couple of us were called to testify at the grand jury in L.A. County.
00:06:07.420 I was one of them, and I basically testified that there was reason to be concerned that the data that True the Vote had found was of reasonable concern.
00:06:21.740 And Eric Neff, the assistant prosecutor in L.A. County, testifies as well in front of the grand jury.
00:06:33.200 This results in a warrant for you for cyber forensic seizure and the arrest of Eugene Yu.
00:06:43.260 And we supported that cyber forensic capture.
00:06:48.060 My company is Kane and Associates.
00:06:52.200 My business partner is Nate Kane.
00:06:54.500 We were hired by L.A. County to do forensic capture, according to DEA and FBI standards, which we did.
00:07:05.680 Then we reported what we found, which was a clear indicator of a suspicious and probable national espionage hit.
00:07:14.760 We reported it because all of our investigators carry high-level security clearances with the DOD and other agencies.
00:07:24.660 And this report was made to DCSA, which investigated it, reported it as a matter of urgent concern to the Department of Justice and FBI.
00:07:35.280 And then the Department of Justice and FBI do nothing with the report.
00:07:38.840 We're going to we're talking with Harry Howery and we're talking about what in the world is what in the world is the state of this country's election system?
00:07:54.200 As we are now just about five months away from deciding who will be the next president of the United States.
00:08:01.780 And do we have a system that has security and integrity for for millions of Americans to vote this time?
00:08:12.680 We'll continue with Harry in just a moment.
00:08:14.780 We'll be right back.
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00:09:51.220 We're back now with Harry Horry and we were talking about Conic.
00:09:58.520 And this company with alleged ties to the CCP in China, where is the case now?
00:10:10.260 You was arrested.
00:10:11.380 There was a great splash of publicity and focus on the company, which had apparently put together a lot of data, gathered a lot of data on election workers as well in their system.
00:10:29.720 Tell us, were the case now, is the case still ongoing?
00:10:34.220 Is there still a concern?
00:10:36.400 How has it, if it has been, resolved?
00:10:39.100 So the case has basically been dropped in L.A. County.
00:10:45.640 As hard as it is to believe, the DOJ never investigated the matter, at least to the best of any of our understanding.
00:10:55.940 There was a national security alert about this case.
00:11:00.300 And they actually settled with Conic in L.A. County.
00:11:07.160 Again, you know, in this case, a partisan group suing another partisan group.
00:11:11.520 So, you know, this is kind of judgment washing, if you will.
00:11:16.400 It's not money laundering, per se.
00:11:18.260 But this is what happens.
00:11:20.280 But the way I get involved directly, I mean, the true heroes that suffered badly are the truth-of-the-vote people.
00:11:27.020 Right.
00:11:27.420 You know, they get sued in Harris County, Texas, for, you know, participating in the truth and defamation.
00:11:34.280 And I actually, you can find it on the web, entered an affidavit about what we found that was supposed to be filed under seal.
00:11:43.140 But the judge and, you know, Republican appointee, actually, federal judge in Harris County, refuses to seal the things that are being submitted by truth-of-the-vote because they think it's going to be embarrassing to them.
00:11:57.260 In fact, I believe that this was a mistake.
00:12:00.080 They didn't know that my affidavit lay out there like a landmine.
00:12:03.700 But if you want to do a web search, you can find it.
00:12:06.320 This is what we found.
00:12:08.380 And where do you go to get that material?
00:12:12.140 You'll just have to do a Harry Howery, true-of-the-vote, conic search.
00:12:17.240 I don't know.
00:12:18.500 It was posted on true-of-the-vote's website.
00:12:21.100 I don't know if it's still in their ink product.
00:12:24.980 We'll pull it together and put it up under very easy access and tell everybody about it.
00:12:31.600 So, the plain fact of the matter in the end is they dropped the lawsuit and unbelievably settled for $5 million of alleged misconduct by conic.
00:12:44.600 The fact of the facts are the facts, though.
00:12:49.480 You know, what we found were extensive connections between conic and, you know, actors in China that are clearly CCP-aligned.
00:13:01.460 And you'd have to understand China deeply to understand what that means.
00:13:05.840 But, you know, for any sponsor—
00:13:08.460 I'm having enough trouble right now, Harry, understanding America.
