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00:00:33.700 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:37.220 Always great to have you with us.

00:00:38.840 President Trump has filed an unsealed motion to dismiss special counsel Jack Smith's classified documents case.

00:00:48.280 The president's motion was originally filed under seal in February.

00:00:52.620 Judge Cannon authorized President Trump this week to file an unsealed version of that motion to dismiss.

00:01:01.440 In this unsealed motion, President Trump highlights how others such as James Comey,

00:01:08.120 Joe Biden, Mike Pence, Bill and Hillary Clinton, all illegally possess classified documents,

00:01:16.120 but they were never, they were never prosecuted.

00:01:19.940 Trump's attorneys argued that Joe Biden stored boxes of classified documents in his garage, for crying out loud.

00:01:28.120 At Penn Biden Center and in Chinatown as well.

00:01:31.680 Three, three different locations.

00:01:34.240 And all remained accessible to people without any security clearances.

00:01:39.840 Biden was never charged for stealing secret documents

00:01:43.420 and storing them in boxes in his garage accessible to his compromised son.

00:01:49.460 Judge Cannon previously denied Trump's motion to dismiss the classified documents case

00:01:54.900 on unconstitutional vagueness of the Espionage Act.

00:01:59.980 However, this third effort is now pending.

00:02:04.100 And over in New York, it seems Marxist New York DA Alvin Bragg's case is starting to collapse.

00:02:10.300 Stormy Daniels' attorney, Keith Davidson, took the stand and denied, absolutely denied,

00:02:17.460 the $130,000 payment from Michael Cohen to his client was a hush payment.

00:02:23.140 The payments made to Stormy Daniels did not come from Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.

00:02:30.540 The payments were made through internal business records.

00:02:33.100 There was no tax deduction taken, and there was no obligation to file it with the SEC or the FEC.

00:02:41.460 So the case, who brought the case in the first place, and why?

00:02:45.740 We know why.

00:02:47.020 Our guest today is Russ Tice, former senior intelligence analyst for the National Security Agency

00:02:53.000 and former whistleblower and great American.

00:02:56.400 Russ, always great to see you.

00:02:57.880 I want to begin today with these reports from James O'Keefe in particular and the insider, if you will,

00:03:08.540 a contractor he found who is saying quite, it seems to me at least, credibly,

00:03:14.500 that the intelligence agencies, specifically the CIA, withheld intelligence from President Trump

00:03:22.820 and apparently at the behest of then CIA Director Mike Pompeo, later to be Secretary of State.

00:03:31.680 Your reaction to this, and first, let's begin with, do you think it's plausible?

00:03:36.180 I think it is plausible, although the guy might be going a little bit over his position that he had

00:03:44.060 as far as what he did know.

00:03:45.240 But being that he was supposedly in cybersecurity, he may have had access to the director,

00:03:52.560 deputy directors in some of the top brass, their communications,

00:03:55.780 to determine whether there were situations where they could be hacked.

00:04:01.640 Yeah, I want to start, as we go up the, if you will, the chain,

00:04:06.020 to go from the intelligence that's being gathered, then collected around a specific briefing for the

00:04:17.260 President of the United States, and then withholding it.

00:04:20.900 There would have to be a lot of people within the CIA who were aware that they were withholding

00:04:27.800 information from the President of the United States.

00:04:31.020 Would there not be?

00:04:31.680 Not necessarily.

00:04:34.200 The President's briefing that he gets every morning is a conglomeration of a lot of intelligence.

00:04:41.920 I remember one time I was so happy that a program that I was working on was going to be briefed

00:04:46.940 to President Clinton at the time.

00:04:49.900 And I had like, I don't know, 20 pages of write-up, and they said,

00:04:53.060 well, you've got to break that down to three, and then they said,

00:04:54.980 you've got to break it down to one.

00:04:56.160 And I was younger at the time, so I'm pretty excited because I'm the lead guy.

00:05:02.240 And then they showed me what President Clinton got, and it was like three sentences.

00:05:07.000 So I was like, I was sad and disappointed.

00:05:11.180 But you've got to understand, the President is getting intelligence from everywhere.

00:05:16.520 He's dealing with, of course, the economy and everything else.

00:05:19.280 Sure, he's got a lot on his plate.

00:05:21.440 I understand that.

00:05:22.800 But to actually withhold intelligence from the President,

00:05:27.420 it just seemed to me that there are so many people involved in that.

00:05:31.700 Where would that decision about what to withhold, where would that originate?