00:13:11.820 I'm going to leave the Chinese to the Chinese. 1.00
00:13:14.600 I want to get something clear, though.
00:13:17.640 The $5 million, that went to conic?
00:13:21.700 Yes.
00:13:21.860 Or conic?
00:13:22.600 Yeah.
00:13:23.140 Amazingly so.
00:13:24.400 And who paid up?
00:13:25.860 True the vote?
00:13:26.960 L.A. County.
00:13:28.240 L.A. County.
00:13:29.720 But true the vote didn't have to—
00:13:32.460 No, no.
00:13:33.260 True the vote didn't have to pay them.
00:13:34.760 Good.
00:13:35.420 All right.
00:13:35.840 Super.
00:13:36.720 Well, let's get to this.
00:13:38.700 So, right now, here we are, five months out from the election.
00:13:43.360 I've got all sorts of questions, as I've had for years, going back to the early 2000s,
00:13:51.160 about electronic voting and why no one seems to have access to the innards of the machine,
00:13:58.600 the systems that run through them, and the vulnerability to manipulation and to rigging an election.
00:14:11.160 And it's really a very—to me, it's the essence of the issue.
00:14:16.120 Why in the world is it so complicated?
00:14:18.220 Why in the world is it so—why are there so many shadows around electronic voting,
00:14:25.580 which should be transparent, wide open to the American people?
00:14:29.100 And every election invites, it seems to me, a full-on investigation of what transpires
00:14:38.140 when you have, quote, unquote, anomalies, irregularities, and some people would say fixes.
00:14:45.400 Right.
00:14:47.540 So, there are numerous problems.
00:14:50.620 If you look at it simply, we have voter rolls that are corrupted and full of garbage,
00:14:58.060 some illegal registrations, I mean, in the true sense of intent, but others are illegal
00:15:05.560 in the sense of the responsibility of the officials at the state level to keep them accurate and
00:15:11.820 clean, and they're not doing that.
00:15:13.320 The second piece is that we have no integrity in the system with regard to the transport of
00:15:19.640 the ballots and the knowledge that those ballots are legitimate and properly registered from
00:15:25.260 the hands of the voter, whether those are mail-in ballots or in-person ballots, all the way
00:15:31.140 to the tabulation system.
00:15:33.200 The tabulation systems are so complicated.
00:15:35.680 Anybody except a cyber or a computer expert can't understand the problems.
00:15:41.660 And then on the left-hand side, you have all these laws, procedures, and process that are being
00:15:46.280 ignored.
00:15:47.500 And on the right-hand side, if you want to think about it that way, the transparency that is
00:15:52.060 legally required in auditability under HAVA for the Help America Vote Act is also being ignored.
00:15:59.000 We have made some mistakes on the conservative side.
00:16:02.980 We should not have named any Tom, Dick, and Harry to do our audits.
00:16:06.460 We should have hired experts under NDA, under bonding to maintain confidentiality so that they
00:16:16.200 had the legitimacy that we should have had.
00:16:19.260 But that's like blaming the victim.
00:16:23.620 The victim here is the American people, and it's not conservatives, actually.
00:16:28.560 We're going to a place where votes don't matter anymore, simply don't matter.
00:16:34.420 We do have the ability still with some opportunities to speak out loud, but even there, they're trying
00:16:42.680 to abridge our rights to freedom of speech.
00:16:44.960 So the fact is, machines are complicated, and people don't understand network interface
00:16:53.360 cards or Wi-Fi communication programs or security programs.
00:16:57.400 They just simply don't understand.
00:16:59.340 And so when people like me start talking about it deeply, their eyes roll back in their head,
00:17:04.460 including the judges.
00:17:06.160 But the fact of the matter is that these systems are not secured according to federal standards.
00:17:10.780 CISA is the rogue agency acting on its own.
00:17:15.840 Let's talk about CISA, cybersecurity and infrastructure agency.
00:17:22.480 We'll be taking that up with Harry just in a moment.
00:17:28.040 And we're not going to let your eyes roll back in your head.
00:17:30.800 We're going to make sure that we're plain spoken and clear as we can be about the state of this
00:17:36.620 electoral system right now, folks, because that's what counts.
00:17:41.360 We'll be right back.
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00:18:10.780 We're back.
00:18:18.880 We're talking with Harry Horry.
00:18:20.700 And Harry, let's go to, you talked about it, the rogue agency, CISA.
00:18:26.320 It was put together to be in the Homeland Security Department to be a security agency for the American vote, period.
00:18:39.920 And suddenly it's also making determinations about truth, about whether or not the election is honest or not.
00:18:48.080 And they can do that.
00:18:48.860 They say within six days, as Chris Krebs did back in 2020, he went out and said it was the most secure election in history, 2020,
00:18:58.560 without having any investigation of any kind.
00:19:02.980 I mean, folks, think about this.
00:19:04.360 You can't.
00:19:04.860 We're talking about this great nation, tens of millions of voters on both sides of the issue,
00:19:12.840 and suddenly we've got an agency that can figure that out.
00:19:15.800 When's the last time the government ever figured anything out that quickly?
00:19:20.300 Harry, let's go to that issue.
00:19:21.740 Tell us about your views on cybersecurity and infrastructure and why in the world we put up with the nonsense that they did an investigation in 2020
00:19:34.760 when they palpably did not, and they persisted in the lie.
00:19:39.140 They got caught in the lie.
00:19:40.400 A year and a half later, they had to make good on their misstatements.
00:19:46.340 So, interestingly, they're publishing warnings right now about all the threats to cybersecurity.
00:19:54.400 You've got banks under threat.
00:19:56.780 You've got government agencies under threat.
00:20:00.360 The Chinese have been accused of hacking many records out of the federal government,
00:20:06.960 but somehow our election systems were magically immune to these attacks in 2020.
00:20:13.340 And they weren't investigated because people that were either so deranged about whether or not we should have a fair election,
00:20:23.860 if that fair election elected Donald Trump, to people that were acting in a way that was irresponsible and reckless.
00:20:32.340 So, the fact of the matter is, when Krebs declares it the most secure election ever,
00:20:37.340 I would argue that there haven't been, you know, secure elections that are completely transparent and visible
00:20:43.780 since we left people voting as a group in front of the ballot box under the auspices and observation of their neighbors at local precincts,
00:20:55.160 probably in the late 1700s or early 1800s.
00:20:59.580 But even then, we had trouble.
00:21:01.000 There was a huge difficulty with ballot box stuffing and whatnot in the 1800s, you know,
00:21:07.460 resulting in a series of major revisions of election precedents and law in 1888.
00:21:14.040 Most people don't realize this, but there is a law in the United States of America
00:21:19.780 that's called the Federal Information Security Modernization Act.
00:21:23.740 It replaces an earlier version of what's called FISMA.
00:21:27.220 So, there's two FISMAs out there, but the current FISMA mandates the way that the federal government secures things.
00:21:33.620 And here we have the most important, the only right that's guaranteed in the Constitution is the right of electing our own representatives in suffrage, right?
00:21:44.020 This is the only right general to guarantee it.
00:21:47.420 It's the only one talked about as a right of the people.
00:21:50.420 And the rest are embedded in the, you know, the amendments to the Constitution, which wouldn't be agreed to initially.
00:21:59.960 But the one that everybody agreed to is that we had a right to elect our representatives and we had a right that all eligible voters,
00:22:08.560 which was a narrowly defined thing in those days, but has been expanded, you know, broadly, is a right of all citizens.
00:22:16.860 So, what we have is we have a government agency, a bureaucrat in Krebs, declaring that there's nothing here that's here.
00:22:26.720 And our election system is set up as an adversarial system.
00:22:31.140 It always was.
00:22:32.220 But in 2020, they deny the effective adversarial relationship through the COVID monstrosity about keeping people 20 or more feet away from observing the vote to other things that were direct malicious actions, you know, counteracting the law.
00:22:53.680 And we watch many of those acts on television.
00:23:01.700 Right, and they were election misconduct, but we didn't challenge them correctly in that regard.
00:23:07.600 You know, United Sovereign Americans, that's what we're doing is we're challenging misconduct.
00:23:14.080 You know, we can prosecute a person for having five illegal ballots on their front seat that they've harvested illegally.
00:23:20.620 But we, we, this isn't the same as going after the issue of whether or not, you know, Donald Trump won the election or Joe Biden.