00:05:38.580 Well, that would be the upper ranks.

00:05:40.460 You go through a vetting process.

00:05:42.620 The analysts, say, go through the material.

00:05:45.360 You come up with a question that was asked.

00:05:48.640 You come up with what your best answer is to that question.

00:05:51.480 And then you send that up the line.

00:05:53.120 At some point, your boss looks at it and says,

00:05:55.480 okay, you might want to change this and that.

00:05:57.240 A lot of that is wording.

00:05:59.580 At some point, someone who's an editor and a little bit better with the English language

00:06:05.200 puts the commas and some of the other pieces in place where they belong.

00:06:09.580 But then that goes up to an assistant to the deputy director.

00:06:15.600 And that person looks it over.

00:06:17.440 And then the deputy director looks at it and could very easily say,

00:06:20.360 we're nixing this whole part of this report or this action plan for, say,

00:06:25.320 we're doing some operations somewhere in the world.

00:06:27.620 Or we're going to nix the entire thing whatsoever.

00:06:31.680 And we don't want this to go into the President's briefing.

00:06:35.940 But, of course, it's going to happen at the upper echelon.

00:06:39.000 The upper echelons.

00:06:41.360 And what I'm getting at here is, at what point does the obfuscation

00:06:46.520 or simply the removal of intelligence from the President's either view or hearing,

00:06:54.800 where does that actually originate in terms of saying,

00:07:00.300 okay, we're not going to tell the President about what is going on in Russia

00:07:03.840 or the Middle East or wherever it might be,

00:07:06.680 because it just seems to me it almost has to be the director who approves something like that.

00:07:14.600 Your thoughts on it?

00:07:16.760 I can imagine the director, especially if now they are politically oriented,

00:07:21.800 to tell his senior staff that we're not going to deal with a certain issue or a mission that's happening.

00:07:31.600 Or this fellow who's this whistleblower said that they believed,

00:07:36.260 they used some insinuity words for the President,

00:07:40.120 that he was not of an educated manner to be able to handle the information that they were dealing,

00:07:49.280 and that he would just spew it off to our enemies.

00:07:51.220 First of all, I don't believe that of Mr. Trump, our President, our former President.

00:07:56.560 And second, these people, this is the President of the United States.

00:08:01.220 You work for this man.

00:08:03.780 So this is elitism, and it's probably a political posturing for somebody else,

00:08:12.820 because you don't like the man that's sitting in the White House.

00:08:15.420 This seems like elitism of a rarefied sort, and outright arrogance,

00:08:22.720 and because if anyone ever finds out precisely what happened here,

00:08:27.500 extraordinarily tragic hubris on their part, because they will be held accountable for this.

00:08:33.840 But Pompeo right now is the central figure of this,

00:08:38.700 and he's accused, straightforwardly, of aiding and abetting,

00:08:43.620 if not, in fact, originating, the withholding of intelligence from the Commander-in-Chief

00:08:48.980 and the President of the United States.

00:08:51.900 Your thoughts on that?

00:08:54.500 Well, it would be Haskell as well.

00:08:56.220 It would be Nakasone at NSA.

00:08:58.900 So I don't know about whether the DIA director was also holding back,

00:09:03.680 but more than likely, because all of them would periodically talk with one another,

00:09:09.120 that this had to be like a small cabal at the very top of the intelligence community,

00:09:14.920 where they said, we're cutting this guy out, our president,

00:09:18.200 and we'll just wait him out until the next president shows up,

00:09:23.480 and maybe we won't tell that one either.

00:09:25.800 I think whatever they tell our current president, he wouldn't remember beyond lunchtime.

00:09:30.280 Yeah, this is in the intelligence service, this man would be considered a cutout,

00:09:38.840 and he's been cut out of just everything.

00:09:41.960 I mean, to even talk about Biden as the President of the United States,

00:09:46.100 first of all, he's an accident of history,

00:09:51.220 and history perverted by the Marxist Dems and Bill Barr

00:09:55.240 and a host of other people who conspired to stifle conservative voices.

00:10:05.140 Or otherwise, those 51 intelligence veterans who signed up and said,

00:10:10.400 you know what, that Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.

00:10:14.380 They lied through the teeth to the American people. 0.68

00:10:17.020 They changed the course of history.

00:10:18.660 And that's why it's so easy for me, at least,

00:10:22.340 to believe that Mike Pompeo and his henchmen,

00:10:25.940 while he was the head of the CIA,

00:10:28.060 did precisely what they're accused of doing,

00:10:30.720 which is withholding that intelligence.