00:23:30.420 It's about, it's about holding people to the law.
00:23:33.740 Again, there's only really five components.
00:23:36.680 I understand.
00:23:38.640 We're running out of time here.
00:23:40.340 And I want to, I want to boil this down here in the last few minutes here.
00:23:43.640 One, right now, there are a number of actions, court actions underway.
00:23:52.340 The most, one of the very, if not the most important to me is the curling case in Georgia.
00:23:58.500 Judge Amy Totenberg, your judgment about how important it is and what you expect will be her finding on what was a bench trial over electronic voting machines
00:24:10.120 and their, their ability to not be manipulated and to assure a true vote on November 5th of this year.
00:24:20.220 So this is the issue.
00:24:23.360 Cybersecurity is complicated and requires specific utilization process and procedure.
00:24:30.400 The vote, the voting machines have not been used properly since they were introduced, mainly because of the complexity.
00:24:38.460 But the certification process is broken.
00:24:42.320 The operational security process is broken.
00:24:45.040 And the transparency and auditing process is broken.
00:24:49.000 We actually have private companies getting states to sign contracts that forbid transparency, which is insane and illegal, in my opinion.
00:25:02.700 But I'm not a lawyer, but I do have some cyber background.
00:25:08.460 And so your, your judgment on curling, are you following it closely?
00:25:13.460 Yes.
00:25:14.380 Curling, Amy Totenberg's initial dicta is quite strong about this issue.
00:25:23.320 You know, obviously we don't, we don't have a final decision yet.
00:25:27.940 But I think the basic issue is that these officials have to obey the law.
00:25:33.100 And that includes what the requirements are under our codes of federal regulations and our laws about what it means to have a secure election.
00:25:42.400 And they're ignoring it.
00:25:44.320 And now they don't know how to back out of it, in all frankness.
00:25:47.400 But a lot of people don't want to back out of it.
00:25:50.240 And that tells you something by itself.
00:25:51.860 Yeah, especially the state of Georgia.
00:25:55.320 And, you know, obviously the voting machine companies.
00:25:59.400 But do you think she will have the judicial courage, I'll put it that way, to say this has to stop?
00:26:07.180 Because if she doesn't, it doesn't seem to me that we'll see a resolution to this issue soon.
00:26:15.800 And the opportunity here for urgency to deal with the issues that you've just described and others have.
00:26:23.120 You know, this is the moment.
00:26:25.140 What do you think?
00:26:26.060 We either fix this now or we risk losing our democracy.
00:26:31.580 That's right.
00:26:31.900 This is not an overstatement.
00:26:34.220 We've seen a mess over the last, you know, four years with regard to governance.
00:26:39.460 And it's because people, the government, including the bureaucrats, believe they're above the legal restrictions that the courts might place on them.
00:26:48.180 So as we wrap up here, Harry, what is your sense?
00:26:52.680 How will she, in your judgment, rule and what will be the effect of that rule to clean up the 2024 election while it still can be cleaned up? 0.91
00:27:04.120 So no matter what she moves, it'll be going to the Supreme Court in my estimation.
00:27:09.800 Secondly, I hope that she's brave enough to do what needs to be done.
00:27:14.560 But there's more to it than just the machines or the voter rolls, the law, the machines,
00:27:21.480 and the fact that we can't have transparency and provability.
00:27:26.340 Yeah, there's a lot more to it.
00:27:27.680 There's Bill Barr, a former CIA officer for seven years who also happens to be the guy who was in charge of the Justice Department
00:27:39.180 when the Bureau of Prisons permitted Jeffrey Epstein to be murdered.
00:27:44.340 Or if you want to wink and nod to commit suicide, he's also the guy who said it was a secure election.
00:27:51.540 He also shut down election fraud.
00:27:53.820 This is a monstrously complicated moment in history.
00:27:58.500 It's got good guys, bad guys, and some guys that we're still trying to just figure out what they were all about in 2020 and what they're doing now.
00:28:07.540 Now, Harry, come back and let's talk more about this because obviously we've got a full wagon here to unload.
00:28:17.300 I'll be happy to help you unwind any of it you'd like to focus on.
00:28:21.080 Thank you for having me.
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00:28:33.300 God bless you, and may God bless America.