00:10:33.240 We're talking with Russ Tice.

00:10:35.060 He is a former senior intelligence agent analyst

00:10:38.760 for the National Security Agency.

00:10:41.260 He is also a whistleblower.

00:10:43.600 And as I said at the outset, a great American.

00:10:46.460 We're coming right back with Russ.

00:10:47.900 Russ, stay with us.

00:10:48.920 We're going to figure out what's going on

00:10:51.200 throughout the intelligence community

00:10:53.900 as we continue our conversation with Russ.

00:10:56.460 Stay with us.

00:10:57.020 We'll be right back.

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00:12:34.440 We're back.

00:12:35.460 We're talking with Russ Tice now,

00:12:37.220 and I want to say this has developed.

00:12:40.300 Representative Matt Gaetz calling for an investigation

00:12:43.020 into the bombshell O'Keefe reporting

00:12:46.680 on these, well, statements that

00:12:50.240 intelligence agencies, not agency,

00:12:54.060 coordinated to hide information

00:12:55.520 from the Trump White House.

00:12:58.100 This is remarkable stuff.

00:13:01.160 Matt Gaetz is calling for a complete investigation

00:13:04.120 and a thorough one.

00:13:05.620 I can't even imagine how you could even begin

00:13:09.020 to think we could get a thorough investigation

00:13:11.000 of the CIA or these other agencies.

00:13:14.580 It just defies imagination.

00:13:16.840 Your thoughts?

00:13:19.000 Ultimately, you're going to have to sack

00:13:20.420 the senior leadership of all of these agencies,

00:13:24.100 and you're going to have to put people in there

00:13:25.500 that you can trust to, first of all,

00:13:27.720 dig up what has happened and what's going on,

00:13:30.340 and then hold the people that have done this responsible

00:13:32.620 and make sure the president knows exactly what's going on,

00:13:35.620 how it happened, and how to proceed into the future

00:13:38.120 with people he can trust.

00:13:40.240 Well, and that really isn't a solution

00:13:42.860 because then it's next man up,

00:13:44.980 and the next man up is every bit as corrupt

00:13:47.080 because he is an appointee

00:13:49.920 and a beneficiary of the previous leadership.

00:13:53.620 So on and on the cycle goes.

00:13:57.980 There's got to be a way to get to this point.

00:14:01.420 I look back over the course of intelligence

00:14:04.000 in this country, Russ,

00:14:05.360 and I know you have certainly throughout your career

00:14:08.260 and your life.

00:14:10.500 There's no good beginning point to say

00:14:13.300 what happened to the integrity

00:14:15.520 of our intelligence agencies

00:14:17.020 because if you reach all the way back to the 19,

00:14:20.160 well, you can start with Truman

00:14:21.800 and the creation of the CIA,

00:14:24.380 go through the 1950s

00:14:26.800 where the CIA is responsible for,

00:14:30.100 and I happen to believe the reporting exactly.

00:14:34.560 I mean, the influence of the CIA

00:14:36.520 on the Gary Powers U-2 incident

00:14:38.720 is clearly recorded within the CIA itself

00:14:42.840 as well as the State Department

00:14:44.360 and what the pressure they brought to bear

00:14:46.740 on a recalcitrant president

00:14:48.480 who didn't want to fly spy planes

00:14:51.660 over the Soviet Union.

00:14:53.720 He did, and he did after thorough convincing

00:14:58.620 and lies from the intelligence community

00:15:01.320 about what Gary Powers at 70,000 feet

00:15:04.440 would be looking at

00:15:05.460 in the way of his own danger to his own life

00:15:10.260 and the aircraft he was flying.

00:15:12.660 So, I mean, from there you go on to Vietnam,

00:15:15.440 which was started under President Eisenhower,

00:15:19.100 he is the one who sent the first advisors.

00:15:22.860 John F. Kennedy sent more advisors

00:15:25.140 and lied to the American people throughout

00:15:27.120 about what he was doing.

00:15:28.640 And then we had the Pentagon Papers

00:15:31.040 about all of the lies

00:15:32.960 of the intelligence agencies,

00:15:34.820 all of the military-industrial complex,

00:15:37.880 and, of course, the president's

00:15:39.780 from Johnson forward to Nixon.

00:15:45.320 It's an outrage.

00:15:46.560 So, I mean, almost nothing

00:15:48.560 is beyond credulity

00:15:52.060 in assessing what the intelligence agencies have done,

00:15:57.140 particularly as we've seen what they did

00:15:58.880 with President Donald Trump

00:16:00.760 and are still doing.

00:16:01.840 Well, a lot of the problem is

00:16:05.020 that when you put someone

00:16:06.780 in charge of the intelligence agency

00:16:08.640 that's an ambassador

00:16:09.660 from somewhere or another

00:16:11.460 and has a background in,

00:16:13.100 I don't know,

00:16:14.700 either politics or domestic politics

00:16:17.100 or something generic like that

00:16:21.600 from the State Department,

00:16:24.480 and then the person,

00:16:26.580 another person is from,

00:16:28.300 say, the chairman

00:16:29.060 from either the hipsy or the sissy, 0.99

00:16:30.940 the intel committees on the House,

00:16:33.780 where were their former lawyers?

00:16:35.280 And, you know, when they were,

00:16:36.080 I always think of it this way.

00:16:37.760 What was this person doing

00:16:38.920 when they were 27 years old?

00:16:41.040 Were they, you know,

00:16:42.660 defending someone

00:16:44.440 because, you know,

00:16:45.720 they crashed a car and hurt someone?

00:16:47.820 Or were they spinning tapes

00:16:49.760 at some remote place,

00:16:51.020 you know, doing the spy work

00:16:53.020 that has to be done?

00:16:54.320 In other words.

00:16:55.480 Am I understanding you correctly, Russ,

00:16:57.020 that you're saying

00:16:57.560 that you just can't trust

00:16:58.660 the outsiders in the intel community?

00:17:00.940 Because it's what you sound like.

00:17:02.860 You sound like you're describing

00:17:03.800 John Ratcliffe

00:17:04.800 as the national director

00:17:07.540 of intelligence.

00:17:08.160 It sounds like you're talking

00:17:09.340 about Mike Pompeo,

00:17:11.500 who was brought in

00:17:13.060 because he was, you know,

00:17:14.900 a very eager politician

00:17:16.560 with very, very high ambitions

00:17:19.940 for himself.

00:17:21.560 But we go through the annals

00:17:23.340 of the intelligence community

00:17:24.680 and the professionals

00:17:27.200 that whether it's Richard Helms,

00:17:29.940 whether it's, you know,

00:17:31.700 John Allen Dulles,

00:17:35.540 you go through all of these people.

00:17:38.540 And, you know,

00:17:39.680 it's it seems to me

00:17:41.520 that you have plenty of people

00:17:43.240 to choose from,

00:17:44.100 that there is something rotten

00:17:45.720 in the system itself.

00:17:47.720 And I don't understand

00:17:49.040 why people

00:17:49.640 we've just watched

00:17:51.060 the Congress

00:17:51.620 of the United States

00:17:52.440 give the FBI

00:17:53.920 two hundred million dollars

00:17:55.660 for a new building.

00:17:56.800 It'll be the biggest building

00:17:57.900 in D.C.

00:17:59.140 in the federal,

00:18:00.660 bigger than the Pentagon.

00:18:02.560 And that's their reward

00:18:04.000 for spying on a president,

00:18:05.680 spying on both

00:18:06.440 intelligence committees.

00:18:08.560 That's their reward

00:18:09.980 for going after

00:18:11.500 the parents of children

00:18:14.140 who yelled

00:18:15.680 in a school board meeting.

00:18:17.640 This is the reward

00:18:19.900 for Christopher Wray

00:18:22.740 for saying

00:18:23.540 the greatest threat

00:18:25.000 to the country

00:18:25.760 are those doggone

00:18:27.420 right wing conservatives,

00:18:29.540 those mega folks.

00:18:31.080 I mean,

00:18:31.560 this is preposterous.

00:18:32.840 We're looking at

00:18:33.700 a lurid,

00:18:36.360 perverse

00:18:36.940 intelligence community

00:18:38.780 that is corrupt.

00:18:41.260 It looks to me

00:18:42.100 to the bone.

00:18:43.080 I can't.

00:18:43.520 Can you name

00:18:43.940 the last success

00:18:44.840 of our intelligence agencies?

00:18:47.000 Let's start with Ukraine.

00:18:48.460 Was that a success

00:18:49.160 for our intelligence agencies?

00:18:51.600 Well, let's look back.

00:18:53.060 We,

00:18:53.960 the CIA

00:18:54.660 fostered

00:18:55.840 a rebellion

00:18:56.820 and they threw out

00:18:57.900 the

00:18:59.700 democratically

00:19:01.660 elected president

00:19:02.940 of Ukraine.

00:19:04.700 So,

00:19:05.640 and that has caused

00:19:07.180 the nightmare

00:19:07.680 that we see now

00:19:08.520 over there.

00:19:09.760 In other words,

00:19:10.360 we did this.

00:19:11.640 So,

00:19:12.460 of course,

00:19:13.520 that's a failure.

00:19:14.860 Afghanistan,

00:19:15.380 but how long

00:19:17.000 went with 20 years

00:19:17.800 we were there

00:19:18.320 and what's this?

00:19:19.400 I've always said,

00:19:20.220 no matter whether

00:19:20.820 we leave,

00:19:21.780 15 years ago,

00:19:22.940 I said,

00:19:23.300 if we leave today,

00:19:24.140 tomorrow,

00:19:24.560 next week,

00:19:25.080 next month,

00:19:25.540 next year,

00:19:26.000 five years,

00:19:26.440 10 years,

00:19:26.820 20 years,

00:19:27.320 200 years,

00:19:28.100 200 years,

00:19:28.520 it will go right back

00:19:29.800 to the way it was

00:19:30.540 the warlords

00:19:31.140 in the mountains

00:19:31.720 and the extremists

00:19:34.440 in the valleys.

00:19:35.060 And then we have

00:19:37.800 these intel people

00:19:39.500 and these generals

00:19:40.320 that are lying

00:19:40.860 through their teeth

00:19:41.480 saying,

00:19:42.160 oh,

00:19:42.380 yes,

00:19:42.720 we're training

00:19:43.320 the Afghan army

00:19:45.000 and they're going

00:19:45.520 to be fit

00:19:46.440 to handle

00:19:47.000 and defend.

00:19:48.000 And of course,

00:19:48.880 it's blowing smoke

00:19:51.040 up people's nether regions

00:19:53.100 and the problem

00:19:54.680 is like,

00:19:55.780 yes,

00:19:56.200 yes,

00:19:56.460 I am referring

00:19:57.140 to the folks

00:19:57.780 that you mentioned,

00:19:59.420 that these are neophytes

00:20:00.820 that have no knowledge

00:20:02.380 and if you give me

00:20:03.720 a neophyte

00:20:04.500 and I need to pull

00:20:05.500 the wool over their eyes,

00:20:06.660 it's real easy

00:20:07.540 for me to walk up

00:20:08.420 and take the lollipop

00:20:09.680 from the baby

00:20:10.380 and entertain them

00:20:13.680 some other way

00:20:14.340 to keep them from crying

00:20:15.300 with a jester

00:20:16.420 jumping up and down.

00:20:18.220 We're talking

00:20:18.620 with Russ Tice

00:20:19.480 and we're going

00:20:20.680 to kind of hone in

00:20:21.880 on what chance

00:20:23.420 does America have

00:20:24.580 if its intelligence agencies

00:20:26.160 are working for

00:20:28.260 well,

00:20:29.620 unknown,

00:20:30.640 unidentifiable

00:20:31.560 patrons

00:20:32.840 and causes

00:20:34.520 and instead

00:20:37.100 of the United States

00:20:38.480 of America.

00:20:39.340 We'll be right back.

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00:21:14.620 We're back

00:21:15.300 with Russ Tice

00:21:16.080 and Russ,

00:21:16.580 I just have

00:21:17.460 to turn here

00:21:18.100 to I am

00:21:19.780 so dismayed

00:21:20.800 at the level

00:21:21.840 of conscience

00:21:23.880 and the sense

00:21:26.320 of duty

00:21:26.880 on the part

00:21:27.440 of the United States

00:21:28.180 Congress

00:21:28.600 right now.

00:21:29.280 I'm talking about

00:21:30.000 both political parties

00:21:31.040 frankly.

00:21:31.940 A Speaker of the House

00:21:32.960 who does not want

00:21:33.740 to hold accountable

00:21:34.540 the intelligence agencies

00:21:36.320 doesn't want

00:21:36.940 to hold accountable

00:21:37.780 those who have

00:21:39.160 violated our laws

00:21:40.640 have spied on presidents,

00:21:42.700 his own intelligence committees.

00:21:45.000 I mean,

00:21:45.720 we are adrift right now

00:21:48.100 in a morass

00:21:49.240 of corruption,

00:21:50.240 political corruption,

00:21:51.120 and certainly

00:21:52.220 economic,

00:21:53.760 financial corruption

00:21:54.680 as well.

00:21:55.760 Because the more wars

00:21:57.200 we get,

00:21:58.080 the more money

00:21:59.240 the military-industrial

00:22:00.980 complex makes.

00:22:02.480 And the safer

00:22:03.500 the jobs are

00:22:04.440 of those

00:22:04.960 and intel

00:22:05.840 because they get

00:22:07.420 to be spying

00:22:08.500 and bringing forth

00:22:09.820 offerings

00:22:10.900 to the President

00:22:11.900 of the United States

00:22:12.620 each day

00:22:13.600 in the way

00:22:14.820 of something

00:22:15.160 called intelligence

00:22:16.100 that didn't recognize

00:22:17.520 apparently

00:22:18.160 200,000 Russian troops

00:22:20.340 around the border

00:22:21.500 of Ukraine

00:22:22.200 and the clear intent

00:22:24.400 of Vladimir Putin

00:22:25.600 to invade.

00:22:27.780 Didn't recognize

00:22:29.520 anything that was

00:22:30.220 going on

00:22:30.700 in Africa.

00:22:32.060 Didn't understand

00:22:33.440 what was going on

00:22:35.260 in the conflict

00:22:37.040 of tribes

00:22:38.360 within various,

00:22:39.460 particularly

00:22:40.020 northern Africa.

00:22:41.600 I mean,

00:22:42.720 you go through this

00:22:43.420 and you look at

00:22:43.920 what China is doing

00:22:45.560 and it's a surprise

00:22:46.920 to American policymakers

00:22:48.500 because it's a surprise

00:22:50.060 to our intel agencies.

00:22:52.320 And there's not

00:22:53.400 even a word

00:22:54.500 uttered

00:22:55.880 as far as I know

00:22:56.860 by these

00:22:57.940 intelligence agencies

00:22:59.060 about the absolute

00:23:00.380 assault

00:23:01.520 on the U.S. dollar.

00:23:03.240 There's not a word

00:23:04.600 mentioned

00:23:05.120 about economic stability

00:23:06.660 and its importance

00:23:07.560 to national security

00:23:08.720 and what in the world

00:23:10.020 are you fools doing

00:23:11.240 in all of those committees,

00:23:13.060 whether it's armed services,

00:23:14.340 whether it's appropriations,

00:23:15.680 whatever it may be,

00:23:17.340 because you are

00:23:18.280 spending us

00:23:19.060 right into

00:23:19.740 a fiscal disaster

00:23:22.940 of immense proportions.

00:23:24.680 I mean,

00:23:25.140 that's where we are.

00:23:26.760 There's no judgment

00:23:28.020 in the end

00:23:28.640 that I can see

00:23:29.660 in the intel community

00:23:31.740 whatsoever.

00:23:32.480 I can't pick out

00:23:33.300 the agency.

00:23:34.720 I guess if I had to pick

00:23:35.640 one agency

00:23:36.320 that's probably doing

00:23:37.140 pretty well,

00:23:37.720 it's the big old

00:23:38.840 spy agency,

00:23:39.860 your former agency,

00:23:40.700 NSA.

00:23:42.960 Well,

00:23:43.040 one thing about NSA

00:23:43.820 is their job

00:23:44.620 is to look at

00:23:45.120 signals intelligence.

00:23:46.220 So you get to hear

00:23:47.480 what your potential

00:23:48.780 enemy is saying.

00:23:49.700 Now,

00:23:49.940 if that link

00:23:51.560 is compromised,

00:23:52.160 they may be saying

00:23:53.120 something over the air

00:23:54.580 to throw you off,

00:23:56.120 which is part

00:23:56.860 of that puzzle

00:23:57.360 I told you

00:23:57.920 where they throw

00:23:58.460 in those puzzle pieces

00:23:59.920 to throw you off

00:24:00.560 the trail.

00:24:01.800 But it's

00:24:02.880 not everyone

00:24:04.600 in the intel.

00:24:05.920 During the

00:24:06.880 the situation

00:24:08.580 with...

00:24:09.140 I want to be

00:24:10.140 clear about this,

00:24:11.000 Russ.

00:24:11.220 I'm not talking

00:24:11.920 about the individuals.

00:24:13.140 I'm really not.

00:24:14.600 Because many,

00:24:15.620 as you are about

00:24:16.540 to say,

00:24:17.080 are great Americans.

00:24:19.040 But what I am

00:24:19.820 talking about

00:24:20.380 are the corruption

00:24:21.380 of those institutions.

00:24:23.360 And certainly

00:24:23.940 their leadership.

00:24:24.880 Because they are

00:24:25.800 accountable for,

00:24:27.940 should be accountable

00:24:29.560 for their

00:24:30.780 transgressions

00:24:31.740 against,

00:24:32.220 you know,

00:24:33.520 the constitution

00:24:34.700 which they're

00:24:35.400 supposed to be

00:24:36.020 serving,

00:24:36.480 and the nation

00:24:37.520 they're supposed

00:24:38.040 to be serving.

00:24:39.680 Well,

00:24:40.160 for instance,

00:24:40.580 Ben Laden,

00:24:41.120 when we had him

00:24:42.000 pinned down

00:24:43.380 at the mountain

00:24:45.020 Tora Bora,

00:24:46.180 everyone in

00:24:47.220 the intel community

00:24:48.500 was screaming

00:24:49.280 at the president

00:24:49.960 to call in

00:24:50.700 the 101st

00:24:51.680 or the 82nd Airborne

00:24:52.520 to shore up

00:24:53.100 the backside

00:24:53.580 of that mountain

00:24:54.080 because we knew

00:24:54.520 it was porous.

00:24:55.500 And we can go in

00:24:56.500 and kill every 0.92

00:24:57.360 living thing

00:24:58.060 in that mountain

00:24:58.700 and we could have

00:24:59.480 been in and out.

00:25:00.920 And for a period

00:25:01.980 of time,

00:25:02.380 I'm like,

00:25:02.780 why?

00:25:03.520 We begged the president,

00:25:04.960 begged him,

00:25:05.580 please do this,

00:25:06.660 we'll be done.

00:25:07.780 And then I realized

00:25:09.020 this is because

00:25:10.260 they want a protracted

00:25:12.300 war so they can 0.97

00:25:13.880 spend billions

00:25:14.620 of dollars

00:25:15.220 and make a whole

00:25:16.440 lot of defense folks

00:25:17.440 and everybody else

00:25:18.420 getting paid off

00:25:18.940 a lot of money.

00:25:20.020 It's also because

00:25:20.740 the president you're

00:25:21.500 talking of wanted

00:25:22.260 the fundamental

00:25:22.940 transformation of

00:25:23.980 America.

00:25:25.060 He had a number

00:25:26.060 of agendas

00:25:26.560 working at the same

00:25:27.580 time, right?

00:25:29.580 Apparently so.

00:25:30.440 At my level,

00:25:32.860 you know,

00:25:32.980 I don't get to

00:25:33.480 see that.

00:25:34.660 But then,

00:25:35.940 all right,

00:25:36.120 so when we go

00:25:36.720 into Iran,

00:25:37.980 I mean,

00:25:38.300 not Iran,

00:25:39.040 Iraq,

00:25:40.000 then supposedly

00:25:41.240 we have everything

00:25:41.880 calmed down

00:25:42.440 basically because

00:25:43.780 we bought off

00:25:44.960 Muqtada al-Sadr

00:25:45.960 by paying him

00:25:47.100 cash every month.

00:25:48.260 So we're paying

00:25:48.820 him off for

00:25:49.860 this supposed

00:25:51.220 piece and

00:25:51.940 everything we're

00:25:53.360 doing is working.

00:25:54.880 And once those

00:25:55.680 payments stop,

00:25:56.540 it all goes

00:25:57.240 right back down

00:25:58.260 the drain again.

00:25:59.000 But the great

00:25:59.880 thing is that

00:26:00.880 everybody burned

00:26:02.480 all of the

00:26:02.980 poppy fields so

00:26:03.840 the warlords

00:26:04.820 were completely

00:26:05.540 without cash.

00:26:07.080 You know,

00:26:07.240 it's one of the

00:26:07.720 great questions

00:26:08.380 and there's only

00:26:09.520 one answer.

00:26:10.860 It was utter

00:26:11.560 corruption that

00:26:12.980 the United States

00:26:13.940 military and

00:26:14.780 and intel services

00:26:15.900 did not destroy

00:26:16.780 every poppy field

00:26:18.980 in Afghanistan

00:26:20.780 and deprive them

00:26:23.240 of that capital

00:26:24.300 and actually

00:26:25.740 carry out a war.

00:26:26.720 Now, I have to

00:26:27.760 give the CIA

00:26:28.540 and the U.S.

00:26:30.440 military great

00:26:31.220 credit because

00:26:32.340 within one year

00:26:33.280 of entering,

00:26:33.980 which was they

00:26:34.760 entered in

00:26:35.420 October of

00:26:37.280 20,

00:26:39.380 let me go back

00:26:41.260 to 2001,

00:26:42.700 they entered

00:26:43.180 in that

00:26:44.540 October period,

00:26:47.360 they within

00:26:48.240 eight months

00:26:50.080 had effective

00:26:51.040 control of

00:26:51.740 Afghanistan.

00:26:52.580 They, the CIA,

00:26:53.560 their paramilitary

00:26:54.900 military and U.S.

00:26:56.580 special forces.

00:26:57.820 I mean, people,

00:26:58.680 it's a matter

00:26:59.240 of history.

00:27:00.380 It's what we did

00:27:01.180 after that that

00:27:02.360 is monstrously

00:27:03.240 stupid. 0.90

00:27:04.980 That was only

00:27:05.420 with the support

00:27:06.140 of the warlords

00:27:07.000 that we were able

00:27:07.940 to do that.

00:27:08.860 And where did

00:27:09.200 the warlords

00:27:09.760 get met?

00:27:11.080 Much of their

00:27:11.520 proceeds were

00:27:13.960 from the

00:27:14.520 production of

00:27:15.240 poppies.

00:27:16.240 So not only

00:27:17.620 did we not

00:27:18.020 burn the poppy 0.75

00:27:18.780 fields,

00:27:19.080 we had U.S. 0.93

00:27:19.780 soldiers protecting

00:27:21.040 the poppy fields

00:27:22.640 because we're

00:27:23.840 trying to win

00:27:24.400 the hearts

00:27:24.820 and minds

00:27:25.460 of the locals

00:27:26.140 and the locals

00:27:26.820 are the farmers

00:27:27.480 growing the

00:27:28.400 poppies and

00:27:29.700 that was their

00:27:30.820 main source

00:27:31.340 of income.

00:27:32.060 The State

00:27:32.640 Department sends

00:27:33.300 a message over

00:27:34.080 while we're

00:27:34.720 over there

00:27:35.120 that says,

00:27:35.920 hey, tell the

00:27:36.560 farmers to

00:27:37.260 grow asparagus

00:27:38.240 because apparently

00:27:39.600 that helped

00:27:40.520 a little,

00:27:41.280 yeah.

00:27:42.180 In Central

00:27:44.060 or South

00:27:45.080 America,

00:27:45.840 they did this

00:27:46.820 to try to get

00:27:47.400 farmers not to

00:27:48.080 grow cocaine

00:27:48.900 or coca plants

00:27:50.420 and asparagus

00:27:51.620 is a high-yield

00:27:52.960 vegetable that

00:27:53.680 people like to

00:27:54.100 buy.

00:27:54.620 But if you've

00:27:55.120 ever looked at

00:27:55.660 the land,

00:27:56.660 the turf

00:27:57.580 in Afghanistan,

00:27:59.760 it is the

00:28:00.340 soil,

00:28:00.880 the only thing

00:28:01.660 you could grow

00:28:02.240 is poppies.

00:28:02.780 You couldn't

00:28:03.080 grow anything.

00:28:04.140 I'm happy to

00:28:05.020 say I've only

00:28:05.600 seen pictures

00:28:06.220 of the terrain.

00:28:07.620 Russ, we

00:28:08.320 thank you so

00:28:08.980 much for being

00:28:09.500 with us.

00:28:10.540 This story is

00:28:11.420 going to be

00:28:11.920 around for

00:28:12.480 quite some

00:28:13.020 time and I

00:28:14.400 think it

00:28:14.740 really is,

00:28:16.020 I hope it

00:28:16.760 could,

00:28:17.200 it certainly

00:28:17.760 could be.

00:28:18.900 Pivotal

00:28:19.500 in bringing

00:28:21.380 some understanding

00:28:22.240 to the American

00:28:22.900 people about

00:28:23.640 exactly what

00:28:25.460 their intelligence

00:28:26.060 agencies are

00:28:26.960 about,

00:28:27.320 how politicized

00:28:28.160 they are,

00:28:29.100 and how

00:28:29.680 weaponized our

00:28:30.740 federal government

00:28:31.440 is against the

00:28:32.240 American people.

00:28:33.640 Russ Tice,

00:28:34.740 Great American.

00:28:35.760 Thanks for being

00:28:36.280 with us.

00:28:36.700 God bless you.

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